Archive: 23 posts

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Earlier today, I had a thought. (Don't worry. It didn't affect my Geography work much...) What if LBP2 had a level/rank up system? As in, as people play and like your levels, you rank up, and you could search for levels from the same rank as you. It could work like this... At first, you're a newbie. Once enough people "thumbs up" you, you go up a rank. High ranked people have more say in what goes on in the Cool Levels pages, and they can make people change ranks easier. (Up or down.) Maybe there could be search settings to find levels by people with the same rank as you, so you could easily find people with similar skill levels to trade tips and create with. In order to make sure level spammers don't become high ranks, fair high ranks can lower their ranks with "thumbs down", and to be sure good creators are at appropriate ranks, popular creators from LBP1 are automatically 5 ranks or so higher than everyone else at the start. In my opinion, I think this would help combat the bad levels problem, and also give the players more freedom, if they deserve it. I think it would be helpful. As long as there aren't trophies for ranking up. Any opinions? Don't flame meh!

2010-05-20 22:29:00 Author: KlawwTheClown Posts: 1106

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It sounds more like reputation system then rank system, but good idea! (just wrong name )

2010-05-20 22:33:00 Author: Shadowriver Posts: 3991

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it is a good idea i think it should be on hearts not thumbs up and also people controlling the cool pages will be a detonate no no because some one might be a lower rank but with great skills in making level but because his rank is low he/she wont be able to show off there level and wont get many plays .BOUNTY.

2010-05-20 22:35:00 Author: howMUCHforBOUNTY Posts: 623

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NOO! Worst possible thing. -What we have now H4H, X-survival challenge, Level that plays itself again yet again #84 have hundreads of thousands of harts folowed bby a similar amount of hearts, while actual creators with effort made levels have a few thousands of plays with even less hearts... Bow in that system, who do you think is more likely to rank top first and who'd stay below? Besides, you know how much more spam we'd have to give players Thubms up or whatever?! It'll probably start Tu4Tu or something. -Your "How to make it fair" would just make it 10X worse as giving high ranks powere on the COol Pages = Giving H4Hers a chance to rank up and eliminate anything else, also giving idiots out there the ability to rank down good creators. I mean if people already good grief and tmake people feel like crap for jealousy and such (Defmunky666 for example) a lot of them could group up and completly ruin someone's rep and rank. Sorry m8, but ranks is never a good thing in this kind of games.

2010-05-20 23:03:00 Author: Silverleon Posts: 6707

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NOO! Worst possible thing. -What we have now H4H, X-survival challenge, Level that plays itself again yet again #84 have hundreads of thousands of harts folowed bby a similar amount of hearts, while actual creators with effort made levels have a few thousands of plays with even less hearts... Bow in that system, who do you think is more likely to rank top first and who'd stay below? Besides, you know how much more spam we'd have to give players Thubms up or whatever?! It'll probably start Tu4Tu or something. -Your "How to make it fair" would just make it 10X worse as giving high ranks powere on the COol Pages = Giving H4Hers a chance to rank up and eliminate anything else, also giving idiots out there the ability to rank down good creators. I mean if people already good grief and tmake people feel like crap for jealousy and such (Defmunky666 for example) a lot of them could group up and completly ruin someone's rep and rank. Sorry m8, but ranks is never a good thing in this kind of games. Exactly what I was gonna say.

2010-05-21 00:50:00 Author: nitewalker11 Posts: 222

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My Idea: Pretty simple solution I think, but It may help. Simply give us more stats about a level, besides Stars hearts and plays.. Like for instance, a creation clock, so that you can see exactly how much time was put into each level you play. and to balance that (and prevent people from leaving a blank level in create mode for days, and having it look like they put hundreds of hours of work into it) they could show us technical stuff, like thermometer load, how many corners are present in the level, or.. umm you know anything like that. I don't know really, (how about short video previews when selecting a level) I'm really not sure, just a few Ideas. I hope they fix the system that is in place now, but im sure whatever they come up with won't be perfect, and people will still exploit the hell out of it.

2010-05-21 00:56:00 Author: Madafaku Posts: 738

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Personally, I wouldn't mind if hearts and any other sort of ranking thing were just dropped completely. I use hearts as bookmarks: no matter how well crafted a level is, what new tricks it uses, or whatever else, if I'm not planning on playing it again, I don't heart it. Any sort of ranking in online games is a bad thing. I used to play Splinter Cell online on Xbox and I would always set up unranked games 'cuz they were more fun. Sure it got competitive, but people were pretty much always pretty chill about it. Then I played Halo 2 where you pretty much had no choice but to play ranked games and it was full of jerks and people with no sense of fair play or sportmanship. I did alright and it was fun sometimes, but it just wasn't as much fun. I never played H3, but I heard it got even worse with people screwing over their teammates so they could get trophies. And in lbp, we have a system that reports how many plays and hearts a level has gotten and look what that's done for us. And really, what's the point of a ranking system? Bragging rights? Who are you going to brag to? I mean, who besides you really cares how many hearts your levels have gotten? The whole status thing is part of why you get people who refuse to share their "trade secrets." That's not good for a community based game: if we share our knowledge it (hopefully) leads to everybody making better levels and consequently there are better levels for everybody to play (I love figuring out people's secrets and spilling the beans just for this reason). I'm starting to wander off topic. Anyway, I think any sort of ranking system is a bad idea.

2010-05-21 02:22:00 Author: Sehven Posts: 2188

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you probably couldn't be more right Seheven.. (however my experience with Halo 3 was pretty limited, Still haven't gotten around to owning a 360.. project natal?? maybe) But it would be nice if there was a way to select the levels YOU would like to play... BRAINSTORM: what if there was a system kind of like Netflix, where you play the levels and rank them, your ranking doesn't really affect the overall ranking of the level much... (you give it one star, to you it will always have one star) but based on the levels you like, compared with lets say other people who like that level... it will sugest to you other levels they may like. I'm not sure if I'm explaining this correctly, but if you've been on netflix you probably know what I mean... "based on your previous selections, we suggest these levels" maybe then we can find the levels we want to play, and hearts stars plays and everything will be pointless.

2010-05-21 03:18:00 Author: Madafaku Posts: 738

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If it's done right, that could work. I once messed with some sort of internet radio station (I think it was on Yahoo) where you'd select songs you liked and it was supposed to stream a plethora of songs that you were likely to enjoy based on what you had said you liked. I messed with it for a few days trying to give it as comprehensive a list of my taste in music as possible and it still kept playing wierd crappy songs I'd never heard of (I was hoping it would play wierd good songs I'd never heard of). I finally gave up on it. My point is that that kind of thing might be possible, but it's easy to get wrong. Ultimately, I don't think there's ever going to be an easy way to find levels you like. I'm pretty happy with the way it works now, actually. I find levels I wanna' play based on word of mouth, checking the forums here and elsewhere, and occasionally rifling through other respected creator's hearted levels.

2010-05-21 08:15:00 Author: Sehven Posts: 2188

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Gawd no (the points that Silverleon made will possibly come true..) Like Sehven said if its done right it might become a really good system but i doubt it......

2010-05-21 08:51:00 Author: rseah Posts: 2701

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LBP is not Halo 3 or MW2. We don't need ranks, the game shouldn't be a competition, it's not a game where "I'm a better creator because I got more plays and hearts than you!"..just look at the cool pages...I rest my case.

2010-05-21 11:04:00 Author: FuzzballFox Posts: 217

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Just as Silverleon,Sehven and FuzzballFox said. It's a terrible idea and would only make an already horrendous situation on so called 'cool levels' much worse. I certainly don't want the morons who are spamming on there right now being ranked higher than me when I make 100% better levels than them. It should be scrapped completely. Thankfully it looks like finding good levels is going to work much better in LBP2. I'm just hoping they get rid of those 'cool levels' pages altogether for LBP2 because they are as far away from 'cool' as it's possible to get.

2010-05-21 11:19:00 Author: mistervista Posts: 2210

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What about people like me? Last time I checked I think I had 4 hearts, actually that's pretty good considering I haven't published anything But seriously with the suggested system I would be classed as the lowest rank, which I don't really see as fair. Sure I'm not the best creator around but I consider myself prettyy darn good, even if I do say so myself.

2010-05-21 12:27:00 Author: SR20DETDOG Posts: 2431

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It wouldn't work. The system doesn't take into consideration those who plaly but not create (whaaaa?!?). Please no. No. NO. H4Hs will open a Thumbs^ 4 Thumbs^. Then they will take over. Isn't the hearts addiction just a cause of wanting our levels to be liked and played?

2010-05-24 18:14:00 Author: Unknown User

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Anything that gives the player the feeling of power, will be craved by the majority of players which results in...you guessed it, "LBPS FISRT ARCADE RACEOR", this will be the new nightmare that will haunt 'Cool Pages'. So, having this ranking system will make people feel powerful if they are high-ranked and if they are low-ranked they will spam "LBPS FISRT ARCADE RACEOR". So, sorry, but this isn't a very good idea.

2010-05-24 19:10:00 Author: Curtis Posts: 21

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It wouldn't work. The system doesn't take into consideration those who plaly but not create (whaaaa?!?). Please no. No. NO. H4Hs will open a Thumbs^ 4 Thumbs^. Then they will take over. Isn't the hearts addiction just a cause of wanting our levels to be liked and played? Nah, I'd assume it's for the create trophy. At least that's what all the H4Hers I've met do it for... Anyway, Yeah, I probably shouldn't have even posted this. It was so early in the morning, and I was so tired, I didn't think of any of that stuff. Although, I hope there's some sort of option that pairs you up to people who are similar to you... (As in, make levels that follow the same themes or something.) And I'd love to be able to have all spammers automatically deleted from level comments. (Or have a mark as spam button that anyone can use, and that user's comments get deleted or looked at or something...) Meh, sorry 'fer the useless post.

2010-05-24 19:19:00 Author: KlawwTheClown Posts: 1106

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NOO! Worst possible thing. -What we have now H4H, X-survival challenge, Level that plays itself again yet again #84 have hundreads of thousands of harts folowed bby a similar amount of hearts, while actual creators with effort made levels have a few thousands of plays with even less hearts... Bow in that system, who do you think is more likely to rank top first and who'd stay below? Besides, you know how much more spam we'd have to give players Thubms up or whatever?! It'll probably start Tu4Tu or something. -Your "How to make it fair" would just make it 10X worse as giving high ranks powere on the COol Pages = Giving H4Hers a chance to rank up and eliminate anything else, also giving idiots out there the ability to rank down good creators. I mean if people already good grief and tmake people feel like crap for jealousy and such (Defmunky666 for example) a lot of them could group up and completly ruin someone's rep and rank. Sorry m8, but ranks is never a good thing in this kind of games. It COULD work but it would require that no one thumbed up noobs*. Lets say at the beginning only Mm can give out thumbs up and thumbs down that way they can pick people who deserve to be Thumbs uped and thumbs downed. Then the people who got thumbs uped can thumbs up other good creators.If the people who get thumb uped only thumbs up other deserving creators then it would be a network of good creators and within that you could have ranks or just be more trusted because they have more thumbs up. BUT, even then it would require that the people who get thumbs up don't thumb up a spamming 3 yr old. It would be great if it would work but I don't see it happening considering on person could ruin it and you would have ton of noobs thumbing up more noobs who thumb up more.... you get the idea. also to help that you could put a limit on how many in one day like 5 or so or like 1 every 10 min. *by noob I mean annoying OMG shark bomb hotel survial with jet skis in all caps after all we were all newbies once

2010-05-24 21:16:00 Author: FocusRSdude Posts: 145

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Ultimately, I don't think there's ever going to be an easy way to find levels you like. I'm pretty happy with the way it works now, actually. I find levels I wanna' play based on word of mouth, checking the forums here and elsewhere, and occasionally rifling through other respected creator's hearted levels. I can't say I'm happy with the way it works now, but I agree that there probably won't ever be a truly easy way to find levels you like. Word of mouth is definitely the way to go, but the problem is how do you get the word out? Browsing hearted levels worked well for a while, but I find it harder and harder to find good levels this way because I and many others ran out of hearts a long time ago and for a while there has been a glitch that prevents you from hearting levels played from someone else's hearted level page. Lbp.me is a huge step in the right direction because it makes it so much easier to play levels recommended by others. If there is any place for a type of ranking system, then I say it should be for players who give good feedback. There are people out there that are more than willing to give decent feedback and help others find good levels. Perhaps they could double the space in the level comment boxes and give players a thumbs up option to elevate good comments on a level to a place where everyone can see them easily. People could give little reviews and have them displayed right next to the level you are browsing. If they allowed you to go to the reviewer's page then it could also open another door to decent levels because in my experience, people that leave good feedback usually have a good page of hearted levels to check out. Sure, you could go to someone's comment box right now and look through a bunch of spam and H4H comments to find people that aren't morons, but somehow shining some light on these people would make the experience far less painful.

2010-05-24 22:30:00 Author: Reef1978 Posts: 527

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I can see it now.. RANK 4 RANK PLZ TY TY.

2010-05-25 03:11:00 Author: KablooieKablam Posts: 364

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@FocusRS: Sorry, but do you really think that's ever gonna happen, or even possible...?

2010-05-25 03:59:00 Author: Silverleon Posts: 6707

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This idea is EXACTLY the same thing as rating a level up or down. Except that it's rating "users" instead of the levels. This would bring absolutely nothing. Probably just problems. A game cannot be based on people rating --- you know how bad they rate. Just look at the levels rating in LBP and this will tell you how bad it would be to rate users.

2010-05-25 04:15:00 Author: RangerZero Posts: 3901

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Just please don't do it. Has everything to be ranked so that you can bloat about it at your friends? I like what Reef1978 said.

2010-05-25 07:20:00 Author: Unknown User

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Oh good god no. It would just be H4H all over again, writ large.

2010-05-25 09:29:00 Author: roux- Posts: 379

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