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MGS pack vs Pirates of the caribbean

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Everyone is has an opinion whats yours. During this years we have seen some pretty cool level pack but the 2 best are the MGS pack and the Pirates of the Caribbean pack but only one can come out on top. From the Metal Gear Solid Premium Level Pack it filled out pop-it with a ton of ?Create? materials, objects and stickers, our Premium Level Packs introduce that and a whole lot more from the Gurlokovich Soldier to the 72 materials, 12 decorations, and 18 objects and more. But lets not forget about Pirates of the Caribbean Premium Level Pack the incredible story line the amazing stickers and the really creative boss battle makes this DLC a must buy for little big planet fan everywhere. Only one can come out on top.

Remember to respect everyone's opinion


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2010-04-11 17:18:00

Author:
Arnald23
Posts: 1843


Hmmm.. well I never really liked pirates of the caribbean, so maybe my opinion is a bit biased. I for one preferred the MGS pack, as it brought loads of cool materials and gadgets previously unseen by the world of LBP! In the pirates pack, really the only revolutionary thing was the water - which was awesome btw. I personally think it would've been better to just release a water pack with no story-line, as all the PotC gave us apart from water was a few materials that could be imitated with stickers and blue wood! Maybe that's just me..2010-04-11 17:48:00

Author:
Keanster96
Posts: 1436


I liked the MGS levels better and some of the materials (stone) were nice and useful for the levels I like making. The PotC had more useful music though and some good materials as well, plus a few stickers and objects that came in handy quite often.2010-04-11 17:55:00

Author:
Syroc
Posts: 3193


For me, the MGS pack. It came with tons of new materials, the paintinator, and many stickers and decorations. As Keanster96 said, Mm should just released a water pack and exclude it from the POTC pack.2010-04-11 17:56:00

Author:
Phosphorus15
Posts: 463


I don't really know, both are great.
If I have to choose one I'll say MGS because the levels offered more challenge.
But then again, I prefer water over the paintinator.
I voted both, they are not equally good but neither one is better Does that even make sense?
2010-04-11 17:59:00

Author:
napero7
Posts: 1653


Mmm tough one.

Both are good for different reasons. If the POTC pack had come with a new weapon akin to the MGS pack's paintinator it would have been a clearcut victory for POTC but the fact it didn't makes it a close call.

I actually used both packs for my new level but if I could have only used 1 of the packs then it would have to have been POTC simply because of the water, therefore POTC still wins for me overall.
2010-04-11 18:05:00

Author:
mistervista
Posts: 2210


I love the MGS pack better but I also like Pirates of the Caribbean because of the water. I made the thread and is hard for me to decide lol 2010-04-11 18:23:00

Author:
Arnald23
Posts: 1843


Hard to choose whether I prefer the Paintinator or Water as a gameplay mechanic, though I haven't experimented with the latter as much as the former either.

The single-player campaign for both are not incredibly remarkable; I liked the level design of the PotC more then the MGS one as it captured the feel of the movies (which emphasized a whimsical adventure) more then the MGS one captured the feel of the games (which emphasized stealth action). On the other hand I find the final battle with Metal Gear to be more fun then the Kraken. Both are easy (the Kraken especially if you realize you can just disarm the first ships without destroying them and completely ignore them for the rest of the fight) but Metal Gear I place slightly ahead because it comes off as more intricately built and has more variety in it's attacks.

Costumes I really can't judge well as I actually don't have any of the PotC ones other then the Pelagrosso while I have all of the MGS ones.

So the deciding vote is made by the materials, stickers and decorations and for me MGS wins as I find I end up using them a lot more often even when I'm just experimenting. I also like the soundtracks more.
2010-04-11 18:23:00

Author:
Dapiek Absaroka
Posts: 512


Hard to choose whether I prefer the Paintinator or Water as a gameplay mechanic, though I haven't experimented with the latter as much as the former either.

The single-player campaign for both are not incredibly remarkable; I liked the level design of the PotC more then the MGS one as it captured the feel of the movies (which emphasized a whimsical adventure) more then the MGS one captured the feel of the games (which emphasized stealth action). On the other hand I find the final battle with Metal Gear to be more fun then the Kraken. Both are easy (the Kraken especially if you realize you can just disarm the first ships without destroying them and completely ignore them for the rest of the fight) but Metal Gear I place slightly ahead because it comes off as more intricately built and has more variety in it's attacks.

Costumes I really can't judge well as I actually don't have any of the PotC ones other then the Pelagrosso while I have all of the MGS ones.

So the deciding vote is made by the materials, stickers and decorations and for me MGS wins as I find I end up using them a lot more often even when I'm just experimenting. I also like the soundtracks more.

I agreed man but I still like the pirates
2010-04-11 18:35:00

Author:
Arnald23
Posts: 1843


Definitely hard to choose but I found that the inclusion of water implements a little bit more smoothly with the game mechanics. It opens up to more possibilities with puzzles etc. over the paintinator.

I love the fact that MGS adds more to the combat aspect to the game; but for me personally, it takes away my attention from what LBP does best. I believe melee combat would fit in more as your still focusing on the space around your character and not focusing too much on the target.

While I'm more of a fan of MGS than PotC, I found that the PotC pack included more content that I could use in my own level designs (prefer fantasy over sci-fi), so that's why it gets my vote.
2010-04-11 18:48:00

Author:
InfinityBound
Posts: 21


MGS Pack is my opinion.

- Better made (less sticker more built stuff)

-Boss at the end of pack way more complex and looks better.

-While PoTC Introduced only water and stuff related to water only (need water to be useful) MGS pack introduced the 2 most used and popular features so far, Plasma ball, and most imporantly Paintnator/ Paint switch, giving us the opportunity of more complicated and long range puzzles and more ways to make enemies/ beat them(Paintnator/ Paint switch), more ways to make traps, enemy attack, and made possible the "Pass through matter" glitch (Plasma Ball)

So yeah, while PotC pack was cool and all, it didn't bring so many essential features.
Water is great, don't get me wrong, just that that's the only feature, and not AS useful as the other 2 from MGS together.

Based on those reasonsm i say MGS Pack.

And i know i voted PotC up there, but it was an accident, meant i meant MGS ok?! >_>)
2010-04-11 19:22:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707


Well clearly you never see levels on cool pages called "REaL PAINTUNATERz!!1!!!" so obviously PotC wins.

Seriously. I prefered Pirates of the Caribbean simply because it's materials and music were more versatile.
I prefer platforming wet or dry to shooting stuff.

@Silverleon- Global lighting came later in Creator pack 1, not mgs pack.
2010-04-11 19:23:00

Author:
KQuinn94Z
Posts: 1758


@Silverleon- Global lighting came later in Creator pack 1, not mgs pack.
That's right but it was used in the MGS pack so it kinda had that... although we had to wait for a very long time to use it.
2010-04-11 19:32:00

Author:
napero7
Posts: 1653


Well clearly you never see levels on cool pages called "REaL PAINTUNATERz!!1!!!" so obviously PotC wins.

Seriously. I prefered Pirates of the Caribbean simply because it's materials and music were more versatile.
I prefer platforming wet or dry to shooting stuff.

@Silverleon- Global lighting came later in Creator pack 1, not mgs pack.

lol, oh right, it did...

I'll be editing my post then

Oh about the other thing, well people had never expected the paintnator, water got that reaction because people were asking for it for a long time, people never asked for the peintnator, it was just an awesmoe feature that suddendly appeard.

And you are wrong on that other thing too tho, people DID put things like "Now with Paintnator" and "With paintgun" like they use "With real water" now.

Oh and to the 1st poster!
Why did you make the poll "Public" if you're gonna hide the results?!
Seriously...
2010-04-11 19:56:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707


I enjoyed PoTC more. For starters, pirates actually fits into Mm's distinct style. Rather than trying to create a gritty war atmoshere, they created a colourful adventure. The visuals in both were good, but the PoTC pack was more detailed and colourful.

As for gameplay, the MGS pack was bland. It was all "Shoot this to activate this" ect... The PoTC pack had funner gameplay, more variety, and was longer. The MGS boss was better than the PoTC boss however.

In terms of the content, I liked both equally. Both had good materials, good music, and good gameplay elements.
2010-04-11 19:56:00

Author:
bonner123
Posts: 1487


Well clearly you never see levels on cool pages called "REaL PAINTUNATERz!!1!!!"

...so you're basing your opinion on the opinions people who get on the cool pages.... Yeah that's not a good place to source your argument lol. I can see what you're saying, especially about the platforming > shoot 'em ups tho, but wasn't there any level on cool pages boasting a paintinator when the MGS pack was released?? (IDK coz i got lbp mid 2009)
2010-04-11 20:03:00

Author:
Keanster96
Posts: 1436


He's hiding the result until a certain time where there will be a verdict.

Edit: @Keanster: /jk
2010-04-11 20:06:00

Author:
KQuinn94Z
Posts: 1758


Both great, Pirates has water, MGS has the paint gizmos, but personally, stuff like the Spotlight, Plasma hazards, and the sounds of the MGS pack swing it their way for me 2010-04-11 20:22:00

Author:
Matimoo
Posts: 1027


this is like choosing between what type of ice cream is better marshmallow chocolate swirl or strawberry vanilla...their both good and they both have their ups and downs so...idk 2010-04-11 20:23:00

Author:
wolverine_2008
Posts: 304


He's hiding the result until a certain time where there will be a verdict.

Edit: @Keanster: /jk

in my poll I put zero so it never closes
2010-04-11 20:33:00

Author:
Arnald23
Posts: 1843


in my poll I put zero so it never closes

Unless a moderator locks the thread...
2010-04-11 20:36:00

Author:
Doopz
Posts: 5592


I'm gonna ignore the Water vs. paintanaor
But i say the POTC pack won me over with the costumes
2010-04-11 20:37:00

Author:
Joshofsouls
Posts: 1569


this is like choosing between what type of ice cream is better marshmallow chocolate swirl or strawberry vanilla...their both good and they both have their ups and downs so...idk

mmmmmmmmm that sounds good right about now lol XD
2010-04-11 20:59:00

Author:
Arnald23
Posts: 1843


Unless a moderator locks the thread...

but please I dont want them to lock it is just peoples opinion
2010-04-11 21:00:00

Author:
Arnald23
Posts: 1843


right now the score is 15 for Pirates of the Caribbean and 11 for MGS later it will change2010-04-11 21:57:00

Author:
Arnald23
Posts: 1843


but please I dont want them to lock it is just peoples opinion

Huh? I didn't say it was going to be locked. I just said that IF a moderator locked it, we would see the results.

And don't triple post .

Also, POTC was the best, it had REEL WORTOR!!11one!! That jokes been used way too much hasn't it?
2010-04-11 22:02:00

Author:
Doopz
Posts: 5592


Huh? I didn't say it was going to be locked. I just said that IF a moderator locked it, we would see the results.

And don't triple post .

Also, POTC was the best, it had REEL WORTOR!!11one!! That jokes been used way too much hasn't it?

Thanks 4 the device dude
2010-04-11 22:41:00

Author:
Arnald23
Posts: 1843


MGS, 'cause it made combat.2010-04-11 23:39:00

Author:
JspOt
Posts: 3607


Absolutely, definately MGS. I like the water.... but come on! Paintinator action! Plasmas! The spotlight! Blam! Kappow!!! MGS totally changed the face of LittleBigPlanet, and still creates some of the best action today. and without MGS, there would be no Splat Invaders..... which would be a shame....



Seriously. I prefered Pirates of the Caribbean simply because it's materials and music were more versatile. I prefer platforming wet or dry to shooting stuff.
Idiot.....


(I'm kidding of course... see Consideration thread for why this was completely inappropriate...)
2010-04-12 00:05:00

Author:
CCubbage
Posts: 4430


Idiot.....


lol.....Anyhow, my vote goes to Pirates of the Caribbean. I just never got into the paintinator that much. I'll take a scenic/platforming level over a run and gun level anyday.
2010-04-12 01:05:00

Author:
Silverpanther
Posts: 156


I don't like the paintinator. Water is okay but doesn't really change my life.

I'd have to go with Pirates because the materials are more useful and pirates are **** cool.
2010-04-12 04:33:00

Author:
monstahr
Posts: 1361


I can't decide on either one. I love BOTH...

With the MGS pack, I get the Paintinator (which is SOO outlaw-ish) and a challenging, rewarding experience through the Middle East another method of torture: plasma balls.

But with the PoTC pack, I get waters (mastah swimmer here) and a brilliant, colorful devotion to one of my favorite movie series. Oh, and another method of torture: drowning.

So... it's sorta split for me. (Imagine... plasmafied Chinese water-torture xD)
2010-04-12 06:00:00

Author:
Outlaw-Jack
Posts: 5757


I think that the Metal Gear Solid Pack is more useful for creating, the yellow metal and the cardboard that looks like metal materials from the MGS pack are very unique and are probably the only Sci-fi/Military looking materials... very useful.
Plus The Plasma, sensor light, 0.0 speed emitter, laser, missiles, paint gun and paint switch... oh, and the MGS sounds are really good too...theres a lot to play with in there.

The Pirates of The Caribbean only really has water going for it, I do like the wood materials that come with it, and the building stickers… that’s pretty much it though.

Believe it or not though... I voted for PoTC, lol.
Just because playing the levels were so much fun, I enjoyed the actual levels far more then the MGS ones. I think they done a good job with em.
2010-04-12 14:37:00

Author:
oLMCo
Posts: 96


Personally I prefer the MGS pack because I think the paintinator is a bit more revoloutionary than water (which is a bit overrated). Plus, the MGS pack itself was way better, the story levels are regarded by many as the best MM levels (wheras many people think the POTC were the worst), the materials were very new and awesome (the POTC didn't have many goodn's apart from sand), the stickers were awesome (not many good ones in POTC), and it probably a more popular franchise with most people.2010-04-12 14:37:00

Author:
Fallonjam
Posts: 29


Paintinator
Plasma
Spotlight


versus:


Water


I'd go with MGS. I'd go so far as to say half of MGS is as good as water. Materials, stickers, music, sound, and backgrounds: these are features. But things that completely shape the way games are made are what makes a pack the most important, in my opinion. Gameplay-wise, water is air you can swim in. It has other useful features such as layer-shifting blocks, the ability to put out fire, and the new hazard of drowning, but that's about it. A spotlight is useful for stealth levels and is stricter than sensor switches in that it can sense your layer. Plasma is a much more game-changing hazard than water because it can be attached to other materials, float freely, or be flung with emmiters. It can also be delethalized and changed into fire or electricity. Last but not least, the paintinator is like an extension of your player. It can reach where sackboy can't go, provide extra force, be linked with paint switches for tactical assertion, and more.
2010-04-12 21:31:00

Author:
Incinerator22
Posts: 3251


MGS
nuff said
2010-04-12 21:43:00

Author:
Alec
Posts: 3871


Oh, I think what really does it for me is the Pirates music. It's not actual music from the movies, I think, but it's epic nonetheless.

Am I the only one who thought neither of the level packs' levels were that hot? If I had to pick one it would be pirates due to visual appeal I think but yeah..
2010-04-12 23:31:00

Author:
monstahr
Posts: 1361


theyre both so goooooood but I'll get pirates once I get the psn card2010-04-13 16:41:00

Author:
jonlolz
Posts: 155


I liked MGS more
MGS:
Action
Paintinator
Plasma balls
Awesome boss fight
Great military stickers
Stealth

POTC:
water
2010-04-14 02:34:00

Author:
cheesemuffins99
Posts: 102


Well, both the Metal Gear Solid Pack and the Pirates of the Caribbean Pack are good in their own special way, but I must say that the Pirates Pack was not only one that I enjoyed more, but one that fit the atmosphere and style of LittleBigPlanet a bit better.2010-04-14 03:05:00

Author:
RJA00000
Posts: 387


Incredible right now MGS solid is winning lol by one vote 2010-04-14 21:38:00

Author:
Arnald23
Posts: 1843


I prefer MGS, as a MGS fan, I loved that they made a level pack about this amazing series.
I voted for MGS because of the content and the quality of it.
2010-04-14 22:43:00

Author:
Chump
Posts: 1712


I prefered MGS by a long shot - not only were the levels better, but the paintinator added loads more potential to the LBP community. I can live without the water - most of the levels using it suck, the story levels weren't all that great (I was actually disappointed by it).2010-04-14 23:31:00

Author:
standby250
Posts: 1113


I'm with the POTC. Both paintinator and water add much to the gameplay, but water does also add much to the visuals; you can make really beautiful things with it.
Besides, pirates win over everything!
2010-04-14 23:51:00

Author:
Keldur
Posts: 628


I'm with the POTC. Both paintinator and water add much to the gameplay, but water does also add much to the visuals; you can make really beautiful things with it.
Besides, pirates win over everything!
PLUS swimming in water is one of the few things you can do successfully in LittleBigPlanet while sleeping.
2010-04-15 00:46:00

Author:
CCubbage
Posts: 4430


PLUS swimming in water is one of the few things you can do successfully in LittleBigPlanet while sleeping.

Could that have been a more epic comment? I doubt it

Anywho, I vote for MGS.
The war levels were certainly my favorite Mm levels, and the PotC were my least favorite.

Water is sluggish, to say the least, and adds very little platforming element that you couldn't have done with a jetpack. The paintinator, however, adds an entirely new element that could not have been made in LBP beforehand.

MGS has some awesome sci-fi materials, and the middle eastern stone/relief are my favorite materials.
PotC has wooden planks (which you could make on your own with some patience) and sand (which there already is).

MGS also added a new switch type, and a new hazard, which PotC had neither of.

My point has been made.
2010-04-15 01:28:00

Author:
nitewalker11
Posts: 222


MGS also added a new switch type, and a new hazard, which PotC had neither of.


There's water switches and global water switches, and the hazard of drowning.
2010-04-15 03:40:00

Author:
Incinerator22
Posts: 3251


PLUS swimming in water is one of the few things you can do successfully in LittleBigPlanet while sleeping.
Indeed! Whenever I need to take a nap, I play your Sea Dragon

...Ok, you don't technically swim in that one but I couldnt think of another lvl of you with water. C'mon, I needed to spit out that pun!
2010-04-15 12:59:00

Author:
Keldur
Posts: 628


New data MGS has 29 votes and POTC has 25 votes2010-04-16 21:32:00

Author:
Arnald23
Posts: 1843


I like PoTC the best. I did like the paintnor when it came out, and the new switches and amteriels haelp with creating bosses, but water was like a whole new LBP for me.2010-04-18 15:12:00

Author:
Schwem00
Posts: 255


I like the PoTC pack a lot better than the MGS pack. The reason behind this is that I find the MGS levels and costumes to be bland when compared to what PoTC offers.2010-04-20 04:59:00

Author:
xKaijudox
Posts: 32


incredible the MGS pack won lol 2010-05-30 17:39:00

Author:
Arnald23
Posts: 1843


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