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My Profile won't load after Data transfer to new PS3!! Help! v1.21+

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Hello everyone!



I have the newest patch for LBP and I got a new PS3...

I did the data transfer thing where I use the ethernet cable and it's supposed to transfer EVERYTHING over, even the systems specific non-transferable stuff. So it worked perfectly for everything... until I tried to play LBP. Rockband2 is good, SSF4 is good but when I try to play LBP it tells me to install v1.21 (I already have it and if I cancel the install the patch IS there. I can backup and restore profiles) and it starts a new game. In the gamedata section of my PS3 my profile is there with the correct consume and all of that. I just can't seem to USE it, LBP will start a new game rather than use the profile that is on the HDD.



Also

I still have my old PS3 but because I had bought a 320gig HDD for it I had to transfer the data to the new one, back to the old one with a different HDD and back to the new one with the 320 gig HDD. Effectively erasing my old HDD. So I have a "backup" 40 gig in the OLD PS3 and it's having the same problem. In short, the profiles and LBP data are ON the new AND old PS3 and I am getting the same problem with them both. Meaning I can't access my profiles to back them up. Something that I shouldn't have had to do with the PS3 data transfer.



Please if anyone knows how I can get my profile back... I spent SO much time making levels that where not published yet and I can't access them. The profile is THERE but I can't use it, the PS3 ignores it!!
2010-06-06 00:36:00

Author:
Unknown User


try uninstalling and reinstaling LBP or letting it install the patch rather than canceling it2010-06-06 00:55:00

Author:
Tomeh999
Posts: 763


If you have the LBP save saved somewhere still, I would back-up your old PS3 using the back-up tool. After that finished restore your new PS3 with the back-up. This should restore everything instead of just transferring.2010-06-06 01:27:00

Author:
tanrockstan34
Posts: 1076


Yeah, try using the in-game back-up/ Data recovery mothods.

Or do you not have a flashdrive perhaps?
2010-06-06 02:28:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707


Hi MPTDHP.

I recently moved my profile to a new Slim PS3, but I did not use the Ethernet option. I moved it to the new system on a memory stick. Based on what you've said , it sounds like the Profile Backup was done properly, as it shows up. If this is the case, the "First" procedure I have provided below should work. If the "First" procedure does not work, then you will need to perform the second procedure I have provided below. If you continue to have problems, please send me a message on my LBPC Profile page.

First Procedure
1. Start LBP on your new PS3
2. Once in your Pod, select the <START> button on your controller, then <Settings> <Profile Settings> <Import Profile>.
3. Select the Profile you wish to import (it should be the profile with the most recent date) and follow the prompts.

Second Procedure
1. Make sure both systems have the same patch version installed
2. On the old system, Insert your USB memory stick and then start LBP
3. Once in your Pod, select the <START> button on your controller, then <Settings> <Profile Settings> <Backup Profile>.
4. If you have previously backed up a Profile, it will be shown on the screen, and should have the same name as the PS3 account name you are logged in under. There will also be a date below the name, which indicates the date the profile was last backed up.
5. Select the profile and answer "Yes" to "Do you want to overwrite the saved data?" and follow the prompts
6. Once the backup is completed, exit out and then quit the game
7. On the PS3 Main screen, go to the Game menu and select <Saved Data Utility (PS3)>. You will see a listing of all the profiles you have backed up. Select the LBP profile you just backed up--the date should match the date you backed it up, which would be today if you backed it up today using this procedure.
8. Select <Copy>, and then select the USB Memory Stick as the destination and wait for the copy to finish
9. On the new system, insert your USB Memory Stick and copy the backup profile to <Game> <Saved Data Utility (PS3)>
10. Once the copy is completed, remove the USB Memory Stick and start LBP
11. Once in your Pod, select the <START> button on your controller, then <Settings> <Profile Settings> <Import Profile>.
12. Select the Profile you wish to import (it should be the profile with the most recent date) and follow the prompts.

I'm providing most of this information from my memory, so I may have missed a small detail, but I do recall it was fairly intuitive.

If you want your DLC to show up as well, you will need to do the following after you have imported your profile...
1. On your old PS3 select <PSN> <Account Manager> <System Activation> and deactivate the system, then log off of PSN
2. On your new PS3 select <PSN> <Account Management> <System Activation> and activate the system to obtain the DLC. After I completed this step, I found that not all the DLC was available, so I went to PSN Store and located all the content I had purchased and reinstalled those that were missing.

I hope this has been helpful.

Rick
2010-06-06 03:22:00

Author:
RickRock_777
Posts: 1567


I did the data transfer thing where I use the ethernet cable and it's supposed to transfer EVERYTHING over, even the systems specific non-transferable stuff. So it worked perfectly for everything... until I tried to play LBP.

There's a note about LBP in the manual for the Data Transfer Utility (http://manuals.playstation.net/document/en/ps3/3_15/settings/transferutility.html), although it's easily missed...


Back up your profile information and stages you created in LittleBigPlanet? to your saved game. You can then use the data that was backed up when playing LittleBigPlanet? on the destination PS3? system.

...which basically means it will copy the LBP profile data, but it won't work on the target PS3. You have to backup your LBP profile using the in-game profile backup option before you do the transfer, and then restore from that backup on the target system after you've finished the transfer.

Unfortunately it sounds as if you've made the profile unreadable on the old system too, so unless you have a profile backup in the Save Data area, you're not going to be able to restore your profile.
2010-06-06 11:54:00

Author:
Aya042
Posts: 2870


There's a note about LBP in the manual for the Data Transfer Utility (http://manuals.playstation.net/document/en/ps3/3_15/settings/transferutility.html), although it's easily missed...



...which basically means it will copy the LBP profile data, but it won't work on the target PS3. You have to backup your LBP profile using the in-game profile backup option before you do the transfer, and then restore from that backup on the target system after you've finished the transfer.

Unfortunately it sounds as if you've made the profile unreadable on the old system too, so unless you have a profile backup in the Save Data area, you're not going to be able to restore your profile.


Yeah that's kinda what happened. I didn't back it up because from what I read everything should have transfered with no problem. And of course everything did except for LBP. The thing that gets me is that under 'Game Data Utility" my profiles are there with the correct name, "MasterPain", but even through I am logged in as MasterPain LBP won't use that profile. It will make a new profile named "MasterPain". The thing that's killing me is that on my old ps3 it's doing the same thing. It's the same console with the same data but since I had to ping pong the data transfer it's not working.


TomeH 999,

This is a good suggestion and I tried it. It doesn't work. Everything happens the same way. I have the profiles under game data, not gave save- it just starts a new game.


Silverleon,

I have a flash drive but I can not get into my profile in LBP to back it up any more. Both PS3s are doing the same thing to me. It just starts a new game rather than load my profile.
2010-06-06 14:21:00

Author:
Unknown User


I didn't back it up because from what I read everything should have transfered with no problem.

Not sure where you read that, but it's not true. There are many types of content which are impossible to transfer between two PS3s, it's just unfortunate that LBP profiles fall into this category.

I'm a little confused. You said you bought a new PS3, but also upgraded the old one's HDD from a 40GB to a 320GB, and that you'd transferred the data from the 40GB to the 320GB disk, so surely the original data is still on the 40GB disk?
2010-06-06 15:23:00

Author:
Aya042
Posts: 2870


Not sure where you read that, but it's not true. There are many types of content which are impossible to transfer between two PS3s, it's just unfortunate that LBP profiles fall into this category.

I'm a little confused. You said you bought a new PS3, but also upgraded the old one's HDD from a 40GB to a 320GB, and that you'd transferred the data from the 40GB to the 320GB disk, so surely the original data is still on the 40GB disk?

Well this is how it went. I had a 40 gig PS3 with LBP and beat the game and so forth. I bought a 320 gig for that fat PS3 and did the whole drive back up thing. I lost a lot of data because some things are PS3 specific, like SF4 and Rock Band. SO I d/l everything again and replayed those games. My wife's profile didn't survive the trasfer from the 40 to the 320 because I got that error that corrupts the backup of your HDD.
So I what happened was I had the 40 gig fat ps3 and backed everything up to the new 320 gig (fat32 formatted as an external HDD) because thumb drives aren't big enough. I moved the PS3g back up file (that was on the 320 gig as a fat32 external) to my desk top. I then installed the 320 gig to my fat ps3 (formally 40 gig). The 320 gig was then formatted by my ps3. I then formatted my 40 gig to a fat32 external so I could move the PS3 backup file off my desk top. I then restored the system. Then I got the 800283E4 error. Only a small fraction of my data was recoverable (it took me 12+ hours of backing up and restoring TWICE with the same error). I couldn't make a new back up because I had formatted my 40 gig for fat32 to make it an external so I could transfer the ps3 back up file from my desk top, since like I said, thumb drives aren't big enough to put a back up of the 40 gig on them. So my data was gone forever. Fine. I replayed everything including LBP for my wife so she could have all the stickers and costume bits. The, of course, I had to d/l everything off the PSN again.
Fast forward to two weeks ago. My fat PS3 got the Yellow Light of Death. So there goes ALL my data and EVERYTHING, not to mention my new Red Dead Redemption disc. Or so I thought. I read how to fix it with a heat gun. I fixed it. It lasted two days. So I fixed it again and bought a NEW PS3, a slim. So now I have my 40 gig as an external, my 320 in my dieing fat PS3 and a 120 gig in the NEW machine. I didn't want to waste the 320 in a dieing PS3 here's what I did. I learned how to fix my fat PS3 with a heat gun properly from someone who knew what they were doing (gilksy was ALMOST there but didn't seen to understand why or how to re-flow properly). I PROPERLY re-flowed the entire motherboard (I think the solder was going bad near the fan connector). I then used the ethernet data transfer from my fat PS3 with the 320 gig to the 120 gig in the new slim. The on console instructions said EVERYTHING will transfer, even PS3 system specific saves, like SF4 and Rockband. I read a little in the instructions about it and, again, it said that everything will transfer. Of course I didn't read about it online since the LBP 1.21 patch came out. I used a flash drive to back up everything I could, but, of course the LBP save data is in GAME DATA and thus not copyable. It didn't occur to me at the time to boot up LBP and back stuff within the game since I was very concerned about other games that are system specific and I was scared that my old PS3 would crap out before I could transfer all the data.
Okay. So with my usb full of all the saves and three HDDs I started the transfer. This ethernet cable data transfer was the only way I knew to keep all my other system specific saves so... I DT (data transfered) all the data from my fat 320 gig to my slim 120. Then took out the 320 from the fat and put the original 40 gig back in. I then DT from the 120 slim to the 40 fat. Then put the 320 gig in my slim. Then DT off the 40 fat to the 320 slim. I booted everything up and activated the new system with the 320 gig and everything looked just fine. Rockband worked perfectly, and SF4 worked perfectly. Red Dead Redemption worked perfectly I thought I was good to go. I booted up LBP yesterday to finish one of my levels I've been working on for over a year and it starts a new game. I looked at the profiles and gamedata and everything was there with a picture of my sackboy wearing the right costume and all of that and the slim wouldn't load the profile - just a new game. I booted up my old fat PS3 and same thing. I try loading up LBP and it starts a new game; Steven Fry introducing me to my sackboy in that intro level. The drive where I have my profile working was formatted and had all the data DT back to it because of the HDD/PS3 encryption. So here I sit. To add insult to injury my fat ps3 has been working perfectly ever since I re-flowed it to make the data transfer so I wasted $300 to lose all my LBP data.

Now you all know my atrocious luck with my PS3s and Little Big Planet. I've played through the game 5 times now collecting ALL the outfits and stickers and tools INCLUDING the 4x player stuff and ACING the Fricking Wilderness and, most notably, the BUNKER. I even got hit by the save file being too big to save and corrupting so that I lose data. After the 1.21 patch came out I thought, "YAY, I'll NEVER have to do that again!" Every problem that could happen to me regarding Little Big Planet has happened.
2010-06-06 16:21:00

Author:
Unknown User


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Okay, you're pretty much screwed unless at any point since Leerdammer was released (about 6 months ago), you backed up your profile from Game Data into Save Data via the LBP in-game Profile Backup option, and didn't subsequently delete that backup... OR... if you happened to have had the game prior to Leerdammer, and had an active profile prior to upgrading.

In either of those cases you'll still have a profile in the Save Data area which you can re-import from, albeit perhaps slightly out of date.

To put it simply, if you start LBP, press Start, Settings, Profile Settings, Import Profile, and there's anything in there which it will let you import from, then do that.

If not, did you at any point copy your profile (pre-Leerdammer) or a profile backup (post-Leerdammer) to an external USB device, and still have a copy?

If so, you can copy it back into the Save Data area, then reimport as above.

If not, then there's not really much you can do unfortunately. :/
2010-06-06 16:51:00

Author:
Aya042
Posts: 2870


Yes the best I can manage is getting everything back to right before 1.21Leerdammer. Which gives me 100% game + MGS pack but I'll have to redo the PotC pack and re d/l all my costumes I bought. But the stuff that really matters to me are my custom costumes, my unpublished levels, access to my published levels and my creations I made. I spent weeks on each of my creations. Making them look fantastic, realistic and completely functional. It's like if rz22g lost his LittleBigTank right before he first published it.



If only there were a way to extract a save file form the game data profile without loading up LBP... or loading another's profile from within LBP, over-writing the current one. With out an actual save file I can't do those things.
2010-06-06 17:13:00

Author:
Unknown User


Yes the best I can manage is getting everything back to right before 1.21Leerdammer. Which gives me 100% game + MGS pack but I'll have to redo the PotC pack and re d/l all my costumes I bought.

Kinda in the same boat myself. My PS3 fat recently YLOD'd, and the only backup I had to restore on my new PS3 slim was from the days of Leerdammer. I'm still hoping to do the whole reflow thing and get it all back, but haven't gotten around to it yet.



But the stuff that really matters to me are my custom costumes, my unpublished levels, access to my published levels and my creations I made.

Well, you should still be able to copy your published levels back onto your PS3, but anything else is pretty much lost, unless you fancy cracking the PS3's encryption system.



If only there were a way to extract a save file form the game data profile without loading up LBP... or loading another's profile from within LBP, over-writing the current one. With out an actual save file I can't do those things.

I mean you could try either of Sony/MM customer services, but I doubt you'll get anything useful from them.
2010-06-06 18:19:00

Author:
Aya042
Posts: 2870


Yes, unless you created a profile backup recently, you are hosed. For future reference for you and anyone reading this thread who may be contemplating moving their data to another PS3, the following will be useful information, as well as the detailed procedure I mentioned previously.

Your comment, "I used a flash drive to back up everything I could, but, of course the LBP save data is in GAME DATA and thus not copyable." is not quite correct.

Actually, had you performed a profile backup, the data you needed would have been under the <Game> <Saved Data Utility (PS3)> menu. The <Game> <Game Data Utility> became obsolete for this purpose in a previous patch. Also, these save files are in fact copyable, as follows...

1. Log in to the PS3 as the account name you want to copy a profile from
2. Scroll over to <Game> and select <Saved Data Utility (PS3)>
3. You will then see every saved profile for every game you have played on your system that you performed a save in
4. If you performed a LBP Profile backup, you will see it here, as well as the original LBP profile that was created the first time LBP was played under that account. These profiles will look something like this...

A.
LittleBigPlanet Profile Backup (this will be the most recently backed-up profile)
Date, Time and file size
Name of Account (the account you are logged in as)
Info regarding the profile--i.e. Story Levels completed, number of trophies obtained, and number of levels created on My Moon

B.
LittleBigPlanet (this is the original profile created when LBP was first played)
Date, Time and file size
Profile Data

5. Select the most recently saved profile (which would be "A" above), select the triangle button on your controller to go to the Options menu, select Copy, and then select your USB Memory Stick as the destination.
6. When completed, take the USB Memory Stick to the other PS3 and copy the profile file to it. The profile can then be imported to LBP as mentioned above in the "Second Procedure" in my first post in this thread.


Rick
2010-06-06 19:40:00

Author:
RickRock_777
Posts: 1567


Kinda in the same boat myself. My PS3 fat recently YLOD'd, and the only backup I had to restore on my new PS3 slim was from the days of Leerdammer. I'm still hoping to do the whole reflow thing and get it all back, but haven't gotten around to it yet.




Well, you should still be able to copy your published levels back onto your PS3, but anything else is pretty much lost, unless you fancy cracking the PS3's encryption system.




I mean you could try either of Sony/MM customer services, but I doubt you'll get anything useful from them.

Oh well some tips for re-flowing:

Keep the mother board flat.
Get a heat gun that blasts 300 degrees +. I got one for about $30 and it has two settings, high and low. Use low.
Keep the gun moving and "paint" the whole board. The whole thing. Then concentrate on the CPU and the GPU for about 2 minutes each. The solder should be shiny. Never flip the board. There is no reason to do the back because the heat will transfer from the other side, the metal conducts heat just like electricity. Heat should be on the board for about 9-10 minutes. Basically you want to melt all of the solder on the board so it connects the whole thing.
The reason to re-flow is somewhere the solder isn't touching something it should anymore. This is due to overheating or abuse or just use. So you might have a dry socket, or a crack in the solder or a loose wire. If you melt all the solder the gap will be breached.
Also, I have a PS3 that is slightly different from the others you see in all the tutorials. Mine doesn't disassemble like the others. After I get everything apart the mother board is attached to the aluminum casing with the heat synchs and the fan by only the heat conductive paste. So after I got ALL the screws out I had to slowly pry the two apart. It was scary as all get out but it worked.
Also before you re-flow remove all of the heat conductive paste AND the clock battery. You might pop it and leak acid on your board. People say let the board cool for 15 minutes after you re flow. I did 20. I didn't want to chance ruining my board.

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2010-06-06 20:59:00

Author:
Unknown User


I don't know if its too late for you but i just had a similar experience although i did not have near as much data to lose.

I found that the profiles do indeed transfer when you use the data transfer utility, but the game will not play them untill you import them within the game. All i had to do is play through the intro level to get into the pod, and use the profile import utility in the settings. The game found my old profile on the HD and imported it.
2010-08-21 19:18:00

Author:
thianeth
Posts: 1


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