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Big discovery? Maybe?

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Ok,so...I've been working on the 3d layer glitch a lot since my last inquiry here (for all 1 of you who remember me LOL)
& I think I made a big breakthrough i've not seen anywhere else. (to my knowledge)


But before going through the trouble of posting in the "Tutorials" section which may become a long post,
I wanted to know if the topic of moving objects in the background glitch layers has come up before?
I used the search function & did some ol' fashion browsing but to my absolute shock-Nothing! :eek:

My idea certainly has limitations so dont get TOO excited but anyways..

I find it mind boggling that with all the masterminds & crazy designers here that noones figured it out?
Am I overlooking a thread or this worth sharing? :blush:
2010-04-26 00:58:00

Author:
Unknown User


You can use emitters to move anything into any layer. I'm not sure if there's a thread somewhere, although I'm sure there is.



Edit: Here you go! (https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=18254-Layer-Glitch-FAQ-Get-the-most-out-of-your-custom-backgrounds-foregrounds)
2010-04-26 01:00:00

Author:
comphermc
Posts: 5338


It's possible, yes, but if it touches water your PS3 gets in a car accident.

Not true. Have you played Luos's levels?
2010-04-26 01:02:00

Author:
comphermc
Posts: 5338


Not true. Have you played Luos's levels?

Aya's layer glitch thread and several other sources say that underwater layer glitch usage causes freezing, but I've seen levels with underwater use of the layer glitch. I'm confused. Maybe it has to do with glueing?
2010-04-26 04:49:00

Author:
Incinerator22
Posts: 3251


Aya's layer glitch thread and several other sources say that underwater layer glitch usage causes freezing, but I've seen levels with underwater use of the layer glitch. I'm confused. Maybe it has to do with glueing?
I think it has something with the object hitting the water.
2010-04-26 04:56:00

Author:
warlord_evil
Posts: 4193


Not true as far as i know (water + layer glitch = freeze), i've experimented and tried to do this many times in many ways, but couldn't get it to freeze my PS3, i've also seem many level with layer glitch underwater (as a matter of fact, one of my future levels will have something like that too )

So as far as i know, no its not true.
2010-04-26 05:28:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707


Not true as far as i know (water + layer glitch = freeze), i've experimented and tried to do this many times in many ways, but couldn't get it to freeze my PS3, i've also seem many level with layer glitch underwater (as a matter of fact, one of my future levels will have something like that too )

So as far as i know, no its not true.

You actually tried to freeze your PS3? lol. Have you tried dropping a piece into the water from high up in the air?
2010-04-26 06:02:00

Author:
Incinerator22
Posts: 3251


You actually tried to freeze your PS3? lol. Have you tried dropping a piece into the water from high up in the air?

Wll i do like to explore and exploit any and all glitches possible, believe me, i have ad my PS3 freeze on purpoze many times before.
(Not to mention the times i've corrupted my data >_>)
I'm sort of a glitch hunter (for most games, not just LBP)
lol, ironically enough i've never been able to get into any BETA...

Anwho, yes i tried that, i tried gueing 2 together above water and dropping them too, and glueing them underwater, i tried the same, but glueing them to non-3D glitched object, i tried repeditaely submerging and taking ot the object from and into the water, etc.

Yeah, i've tried a lot of things and none worked.
2010-04-26 06:43:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707


I wanted to know if the topic of moving objects in the background glitch layers has come up before?


You can use emitters to move anything into any layer. .

The question was moving objects in the background layers, rather than moving them into the background layers I believe. That thread vaguely covers it: You can move objects in the background layers but they can't overlap as they all exist in the same collision space.
2010-04-26 10:57:00

Author:
rtm223
Posts: 6497


LOL,boy oh boy did this threat side-track quickly.

I thank you all for your replies particularly,comphermc.
But i've actually read that whole thing before.

There actually seems to be a bit of a miscommunication & i think I see where.
I actually was not referring to moving objects INTO those layers but rather moving them once there already there.

Perhaps I should have placed my (yet to be) tutorial in the first place. lol
My bad...Its a bit late so it'll have to wait till at least tomorrow when i have more time but ive managed to make a few successful (albeit delicate) devices that can move objects around back there.

Ironically i asked this becuse I didnt want to make a pointless thread if it had already been explained elsewhere but I
suppose that was a silly logic. :blush:

On a sidenote in regards to the water thing (however that came up) I actually initially designed my device to sink ships
I made in the background of a yet to be published level im working on so i happen to know first hand that its highly unlikely that it'll freeze.
What did seem to cause a certain amount of instability was dropping objects that could sink past the border of the level.

Sorry for the confusion guys.I'll get back to you all as soon I get chance.
But for now-sleep time.
2010-04-26 10:58:00

Author:
Unknown User


The question was moving objects in the background layers, rather than moving them into the background layers I believe. That thread vaguely covers it: You can move objects in the background layers but they can't overlap as they all exist in the same collision space.

LMAO-what timing!
You got it precisely right.

But as stated in my other post I really ought to be off to bed. ^^;;;;
Sorry again.I see you all soon.
2010-04-26 11:01:00

Author:
Unknown User


Oh! I see!

Yes, it has been brought up before, but I'm not sure there is a thread specifically about it. In fact, rtm up there found a way to make motor bolts work in the background...
2010-04-26 13:04:00

Author:
comphermc
Posts: 5338


Aya's layer glitch thread and several other sources say that underwater layer glitch usage causes freezing, but I've seen levels with underwater use of the layer glitch. I'm confused. Maybe it has to do with glueing?

I've just updated my post to sound somewhat less paranoid, after conducting my more recent experiments. It now reads:-


Dynamic objects which occupy both the foreground and background glitch layers at the same time also have a tendency to completely crash the PS3 when they come into contact with water, so make sure they're held down with dark matter if you intend to use them underwater. See this post (https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=25147-Does-the-layer-glitch-work-on-water&p=435589#post435589) for more info.

Although I wasn't able to completely nail down the exact criteria for crashing the PS3, I was able to reproduce the crash quite consistently with a little messing around.
2010-04-26 19:31:00

Author:
Aya042
Posts: 2870


Although I wasn't able to completely nail down the exact criteria for crashing the PS3, I was able to reproduce the crash quite consistently with a little messing around.

Oh, thanks. It must not be easy to do tests that involve system crashing, so I thank you and commend you!
2010-04-29 05:16:00

Author:
Incinerator22
Posts: 3251


Hey-Sorry for not posting for so long idk if ill be around like i planned on.My grandparents abruptly stopped paying for our internet bills without telling me anything.
I dont have a job yet so i havnt had any way of posting online or....doing anything internet related really.

If it stays up Ill get back to everything when i can but im kinda rushing to leave explanations in a couple of places cuz I have no idea if my internet is going to stay up...idk even know why its back...were not paying for it again to my knowledge.

Anyways,felt I owed everyone at least a quick explaination. ; ;
Im really sorry.

Im actually fairly sick too (when it rains it pours,eh?) so i gotta get to the last of my messages & go lay lay back down.
Take care everyone.
2010-05-09 03:38:00

Author:
Unknown User


Ok-first off-I deeply apologize for double posting.

Second,I was just about to finally cut to the chase & post my tutorial when i realized that I can't for the life of me
figure out how to upload pictures from my ps3.
Ever time I click the button to upload them it redirects me to the forums.

Is the system down at the moment?
Becuse ive done it before & i recall it being rather easy to do.

If lbpc is having problems I suppose I can proceed to post it as a text-only guide but I always preferred a
visual aspect to these sort of things.

Sorry agian & a big thanks to anyone who knows whats going on. :blush:
2010-05-12 01:47:00

Author:
Unknown User


Is the system down at the moment?

There are seemingly some issues with image uploading at the moment, although we're not entirely sure what the problems are, and how many people they're affecting. You might find using a different web browser (if possible) might yield more success.

Otherwise, you might have to use a third-party image hosting service, and embed the images by linking to them there.
2010-05-12 13:34:00

Author:
Aya042
Posts: 2870


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