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Custom Emitter for Players

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emit custom cars for a race, custom robots for battling, custom ammo for guns, limitless level play through variations2010-06-16 10:42:00

Author:
TINTED
Posts: 40


There is the creatinator, which is like an emitter gun - the creator chooses the object to be emitted though.

Is your suggestion that the players can choose, because I'm not entirely sure that's a workable system TBH.
2010-06-16 10:45:00

Author:
rtm223
Posts: 6497


That's not what i mean, I mean a tool to let me spawn my race car in your level. or we both spawn robots in a third persons level. spawn my creation in any strangers level.2010-06-17 15:06:00

Author:
TINTED
Posts: 40


that actually sounds like the exact same thing guy...you want to spawn your car in another level so you want the creatinator to let you choose what you want emitted2010-06-17 16:23:00

Author:
Shadowcrazy
Posts: 3365


the creatintor only spawns and looks like what you set it up as in create mode. I'm suggesting an emitter that i can choose any of my creations during gameplay.2010-06-17 18:21:00

Author:
TINTED
Posts: 40


Then couldn't you emit something that would let you cheat through the level?2010-06-17 18:49:00

Author:
Arkei
Posts: 1432


I honestly can't see how you, as a creator, would actually build any useable gameplay around this TBH. This sort of thing is far better off just done with your mates in create mode IMO.2010-06-17 19:07:00

Author:
rtm223
Posts: 6497


I would love to race strangers with 1 of my warp cars in a random popular level2010-06-17 22:22:00

Author:
TINTED
Posts: 40


But how can you race in a level that isn't made for racing, like a level by Morgana, you wouldn't be able to fit a car inside the small rooms she uses. then theres the thermo usage, if a creator uses up all of his or her thermo if you put in a car that uses two notches its going to overheat and probably crash your console. Maybe this would be a fun idea for you but come on, no offense but you just want to race your vehicle in another players awesome level because your probably not very good at visuals.
Rant aside its not a bad idea it just breaks the flow of the game and ruins other peoples creations.
2010-06-18 08:44:00

Author:
robotiod
Posts: 2662


Then couldn't you emit something that would let you cheat through the level?

That's very true. If there was a section in a level where you fall down a hole and were not ment to get back up, you could save a jetpack or grapple hook and get back out, breaking the level.
2010-06-18 11:23:00

Author:
FlipMeister
Posts: 631


it would be a tool, creators would only put them at race starts and other spots needed. the creator would keep safe all the areas he wants to.2010-06-19 06:52:00

Author:
TINTED
Posts: 40


that would be a rather specific tool, nowhere near as flexible as anything else Mm have made.2010-06-19 07:05:00

Author:
robotiod
Posts: 2662


it would be a tool, creators would only put them at race starts and other spots needed. the creator would keep safe all the areas he wants to.

umm....that's what the creatinator is for dude...if you want your car in a racing level...make one and get your own creatinator to spawn your car....but this tool makes no sense at all...and it would break every level made...so yeah sorry man but this aint happening ever....you want to custom emit something? you needa do it on your own level...not on others
2010-06-19 07:59:00

Author:
Shadowcrazy
Posts: 3365


In this way, players could get a score of 10000000 on a level and break the thermo. Even if this powerup were to be put in a level, it's still a bad idea, as the player could simply choose something that takes up so much thermo it crashes the console. I'm sorry, this is just not realistic.2010-06-19 19:11:00

Author:
Richasackboy
Posts: 619


Yup, it's a cheating thing.2010-06-19 19:15:00

Author:
JspOt
Posts: 3607


but creators would take that risk anyway and mm would do plenty to prevent that stuff like the creators restricting what a player can emit, like not being able to emit anything with bubbles. LBP would be better if a levels experiences were infinite and levels that encouraged everyone to build creations for such levels, like me having a race car with TINTED and playstation3homepage.co.cc written on the side.2010-06-21 21:30:00

Author:
TINTED
Posts: 40


You're also not thinking about the thermo, if they can emit ANYTHING, it would effectively have to take up the whole thermo therefore not letting it work in the first place.

/thread
2010-06-21 21:34:00

Author:
Doopz
Posts: 5592


You ain't listening tinted it would :

A. Wreck the thermo
B. Break the level
C. Promote Spammy "Race you're own cars and stuff for free! (with real waterz)
2010-06-21 21:44:00

Author:
Kern
Posts: 5078


This my friends is yet another example of an object someone wants because the person thinks it'd be "cool" to have it and that's it, he's not thinking any of the problems, he just wants it to try out his own ideas he had for it, but its not trying to think beyond that.

M8, think CAREFULLY of what this would do, first off, what if players don't have an item like what its being asked, like what if he has no cars to race or boats or any vehicle?
Think of oh how many ways this could break the level and how careful pcreators who place this have to be careful for any posibilities, which of course cannot be covered as anyone can have anything.

Think of any and all the problems this thing has and you'll see it extremely outweights the benefit, which is you being able to show off your car, which it seems to be the only reason you want this.

Srry dude, but this is definately not a good idea, if you wanna race your friends and show off your car, i'd make a racing level or a gallery leve, a lot faster, easier, and less game breaking.
2010-06-21 21:51:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707


obviously you won't be able to over heat the thermo, you people are asuming that mm would j/ toss it in w/o making it safe. it would greatly improve LBP and I'm sorry if you can't see that. I promise that mm would be as interested in the idea as i am.2010-06-21 22:07:00

Author:
TINTED
Posts: 40


obviously you won't be able to over heat the thermo, you people are asuming that mm would j/ toss it in w/o making it safe. it would greatly improve LBP and I'm sorry if you can't see that. I promise that mm would be as interested in the idea as i am.

I'm sorry but your just ignorant, how would Mm be able to control automatically what goes in and what doesn't? Think about it like this say you emitted something sexually explicit then took pictures and uploaded it, how would Mm be able to prevent you from using that?
2010-06-22 01:01:00

Author:
Kern
Posts: 5078


TINTED i know your idea and propose of it sounds awesome (it is awesome), but don't forget about side-effects, lat say i got object on the level that is key and i can spawn spawn such key that will work also (assuming that we know what magnetic key to use), it allows to break the level, on other situation it may result cheat on score or massive spam with things on level.

As a creator of a level you are the ruler and it's your world and you decide what player can or not on your level in hence of your level experience that people will like or not, allowing player to spawn any object they want would ruin such experience and may annoy other players and creator can't restrict what you can emit since objects are not categorized. Also think about compatibility problems, level would work something and on other not
2010-06-22 02:21:00

Author:
Shadowriver
Posts: 3991


if you ever used the emitter, you'd know it won't let you emit something that will overheat it, obviously an in-game emitter would do the same. it would block a player from emitting something to big. can someone please make sense when trying to down my idea.

it would be a implacable emitter, a creator wouldn't put it in a area that it could be used to cheat. there would also be an option for the creator to only let players emit something for 30 seconds or 1 minute and also an usable area option. that way a person can't emit something and carry it to another part of the level or even out of the area at all.

Two posts merged. -Comph
2010-06-22 02:24:00

Author:
TINTED
Posts: 40


if you ever used the emitter, you'd know it won't let you emit something that will overheat it, obviously an in-game emitter would do the same. it would block a player from emitting something to big. can someone please make sense when trying to down my idea.

Overheating is not the main point, what you can emit is problem.
2010-06-22 02:31:00

Author:
Shadowriver
Posts: 3991


like i said before, there should be options so you can't emit objects with bubbles, bombs, or whatever could be used to change the flow of the story

it's a good argument but the right options can make players not have to worry about it being used against the level instead of for it

like if I wanted players to race custom cars, I would deny and objects with rockets, emitters, or bombs unless that's the kind of race I wanted

Three posts merged. -Comph
2010-06-22 02:40:00

Author:
TINTED
Posts: 40


But I could quite easily create a spinning wheel to launch me out of the level, it would be in your parameters but I'd still be able to break it!2010-06-22 08:50:00

Author:
Kern
Posts: 5078


if the creator doesn't want it, he won't add it to the level. I honestly don't mind if someone decides to mess around their 4th time through my level. plus a ceiling would stop that particular problem.2010-06-22 09:29:00

Author:
TINTED
Posts: 40


I totally understand that you think your idea is the best idea ever but I got one thing to say, you just want to mess about in create mode only with someone elses level, so I say this to you, go ahead and just copy good creators level like half the level spammers on LBP.

Secondly stop double and triple posting, see that little edit button in the right hand corner of your post, please use it, that way we don't have you spamming a pointless thread.

Thirdly, the thing is when people crate levels they don't all have the idea you do that I want people to mess about doing anything in my level, and spawning a car that is white and red, most creators want every single part of their level to be filled with there artistic style and passion.

Now I request that a moderator locks this thread because it is getting too spammy and this argument is not going to be solved. We here at LBPC have gave you multiple reasons why this would not work TINTED, and bar media molecule we know this game better than anybody else, so I'm sorry that your idea cannot and will not ever be put in the game, but you are just like many other people who have suggested game breaking features.
2010-06-22 10:59:00

Author:
robotiod
Posts: 2662


lol, there is no spam in here. and I know every part of LBP better than you you guys and I know what the public wants. it guys like you that talked stuff about my movie idea, compression tool, collapsing buildings, warp speed, and others. you know art, not science, I created all those things in late 08 / early 09 and nobody else created any of it in the 2 years b4 I decided to give it out to promote my site. which is also the only reason I released it, I love LBP but the network of creators has become sour like; the 2 people hogging page 1 by copying old high rated level and keeping people who can actually create off page 1. how about the people who go to the new pages, play and quit to give it 1 star. how about the people who report levels they don't like from second accounts. if you played my levels, you would know my skills and the support I get from the public. so, just be prepared to compete with me in LBP2, because I be there on day 1 and I will be creating things you can't conceive. thank you2010-06-22 19:28:00

Author:
TINTED
Posts: 40


Sorry to say, but the spam has exceeded even the amount that Spice Pork and Ham has. There are a lot of people who will be competing with you, Tinted. 2010-06-22 19:35:00

Author:
Richasackboy
Posts: 619


I know every part of LBP better than you you guys I doubt it.

just be prepared to compete with me in LBP2, because I be there on day 1 and I will be creating things you can't conceive I seriously doubt it.


it guys like you that talked stuff about my movie idea, compression tool, collapsing buildings, warp speed, and others. you know art, not science, I created all those things in late 08 / early 09 and nobody else created any of it in the 2 years b4 I decided to give it out to promote my site. Various people have reproduced some of that, and better than you did. Get over yourself, you're not that amazing. Yes your compression tool is awesome, but that's about it. Hardly the be-al and end all of LBP creation that you claim to be.

Regardless, I wasn't going to lock this thread, but the pros and cons have been prety well covered and after that post there is nowhere it can go from here other than to descend into a flame war, so I'm afraid I'm gonna have to lock it. I shall however, leave your post there as a testament to your arrogance.
2010-06-22 19:45:00

Author:
rtm223
Posts: 6497


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