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Is Rock Music Dying Out?

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It seems that all teenagers want to listen today is hip hop. We talking Usher, B.o.B, and those other dudes. But what about Rock? Do you think Rock music is still as strong as it once was? Do you think there's the possibility it might die? I heard that almost 95% of kids now listen hip hop over rock.



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Author:
Enlong3
Posts: 357

Boooo Hip Hop! Rock FTW!2010-07-15 19:04:00

Author:
Alec
Posts: 3871

Uh....well you can usually tell how many people listen to rock by clothes, most of the time. Emo/Scene kids, kids that wear illegible band shirts, people that know how to play the guitar and others in that criteria versus all the....can I say hussy in the forum? And yes I meant to spell hussy, as in the girls that dress in very short clothing, anyway, the hussy "gangster girls" and the ridiculously baggy clothing wearing "gangster boys". And since I see more emo/rocker kids than "gangsters" I'd say rock is pretty alive d00d, it's never gonna die.

Edit: to make resistance happy, some people that listen to rock also listen to hip hop, but they mostly listen to rock.		2010-07-15 19:30:00

Author:
Unknown User

Well EMO's listen to depressive music, and rock isn't really depressing imo :/2010-07-15 19:34:00

Author:
Alec
Posts: 3871

Well EMO's listen to depressive music, and rock isn't really depressing imo :/

No. Stereotypes are retarded people should stop believing...most of them. Emo is now just a way of dressing, the music they listen to varies from hip hop to any kind of rock, and besides there really is no 'Depressing Music' genre, sure some love songs might be sad but its just one song out of the whole bands album/whatever ,maybe. I just really hate when people say emos are depressive people and cut themselves, stereotypes eff up your mind. Man it sucks typing on an iPod :|		2010-07-15 19:42:00

Author:
Unknown User

Yeh, that's true...

I mean, at school, everyone listens to Usher, Snoop Dogg, Jay-Z, Beyonce, Rihanna, and stuff like that. Absolutely nobody knows who are Between The Trees, Yellowcard, The Notwist, TFK, Secondhand Serenade, Lovers and Liars, Matchbox Twenty, Good Charlotte, etc...

Even The Fray or OneRepublic seem to be little-known

- The Fray ? Who's that ?
- C'mon, ya know... The ones who's sung How To Save A Life...
- YEEEAHHH Greyz Anatommie FTW ?!??!???!
...

Paramore is well-known though (Twilight... )		2010-07-15 19:48:00

Author:
Oddmania
Posts: 1305

Rock music won't die out for a long time.

its just one song out of the whole bands album/whatever
Every Cold Play song I've heard is depressing...		2010-07-15 19:48:00

Author:
lifeiscrapislife
Posts: 396

Paramore is well-known though (Twilight... )

I totally listened to paramore before twilight

and @poster above but Coldplay isnt in a genre called Depressing music right? and also I sorta dont think its depressing ._. Shiver wasn't depressing....

Also most people agree Coldplay is Alternative anyway.		2010-07-15 20:16:00

Author:
Unknown User

Hayley Williams... mmmmm......2010-07-15 20:18:00

Author:
Enlong3
Posts: 357

I totally listened to paramore before twilight

Sure, so did I. I was talking about my school and what my friends listen to...		2010-07-15 20:19:00

Author:
Oddmania
Posts: 1305

Sad thing is, music like this is what's killing rock.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-w6cYoEu_P4

This sounds better and it's taking the mickey out of awful pop music. (WARNING! Contains language).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijr4rwb2WbE
Sad thing is, he's so true.		2010-07-15 20:31:00

Author:
trip090
Posts: 1562

@ Inanimacy, you contradict yourself. In your first post you used the type of clothing that people wear to determine what type of music they listen to - You pretty much said that everyone that listens to rock dress like emos and all people that listen to hip hop are gangsters... Then in your second post you say 'Emo is now just a way of dressing, the music they listen to varies from hip hop to any kind of rock.'

You, good sir, need to make your mind up! 		2010-07-15 20:40:00

Author:
resistance1
Posts: 812

@ Inanimacy, you contradict yourself. In your first post you used the type of clothing that people wear to determine what type of music they listen to - You pretty much said that everyone that listens to rock dress like emos and all people that listen to hip hop are gangsters... Then in your second post you say 'Emo is now just a way of dressing, the music they listen to varies from hip hop to any kind of rock.'

You, good sir, need to make your mind up!

If you've ever seen some of my other posts, i claim that hypocracy is a fun thing. so i know i was sort of hypocritical about it....if thats even a word. hehe

and there i edited my first post xD		2010-07-15 20:43:00

Author:
Unknown User

I don't think there's any danger of rock dying. It may evolve at the hands of groups like gorilaz, NIN, or Freezpop (or any number of remix producers).

Also, the "power stance", and "fist pump" are just too much fun for any guitarist and concert goer to let die.		2010-07-15 21:06:00

Author:
swanbrown
Posts: 898

In a simple answer, Music is always developing and tastes change (there has always been more than one genre of music) just because the baroque period finished in 1750 doesn't mean it died.. i think that date is correct. Rock in particular has developed more into Indie now (independent).

remember new genres are being found all the time people are always pushing the boundaries of music genre. You just need to find them.

Unfortunately it seems to be getting easier for people to enter the music industry and people who find the light quickly always have a quick death to. the Who has been around for 50 years an example of something that has been worked for.		2010-07-15 21:36:00

Author:
Pattington_Bear
Posts: 777

Also, somthing else occured to me;

The over-driven guitar, a staple of rock, is the only instrument I've played that can provide the kind of kick-you-in-the-face musical feed back and presance that it does. (I suppose you could argue a full pipe-organ, but not many people have access to one.)

If you have never tried one, go to your local music store, get the keeper to sort you out with a booth, amp, axe, and get him to show you a basic power chord.

Then you'll see why rock can never die.		2010-07-15 22:02:00

Author:
swanbrown
Posts: 898

How could you say that?2010-07-15 22:04:00

Author:
AbstractFlesh
Posts: 837

If you've ever seen some of my other posts, i claim that hypocracy is a fun thing. so i know i was sort of hypocritical about it....if thats even a word. hehe

and there i edited my first post xD

Hypocritical is a word, you'll be pleased to know.

And I wasn't trying to say that people that listen to rock can also listen to hip hop, I was saying that it is perfectly possible for a person to listen to rock and not dress like they're dead. Such as myself.


The over-driven guitar, a staple of rock, is the only instrument I've played that can provide the kind of kick-you-in-the-face musical feed back

Have you ever heard the bagpipes played badly? That certainly hits you in the face. 		2010-07-15 22:07:00

Author:
resistance1
Posts: 812

I heard that almost 95% of kids now listen hip hop over rock. ]

Got a source for that?

I've seen that statistic before, but its only ever been in peoples forum signatures, and that has zero validity.

And no, I don't agree with it.		2010-07-15 22:11:00

Author:
Asbestos101
Posts: 1114

Got a source for that?

I've seen that statistic before, but its only ever been in peoples forum signatures, and that has zero validity.

And no, I don't agree with it.

Don't forget the classic youtube comment:

'92 PERCENT OF TEENS LISTEN TO RAP AND HIP HOP. IF YOU ARE PART OF THE 9 PERCENT THAT HAVE TASTE, THUMBS UP THIS COMMENT AND REPOST IT ON EVERY DECENT ROCK VIDEO EVER.'		2010-07-15 22:29:00

Author:
resistance1
Posts: 812

This is how it has been and how it will go (in my eyes):

Rock and pop takes a walk. Pop begins talking about work, money, how he has become almost like the mafia at work and how he always have the girls flying around him. They walk for a long time. They enter a park. After a while, it seems like Pop repeats himself. While they go Rock notices a flower and says "Hey, look at the flower, it's beautiful." Then pop replies: "WFT Ima gonna feed tha cr*p to mah pitbull!" And so he pulls up the poor flower and walks on with Rock.
Soon he begins talking about work, money, how he has almost become like the mafia at work and how the always have the girls flying around him again. They exit the park and walk along some cliffs. They are high up in the air, and gives a magnificent view of of the ocean below. Then it starts to rain. Rock says: "Oh so sad, it's like the clouds are crying." and so Pop replies: "Don'care, but the clothes R gettin' wet, so ******* the sky!" He says, pulls out his 38. caliber magnum and shoots a few bullets up in the air.
Again he begins to talk about work, money, how he has almost become like the mafia at work and how the always have the girls flying around him again. Suddenly Rock goes to the edge and points down and says: "Hey look at this, come and see." And so Pop follows him and takes a look down. He says: "Ya kiddin with me? Ther's nuthin dwn there but stupid waterz!" Then Rock pushes Pop from the edge and watches him fall down into the ocean, continued by being drowned into the deep blue. Then Rock says: "Exactly!"

Rock FTW!!! 		2010-07-15 22:35:00

Author:
moonwire
Posts: 1627

The metal certainly won't die out, not if tenacious d (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR7U1HIhxfA)'s lyrics have taught me anything (http://www.metrolyrics.com/the-metal-lyrics-tenacious-d.html).2010-07-15 22:37:00

Author:
Asbestos101
Posts: 1114

The metal certainly won't die out, not if tenacious d (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR7U1HIhxfA)'s lyrics have taught me anything (http://www.metrolyrics.com/the-metal-lyrics-tenacious-d.html).

Tenicous D= Legends !		2010-07-15 23:15:00

Author:
Alec
Posts: 3871

TBH, pretty much every music genre has some real quality in it, depending on where you look. You won't find the majority of it looking in the mainstream.

Good quality rock music won't die out... neither will good quality hip hop, good quality electronic, good quality orchestral music, good quality hip-hop, jazz, funk, metal, whatever. Just because it's not the mainstream means nothing.

Who cares what's popular and in the charts - it's rare that the real artists end up dominating the mainstream, and if you are concerned about what all the other kids are listening to... more fool you


Nah, Rock ain't gonna die 		2010-07-15 23:17:00

Author:
rtm223
Posts: 6497

i love jon lajoie's comedy tracks, especially the rap ones.

i don't think rock can possibly die, just like real hip-hop and underground will always be alive even if there's pop trash amalgamations of all the worst parts of every genre clogging up the common meeting place for all music. in the information exchange age we live in now, it's nearly impossible to keep independent music obscure and local, and impossible to keep old, quality music dead and by extension; influencing every new generation to produce a handful of very creative artists.		2010-07-15 23:52:00

Author:
Unknown User

Rock and roll ain't noise pollution, rock and roll ain't gonna die.

If you need to google those lyrics then it is dead.		2010-07-16 00:27:00

Author:
GruntosUK
Posts: 1754

It seems that all teenagers want to listen today is hip hop. We talking Usher, B.o.B, and those other dudes.


Ahem, that is not hip-hip; that is 'rap.'

True hip hop is great. Im talking KRS-1, Public Enemy, Biggie, A Tribe Called Quest.

Just sayin, theres a BIG difference between 'rap' and hip hop.
And if you don't know, now you know. (Biggie Reference!)		2010-07-16 00:31:00

Author:
Mr_T-Shirt
Posts: 1477

Rock and roll ain't noise pollution, rock and roll ain't gonna die.

If you need to google those lyrics then it is dead.

guilty. does this make me a murderer?


KRS-1, Public Enemy, Biggie, A Tribe Called Quest.

yesyesyesyesyesyes!!! a thousand thanks, especially to ATCQ
as Sublime said, "I know because of KRS-ONE". Love that song. He's droppin droppin droppin science droppin history..

Also, I think it fair to call B.o.B. hip hop, but Usher is probably more RnB than anything.

I listen to rock and hip hop in equal measure, I'd say. Used to be strictly classic rock but that got boring. REALLY boring. I mean I still have Queen and stuff on the iPod but I'm now really into current, poppy kinda stuff, but that's neither here nor there... I don't suppose I'd find other Gaga fans from either side in this thread.

I think rock/metal fans are kind of annoying, sometimes. All like 'rock will never diiieeee' 'rock will live foreverrrrrrrr' 'rockrockrock'. branch out, man, live a little. not saying a large portion of hip hop fans arent the same. they get a lot of hate though and i like to stick up for them more.

hip hop is... very cool!		2010-07-16 03:54:00

Author:
monstahr
Posts: 1361

This topic saddens me. Not only the fact that people are stating that Rock is dead, but not even talking about any of those amazing bands that have done so much and the bands that are still playing today that make life worth living. I dont know how old most of you guys are, but What you have to understand that at your grade/high schools, most children are listening to whatever is on the radio at the moment. That is Pop for you. But as an individual, You have to start searching and finding what is right for YOU. dont worry what everyone else is listening to, just listen to what you like, even if you may feel embarrassed if anyone found out what you're listing to. Rock has a huge fanbase, and that fanbase is no longer the majority in schools because children are just not exposed to it.

Rock will not die, and it is no where near dieing. There are still many bands today that are recording and keeping it quite alive. Foo Fighters, Red Hot Chili Peppers, hell even Eric Clapton is performing live at his old age and still draws a Young crowd. And its hard for me to say this, but thanks to the guitar hero games, alot more kids are hearing the rock songs of yesterday and today. The only thing that is dieing is the record stores. Seeing the Virgin megastore in TimeSquare become a forever 21 killed a part of me on the inside. So if you want to save record stores, go to your local one and contribute to them so they wont die out. Having a hard copy of your favorite music is alot more satisfying then just having some crappy MP3 download, you also get to own the very intresting art that represents the music, but I digress im running off topic now.

Also there are many different styles of Rock, you can go industrial with a person favorite of mine, Nine Inch Nails. There is things like Grunge and NuMetal, hell you can eveninto no genre land with some MGMT. (I do not mean there 3 hit songs that are always playing, try listening to some of there other stuff to hear the real MGMT)

If You feel that Rock is dying, Listen to these recently released Albums to prove how alive it really is:

Artist - Album - Release Date
Them Crooked Vultures- Them Crooked Vultures - Released 2009
Pearl Jam - Backspacer - 2009
Foo Fighters - Echos, Silence, Patients, and Grace - 2007
Queens of the Stone Age - Era Vulgaris - 2007
Modest Mouse - We Were Dead Before The Ship Even Sank - 2007

And here are some songs for you kids that you MUST listen to, They also prove that Rock could never die.

Derek and the Dominoes - Layla (basically the best classical rock song ever created. if anyone disagrees by saying Stairway to Heaven, they havent heard Layla)
Smashing Pumpkins - 1979 or Tonight, Tonight, maybe even some Disarm
Foo Fighters - Everlong (yes i know this is now on rockband but give it a real listen to)
Nirvana - Scentless Apprentice
Rolling Stones - Sympathy for the Devil
Nine Inch Nails - Closer
Pearl Jam - Black
Porcupine Tree - Trains
Tool - Lateralus
Jane's Addiction - Jane Says

I could keep on going but you get the point :-P		2010-07-16 04:24:00

Author:
Meta-Armor
Posts: 80

Let's just face it. Rock music was a goner ever since GNR split up. If GNR can't even make real rock music anymore, then Rock music is surely doomed.2010-07-16 04:28:00

Author:
Enlong3
Posts: 357

Let's just face it. Rock music was a goner ever since GNR split up. If GNR can't even make real rock music anymore, then Rock music is surely doomed.

if you mean Guns and Roses, they are a little too repetitive for me, a lot of their songs sound the same. I'll admit i was once into some of their stuff, but its nothing that I will sit down and just listen to anymore. They're a good band for getting you out of the pop mainstream and to help you look into some other bands, since they have the popularity to grab the mainstream audience and have them start to listen to other songs in their genre.		2010-07-16 04:31:00

Author:
Meta-Armor
Posts: 80

Highlight to see my response.



*slow motion*
POWERSLIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!		2010-07-16 04:43:00

Author:
midnight_heist
Posts: 2513

We need to get some of those good bands back together. I guess nowadays the whole world is dominated by solo artists like Weird Al Yankovic.2010-07-16 04:47:00

Author:
Enlong3
Posts: 357

Its definatily not as big as it was in the 70's 80's. But its still big. I know ill always love rock n' roll.

Edit- Red hot chili peppers, rage against the machine, Tool, Alice in chains FTW		2010-07-16 04:59:00

Author:
Jrange378
Posts: 573

Every Coldplay song I've heard is depressing...

I dare you to listen to Yellow without being filled with joy. I dare you.

But back on topic I don't think rock will ever die, but it might be hard to find under all this new Bieber and "popular" music. I honestly don't know anyone willing to listen to the charts that isn't an impressional teenage girl :/		2010-07-16 06:48:00

Author:
Keanster96
Posts: 1436

Ugh... rock/metal is dying and we can't do anything about it... What happened to Metallica, Rage against the machine, System of a down and Avenged Sevenfold? All their new songs are not so good... so typical... they need to return to their old songs...2010-07-16 06:57:00

Author:
Botak_boy
Posts: 56

What happened to Metallica, Rage against the machine, System of a down and Avenged Sevenfold?

RATM haven't released an album for quite a while, and SOAD are 'on hiatus' but I'll agree with you for the Metallica and A7X bit. Metallica should have stopped making music in the 90s and A7X should never have dropped the screaming.		2010-07-16 12:05:00

Author:
resistance1
Posts: 812

Though what others say about rock, which sounds quite reasonable to me, I still can't stop making jokes in my head... New one!

Rock is to music as Stephen Hawking is to the mathematical/physics world. Pop is to music as Stephen Hawking is to the mathematical/physics world... Just without the big brain.		2010-07-16 18:54:00

Author:
moonwire
Posts: 1627

Though what others say about rock, which sounds quite reasonable to me, I still can't stop making jokes in my head... New one!

Rock is to music as Stephen Hawking is to the mathematical/physics world. Pop is to music as Stephen Hawking is to the mathematical/physics world... Just without the big brain.

Rock is to music as Stephen Hawking is to wheelchairs? No?		2010-07-16 20:41:00

Author:
monstahr
Posts: 1361

I think to answer the question better, no its not dying its perfectly healthy at a steady drum beat.2010-07-16 21:11:00

Author:
Unknown User

I think to answer the question better, no its not dying its perfectly healthy at a steady drum beat.

Unless you're talking about power metal, in which case it's perfectly healthy as a 250 bpm drum beat. 		2010-07-16 22:55:00

Author:
resistance1
Posts: 812

Unless you're talking about power metal, in which case it's perfectly healthy as a 250 bpm drum beat.

Everywere I go your there to make some sort of comeback to my posts >>

I hate/love you XD		2010-07-17 00:27:00

Author:
Unknown User

I notice this rock dying out thing too. I don't think it's completely dying out, but it's a lot different from 5 years ago when they had both rock and hip hop [even though it was mostly teen bubblegum stuff] on the radio, or kiis fm. Now they just have aimless, vapid hardcore pop music with auto-tune and no lasting impact on the listener whatsoever. Though I never enjoyed it, I'm starting to miss all the music from the early 2000's.

Then and now:

THEN:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pslgz9o8meM
NOW:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWZ3idp7RlI



DISCLAIMER:
These opinions are expressed by one who isn't involved in these things.		2010-07-17 00:47:00

Author:
Voodeedoo
Posts: 724

ok this is completely my opinion but Music is like Cool Pages, if your gonna constantly complain about all the other types of music STAWP LISTENIN TO THE RADIO, go to the 'Most Hearted' section of the radio..... ..... xD2010-07-17 00:51:00

Author:
Unknown User

Haha yeah; but living with other people, it is difficult not to overhear what's cookin nowadays, knawmean son? But I fear it's only a matter of time before all the good music dies and gets taken over by people who try to imitate it.2010-07-17 00:59:00

Author:
Voodeedoo
Posts: 724

RATM haven't released an album for quite a while, and SOAD are 'on hiatus' but I'll agree with you for the Metallica and A7X bit. Metallica should have stopped making music in the 90s and A7X should never have dropped the screaming.

Disagree with both you and the guy above you. A7X's new stuff is probably better than their old, STST was a good album, but the screaming was pretty poor, and it was a very generic metalcore album. WTF was better, i have a lot of songs on it i like, but again, Matt's voice is far more suited to clean vocals than screaming. COE is the best album they have made by a long way, very little filler on it, and all the songs deserve to be on the album. It's a big progression. ST was not as good, but it still had some good songs on it, ALPOH and Brompton Cocktail, for example. It was their 'Black Album' i guess. And the new album is shaping up to be a return to their ehavier COE/WTF style, there is screaming on it, some songs just have a bit, but 'God hates us' is all screaming. It's another progression. They've evolved, and the problem with a lot of bands is that they don't evolve, and become a parody of what they set out to be.

Metallica should'nt have stopped making music in the 90's, care to explain why you think that? Load and Reload were not great, but they had some good songs (Fuel, The Memory Remains?). St Anger was...terrible. Death Magnetic, on the other hand, is one of the better albums they have made, and a return to their older stuff, pre black album. I don't see the problem.


As for other rock bands, Airbourne, The Answer, Alter Bridge, Velvet Revolver and Wolfmother are all good examples of bands that still play proper music, it isn't dying out. The Hip Hop/rap/crap fad will die out soon enough, and rock/metal will come back again.		2010-07-17 12:54:00

Author:
Unknown User

This thread is dumb. No it isn't. Shut up please. That said, neither is hip hop.

People who listen to all rock seem to think that the hip hop that they hear on mainstream radio is an accurate representation of a whole genre. That's dumb. I seriously wouldn't consider Usher's "OMG" hip hop. That might be the worst song I've heard in a long time, actually.

I don't see what would drive anyone to make this thread. They still play rock on the radio a lot. I'm guessing you saw a bunch of hoodlums on the street somewhere and one of them was wearing an ICP shirt and you must have thought "OMG THOSE KIDS ARE LISTENING TO HIP HOP ROCK IS DEAD :eek:". No my friends, at least where I'm from, we're in the middle of something much worse than the hip hop you hear on the radio. All of the kids at my school love generic, talentless metal, and all of its worst subgenres. Anyone ever here of Brokencyde?		2010-07-18 19:40:00

Author:
qrtda235566
Posts: 3664

I like Death Magnetic, All Nightmare long is my favourite song, the chorus riff gives me shivers down the spine. As for rock, it's definitely not dying out. I have heard Metallica will be up with a new album 2011 or something!
So now Pop (who got saved by an innocent dolphin (bless the cute beings) is being pushed again down the cliff, into the ocean, but now eaten by a shark!		2010-07-18 19:41:00

Author:
moonwire
Posts: 1627

Brokencyde?

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooo

why would you even goooooooooo therrrrrrrreeeeee		2010-07-18 22:56:00

Author:
monstahr
Posts: 1361

Honestly, rock isn't dead or dying and it will never die. period.2010-07-19 20:40:00

Author:
Meta-Armor
Posts: 80

I like Death Magnetic, All Nightmare long is my favourite song, the chorus riff gives me shivers down the spine.

Oh god, the music video for that one is amazing! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S28LDft7cO4&feature=related)

I first saw it when searching for metallica on vidzone.

It does seem like they are copying megadeth old megadeth just a bit, thematically speaking.		2010-07-19 20:52:00

Author:
Asbestos101
Posts: 1114

Oh god, the music video for that one is amazing! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S28LDft7cO4&feature=related)

I first saw it when searching for metallica on vidzone.

It does seem like they are copying megadeth old megadeth just a bit, thematically speaking.

Communist zombies? Epic indeed. 		2010-07-19 21:11:00

Author:
resistance1
Posts: 812

Tenacious D rocks, random alert!2010-07-19 21:50:00

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