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I had this on my phone, taken at the create jam for my own memory's and use, but seeing as there's videos everywhere now I may as well post it here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pu0fPO70fXM Its only of gameplay, and taken from my phone so the quality is a little bad, but you can get the basic idea. I'll answer questions you have, if any http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MY2E80Me7Bs&feature=player_embedded#! Thanks Syroc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KaG6HIDyIc&feature=player_embedded And heres a montage of some levels from the event Thanks Donkey Show

2010-06-16 21:39:00 Author: GruntosUK Posts: 1754

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I'll answer questions you have, if any Why??? That's the question on everyone's mind. Also, I think the fans would like a brief synopsis of the backstory of this wonderous creation!

2010-06-16 21:44:00 Author: rtm223 Posts: 6497

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It was a joy to see this develop over the weekend. Absolutely fantastic

2010-06-16 21:46:00 Author: jackofcourse Posts: 1494

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lol - love the cows..... I think they're cows. So what's that material you have on the ground for water? With the top down thing - is it like three thick and five thin from the bottom up in terms of layers to use?

2010-06-16 21:50:00 Author: Morgana25 Posts: 5983

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Why, the water material, of course. Oh... this was a place for Grant to answer questions? *grumble*

2010-06-16 21:52:00 Author: comphermc Posts: 5338

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That's so awesome. Nice work! I loved seeing this creation in the E3 conference as well. I hope I can someday play this level of yours because it honestly looks like a blast. ;D And the water material looks really good. lol

2010-06-16 21:56:00 Author: AeroForce22 Posts: 392

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haha if you listen really closely you can hear all my fantastic ideas. I was the brains behind this level really, I just let Grant build it

2010-06-16 21:57:00 Author: jackofcourse Posts: 1494

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Looks cool! I like how you've used the whole LBP2 thing, great idea.

2010-06-16 22:04:00 Author: Leather-Monkey Posts: 2266

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Looks great, Grant. ^__^

2010-06-16 22:04:00 Author: xkappax Posts: 2569

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I like how you've used the whole LBP2 thing, Well I had my copy of LBP1 in my bag and I offered it to grant, but for some reason his heart was set on playing LBP2... I can't for the life of me understand why Yes, they are cows, and herding cattle into traffic using a flying saucer whilst avoiding kamikazi bovine pilots, has never been so much fun

2010-06-16 22:07:00 Author: rtm223 Posts: 6497

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That's cool looking, nice work.

2010-06-16 22:09:00 Author: X-FROGBOY-X Posts: 1800

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I'm getting a little concerned over your obsession with livestock Grant.... is it really that boring living where you are? Level looks like a lot of fun to play - nice work - but then again you're a pro at sleep deprivation and level creation @ comph - water material you say.... but is it teh real waterz? lol

2010-06-16 22:10:00 Author: Morgana25 Posts: 5983

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I'm gonna become prime minister and pass a law which forces people to post YouTube links as well as embedding. Seriously man, I wanna watch this on my iPod D: Anyways, I saw a snippet of it in the e3 thing. Looks awesome.

2010-06-16 22:28:00 Author: Unknown User

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Here PaddyJ: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pu0fPO70fXM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pu0fPO70fXM[)

2010-06-16 22:33:00 Author: warlord_evil Posts: 4193

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Amazing. 27 Hours?!?! Amazing. Did I say that already? amazing

2010-06-16 22:40:00 Author: v0rtex Posts: 1878

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Less than a day you say? whilst incorporating necessary life-fluids... Congrats Gruntos! I'm not sure how playble it actually looks but I will say it looks nothing at all like Little Big Planet! It looks really amazing... even the kitschy swimming pool animated material! So what other animated material are heading to us? Was Morgana correct in her layer assumption? It seems easier than ever to make a great looking level in no time... so how about the game mechanic? Did it PLAY as good as it looked in less than 24 hours?

2010-06-16 23:01:00 Author: Gravel Posts: 1308

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Wow looks like a lot of fun to play

2010-06-16 23:04:00 Author: Alec Posts: 3871

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Comph and rtm have answered most questions, but they're probably more qualified than me to do so anyway lol - love the cows..... I think they're cows. So what's that material you have on the ground for water? With the top down thing - is it like three thick and five thin from the bottom up in terms of layers to use? Yeah they're cows Morgana they fly the spitfires to It's just an animated texture for the water and it uses the normal planes and the improved camera controls. Why, the water material, of course. Oh... this was a place for Grant to answer questions? *grumble* Haha, no problem, I'm off to bed now anyway so the thread will be left while I sleep, answer away haha if you listen really closely you can hear all my fantastic ideas. I was the brains behind this level really, I just let Grant build it Yep, that's how it worked pretty much You can also hear me say "Highscore my **** at the end, only for you to double the highest with 20 odd thousand points on your next play. Looks cool! I like how you've used the whole LBP2 thing, great idea. Yeah, suprising it was built on LBP2!! Why??? That's the question on everyone's mind. Also, I think the fans would like a brief synopsis of the backstory of this wonderous creation! Cows, kill. That's basically it, the rest is just an excuse to justify that I'm getting a little concerned over your obsession with livestock Grant.... is it really that boring living where you are? Level looks like a lot of fun to play - nice work - but then again you're a pro at sleep deprivation and level creation @ comph - water material you say.... but is it teh real waterz? lol I actually thought that when I was creating it Morgana. I have no bad feelings towards Cows, honest. EDIT: Gravels answer Less than a day you say? whilst incorporating necessary life-fluids... Congrats Gruntos! I'm not sure how playble it actually looks but I will say it looks nothing at all like Little Big Planet! It looks really amazing... even the kitschy swimming pool animated material! So what other animated material are heading to us? Was Morgana correct in her layer assumption? It seems easier than ever to make a great looking level in no time... so how about the game mechanic? Did it PLAY as good as it looked in less than 24 hours? Yeah less than a day, I went to the hotel for sleep about 5am and returned at 10am or so. I didn't have the amount stamina as some people I'll leave it to other people to say how playable it was, it could have used a lot more improvement but it was pretty good for the time I had I think, it's testament t how good the new tools are really. Comph, rtm and wex's level needs a good video because that was really well polished There was a raining effect animated texture, and some moving stars I noticed, but there could have been more. Morgana is correct in the layer assumption, it uses the same as the old LBP. The game mechanic was the same as Smash TV and geometry wars, one stick to move, the other to shoot in then direction you point it. That's basically it

2010-06-16 23:06:00 Author: GruntosUK Posts: 1754

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That looks so fun I love UFO levels. 27 hours isn't as short as it sounds considering they went overnight on this thing. For someone that only has a few hours a day for video games, that easily translates to a week. Anyway, it still looks like a lot of fun. How are the cows programmed to run away from the UFO? Why, the water material, of course. Oh... this was a place for Grant to answer questions? *grumble* That is great to hear. If it can be treated like any other material, it sounds like you can emit it and all sorts of things.

2010-06-16 23:43:00 Author: jjmusicman Posts: 234

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Now I have to ask. How much of those 27 hours did you actually spend making your level as opposed to messing around with the tools? xD I mean, if I had the opportunity to create in LBP2 before the release, I would tinker with EVERYTHING before deciding what to do. Also, once you had your level idea made up, how much time was spent working out the mechanics as opposed to level design (visually)?

2010-06-16 23:52:00 Author: AeroForce22 Posts: 392

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Seriously. I think at launch I'll probably just be a hermit in my room in Create Mode for a few days before I even officially make anything.

2010-06-16 23:52:00 Author: jjmusicman Posts: 234

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Now I have to ask. How much of those 27 hours did you actually spend making your level as opposed to messing around with the tools? xD I mean, if I had the opportunity to create in LBP2 before the release, I would tinker with EVERYTHING before deciding what to do. Also, once you had your level idea made up, how much time was spent working out the mechanics as opposed to level design (visually)? We got a few hours to have a play around first, I played after they asked us to build something specific for ages to. I decided on the controls and basic gameplay first, and once i got that working, which didn't take long at all, maybe 3/4 hours I started playing with scenery and the idea struck me. I spent most of the time tweaking little things and adding little details really. That looks so fun I love UFO levels. 27 hours isn't as short as it sounds considering they went overnight on this thing. For someone that only has a few hours a day for video games, that easily translates to a week. Anyway, it still looks like a lot of fun. How are the cows programmed to run away from the UFO? That is great to hear. If it can be treated like any other material, it sounds like you can emit it and all sorts of things. The water acts like any other material yeah, wex made some fantastic looking waterfalls with it by using the material changing tool thingy The cows have sack tracker switches on them, set to flee, once sack boy hits the radius away they go. The planes have the same set to follow or chase, I can't remember the exact term for it (rtm/comph? lol.).

2010-06-16 23:58:00 Author: GruntosUK Posts: 1754

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Wow that looks like fun, i want to play it now! lol Its so different to LBP1 Well done!

2010-06-17 00:01:00 Author: Fenderjt Posts: 1969

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That's great news! That's actually a great workaround to pourable water because you can just work with a material instead. Oh I forgot if you could set AI to flee in the first game or not (been a long time since I created). Do you still use AI brains or are the cows working by different means of AI (microchips only or something)?

2010-06-17 00:01:00 Author: jjmusicman Posts: 234

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Is it ok to upload this to sackinima? It is awesome!

2010-06-17 00:01:00 Author: moleynator Posts: 2914

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I answered the brain and cow question above jjmusicman they use sack trackers, a new switch. They die with a destroy switch, no brains were used in the harming of the cows Is it ok to upload this to sackinima? It is awesome! Yeah no problem

2010-06-17 00:06:00 Author: GruntosUK Posts: 1754

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Really cool Grant! Funny when I first saw some of the stuff from the trailer that I was thinking about possibly doing something similar to this, but with little tanks and planes. Sorta like that WWII flyer game, but more free roam avoid stuff that comes at you. Thanks for sharing!

2010-06-17 00:06:00 Author: jwwphotos Posts: 11383

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RESPECT such awesomeness in such a short time. no wonder you guys were invited to the jam.

2010-06-17 00:07:00 Author: MegaBlob Posts: 291

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Yeah no problem Thank you! You beast.

2010-06-17 00:12:00 Author: moleynator Posts: 2914

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Wow. I'm very impressed! That is very cool and I can't believe you threw it together so quickly. Looks like great fun!

2010-06-17 00:13:00 Author: mrsupercomputer Posts: 1335

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How many hours do you think that took?

2010-06-17 00:32:00 Author: moleynator Posts: 2914

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I answered the brain and cow question above jjmusicman they use sack trackers, a new switch. They die with a destroy switch, no brains were used in the harming of the cows Yeah no problem Oh okay. I wasn't quite sure if you used those in addition to a brain or something. That's amazing! The less brains, the better I say. Can you now set materials to dissolve OTHER than the dissolve material? The destroy switch just makes them blow up?

2010-06-17 01:01:00 Author: jjmusicman Posts: 234

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Can you now set materials to dissolve OTHER than the dissolve material? The destroy switch just makes them blow up? Alternatively, you can read under the destroy switch options, where one of them is "Dissolve".

2010-06-17 01:12:00 Author: comphermc Posts: 5338

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I still wound how you created that oh well we just have to wait until LBP 2 comes out. Also dude do you feel strange affected play LBP 2 then going back to LBP 1

2010-06-17 01:20:00 Author: Arnald23 Posts: 1843

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That looks like.....something I wouldn't be able to do....but I would eventually figure it out in LBP 2...after...days of playing with the new tools

2010-06-17 02:36:00 Author: Gamerman50 Posts: 72

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The name of the video fits the description of LBP2 from the looks of it lol. Good work, GrantosUK.

2010-06-17 02:48:00 Author: GreatWhite000 Posts: 673

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Looks fantastic! It's incredible how easily you can do something like this, which would be an unholy nightmare to put together in LBP1. Animated rain and star materials you say?? That sounds lovely. I can just see the new Festive Pack coming out shortly after launch, with an animated snowy material. So how much stuff from Mm did you steal?

2010-06-17 03:11:00 Author: Teebonesy Posts: 1937

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The name of this thing cracks me up, I think the animations in the bg look really great. Fine work for 27hours gotta say, really impressed with what you guys created in the game jam. Look forward to see/ hear more about it.

2010-06-17 03:12:00 Author: OneEyedBanshee Posts: 1370

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I had planned on replying to everyone this morning before work but I stayed up way to late last night reading E3 previews and have slept in lol I'll reply to everyone tonight once I get back home!

2010-06-17 07:30:00 Author: GruntosUK Posts: 1754

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Wonderful stuff Grant! Thanks for making and sharing it! I wasn't sold on the top down thing, and I am not yet, but your stuff added a couple of pounds to my bribe. And I still hope that LBP will remain a platformer at heart, since what impressed me more of what I saw is still what you can do with platforming now. And yes, I know that you guys were forced to NOT realize platforming based stuff, so I can't wait.

2010-06-17 07:45:00 Author: OmegaSlayer Posts: 5112

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Slightly better, off-screen version. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MY2E80Me7Bs

2010-06-17 08:13:00 Author: Syroc Posts: 3193

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Grant- Thanks so much for taking the extra time to answer my questions... I really appreciate it! Also wanted to reinterate how AWESOME I think it looks... I only questioned the gameplay because in this and especially the other top-down video I saw (press demo 'crashy-bashy) the users don't seem to get anywhere... wasn't insinuating anything... Your tops to me! Cheers.

2010-06-17 18:06:00 Author: Gravel Posts: 1308

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I can assure you the controls are awesome. It's just that if you don't keep on top of the cows you're pretty much done for Being the expert B.A.D.A.S.S player that I am (tripled the top score of anyone else I think? ) I am definitely the highest authority on this subject Also, I noticed how you mentioned the controls on Crashy Bashy, they work in such a way so if you boost into an opponent when they're quite near the sides it's pretty hard for them to recover from. It helps make it more frantic and a lot more fun. If the controls were any more precise no one would ever get killed, they'd just zoom around dodging each other easily (I've messed with the setting of this one so know first hand )

2010-06-17 18:19:00 Author: jackofcourse Posts: 1494

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jack reminded me of something I hope Mm does. For some reason, I hope they end up making "scores" less useless and more appealing to play for. Maybe giving people's profiles a ranking/score counter based on their high-scores.

2010-06-17 19:44:00 Author: jjmusicman Posts: 234

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Looks fantastic! It's incredible how easily you can do something like this, which would be an unholy nightmare to put together in LBP1. Actually, CCubbage and myself put together something almost identical in concept on LBP1 a few months back, ie: top down gameplay with a ufo shooting lasers at incoming enemies from all directions. I showed him the conceptual prototype, then he took the idea to his workshop and rejigged the mechanics to make something more playable. All that was left to do was for me to create the 3-D background, but I got distracted with other stuff and never got around to it. Shame on me. And before anyone calls bull on me for stating "I thought of it first", rtm will confirm that he played with the prototype months ago

2010-06-17 20:37:00 Author: Ungreth Posts: 2130

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Sorry for the late replys everyone, i finished work and had a quick detour to the pub How many hours do you think that took? I'd say roughly twenty or so, with sleep, distractions, food and cig breaks. It could do with a load more time spending on it, but it shows how good the tools are when you create something that quickly. Oh okay. I wasn't quite sure if you used those in addition to a brain or something. That's amazing! The less brains, the better I say. Can you now set materials to dissolve OTHER than the dissolve material? The destroy switch just makes them blow up? Everything was built out dissolve, due to force of habit (although none of the dissolve was connected to a switch in the end), other than the scenery and the water. The destroy switch can remove any material without destroying what's round it like bombs used to. You get a few options to destroy with it, explode, shrink, grow or vanish if in remember correctly (can someone confirm lol). I still wound how you created that oh well we just have to wait until LBP 2 comes out. Also dude do you feel strange affected play LBP 2 then going back to LBP 1 I went on LBP to check plays etc when I got back, but I havnt touched create mode, I'm saving myself and ideas for LBP2. I'm gonna restart Mars Attacks at some point on LBP2 so I can do my original ideas justice (I'm gonna remove the current levels at some point), so no more of those in LBP1. That looks like.....something I wouldn't be able to do....but I would eventually figure it out in LBP 2...after...days of playing with the new tools Trust me on this, we didn't have a clue either when we started, and look what we did. The tools are so easy and powerful its mind-blowing. o how much stuff from Mm did you steal? Nothing I had To spread my time between create mode and walking to the fridge, I had no time for anything else Wonderful stuff Grant! Thanks for making and sharing it! I wasn't sold on the top down thing, and I am not yet, but your stuff added a couple of pounds to my bribe. And I still hope that LBP will remain a platformer at heart, since what impressed me more of what I saw is still what you can do with platforming now. And yes, I know that you guys were forced to NOT realize platforming based stuff, so I can't wait. There's some great platforming in the story levels, it won't die don't worry, the new tools allow so many possibilities with it. Most of the things I first thought of after the presentation where how to use the tools for puzzles and platforming. We weren't forced to do anything, i think we were all just blown away by, and excited to use the direct control seat. Jack had a fanastic level he showed off, and I cant wait to see what captain cowboy hat does with it. It opens up possibilities for people like me who like to create series, we can mix gameplay up a little. I'm re-creating Mars Attacks for this reason. Grant- Thanks so much for taking the extra time to answer my questions... I really appreciate it! Also wanted to reinterate how AWESOME I think it looks... I only questioned the gameplay because in this and especially the other top-down video I saw (press demo 'crashy-bashy) the users don't seem to get anywhere... wasn't insinuating anything... Your tops to me! Cheers. No problems gravel, I didn't think you were insinuating anything by it I know it rules . It's my pleasure to answer any questions to I can assure you the controls are awesome. It's just that if you don't keep on top of the cows you're pretty much done for Being the expert B.A.D.A.S.S player that I am (tripled the top score of anyone else I think? ) I am definitely the highest authority on this subject Also, I noticed how you mentioned the controls on Crashy Bashy, they work in such a way so if you boost into an opponent when they're quite near the sides it's pretty hard for them to recover from. It helps make it more frantic and a lot more fun. If the controls were any more precise no one would ever get killed, they'd just zoom around dodging each other easily (I've messed with the setting of this one so know first hand ) So you are the ultimate badass at B.A.D.A.S.S then EDIT: sorry for the horrible grammar and spellings but I can't be bothered to edit it

2010-06-17 20:51:00 Author: GruntosUK Posts: 1754

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I feel like I didn't say enough about the level in my first post. I never know what to say. It was really really really really really good. But that's pretty much exactly what my first post said, but with fewer "really"s ... lol. I told you this before, but seriously, if this is what you can do in 20 hours, what you can do once the game is out is going to exceed everyone's expectations. ^__^

2010-06-17 20:58:00 Author: xkappax Posts: 2569

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I have added these to the list.

2010-06-17 21:01:00 Author: schm0 Posts: 1239

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I feel like I didn't say enough about the level in my first post. I never know what to say. It was really really really really really good. But that's pretty much exactly what my first post said, but with fewer "really"s ... lol. I told you this before, but seriously, if this is what you can do in 20 hours, what you can do once the game is out is going to exceed everyone's expectations. ^__^ Don't worry Sara the first comments were fine . I think most people could achieve the same things as I did, honestly, the tools are that good. We were new to them as well to remember!

2010-06-17 21:06:00 Author: GruntosUK Posts: 1754

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Thanks very much for the footage! I can't contain myself anymore! I NEED that game!! I was really jealous, but you all deserved the trip to Mm! Just a shame xkappax and Morgana25 weren't invited too...

2010-06-17 21:14:00 Author: Weretigr Posts: 2105

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Just a shame xkappax and Morgana25 weren't invited too... Yeah I agree. It wasn't too bad though, we had all the catering staff we needed. *Runs as fast as he possibly can*

2010-06-17 21:19:00 Author: jackofcourse Posts: 1494

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Yeah I agree. It wasn't too bad though, we had all the catering staff we needed. *Runs as fast as he possibly can* Don't make me cook some chicken marsala for you, jack, cause i'll do it. (shakes fist) ... oh, wait, ... this isn't exactly helping my case, is it? ^_^;

2010-06-17 21:21:00 Author: xkappax Posts: 2569

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Reminds me of a part in Eddie Izzard's sketch ...the women ruled the empire with the use of poison. "I gias casius will kill [latin name here] and become emperor of rome!" "Very good gias, but have a peach before you go" *takes peach and keels over* Got any ideas yet xkappax ? I don't think morgana's idea of just serving jack will be doing you any favours!! >.<

2010-06-17 21:27:00 Author: Weretigr Posts: 2105

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So this awesome level has been made by you ! You're brilliant, it's the level I expected the most to be in the game. It looks very funny to play.

2010-06-17 21:35:00 Author: Oddmania Posts: 1305

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Looks so cool I WANNA PLAY!:KZ::KZ::KZ:

2010-06-18 12:21:00 Author: Gui_Rike Posts: 184

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The helicopter one had some nice visuals going on with the landscape. I bet i'll be doing more platforming than blowing stuff up though. @ Ungreth/CCubbage: You should totally publish that prototype.

2010-06-18 13:27:00 Author: midnight_heist Posts: 2513

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The helicopter one had some nice visuals going on with the landscape.. woop! Somebody finally noticed my landscapes thank you! thank you! thank you!

2010-06-18 13:37:00 Author: wexfordian Posts: 1904

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woop! Somebody finally noticed my landscapes thank you! thank you! thank you! Imagine how rtm must feel. All those hours he spend tweaking one bomb.

2010-06-18 14:03:00 Author: Syroc Posts: 3193

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It was a Bl00dy nice bomb though!

2010-06-18 14:05:00 Author: wexfordian Posts: 1904

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It was a nice bomb indeed. Of course no one actually gets to witness the awesomeness of my cannon or the complex AI of the tanks (apparently complex AI is a bit of a moot point when you die so freakin' easily! Stupid squidgey tanks

2010-06-18 14:08:00 Author: rtm223 Posts: 6497

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OMG, that looks amazing! Thanks for posting this. (:

2010-06-18 21:30:00 Author: Mastadom Posts: 195

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