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what are these strange points and levels? help! | 2010-07-17 22:37:00 Author: flamingemu Posts: 1872 |
Its not showing up right on my screen. The text is misaligned with the bars. | 2010-07-17 22:38:00 Author: Enlong3 Posts: 357 |
I know!! You see 'em too?!... Rep system? | 2010-07-17 22:38:00 Author: Outlaw-Jack Posts: 5757 |
Its not showing up right on my screen. The text is misaligned with the bars. but why are the bars there anyway? what IS going on? | 2010-07-17 22:39:00 Author: flamingemu Posts: 1872 |
yes, exp is BACK!!! | 2010-07-17 22:39:00 Author: theswweet Posts: 2468 |
No, this is exp. CC is currently installing vb exp. Obviously, it isn't right now because he is updating it in real time, so yeah. Bear with him while he finalizes exp. D: | 2010-07-17 22:39:00 Author: RockSauron Posts: 10882 |
Yaya, experience is back. Did you do the new version of it? Make sure you use the overwrite previous version option <-------- why aint that parsing?! | 2010-07-17 22:39:00 Author: Enlong3 Posts: 357 |
I know!! You see 'em too?!... Rep system? how did you get to level 27? | 2010-07-17 22:39:00 Author: flamingemu Posts: 1872 |
Experience is back, its sad I don't have much left since the winter create contest were I gave it all away, I went from 5th most experience to nothing, Ow well. | 2010-07-17 22:40:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662 |
How do I have %0 everything? I've been pretty active here if I may say so myself...Everybody else has a bunch of points and stuff! EDIT: I found out it must have to do with CC updating it right this moment, because not even achievements like having friends and creating an album and stuff are working for me. It's odd though, that it's only happening to individual users... | 2010-07-17 22:41:00 Author: TheZimInvader Posts: 3149 |
Yep, it's still being installed. I mean, you can't really think lbp is the most active user? How do I have %0 everything? I've been pretty active here if I may say so myself...Everybody else has a bunch of points and stuff! It's currently showing all your stats before exp left. | 2010-07-17 22:43:00 Author: Doopz Posts: 5592 |
activity 0% lol | 2010-07-17 22:43:00 Author: flamingemu Posts: 1872 |
I'm doing quite a few things in the background to get things running accurately, but until then bear with me. This product is a biggie, so it requires lots of configuration! Sorry for the broken postbit - I'll work on getting that fixed soon. | 2010-07-17 22:43:00 Author: ConfusedCartman Posts: 3729 |
I sure hope this gets fixed or improved, I liked my green bars | 2010-07-17 22:44:00 Author: napero7 Posts: 1653 |
its still updating... ****, i am rich!!! | 2010-07-17 22:44:00 Author: theswweet Posts: 2468 |
Thanks for all your hard work, CC! | 2010-07-17 22:44:00 Author: TheZimInvader Posts: 3149 |
I wish I never gave all my points away. @Cartman, no rush its not too confuddling. | 2010-07-17 22:46:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662 |
this makes this (https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=30624-my-join-date) even more important now also, we should contact jww fellow caption-contest posters/winners | 2010-07-17 22:46:00 Author: flamingemu Posts: 1872 |
this makes this (https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=30624-my-join-date) even more important now You should be thankful for what ye got. I have 34 points, that's annoying. | 2010-07-17 22:48:00 Author: Doopz Posts: 5592 |
oh noes, it disappeared. Just like the HTML . What's next, BB code? | 2010-07-17 22:50:00 Author: Enlong3 Posts: 357 |
"...and it disappeared as quickly as it had come." EDIT: Oookay, now it's back again. | 2010-07-17 22:50:00 Author: TheZimInvader Posts: 3149 |
I see green bars | 2010-07-17 22:50:00 Author: napero7 Posts: 1653 |
oh nooes! they are gone! edit: nope they're back | 2010-07-17 22:50:00 Author: flamingemu Posts: 1872 |
/ yup, but then again... its not done YET, more is coming bro! | 2010-07-17 22:50:00 Author: theswweet Posts: 2468 |
Seeing some of these icons brings back good ol' memories. | 2010-07-17 22:50:00 Author: Leather-Monkey Posts: 2266 |
Let's just all go about our business before we freak out about every little change. | 2010-07-17 22:51:00 Author: TheZimInvader Posts: 3149 |
:O an activity bar! edit: gone | 2010-07-17 22:51:00 Author: flamingemu Posts: 1872 |
lol, the activity is going insane!!! | 2010-07-17 22:52:00 Author: theswweet Posts: 2468 |
and... bye bye bars i might just log off, wait for it to cool down... | 2010-07-17 22:53:00 Author: theswweet Posts: 2468 |
and... bye bye bars i might just log off, wait for it to cool down... :goes to play lego harry potter: | 2010-07-17 22:53:00 Author: flamingemu Posts: 1872 |
What happen? ConfusedCartman set up us the bomb. I know it's confusing now and will be fixed but this makes me go insane... not really though | 2010-07-17 22:53:00 Author: napero7 Posts: 1653 |
Mommy, Im scared... | 2010-07-17 22:54:00 Author: Enlong3 Posts: 357 |
*goes to play Spore, while reloading for checking every now and then* | 2010-07-17 22:55:00 Author: theswweet Posts: 2468 |
My EXP just rocketed, 9th on the user leaderboard | 2010-07-17 22:57:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662 |
Mommy, Im scared... LOL *thanks* | 2010-07-17 22:57:00 Author: theswweet Posts: 2468 |
Lol! Man alive, folks! Go and have your dinner or eat your breakfast or have a shower or something and give CC some time to get it all sorted. If people keep a running commentary on every little change we'll have 20 pages of "nothing" for everyone else to have to wade through. So calm down, friends Go and do something fun for a while, like theswweet, and then check back in now and then. Pleez. | 2010-07-17 22:58:00 Author: BabyDoll1970 Posts: 1567 |
I got a notification that said "1 achievement" which really disappointed me because I got excited that I would have gotten a message on my page... Lol! Man alive, folks! Go and have your dinner or eat your breakfast or have a shower or something and give CC some time to get it all sorted. If people keep a running commentary on every little change we'll have 20 pages of "nothing" for everyone else to have to wade through. So calm down, friends Go and do something fun for a while, like theswweet, and then check back in now and then. Pleez. That sound boring... overdramatizing everything and informing everyone that those mysterious bars don't work and then disappeared sounds like much more fun. Also, could I have made that "all you base" pun without this? Not that it was funny in any way... | 2010-07-17 22:59:00 Author: napero7 Posts: 1653 |
Lol! Man alive, folks! Go and have your dinner or eat your breakfast or have a shower or something and give CC some time to get it all sorted. If people keep a running commentary on every little change we'll have 20 pages of "nothing" for everyone else to have to wade through. So calm down, friends Go and do something fun for a while, like theswweet, and then check back in now and then. Pleez. There isn't much to do at 11 PM though | 2010-07-17 23:04:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662 |
*checks back for a second...* woah... i'm the fifth richest person on LBPC ty TCW | 2010-07-17 23:06:00 Author: theswweet Posts: 2468 |
I technically haven't survived the first week | 2010-07-17 23:07:00 Author: Kern Posts: 5078 |
Who would of guessed 2012 would come so soon! | 2010-07-17 23:08:00 Author: Enlong3 Posts: 357 |
ok... back to spore i go! | 2010-07-17 23:10:00 Author: theswweet Posts: 2468 |
I know Babydoll said not to do this... but I just HAVE to mention this... Comph and Aya have 0% activity, that means they've never logged on, ever. I have 100% activity (And the only one who does), that means I've never logged off before. | 2010-07-17 23:12:00 Author: Doopz Posts: 5592 |
Can a mode like temp ban doopz for 5 minutes Please | 2010-07-17 23:13:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662 |
Can a mode like temp ban doopz for 5 minutes Please I wouldn't mind that to be honest, although I'm not sure it'd be possible. | 2010-07-17 23:16:00 Author: Doopz Posts: 5592 |
My jealousy levels keep flaring! Haha!! | 2010-07-17 23:16:00 Author: Kern Posts: 5078 |
im sooo happy this is back. LBPC seems even better again | 2010-07-17 23:16:00 Author: Snrm Posts: 6419 |
I just notice this thread...it's rather fantastic, the shop is coming back too right? | 2010-07-17 23:17:00 Author: warlord_evil Posts: 4193 |
Wow, great to see it's coming back - and a huge good luck to CC and everyone else working behind the scenes - big effort needed now EDIT: <--- 0% activity.. CC I think it's not working properly | 2010-07-17 23:19:00 Author: Coxy224 Posts: 2645 |
Being 12th is not good enough!!!! Raaaaaarrrrrrrrr!!!!!! | 2010-07-17 23:19:00 Author: Kern Posts: 5078 |
ok, seems the waters are safe again... i'll post some more. so this is the new exp? not QUITE done, but at least the bars are aligned :/, still can't believe i am a quite active little poster, despite my hiatus... but wow, i have THAT MUCH points? i'm the fifth richest points owner on LBPC!!! this feature seems good though, hopefully the store is back soon... | 2010-07-17 23:20:00 Author: theswweet Posts: 2468 |
I just notice this thread...it's rather fantastic my thread with the most replies on a thread i made ever. lol | 2010-07-17 23:20:00 Author: flamingemu Posts: 1872 |
yes exp is back! now I wound how you use it lol This is very strange but I know ConfusedCartman will explain everything or at leas one of the mods. now I just got a new message and it's name achievements thats really cool XD | 2010-07-17 23:20:00 Author: Arnald23 Posts: 1843 |
If possible can we get rid of the activity bar on posts, the problem with it is we can't all be signed on 24/7 so it just becomes a bar that doesn't fill up. | 2010-07-17 23:23:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662 |
well, if i remember exp right flamingemu, you get points for every reply as well, that could very well explain my huge stash of points: my TCW threads, and etc.... as they have gotten thousands of posts! so that would mean you should have a higher lvl... quite soon! | 2010-07-17 23:23:00 Author: theswweet Posts: 2468 |
Wait, can anyone else see that my group that I made for the chat is highest in the groups?? Or is that just me?? | 2010-07-17 23:25:00 Author: Kern Posts: 5078 |
well, if i remember exp right flamingemu, you get points for every reply as well, that could very well explain my huge stash of points: my TCW threads, and etc.... as they have gotten thousands of posts! OMG Everyone keep posting. lol jk. anyway night night everyone! gonna see if this all makes sense in the morning | 2010-07-17 23:25:00 Author: flamingemu Posts: 1872 |
Hey everyone do you think this is going to become a problem in LBPC like fights, Achievement hunter, or something like that? | 2010-07-17 23:27:00 Author: Arnald23 Posts: 1843 |
hey everyone do you think this is going to become a problem in lbpc like fights, achievement hunter, or something like that? beware the thread-for-threads | 2010-07-17 23:27:00 Author: flamingemu Posts: 1872 |
It never did before so I doubt it will this time. | 2010-07-17 23:28:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662 |
eh, if they spam... then well, they will go the way of the spam can... or just join the randomness group but yah... it wasn't a problem before rly! | 2010-07-17 23:29:00 Author: theswweet Posts: 2468 |
beware the thread-for-threads T4T? wow what have we created we already made H4H and F4F now it will probably be T4T *i'm waking away every slowly* update: the achievements are gone? | 2010-07-17 23:33:00 Author: Arnald23 Posts: 1843 |
YAY thats good, CC obviously noticed they were ugly. | 2010-07-17 23:37:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662 |
[B]T4T? wow what have we created we already made H4H and F4F now it will probably be T4T *i'm waking away every slowly* F4F is a good thing though... is it not? | 2010-07-17 23:37:00 Author: Doopz Posts: 5592 |
Over 2,000 points, that sounds cool! | 2010-07-17 23:38:00 Author: AbstractFlesh Posts: 837 |
F4F is a good thing though... is it not? yes it is! And i hope achievements dont show up below our names but i hope they are still in use | 2010-07-17 23:39:00 Author: Snrm Posts: 6419 |
aah... i liked the achievements! | 2010-07-17 23:40:00 Author: theswweet Posts: 2468 |
F4F is a good thing though... is it not? good point lol aah... i liked the achievements! Me too I miss them already is like collecting trophy in your PS3 but stranger lol | 2010-07-17 23:40:00 Author: Arnald23 Posts: 1843 |
I would like to state that i am level 69, thank you very much. And looks like achievements are fully gone. Hmm i suspect everyones points will go up gradually as i must have more than 11000 and the fact that it was 10200 a second ago | 2010-07-17 23:41:00 Author: Snrm Posts: 6419 |
Deary me, i have EXTREMELY low exp... (rhymes) I better start being more active now. :SH: | 2010-07-17 23:43:00 Author: ThePineapplizer Posts: 769 |
I know this won't do much to stem the flurry of excited posts, but I just wanted to remind everyone that we are definitely in a state of flux. Things will be changing (quite frequently, I might add), bugs will get fixed, and I will be taking feedback into account to some extent as I get things set up, so there's no need to freak out over a change quite yet. I'll let everyone know when the dust has settled - it'll be a little while before we're content with the new system. | 2010-07-17 23:44:00 Author: ConfusedCartman Posts: 3729 |
that is one good thing about XP, it persuades users to be more active, and more helpful members will climb the ranks faster. | 2010-07-17 23:46:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662 |
2 points per thread created, 3 points per friend, 1 point per post. thats as much as I can figure out so far | 2010-07-17 23:46:00 Author: flamingemu Posts: 1872 |
well, if CC is listening, than achievements should be back hopefully! | 2010-07-17 23:46:00 Author: theswweet Posts: 2468 |
Is the store coming back to? 8D | 2010-07-17 23:47:00 Author: AbstractFlesh Posts: 837 |
Someone listen! I want to know why my addicted to the chat group is the highest! Help me! | 2010-07-17 23:50:00 Author: Kern Posts: 5078 |
Is the store coming back to? 8D Well, seeing as CC waited until the store came out (the store and exp are separate things) before installing exp, I'd assume so yes. Someone listen! I want to know why my addicted to the chat group is the highest! Help me! Because CC is still working on it. Your group was probably the best group of the week before EXP left. | 2010-07-17 23:50:00 Author: Doopz Posts: 5592 |
The store will be back in due course, that is actually a separate mod to VBEXP so that will be installed after CC has finished this update. | 2010-07-17 23:50:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662 |
Did you do a recount yet? | 2010-07-17 23:52:00 Author: Enlong3 Posts: 357 |
ty for explaining doopz who else likes the achievements? | 2010-07-17 23:52:00 Author: theswweet Posts: 2468 |
ty for explaining doopz who else likes the achievements? nah. :S I dunno, they're a bit... xbox-y | 2010-07-17 23:53:00 Author: flamingemu Posts: 1872 |
ty for explaining doopz who else likes the achievements? I like the achievements :O EDIT They might not be gone CC just might have made a mistake and changing things and such so dont panic | 2010-07-17 23:54:00 Author: Snrm Posts: 6419 |
well i think they are fun, plus, they are better markers for how active you are, and such! | 2010-07-17 23:55:00 Author: theswweet Posts: 2468 |
I just lost like 12,000 exp! | 2010-07-17 23:56:00 Author: Kern Posts: 5078 |
I just lost like 12,000 exp! calm down remember its in a "beta-ish" phase? | 2010-07-17 23:58:00 Author: Snrm Posts: 6419 |
O_O, could be the change in popularity with your group finally processed... hope it doesn't strike me next O.O | 2010-07-17 23:58:00 Author: theswweet Posts: 2468 |
I think they should be called trophies, thats just my personal professional opinion. | 2010-07-17 23:58:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662 |
strange this is all happening in front of out eyes it cool but strange lol We will find out everything wend CC is done | 2010-07-17 23:58:00 Author: Arnald23 Posts: 1843 |
yay 0% activity | 2010-07-17 23:59:00 Author: rseah Posts: 2701 |
I think the trophies should be sackboy themed, and then they would be not like x-box but like PS3 and LBP. | 2010-07-18 00:00:00 Author: flamingemu Posts: 1872 |
yes, and duh many ppl would like them called trophies, or littlebigachievements... but thats because achievements is x-boxy... i honestly don't care what they are called (have all systems for this gen too) as long as they are here! they are pretty cool... but i lived without them once, if i have too, i can do it again! | 2010-07-18 00:01:00 Author: theswweet Posts: 2468 |
yay 0% activity i keep going down 0.1 % every 5 minutes its pretty funny to watch | 2010-07-18 00:02:00 Author: Snrm Posts: 6419 |
I think they should be called pins. LBP2, anyone? | 2010-07-18 00:02:00 Author: Doopz Posts: 5592 |
yay, they are back! I think we should choose which ones are veiwable on our posts. also, i still has no green dot! | 2010-07-18 00:02:00 Author: flamingemu Posts: 1872 |
w00t! they're back! | 2010-07-18 00:03:00 Author: theswweet Posts: 2468 |
um CC. I found a huge security flaw regarding the experience add-on. Looks like someone diddn't CHMOD correctly. Permission to exploit? | 2010-07-18 00:03:00 Author: Enlong3 Posts: 357 |
So is this just how it was before it was removed? Also, why is my activity zero and it's listing me as having no "achievements"? | 2010-07-18 00:04:00 Author: Arkei Posts: 1432 |
I don't think we should have them at all, think of the wii players please, they may or may not be morons but they don't have a trophy system. | 2010-07-18 00:04:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662 |
/ look, i don't really trust candlepants, and you are affiliated with him, nice guy but... i wouldn't trust him CC | 2010-07-18 00:05:00 Author: theswweet Posts: 2468 |
/ look, i don't really trust candlepants, and you are affiliated with him, nice guy but... i wouldn't trust him CC candlepants? | 2010-07-18 00:07:00 Author: flamingemu Posts: 1872 |
/ look, i don't really trust candlepants, and you are affiliated with him, nice guy but... i wouldn't trust him CC Trust who about what now? ConfusedCandlepants | 2010-07-18 00:08:00 Author: Enlong3 Posts: 357 |
I hope when this thing is finalized I'm still level 54. | 2010-07-18 00:09:00 Author: Silver39 Posts: 1703 |
Yay! They're now Trophies! I still would prefer pins, it would go well with LBP2. | 2010-07-18 00:09:00 Author: Doopz Posts: 5592 |
yah, hes the reason html was removed rly... hes a sneaky member, haven't seen him for a while... but Enlong3 is affiliated with him, and his forum... check the link in his soig | 2010-07-18 00:09:00 Author: theswweet Posts: 2468 |
Wait, how do I have 499 points? | 2010-07-18 00:10:00 Author: Starchy Posts: 353 |
Yay! They're now Trophies! I still would prefer pins, it would go well with LBP2. how about stickers? and they could all be stickers from LBP1/2? | 2010-07-18 00:10:00 Author: flamingemu Posts: 1872 |
yea achievements are back! now I want them to call the achievement trophy more PS3 like lol also *we shouldn't be fight we should do this* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSFBbr8mN9c&feature=related edit: they man it trophies! my wish came true | 2010-07-18 00:10:00 Author: Arnald23 Posts: 1843 |
um CC. I found a huge security flaw regarding the experience add-on. Looks like someone diddn't CHMOD correctly. Permission to exploit? Send me a PM detailing it and I'll take a look. | 2010-07-18 00:10:00 Author: ConfusedCartman Posts: 3729 |
HA ha thanks for listening about trophies CC | 2010-07-18 00:11:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662 |
hey! a new account??? thats WAYYYYY against rules!!! | 2010-07-18 00:11:00 Author: theswweet Posts: 2468 |
hey! a new account??? thats WAYYYYY against rules!!! WHat? what on earth are you on about? | 2010-07-18 00:12:00 Author: flamingemu Posts: 1872 |
Candlepants= Biggest fail ever | 2010-07-18 00:12:00 Author: Snrm Posts: 6419 |
I think we should call the trophies / achievements something cool... not pins or stickers... how about bananas? That would confuse people. | 2010-07-18 00:13:00 Author: napero7 Posts: 1653 |
Enlong is another member in a new account... Candlepants! robotoid, remember that song he embedded in his post? | 2010-07-18 00:14:00 Author: theswweet Posts: 2468 |
One thing that is annoying me is the placement off the little big exp in the nav bar, can we have it swapped around with whats new, this way the nav bar is a little more organised, and I wont keep clicking the wrong link. | 2010-07-18 00:14:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662 |
This system is completely broken. It's not showing me as having any activity, and it says I registered 112 days ago, even though I joined 20 months ago. | 2010-07-18 00:14:00 Author: Arkei Posts: 1432 |
I hope when this thing is finalized I'm still level 54. Oh the irony. | 2010-07-18 00:14:00 Author: Silver39 Posts: 1703 |
what is a referral? can I have one? | 2010-07-18 00:16:00 Author: flamingemu Posts: 1872 |
lol, 53... at least its not 1... as some ppl are! | 2010-07-18 00:17:00 Author: theswweet Posts: 2468 |
what is a referral? can I have one? When people join the site, they can mark down a user that may have led them to this site. If you're marked down, you get a referral. | 2010-07-18 00:20:00 Author: warlord_evil Posts: 4193 |
what is a referral? can I have one? if your serious, its when you talk someone into joining the site basically Edit I have been snipped | 2010-07-18 00:21:00 Author: Snrm Posts: 6419 |
i believe you have your awnser... | 2010-07-18 00:22:00 Author: theswweet Posts: 2468 |
This system is completely broken. It's not showing me as having any activity, and it says I registered 112 days ago, even though I joined 20 months ago. Let me say this again, loud and clear for everyone: THIS SYSTEM HAS NOT YET BEEN CONFIGURED. WE ARE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF DOING SO. This process may take a significant amount of time (a couple more hours, possibly), so do not expect it to function correctly until we have confirmed that it should be working. To everyone: if anyone else posts in this thread asking why the system isn't working, do me a big personal favor and direct them to this post. Thanks! | 2010-07-18 00:23:00 Author: ConfusedCartman Posts: 3729 |
Woah, we actually are keeping achievements/ "trophies Anyway, I think you should make a thread where people can suggest new shop items/ trophies. And perhaps someone can make new trophy icons. Because I personally think that the trophies should be edited a bit. And people should be allowed to suggest what they think would be cool new shop items. Yes. Oh, and just to make sure you know, for some reason the exp calculator apparently calculates it in terms of points and not days. For example, if you have a trophy for being registered two weeks, and each day registered gives you 2 exp, then you need to assign it a value of 28. Just in case you didn't catch that. Saw it in the thread. /runs | 2010-07-18 00:23:00 Author: RockSauron Posts: 10882 |
great... another reason to stay on LBPC!!!! i will never leave nao... lol | 2010-07-18 00:26:00 Author: theswweet Posts: 2468 |
Wow, nine pages in one hour... I think that's a record. | 2010-07-18 00:28:00 Author: Starchy Posts: 353 |
Meh 28th highest exp isn't so bad, I'd prefer to be twelth, maybe it'll go back I hope so | 2010-07-18 00:29:00 Author: Kern Posts: 5078 |
@Kernel, you were just behind me, I was enjoying two cumbrians fighting for the top 10. | 2010-07-18 00:31:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662 |
Meh, I'm calling them bananas, no matter what you say. *Imagine a banana walking with a serious face and saying haters gonna hate* | 2010-07-18 00:33:00 Author: napero7 Posts: 1653 |
uh, no... scientific discussion holds that! had 9 in HALF, an hr - still fainting over rank, theswweet | 2010-07-18 00:35:00 Author: theswweet Posts: 2468 |
I panicked when I went for the what's new button and ended up click this big word and ending up on some strange new page! It was scary! This may take some getting used to! XD | 2010-07-18 00:37:00 Author: Weretigr Posts: 2105 |
Hey guys for the people that have been complying about the name for the award system go to this thread I made I will soon lock it ok Thanks https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=30652-LBPC-award-name | 2010-07-18 00:40:00 Author: Arnald23 Posts: 1843 |
its still updating... ****, i am rich!!! See, i'm not sure how this system is supposed to work, because theswweet is level 85 but he joined around the same time as me and has less of those little green bars? Not that i'm too fussed about it tbh, it's just a number, i'm just curious as to the maths that goes into them | 2010-07-18 00:41:00 Author: Asbestos101 Posts: 1114 |
no worries, git if it a day... the lbpc vets here (6+ months) remember exp... it is AWESOME, and can only be better this time around... btw, CC? can we buy a different name color... it would be nice! and the staff are bolder, so shouldn't be too hard to recognize! | 2010-07-18 00:41:00 Author: theswweet Posts: 2468 |
Meh, I'm calling them bananas, no matter what you say. *Imagine a banana walking with a serious face and saying haters gonna hate* Call achievements "Bananas"? I doubt that'll catch on... ...Hey, I just got another Banana! | 2010-07-18 00:42:00 Author: Starchy Posts: 353 |
Faster record is the LBP2 annoucement thread. Probably around 10 pages in an hour, maybe more. Anyways, this is looking great so far! | 2010-07-18 00:44:00 Author: Testudini Posts: 3262 |
See, i'm not sure how this system is supposed to work, because theswweet is level 85 but he joined around the same time as me and has less of those little green bars? Not that i'm too fussed about it tbh, it's just a number, i'm just curious as to the maths that goes into them Yes, I wonder that too. This is the question that haunts me. | 2010-07-18 00:44:00 Author: Silver39 Posts: 1703 |
Swweet please stop bragging about your rank, you do realise once cc gets all the exp set up forum games posts become void? So you'll lose a tonne of exp | 2010-07-18 00:45:00 Author: Kern Posts: 5078 |
hey! i got an award, hurray for TCW again? huh... its showing it thrice, (ie, its showing it three times...) edit- sry kernel, just excited like a little... will try and tone it down... | 2010-07-18 00:45:00 Author: theswweet Posts: 2468 |
Experience? Achievements? *MIND ASPLODES* | 2010-07-18 00:47:00 Author: Kody59527 Posts: 121 |
Theswweet, your going to lose it all!!! | 2010-07-18 00:47:00 Author: Kern Posts: 5078 |
Call achievements "Bananas"? I doubt that'll catch on... ...Hey, I just got another Banana! Of course it will catch on... if not, I'm going to be the only one talking about bananas But as I said... http://i611.photobucket.com/albums/tt197/napero7/haters.png?t=1279410402 (Done quickly in MS Paint, I think I'll do a better one tomorrow and then use it whenever I get the chance) | 2010-07-18 00:48:00 Author: napero7 Posts: 1653 |
I'm happy | 2010-07-18 00:49:00 Author: piggabling Posts: 2979 |
Guys, Just leave the xp values be for now. They are fluctuating like mad atm - mine's shot up by about 11,000 whilst in the last hour or so, if it carries on at this rate I'll own the world soon enough. Let me repeat what CC has already said: He is still configuring it so forget about the individual values until it's all sorted out. Patience is a virtue | 2010-07-18 00:49:00 Author: rtm223 Posts: 6497 |
See, i'm not sure how this system is supposed to work, because theswweet is level 85 but he joined around the same time as me and has less of those little green bars? Not that i'm too fussed about it tbh, it's just a number, i'm just curious as to the maths that goes into them Posts by thesweet Total Posts 911 Posts by you Total Posts 722 And i can imagine he's more active in other areas. Time and rep have little to do with it m8, more like activity. (Not to mention that like its already been repeated so many times, THIS IS NOT FULLY FUNCTIONAL YET, ITS STILL BEING INSTALLED, GIVE IT SOME TIME FOR CC TO FIX IT!) | 2010-07-18 00:49:00 Author: Silverleon Posts: 6707 |
Swweet please stop bragging about your rank, you do realise once cc gets all the exp set up forum games posts become void? So you'll lose a tonne of exp Uh oh. | 2010-07-18 00:49:00 Author: Silver39 Posts: 1703 |
hey... it happened!i lost 1800 a half hr ago! | 2010-07-18 00:49:00 Author: theswweet Posts: 2468 |
Call achievements "Bananas"? I doubt that'll catch on... ...Hey, I just got another Banana! if you want to debate about that go to this thread: https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=30652-LBPC-award-name | 2010-07-18 00:49:00 Author: Arnald23 Posts: 1843 |
again, sry kernel! i'm just excited, and you are just mad you lost a lot! i don't care rly, its just cool atm, and yes.. i probably will be less than you! but, i lost 1800 earlier, this might be pretty stationary if that was the games! | 2010-07-18 00:53:00 Author: theswweet Posts: 2468 |
*stuffs sock in theswweets mouth and masking tapes it in, ties the sweets ankles and wrists together* | 2010-07-18 00:56:00 Author: Kern Posts: 5078 |
hey! i got an award, hurray for TCW again? huh... its showing it thrice, (ie, its showing it three times...) edit- sry kernel, just excited like a little... will try and tone it down... Yes, I think we all know what thrice means Guys, Just leave the xp values be for now. They are fluctuating like mad atm - mine's shot up by about 11,000 whilst in the last hour or so, if it carries on at this rate I'll own the world soon enough. It's fluctuating? GREAT SCOTT MARTY!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BdtpUVTdxk *stuffs sock in theswweets mouth and masking tapes it in, ties the sweets ankles and wrists together* In the sweets' mouth? Oh the irony! XD | 2010-07-18 00:56:00 Author: Weretigr Posts: 2105 |
*spits out socks* dude... just calm down, i will most likely lose xp very soon, i am very sorry for being a bit rude... as i said, i was excited... but please, lets not start another fight between us... remember the last one? | 2010-07-18 00:59:00 Author: theswweet Posts: 2468 |
*screams a war cry and charges at theswweet* @Dayne I don't see what's ironic about that post, it was to stop him calling for help | 2010-07-18 01:01:00 Author: Kern Posts: 5078 |
This is very cool. | 2010-07-18 01:01:00 Author: Spider-Jew Posts: 1090 |
lol, now i know this is a joke!... *dodges kernelm* | 2010-07-18 01:02:00 Author: theswweet Posts: 2468 |
Shut it swweet, go cradle your exp money bags!!! | 2010-07-18 01:04:00 Author: Kern Posts: 5078 |
*screams a war cry and charges at theswweet* @Dayne I don't see what's ironic about that post, it was to stop him calling for help It was ironic cos you put sweets in your mouth, but your putting something in sweets' mouth. Forget it, the joke's dead! (actually, I think it died just as it left my head... Ah well!) | 2010-07-18 01:05:00 Author: Weretigr Posts: 2105 |
lol, dude... just stop the joke already... i'm SORRY... geez | 2010-07-18 01:06:00 Author: theswweet Posts: 2468 |
I'm not joking | 2010-07-18 01:09:00 Author: Kern Posts: 5078 |
well, plz read my pm i just sent then, i have a right to tell the mods if you are trying to be mean on purpose, and i will... i was wrong, i get it, just stop or i have to tell them! | 2010-07-18 01:11:00 Author: theswweet Posts: 2468 |
As this thread is in site feedback and is about the new XP system, please keep the conversation confined to feedback about the XP system. Also seeing as the system is still in flux, it's probably worth waiting a while before giving your feedback. So shush. All of y'all. This thread is far too noisy for my likings | 2010-07-18 01:15:00 Author: rtm223 Posts: 6497 |
RTM you are 99.9% activity NOOOOOOOB!!! | 2010-07-18 01:18:00 Author: Snrm Posts: 6419 |
thank you rtm, hopefully kernelm will let it go already... i rly am sry! but yes... atm i think its good, and think once both updates are done (shops came out recently, hence the exp for shop!) and prizes are added... it should make LBPC even more awesome! | 2010-07-18 01:19:00 Author: theswweet Posts: 2468 |
As this thread is in site feedback and is about the new XP system, please keep the conversation confined to feedback about the XP system. Also seeing as the system is still in flux, it's probably worth waiting a while before giving your feedback. So shush. All of y'all. This thread is far too noisy for my likings http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImC7qTUW-Yo | 2010-07-18 01:20:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662 |
/ while funny, its the opposite of what the mod wants... still, that deserves a thanks! | 2010-07-18 01:24:00 Author: theswweet Posts: 2468 |
And it just so happened to be my birthday too! Coincendce? I think not | 2010-07-18 02:08:00 Author: JKthree Posts: 1125 |
just wait!... shop is next | 2010-07-18 02:12:00 Author: theswweet Posts: 2468 |
I have to ask: Does APU (Auto Profile Upgrade) still work? Or do we use shop now? | 2010-07-18 02:37:00 Author: JspOt Posts: 3607 |
just wait!... shop is next Thats what i'm waiting for if I can change my user name that wound be incredible | 2010-07-18 02:39:00 Author: Arnald23 Posts: 1843 |
right now i am hoping if i can spice up my names look... different color, different font... maybe change it a mite (not much, just capitalize the t... and add some pizazz | 2010-07-18 02:42:00 Author: theswweet Posts: 2468 |
'nother question: You get exp through posting, right? | 2010-07-18 02:42:00 Author: JspOt Posts: 3607 |
yes, every post adds a little... kind of basic rly. | 2010-07-18 02:46:00 Author: theswweet Posts: 2468 |
'nother question: You get exp through posting, right? I think so? | 2010-07-18 02:46:00 Author: Arnald23 Posts: 1843 |
'nother question: You get exp through posting, right? Yeah. You can check what you get Exp for on your profile. | 2010-07-18 02:47:00 Author: Starchy Posts: 353 |
well... should be fine by 10 clock... and shop should be running/downloading very soon | 2010-07-18 02:48:00 Author: theswweet Posts: 2468 |
I'm going to get the ultimate bundle! (if I can ) and change my username to my current PSN name or something fancy . | 2010-07-18 02:51:00 Author: AbstractFlesh Posts: 837 |
but i'm still wounding are points Exp? | 2010-07-18 02:54:00 Author: Arnald23 Posts: 1843 |
Alright, just a quick update for you guys: the experience is now being recounted, user by user. At this rate, it'll be done in about 3-4 hours. Expect fluctuation as this process runs. | 2010-07-18 02:56:00 Author: ConfusedCartman Posts: 3729 |
My activity went up to 99 and down back to ).D: Halp? | 2010-07-18 02:57:00 Author: JspOt Posts: 3607 |
time for the fluctuation... i expect a drop , permanently... but if i is at least 60, i am happy well... off to dinner... should be almost done when i get back on! | 2010-07-18 03:00:00 Author: theswweet Posts: 2468 |
So excited! | 2010-07-18 03:03:00 Author: AbstractFlesh Posts: 837 |
Can't wait for shop! | 2010-07-18 03:03:00 Author: Mastadom Posts: 195 |
Well... a little late to this party, but lemme just say how excited I am to see this feature returning! | 2010-07-18 03:05:00 Author: v0rtex Posts: 1878 |
well... so far, all i lost was activity... probably counting THAT, atm... v0rtex!!! haven't seen yah for a while! | 2010-07-18 03:06:00 Author: theswweet Posts: 2468 |
Alright, just a quick update for you guys: the experience is now being recounted, user by user. At this rate, it'll be done in about 3-4 hours. Expect fluctuation as this process runs. Thanks 4 the update so by tomorrow it should be ready Also user by user! you know that there are 9,868 members and 1,715 Active members in LBPC that is a lot! also can we help you in anyway possible? | 2010-07-18 03:07:00 Author: Arnald23 Posts: 1843 |
probably by logging off, so its not chasing stats bye for realz *exits firefox* | 2010-07-18 03:09:00 Author: theswweet Posts: 2468 |
Hey I still wounder are points exp or are they 2 different things? | 2010-07-18 03:16:00 Author: Arnald23 Posts: 1843 |
Hey I still wounder are points exp or are they 2 different things? More then likely they are the same It could be a new name for it or something. | 2010-07-18 03:18:00 Author: AbstractFlesh Posts: 837 |
More then likely they are the same It could be a new name for it or something. God hope you are right because I have 4,451 Points! and i'm level 42. Also quick question if you can create can your own LBPC trophy so we can use it, what will it be? I was thinking of getting 1,000 views in a thread. Getting a level in the cool page. 100 post in your thread. Getting your level stoplight! ect... | 2010-07-18 03:44:00 Author: Arnald23 Posts: 1843 |
hmm i have no trophies | 2010-07-18 03:46:00 Author: rseah Posts: 2701 |
CC's still workin' on you? | 2010-07-18 03:46:00 Author: JspOt Posts: 3607 |
o lol nvm i have some now the system is still updating i think so meh.. | 2010-07-18 03:52:00 Author: rseah Posts: 2701 |
Its weird to think the system works on each of us individually :o | 2010-07-18 03:56:00 Author: Snrm Posts: 6419 |
back, hmm... no change yet | 2010-07-18 04:09:00 Author: theswweet Posts: 2468 |
Yay! We gots the system back! Plus more! | 2010-07-18 04:15:00 Author: CyberSora Posts: 5551 |
How is my activity zero, I could've sworn I have almost a thousand posts! EDIT- Nevermind! | 2010-07-18 04:16:00 Author: X-FROGBOY-X Posts: 1800 |
Yeah my activity was zero before but it suddenly changed to 99% Just means the system is still updating n stuff | 2010-07-18 04:18:00 Author: rseah Posts: 2701 |
this thread is a mess, wow shop, anyone? | 2010-07-18 04:24:00 Author: oldage Posts: 2824 |
The shop will be up probably by tommaro. seems like Many people are at 99% but none at 100% | 2010-07-18 04:26:00 Author: Snrm Posts: 6419 |
WOOT! Go zero activity! | 2010-07-18 04:30:00 Author: CyberSora Posts: 5551 |
Yeah I probably won't buy anything from the shop though unless it's something really good. Btw gdn001 has 100% activity I think there can only be one user with 100% activity at a time. | 2010-07-18 04:32:00 Author: rseah Posts: 2701 |
LMAO @ posting something about where did they go like a week ago. | 2010-07-18 04:39:00 Author: Madafaku Posts: 738 |
I wonder how the blue bar works..:o Edit As in how for some people its high and low, it doesn't seem to matter how much points you have.. | 2010-07-18 04:45:00 Author: Snrm Posts: 6419 |
I wonder how the blue bar works..:o Edit As in how for some people its high and low, it doesn't seem to matter how much points you have.. My guess is that whenever you gain a certain amount of points, the system automatically levels you up. Same thing on the old XP system, remember? If you bought items with your XP, then your rank goes down. In this case, your level. But that's just guess work. | 2010-07-18 04:48:00 Author: CyberSora Posts: 5551 |
Doesn't it? It kinda seems like that... | 2010-07-18 04:50:00 Author: rseah Posts: 2701 |
Well, from what I can see, the orange bar is more based on the date you joined. People who have less green bars (gems) than me joined earlier, and thus they have a higher level. So I'm guessing that the orange one is more based on join dates and how long you've been active. EDIT: Whoa, never mind. Apparently my orange bar shot up to level 200 in the past few seconds. Well that debunks my whole theory. | 2010-07-18 04:53:00 Author: CyberSora Posts: 5551 |
actually... blue is how close you are to lvt 100(max) orange is how close you are to lvling up and green is activity its kinda confusing | 2010-07-18 04:59:00 Author: theswweet Posts: 2468 |
The blue bar is your level from 0-100. The orange shows how much EXP you need until you go to the next level. The green is your activity amount. | 2010-07-18 05:01:00 Author: warlord_evil Posts: 4193 |
hey can anyone tell me what lvl i am? on psp and wondering if its changed... | 2010-07-18 05:04:00 Author: theswweet Posts: 2468 |
Okay, now I got it. But honesty, I think the system is on crack right now. It's given me a level of 50. Then 200. Now it says I leveled up... to 198. | 2010-07-18 05:04:00 Author: CyberSora Posts: 5551 |
lol... thats messed up! but its doing it one at a time, so working on you atm | 2010-07-18 05:06:00 Author: theswweet Posts: 2468 |
And yet, I still level up/down. Ah... the MW2 good old days. | 2010-07-18 05:14:00 Author: CyberSora Posts: 5551 |
hey can anyone tell me what lvl i am? on psp and wondering if its changed... You're level 85. | 2010-07-18 05:16:00 Author: warlord_evil Posts: 4193 |
well, i guess i stayed put... sry kernel | 2010-07-18 05:25:00 Author: theswweet Posts: 2468 |
These bar things should be downsized. They make everything look bad. Or at least LBPC-ized. | 2010-07-18 05:29:00 Author: Richasackboy Posts: 619 |
well, i guess i stayed put... sry kernel You're 85 and I'm in my 40's? EDIT: Well now I'm apparently level 99, lol (Not trying to be rude/braggy but) Why do so many people with thousands more rep and posts than you have a lower level? Do you know? I think exp is still setting in and stuff though. | 2010-07-18 05:33:00 Author: Incinerator22 Posts: 3251 |
probably cause i am extremely active besides the hiatus? and post quantity causes more? kinda wierd i'm in top ten and only have two gems, thought i was a bit more helpful! but, still nice that i have a lot of activity... | 2010-07-18 05:39:00 Author: theswweet Posts: 2468 |
Well this is all very interesting. The only thing showing up for me right now is my tags.. How random | 2010-07-18 05:46:00 Author: nitewalker11 Posts: 222 |
lol yeah i think the system is still a bit buggy..but meh im sure it will be fixed soon. @richasackboy i actually like the size it fits in nicely | 2010-07-18 06:06:00 Author: rseah Posts: 2701 |
I want the shop! like now ! I want to Change name and get custom text under my Name! | 2010-07-18 06:20:00 Author: Alec Posts: 3871 |
yay. vBexp is back! | 2010-07-18 06:30:00 Author: applepod124 Posts: 163 |
Thanks CC for re introducing EXP. Like Robotiod I gave a lot of points away. Still, when the dust clears, please I would like to know how the final computing is done since I don't understand it :blush: And, I seem to be here from only one hundred days while it's more than 2 years and a half, so something in the calendar is not working properly. | 2010-07-18 06:31:00 Author: OmegaSlayer Posts: 5112 |
i know right? the calender is jack atm | 2010-07-18 06:39:00 Author: theswweet Posts: 2468 |
Is my activity fixed? EDIT: Lol, I guess so. | 2010-07-18 06:45:00 Author: Mastadom Posts: 195 |
my god. Cartmann you are a legend. i have seen you on for hours working on XP. That is incredible, and if i do say you are AWESOME! and everyone on this thread is complaining of bugs but if we had a bad admin it would take 2 weeks to get this done and your getting it done in a day. Thats Amazing Thank you CC | 2010-07-18 07:10:00 Author: Snrm Posts: 6419 |
yah! ty dude! | 2010-07-18 07:31:00 Author: theswweet Posts: 2468 |
WOOT! My level is now stable. And I think the reason why so many low rep'ed members have a higher level than others, is because some of their posts come the Forum Games section. So, technically they're unofficially a higher level. | 2010-07-18 08:08:00 Author: CyberSora Posts: 5551 |
Everyone who reads this, please spread the word to others who will miss it: the recount is still ongoing 5 hours later, so I'm going to sleep for the night (the recount itself is automated, and will continue in my absence). I will resume work on the system in the morning. If it turns out some numbers are inaccurate or just plain wrong, don't worry too much about it. vBExperience doesn't actually have any effect on your forum activities yet - it's still just some pretty colored bars with numbers attached. It doesn't actually mean anything until we say it does. Goodnight everyone! | 2010-07-18 08:29:00 Author: ConfusedCartman Posts: 3729 |
Everyone who reads this, please spread the word to others who will miss it: the recount is still ongoing 5 hours later, so I'm going to sleep for the night (the recount itself is automated, and will continue in my absence). I will resume work on the system in the morning. If it turns out some numbers are inaccurate or just plain wrong, don't worry too much about it. vBExperience doesn't actually have any effect on your forum activities yet - it's still just some pretty colored bars with numbers attached. It doesn't actually mean anything until we say it does. Goodnight everyone! Thanks CC! You deserve to sleep after the work you've done! G'night! (Even though it's 8:35AM here lol) EDIT: Hey! CC it must be counting your exp now, you have 0. | 2010-07-18 08:35:00 Author: Doopz Posts: 5592 |
This is scary I don't know what to do... | 2010-07-18 08:59:00 Author: koltonaugust Posts: 1382 |
Still 59.... | 2010-07-18 09:12:00 Author: Kern Posts: 5078 |
keep posting guys, *rubs hands together* anyway, why does kaultan have double-trophies? | 2010-07-18 09:39:00 Author: flamingemu Posts: 1872 |
keep posting guys, *rubs hands together* anyway, why does kaultan have double-trophies? Let me say this again, loud and clear for everyone: THIS SYSTEM HAS NOT YET BEEN CONFIGURED. WE ARE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF DOING SO. This process may take a significant amount of time (a couple more hours, possibly), so do not expect it to function correctly until we have confirmed that it should be working. To everyone: if anyone else posts in this thread asking why the system isn't working, do me a big personal favor and direct them to this post. Thanks! Yes. ........... | 2010-07-18 09:43:00 Author: Doopz Posts: 5592 |
Yes. ........... Forgot about that also trophies ideas: first group http://www.littlebigresource.com/images/stickers/cute_face.jpg recommendation 2nd class http://www.littlebigresource.com/images/stickers/pink_wrestler_face.jpg recommendation 1st class http://www.littlebigresource.com/images/stickers/red_wrestler_face.jpg 7 days http://www.littlebigresource.com/images/stickers/cow_udders.jpg 31 days http://www.littlebigresource.com/images/stickers/cow_head.jpg 3 months http://www.littlebigresource.com/images/stickers/rubber_duck.jpg 1 year http://www.littlebigresource.com/images/stickers/pinata_dog.jpg 50,000 EXP: http://www.ps3attitude.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/sackboy_golden_crown.jpg others i dunno | 2010-07-18 09:46:00 Author: flamingemu Posts: 1872 |
Whoa! I don't come on for a day and BAM! Exp everywhere! | 2010-07-18 14:57:00 Author: trip090 Posts: 1562 |
OOOooooh it'll be interesting to see how all this works!! | 2010-07-18 15:25:00 Author: Weretigr Posts: 2105 |
Oh, this explains a lot. :L Last night I had no idea what was going on, apart from of course knowing that XP IS BACK! This made my day. CC, your dedication to this site is amazing, I would never be able to come close to the level of commitment that you show. Thanks! | 2010-07-18 15:31:00 Author: resistance1 Posts: 812 |
So, is there a way to not display all that like you can disable avatars and signatures? | 2010-07-18 18:00:00 Author: Syroc Posts: 3193 |
So, is there a way to not display all that like you can disable avatars and signatures? No, I don't believe so. CC may be working on something like that though, but before XP left I don't think you could. | 2010-07-18 18:29:00 Author: resistance1 Posts: 812 |
ok, my points apparently aren't from forum games... i think it already sorted that out anyways. but it says i have 14,666 points from attachments... wow, attachments give a lot! EDIT- got a screenie lol... attachment!file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/James/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/moz-screenshot.png file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/James/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/moz-screenshot-1.png and its puny whatever... you can check my profile i think :/ | 2010-07-18 19:00:00 Author: theswweet Posts: 2468 |
I'm sure that is a mistake. | 2010-07-18 19:15:00 Author: Boomy Posts: 3701 |
hm, 60 points for attachment.... about 250 attachments if thats the norm, i could see that with all my vet stamps, and logos... being attachments! so maybe group attachs are more? whatever, i have a feeling its right for some reason... | 2010-07-18 19:21:00 Author: theswweet Posts: 2468 |
well when XP was here before i believe it was not below our name you had to click the person's username if i remember right. I like the bars below our names though, it looks cool | 2010-07-18 19:21:00 Author: Snrm Posts: 6419 |
still confused how i got so much points from attachments... but hey, cc will fix if its a glitch! | 2010-07-18 19:25:00 Author: theswweet Posts: 2468 |
The weightings still need updating - I pointed out the attachments issue to CC last night. You also currently get +10xp for each infraction point you get... So yes, the system still needs finalising. I'm struggling to see how you guys aren't getting that yet | 2010-07-18 19:29:00 Author: rtm223 Posts: 6497 |
i get that... still can't believe the calendar is so messed up though :/ | 2010-07-18 19:33:00 Author: theswweet Posts: 2468 |
We do get that its just fun to talk about flaws we find! | 2010-07-18 19:33:00 Author: Snrm Posts: 6419 |
storestorestorestorestorestorestorestorestore! [/end master chief machinima] | 2010-07-18 19:51:00 Author: Richasackboy Posts: 619 |
We do get that its just fun to talk about flaws we find! So true! Oh look, I've been here for 69 days! | 2010-07-18 20:05:00 Author: CyberSora Posts: 5551 |
Im level 69. But thats not a flaw... i think its just coincidence | 2010-07-18 20:08:00 Author: Snrm Posts: 6419 |
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