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BP Oil Spill
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| Here we shall intellegently discuss the British Petrolium Oil Spill. This incident WILL affect us for the rest of our lives. Soon, if no action is taken, all sea life could be gone, which means a giant gap in the food chain, leading to much to most of our meat gone. We'll never be able to fish, and if the oil reaches the whole entire world, people could die, lose their jobs, the economic crisis could be even worse... | 2010-07-02 03:44:00 Author: TheOfficialVen  Posts: 155 |
| BP's first mistake was to remove their maskot: http://blogg.vk.se/uploads/439/images/bp_pyssling.jpg It's been going downhill ever since... Ps. is'nt the chairman of BP swedish? | 2010-07-02 19:50:00 Author: kiwin  Posts: 218 |
| Yeah, the spill is terrible. Wasn't it due to a neglected safety switch or something along those lines? All they had to do was monitor everything more closely and actually spend the money they get, by making us overpay for the stupid gas, to fix the problems. It's all about the money. When you have billions, why can't you spend a couple million to: 1. Fix your neglected oil rigs? 2. Spend some time helping the enviornment you're destroying so we don't have to life with it 15 years down the road? Ugh... I need a pillow to punch... :/ | 2010-07-02 19:58:00 Author: piggabling  Posts: 2979 |
| It was due to a robot that wasn't being watched over well at all crashing hard into the oil rig. | 2010-07-02 21:52:00 Author: TheOfficialVen Posts: 155 |
Well, then they should've watched that closer. No matter which way you put it, it was BP's fault. Garr!!  | 2010-07-02 22:10:00 Author: piggabling Posts: 2979 |
I'd like to point out, no matter what happens, Earth will continue to be able to harvest life, It may not be human life, but life will soldier on relentless  For the actual spill, I'd also like to point out that its actually the 3rd worst thats happened in the past 30 years; The Worst being in 1991 when 5,700,000 barrels of oil were lost and in 1979 when 3,300,000 barrels lost, compared to the recent spill at 1,080,000, which is dwarfed comparitively what im more worried about is the thing they are using to clump the oil together which is called Corexit, basically it breaks it up into smaller droplets but unfortuantely its incredibly toxic and carcinogenic, the worst of it is that they are using 3 million litres of it. Our best bet is to produce synthetically engineered oil eating bacteria such as (Alcanivorax borkumensis) but because it requires nitrogen and phosphorous it limits how fast it can reproduce. But this would also cause more problems due to the fact that sudden blooms in Bacteria can use up all of the available oxygen and kill most of the life. | 2010-07-02 22:58:00 Author: Kern  Posts: 5078 |
| everytime you don't watch a robot they screw things up, first it broke the pipe...then it capped it but shortly after broke it...and fast forward later and we get the whole Wall-E incident :/ lol | 2010-07-02 23:38:00 Author: Littlebigdude805  Posts: 1924 |
| just ignore my post and jump straight to the apocalypse is upon is if you want. | 2010-07-02 23:46:00 Author: Kern Posts: 5078 |
| Soon, if no action is taken, all sea life could be gone I'm sorry, do you have a reputable source for this?? Because it sounds like the ravings of a madman. Especially when your projection for worst case scenario from "all sea life being gone" is further economic downturn  This is a terrible tragedy, but as oil spills go, there is a long way to go before it becomes Armageddon. And it's not as though they aren't trying to stop it - it's just an incredibly complex and difficult issue to deal with. | 2010-07-02 23:54:00 Author: rtm223  Posts: 6497 |
| I think what makes this the tragedy epic (and I do not mean that in the awesome sense) is what it's doing to Louisiana. Barely five years after Katrina, while people are still rebuilding, an oil spill comes along in the Gulf of Mexico and obliterates the livelihoods of so many people already weakened from one recent tragedy. Sadly though, this is the kind of thing that happens when small increases in profits trump safety. BP's higher-up's should be ashamed of themselves. | 2010-07-03 01:28:00 Author: Malahk Angel  Posts: 59 |
| i don't really care it's not affecting me......yet | 2010-07-03 07:30:00 Author: ktmbillyjr  Posts: 177 |
| i don't really care it's not affecting me......yet .............  Others are suffering this... anyone know anything that an 11 year old kid can do to help? | 2010-07-03 07:43:00 Author: JspOt  Posts: 3607 |
| They're literally breaking safety laws right now. | 2010-07-03 07:53:00 Author: Tyler  Posts: 663 |
| Pretty sure its 'Beyond Petroleum' not British Petroleum, sorry just if it was an intelligent discussion thought it might be a good idea to get it right. http://rudefox.com/bp-plc-is-still-recognized-as-british-petroleum-by-public/ | 2010-07-03 10:00:00 Author: Boomy  Posts: 3701 |
| How can we have an intelligent discussion If you don't have a source for you extravagant claims? | 2010-07-03 10:05:00 Author: Kern Posts: 5078 |
| Pretty sure its 'Beyond Petroleum' not British Petroleum, sorry just if it was an intelligent discussion thought it might be a good idea to get it right. http://rudefox.com/bp-plc-is-still-recognized-as-british-petroleum-by-public/ It doesn't actually. "beyond petroleum" is the tagline. The official name is "bp: beyond pretroleum". | 2010-07-03 10:29:00 Author: Syroc  Posts: 3193 |
| How can we have an intelligent discussion If you don't have a source for you extravagant claims? What extravagant claims? | 2010-07-03 11:02:00 Author: Boomy Posts: 3701 |
| What extravagant claims? That all sea life will die out | 2010-07-03 11:10:00 Author: Kern Posts: 5078 |
| Would I be cruel to say I don't care? I remember getting an infraction for saying "LOL HAITI" after the earthquake in Haiti. I don't know why I bring that up, though, as these two are completely unrelated. Like, there's nothing relating them at all besides that they're both disasters. Maybe it's because I live in Northeastern America, but I don't care at all. I'm sick of all these people boycotting BP oil. I don't really understand who that's hurting, BP or the gas stations. | 2010-07-03 11:41:00 Author: qrtda235566 Posts: 3664 |
| Considering pretty much everything is manufactured via oil, and a large amount of it is gotten by BP, boycotting BP or oil companies leaves you fairly limited. | 2010-07-03 11:53:00 Author: Boomy Posts: 3701 |
| That's the problem though isn't it? The human race IS controlled by the oil industry, we keep saying that renewable resources will support us but solar provides something like 10 % what happens when all the oil disapears? The collapse of civilisation? I doubt it but we do need to wean ourselves off the sticky black stuff | 2010-07-03 12:27:00 Author: Kern Posts: 5078 |
| That's the problem though isn't it? The human race IS controlled by the oil industry, we keep saying that renewable resources will support us but solar provides something like 10 % what happens when all the oil disapears? The collapse of civilisation? I doubt it but we do need to wean ourselves off the sticky black stuff I have a hard time telling if this is paranoia or if it's the truth right now. | 2010-07-03 12:30:00 Author: qrtda235566 Posts: 3664 |
| http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5C9Q7ZLMVM | 2010-07-03 13:43:00 Author: Killian  Posts: 2575 |
| That's the problem though isn't it? The human race IS controlled by the oil industry, we keep saying that renewable resources will support us but solar provides something like 10 % what happens when all the oil disapears? The collapse of civilisation? I doubt it but we do need to wean ourselves off the sticky black stuff That's a lot easier said then done. Coming up with alternative energy to power our engines is one thing, but in addition to being used as fuel, petroleum is also a major ingredient in an unbelievable number of everyday products that most people don't even realize. Plastic manufactring needs oils, chemical manufacturing often needs oil, even a simple bottle of shampoo basically needs oil for virtually every component that makes it. Trying to rid ourselves of our dependancy on it would virtually require a massive restructuring of human society as we know it. I can't really imagine how we'd begin (alternative energy for cars aside) but unless humanity dies out before the stuff runs out I guess we'll find out sooner or later... | 2010-07-03 16:39:00 Author: Dapiek Absaroka  Posts: 512 |
| I never said it'd be easy, I said it's necessary | 2010-07-03 17:11:00 Author: Kern Posts: 5078 |
All sea life would be gone because the oil would kill birds, because it would cover their feathers disallowing them to fly which is necessary for their kind. Dolphins and other sea mammals wouldn't be able to breathe because oil is rather heavy and they'd need to jump out of the water. It could get in krill or other small prey and whales could die out from digesting OIIIIIL. And that's a few BIG gaps in the food chain, and even a small gap in a food chain could lead to a supermongoussupermegabigawesomeepichuge gap.  | 2010-07-03 19:36:00 Author: TheOfficialVen Posts: 155 |
| http://twistedsifter.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/funny-bp-poster.jpg not made by me. look here (http://twistedsifter.com/2010/05/funny-creative-bp-logos-competition/) for more! | 2010-07-03 19:47:00 Author: flamingemu  Posts: 1872 |
| They're all just money grabbing *ahem* horrible people who do not care about the environment. Let's make fun of them. http://www.logomyway.com//logos_new/BPLogoRedesignContest_1746/thumb/bp_logo1_1.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AAa0gd7ClM | 2010-07-03 20:30:00 Author: Weretigr  Posts: 2105 |
| BP DOESN'T CARE ABOUT THE EARTH BECAUSE THEY'RE ALIENS. Oh **** guys I think I found BP out. Only earthlings care about this planet, if BP are from Byprozine Pnebula, then it would make more sense. They're aliens. OH NOES! | 2010-07-05 13:05:00 Author: qrtda235566 Posts: 3664 |
| They're aliens. OH NOES! I knew it. | 2010-07-05 14:40:00 Author: AbstractFlesh  Posts: 837 |
| Yes, it is terrible that this oil spill has taken place, but before the US start moaning and feeling sorry for themselves too much, they should remember one thing. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhopal_disaster What goes around comes around...... | 2010-07-05 15:03:00 Author: Mr_T-Shirt  Posts: 1477 |
| I like Russia's suggestion to plug the hole... Launch a 10 megaton nuclear bomb at it! | 2010-07-05 22:20:00 Author: FlameAtNight  Posts: 405 |
| seriously even when we cleaned this up they are gonne build anotherone!! Seriously WORLD invest in windturbines and green-energy!! | 2010-07-05 23:00:00 Author: Smelling-Cowboy  Posts: 668 |
| Green energy is a lie, a ploy for many politicians to make money. Like it or not, oil is the only plausible answer right now. Before anyone asks me to back up my comment: Spain. Do the rest yourselves. Edit: Sorry if I come off as harsh, I'm still in "Conservative commenting at HuffPo, take no prisoners" mode.  | 2010-07-05 23:16:00 Author: Voltergeist  Posts: 1702 |
| Green energy is a lie No cake is a lie. Green energy is awsome PEACE man save the trees xD | 2010-07-05 23:19:00 Author: Smelling-Cowboy Posts: 668 |
| But it doesn't work plausibly! Windmills, solar, ethanol, none of them work well enough for the general population. Plus, the hypocritical liberals put restrictions on how they can be used: for example, "Solar screens in the desert? BUT WUT ABOUT THE (Insert name of useless species here)???". | 2010-07-06 01:36:00 Author: Voltergeist Posts: 1702 |
| Yes, it is terrible that this oil spill has taken place, but before the US start moaning and feeling sorry for themselves too much, they should remember one thing. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhopal_disaster What goes around comes around...... Oooooh... Nevermind, the oil spill is a good thing because some american company caused a tragedy in India. Silly me! Oh, and just in case some of you don't know, everyone in America is psychic and mentally connected. So, if someone makes a mistake, it's actually everyone's mistake because over here we're actually all just one sentient being spread out through multiple bodies. | 2010-07-06 02:48:00 Author: qrtda235566 Posts: 3664 |
| Just to reiterate what bluebulletbill posted - we have no feasible alternative to fossil fuels. It's nice and easy for people to say "World: invest in green energy", because that means you can point the finger at the governments and corporations, and not where it needs to be pointed. At you and me. Our lifestyle choices and culture in the modern world dictate that we need a certain amount of energy production. Green energy cannot provide that quantity. Nuclear Fission cannot provide that quantity. A combination of both would not be sufficient to provide the sheer volume of energy that we consume. Fossil fuels are the only source of power that can provide it. Yes we can supplement fossil fuels with green energy, but it's not really going to make a significant dent on our environmental impact, and certainly wouldn't get us to a point where we wouldn't need oil and so would not be at risk of another catastrophe like this. Fusion might save us from fossil fuels, and in all honesty, that is where I believe the future of our energy production will be coming from. There isn't really any other option. @A_Morton: "What goes around comes around" is possibly the stupidest thing that's been posted in this thread. I think it's likely to be my top tip for stupidest post of the month TBH. | 2010-07-06 10:52:00 Author: rtm223 Posts: 6497 |
| What really warns me is the lack of will to really do something. US is all talking and BP is all lying. I think that if Russians come out of the blue and say: "Plunge the hole with atomic bombs, we've already done it some times and it works", revealing something that they kept hidden very well, there's not really another way to stop it. The spilt is half of Italy, the more they wait, the more they will f' things up. | 2010-07-06 11:41:00 Author: OmegaSlayer Posts: 5112 |
| Green energy is a lie, a ploy for many politicians to make money. Like it or not, oil is the only plausible answer right now. Before anyone asks me to back up my comment: Spain. Do the rest yourselves. Edit: Sorry if I come off as harsh, I'm still in "Conservative commenting at HuffPo, take no prisoners" mode. For the time being, I agree wholeheartedly. Renewable Energy ( I loathe the term "Green") will one day replace oil, but for now, oil is all we have. It's important to find out what will work in the future when our supply dwindles, but until then, I'd like to see these green goats find a more reliable and efficient means of getting across country than an oil powered car/airplane. | 2010-07-06 11:56:00 Author: Malahk Angel Posts: 59 |
| Hit the undo button! Or go into pause mode and surround the oil with dark matter... Oh. I've been playing too much LBP >.< Nah, I'm joking! You could NEVER play too much LBP! | 2010-07-06 16:52:00 Author: Weretigr Posts: 2105 |
| Us PSP users can do one better, square select the oil and choose "static". | 2010-07-06 16:58:00 Author: Voltergeist Posts: 1702 |
| What I find the most annoying is that we delude ourselves into thinking that we have the technolgy to just jump to renewable energy when we don't. And what I hate more than everything (I know it's probably the most used example in "green" history) is that places like Las Vegas has light shows on 24 hours a day, and somehow it's our responsibility to save the planet by turning plugs off? Complete Bull... | 2010-07-06 18:56:00 Author: Kern Posts: 5078 |
| What if the world came up with the technology to harness lightning? Thats pretty much the only solution I can think of to generate an extremely massive amount of electricity in an extremely short amount of time. People use lightning to make glass, so why can't they figure out a way to collect the energy instead? (Not sure if this is even plausible) | 2010-07-06 19:29:00 Author: SupaSack34  Posts: 180 |
| What if the world came up with the technology to harness lightning? Thats pretty much the only solution I can think of to generate an extremely massive amount of electricity in an extremely short amount of time. People use lightning to make glass, so why can't they figure out a way to collect the energy instead? (Not sure if this is even plausible) Although lightning contains 1,000,000 volts of elecricity it's only there for a fraction of a second so we'd need a technology that could quickly convert the electrical energy into something storeable, also you'd need to build it in a place known to have frequent thunderstorms my hope is that nuclear fusion is not a fad | 2010-07-06 19:41:00 Author: Kern Posts: 5078 |
| Nuclear fusion is not a fad, it's the energy of the future. All the difficult part is, is getting enough energy to start the process, then letting it continue by filtering in more hydrogen. And BP's bosses aren't exactly handling this well - the boss was seen swotting around in a million-quid yacht the other day ... not really the best thing for him to be seen doing when there's billions of pounds worth of damage for him to be cleaning up. He should sell his yacht  | 2010-07-06 21:44:00 Author: Holguin86  Posts: 875 |
| I meant to say I hope people don't think it's a fad, I'm fascinated by the process | 2010-07-06 21:48:00 Author: Kern Posts: 5078 |
| Has anyone actually managed to produce a fusion reaction before? Maybe in that ridiculously expensive Large Hadron Collider under Switzerland that hasn't actually made a discovery yet :o | 2010-07-06 21:51:00 Author: Holguin86 Posts: 875 |
| And BP's bosses aren't exactly handling this well - the boss was seen swotting around in a million-quid yacht the other day ... not really the best thing for him to be seen doing when there's billions of pounds worth of damage for him to be cleaning up. He should sell his yacht It's not the CEO's job to clean it up. Simple as. Him spending time with his son will have had no effect whatsoever on getting the problem sorted. Neither would an extra couple of million here or there... But of course those facts don't matter when we can get all angry about something irrelevant There are some big research projects going on ATM that are showing some real promise in terms of fusion. We're still a ways of creating a stable and controlled reaction with which we could generate power from but it looks like we are getting there. edit - I'm actually about a year out of touch a bit with fusion developments, so best to do a bit of research yourself if you are interested, rather than take my word for it! Also the large hadron collider hasn't really cost that much when you put into perspective | 2010-07-06 21:57:00 Author: rtm223 Posts: 6497 |
| Apparently they've developed a fusion reactor down south that has broke even in terms of energy which is a great step forward!! | 2010-07-06 22:00:00 Author: Kern Posts: 5078 |
| Thing is, the high levels of energy are only needed to start the reaction. Once it's started, extra fuel can be fed in to continue it with no additional energy supply (AFAIK). So to make this worthwhile, nuclear fusion stations would have to oprate 24/7, something a lot of people wouldn't be very happy about. | 2010-07-06 22:08:00 Author: Holguin86 Posts: 875 |
| I was under the impression that a very short burst of fusion created a massive amount | 2010-07-06 22:12:00 Author: Kern Posts: 5078 |
| Ummmm, you guys may have dragged this conversation a little off topic now methinks. If we don't get this back on track, I might have to infract the person who started talking about fusion | 2010-07-06 22:14:00 Author: rtm223 Posts: 6497 |
| No!!! I'm sorry!!! BPs bad!!! Boo bp!! | 2010-07-06 22:25:00 Author: Kern Posts: 5078 |
| So, who's seen the ad at the top of LBPC that says BP Oil Spill: blame Obama? | 2010-07-06 22:37:00 Author: Holguin86 Posts: 875 |
| I've been seeing that ad all over political youtube videos. It seems that "someone" has a lot of money to spend on propaganda. On topic: I've watched some videos of the oil spill on beaches. It's pretty nasty looking stuff. | 2010-07-07 00:27:00 Author: Gilgamesh  Posts: 2536 |
| So, who's seen the ad at the top of LBPC that says BP Oil Spill: blame Obama? Mines telling me I can book a table for free doesn't anyone think it's stupid that they clean the seabirds then put them back in the oily water | 2010-07-07 07:48:00 Author: Kern Posts: 5078 |
| well said.. I have heard lots of things said on this matter, from all sea life dying to the use of nukes to try to seal it. If you are going to post things about the spill some sort of link to a reliable news source is preferred. It may be the 3rd worst spill so far but the trouble is we don't know how much more there is to come, the reason it is so hard to seal is because it is probably the deepest hole drilled to date. I have a graphic somewhere I'll see if I can fish it out sometime. EDIT: Well according to this site (http://www.birdabble.com/1189/bp-oil-spill-live-feed-update-lmrp-containment-cap-successful/) the spill has been capped. it may be the worst ever but the flow has stopped | 2010-07-07 08:18:00 Author: Strangepom  Posts: 445 |
| So, who's seen the ad at the top of LBPC that says BP Oil Spill: blame Obama? Well, it is his fault. He should just build a giant space filter and send all of the water in the ocean into this space filter which would filter out all of the oil from the water without harming any of the things living in the ocean and then beam everything back in the correct spot. Instead he's probably just filling out papers. The ***. | 2010-07-07 15:42:00 Author: qrtda235566 Posts: 3664 |
| [QUOTE=Strangepom;518936]well said.. I have heard lots of things said on this matter, from all sea life dying to the use of nukes to try to seal it. If you are going to post things about the spill some sort of link to a reliable news source is preferred. It may be the 3rd worst spill so far but the trouble is we don't know how much more there is to come, the reason it is so hard to seal is because it is probably the deepest hole drilled to date. I have a graphic somewhere I'll see if I can fish it out sometime. EDIT: Well according to this site (http://www.birdabble.com/1189/bp-oil-spill-live-feed-update-lmrp-containment-cap-successful/) the spill has been capped. it may be the worst ever but the flow has stopped[/QUOTE IT ISNT THE WORST EVER!! It's the third worse | 2010-07-07 16:10:00 Author: Kern Posts: 5078 |
| [...]IT ISNT THE WORST EVER!! It's the third worse Indeed but... I would point out that it doesn't make things "better" in any way. The 3rd worst disaster is still a disaster, and we should be trying to avoid them altogether instead of cutting corners for shortsighted gains. | 2010-07-07 16:24:00 Author: Gilgamesh Posts: 2536 |
| Mmh, yes... (wow my thread got big, that's a change XD) but anyways, it's 0% obama's fault. He didn't cause it. Sure, he could help, but he's president, he has a huge load of work on his back... | 2010-07-10 16:12:00 Author: TheOfficialVen Posts: 155 |
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