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Social dilemma?

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Some time ago I discussed with my friends about gaming online and being with friends...

I meant (and still mean) that playing LBP, online, with 1, 2 or 3 other players, using a mic or keypad, having a jolly time playing levels, occasionally slapping each other into deadly gas and talking/texting is just as social as being with 1, 2 or 3 others in real life. Now, it's a bit different, but they are both social, all the same.

They said it was not social, because I would be playing with strangers. Then they said that if they were in in a party (note, none of them plays LBP, they're bunch of MW2ers and Xbox360 persons) and being in a party with each other, having a mic that would still be social, while playing with "strangers" and using mics would not be like that.

You would support me in this, would you?
2010-05-22 11:46:00

Author:
moonwire
Posts: 1627


Both are "social". You can be sociable with strangers (IRL as well). Typically friends of friends are the strangers who you might socialise with with in the real world, however you can still be social with complete randomers.

I wouldn't count it as being the same as in IRL though, but that's just me. Saying that though, I occasionally drop into OC just to chat with people who I've never met IRL (at least not yet ). At that point I'd say these people are a long way from being strangers.


More to the point... does it matter?
2010-05-22 11:55:00

Author:
rtm223
Posts: 6497


I dunno, I'd probably go with your friends. I enjoy playing with friends a lot more than internet 'strangers' because I'm more comfortable around them, and I just have, like, context. We know each other, what we like, what we don't like, what kinds of things to avoid saying, whatever. Playing with strangers is kind of awkward and much less fulfilling for me.

Then again, neither compares to playing with three friends on the couch.

Plus, my keyboard's broken, so if I'm playing with someone I know, I can FB chat/AIM them alongside playing for ease of communication.
2010-05-22 14:06:00

Author:
monstahr
Posts: 1361


Were your real life friends not strangers until you started socilising with them? How else would they have become friends. Or am I talking gobledegook!

Icey
2010-05-22 14:43:00

Author:
IceMaiden
Posts: 1057


Hmm this is a bit off topic but i will say this

Im not being a stupid fanboy but all my friends have Xbox360 and we can all be in a group (Party) Chat and talking to eachother and we can all be playing a different game. This was fun and if one of us was playing a online game and they were playing with a person they did not know IRL they could invite that person to the party chat to and we would all be talking together. But now with MW2 on xbox360 whenever you go into any mode (Except for a select few Free for all, Ground War, 3rd person) it makes you go into game chat so you can not remain in the party/group chat. Which has made me mad.

Yeah Im not sure how close i am to this but thats just somthing i had to say
2010-05-22 17:26:00

Author:
Snrm
Posts: 6419


Were your real life friends not strangers until you started socilising with them? How else would they have become friends. Or am I talking gobledegook!

Icey

There is a marked difference between socializing in a virtual world and socializing in the real world, in my opinion.. there is an extra layer of familiarity offered by physically hanging out with a new friend. Body language, facial expressions, tone of voice, are not very often translatable over online games.
2010-05-22 18:43:00

Author:
monstahr
Posts: 1361


There is a marked difference between socializing in a virtual world and socializing in the real world, in my opinion.. there is an extra layer of familiarity offered by physically hanging out with a new friend. Body language, facial expressions, tone of voice, are not very often translatable over online games.

I agree to a certain extent, but we must not forget that the people we play online with are real people. The fact that we can choose who we play with online must surely mean that, even without the added benefits of body language, facial expressions and tone of voice, the rappor must be present or we wouldn't be playing with them anyway.

Icey
2010-05-22 19:20:00

Author:
IceMaiden
Posts: 1057


I'm not sure if I understand exactly what you?re saying but from what I do understand this is my response:

In real life you can only socilize with a select amount of people I.E. People in your school/Workplace/Neighborhood/Country/Group. In video games you can socialize with anyone in the world at any time. Also in little big planet nobody forces you to play with strangers. If you have real life friends who have LBP than there not strangers. I admit sometimes it can be good to be face to face with people but the point I?m making is that little big planet is as social as games like modern warfare 2 and halo 3. But not as
2010-05-22 20:16:00

Author:
Junkyardassissan
Posts: 164


I have made one of the best and lovliest friends I have ever had, through this game and forum 2010-05-22 20:29:00

Author:
mrsvista
Posts: 755


I have made one of the best and lovliest friends I have ever had, through this game and forum

I have also made one of the best and loveliest friends I have ever met or could ever wish to meet as a result of being involved with LBP and LBPC and I can honestly say that had I not been involved with either we would not have met and that would have been a traversty.

This would explain why I have the opinion that online friends can be just as important as real life ones, it just depends on your values really. Oh, and who you are lucky enough to meet.

Icey
2010-05-22 20:42:00

Author:
IceMaiden
Posts: 1057


This would explain why I have the opinion that online friends can be just as important as real life ones, it just depends on your values really. Oh, and who you are lucky enough to meet.

Icey
I totally agree with this, one of my best friends lives in Scotland (I live on the South coast - Couldn't be further apart!), we've never met, but have been gaming together for about 7 years.
2010-05-22 20:56:00

Author:
Kiminski
Posts: 545


I totally agree with this, one of my best friends lives in Scotland (I live on the South coast - Couldn't be further apart!), we've never met, but have been gaming together for about 7 years.

Yup i have a friend on xbox that i have known for 2 years he lives in Texas but he has to be one of the funniest people i have ever talked to in my life!! I couldnt imagine how funny he would be in person!
2010-05-22 22:57:00

Author:
Snrm
Posts: 6419


LBP is great for socializing you get all the facial expressions and funny stuff to do while you chat. Talking to people IRL is fun too but...its not AS fun. IRL you stand (or sit) around and discussing the few interesting things you have in common but in LBP we all share opinions, ideas, and knowledge of LBP and can have good conversations while playing a level and have a couple of laughs. I don't see how your friends would call FPS with a mic socializing. Theres hardly any interaction except (zomg you got us killed) or (zomg i killed that guy). Sometimes i find so called "strangers" to be more relate-able than my real friends. Not always the case, what was i talking about....oh yea, playing a game like LBP IS socializing 2010-05-22 23:20:00

Author:
Littlebigdude805
Posts: 1924


Just wondering, what's IRL? Never heard of it in my whole life, before now.

And thank you btw, most, if not all, have cheered me up, I have been bothered by all those thoughts until now. My friends also argued against I could not be so social if I played with people I ad got to know through playing with them (but not in real life). Though, what one thing I enjoy the most is playing with others on LBP which I know from this Forum. Nothing funnier playing with Joey, GreyMRP, KernelM or Morgana25. Fun all the time, until someone needs some shut-eyes (which happens surprisingly a lot with some persons).

And IceMaiden,
thank you for your gobledegook!
2010-05-23 14:02:00

Author:
moonwire
Posts: 1627


moonwire IRL stands for "In Real Life"2010-05-23 23:15:00

Author:
Snrm
Posts: 6419


I can only agree with you.2010-05-23 23:18:00

Author:
JspOt
Posts: 3607


Ah, the stranger bit is complexing. Well lets see, shouldn't there not be a bad, awkward feeling when talking to strangers? Only if bad things are said. Yes, you defiantly feel much more comfortable with friends but, would it really matter if they we're nice? I know i used to have friends that could have been better as strangers, you shouldn't have to feel bad talking to people you don't know so well, and if your friends think its wrong, and argue that, maybe they shouldn't be your friends2010-05-23 23:37:00

Author:
Maxi
Posts: 1176


Well, believe me, I've made some cool friends through this here internet, even extending into facebook connections. I still know next to nothing about them. Online, you can pretend to be anyone. You have a chance to pick your words carefully and such. I guess I'm in the minority when I say that I value 'IRL' friends over videogame ones.. but it's true. We've gone through rough times and everything and I just feel that bond infinitely greater than one to a sackboy.

I've been befriending a lot of strangers lately, in anticipation of college next year, but I really can't know if we'll enjoy each other's company until I actually get there for orientation.

I really didn't think I'd be alone on this, haha.
2010-05-24 11:36:00

Author:
monstahr
Posts: 1361


@Snrm:
Aha, ok thank you. I did not even know such a thing as real life existed,
2010-05-24 16:21:00

Author:
moonwire
Posts: 1627


WTH?! Of course it's socializing!!! They're not strangers!!! they are lucky LBP owners2010-05-24 21:22:00

Author:
ExplosiveCheddar
Posts: 978


Heh, if people say you can socialize with others being in facebook/ tweeter, then i don't see wht its any different on games, actually its even more so as you're not only writting, but playing with them. 2010-05-24 22:04:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707


You chat, play, know etc
Ive made some really close lovely friends on lbp and central. They are all true friends even though we haven't met
2010-05-24 22:08:00

Author:
Fenderjt
Posts: 1969


That does not make any sence at all lolz2010-05-24 22:35:00

Author:
Unknown User


Heh, if people say you can socialize with others being in facebook/ tweeter, then i don't see wht its any different on games, actually its even more so as you're not only writting, but playing with them.
I think being on Facebook or Twitter is mostly staying in contact with people you DO know in person - at least it is for me.. meeting people by way of social networking would be kind of odd.
2010-05-24 22:36:00

Author:
monstahr
Posts: 1361


i agree with you2010-05-24 22:57:00

Author:
Unknown User


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