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Being harassed/flamed/hatemailed/virtually killed by Juhani100

Archive: 52 posts


I am still shaking with anger and sadness..
I cant almost control my hands anymore.

This is not just a weird picture or a flame anymore.
When I released my first sack level Some kid added me called "Juhani100" saying he is my biggest fan,
I think I showed him my levels some time, and might have helped him.
I am not sure as there are many people who added me because of my tutorials etc.
Now I kinda ignored the kid as I was busy and so was he.

I noticed yesterday that he published a level called "Sack and the world of legend level 6 of 11"
And For some reason I thought.. Hmm sounds very familliar.. (Like my "Sack, The legendary" 13 level series).
So I went to his published level..
And this level 6 of 11 had a subname.. "Hill of the mangrove",
My 4th level had a subname "Mangrove mountain".. so I was a little ticked off by this.
So I checked a few of his levels.. and I didnt have to go beyond the first room in each to see he was somewhat copying me visually.
his level 6 had a cavestucture almost simmiliar to mine.

So I mailed the fellah and asked him whats up.
It was something like "Hey kid, about your levels.. Is it just coincidence that your level names are near the same as mine, and that they also have the same looks? are you kidding me?"

And he replied:
"Ill erase them, okay.. dont worry!"

I mailed him:
"Dude dont worry, just rename them a bit and be done with it"

and then it got worse.
My psn inbox is filled with mails like: "I hate you", "Please shut the f up", "Drop dead!", "I wish you where dead".

I again mailed him and said that he shouldnt overreact and that renaming was enough.

I just wanted to go to bed (its 4 am atm) when I wanted to check my level comments.
Some of my levels are totally filled with "I hate you" "Screw you", "Fuuu" and Juhani100's friends are also joining the party, blaiming me for him deleting his levels.. while I never asked him to do such a thing.

To make things worse,
He now also published a level, focussed on flaming me..
Not just flaming me.. no .. Litterally killing me in the level.
I dont mean my sackboy.. no a badly shaped version of me that you as the user have to kill.

TheGide GoodGrieved for the first time in his lbp years,
Some others also went "wth is this!!"

Now ok,
I know I can make people angry..
And I know I am not the most loved person..
But this is just insane..

I feel sad for the kid, as I never wanted him to delete his levels..
I just asked him whats up with the naming/visuals etc.
But I am also angry as he is spamming me, flaming me.. virtually killing me...

So again..
"Juhani100" and his level is "Please play this, its important" i think.

*goes to bed a little sad*
2010-02-26 03:21:00

Author:
Luos_83
Posts: 2136


I wouldn't let it get to ya. Just ignore all of his messages, don't respond, and he'll just get bored of it.2010-02-26 03:30:00

Author:
Unknown User


I'm totally hearting that level. *Just kidding*

*Good Griefs It*

I've had my share of hatred, but ****, you've been hit hard
2010-02-26 03:31:00

Author:
Incinerator22
Posts: 3251


If you haven't delete him from your friends list and then block him maybe that should help with the messages(i think)
Just ignore the lvls and move on people are smart enough(kinda) to understand that he is copying your lvls.

Thats all i got for ya wish you the best
2010-02-26 03:42:00

Author:
Mangarocks14
Posts: 262


Ow, that is bad. I haven't any new advice, so the only thing i can do is support you in that you make great levels and you'd be very missed if you left the community!2010-02-26 04:46:00

Author:
RCIX
Posts: 250


GoodGrief him, since this is actually appropriate, and make sure that Mm/Sony knows - this is probably something best left to them. You might be able to get his account banned, since that is harassment of a very high degree. -shrug- Hope that helps, man.2010-02-26 05:01:00

Author:
Ragfell
Posts: 729


sounds like an extremely unbalanced person O_O Good Grief the little turd!!2010-02-26 05:46:00

Author:
Littlebigdude805
Posts: 1924


My advice: completely ignore him, block him and anyone else who PMs you bad things. File a complaint: http://np.us.playstation.com/complaint/pc/ComplaintForm.aspx and get your friends to Good Grief the level til it's gone.2010-02-26 06:53:00

Author:
TripleTremelo
Posts: 490


Dang, and I thought I'd had it bad.

I had a month or two of constant hatemail filling my PSN inbox on my last account, so much so that out of frustration I took almost a year off creating.
Thankfully I've come back alot wiser.

I can say from personal experience; Don't let it get you down, you're a well-known and respected creator so you're bound to have a few trolls out there. Just take pleasure in the knowledge that they're most likely girly-voiced, pre-pubescent janks that have to trash strangers from the saftey of their bedrooms, which are most likely littered with Star Wars figurines and sticky-paged Victoria's Secret catalogues.
2010-02-26 07:52:00

Author:
Unknown User


Yea added him to my blocklist..
it seems he deleted the level and spamcomments on my levels.
Probably because I uploaded a pic of me killing myself in his level. (Closest I ever came to suicide lol).

I do hope the kid will calm down and use his ripping-off skills to create something original.
Thanks for the funny/cool comments guys

:hug:
2010-02-26 12:47:00

Author:
Luos_83
Posts: 2136


which are most likely littered with Star Wars figurines

Oi! Got a problem with people who own Star Wars figurines!?


Probably because I uploaded a pic of me killing myself in his level. (Closest I ever came to suicide lol).

Hehe, nice! Glad you're seeing the humour in this.

Some people take things way too personally. I hope this thing is resolved now.
2010-02-26 13:26:00

Author:
Rogar
Posts: 2284


In my opinion, you should thank him for the publicity. He made a LEVEL ALL ABOUT YOU! He's that in love with you! It's amazing. Anyway, I wouldn't really pay attention to it. He's doing this because he needs an ego boost. Ego is the bane of humanity. 2010-02-26 13:28:00

Author:
qrtda235566
Posts: 3664


Does this mean I need to delete my "Lack, Secondary" series?2010-02-26 13:40:00

Author:
TheAdipose
Posts: 533


Some people (kids I guess I should say...but it isn't limited to them) just don't know when to say when...or...They get such a thrill at seeing you mad and upset it only fuels their fire. So I agree with the others who have said "Just delete, block and ignore" once you stop giving 'them' the satisfaction of your reaction they will get board and move on.

I totally get your upset though...and I don't blame you...but what can you do? In school yards it's bullies on the Internet its spammers and haters

Chin up mate.

No one can steal your Mojo!

You have to give that away!


2010-02-26 14:29:00

Author:
AJnKnox
Posts: 518


If this was me i'd probably just troll the hell out of him...but yeah, just block him and be done it. That's some extreme jealousy right there.2010-02-26 14:36:00

Author:
Infernox
Posts: 93


And he replied:
"Ill erase them, okay.. dont worry!"

I mailed him:
"Dude dont worry, just rename them a bit and be done with it"

and then it got worse.
My psn inbox is filled with mails like: "I hate you", "Please shut the f up", "Drop dead!", "I wish you where dead".

Talk about a mood swing.

Seriously, why is he getting all angry because you asked him to simply change the name of his level because you thought he was copying you? That kid needs to get some stuff sorted out. I'd good grief and file a complaint like TripleTremelo said.
2010-02-26 16:35:00

Author:
kirbyman62
Posts: 1893


Good to know it got settled - don't let this stuff bother you, Luos. And if it does, we're always around to either talk to or call in extra muscle. -flexes= Or, at least, I am...2010-02-26 21:27:00

Author:
Ragfell
Posts: 729


that's awful! i feel angry for you. i agree with others, block him and ignore it. don't troll him or any thing because that's going down to his level. be the bigger person and ignore it.2010-02-26 21:34:00

Author:
trip090
Posts: 1562


We all get them... I had one, last summer. It really puts u off the game eh?

The best advice we can give you is just to report them (although that normally makes no difference), block them and then forget about them.

Seriously, I doubt the level that ur getting blown up in will get anywhere near the thousands of plays that ur level series is getting.
2010-02-26 21:42:00

Author:
ladylyn1
Posts: 836


1.block him.
2.ignor him.
3.REPORT HIM
2010-02-27 01:40:00

Author:
YEAH_NAH
Posts: 775


He sounds like a kid about 12 or something. Nobody older would do something so immature. Ill go good grief it as well, hopefully get it taken down faster.2010-02-27 02:15:00

Author:
Jrange378
Posts: 573


Don't worry, if someone actually goes to that length just to be like you, then you really got a number one fan! Although, let's hope he doesn't go crazy like this guy.

(Yes I listen to Eminem. He's awesome! )

Eminem - Stan (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSLZFdqwh7E)
2010-02-27 02:47:00

Author:
CyberSora
Posts: 5551


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvP0uwl3Q6A
Concrete shoes
Cyanide
T.N.T
Done dirt cheap

Ooo, neckties
Contracts
High voltage
Done dirt cheap, eah

(the author of this post does not condone violence of any kind in response to personal problems)
2010-02-27 05:34:00

Author:
v0rtex
Posts: 1878


This is very sad indeed, ahh well. Just forget about the unstable jealous p**ck and keep making excellent levels. That always works.2010-02-27 08:53:00

Author:
Arctos13
Posts: 258


I've had more than my share of run-ins with trolls on the internet, but this kid went too far.

I'd have been ok with plagiarized work - it's flattering actually that someone liked your stuff so much as to try to copy it. But following that up with a crusade against you in the form of an offensive level, and a slew of hate-filled comments on your levels and over PSN is just about enough to be banned from PSN, let alone LBP Online.

I truly hope this kid gets what's coming to him. He needs to learn how to act responsibly online and more than that, probably needs some real therapy to stabilize himself. I'd be frightened to be his parents at any rate.
2010-02-28 15:13:00

Author:
Thegide
Posts: 1465


The level's gone. His lvl, I mean. WHich is good.2010-02-28 15:32:00

Author:
SPONGMONKEY56
Posts: 209


To imagine that all this started from a game for Christ's sake, i heard of people dieing over videogames (Suicide, Mentally ill,Etc.) What has our generation come to?2010-02-28 16:46:00

Author:
Emogotsaone
Posts: 1030


To imagine that all this started from a game for Christ's sake, i heard of people dieing over videogames (Suicide, Mentally ill,Etc.) What has our generation come to?

It, sir, has come to a fact that too many people are too...linked...with games, physically, mentally, and emotionally. I, for example, still have an urge to run around in platemail with a broadsword sometimes, simply because I play so many RPGs. It'd be funny, for sure, but also very embarrassing, and most likely put me in a psychiatric ward.

Regardless, I'm glad to see his level is down and that he's stopped pestering you, Luos. Goodness knows you of all of us don't deserve it.
2010-02-28 17:08:00

Author:
Ragfell
Posts: 729


yea I am fine,
I can understand young teens (and sometimes we all) have problems coping with emotions.
i reported him/blocked him.

the only other time i good grieved, was when I joined s/o in an online game, and when we returned to his pod..
his entire pod was one big ode to hitler.
2010-02-28 19:54:00

Author:
Luos_83
Posts: 2136


yea I am fine,
I can understand young teens (and sometimes we all) have problems coping with emotions.
i reported him/blocked him.

the only other time i good grieved, was when I joined s/o in an online game, and when we returned to his pod..
his entire pod was one big ode to hitler.

So he was a serious honest to God, Nazi? And yes there are still Nazis, they're just have no command.
2010-02-28 22:26:00

Author:
Emogotsaone
Posts: 1030


Of course there's still Gnatzis (to make you realize I'm speaking like the fellas from Inglourious Basterds), along with other white supremacist groups. They have always existed as long as one person had a different skin pigment than another person, and will always exist until there's a single unified race all over the world.2010-02-28 22:48:00

Author:
Ragfell
Posts: 729


Sorry bout your little enraged fanboy... I hope he doesn't live near you... 2010-02-28 23:15:00

Author:
Aselrahc
Posts: 185


and will always exist until there's a single unified race all over the world.
We should all just make moccababies, that would solve all racial problems
2010-03-01 12:59:00

Author:
Luos_83
Posts: 2136


At least with PSN down, he can't message you! I hope this hater has stopped with the hating! Great levels by the way!2010-03-01 13:17:00

Author:
Rhys125
Posts: 841


I got two more mails from the guy,

(adult warning, lots of cursing)


First of all, he read this thread and asked me if I was gonna youtube him as well.. (lol)
one claiming he is surely older than I am and that should be reason enough to leave him alone (wtf.. he mailed me.. not the other way around) Also threatherning me to tell everybody what big of a dreamkiller I am. (lol)

So I went angry and called him a molested emo teen, yadayadayada (hey he claims to be my age, sure.. but that only means I wont hold back on anything.. his loss)
I know better because of the way he reacted to my original mail and the way he talked when he joined in my pod/levels.

Again another mail, telling me the guy is 28.
Now if he was 28 he would just started a conversation with me about the levels and I am sure we would both be pleased with the results...
I do remember him saying he was 13 or 14 when he first added me.
The mail ended with: s*ck your fathers di** (father passed away, but I can cope with this as I am old enough to know how to cope with such comments.. and frankly.. if he didnt su** his own fathers di** as much he would not have been such an emo about me asking about his levels and instantly deleting them. (and as I made some bad comments against him, I can handle anything he throws at me)
Calling me dreamkiller a few more times, and tells me I shouldnt have uploaded a cave tutorial...
sigh.. uploading a cave tutorial is one thing... trying to copy caves from my own levels is another thing.. stealing their names only makes it worse.



So I blocked him, and reported him AGAIN to PSN.


Now..
If he really is 28.. I would convince his family to go abortion on juhani's behind.
because nothing good can come from such a person.
I know.. you cant abort a living being...
but if you try hard enough.. i am sure we will find a way.

*Angry*
2010-03-03 14:49:00

Author:
Luos_83
Posts: 2136


I thought you'd already blocked him? And he's here on LBPC?2010-03-03 14:54:00

Author:
Thegide
Posts: 1465


Either he, or one of his friends is,
as he knows about this thread.
2010-03-03 14:58:00

Author:
Luos_83
Posts: 2136


Everyone! Form up around Luos! We must protect him from this twist! -assumes defensive position and brandishes a sword- I got ya covered, Luos! I owe you one, if you remember from a while back!2010-03-04 00:34:00

Author:
Ragfell
Posts: 729


lol,
I can create my own sword with flaming bombs and emitted lightnings of infinite damage +2.. so dont worry mate!
2010-03-04 00:39:00

Author:
Luos_83
Posts: 2136


Yeah…but tis a good thing to have another one that emits a ton of deadly gas! And can drown people in one of 250k water levels with a single swipe!

And those are infinite damage plus 4, and I get to roll a d4 to find my additional multiplier!

We can't lose! Huzzah!
2010-03-04 00:47:00

Author:
Ragfell
Posts: 729


I wish this would not happen and some people could just grow up you know? I mean the kid is probably not too much younger than me, maybe five years younger (if he's 10 or so), and it amazes me how a kid could do this, no matter his/her age. I like to think I'm kind and mature, hopefully people here think I'm older than I actually am. Lol. I know I would never do that, I just can't stand this happening to people here on LBPC. It's just so childish and unneccisary. I hope I don't seem like this to all of you here...?

2010-03-04 00:48:00

Author:
piggabling
Posts: 2979


Piggabling, you don't seem like it to me. You seem like one of the teenagers who could actually hold their own at a fancy dinner party their parents dragged them to. That's no mean feat.2010-03-04 01:04:00

Author:
Ragfell
Posts: 729


Sorry to here about your never ending "MEGAFAN". Here's something that might lighten you up though.

http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/7338/thankyoul.jpg
2010-03-04 01:25:00

Author:
CyberSora
Posts: 5551


its kinda scary if you think about how did he figure out about the thread? Does he have some sort of spy team? I'm scared just writing this.....hahaha

At least your dealing with it, thats good to know.
I vote for guarding Luos! We shall defend his honor!!!!!
2010-03-04 05:25:00

Author:
Mangarocks14
Posts: 262


Hmm that harrasser sounds like my little brother!2010-03-05 01:34:00

Author:
Castleland
Posts: 32


I know what that's like , so just block him and delete him . good grief his levels and punch your mom .... No !! Punch a wall !! =)2010-03-06 13:50:00

Author:
G-Hustla
Posts: 81


i used to get this from a person who copied my cars exactly and said that they were his, he then after i had said why he had done it started taking the stickers of my cars and putting crap or sh** on them.... i dont know why but eventually just ignored him and now i dont think he goes on LBP anymore 2010-03-08 00:06:00

Author:
geddez12
Posts: 338


DRAWMA

You literally just have to IGNORE him. Take no notice of him, erase any sign of you saying anything about him. Infact, ask a mod to delete this thread. All he really wants is attention.

As I have said a many times before, and yet to come, I played ROBLOX. I had over 12,000 posts on the forums there, I know what im talking bout
2010-03-09 03:41:00

Author:
Testudini
Posts: 3262


He re-published his levels,
Just showing what a major prick the kid is.
He did not delete them and was just lying..
*shakes head*
Adi even suggested the kid might have been authistic.
He did change the level names, but especially his level 6 is so much rip-off from my own levels.

Also another person is working on his own series..
"Sackboy the legend" so I kinda went berserk because now two people are trying the same thing.
I did appologise to this 2nd person, as he is just using stuff I gave away in my levels/he re-made from tutorials.
He did change the series names though.

Sure.. I should be honored that people are using my stuff, and want to recreate stuff I made..
But too bad you cant do a decent understandable tutorial on being creative instead of ffin (poorly) copying parts of the level.
Getting inspired by others is one thing, just basically stealing idea's from others is another.
2010-03-16 20:26:00

Author:
Luos_83
Posts: 2136


A good rule of thumb is to assume that when you make something copyable, someone will just copy it and re-publish it with no changes. Many creators do not want to work for their recognition and copy other people's levels to get popular. It sounds like the person you are dealing with will not listen. There's not much you can really do other than prevent this from happening in the future by not making your levels copyable.

They say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

Edit: Went back and read the first post. This guy didn't copy your levels, he just copied your ideas? Well, that's not very nice but the whole part about creating a level focused on flaming you is unacceptable. I would block this person on PSN.
2010-03-19 18:14:00

Author:
Silverpanther
Posts: 156


I think this may be getting a bit out of hand
Hope you sort things out
2010-03-20 01:37:00

Author:
suchiacatdog
Posts: 15


I found it interesting that the option for making a level copyable reads:

Anyone can copy their level to their moon, edit it, and publish at is their own.

Such lies!
2010-03-20 05:26:00

Author:
Incinerator22
Posts: 3251


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