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Modnation Racers: The LBP killer?

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I've been thinking and realized that Modnation Racers is appealing to the exact same demographic that LittleBigPlanet did at its release. Come May 25th, I predict a major dip in the number of players online in LBP. This is not to say that it will cause a permanent downfall, but many people (myself included) will want to check out Modnation Racers and all of the new features it includes for at least a few months. This game has been teased for months and I for one have many ideas bouncing around for the track creation feature. I'm going to be playing Modnation Racers for a while before I get back into LBP (if I ever do; you never know).

Obviously there are many dedicated LBP players that will stay and not everyone who owns LBP is buying Modnation Racers, but think about it. There will probably be a noticeable (if not permanent) decrease in the online community of LittleBigPlanet when Modnation Racers is released. You just can't argue that it's the same demographic.

Who knows, maybe it'll just serve as a much needed "denoobing" of the LBP servers

Personally, I say it's time LBP got some competition. Keeps Mm on their toes.

Opinions?
2010-04-29 09:14:00

Author:
KablooieKablam
Posts: 364


Well you have to think that the two games are tottally diferent. One is a platformer and the other is a racer.2010-04-29 14:45:00

Author:
robotiod
Posts: 2662


I'm not buying MNR, I don't like it.
I was in the BETA and I got bored of it a few days later
2010-04-29 15:12:00

Author:
Alec
Posts: 3871


I think that, while the games bring similar concepts to the table (namely, the concept of Play, Create, Share) they appeal to two vastly different demographics of gamers. LBP appeals to platformer fans, MNR appeals to racing fans. Sure, some people who bought LBP will buy MNR, but the claim that it will cause a significant decrease in players could be said any time a new game comes out. Personally, I don't think MM has anything to worry about, as far as losing a ton of their players. Sure, they may lose some, but they are always losing some, and gaining others. (Case in point, I haven't played LBP in months, but I'm sure tons of new players have started since that time.) CrazeAlec put it best: There will be lots of people who won't buy it because they don't like it. Either they found it boring or they don't like racers or they're fine with the games they have or they haven't the money.

tl;dr-MNR is not the LBP killer.
2010-04-29 15:39:00

Author:
dandygandy2704
Posts: 1002


It's a cart racer...

Judging by the PSP demo, it's a good cart racer but nothing we haven't seen before. I haven't tried the track editor yet so I may be totally wrong but I think you get to deform the terrain and place procedural trees, etc...doesn't provide the same level of freeform creativity as the LBP level editor. That said it's probably easier to mess around and create a fun race...so it may appeal more to people that are intimidated by the prospect of creating a LBP level...i.e. not the same audience.

I hope MNR does well but I doubt I'll pick it up...I like the racing/controls in WipeOut better.

For me the LBP killer will be LBP2!
2010-04-29 15:41:00

Author:
fullofwin
Posts: 1214


it won't tbh, the fact you can't create your own contraptions to put in your track puts me off.2010-04-29 16:03:00

Author:
oldage
Posts: 2824


For me the LBP killer will be LBP2!

I doubt there will be an LBP2, for good reasons...

Anyway, although MR is admittedly from a different genre, it does bring some features to the table that LBP is long overdue for. Like sharing Mods/Karts. Maybe not LBP costumes, but when are we going to share Pods?
2010-04-29 18:08:00

Author:
KablooieKablam
Posts: 364


I have absolutely no interest in modnation racers.2010-04-29 18:25:00

Author:
Jagrevi
Posts: 1154


I have absolutely no interest in modnation racers.

Me neither. If it does pull players from LBP, I am hoping it is all the ones that make those "I spent 3 hours on mah lvl H4H" type of levels.
2010-04-29 18:29:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383


I doubt MNR would be an LBP killer. I do have plans on picking it up. I'm preordering it. And I know I will be pretty addicted to it. But I'm not brushing aside LBP. I'll be playing both games. Even though ModNation doesn't let you create your own objects from scratch, it still offers plenty of possibilities create-wise.

@CrazeAlec:

How are you comparing the beta to the final release? Last I checked, the beta was very limited in what you could do from the final release. Sorry if I'm wrong, but that's what people I know that were in it and the game creators themselves said a while back. Unless that changed at some point during the beta and I'm unaware of that.

@KablooieKablam

As far as I know there is an LBP2 in the works that leaked. Then again I haven't checked any news or threads in the past week to see any updates on the topic.
2010-04-29 18:31:00

Author:
Unknown User


I have absolutely no interest in modnation racers.

Me neither, it just doesn't seem as interesting as LBP, you can make a race level in LBP, but you can't make a platformer in MDR.
2010-04-29 18:35:00

Author:
X-FROGBOY-X
Posts: 1800


@ s3xNstilettos,
Hmm you maybe right, but I still think MNR isn't the game for me
2010-04-29 19:19:00

Author:
Alec
Posts: 3871


You seem to have made a lot of MNR threads.

You realise CC has a WHOLE FORUM FOR MNR right?
2010-04-29 19:39:00

Author:
Unknown User


I'm siding with Jagrevi on this. Even if it did interest me, it wouldn't keep me from playing LBP at least once a day.

@jwwphotos Oooooh, then we can get back to the good old "Quality over Quantity" days!
2010-04-29 19:42:00

Author:
GreyMRP
Posts: 588


It does look interesting but I doubt it will put a large enough dent in the LBP community for anyone to notice. I mean, LBP has been out for 2 years and it's community count is still ridiculously strong. Most games tend to die down less than 1/2 a year after their release, but LBP is still going. Just goes to show how dedicated the community is, and I really think the only thing that could be a LBP killer at this point would be a LBP2 2010-04-29 20:52:00

Author:
Duffluc
Posts: 402


Yeah... MNR is NOT the LBP killer. First off, yes, two VERY, COMPLETELY different types of games, one a racer, and the other multipurpose (a platformer, yes, but platformers can be adventure, action, and all that jazz).

LBP is a huge development software, amazingly pulled together into a very easy format like no other. MNR just is more limited. No huge possibility, really. Fun, yes, but it doesn't allow you to Create anywher eenar the scale of LBP. so no, in no way is it a LBP killer.

BTW, the site Alex mentioend is www.mnrcentral.com

If you're that interested, should probably go to our sister site
2010-04-29 20:59:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882


Let my lawyer Phoenix Wright respond to this

http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=3878734
2010-04-29 21:05:00

Author:
767
Posts: 123


True, but for the un-dedicated, 7-year-old players, it'll probably pull them away.

This is GOOD NEWS for anyone who misses the glory days of LBP

And 767, that was so many levels of win. Words fail me.
2010-04-30 07:23:00

Author:
KablooieKablam
Posts: 364


I dunno, I think it looks pretty cool. I probably wouldn't play it forever, but it'd certainly interest me for a little while.2010-04-30 16:17:00

Author:
standby250
Posts: 1113


Gah!
Again?!
Why exactly do you people keep saying that?

One is a CART RACING game.
The other is a Platformer
Is that so difficult to understand???

Remind me why will one game of a category kill a game of a completly different category again...?
Its like saying Bioshock 2 will kill Assassins Creed II, they have nothing to do with each other!

Oh, they both allow you to create/ modify and publish?
Yeah, and many games allow you to kill, roam around, fire weapons, have different outfits, allow you to fight, etc. so that means all those who hwve that will kill the previous title?!


Bah, this is PROTOTYPE vs InFamous all over again... >_>


Srry for the extra harsh m8, just wanted to have that rant for a while, don't take it personally.
Tho don't misunderstand either, my point is still the same, that IS my opinion.
2010-04-30 16:55:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707


I don't know, but I'm definitely going to buy it. It will take many players from LBP I think. People are maybe getting a bit bored of LBP, and they want to try something new in the kind-of-genre. But I think people would return back after they get tired of MNR.2010-04-30 20:57:00

Author:
ghik16
Posts: 311


Remind me why will one game of a category kill a game of a completly different category again

Because people who like Play, Create, Share are going to like MNR. One might be a platformer and one might be a kart racer, but they have shared core elements.


Bah, this is PROTOTYPE vs InFamous all over again... >_>

Lulz, and inFamous blew Prototype out of the water. Bad example, because both LBP and MNR are probably gonna do well.
2010-04-30 22:04:00

Author:
KablooieKablam
Posts: 364


True, but for the un-dedicated, 7-year-old players, it'll probably pull them away.

This is GOOD NEWS for anyone who misses the glory days of LBP

And 767, that was so many levels of win. Words fail me.

I think we're in the Glory Days of LBP. I don't need Cool Levels to find good levels.

From a creator's point of view, MNR seems to offer little depth, but that's the problem with a kart-racing game. I'm not sure if there's anything you can do in MNR outside of straight-forward kart racing. There wouldn't be much you could do with MNR to make the creating deep without making it maddeningly complex.

Anyway, I'm not getting MNR after the beta. I'm waiting for LBP2.
2010-04-30 22:08:00

Author:
qrtda235566
Posts: 3664


I think we're in the Glory Days of LBP. I don't need Cool Levels to find good levels.

There wouldn't be much you could do with MNR to make the creating deep without making it maddeningly complex.

I'm waiting for LBP2.
(Numbered for ease of reading, not because I'm ranting lol)

1. I'm not sure anyone uses the Cool Levels page anymore I'm just saying that there was a time when bomb survivals didn't get all the plays.

2. True. And I'm not trying to say that you'll be able to do anything amazingly complex in MNR, but consider this: When we first saw LBP, no one ever imagined that it would be possible to do the things you can do. Logic, for example. Maybe there will be some epicly complex tracks in MNR once it's released. You never know.

3. LBP2 is unlikely, for good reason. I know I'D hate to lose all my DLC...
2010-04-30 22:17:00

Author:
KablooieKablam
Posts: 364


(Numbered for ease of reading, not because I'm ranting lol)

1. I'm not sure anyone uses the Cool Levels page anymore I'm just saying that there was a time when bomb survivals didn't get all the plays.

2. True. And I'm not trying to say that you'll be able to do anything amazingly complex in MNR, but consider this: When we first saw LBP, no one ever imagined that it would be possible to do the things you can do. Logic, for example. Maybe there will be some epicly complex tracks in MNR once it's released. You never know.

3. LBP2 is unlikely, for good reason. I know I'D hate to lose all my DLC...

....Yeah, but the LBP calculator was made in the beta, logic was something we all knew about in the beta. MNR, on the other hand, lacked anything that made creating that deep, and while it's possible that United Front have something up their sleeve, I highly doubt it. It's not that MNR isn't a good game, I had a lot of fun in the beta, though there are too many games coming up that I have to spend money on.

And on the off-topic topic of LBP2, hey, OCHRE said that they licensed his song for it, and it's rumored to be appearing at E3. Besides, it's MM we're talking about. There's no way they'd screw us over with DLC or something like that. If there is and LBP2, I think it will be something that isn't compatible with LBP1, so LBP1 would still be relevant. Like a 3D game or something. Regardless, I'm hoping for some kind of LBP announcement at E3.
2010-04-30 22:24:00

Author:
qrtda235566
Posts: 3664


Because people who like Play, Create, Share are going to like MNR. One might be a platformer and one might be a kart racer, but they have shared core elements.



Lulz, and inFamous blew Prototype out of the water. Bad example, because both LBP and MNR are probably gonna do well.
HA! Yeah right! I so much preffered Prototype!


Gah!
Again?!
Why exactly do you people keep saying that?

One is a CARAT RACING game.
The other is a Plataformer
Is that so difficult to understand???

Remind me why will one game of a category kill a game of a completly different category again...?
Its like saying Bioshock 2 will kill Assassins Creed II, they have nothing to do with each other!

Oh, they both allow you to create/ modify and publish?
Yeah, and many games allow you to kill, roam around, fire weapons, have different outfits, allow you to fight, etc. so that means all those who hwve that will kill the previous title?!


Bah, this is PROTOTYPE vs InFamous all over again... >_>


Srry for the extra harsh m8, just wanted to have that rant for a while, don't take it personally.
Tho don't misunderstand either, my point is still the same, that IS my opinion.

Lol, who were you talking to? And I'm pretty sure it's a CART racing game, not a CARAT racing game



Oh, and by the way, when is E3?
2010-05-01 01:02:00

Author:
standby250
Posts: 1113


E3 happens over the summer. Sometime in June, I believe.

And, on the subject of LBP2, I see two possibilities here. The first being something like Awesomemans said, something completely different that will keep LBP1 relevant. The second being something along the lines of just a new set of Story levels, maybe some new tools. Kinda like a giant new levels pack, only without all the licensing stuff. But I still really hope that LBP2 is a long, long time away. We'll see, right?
2010-05-01 23:52:00

Author:
dandygandy2704
Posts: 1002


I think they would most likey try to find a way to carry over the DLC from LBP1 and hopefully the creator levels.... if not all that time making levels would go to waste2010-05-01 23:59:00

Author:
767
Posts: 123


My statement: LBP is MNR's killer. Why? Because LBP can be a shooter/racer/anything for that matter. MNR can only be a racer. To be honest, I think MNR sucks (ya, I played the beta and PSP demo, and they both pushed me away).2010-05-02 00:17:00

Author:
CyberSora
Posts: 5551


"The Wii is a lollipop, and I'm too old for lollipops."

You're never too old for lollipops
2010-05-03 07:15:00

Author:
KablooieKablam
Posts: 364


HA! Yeah right! I so much preffered Prototype!



Lol, who were you talking to? And I'm pretty sure it's a CART racing game, not a CARAT racing game


Yeah yeah i made a typo, big whoop...

You should know by now the number of typos i make.
2010-05-03 08:08:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707


I will be playing both games.

AT THE SAME TIME. 0_0

:3
2010-05-03 11:12:00

Author:
Jovuto
Posts: 2345


I will be playing both games.

AT THE SAME TIME. 0_0

:3

Get it on PSP and PS3 that way, playing ps3 LBP, You can play psp MNR,
Playing PS3 MNR, Play PSP LBP.
Job done.
2010-05-03 11:30:00

Author:
robotiod
Posts: 2662


LOL Forgot bout' that. :32010-05-03 11:40:00

Author:
Jovuto
Posts: 2345


Get it on PSP and PS3 that way, playing ps3 LBP, You can play psp MNR,
Playing PS3 MNR, Play PSP LBP.
Job done.

Haha. Great idea.

Now we're talking about MNR. People should check my new LBP level. It's called: Sackboy Joins: Modnation Racers
2010-05-05 17:48:00

Author:
ghik16
Posts: 311


IGN US and UK both gave MNR a 9/10! Awesome!2010-05-05 20:05:00

Author:
ryryryan
Posts: 3767


Well you have to think that the two games are tottally diferent. One is a platformer and the other is a racer.

Next up with Play Create Share? a FPS...
2010-05-06 18:24:00

Author:
Nurolight
Posts: 918


A PCS first/third person game that allowed you do make your own weapons would be totally awesome.2010-05-07 00:11:00

Author:
Arkei
Posts: 1432


Hmm.. I have my doubts about the track creator in MNR, just think it doesn't have enough possibilities. You just lay down a track and some mountains, then you choose auto populate and voila: 1000's of tracks that all look about the same.
I hope so much that they will not screw up the create in LBP 2, cause I can see that coming. They will want to mak it accessible for a ''larger group of players'' and thus less complicated.
But maybe it will just be awesome, let's hope so
2010-05-08 12:38:00

Author:
ikbeneland
Posts: 57


It's looking to me now that LBP2 will be the MNR killer.2010-05-09 20:16:00

Author:
Arkei
Posts: 1432


I think many people will like MNR because it is so much easier to create levels/races . And you are saying there will be a downfall in LBP players but as i see it there isn't even that much LBP players online at a time anyway :eek:2010-05-09 20:40:00

Author:
Snrm
Posts: 6419


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