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LBP deleted 5-6 hours of work!!!

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I will never play LBP1 again! I worked like 5-6 hours on one of my levels and I only had to add a few magic mouths so I saved my level (I did that many times within that 5-6 hours) and left the game so I could change the language to english because I didn't know the english names for some cloths I needed to mention on the speechbubbles. However, I tried to leave the game but then the PS3 had to restart for any reason and when I came back to my level everything I did has gone!!! I spend the afternoon and the evening working on my level and did alot of really cools stuff and I was even just about to publish it and then the game deleted it all!!! I didn't even get a message that my pop-it is full or something it just deleted all my work!!! I've had enough!!!!!! I don't know when LBP2 will be released but I don't wast time on LBP1 anymore! I had many cool levels in the making like my RE1 mansion, a very detailed Dantes Inferno level with a costume, an alien level, a Silent Hill level, my submarine level and a few others I almost finished but it's the last time I waste hours of my life for nothing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!2010-05-10 22:20:00

Author:
Chrree
Posts: 554


It's terrible that this happened to you, and I'm very sorry. This is why I back up my levels by putting them on the world map as published and locked and by exporting the level and saving it to a thumb drive. I lost two hours of my crystal cave level and that was enough to make me do this all the time.2010-05-10 22:26:00

Author:
xkappax
Posts: 2569


Sucks when this happens I know. I've taken to backing up my level every few hours using the in game backup option. I also back up my profile every couple of days to avoid loosing stuff forever. It's saved me more than once. Hope you cool down but I understand your frustration.2010-05-10 22:27:00

Author:
Morgana25
Posts: 5983


Unfortunately I forgot about doing that because I was so happy to finaly publish something new. I doubt that I will continue with LBP though. Last time that happened because my pop-it was full and I didn't knew that it won't save anymore I stoped playing it for like half a year and now I'm even more ******. I hope we don't have to wait too long for LBP2 so I can hopefully make levels without such ridiculous problems.2010-05-10 22:31:00

Author:
Chrree
Posts: 554


Sorry to hear that Chrree. Its happened to me too, 4 hours of work i done and i pressed back up and my ps3 froze and i lost it all. Its really upsetting so i know how you feel. I now publish any work i have done on a new level locked on my community moon to make sure its extra safe. Try and work on it again when you have calmed down and it might turn out better then before as you know what you are doing 2010-05-10 22:33:00

Author:
Fenderjt
Posts: 1969


Hope you cool down but I understand your frustration.
It's probably safe to say that almost everyone around here understands your frustration, most of us have been there and thank god the game is less buggy than it used to be. Not that that makes any difference to you at the moment chrree, I'm sure. The only positive I can put on this for you is that 95% of the time, if you do something again, it's better and quicker. So if you do cool off and decide to come back, there is always that as a slight silver lining.


On a side note, it's highly unlikely that LBP2 will fix the issue of data loss. Sorry to put a bit of a downer on this, but that is an inherent problem with computer systems, so the possibility will still be there
2010-05-10 22:36:00

Author:
rtm223
Posts: 6497


My reccomedation, and please do try this.

Try and rebuild the level, why?

BElieve me, i know right now that's the last thing on your mind, but trust me, me along with many others have lost howrs, even days full of level creating for stuff like that, but whenever this happens, rebuilding the level no only does it place us back on the game, the level usually turns out waaay better than it used to as now you know what you're doing, no to mention it will be a lot faster to build too.

So please, at least give it a try, yes?
2010-05-10 22:40:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707


Sorry to hear that, but I have seen and recovered from far worse issues. Basically working in LBP is just like working on a pc. If you are being smart and safe, you save often and create a backup as you just never know what issues may come up.

In the meantime, maybe you should look into anger management. You might live longer.
2010-05-10 22:44:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383


The problem is that I hardly can motivate myself to work on my levels and when I have to do stuff again I have no motivation left anymore. What even bugs me more is that my level was ready to get published! Most of the stuff I did was detailed stuff that always takes long so Im sure it will take me at least 4 hours if I do it again.


On a side note, it's highly unlikely that LBP2 will fix the issue of data loss.
Let's hope not! That is what I hate about LBP the most!


So please, at least give it a try, yes?
I don't know. Well let's wait a few months and maybe I will have changed my mind.

[quoteIn the meantime, maybe you should look into anger management.[/quote]
I'm just very frustrated about alot of things. I don't think that is necessary.

Does anyone know the release date of LBP2?
2010-05-10 23:12:00

Author:
Chrree
Posts: 554


Later on this year, prob around November/October time, thats what ive heard but it hasnt been confirmed2010-05-10 23:21:00

Author:
Fenderjt
Posts: 1969


aw that sucks but its happened to all of us even multiple times on greater scales D: Trust me building it a second time opens up room for improvement and its much faster. Some people even discard there first try purposely because they know the second will be worth it 2010-05-10 23:32:00

Author:
Littlebigdude805
Posts: 1924


I'm just very frustrated about alot of things. I don't think that is necessary.


Well.. I'm sorry for suggesting that, but the thread title as well as the first sentence speaks volumes along with how many times I have seen you lash out at others for something as simple as adding a bit of humor. So just ignore me, but hope you rethink all this and get back on the horse that tossed you. LBP can be a horribly frustrating game at times and it really is meant to be fun. If it isn't then maybe you do need a long break.

Good luck!
2010-05-10 23:49:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383


I think it is because you changed your system's language to English. Sometimes that confuses the game. Remember the game only saves your level to RAM when you click "Save Level" and RAM data is lost when the system shuts down. To save your level to the HDD, leave to the pod.2010-05-11 00:05:00

Author:
Holguin86
Posts: 875


that sucks... You need to return to the pod regularly because that's the only time it saves for real. I really hope that they add autosave to lbp2... Or both.
EDIT: oh, everything got deleted?!?! Wow, that really sucks. *Cough*play my copyable online storage level*cough*
2010-05-11 00:10:00

Author:
tjb0607
Posts: 1054


Sorry to hear that Chrree. Its happened to me too, 4 hours of work i done and i pressed back up and my ps3 froze and i lost it all. Its really upsetting so i know how you feel. I now publish any work i have done on a new level locked on my community moon to make sure its extra safe. Try and work on it again when you have calmed down and it might turn out better then before as you know what you are doing

Fancy crown.

Back on topic: Just the other day Mr. Radical invited me to play with him (not his fault at all) and my level with three more hours of work done, did not save. Thankfully i could do it again and more efficiantly this time too. Bummer, i know
2010-05-11 00:51:00

Author:
Emogotsaone
Posts: 1030


That sure does suck, sorry for your loss.

Thus do not forget, LittleBigPlanet does not deserve to be insulted!
2010-05-11 01:50:00

Author:
PoD CREW
Posts: 268


The problem is that I have to redo many very detailed things which I you can't do any faster. Besides that I already loved how I made it and if I would redo it it should be a 1:1 copy of what I did before.2010-05-11 03:25:00

Author:
Chrree
Posts: 554


You could at least keep to playing levels when the spotlight comes up. Remember: Create is only one part of LBP.2010-05-11 03:28:00

Author:
JspOt
Posts: 3607


The only time I play levels is when I need a tutorial or something but when I don't make levels anymore I wouldn't play those either. Well I could do some reviews for forum users but that would be all.2010-05-11 04:00:00

Author:
Chrree
Posts: 554


Ok, I am forcing myself right now to redo everything. If I am lucky I can publish it in a few hours. I will start a thread about my new level then. I hope it won't get deleted by Mm because it's a Dantes Inferno level and there are some things that are really a bit extreme.2010-05-11 18:38:00

Author:
Chrree
Posts: 554


kool can't wait 2010-05-11 22:56:00

Author:
Littlebigdude805
Posts: 1924


Well you don't have to wait. I posted it half an hour ago and already 1 whole person visited my thread! O_O Now I'm thrilled!!!2010-05-11 22:58:00

Author:
Chrree
Posts: 554


Can we now let this thread die now that you have a new thread? I'm sick of seeing this thread title. It's not very nice and offends me.2010-05-11 23:04:00

Author:
TheCountessZ
Posts: 537


I think it is because you changed your system's language to English. Sometimes that confuses the game. Remember the game only saves your level to RAM when you click "Save Level" and RAM data is lost when the system shuts down. To save your level to the HDD, leave to the pod.

UIm..dude...that was fixed like a long time ago!
I don't remember well, but i think it was Leerdamer that fixed it, now it DOES save it every time you save the game.
It was even on the video they show in the game right after the update... -_-



Ok, I am forcing myself right now to redo everything. If I am lucky I can publish it in a few hours. I will start a thread about my new level then. I hope it won't get deleted by Mm because it's a Dantes Inferno level and there are some things that are really a bit extreme.

Glad you decided to return.
2010-05-11 23:46:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707


I hope you all give my level a try since I made such a drama of it. xD Well a mod can close this thread now. After a while you better even delete this thread when everyone read my post because the topic is not nice. Thank you.2010-05-11 23:59:00

Author:
Chrree
Posts: 554


As sad and sorrowful as I feel for you right now, this in my opinion is no such reason to drop the game forever. As a community, I can easily say that each and every one of us have had terrible experiences similar to yours, but we have all gotten through our problems and carried on doing what us Happy Gadders do. I advise that you take a short period of time away from LittleBigPlanet and, though this may be the last thing on your mind, try to create the level anew. On the subject of LittleBigPlanet 2, It is highly unlikely that this problem will be fixed, as, just like any computer, the PS3 has bugs, sorry.2010-05-12 00:05:00

Author:
RJA00000
Posts: 387


As sad and sorrowful as I feel for you right now, this in my opinion is no such reason to drop the game forever. As a community, I can easily say that each and every one of us have had terrible experiences similar to yours, but we have all gotten through our problems and carried on doing what us Happy Gadders do. I advise that you take a short period of time away from LittleBigPlanet and, though this may be the last thing on your mind, try to create the level anew. On the subject of LittleBigPlanet 2, It is highly unlikely that this problem will be fixed, as, just like any computer, the PS3 has bugs, sorry.

lol, dude she's already back on the game you know?
2010-05-12 00:13:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707


@RJA00000
Thx but as I already said I forced myself to redo everything and already posted a thread for my level. ^^
2010-05-12 00:24:00

Author:
Chrree
Posts: 554


It's probably safe to say that almost everyone around here understands your frustration, most of us have been there and thank god the game is less buggy than it used to be.

Certainly happened to me too, although never since Leerdammer. Prior to that however, I've lost at least one level, and maybe a dozen custom objects, costumes and stickers, due to the PS3 crashing for one reason or another.

Since Leerdammer, I've taken to doing a complete profile backup before and after I do any serious amount of creating, and I'd strongly recommend that others take the same precautions.



On a side note, it's highly unlikely that LBP2 will fix the issue of data loss. Sorry to put a bit of a downer on this, but that is an inherent problem with computer systems, so the possibility will still be there

Yep. Pretty much all software has bugs. Nothing you can do about it, so for the sake of your own sanity, you have to work around it by making backups.



Well you don't have to wait. I posted it half an hour ago and already 1 whole person visited my thread!

I think you'll find there's a lot of interest in LBP2 right now, so don't be surprised if you see any tumbleweed rolling through the other parts of the forum for a little while.



I don't remember well, but i think it was Leerdamer that fixed it, now it DOES save it every time you save the game.

Yep. It was 'fixed' in Leerdammer, making rtm's backup guide (https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=12403-Back-Up-your-LBP-Data-Here-s-why-and-how) somewhat out of date (hint hint ).

There are still a couple of oddities I've noticed, with regards to certain actions not registering as changes. For example, if all you do is tweak a prize bubble to contain a different prize, then switch to play mode, you won't be asked if you want to save changes, and you'll lose that change.



Well a mod can close this thread now. After a while you better even delete this thread when everyone read my post because the topic is not nice. Thank you.

Or you could just go back and re-edit the first post, change the title, and tidy up the language a little. It still contains some information about backups and other precautions which might be of use to others.
2010-05-12 15:11:00

Author:
Aya042
Posts: 2870


Awww too bad what happend to you! Your shoukd back up your levels and put them LOCKED on the earth! 2010-05-12 17:53:00

Author:
Eoghan11
Posts: 145


Yea, ^Eoghan^ has the right idea xD that's why they brought out a Back-up system which saves your level onto your hard drive. I do back-up my levels and also sometimes publish them on the world (locked) because then it's saved to your online profile and can be edited or copied even when playing on a different ps3. Make sure you don't turn off your system by the switch or even quitting the game when it's saving or loading something because this is how these situations happens. Hope this helps 2010-05-12 18:12:00

Author:
XXGrEEn0Xx
Posts: 75


OP could have easily run into a bug no one has ever reported before. There must be a small amount of people that switch languages like this. I've lost levels in the past but never to the extent reported here but I definitely feel for you. It's also good habit to create a lot of the cooler bits of your level in a construction save file and then copy your creation over to the level you plan on publishing. This helps prevent a lot of the odd mishaps that can occur when tweaking pistons and other tools or the ever common unlgue of the entire level. [at least for me ] Just place the new part into the level, draw it into the ground or tack it in place with dark matter and save yourself a lot of headaches.2010-05-12 18:16:00

Author:
docpac
Posts: 601


If you regularly experience data loss, or want to be extra careful, then back up your level before you shut down LBP.2010-05-13 01:02:00

Author:
Incinerator22
Posts: 3251


Aww, that's too bad. I never lost anything, but on my next level, I'm pretty sure my luck will run out.2010-05-13 01:37:00

Author:
chezhead
Posts: 1063


I've lost my LBP saved data twice now, once to the wheel of death glitch and once when I booted up LBP and it just went "By the way, your data is corrupt, fancy starting again? No, i'm not going to tell you why, just do it".

So i've 100%'d the LBP story 3 times now, I know how it feels to lose time. I almost lost my Zero Punctuation level as well, I had to delete a lot of it just to get it to stop glitching, this was back at the end of 08 though.
2010-05-14 23:25:00

Author:
Asbestos101
Posts: 1114


HA! Only lost 5-6 hours?! That's nothing.

I can not count how many times LBP has crashed on me and destroyed countless days of progress.

I actually lost two whole levels in a story series. I had decided to do two levels at once - I was almost done and the first level glitched and would not open (back in the day with the "failed to load" error). Obviously, I couldn't publish the second level without the first since it was story related.

The glitches in this game are really bad. I have a love/hate relationship with this game. It is one of the best games ever made - but there are so many glitches and crashes that it can be hard to continue playing.

But, I do agree with some others here - when I have lost data or levels - when I have begrudgingly restarted the level, it ALWAYS turns out 10X better then I had originally designed it.
2010-05-15 15:13:00

Author:
CYMBOL
Posts: 1230


How long did it take you to do the two levels?2010-05-16 01:34:00

Author:
Chrree
Posts: 554


How long did it take you to do the two levels?

I was working on it off and on for a couple of months. I had already published part one - these two were parts 2 and 3 - but part two crashed during a last minute tweak - it destroyed the whole series. I was pretty annoyed. Sooooo many hours gone (not to mention the story level was useless now.

I simply couldn't bring myself to recreate it. I ended up taking a gameplay portion and turning it into a gameplay series called "Puzzle Wheels". I'm quite proud of my Puzzle Wheels series - as there is not another level like them in LBP (that I have seen.)

But, I seriously almost just threw the disc in the trash.
2010-05-16 04:55:00

Author:
CYMBOL
Posts: 1230


Yeah this happened to me yesterday i spent the whole day making a really detailed epic level and i noticed the save logo was spinning the entire time i was on lbp tried to back up my level and it froze!

LBP SAVE EPIC FAIL

Soverso out
2010-05-16 09:11:00

Author:
Sim725
Posts: 247


Wow, you guys have had it bad. The only data-related bug I ever had, was losing some of my objects because they were corrupted (and i've had LBP for about 1.5 years now). Just follow the guides available here about backing up, saving, losing data and all that stuff, and when it strikes you will be prepared.

Anyway, I found that the best way to save your level, is to go into Play Mode - it's quick, and it saves the level to the harddrive. No need to leave to the pod. And don't forget to back-up your levels using the built-in backup tool

Another tip, try building in Pause Mode as much as you can. When you need to test out your level, do so in play mode. If you just want to quickly test something in your level however, it's okay to unpause. This is to circumvent the 160-hour bug, which mucks up your pistons and several other devices in your level.

In most of the cases, it's not safe to turn off your PS3 when LBP is running. (This might corrupt your data). However, when you don't see the "spinning sackboy" icon on the bottom left corner of the screen, it's safe to turn off your PS3. Since it isn't writing any save data, turning the PS3 off won't interfere with it and thus not corrupt any of it.

@Asbestos101: I know this hit you in '08, but just in case you didn't know: You can back-up your entire LBP save data (LittleBigPlanet Profile) as well. Just press START, then go to Settings->Profile Settings, and then click Back-up Profile. Via the same menu, you can import that backed-up profile.
2010-07-05 06:32:00

Author:
robbit10
Posts: 450


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