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Ok, kind of argued with my dad. He claims an friend over the internet is not the same as someone in the real world. Well, physically, yes, but mentally I think no. There are no facial expressions, unless you use webcam, and there is a chance the person you're talking with is someone totally else than he/she said he/she was.
But in most cases, many of them I know on PSN, I know who they are (no, I am not a stalker), as in they have told a little about themselves, and their behaviour proves it.

My dad also says you don't go and tell your feelings over the internet, you've got real life for that. Well, no problem in that, but it's possible doing it online, and to be honest, there are quite a few (if maybe no one) that I actually can do that. Now, some might just be hazardised by my mega-paranoia (hey, is that pencil looking at me?). The only ones I think I can ever confess anything would be my mom and dad.
But also with my girlfriend, who I share a cyber relationship with. We have never met in real life, but we know each other well, and we do not have secrets.

Now, in my street there are not that many people to hang out with, either because of since they have an Xbox 360, which is kind of boring, or they have interests I do not share (football is one of them, and I think I am one of the few boys who does not enjoy it), and the other's are in different classes in school, and might be irritating to me.
I can't wait until I get to go to a high school with people who actually are quiet, and at my level of intelligence. You might have noticed that people who likes football tend to be noisy (No offense), at least here.

I believe you can be best-friends with someone over the internet. And plus, you can get anohter option about where to travel to in the vacation too, along with a free guide.
2010-06-12 19:04:00

Author:
moonwire
Posts: 1627


You just have to be very careful with the internet. It's one very powerful tool that people can use to do some bad things... :/ But there's also a ton of nice, responsible people on it too! :]2010-06-12 19:09:00

Author:
piggabling
Posts: 2979


Some of my favorite people in this world are my PSN friends. I have a job and enjoy my coworkers, the best boyfriend anyone could ask for (jwwphotos), a wonderful family (especially my twin sister), and my PSN friends are some of the most endearing people I've ever met. A few of them I'm sure I'll continue to know throughout my lifetime. 2010-06-12 19:13:00

Author:
TheCountessZ
Posts: 537


Well, It's not the same with friends on "teh internetz" like in real life. With real life friends you can go to the Carnival, go out and eat ice cream () and do other stuff as well that you can't do the same as with "teh internetz" friends. I have had really fun sometimes with my PSN friends and actually laughed out loud in my room sitting and playing LBP. I think your PSN or internet friends is like real friend except all the stuff you can't do as I mentioned before, but in my opinion real life friends is much better sometimes

I'm sorry if I confused anyone and this is just my opinion
2010-06-12 19:16:00

Author:
Alec
Posts: 3871


You just have to be very careful with the internet. It's one very powerful tool that people can use to do some bad things... :/ But there's also a ton of nice, responsible people on it too! :]
Yep look at 4chan its a battleground there

te only difference between talking to someone and talking to someone with internet is
- You cant see the body so you cant judge someone on the looks
- on the internet you can be everybody
- and some other things

But do your Cyber girlfriend Share normal pictures ? (No nude are stuff like thath but normal ones)

Talking to someone is like being Blind
you dont see them but you hear them
so if your blind and talk to your friend 2 meter of you
then he inst your friend beqause you cant see his appearance ?
2010-06-12 19:19:00

Author:
Unknown User


Where is the social dilemma? Through Internet you have much more choice to conect with people but the range of your shared activities will be limited if you can't meet in real life. Every Internet communication will cut short at least two of your senses, that we all experience (here for example) i.e. getting wires crossed easily and ....well our ... let's say, I often feel like: "If i can touch it, it'll be real". No chance for that on the web I guess...2010-06-12 19:31:00

Author:
Xario
Posts: 238


"If i can touch it, it'll be real". No chance for that on the web I guess...
That's pretty smart said sir


It's kinda what I think sometimes.
2010-06-12 19:35:00

Author:
Alec
Posts: 3871


I can't wait until I get to go to a high school with people who actually are quiet, and at my level of intelligence.


ha, I thought that too. Then I arrived and most of the quiet people annoyed me and the louder ones were doing bad things so; out of the saucepan and into the fire
2010-06-12 19:35:00

Author:
flamingemu
Posts: 1872


I'd say it's easier to make friends online because you share similiar interests.2010-06-12 20:02:00

Author:
Kern
Posts: 5078


Well I think if it's just text on the screen you know someone by then it's a little bit restricted and I'm not sure a true friendship can form, only time will tell I guess. But if you communicate through mic or something then it's a bit more real and I think it's feasible.2010-06-12 21:11:00

Author:
OneEyedBanshee
Posts: 1370


@Piggabling:
That's kind of a coincidence, I think most people I have met here are responsible and everything.

@ThecountessZ:
I have got some of my favourite persons on PSN too, They are some of the nicest people I have met. On the family note though, I've got a brother who deserves the 1st price for being irritating. No kidding. I think he's affected by some sort of demon inside. D:

@CrazeAlec:
What about Little Gypsy Circus, by Dajdaj03? That oughta count as a carnival, more or less. Speaking of which, next monday I've got a carnival on school. Oh, joy,

@Mr. Kittykatt:
And some other things, lol. We have seen each other on webcam, and a bunch of other things, and no, no nude (where did that come from?) things.

Xario:
In terms of if I can touch it, then it is real, I go for that holding the PS3 controller is enough

Flamingemu:
...Crossing fingers your school is not the same as mine. Until now, all I have heard of the schools I want to go to are quite the silent places. And no, they are not deserted. Neither some sort of dessert.

@KernelM:
I agree with you, joining a forum for a game you really like, you often find people you share things with. Like LBPC.

@OneEyedBBanshee:
I've created friendship through text (and PS3), me and my girlfriend first met through LBP. And using a mic, it's easier to talk too. Eeeek! Did your avatar eye just move? That's creepy, first time I noticed it I thought I was just seeing things. It's awesome!
2010-06-12 22:40:00

Author:
moonwire
Posts: 1627


@monnwire: So you're not going to experiment with Move or may I dare say Natal when it's available, I take it :-DD2010-06-12 22:53:00

Author:
Xario
Posts: 238


okay whoa whoa whoa hold upppp.

first - is it really easier to make friends online than it is in person? i find it next to impossible. i mean, there are acquaintances, but there's no real connection. ya dig. the friends that will last are the ones that you make in real life. truth.

also, if you're thinking about how you'd like to meet 'people at your level of intelligence'... well... maybe it's not so mysterious as to why it's not as easy to make IRL friends?

sorry but a lot of this is way beyond me... is it really that i'm too old or something? i think your dad is right, there's no real dilemma here. i really do think it's best to try and focus on relationships in real life. those will matter when you have a family and a job. which are not going to involve your ps3. unless the future is a strange place.
2010-06-13 05:36:00

Author:
monstahr
Posts: 1361


It's easy to be introduced to people online and consider them friends but whether they really are what you think or what they say they are could be worlds apart. I'm not saying everyone who claims to have a friendship with someone they met online are deluded and I'm definately not going to assume your relationship with the girl is a false one, as the first girl I ever loved I met online. But ultimately, interactions with people lose a great deal of substance when they aren't face to face. There's a world of difference between someone posting a funny comment and someone types an "LOL" response and someone making an individual genuinely laugh out loud in person for everyone involved.

Though I don't completely agree with him, I can understand where your dad is coming from. I imagine he's worried your ability to socialize in reality will suffer and that idea isn't exactly unfounded; I've heard that sociologists doing research on the current trend of remote socialization have found that people (notably teenagers) who do so regularly are more ackward socially and have a harder time judging the emotions of others. While you theoretically can find people who you can relate to and share interests with easier then you can in person, the fact is that several people craft online personas vastly different then how they act in real life even if they don't realize it and can dramatically change what others would think about them. That's not to say that people aren't duplicious in real life interactions (though it is much easier to lie online then in person), but even if online interaction feels easier and safer that doesn't make it a suitable replacement for it.
2010-06-16 03:58:00

Author:
Dapiek Absaroka
Posts: 512


I agree with monstahr, I feel like the Internet can not hold to true friendships, it's much easier to make and have real life friends then over the internet. And in all honesty I don't believe a relationship can last through the internet, it's just near to impossible. The connection you have to people physically is what separates the differences between the two.

I can't tell you how many times me and my girlfriend have miscommunicated through text, you just can't see sarcasm or any other emotion through text, however when we hang out in real life it's a whole different story, I can tell whether she's upset or happy and all that. It would apply the same with friends.

Sure having friends online is good and all, they can give you a few laughs, tips, and a lot of other positive things. But you have to remember it's the internet, you can be anyone you want to be.

So in my opinion, real life > internet.
2010-06-17 00:17:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250


Speaking of which, my sister just got in huge trouble for driving all the way to Phoenix with her friends to go to the apartment of some guy she met on ChatRoulette. I am not joking.2010-06-17 00:19:00

Author:
Arkei
Posts: 1432


A friend you meet on the internet is not the same as a friend you meet at school, just like how a friend you meet at a party isn't the same as a friend you meet in school. A friend you meet on the internet you met on the internet, while a friend you met at school is a friend you met at school. You met them in two different places, thus making them different. Dilemma solved.2010-06-17 09:45:00

Author:
qrtda235566
Posts: 3664


Hmmm.....interesting Thread.

I can only share some personal expierience. Like Awesomemans wrote before, someone you've met in the internet is not the same
like someone you've met in school.

But i think it is possible to make some real friends.
I've met some really great guys from Pennsylvania in XBox-LIVE.
First we only played together, but if we meet now, we open a Party and just talk about many things.
I really like these crazy guys and we're hoping to meet in Person someday.

So why shouldn't it be possible to make good friends in the World Wide Web?
2010-06-17 13:33:00

Author:
DeKay1980
Posts: 183


@Monstahr:
Well, you never know, as it always depends about who you meet and who you are, along with who they are too. Wether you just know them, or if they are friends is not something you kind of agree with eachother, but when there's a lot of talking about everything, and you both enjoy yourself, I would consider both being friends.

@Dapiek Absaroka:
Well, I am pretty sure my online acting is quite close to my real life acting. Acting as how I react that is, not how I am deceiving everyone to make them believe I have a nuclear weapon in my basement. No. Not at all.

And plus, we have sackboy/girl faces to show emotions. Plus, my face already is limited to sackboy's emotion, I look quite miserable all the time, even though I am not. And reading people's emotion is not all I need. I see both body language and hear their vocal tone.

@Whaaaaale:
Well, differs for everyone. And can you explain me the arrow thing? Real life > Internet.
Does it mean Real life shoots an arrow at Internet to bring it down, or does it mean internet is a crocodile, and is about to eat Real life? Who takes out who?

@Arkei:
Seriously? I have dared myself in to chatroulette before. Don't want to go there again. Maybe along with friends, so we can kid with the others, smosh style, or chat improv guy. The horror, the horror...

@Awesomemans:
I like your view on it best opinion until now.

@DeKay1980:
I say it's possible, but a little different than in real life. It is all possible to connect with somebody over the WWW. I a doing it, you seem to do it too, so it possible for sure!
2010-06-17 17:29:00

Author:
moonwire
Posts: 1627


Internet mates are great, some of my best friends are online only and we've been friends for 7 years, but I've never had much luck with going out for beers with them, or shopping, or for a drive, or on holiday...

If you have no real life friends, you'll be forced to do all of that stuff alone, or even worse, you just wont bother. You'll end up a very lonely couch potato, completely lacking in self confidence, with no one but 'Palmela Handerson' to keep you company.

Your Dad's right, you should listen to him, he just wants you to live life to the fullest.
2010-06-17 18:06:00

Author:
Kiminski
Posts: 545


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