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What do you think LBP would be like with out 3d layer glitch?

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im thinking it would be really weird, like not a lot of good looking levels.2010-03-07 07:37:00

Author:
The_Lil_JoKeR
Posts: 745


Like the story mode levels.
Nah, it'd have exactly the same quality it just wouldn't look as good.
2010-03-07 07:41:00

Author:
SR20DETDOG
Posts: 2431


Well, I'd imagine that LBP would resume as normal, glitch or not...

Just don't be surprised if Mm made a add-on featuring it.
2010-03-07 07:57:00

Author:
Outlaw-Jack
Posts: 5757


Not loads different, just a few levels would dissapear.2010-03-07 08:23:00

Author:
kirbyman62
Posts: 1893


The same as it used be, which was never bad to begin with... still plenty of great stuff from anyone with dedication, patience, and skill.2010-03-07 09:17:00

Author:
Unknown User


It wouldn't be any different.2010-03-07 14:05:00

Author:
Recurracy
Posts: 166


Considering that the extra layers glitch only adds unplayable layers... the gameplay of every level would remain pretty much unchanged. It's just eye candy really. If anything, because creators have to sacrifice some thermometer to add purely aesthetic things to the extra layers, levels would probably get a little bit more thermo to put into gameplay, length and detailing.

Besides, it's not like *every* level uses the layer glitch as of now right?
2010-03-07 14:18:00

Author:
Gilgamesh
Posts: 2536


Starcruiser was so ugly.... if only candyK had had the extra layer glitch back then....2010-03-07 14:30:00

Author:
rtm223
Posts: 6497


All the levels would be in 2D except 3D.... thats all.2010-03-07 15:14:00

Author:
ladylyn1
Posts: 836


Normal...

2010-03-07 17:00:00

Author:
warlord_evil
Posts: 4193


Well I am yet to even attempt to use it, and I've had 3 levels out since it was found...oh no, are they all worthless? I will remove them 2010-03-07 17:05:00

Author:
jackofcourse
Posts: 1494


If lbp had no 3d glitch two thins would happen:
Bakscratch would be unknown and there would be no 3d levels. That's all.
2010-03-07 17:08:00

Author:
KQuinn94Z
Posts: 1758


Starcruiser was so ugly.... if only candyK had had the extra layer glitch back then....

In fairness, he/she used the checkpoint thick layer glitch... I'm sure if the background layer one were around he'd have used it...

2010-03-07 17:30:00

Author:
comphermc
Posts: 5338


I don't think much would have change. LBP was pretty amazing back then, and it's still is.

Side-Note: Why is there "What do you it would have been like without this" threads?
2010-03-07 17:31:00

Author:
CyberSora
Posts: 5551


it would be the same as before2010-03-07 17:35:00

Author:
puppet88
Posts: 113


In fairness, he/she used the checkpoint thick layer glitch... I'm sure if the background layer one were around he'd have used it...



I know that, but you miss the point Levels without the extra layers aren't all ugly. Starcruiser is still several orders of magnitude prettier than most of the "3D" levels out there.
2010-03-07 18:13:00

Author:
rtm223
Posts: 6497


im thinking it would be really weird, like not a lot of good looking levels.


Wait what?!
Well, the way it was before it was discovered of course, seriously, there were plenty of great levels before the glitch, there will surely be many good ones after it too.

I mean really, you're talking as if the glitch was found from the begginging and everyone used it all the time.

What, so just because someone didn't use the glitch the level is automatically bad or something?
Seriously, its because of remarks like that that people with already good levels feel forced to change their levels just so the have the latest stuff integrated, sometimes it even ruins the levels, why? because some people felt it was lame/boring that it wasn't "up to date."
2010-03-07 21:10:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707


it would be like it was before the layer glitch.

i have the IQ of 10000 and that took a lot of thinking about. they call me Deep Thought.
2010-03-07 21:10:00

Author:
trip090
Posts: 1562


You mean like how everything was 6 months ago? Oh yeah everything sucked then

I mean can you imagine IceMaiden's level without... oh wait. Or maybe a Morgana level with- oh yeah.... well surely a xKappax level without it would be... oh really good too
2010-03-08 23:36:00

Author:
Coxy224
Posts: 2645


I never used the layer glitch and players still say my levels are good. 2010-03-09 00:32:00

Author:
Chump
Posts: 1712


Well, when I left early in 2009 there was no 3D glitch. And I've only been back a short time with the glitch. I've dabbled a bit, but to be honest, I don't think it's much of a big deal. Yes it can add some visual flair, but more often than not I see it misused to the point where it's visually distracting or even detracts from the level.

As far as I'm concerned, LBP without the layer glitch is the true LBP. It could be stripped out tomorrow and I wouldn't miss it, but kudos to those that use it well.
2010-03-09 16:52:00

Author:
Thegide
Posts: 1465


"What, so just because someone didn't use the glitch the level is automatically bad or something?
Seriously, its because of remarks like that that people with already good levels feel forced to change their levels just so the have the latest stuff integrated, sometimes it even ruins the levels, why? because some people felt it was lame/boring that it wasn't "up to date.""
See COD MW2 (graphics, realism)

This thread is going downhill pretty rapidly.
2010-03-10 12:46:00

Author:
Recurracy
Posts: 166


Well I am yet to even attempt to use it, and I've had 3 levels out since it was found...oh no, are they all worthless? I will remove them

I haven't used it either, jack. I guess I'll delete my levels, too.

Naw, in seriousness, lbp existed just fine before the glitch and I've seen beautiful levels that use the glitch and beautiful things that don't use the glitch... so... it would probably be just about the same with or without. People would find something else to wow us with, i'd imagine.

Edit: Icy. ... just saw your post. LOL. Thanks.
I actually just learned how to use the 3d glitch a week ago. Is that bad? Don't know that I'll actually use it in a level though.
2010-03-10 13:23:00

Author:
xkappax
Posts: 2569


ive never used it.
lbp wud still be great without it.
simples.
jus dont freak out if u think of wot it would be like without grabbable glass...CHAOS..... :/
2010-03-10 14:08:00

Author:
Bombw87
Posts: 126


I don't even like it. It was interesting to see it a few times, but like others have said it can be distracting from the gameplay.
I wouldn't miss it. There are more 3 layer levels that are way better than 3D glitched ones.
2010-03-10 21:15:00

Author:
midnight_heist
Posts: 2513


i've only just learnt how to use the layer glitch. i can see it's usefulness and that's why i dabble in it but i think, no, i KNOW little big planet is as fun and beautiful without it.2010-03-10 21:18:00

Author:
trip090
Posts: 1562


Hot question it seems...
Personaly, i must admit that the glitch add a lot of perspectives for the creators. And in this way, it is a very good thing. I use it in my levels since i mastered it (not so long time away). And finally, it is very easy and confortable when you are use to.
And i am a little bit laughing about people saying that it can disturb from gameplay (so, just use no background and only cardboard materials, to keep the player concentrate in gameplay....lol). Try it, master it, and you would never say that anymore

I think all is question of balance: Glitch for background = less thermo. Less thermo = shorter or emptier level.
So, it is important to not add too much glitch backgrounds (or foreground btw), in order to keep your level full of things to do and with an acceptable length. Question of balance

And nevertheless, it would be absurd to say that level that don't use the glitch are bad levels.
Bad levels are bad levels, with or without glitch...
And good levels are good levels, with or without glitch...
2010-03-10 22:20:00

Author:
Takelow
Posts: 1355


lol you wouldn't need to ask this...just play any of the Mm story levels, DLC packs and you'll see for yourself

on a side note let me point out that the best use of the 3D glitch in my opinion is TEEBONESY...that man makes me wish the 3D glitch never leaves since he makes awesome cities and such with em
2010-03-11 00:33:00

Author:
Shadowcrazy
Posts: 3365


Starcruiser was so ugly.... if only candyK had had the extra layer glitch back then....

I know. It would have looked so much better if he'd done that kind of detail on 16 planes, and made the level 5 times shorter and emptier than it already was. Or wait, he could have used every single layer, all the way to the front and back, but had no stickers, shapes, or details whatsoever, and no gameplay either.

(something like 3D City would obviously be exempt from this sarcasm, but you get my point)
2010-03-11 20:21:00

Author:
Unknown User


Eh, 'bout the same.2010-03-13 13:35:00

Author:
Arctos13
Posts: 258


Naw, No difference.. well some... This thread would not have existed...2010-03-13 13:48:00

Author:
Tawarf
Posts: 457


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