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I just spent several hours perusing LBPC threads and numerous sites on the Internet regarding the following questions, but have not found a definitive answer, and I'm hoping someone here knows the answer or a site I could check that has the answer. Question: Can I create a duplicate account (RickRock_777 in this case) on a second PS3 that will be recognized on PSN? My intent for wanting to do this is so my wife and I can online create, rather than trying to build together looking at a single TV, as we have to stay in close proximity all the time, which makes it very difficult. I also want to make sure everything I create on the new PS3 can be published to my RickRock_777 map on PSN from the new PS3, as well as our older PS3. Thanks for any help you can provide. Rick

2010-04-08 01:03:00 Author: RickRock_777 Posts: 1567

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Can I create a duplicate account (RickRock_777 in this case) on a second PS3 that will be recognized on PSN? In a word: yes. You can't have two local user accounts on the same PS3 which are associated with the same PSN ID, but you can on two different PS3s. Obviously, you won't be able to re-register a new account the same PSN ID, but you can simply enter the login details you use on the existing PS3. I'm not certain what would happen if both PS3s try to log in with the same PSN ID at the same time, however. It's possible that one of them might be disconnected.

2010-04-08 02:58:00 Author: Aya042 Posts: 2870

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@ Aya402... Thanks for the info. Is there a site that you know of that would explain all the details of how to do this? Rick

2010-04-08 03:09:00 Author: RickRock_777 Posts: 1567

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Is there a site that you know of that would explain all the details of how to do this? I just checked the official online PS3 manual, and it isn't even in there. It's pretty straightforward. You choose the "Sign Up for the PlayStation Network" option under the "PlayStation Network" icon on the XMB. One of the first things it asks you is if you want to create a new account, or use an existing account. Simply choose the latter option, and then enter your email address and password when prompted, and you're done.

2010-04-08 03:17:00 Author: Aya042 Posts: 2870

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@ Aya042...Thank you very much for the help and quick responses.

2010-04-08 03:36:00 Author: RickRock_777 Posts: 1567

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In a word: yes. You can't have two local user accounts on the same PS3 which are associated with the same PSN ID, but you can on two different PS3s. Obviously, you won't be able to re-register a new account the same PSN ID, but you can simply enter the login details you use on the existing PS3. I'm not certain what would happen if both PS3s try to log in with the same PSN ID at the same time, however. It's possible that one of them might be disconnected. Logging in into another already active account will log of the previous active account and the newer one stay, if someone else logs into your account while you're logged in, you'll get logged out as well. in short, an account can only be active in one system at once. Oh and another thing, if possible deactivate your account from the previous PS3, that way you'll steel have all your "spots" in case you need to switch it other times in the future.

2010-04-08 04:36:00 Author: Silverleon Posts: 6707

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With that one new trick of being able to log onto LBP servers but not PSN servers, you may be able to join in with the same account to create. https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=24961-How-to-play-comunity-levels-offline&p=431806&viewfull=1#post431806

2010-04-08 05:09:00 Author: warlord_evil Posts: 4193

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The one thing to remember is that it doesn't transfer all of your saved data i.e. your materials, stickers, music, etc. that you have unlocked.

2010-04-08 06:04:00 Author: shebhnt Posts: 414

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The one thing to remember is that it doesn't transfer all of your saved data i.e. your materials, stickers, music, etc. that you have unlocked. He can if he backs up his save data If i'm not mistaking.

2010-04-08 06:17:00 Author: Silverleon Posts: 6707

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If you have a user with a different PSN name, but linked to the same email address, does this get classed as one account, or could you both login that way? The whole point to these problems is Sony's (justified) efforts to prevent DLC, trophies, and saved games being transported to other users. To do what you want, you'd be better off creating a new PSN account on a separate email address. The downside is your having to buy again any DLC she needs on her new account. This will prevent any fallout due to content-sharing (which is a bad thing in Sony's eyes).

2010-04-08 13:54:00 Author: Nakatsu Hime Posts: 59

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He can if he backs up his save data If i'm not mistaking. Yeah, you should be able to load the profile onto the PS3 and use it, no?

2010-04-08 14:19:00 Author: schm0 Posts: 1239

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Yeah, you should be able to load the profile onto the PS3 and use it, no? You'd probably get a UID mismatch, and the "this profile has been copied.. blah.. blah.." message will appear. If you follow the instructions (http://manuals.playstation.net/document/en/ps3/current/settings/transferutility.html) for the PS3 data transfer utility precisely, you can avoid this.

2010-04-08 14:33:00 Author: Aya042 Posts: 2870

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Thanks everyone. Some additional info...according to Sony's response today to my question I submitted to them yesterday morning, my DLC can exist on up to 3 PS3 machines (I didn't know this--very cool ). All I have to do is log into PSN from my first PS3 and deactivate the account and log off, then log in with the new PS3 (as Aya042 stated--use existing account) and reactivate, which will make my content available for download to the new PS3. As for game save data, that's pretty straightforward, copying to a stick and installing on the new machine. For those who are not aware, Trophies can be ported to a new machine also by logging into PSN and sync'ing them with the server, log off, then log on from the new PS3. Thanks again for your responses. Rick

2010-04-09 02:49:00 Author: RickRock_777 Posts: 1567

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If you have a user with a different PSN name, but linked to the same email address, does this get classed as one account, or could you both login that way? The whole point to these problems is Sony's (justified) efforts to prevent DLC, trophies, and saved games being transported to other users. To do what you want, you'd be better off creating a new PSN account on a separate email address. The downside is your having to buy again any DLC she needs on her new account. This will prevent any fallout due to content-sharing (which is a bad thing in Sony's eyes). Hi Nakatsu Hime...If the PSN IDs are unique, then each can log in at the same time. Please forgive the double post...I felt Nakatsu Hime's question deserved a response.

2010-04-09 02:55:00 Author: RickRock_777 Posts: 1567

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my DLC can exist on up to 3 PS3 machines (I didn't know this--very cool ) Really? Every other source claims it's 5. All I have to do is log into PSN from my first PS3 and deactivate the account and log off, then log in with the new PS3 (as Aya042 stated--use existing account) and reactivate, which will make my content available for download to the new PS3. Really? Deactivate the first PS3. This will mean that your DLC would no longer function on that machine, and I thought the idea was that you wanted to use them simultaneously? As for game save data, that's pretty straightforward, copying to a stick and installing on the new machine. Really? I mean, it would work, but the copy would no longer be able to collect trophies due to the UID mismatch. I'd say you're better off using the Data Transfer Utility (http://manuals.playstation.net/document/en/ps3/current/settings/transferutility.html). Make sure you export your LBP profile to save data before you do it, because the game data version won't transfer correctly. I know a few people who've had this problem following a data transfer. It's actually mentioned on that page I just linked to, but it's easily missed:- Back up your profile information and stages you created in LittleBigPlanet? to your saved game. You can then use the data that was backed up when playing LittleBigPlanet? on the destination PS3? system. For those who are not aware, Trophies can be ported to a new machine also by logging into PSN and sync'ing them with the server, log off, then log on from the new PS3. That much is true. TBH, I'm not 100% sure, but it sounds like most of what you've been told isn't particularly accurate.

2010-04-09 03:17:00 Author: Aya042 Posts: 2870

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Really? Every other source claims it's 5. Really? Deactivate the first PS3. This will mean that your DLC would no longer function on that machine, and I thought the idea was that you wanted to use them simultaneously? Really? I mean, it would work, but the copy would no longer be able to collect trophies due to the UID mismatch. I'd say you're better off using the Data Transfer Utility (http://manuals.playstation.net/document/en/ps3/current/settings/transferutility.html). Make sure you export your LBP profile to save data before you do it, because the game data version won't transfer correctly. I know a few people who've had this problem following a data transfer. It's actually mentioned on that page I just linked to, but it's easily missed:- That much is true. TBH, I'm not 100% sure, but it sounds like most of what you've been told isn't particularly accurate. Did it ever occur to you that perhaps it was your info that mmight be wrong?

2010-04-09 07:52:00 Author: Silverleon Posts: 6707

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TBH, I'm not 100% sure, but it sounds like most of what you've been told isn't particularly accurate.Did it ever occur to you that perhaps it was your info that mmight be wrong? That's what "I'm not 100% sure" generally means in english, but YMMV.

2010-04-09 14:19:00 Author: Aya042 Posts: 2870

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Let's be nice now @Aya042... it's quite possible, out of the many thousands of Sony Customer Service reps scattered throughout the globe, that the one who responded to my question was incorrect about DLC being allowed on 3 rather than 5 PS3's. The true test would be to verify this for myself, but sadly, I don't think I want to purchase 3 more PS3's to find out . Regarding the need to deactivate a PS3 to make the DLC available for download on the new PS3, the link you provided also states this. As for UID issues, the Game Data Utility would solve this as the account the data is being transferred to would be wiped clean and the new Profile, as well as saved game data, being transferred would take it's place. According to Sony I can't be logged into the Network from more than 1 machine at a time, as this would definitely create a UID issue. I tried this last night and the first PS3 that was logged in got disconnected from the network. I only plan to develop on 1 machine, as it would be a hassle having to connect the 2 PS3's together via Ethernet cable and transfer Profile data (whenever my profile changed for some reason--i.e. newly created objects or collected community objects) everytime I wanted to switch to another system. So, I plan to move my entire Profile and save game data from all the games I play to the new machine and leave it at that--no going back so to speak. Anyway, thanks again for everyone's comments and help. Rick

2010-04-10 21:20:00 Author: RickRock_777 Posts: 1567

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I only plan to develop on 1 machine, as it would be a hassle having to connect the 2 PS3's together via Ethernet cable and transfer Profile data (whenever my profile changed for some reason--i.e. newly created objects or collected community objects) everytime I wanted to switch to another system. So, I plan to move my entire Profile and save game data from all the games I play to the new machine and leave it at that--no going back so to speak. Of course. I hadn't considered that. In which case the rest of my post is somewhat redundant. So, yeah, as long as you remember to backup your LBP profile before using the Data Transfer Utility, you should be fine. FWIW, the UID issue I was referring to was one I've mentioned before (http://forums.littlebigworkshop.com/t5/General-Discussion/Somebody-please-help-me-Data-lost/m-p/223300/highlight/true#M120937), and has nothing to do with PSN:- When you create a new local user account on a PS3 system, it generates a random 128-bit number which is associated with that account. This number can be viewed by copying one of your save games to a USB stick, plugging it into a PC, and loading the PARAM.SFO file into a text editor. When you copy a save game from one account to another, it compares the number in the save file to the one associated with the account, and if they don't match, you get a warning telling you that you can't use this save game to collect trophies. This is how the system detects whether a save game is yours, or copied from someone else. However, since you copied your entire system from one PS3 to another, then this will have also copied you previous user account, along with the 128-bit number, so your save games from the old system should work fine with the new one. What I'm not sure about is whether Sony have implemented a workaround to ensure that if two local user accounts on two different PS3s share the same PSN ID, that this will also let you copy save games between the two accounts without any problems.

2010-04-10 23:12:00 Author: Aya042 Posts: 2870

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How I love informative posts Thanks again.

2010-04-11 00:32:00 Author: RickRock_777 Posts: 1567

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Thanks RickRock_777, now I knows

2010-04-20 20:51:00 Author: Nakatsu Hime Posts: 59

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