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Hey long time no see eh? Pssh you guys probably don't remember me anyway. Hardly posted much when I was here. So I was playing MLB 10: The Show, when all of a sudden the game froze, and then I heard 2 beeps and the system shut off (How could they kill a Jew's system? Not cool.). Now whenever I try to turn the system back on I see a yellow light momentarily and then it starts flashing red. I was luckily able to get my game out (without force) so don't worry about that issue. A bigger problem though is that it happened to break at my dads house. My dads TV is a LCD TV that uses HDMI cables for the PS3 (which it is currently connected through). My TV on the other hand is a tube TV which uses component cables so therefore I can't even bring it back home seeing as it's set to run through the HDMI cables which my TV doesn't have. This is a problem because we can't chat via IM if you were trying to help me solve the problem because there is no internet at his house. My Google results said I was screwed and the guy from the PS3 help line said they had no solution either (Besides paying $120 for a trade in plus a ridiculous 30 dollar shipping charge. I don't have $150 bucks FYI). Whaleberg suggested I give you guys a try. Maybe one of you knows a hidden solution to this common problem. Oh and my system is the original 20GB Playstation 3 with a custom Hard Drive installed in it. If you need any other specifics, ask away. Also I don't need your sympathy, only post if you think you might know a solution. Side Story (this doesn't have to do with the problem, I just feel like talking about it): So I called the PS3 help line seeing as my Google results on the problem basically just said "you're screwed!". I called a couple years ago about an internet problem on the PS3 that in the end had nothing to do with the PS3 but with the wiring in the house, and had a super easy solution, FYI. Besides the problem, the guy they put me on with was a smart guy who was real easy to talk to and was very helpful. This time I got this guy who sounded like a robot reading a script (my friend keeps telling me it was a cleverly made robot but I don't think so). He was not very comfortable to talk to, like the other guy. I want the first guy back. The guy who's definitely not a robot. This robot man had no sympathy <.<. He was just like "we have no solution for that problem as of now, not even anything we suggest you could try, so here's a bunch of expensive options!".

2010-03-17 22:01:00 Author: ChristmasJew Posts: 431

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try looking for rflod how to fix yourself guides. i dont want to do it myself. because i dont feel like destroying my ps3. just look around and you might get it fixed.

2010-03-18 03:13:00 Author: WESFUN Posts: 1336

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You have the yellow light of death there my friend. Sorry to hear it. There are guides out there on how to fix it yourself, but 1) If you screw up you have to buy a new one and 2) Its not easy to do. If you look around, there are other people besides Sony who will fix it for you, good luck.

2010-03-18 03:28:00 Author: Burnvictim42 Posts: 3322

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I'm not cracking in to the PS3. Already can't afford to go trade it in for a refurbished one (it's cheaper then getting it fixed). Certainly can't afford to buy a brand new one if I screw up.

2010-03-18 03:55:00 Author: ChristmasJew Posts: 431

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i hope i dont get YLOD, didnt know you could fix it thow

2010-03-18 04:42:00 Author: YEAH_NAH Posts: 775

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i hope i dont get YLOD, didnt know you could fix it thow yes you can,there is a step by step walkthrough on how to do it on youtube

2010-03-18 05:23:00 Author: WESFUN Posts: 1336

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i got YLOD and failed at doing it, aand it took all day... But then two weeks later, the slim came out... and the rest is history. haha

2010-03-18 05:53:00 Author: Shhabbazz Posts: 746

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=402SWTXUWBU That one might help you.

2010-03-18 07:30:00 Author: Fredrik94 Posts: 342

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Yes, what you have is indeed the fabled YLOD. My PS3, 60GB launch version, actually got YLOD three days ago as well. I've worked quite a lot with repairing computers though, so I went ahead and reflowed it like people online recommended. Luckily, everything went great and my PS3 is back up and running as though nothing ever happened. I can reflow yours as well, if you'd like- pay for two way shipping and the rest would be free. I don't profess to be an expert, but I'm somewhat savvy at taking these things apart. I'd taken mine apart to individual pieces three times before I decided to go ahead and try it... Reflowing seems a little random, and can fix the PS3 anywhere from days to months without failing depending on the amount of heat and exposure you give it. At least, though, it almost always gives you enough time to recover all of your data.

2010-03-18 23:22:00 Author: Shredator Posts: 151

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Yes, what you have is indeed the fabled YLOD. My PS3, 60GB launch version, actually got YLOD three days ago as well. I've worked quite a lot with repairing computers though, so I went ahead and reflowed it like people online recommended. Luckily, everything went great and my PS3 is back up and running as though nothing ever happened. I can reflow yours as well, if you'd like- pay for two way shipping and the rest would be free. I don't profess to be an expert, but I'm somewhat savvy at taking these things apart. I'd taken mine apart to individual pieces three times before I decided to go ahead and try it... Reflowing seems a little random, and can fix the PS3 anywhere from days to months without failing depending on the amount of heat and exposure you give it. At least, though, it almost always gives you enough time to recover all of your data. If I knew you I would take that deal in a minute. But sending something valuable to someone you don't know over the internet is a huge risk. You can easily fix it then sell it and I'd have nothing to do about it because it'd be my fault for trusting you. I just can't run that risk. I'm probably just going to send it in. I really can't run the risk of failing to fix it and then not being able to send it in either. Unless anyone knows a way without breaking in to it, don't bother. =/

2010-03-19 01:31:00 Author: ChristmasJew Posts: 431

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Completely understand, I'd think you were loony if you were to send off your PS3 that quickly. Theoretically, if the PS3 were still running, you could turn it completely upside-down and play it until it begins to overheat to fix it. Unfortunately, the PS3 can't overheat itself anymore, so that's not really an option (not that I'm sure it'd work anyway). Do you back up your data regularly? If you don't mind losing everything to your last backup, then sending it in to Sony isn't a terrible option. I have a few problems with Sony's refurb process though, which you should probably know about. If you send it in to Sony, they will send back a different 60GB without any of your data. There's no way to retrieve anything off your hdd without actually fixing your PS3 yourself, since Sony won't negotiate and your hdd won't work with any other PS3. Also, the PS3 that they'd send you would be a refurbished one someone else sent Sony. Not only does that put you at risk of receiving one poorly taken care of, but the refurbished one also has a much, much higher failure rate than the normal console. I've heard of people having to send three back in a matter of months. After the first, sending back the refurbs is free, but it's still not pleasant for you, your time, or your data. In fact, I'd recommend trying to fix it yourself even without prior experience over sending it to Sony. If you're willing to try it, I'm willing to walk you through the process to do it safely.

2010-03-19 04:13:00 Author: Shredator Posts: 151

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Completely understand, I'd think you were loony if you were to send off your PS3 that quickly. Theoretically, if the PS3 were still running, you could turn it completely upside-down and play it until it begins to overheat to fix it. Unfortunately, the PS3 can't overheat itself anymore, so that's not really an option (not that I'm sure it'd work anyway). Do you back up your data regularly? If you don't mind losing everything to your last backup, then sending it in to Sony isn't a terrible option. I have a few problems with Sony's refurb process though, which you should probably know about. If you send it in to Sony, they will send back a different 60GB without any of your data. There's no way to retrieve anything off your hdd without actually fixing your PS3 yourself, since Sony won't negotiate and your hdd won't work with any other PS3. Also, the PS3 that they'd send you would be a refurbished one someone else sent Sony. Not only does that put you at risk of receiving one poorly taken care of, but the refurbished one also has a much, much higher failure rate than the normal console. I've heard of people having to send three back in a matter of months. After the first, sending back the refurbs is free, but it's still not pleasant for you, your time, or your data. In fact, I'd recommend trying to fix it yourself even without prior experience over sending it to Sony. If you're willing to try it, I'm willing to walk you through the process to do it safely. I have a custom HDD so I'd just send it in with the original HDD in, therefore not losing any data. Also the refurbished system comes with a 3 month warranty, and I can of course buy a longer lasting one. They have a nice deal. I can get a new slim (120 GB's) for the same price as getting one like the one I currently have (you guys call it fat, you meanies). I'll probably do that. Why not getting the cooler one, ya know what I'm saying? About the fixing it. Like I said, it's in another house because it just happened to break there and the cables are different. I'd have to fix it here then bring it back there to see if it works. As much as I'd like to try and fix it, I really shouldn't run the risk. Can't afford that risk.

2010-03-19 04:35:00 Author: ChristmasJew Posts: 431

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The other problem with Sony's setup is that the Hdd is tied to the motherboard and blu-ray drive. Unless both are detected, each with its own unique serial number, none of the Hdd's data can be accessed. Unless backed up, your hdd's data can only be used with the original working console. Again, if you've got backups it's not a problem at all. Otherwise, manually fixing your console is the one and only way to get yours saves back. I think you can transfer your account, trophies, and downloads, but I've never tried that one. If you've got your data off already, then just sending it in would probably be the best choice. Slims are a good deal though, I may very well buy myself one as well. Don't worry about the video settings though, if the console is running they're quite easy to reset. You just turn on the console from the front, but leave you finger on the power until it turns itself back off again. That sets the video settings to default, which detect whatever input you're using and switch to it.

2010-03-19 16:48:00 Author: Shredator Posts: 151

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The other problem with Sony's setup is that the Hdd is tied to the motherboard and blu-ray drive. Unless both are detected, each with its own unique serial number, none of the Hdd's data can be accessed. Unless backed up, your hdd's data can only be used with the original working console. Again, if you've got backups it's not a problem at all. Otherwise, manually fixing your console is the one and only way to get yours saves back. I think you can transfer your account, trophies, and downloads, but I've never tried that one. If you've got your data off already, then just sending it in would probably be the best choice. Slims are a good deal though, I may very well buy myself one as well. Don't worry about the video settings though, if the console is running they're quite easy to reset. You just turn on the console from the front, but leave you finger on the power until it turns itself back off again. That sets the video settings to default, which detect whatever input you're using and switch to it. So what you're saying is that even though my custom HDD is a laptop HDD, once I put it in a new PS3 everything in it will get deleted? Why do I highly doubt that?

2010-03-19 18:39:00 Author: ChristmasJew Posts: 431

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Shredator -"The other problem with Sony's setup is that the Hdd is tied to the motherboard and blu-ray drive. Unless both are detected, each with its own unique serial number, none of the Hdd's data can be accessed. Unless backed up, your hdd's data can only be used with the original working console." If I understand this correctly, if I moved my 60Gb's HDD to my slim, my slim would treat it like a new drive and attempt to reformat it? Or at the very least, not allow me access to the HDD data?

2010-03-19 19:26:00 Author: Nakatsu Hime Posts: 59

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No, not quite. It's Sony's way of keeping game data and trophies from being transferable, but instead of going the normal route they chose the nazi route instead. When you format your hdd (as you would have done the first time you swapped it out) it's keyed to the motherboard in that PS3, so that it only works with that PS3. When you stick the same drive in another PS3, instead of accessing your data it only gives you the option to reformat the disk or turn the system back off. It doesn't delete everything automatically, just gives you the decision to either delete it yourself or put it back in the original machine. The hdd is fine, but your data is essentially tied to your motherboard's fate. There is one possibility that I did fail to mention though, I realize. With the YLOD, 9/10 times the problem is with the motherboard soldering. For most of the rest, the power supply has burned itself to death. In that case, it's a very easy 40$ replacement part, after which you're back on your feet. Unfortunately, the only way to tell the difference is to open it up and check. If I understand this correctly, if I moved my 60Gb's HDD to my slim, my slim would treat it like a new drive and attempt to reformat it? Or at the very least, not allow me access to the HDD data? Yes, moving the hdd to another PS3 gives you a "click yes to reformat" screen, there is no way to get to the XMB.

2010-03-19 19:31:00 Author: Shredator Posts: 151

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Well that's dumb. Maybe I can put the HDD in my dads laptop momentarily (if it's the right size), then put the data on it on to my USB, then take it back out. Has to be some way. That's pretty ridiculous that they do that. Don't remember having to format my custom HDD to the system, although that was quite a while ago. I remember after I put it in it was like nothing even happened.

2010-03-19 19:35:00 Author: ChristmasJew Posts: 431

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Unfortunately, that doesn't work either. Your hdd would fit fine in any laptop bought in the last 2-3 years, but the laptop wouldn't find any readable files on it. The PS3 writes its files in a completely unique format that no other current operating system can read. When you backup onto another drive, some of them are converted so you can see them, but the raw files on the hdd are virtually untouchable. I know some guys in the linux community are working on decoding the format, but I don't think anyone has done it yet. So, if you put the hdd in a laptop, it will just come up either empty or loaded with unreadable/unmovable files. It sounds like the Geek Squad in some Best Buy stores have been given the correct format from Sony and can retrieve your data, but it costs almost as much as a new console. I'd do a search in your area to see if there is someone offering console repairs. I know a few people in larger cities have started offering YLOD and RROD repairs in the neighborhood of 50$, which isn't a bad way to go, if only to get your data to a new PS3.

2010-03-19 20:32:00 Author: Shredator Posts: 151

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Unfortunately, that doesn't work either. Your hdd would fit fine in any laptop bought in the last 2-3 years, but the laptop wouldn't find any readable files on it. The PS3 writes its files in a completely unique format that no other current operating system can read. When you backup onto another drive, some of them are converted so you can see them, but the raw files on the hdd are virtually untouchable. I know some guys in the linux community are working on decoding the format, but I don't think anyone has done it yet. So, if you put the hdd in a laptop, it will just come up either empty or loaded with unreadable/unmovable files. It sounds like the Geek Squad in some Best Buy stores have been given the correct format from Sony and can retrieve your data, but it costs almost as much as a new console. I'd do a search in your area to see if there is someone offering console repairs. I know a few people in larger cities have started offering YLOD and RROD repairs in the neighborhood of 50$, which isn't a bad way to go, if only to get your data to a new PS3. But when I got the new HDD I moved the files to my computer (via USB), and then moved them back once the new HDD was in. The computer could read them. I didn't try to open them or anything, but they were there.

2010-03-19 20:35:00 Author: ChristmasJew Posts: 431

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Yes, the PS3 converts the files into a common format when you tranfer them to a USB stick or another drive from within the PS3, but the files on the hdd right now are the unconverted format. If your PS3 were still running, you'd be able to move them that way really easily, but it's a nightmare with only the hdd.

2010-03-19 21:01:00 Author: Shredator Posts: 151

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My dad just asked this co-worker he knows that's really good with computers and he knows how to fix PS3's and will fix mine for just $50 (my dad owes me 50 so I really don't have to pay for anything). WOO! You can lock this now.

2010-03-19 21:55:00 Author: ChristmasJew Posts: 431

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Alright, good luck =). I've kinda been the bearer of bad news here, so I hope it all works out alright. Make sure to get your data safe first thing

2010-03-19 21:58:00 Author: Shredator Posts: 151

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Alright, good luck =). I've kinda been the bearer of bad news here, so I hope it all works out alright. Make sure to get your data safe first thing Yeah I'm going to start backing up my data once a week. That. . . was a close call. Almost shat my pants (not really though).

2010-03-19 22:10:00 Author: ChristmasJew Posts: 431

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You can lock this now. Eh, we'll wait until it's actually fixed.

2010-03-19 22:11:00 Author: comphermc Posts: 5338

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dont feel bad i was just about to save my data over and then my ps3 died

2010-03-19 22:11:00 Author: WESFUN Posts: 1336

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Eh, we'll wait until it's actually fixed. Oh lol that's a cruel joke. But alright, I'll report back when he's done. I'll probably be giving it to him either tomorrow or Sunday.

2010-03-19 22:15:00 Author: ChristmasJew Posts: 431

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dont feel bad i was just about to save my data over and then my ps3 died Well, just about everything you need to know can probably be found in this thread, Good luck. Also, to anyone reading this that owns an original launch model 20 or 60GB- it's extremely likely the thermal paste inside your PS3 has dried up, and your machine is in the process of killing itself. If you have any tech experience or know someone that does, take it apart and replace your thermal paste. Done correctly, you'll save yourself a lot of headaches and possible data loss in the future. If you can't, just make sure to back up your data as often as possible.

2010-03-20 19:05:00 Author: Shredator Posts: 151

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And my PS3 is officially back from the dead. Now you can lock this (wise guy). Only took him a day. Just hadn't given it to him till yesterday.

2010-03-23 04:14:00 Author: ChristmasJew Posts: 431

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Grat! Glad it worked out. If you keep using the restored PS3, be sure to treat it with kid gloves. A repaired PS3 isn't as stable as it originally was- it's best to keep them as cool as possible and not run them too hard or too long, for fear of the soldering coming loose again. If not, have fun with your new PS3 and old data!

2010-03-23 23:36:00 Author: Shredator Posts: 151

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and your machine is in the process of killing itself. Lol, nice way of putting it. Glad you got your PS3 back from the dead, I'd keep an eye on it though, could be a zombie .

2010-03-23 23:57:00 Author: Doopz Posts: 5592

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Grat! Glad it worked out. If you keep using the restored PS3, be sure to treat it with kid gloves. A repaired PS3 isn't as stable as it originally was- it's best to keep them as cool as possible and not run them too hard or too long, for fear of the soldering coming loose again. If not, have fun with your new PS3 and old data! Yes, indeedy, he did notify about that concern. He says some PS3's he fix's last only a few weeks while others last several months. He did say though (which I forgot to mention) that he would fix it free of charge if any further problems occur. But. . if by the time it breaks again (it may never, who knows) I have a job and all that good stuff, I would just buy a new PS3 slim (currently I can't afford one).

2010-03-24 04:09:00 Author: ChristmasJew Posts: 431

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A last word of warning from me. When my 60Gb when phut, it still had my LBP gamedisc inside it. The PS3 did not give the drive enough time to respond to an ejection request before shutting down again. At that time I was not intending to get it reflowed, so I went ahead to retrieve the disc. The type of drive the PS3 uses does not have a manual disc-ejection hole like normal tray-loading types do, so I had to dissemble it. I'm in no way a clutz, so I made sure I did not mess-up the laser assembly. However, when you remove the drive lid (the ONLY way to retrieve a trapped disc in this case) - no matter how careful you are - it messes up the drive's ejection mechanism. I did get my disc back, but after deciding to get the PS3 fixed, it cost me an extra ?50 to get the drive's ejection gubbins reset. So, in a word - DON'T! Buy a replacement gamedisc if you must.

2010-03-24 12:55:00 Author: Nakatsu Hime Posts: 59

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