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http://www.littlebigplanet.com/en-gb/news/article/psp_update_2.05_-_cherry_pie/



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The ‘Cherry Pie’ Update (2.05) for PSP is now available for download! Check out all the shiny new bits and pieces we’ve included by following the link below.
To upgrade you’ll need wireless access: On the PSP™‘s XMB™ Menu, highlight the LBP™ icon and press the triangle button. Select Update and follow the instructions on screen… but first, let’s see what’s new!
New Objects


The Microbomb: a smaller shockbomb, which can kill creature brains and Sackboy, but won’t break anything else. Small, red and deadly, the microbomb is our new favourite toy, ideal as a grenade or as an explosive tip for a missile. Ka-boom.
The Magic Eye: give your creatures (and anything else) some peepers. Just put eyes on something, anything, and it’ll look at Sackboy when he’s near it, as well as making that object suddenly look sentient, and well, a bit weird.

Functions


Flip for Objects is now supported, so you can make them face in either direction. Very handy for vehicles.
Front View: removes all perspective, allowing that extra level of precision for all you creators who like to see exactly what you’re doing.
Circular shapes are now true circles. Previously they were twelve-sided objects, and not really round at all. Now, observe their sumptuous circularity.
Stickers now scale when the object they’re on is re-sized, saving you all a load of time. Which is good.
Improved overall stability. What we mean is that things should now do exactly what they should, as opposed to sometimes doing things that they shouldn’t (we think you know what we mean).
Support for the ‘Turbo! Premium Level Kit’.

New objects for free FTW!

Now it does state that the download is out now, but I have checked and it unfortunately isn't.
But I am sure it will be out quite soon in that case.		2010-04-26 16:42:00

Author:
mnimmo1986
Posts: 552

Oooh. "Improved Overall stability". Excellent!2010-04-26 16:50:00

Author:
SalieriAAX
Posts: 421

Am I dreaming? *faints!*

My personal favorite things on there is the sticker size changing and the eyes!		2010-04-26 16:51:00

Author:
Fastbro
Posts: 1277

Circles = Win
Front View = Super Win
Stability = Thank God

Flip & Sticker features sound great too! Can't wait to get home from work

Must resist the urge to tear apart my existing levels and cram the new stuff in...		2010-04-26 16:57:00

Author:
Bovrillor
Posts: 309

Ooh, just noticed they are referring to the Turbo Pack as a premium level kit.

I know we pretty much knew what it was but nice for confirmation 		2010-04-26 16:58:00

Author:
mnimmo1986
Posts: 552

Cherry Pie FTW!

Definitely looking forward to this.		2010-04-26 17:00:00

Author:
Gilgamesh
Posts: 2536

Eyes! EYES! Yay!!!!!!

*does a happy dance*		2010-04-26 17:11:00

Author:
Taffey
Posts: 3187

Party! I'm so happy they've finally realeased a new update! It' really annoying that they say it's out when it isn't, but I am hoping it should be out later today or tommorow!!
The Microbomb sounds a bit random as what I would actually like is a bomb that actually destroys part of the area around it. I suppose that might not happen as the psp would probably explode as well. It's nice to also have more functions that the ps3 had, like eyes and true circles, although I'm quite surprised that they didn't release it as DLC, because nearly everyone would buy it. Definitely worth the wait...I'm so exited....there isn't a word to describe it. How about Imsoexitedandicannotbelieveitomgimsohappythisisthe bestthingeverandihavenoideawhyimwritingareallylong wordwhichisbasicallyloadsofwordswithoutspaces. Yeah, how about that word?		2010-04-26 17:30:00

Author:
The Forgotten
Posts: 316

Party! I'm so happy they've finally realeased a new update! It' really annoying that they say it's out when it isn't, but I am hoping it should be out later today or tommorow!!
The Microbomb sounds a bit random as what I would actually like is a bomb that actually destroys part of the area around it. I suppose that might not happen as the psp would probably explode as well. It's nice to also have more functions that the ps3 had, like eyes and true circles, although I'm quite surprised that they didn't release it as DLC, because nearly everyone would buy it. Definitely worth the wait...I'm so exited....there isn't a word to describe it. How about Imsoexitedandicannotbelieveitomgimsohappythisisthe bestthingeverandihavenoideawhyimwritingareallylong wordwhichisbasicallyloadsofwordswithoutspaces. Yeah, how about that word?

You can already make bombs do that, if you think about it hard enough.

I'd be pretty angry if I had to pay for things that should have been there in the first place... so kudos to Cambridge for another great update... er, when it lands, anyway.		2010-04-26 17:51:00

Author:
Bovrillor
Posts: 309

D: I can't download it yet. Hurry up Sony D: I WANT MY CREATURE EYES! I hope it fixed the bugs too2010-04-26 18:30:00

Author:
Unknown User

I think we are all collectively holding our breath now... 2010-04-26 18:35:00

Author:
Bovrillor
Posts: 309

I think the use of the microbombs is so their less visable when blowing stuff up.2010-04-26 18:53:00

Author:
Fastbro
Posts: 1277

I think the use of the microbombs is so their less visable when blowing stuff up. we don't know how small they are yet lol. Sounds cool though. Hurry up sony D: I want it now2010-04-26 18:55:00

Author:
Unknown User

cheers this was brilliant help and saves a load of time like you mentioned - YIIIIPPPPPEEEE

finally a decent update. WHOA BABY YEEEEAAAAAHHHH!!!!!!! :star:		2010-04-26 21:06:00

Author:
SockFace
Posts: 190

actually for some reason it is saying that the game is the latest version - when it's not?

WHAT DO I DO? PLZ PLZ PLZ HELP?????? I AM CONFOOOOOOOSED!!!!! + AND ANNOYED!!!!		2010-04-26 21:15:00

Author:
SockFace
Posts: 190

BOO YAAAAAAA a new update with bomb and EYES that follow you! im pretty sure they will add a water function now alos as a update soon!2010-04-26 21:17:00

Author:
fatcat1413
Posts: 132

actually for some reason it is saying that the game is the latest version - when it's not?

WHAT DO I DO? PLZ PLZ PLZ HELP?????? I AM CONFOOOOOOOSED!!!!! + AND ANNOYED!!!!

I stated in the OP that while the post states it is already out, that is not the case.
All we can do is just wait, try again later and repeat until it is released.		2010-04-26 21:21:00

Author:
mnimmo1986
Posts: 552

sorry i can be a complete retard at times thank you for helping me. I am very sorry for wasting your time. i will vow to remember this is future. LOL LOL LOL :star:2010-04-26 21:23:00

Author:
SockFace
Posts: 190

wait when was the update released?
if today it will be released at 7:00-9:00 pm today.		2010-04-26 21:24:00

Author:
fatcat1413
Posts: 132

wait when was the update released?
if today it will be released at 7:00-9:00 pm today.
It's not released yet, contrary to what was posted on the LBP.com website, since it said it were already out at time of posting.

And that would be a first, updates getting a time slot. It's just whenever Sony pushes the update out.		2010-04-26 21:26:00

Author:
mnimmo1986
Posts: 552

So Cherry Pie huh? I'll hold in the innuendos on my mind right now to say THANK YOU! It's good to know they're aware of the wants for things in the leaked/mistaken tuts, because this means we might get picture stickers!2010-04-26 21:31:00

Author:
Voltergeist
Posts: 1702

so what time (exactly) is it going to be relesed? because it hasen't been released yet in england, UK, Hastings and it is 9:30 now, so what time?


EDIT = nevermind. you have already answered that . LOL		2010-04-26 21:35:00

Author:
SockFace
Posts: 190

Thank god, glad to hear of an update which "Increases Stability". So tired of Static Objects moving slightly out of place when they're packed together.2010-04-26 21:51:00

Author:
Skeggers
Posts: 583

Mmm..mmm....mmm I love Cherry Pie! 2010-04-26 22:05:00

Author:
xX-EPIC_MEATWAD-Xx
Posts: 160

mnimmo i hate to say this >.< but when a update says its out and its not it usually out at 7:00-9:00pm. how do i know? because i watch the clock at my house when i check.

and are u not part of the "crew" of lbp creators? if not y r u hosting contests on littlebigworkshop.com?		2010-04-26 22:17:00

Author:
fatcat1413
Posts: 132

This is a very unexpected and pleasant surprise. =) I hope these changes do not effect the level I'm working on.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFtD1DMal3o		2010-04-26 22:29:00

Author:
Xenon
Posts: 306

mnimmo i hate to say this >.< but when a update says its out and its not it usually out at 7:00-9:00pm. how do i know? because i watch the clock at my house when i check.

and are u not part of the "crew" of lbp creators? if not y r u hosting contests on littlebigworkshop.com?

Thats because they have to make time in their scedule to make sure its out in every country the game is in. It takes time to upload the update to everybodys PSP and people just need to be patient. So do not blame mnimmo for this issue of yours. :kz:		2010-04-26 22:32:00

Author:
xX-EPIC_MEATWAD-Xx
Posts: 160

God I love that song ^_^2010-04-26 22:35:00

Author:
xX-EPIC_MEATWAD-Xx
Posts: 160

man it should be like BING its in europe, BING us now and then BING BING BING. and im not accusuing mnimmo of it! its not his fault ok so dont "accuse" me of accusing people its not nice u know!2010-04-26 22:38:00

Author:
fatcat1413
Posts: 132

I blame MM For false announcement! Let's start a revolt!

Or not.		2010-04-26 22:42:00

Author:
Skeggers
Posts: 583

Geez man its all cool in da pool! Just give them a little time eh?2010-04-26 22:42:00

Author:
xX-EPIC_MEATWAD-Xx
Posts: 160

yea hopefully its out at 7:00 but if not then tomorrow.2010-04-26 23:46:00

Author:
fatcat1413
Posts: 132

It might be a while yet... If they said it would be out immediately, but it's not, they're probably working on fixing it. But considering it's around 7 hours late, the problem might be pretty big. That being said, it could take another 24 hours or so. Maybe even longer. Just chill... go on a vacation to The Bahamas, then when you get back, it'd probably be out, eh? 2010-04-27 00:29:00

Author:
Unknown User

lol behamas! woohoo wheres my virtual reality machine thingy >.> <.<.

and it might be out probably around 9 or 10 pm considering that its not released yet. maybe even tomorrow. who knows!		2010-04-27 00:42:00

Author:
fatcat1413
Posts: 132

I never liked Cherry pie, but now I'm getting used to it. But then I looked at the picture, I lost my appetite.2010-04-27 01:11:00

Author:
Silver39
Posts: 1703

it is out go and get it.2010-04-27 01:15:00

Author:
tominater12
Posts: 87

I'm gonna wait first. Last time we had a 'seemingly sent from heaven' update. It caused more problems than solved them.2010-04-27 01:20:00

Author:
Silver39
Posts: 1703

I'm gonna wait first. Last time we had a 'seemingly sent from heaven' update. It caused more problems than solved them.

Seems to be a lot faster now actually but i will be the scape goat and test some levels to see of they break from this one. Also magic eyes rule.		2010-04-27 01:24:00

Author:
tominater12
Posts: 87

It seems after the update community planet will not let me access it this sucks. Also it seems that the Turbo! pack will cost money and was predownloaded with the update.2010-04-27 01:31:00

Author:
tominater12
Posts: 87

wooohoooo its out and now ima test out everything!
by pre-downloaded do u mean its included or u have to buy it either way since u downloaded the update?		2010-04-27 01:35:00

Author:
fatcat1413
Posts: 132

wooohoooo its out and now ima test out everything!
by pre-downloaded do u mean its included or u have to buy it either way since u downloaded the update?

No by predownload I mean it is there under purchased levels and you can see it but once you click it there is something about buying it from psn.		2010-04-27 01:42:00

Author:
tominater12
Posts: 87

impossible its not on the psn YET! how and why do they do this to us? T.T they R playing with us!

ima have a serious talk with our fellow lbp producers and see what they have to say bout this! maybe they will give us all codes for the turbo pack cuz they made us look at the level section just to find out that we have to pay for the level just to be able to play it when we could have just waited till it comes out on the psn and then added it to the section in the first place! but i doubt they will just give it out to us but maybe a code for the level will probably be the thing they will do.		2010-04-27 01:50:00

Author:
fatcat1413
Posts: 132

hey fatcat can you get online?2010-04-27 01:58:00

Author:
tominater12
Posts: 87

Yesh! I can finally have a dessert that'll get rid of this awful strawberry cheescake taste!2010-04-27 01:58:00

Author:
CyberSora
Posts: 5551

no it says u need to update it, just a simple flaw i think they will have to change and probably they will make the turbo pack playable just for our troubles when they re-call the update to fix this irratating problem >.>.

oh i found a bug major or temporarily. when u put a piston on a object and go to delete it the piston temporarily doesn't delete and then will turn invisible and will sometimes connect to a different object that u didn't want connected to.		2010-04-27 02:00:00

Author:
fatcat1413
Posts: 132

Anybody able to get online yet? It's sortta irratating.2010-04-27 02:45:00

Author:
xX-EPIC_MEATWAD-Xx
Posts: 160

nope just another temporarily bug that i hope when they re-call it we can play turbo when they are done fixing it just because we had to put up with not getting online.2010-04-27 02:49:00

Author:
fatcat1413
Posts: 132

weird... im still getting 'game is the latest version' and community moon works fine2010-04-27 02:49:00

Author:
Bovrillor
Posts: 309

maybe they havent put the update up yet where u live or they have re-called it already! my words have inspired them to re-call it and fix the update! well i hope my words did.2010-04-27 02:51:00

Author:
fatcat1413
Posts: 132

A certain song comes to mind after reading those additions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_H229IlRnzA		2010-04-27 02:53:00

Author:
Pete1991
Posts: 225

umm try not to do the forum codes as this is not myspace and the code wont work use the other code the vid has thanks 2010-04-27 02:55:00

Author:
fatcat1413
Posts: 132

Wow, I am late to this party Sometimes it really sucks being on the other side of the world since these big announcements happen right after I fall asleep :-P

Anyway, this is all ridiculously exciting. I mean, I would have never expected a new tool (!!!) along with many needed fixes (flipping objects!!!, Scaling stickers!!!!, MORE STABILITY!!!)!

Hopefully the kinks in the update get worked out (I probably won't download it for another 10 hours since I am busy all day).		2010-04-27 03:19:00

Author:
amazingflyingpoo
Posts: 1515

i hope the bugs that came with this update do get fixed because the online moon is important.2010-04-27 03:22:00

Author:
fatcat1413
Posts: 132

It seems after the update community planet will not let me access it this sucks. Also it seems that the Turbo! pack will cost money and was predownloaded with the update.
And you expected a Premium Level pack from the "Purchased" Levels section to be free.

Also, just like other updates that contain DLC it alread patched in ready so that when you purchase the item from the store, all you are basically getting is an unlock code that allows you access to that data from the patch.


i hope when they re-call it we can play turbo when they are done fixing it just because we had to put up with not getting online.
Unlikely, the DLC data is patched in just like any other update before they release it generally on the store. They need to update the store first so you can buy it before you can play it.

That doesn't guarantee that it will get released this week on the store though, just that the data is there ready for when they do.

As for the on-line issues...
If they pulled the update, which means the server thinks that the latest update is 2.04, and with the user not matching as having that update because they are on 2.05 (i.e. not the latest patch even though it's one above) they aren't allowed online. Conflicting version info?

Just a thought.		2010-04-27 07:12:00

Author:
mnimmo1986
Posts: 552

Aha!! The mysterious missing creature eyes have appeared!!

These changes seem too good to be true! I'm very excited about this!		2010-04-27 09:04:00

Author:
xero
Posts: 2419

For the record, the update is still available on the NA servers (I just downloaded it), and after I downloaded it I couldn't access the community moon anymore. It loads to the screen where it says it is loading the community moon (or something like that... It is the screen before it says that it is downloading news), and then it says that it cannot connect.2010-04-27 10:55:00

Author:
amazingflyingpoo
Posts: 1515

I downloaded it earlier and couldn't access the community moon either, but it seems to be working again now...so far ^^. I love that we get to scale stickers!2010-04-27 11:55:00

Author:
Phalaina
Posts: 181

I went to update it, and It told me I was updated to version 2.04, not .05.

I can't find the Microbombs or eyes either, so that sucks :U

The community moon is telling me I need to update again, but when I try it tells me I have the latest version of the game...


I already thought LBP PSP was bad, and this really isn't helping.		2010-04-27 11:56:00

Author:
Skeggers
Posts: 583

Hmmm, guess the update isn't released on the EU store yet?

It tells me to update to go online, and yet there is no update.

Poor Cambridge, when ever they do anything something ussually goes wrong .

Oh well, it always pays off in the long run. 		2010-04-27 12:04:00

Author:
MattAstr
Posts: 99

I sure hope so, for Cambridge's sake. :U2010-04-27 12:08:00

Author:
Skeggers
Posts: 583

I downloaded it earlier and couldn't access the community moon either, but it seems to be working again now...so far ^^. I love that we get to scale stickers!

Yes! Thanks for this Phalaina! I went and checked and I can also sign on now as well!

I don't know if anyone else noticed this, but there is are now Cool Levels as a search option on the community moon!		2010-04-27 12:11:00

Author:
amazingflyingpoo
Posts: 1515

There's always some connection problems when an update comes out... in future I may just wait 24 hours and get it after the panic dies down

Downloading now...

EDIT: In case anyone missed it, the SELECT button now toggles perspective on/off. An amazing function that actually works better than the PS3 equivalent!		2010-04-27 12:53:00

Author:
Bovrillor
Posts: 309

Yay, It's working in the EU now too.2010-04-27 14:54:00

Author:
Skeggers
Posts: 583

This new features - front view looks very similar as we saw in Crush game on psp. I loved it!2010-04-27 14:59:00

Author:
Domik12
Posts: 838

I can confirm that jetpacks still drift sideways between saves.2010-04-27 15:34:00

Author:
SalieriAAX
Posts: 421

So it's up and working now? I'll check it out as soon as I get home. I'm really excited by microbombs, if they act like I think they will, they'll make AWESOME ammunition.

Also, this site isn't blocked my my school! Yay!		2010-04-27 15:37:00

Author:
Voltergeist
Posts: 1702

Its seems my order for Cherry Pie was delayed, but I've finally got it! Can't wait to test everything out!2010-04-27 16:02:00

Author:
Fastbro
Posts: 1277

Microbombs look pretty useful! Round wheels are great and front view is amazing 2010-04-27 16:05:00

Author:
Bovrillor
Posts: 309

STUPID QUESTION ALERT: What is front view?2010-04-27 16:11:00

Author:
Fastbro
Posts: 1277

STUPID QUESTION ALERT: What is front view?

Motion sickness at the touch of a button.		2010-04-27 16:16:00

Author:
SalieriAAX
Posts: 421

Fastbro, press select in editor mode and look! 2010-04-27 16:20:00

Author:
Domik12
Posts: 838

Wow, that looks really freaky!2010-04-27 16:29:00

Author:
Fastbro
Posts: 1277

To make you feel better Fastbro, I couldn't figure it out either. I'm not sure if it was added to PS3 after I left for China or what, but for some reason I had never hear of this. I could not figure out how to access it on PSP either. It took me forever to realize that I had to push start, then go into SETTINGS, and in there you can toggle it on and off. I agree with Salieri on the motion sickness comment. It is basically instant vertigo on command 2010-04-27 16:29:00

Author:
amazingflyingpoo
Posts: 1515

Ok you can now go online with update .05 but news still has not been updated.2010-04-27 16:32:00

Author:
tominater12
Posts: 87

To make you feel better Fastbro, I couldn't figure it out either. I'm not sure if it was added to PS3 after I left for China or what, but for some reason I had never hear of this. I could not figure out how to access it on PSP either. It took me forever to realize that I had to push start, then go into SETTINGS, and in there you can toggle it on and off. I agree with Salieri on the motion sickness comment. It is basically instant vertigo on command

Poo, as far as I recall, front view has been in the PS3 version since day one.

I could be wrong but it's been there for quite some time now.		2010-04-27 16:42:00

Author:
mnimmo1986
Posts: 552

Poo, as far as I recall, front view has been in the PS3 version since day one.

I could be wrong but it's been there for quite some time now.

NOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooo........... I can't believe that I had completely overlooked this option for 9 months on PS3, and I never even heard about it! Thanks for letting me know Mnimmo, because I was very curious 		2010-04-27 16:55:00

Author:
amazingflyingpoo
Posts: 1515

The eyes are tiny and unresizable D: please let us resize 3D objects Cambridge D: Really cool stuff though, great update.2010-04-27 17:09:00

Author:
Unknown User

NOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooo........... I can't believe that I had completely overlooked this option for 9 months on PS3, and I never even heard about it! Thanks for letting me know Mnimmo, because I was very curious

It's amazing you got your creations so tight without it! I've been praying they'd add this feature to the PSP since day one, it makes life sooooo much easier.

These patch changes have improved so many things, I'm gonna have to go back and overhaul all my work I think...		2010-04-27 17:21:00

Author:
Bovrillor
Posts: 309

mnimmo is it possible that cambridge would ever release level packs by codes? like send a code to a select few, probably by contests or some special events that require some sort of key example cambridge release a new level with a hidden key and when u find it a pop-up appears and u have to confirm ur email address and the first few who find it and confirm their email address get a code to unlock the level pack.2010-04-27 18:06:00

Author:
fatcat1413
Posts: 132

Has anyone noticed the 'purchased levels' option? It's really annoying because it says the Turbo pack, but it says you can download them off the store. I never thought they would include it with the update, but I think they're trying to get everyone to find out about it and buy it when it comes out. The Creator curators name is Robbo, which is quite interesting although that would suggest his a robot and I don't see how that would fit in with the levels we already know about.2010-04-27 19:12:00

Author:
The Forgotten
Posts: 316

The Creator curators name is Robbo, which is quite interesting although that would suggest his a robot and I don't see how that would fit in with the levels we already know about.

Though it does sound like it could be the case, the name does not invariably mean that the curator is a robot.		2010-04-27 19:49:00

Author:
xero
Posts: 2419

Though it does sound like it could be the case, the name does not invariably mean that the curator is a robot.

It could be a nickname for "Robert"....		2010-04-27 19:53:00

Author:
Unknown User

I HAVE JUST SEEN A GLITCH IN THE NEW UPDATE!!!!!!!

it says they are now circles. they are not!!!!

if you selct the brush circle, and not then shape circle and then resize it and make it bigger the brush circle is still 12 sided. BOO. but then again, the 'circle' shape shape IS.

LOL

* :star: *SockFace* :star: *		2010-04-27 21:28:00

Author:
SockFace
Posts: 190

yaaaaay! another free update thx cambridge.2010-04-27 21:49:00

Author:
spok22
Posts: 206

Is it able to get online now? I woudn't know 'cause I've been buisy at school lately. 2010-04-28 00:00:00

Author:
xX-EPIC_MEATWAD-Xx
Posts: 160

Is it able to get online now? I woudn't know 'cause I've been buisy at school lately.

Yes, players are now capable of connecting to the LBP Servers.		2010-04-28 00:28:00

Author:
xero
Posts: 2419

The Creator curators name is Robbo, which is quite interesting although that would suggest his a robot and I don't see how that would fit in with the levels we already know about.

Maybe the Curator's full name is:

"Robbo: The Amzaig DLC Curator That Was Actually Thought Up By Cambridge, And Not A Mm's LBP PS3 DLC Copy!"		2010-04-28 00:59:00

Author:
CyberSora
Posts: 5551

So guys I must ask is the crash bug fixed because I am still kinda scared of working a level and losing it all again.2010-04-28 01:42:00

Author:
tominater12
Posts: 87

I noticed that if you flip an object with stickers on it, some of the stickers disappear.2010-04-28 02:00:00

Author:
ConverseFox
Posts: 2333

So guys I must ask is the crash bug fixed because I am still kinda scared of working a level and losing it all again.

That's why you backup your data.		2010-04-28 03:50:00

Author:
xero
Posts: 2419

Uh srry if this is a stupid question. But what the heck is the Use of the front view tool? It just gets rid of layers?2010-04-28 05:07:00

Author:
spok22
Posts: 206

Uh srry if this is a stupid question. But what the heck is the Use of the front view tool? It just gets rid of layers?Not a stupid question at all.

When I create on the PS3 (which hasn't been in months now) I use front view a lot. A LOT. It's good for making sure layers line up properly. Say for example you want to make a doorway that faces sideways. Even though the front layer and back layer materials that make up the door frame do not touch, you can line them up perfectly using front view. This view is also good for zooming in a bit, particularly on things in the back layer. Mess with it for a while and I'm sure you'll find it useful.		2010-04-28 05:19:00

Author:
Taffey
Posts: 3187

Not a stupid question at all.

When I create on the PS3 (which hasn't been in months now) I use front view a lot. A LOT. It's good for making sure layers line up properly. Say for example you want to make a doorway that faces sideways. Even though the front layer and back layer materials that make up the door frame do not touch, you can line them up perfectly using front view. This view is also good for zooming in a bit, particularly on things in the back layer. Mess with it for a while and I'm sure you'll find it useful.
In addition, removing the perspective of the 3D world can make it possible to corner edit with amazing accuracy.		2010-04-28 06:05:00

Author:
xero
Posts: 2419

mnimmo is it possible that cambridge would ever release level packs by codes? like send a code to a select few, probably by contests or some special events that require some sort of key example cambridge release a new level with a hidden key and when u find it a pop-up appears and u have to confirm ur email address and the first few who find it and confirm their email address get a code to unlock the level pack.
As with anything on the store, Sony can generate a code for it, however it's highly unlikely they would be given out this way if they ever did.

It would be all to easy to find the key and then share it's location.


Has anyone noticed the 'purchased levels' option? It's really annoying because it says the Turbo pack, but it says you can download them off the store. I never thought they would include it with the update.

That's how it's always been with DLC data.
Whether you buy the DLC or not all past and present DLC is sitting there in your PSP.
DLC data can be added weeks before the actual DLC (basically just an unlock code (see below for descripton)) is released on the store.

Think of it like this. A corridor full of rooms. In those rooms are each of the DLC's available, but are locked by big glass doors. You can see them, but unless you own the key to access the DLC (buying it off the store), that's all you can do is view them (playing levels that contain that DLC).
In the case of an update with more DLC, it's a case of adding an extra room on the end of that corridor with that DLC in there.
(I hope that made sense).

I mean how else is the game supposed to load a level that has DLC in it if it doesn't know how to load it because the data isn't there.

Why do you think you always have to have the latest update to use the community moon?		2010-04-28 06:56:00

Author:
mnimmo1986
Posts: 552

That's how it's always been with DLC data.
Whether you buy the DLC or not all past and present DLC is sitting there in your PSP.
DLC data can be added weeks before the actual DLC (basically just an unlock code (see below for descripton)) is released on the store.

Think of it like this. A corridor full of rooms. In those rooms are each of the DLC's available, but are locked by big glass doors. You can see them, but unless you own the key to access the DLC (buying it off the store), that's all you can do is view them (playing levels that contain that DLC).
In the case of an update with more DLC, it's a case of adding an extra room on the end of that corridor with that DLC in there.
(I hope that made sense).

Always? Not quite... In fact, most games do not have the data included with the game, even via update. If this was the case, any game's DLC size would be negligible, and take nearly no time at all to download after purchase.


I mean how else is the game supposed to load a level that has DLC in it if it doesn't know how to load it because the data isn't there.

You have a good point there, but to answer this question we must first understand how level data works (which is difficult, since it's encrypted into an unreadable format by any known program except LBP itself). In most cases like these, only what's needed is downloaded to your PSP, i.e. only the objects featured in any given level. This data is stored in the level file itself, and recalled when the level loads.

To clarify my meaning, let's look at a hypothetical online FPS game as an example. Say someone has set up a server with custom sound files for when someone gets double kills, kill streaks, etc., that are different from the stock sounds. You don't need to have these sounds on your computer initially for it to work, because while connecting to the server it downloads all custom files to your game's folder. I would assume LBP is the same way. It might treat DLC items as custom objects created by the user (even though they're not), and download them as needed.


Why do you think you always have to have the latest update to use the community moon? Actually, I think this is more of a question of submitting outdated content to the community moon. Either that or it's that way just to ensure you have the update... and why not? If you can connect to the internet to download levels etc. you can clearly download the update.

This is only my deduction, which all revolves around the DLC file size and download time issue. As mentioned before, if all the "download" was is an unlocking of data already located on your PSP, all DLCs would have very small file sizes and take only a few seconds to download, if that (since they'd only be a few lines of code, nothing more). But then again, you may be right. LBP may operate in the way you said. However, my point is most games' DLC does not.		2010-04-28 07:56:00

Author:
xero
Posts: 2419

So guys I must ask is the crash bug fixed because I am still kinda scared of working a level and losing it all again.

As well as backing up data using media go, I suggest doing this:

For each level you're making, use several save slots (I personally use an entire 'crater' for each level I'm making). Every 30 mins I save and copy my file, naming them 1.1, 1.2, 1.3 etc... If one breaks, I can go back to the last one and only lose half an hour's work. Life saver.		2010-04-28 09:13:00

Author:
Bovrillor
Posts: 309

I personally use an entire 'crater' for each level I'm making.

Funny, I do the exact same thing. If there's a level slot in the dead center of the crater surrounded by several more (as was the case with my Akira bike entry for the YWMTMW? contest), I use that as my original, and surround it with the backups.		2010-04-28 09:19:00

Author:
xero
Posts: 2419

Awesome new update! Cambridge does listen to what we say and ask for. You just gotta give them time.2010-04-28 10:53:00

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TheNerd
Posts: 840

Always? Not quite... In fact, most games do not have the data included with the game, even via update. If this was the case, any game's DLC size would be negligible, and take nearly no time at all to download after purchase.

I am not, and was never talking about how other games decides to utilise the updates.
I were talking about how the updates work in LBP.

Now that you bring it up though Burnout Paradise was the same. All updates included the data and all you downloaded (when buying the DLC off the store) was an unlock file.


This data is stored in the level file itself, and recalled when the level loads.

We can argue all day over this, but no one knows for sure.

However with the levels being so small in size when downloaded, I hardly think they actually included the data needed for you to play them. Since the updates themselves that included the DLC data are around MB's in size rather than KB's like the levels.

Hence why you have to have the latest update to get the levels in the first place off the server, since the file you download gets the data it needs to run from the updated files that are already on your PSP.		2010-04-28 12:37:00

Author:
mnimmo1986
Posts: 552

mnimmo have u ever "made" a computer game or anything? the reason i ask this is because u know "alot" more than i thought u would and its making me wonder if ur a developer of a game or 2.2010-04-28 15:48:00

Author:
fatcat1413
Posts: 132

mnimmo have u ever "made" a computer game or anything? the reason i ask this is because u know "alot" more than i thought u would and its making me wonder if ur a developer of a game or 2.

I don't know if he has, but just because he knows a lot doesn't mean he has. But don't get me wrong, he very well may have.

Ignore the upcoming randomness below:


100th POST!!!!! 		2010-04-28 16:06:00

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mnimmo have u ever "made" a computer game or anything? the reason i ask this is because u know "alot" more than i thought u would and its making me wonder if ur a developer of a game or 2.

I'm pretty sure mnimmo's assumptions about the DLC are correct... I've been involved with the production of several videogames though admittedly none of them featured DLC (this was some time ago!)		2010-04-28 16:28:00

Author:
Bovrillor
Posts: 309

mnimmo have u ever "made" a computer game or anything? the reason i ask this is because u know "alot" more than i thought u would and its making me wonder if ur a developer of a game or 2.


I don't know if he has, but just because he knows a lot doesn't mean he has. But don't get me wrong, he very well may have.

I haven't made a game, no.
Just observations really of why the DLC is always smaller than that of the actual "updates" (and other tidbits of info I've read in the past).

The other analogy about the rooms was just something I used a while ago to describe how the DLC works since people were asking why, if they are adding the DLC before they update the store why could they not "get at it".

I don't guarantee that it's all 100% fact, since I can't. But it's how I believe the DLC/Updates work and I stand by my words.
Of course, if I'm proved to be wrong, or someone challenges my ideas, well they are welcome to. Who knows, it may bring more insight to the topic since the idea they have may be coming from another angle. (As is in the case of the big reply from xero).		2010-04-28 16:45:00

Author:
mnimmo1986
Posts: 552

I sort of found a glitch by accident. It's only useful when you want to make stickers really small for detail. If you make all the stickers really big, then make the object that it's on smaller, then the stickers can get far smaller then it normally lets you. It's not that useful, but it can be useful for small detail.2010-04-28 20:09:00

Author:
The Forgotten
Posts: 316

Wow, so all this would then explain why downloading DLC takes about five seconds? It always goes super fast. Huh, this is annoying that me and the people I know don't have expertise about hacking PSPs, as now I'm curious about how we could steal DLC. Oh well.

Anyways, I like this update a LOT. Micro bombs will be a major help in making cool explosion effects, and though I might have not realized it if not for Taffey's post, front view will be helpful, and more than just a motion sickness button. I might find some fun uses for magic eyes too.

Pressing select,
B3		2010-04-28 20:27:00

Author:
Voltergeist
Posts: 1702

I sort of found a glitch by accident. It's only useful when you want to make stickers really small for detail. If you make all the stickers really big, then make the object that it's on smaller, then the stickers can get far smaller then it normally lets you. It's not that useful, but it can be useful for small detail.That's huge! There are many stickers I wish I could make smaller, so I will definitely be using this "feature".2010-04-28 20:41:00

Author:
Taffey
Posts: 3187

I am not, and was never talking about how other games decides to utilise the updates.
I were talking about how the updates work in LBP.

Now that you bring it up though Burnout Paradise was the same. All updates included the data and all you downloaded (when buying the DLC off the store) was an unlock file.



We can argue all day over this, but no one knows for sure.

Haha no worries, I had no intention of arguing.


However with the levels being so small in size when downloaded, I hardly think they actually included the data needed for you to play them. Since the updates themselves that included the DLC data are around MB's in size rather than KB's like the levels.

Hence why you have to have the latest update to get the levels in the first place off the server, since the file you download gets the data it needs to run from the updated files that are already on your PSP.
As I mentioned, it was merely my speculation. I have never downloaded any of the packs for LBP PSP, so I was unaware of their file size or download times. My comments were based on past experience with data management, as I have absolutely no experience with LBP's systems or data. I wouldn't doubt it if you were 100% right about everything, in fact.		2010-04-28 20:53:00

Author:
xero
Posts: 2419

I sort of found a glitch by accident. It's only useful when you want to make stickers really small for detail. If you make all the stickers really big, then make the object that it's on smaller, then the stickers can get far smaller then it normally lets you. It's not that useful, but it can be useful for small detail.

This is amazingly useful. I can use this for so many things... thank you for sharing this tasty tidbit! I intend to use this for my current YWMTMW? (https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=25818--YWMTMW-Round-3-The-Next-Breakthrough-Video-Game-**Entries-Due-May-14**) contest entry!


mnimmo have u ever "made" a computer game or anything? the reason i ask this is because u know "alot" more than i thought u would and its making me wonder if ur a developer of a game or 2.

I have... but all games are different, so it really doesn't matter.		2010-04-28 21:03:00

Author:
xero
Posts: 2419

the piston glitch could quite useful but i have to figure out something for that particular glitch `XD2010-04-28 21:16:00

Author:
fatcat1413
Posts: 132

I don't know if this has been mentioned already or not, but did anyone else notice that the "Downloaded Levels" page is now a lot more structured? Before the levels were just clumped into place, now they're spaced evenly around LittleBIGPlanet™'s landmasses.2010-05-01 20:50:00

Author:
xero
Posts: 2419

Yay for Cherry Pie!!!
I have awaited for that flipping of objects for a loooooooooooooooooong time, along with some of the other functions. Yay!!!		2010-05-03 15:17:00

Author:
moonwire
Posts: 1627

so....whats the deal with purchased levels?2010-05-05 13:29:00

Author:
Lilman1101
Posts: 91

so....whats the deal with purchased levels?

you purchase levels. The turbo pack isnt on store yet D:		2010-05-05 17:36:00

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