Archive: 17 posts

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Maybe I'm being a little paranoid but I got to get it off of my chest. After doing a little lurking on what I'll call from here on the "black market" (a whole bunch of reasons came to me as to why I wanted to find out whats going on on the dark side) It seems these pirates and hackers have done quite a bunch of things that can really hurt profits for LBP PSP. And who knows what other hacking they can do in the future (like things they haven't been able to do). I already talked about FullMoon way back (their # of levels of gotten big), but they also are sharing special hacked saves with some of the free stuff (bonus 6 costumes for example) including a bunch of downloaded levels from online (mainly ours) The good part is they still can't get patches (they have to get online levels by sharing save files). So what can we do? I don't think notifiying Sony or Cambridge will help, cause they will just move and continue there business elsewhere. The only thing I can think of is just using stickers and materials from DLC so they can't get those get those levels (because they can't get the data patches) Idk what do you guys think, I'm I just being a little paranoid? Or could an increase in piracy ruin our chances at future DLC patches or even the servers.

2010-01-29 22:03:00 Author: JKthree Posts: 1125

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Something to understand is that the majority of people who pirate games are not potential customers. The industry likes to push the idea that one pirated copy = one lost sale, but this is not true by a long shot. The majority of pirates are more akin to parasites who simply want to get something for free, no matter what (they'll also often try to justify their behavior in some meaningless way). The only thing to do is to ignore them and continue to play the game. Trying to call them out or fight them head-on has never resulted in anything positive AFAIK.

2010-01-29 23:47:00 Author: Gilgamesh Posts: 2536

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The industry likes to push the idea that one pirated copy = one lost sale, but this is not true by a long shot.I would agree with that. Granted, there are bound to be some people who did not purchase a copy because they were able to pirate one, but I can't imagine it's a significant number of lost sales.

2010-01-30 02:49:00 Author: Taffey Posts: 3187

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In the interests of full disclosure, I admit that prior to purchasing Littlebigplanet I was running custom firmware on my PSP. I only mention this to illustrate how LBP can actually dissaude piracy: I had originally downloaded the game from a torrent site and got so hooked on it that it convinced me to buy an official copy and erase all my custom firmware, so I could go online and also increase the stability (there was some freezing when I played the illegal copy). I hope others follow suit, because I'm sure there's a lot of great would-be creators currently playing a hacked copy and are not able to publish their levels. Get rid of your CFW!

2010-01-30 04:05:00 Author: rimmonhouse Posts: 15

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Okey doke then paranoia it is Well when you get several comments of hackers and pirates on youtube and a very high chance they have been subscribers so they can get all the levels for there saves...it got to me. Well I guess it wouldn't matter anyway, once more DLC comes and everyone starts using those they won't be able to get our levels anymore.

2010-01-30 04:54:00 Author: JKthree Posts: 1125

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Well I guess it wouldn't matter anyway, once more DLC comes and everyone starts using those they won't be able to get our levels anymore. Uh, yes they will. I can assure you I know a lot more about the PSP's firmware & hacking it.

2010-01-30 16:56:00 Author: ARD Posts: 4291

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Hmmm there isn't realli a way to stop them...

2010-01-30 17:37:00 Author: Kern Posts: 5078

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Hmmm there isn't realli a way to stop them... Exactly. That's why sony made the Go, to try to stop piracy. Needless to say, it was hacked within a week or something.

2010-01-30 18:02:00 Author: ARD Posts: 4291

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Exactly. That's why sony made the Go, to try to stop piracy. Needless to say, it was hacked within a week or something. The hack was never released, so Sony still won. And I also think the PSP Go was more testing the waters of DD, and seeing if it would work on the PSP2 (If it ever comes out)

2010-01-31 05:03:00 Author: MattAstr Posts: 99

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Maybe I'm being a little paranoid but I got to get it off of my chest. After doing a little lurking on what I'll call from here on the "black market" (a whole bunch of reasons came to me as to why I wanted to find out whats going on on the dark side) It seems these pirates and hackers have done quite a bunch of things that can really hurt profits for LBP PSP. And who knows what other hacking they can do in the future (like things they haven't been able to do). I already talked about FullMoon way back (their # of levels of gotten big), but they also are sharing special hacked saves with some of the free stuff (bonus 6 costumes for example) including a bunch of downloaded levels from online (mainly ours) The good part is they still can't get patches (they have to get online levels by sharing save files). So what can we do? I don't think notifiying Sony or Cambridge will help, cause they will just move and continue there business elsewhere. The only thing I can think of is just using stickers and materials from DLC so they can't get those get those levels (because they can't get the data patches) Idk what do you guys think, I'm I just being a little paranoid? Or could an increase in piracy ruin our chances at future DLC patches or even the servers. I don't appreciate you bashing on MY site. LittleBigMods.net, correct? 1) Pirates. I, and other staff take NO responsibility if members happen to pirate the game. It's a great game, doesn't deserve being pirated. I bought my copy the day it was released here in New Zealand, on my PSPgo. 2) FullMoon was found and developed upon by Me, a fellow co-owner, and several other members. For owners of custom firmware. Sony BLOCKED CFW users. I personally think that is VERY stupid idea. But, i applaud Sony for blocking CHEATERS. The only reason i bought a PSP in the first place, 2 years ago, was custom firmware. If anything, CFW has SLIGHTLY boosted sales. You look at what hacked PSPs can do. Use a 1000 as a iR remote. Multitask on a 2000. Remap a broken nub to the dpad. Yes, i'll admit to having, and using CFW, but i honestly don't care for it anymore. Due to owning a PSPgo. 3) "The good part is they still can't get patches". Incorrect. We POSSIBLY patched an .iso. Only thing is, we cannot get our testing PSP to the PSN, utilizing a plugin. And it is known that the plugin is VERY temperamental on various PSPs. 4) Another reason for FullMoon. I guarantee, that at least 70% of the levels published are ****. Made by 10 year olds. We have QUALITY, DECENT levels uploaded for everyone to play. 5) I kinda agree on the DLC. However, CFW users cannot buy them. If there were a way to do this, I would set up a system, in which someone buys it through PayPal, comes to MY PayPal, then I donate/somehow give that money to Mm or SCEE.C and that user gets an email with said DLC. But I cannot do that. 6) Paranoia. You're paranoid. That's it. Yes, i'm a PSP hacker, i'll give you that, though. And to that MattAstr guy, the hack for the PSPgo on 6.10 was, infact released, but patched in under an hour. Wasn't any use, but it was still hacked. In response to this thread: https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=19605-Fullmoon-%28sharing-levels-by-data As I have mentioned. If you even BOTHERED to check out what FullMoon is, you'd know it is primarily for CFW users, AND for people on OFW, with no wireless. So we are offering something for the "legit" users as you put it. I have also said, out of my few months of playing LBP, I have only come across very few DECENT levels on the PSN. And we have at least 100 - 200 levels on offer. DECENT ones at that. Now, accusing me, and 1100 other people of piracy, I will "borrow" your favicon.ico. And as us Kiwis would say: You ****.

2010-02-10 07:41:00 Author: Rasta Monkey Posts: 7

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I don't appreciate you bashing on MY site.No sites were actually mentioned, but if you wish to call attention to yourself I suppose you can. 1) Pirates. I, and other staff take NO responsibility if members happen to pirate the game. It's a great game, doesn't deserve being pirated. I bought my copy the day it was released here in New Zealand, on my PSPgo.All well and good, but can you vouch for the majority of your members having bought the game? 2) FullMoon was found and developed upon by Me, a fellow co-owner, and several other members. For owners of custom firmware. Sony BLOCKED CFW users. I personally think that is VERY stupid idea. But, i applaud Sony for blocking CHEATERS.I agree, CFW should be blocked on any game that allows online interaction because it simply results in people using cheats. Unfortunately, it seems cheating has still occurred on scores in LBP PSP somehow. It is unfortunate that legitimate users have to be blocked as well. The only reason i bought a PSP in the first place, 2 years ago, was custom firmware. If anything, CFW has SLIGHTLY boosted sales. You look at what hacked PSPs can do. Use a 1000 as a iR remote. Multitask on a 2000. Remap a broken nub to the dpad. Yes, i'll admit to having, and using CFW, but i honestly don't care for it anymore. Due to owning a PSPgo.Nothing wrong with CFW as long as it's not used for the purpose of getting games for free. 4) Another reason for FullMoon. I guarantee, that at least 70% of the levels published are ****. Made by 10 year olds. We have QUALITY, DECENT levels uploaded for everyone to play.This point is rather moot, unless you are talking about quality levels that are not published to the PSN. I see nothing wrong with sharing levels privately between members. However, if the quality levels are being taken from the PSN and then able to be edited/copied without the author's consent, it's another story. And as us Kiwis would say: [...]Lowering yourself to petty insults only diminishes the value of your arguments.

2010-02-10 12:59:00 Author: Gilgamesh Posts: 2536

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I'm here to Support RASTA MONKEY! 1) It doesnt matter if you bought the game or not. 2) The score cheats are just 1 star difficulty hacks, they were uploaded when $ony didnt patched us away yet. 3) I use CFW for everything, free games, till w/e multitasking 4) WE DO NOT COPY OTHER LEVELS, 1 Great member just uploaded a whole bunch of PSN levels, which I by the way played, and I was surprised that such quality levels are even allowed on PSN, SHAME ON THE PEOPLE WHO MADE THOSE. OUR LEVELS, however, are of great quality, arent CR4P, and fun to play and beat, and share scores with each other! 5) You're just an a$$hole

2010-02-10 18:37:00 Author: Mr. Waffle Posts: 2

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You know, I didn't even mention CFW whatsoever, you are as bad as dsw or whatever his name was. What, is the new patch getting YOU paranoid with the new saves on what might come? I wasn't even referring to the black market as your site! (However mentions of fullmon, and saves there led me to your site, I should've reworded what I said so it didn't seem like your site was it) It doesn't matter if Fullmoon or your site was primaritly made for CFW users, it still promotes piracy, because Pirates can use all that. I've seen several conversations on places that talked about piracy that was referring to your site for fullmoon, hacks, saves, patches etc. I don't remember what site it was nor do I want to find it again (i'm surprised I didn't get any viruses when I was searching back then) and I had quite a # of comments and Private messages on my Youtube channel asking for saves, when after checking out there channel they had recently seen/rated/favorited a LBP PSP ISO link vid (and some also seen/rated/favorited a video made by 1 of your members) That is what got me to looking about piracy for LBP in the 1st place and what got me worried/paranoid that piracy might ruin LBP PSP. Maybe now with the 2.03 update, they'll stop bothering me. The Cons outweigh the Pros of Fullmoon and since you saw it there's no need to repeat it (piracy and level stealing, I can take back on the quality of the levels now but the # is still no where near the amount of quality online levels) So you really shouldn't say your 1100 members are innocent. Cause I'll bet you are way off (I'm guessing 20-40% of your members are pirating) And since I'm slightly ticked off at you guys (I'm not stupid, I saw the topic) and you wanted to mention your site here, I just want to say you have just revealed your site to a place where not only some members are in touch with the developers but also the developers come and visit periodically. So congratulatious! Cambridge and MM will soon be disguising themselves as members on your site!

2010-02-10 18:44:00 Author: JKthree Posts: 1125

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I already know 2 of the 1100 Members that i dont like and who come here to insult everyone who thinks failmoon (!) is stupid...

2010-02-10 19:40:00 Author: Arrestor Posts: 363

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Can we just stop the violence

2010-02-10 19:50:00 Author: Kern Posts: 5078

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And as us Kiwis would say: You ****. 5) You're just an a$$hole Hey, thanks for bringing this thread down to your level! You may go now.

2010-02-10 20:46:00 Author: Taffey Posts: 3187

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Such risks were certainly known by Mm and any other developers when it comes to working with the PSP. That's all there really is to it. Do we at LBPC condone such acts? No. Do we allow open discussions as long as they aren't directed at how one may go about hacking/pirating games? Yes. Do we allow such discussions to be conducted in a non-respective or non-productive manner? CLOSED.

2010-02-10 22:49:00 Author: supersickie Posts: 1366

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