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I just found this on the net whilst browsing around. Does'nt bode well for the PS3 players. Microsoft has confirmed that the first two DLC packs are are timed exclusive to the 360. It does'nt say how long unfortunatly. Pleased I got the 360 version now, but saying that, I don't play it, LBP soon took back over Link (http://www.oxm.co.uk/article.php?id=16374)

2010-01-07 18:55:00 Author: GruntosUK Posts: 1754

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...Anger...

2010-01-07 22:25:00 Author: gofurr360z Posts: 886

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yeah they said dlc would come out first for xbox i hope the ps3 one is better though

2010-01-07 22:39:00 Author: rseah Posts: 2701

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It bodes fine for the PS3. It bodes bad for Infinity Ward.

2010-01-07 22:53:00 Author: ButterflySamurai Posts: 98

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How does it bode bad for IW? They paid 50m for the GTA4 Episodes, even half of that is a good deal. I only played the campaign and spec ops, I HOPE its more Spec Ops, more proper 2p challenges, the two proper coop ones, the AC130 and the chopper gunner missions were the best.

2010-01-07 22:57:00 Author: GruntosUK Posts: 1754

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It bodes fine for the PS3. It bodes bad for Infinity Ward. Infinity Ward could have made deals with both MS and Sony, but they didn't. They didn't because this was worth more money. The only people losing out here are the people buying the games on PS3 I really hate this whole concept of exclusive DLC, tbh. Exclusive games is one thing, at least you know where you stand there, but exclusive DLC means you have to gamble when buying a copy of the game. Luckily for me, I don't care about this game at all

2010-01-07 22:59:00 Author: rtm223 Posts: 6497

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i have it for xbox but i dont like the game very much

2010-01-07 23:01:00 Author: Snrm Posts: 6419

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I've got the Xbox version so I'm good, but I agree with Rtm that ll this DLC exclusive stuff is a headache!

2010-01-07 23:03:00 Author: mrsupercomputer Posts: 1335

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It is only timed exclusively as far as I can tell - both get it. At least people with XBox live will know that the few hundred dollars they paid towards XBox live over the past few years goes towards getting expansion packs quicker. Although, they still have to pay the extra to actually GET the pack.

2010-01-07 23:06:00 Author: ButterflySamurai Posts: 98

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they still have to pay the extra to actually GET the pack. What do you mean extra DLC is the same price on xbox as it is on Ps3

2010-01-07 23:15:00 Author: Snrm Posts: 6419

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It is only timed exclusively as far as I can tell - both get it. At least people with XBox live will know that the few hundred dollars they paid towards XBox live over the past few years goes towards getting expansion packs quicker. Although, they still have to pay the extra to actually GET the pack. And I'd rather pay for the superb services of xbox live than get the half baked crap that is the PSN. Xbox live is far superior (and I'm not a fanboy I can afford and own both, so make a balanced choice), its SO much better. To be honest, I wish we had the LBP game with the Xbox interface.

2010-01-07 23:17:00 Author: GruntosUK Posts: 1754

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My friend and I had soooo much fun playing coop split screen on burgertown. We placed turrets inside the diner and fired out the windows. What a firefight.

2010-01-07 23:24:00 Author: BasketSnake Posts: 2391

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And I'd rather pay for the superb services of xbox live than get the half baked crap that is the PSN. Xbox live is far superior (and I'm not a fanboy I can afford and own both, so make a balanced choice), its SO much better. To be honest, I wish we had the LBP game with the Xbox interface. I have been playing mw2 for the last few hours, I have never had any problems with Psn... you do not really get anything for the money you give microsoft... Also, in the case of mw2 - neither microsoft nor sony hosts matches and that is what matters. Sure, they host the menu, but when you are paying them to provide a service, you do not expect players to be made host. It does not matter what you pay them, they do not host the game - which is a little sad. It is sad all round because A - that was their justification to charge you and B - because they took away dedicated servers from the PC edition too. It is extra on top of the cost of the game and on top of XBox live. I am not suggesting they will go bust - but sometimes it is better to take money from all your customers than to have an external company give you money to exclude some of them.

2010-01-07 23:25:00 Author: ButterflySamurai Posts: 98

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And I'd rather pay for the superb services of xbox live than get the half baked crap that is the PSN. Xbox live is far superior (and I'm not a fanboy I can afford and own both, so make a balanced choice), its SO much better. To be honest, I wish we had the LBP game with the Xbox interface. Oh thanks god, finally someone to agree with me Microsoft ftw

2010-01-07 23:37:00 Author: Unknown User

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I agree 100% too. The only reason I'm playing MW2 on PS3 is because of the controls. And well...I have one friend who own the game but he never plays it. Once WoW...always WoW. I too like the xbox interface but the network is just ten times better. I've never had a problem connecting to my friend to play borderlands.

2010-01-07 23:42:00 Author: BasketSnake Posts: 2391

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I am not suggesting they will go bust - but sometimes it is better to take money from all your customers than to have an external company give you money to exclude some of them. I'm sorry, but you don't have access to the full breakdown of the finances. They will have weighed up the potential losses of releasing the timed exclusive and the projected long term impact of customers who feel neglected. They will then have made an informed decision. That's how these things happen. They aren't going to lose out from this. On the subject of XBOX live. I probably am a fanboy, I can afford an XBOX, but I just don't care for it. I wouldn't consider the ?3-?5/month an issue for online service. That's the price of a pint! Each month. Not exactly something worth worrying about...

2010-01-07 23:47:00 Author: rtm223 Posts: 6497

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I have been playing mw2 for the last few hours, I have never had any problems with Psn... you do not really get anything for the money you give microsoft... Also, in the case of mw2 - neither microsoft nor sony hosts matches and that is what matters. Sure, they host the menu, but when you are paying them to provide a service, you do not expect players to be made host. It is extra on top of the cost of the game and on top of XBox live. I am not suggesting they will go bust - but sometimes it is better to take money from all your customers than to have an external company give you money to exclude some of them. Actually, you get dedicated servers through Xbox live, thats what I pay for, I get DLC quicker, thats what I pay for, so you're argument I get nothing is invalid. I'm told when the servers are down, probably twice a year, why, cause thats what I pay for. I'm far from a fanboy, you obvioulsy don't know me, I spend most of my time in LBP and not on xbox, I prefer xbox live, you have to pay sure, but its one hell of a better experience.

2010-01-07 23:47:00 Author: GruntosUK Posts: 1754

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I'm sorry, but you don't have access to the full breakdown of the finances. They will have weighed up the potential losses of releasing the timed exclusive and the projected long term impact of customers who feel neglected. They will then have made an informed decision. That's how these things happen. They aren't going to lose out from this. On the subject of XBOX live. I probably am a fanboy, I can afford an XBOX, but I just don't care for it. I wouldn't consider the ?3-?5/month an issue for online service. That's the price of a pint! Each month. Not exactly something worth worrying about... Projected and predicted are different. In the case of mw2 - it is the cost of the game twice over to save your profile for you. I think it would be worth it if microsoft actually did some hosting - that would be an improvement. Just now all 4 platforms use the exact same mechanism - they pick a host from the players. It is strange microsoft are the only one of the big 3 that cannot afford to host their players for free. As for the interface - I prefer the PS3s, the XBox after the revamp looked like the guy in R and D played a Wii then tried to explain it to a blind person over the phone. Edit - You do not get Dedicated servers for mw2. Not for playing the actual game. Even the PC version does not. It was widely publicised. When you are playing online, sure XBox live chooses who you will play against, but the actual game is hosted by another person playing.

2010-01-07 23:49:00 Author: ButterflySamurai Posts: 98

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Projected and predicted are different. Hehe, like it matters. You know what I meant! Me thinks someone is looking for a fight here, has anyone got a don't feed the trolls JPEG handy?

2010-01-07 23:55:00 Author: rtm223 Posts: 6497

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Its a valid point - they are basically guessing. Besides, there is more to life than money - if you can get more money by alienating a few million people that in no way means you should.

2010-01-07 23:58:00 Author: ButterflySamurai Posts: 98

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In the case of mw2 - it is the cost of the game twice over to save your profile for you. How does this work, explain please. I think it would be worth it if microsoft actually did some hosting - that would be an improvement. They host dedicated servers, and it they are down, I have reason to complain, why, cause I PAY for the privelage. They aren't ever down, trust me. Just now all 4 platforms use the exact same mechanism - they pick a host from the players. 4 platforms? It is strange microsoft are the only one of the big 3 that cannot afford to host their players for free. Is it strange XBOX had the GTA4 exclusive, Fallout 3 exclusive DLC, and now Modern Warfare 2 exclusive? As for the interface - I prefer the PS3s, the XBox after the revamp looked like the guy in R and D played a Wii then tried to explain it to a blind person over the phone. Bigger, better, bolder than the PS3, why, R&D from my ?40 a year, nevermind, theres always home, lol. I aint a fanboy, I never use my 360 or Wii, I spend all time on the PS3, but it could be a whole load better with some cash flow.

2010-01-07 23:58:00 Author: GruntosUK Posts: 1754

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They connect you to a group of players. They pick the fastest player in the group. That player is the host for the whole of the match. You do not use microsofts servers. This is how it works. PC, PS3, XBox, Wii - Online only costs money for one of them. I was being sincere, it seems you misunderstand me. I really mean it would have been worth it if microsoft did the hosting, but they do not. Not for the actual PLAYING portion of the game, just for the menu. This is a gripe I have - if the host quits, the game stalls until another can be found. If the fastest player isn't very fast, the game lags a lot. It would have been worth paying the extra money to use a dedicated host. It would be worth paying the extra money to play mw2 on a dedicated server. However, you cannot, legitimately get dedicated servers for even the PC game anymore which is a platform that traditionally had them. That is not how the current XBox live system works with regards to this game. The fastest player hosts the game. XBox live does not.

2010-01-08 00:00:00 Author: ButterflySamurai Posts: 98

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Ok yeah, I get the DLC for games you don't. Dedicated servers or not. Thats worth my money. To be honest I don't actually care, I've been playing LBP for a year now, hence me being here, I don't care whether you are right or I am wrong. I'll find much more possibilities with a few pistons and a few mag switches than any game (COD, Gears, Uncharted) in the next two years will give me

2010-01-08 00:07:00 Author: GruntosUK Posts: 1754

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I do, I just have to wait and to be honest, I probably would have anyway. Its good to let the XBox beta test the maps first - the DLC maps for the last games were full of holes when it first came out, some of them stand now. The PC community are feeling the pinch on the loss of dedicated servers more than you will - traditionally, clans had their own server which they set the rules on. It meant they could say... program the server to always put clan members on the same team or give all members of the clan power to kick guests. It also meant they got to pick the maps, so if you joined a public clan server, guaranteed you only got put on the maps they were good at. However, they were proper servers hosted at a datacentre, with connections a lot better than a standard home connection - you can still have private matches, but the lag begins to show.

2010-01-08 00:09:00 Author: ButterflySamurai Posts: 98

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Lol, you could be right there, live users could be the beta testers, I like your slant on things

2010-01-08 00:10:00 Author: GruntosUK Posts: 1754

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Lol, you could be right there, live users could be the beta testers, I like your slant on things Well - if both do get it eventually, the first players were always going to be the informal testers. Did you play the last modern warfare? It was awful for glitches, although, on the whole - I think the maps were a little better BUT I would much rather play the new maps - the old ones had places you could get underneath the scenery, float over the towns, etc it made ending up with cheaters too easy. The old one had way too many holes in. I have only seen one so far on mw2 - and its not very useful. The old ones were much more open to abuse (and it happened a lot). I have never seen the one bug I know about abused. There was the javelin bug too, but it was fixed fairly quickly. Some of the first modern warfare bugs still stand *TODAY* on both systems. At least if they have to release on one system and then another in a few months time they will fix the bugs in between.

2010-01-08 00:17:00 Author: ButterflySamurai Posts: 98

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I agree, finally I thought COD4 was a much better all round experience, no over powered Akimbos, the maps were better, and the public beta eliminated most of the problems. Every online game now needs an online beta to remove the bugs and glitches that plagued and got me sick of Modern Warfare 2. Its not balanced. It will always have a them against you type of craic, unlocking better weapons will always have that divide in the players. LBP, none of it. Play, Create, Share, the best three words in gaming for a LONG time

2010-01-08 00:19:00 Author: GruntosUK Posts: 1754

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Infinity Ward could have made deals with both MS and Sony, but they didn't. They didn't because this was worth more money. The only people losing out here are the people buying the games on PS3 I really hate this whole concept of exclusive DLC, tbh. Exclusive games is one thing, at least you know where you stand there, but exclusive DLC means you have to gamble when buying a copy of the game. Luckily for me, I don't care about this game at all Me too! *Hi-5* I only play this game with friends, imo, its terrible compared to CoD 2 and CoD4: MW.

2010-01-08 00:28:00 Author: creelers Posts: 275

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We aint losing out rtm, we have LBP. Like I said before, there's infinite possibilities in this game with a piston and a few keys, theres none in shooting some random in the face. Until the next bi-yearly update of course

2010-01-08 00:30:00 Author: GruntosUK Posts: 1754

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And both consols will get the DLC - the wording is that XBox gets it first. Although, I think I have spent a lot more time with LBP than COD. I have not bothered to join a Cod Forum or Clan for instance.

2010-01-08 00:30:00 Author: ButterflySamurai Posts: 98

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And both consols will get the DLC - the wording is that XBox gets it first. Although, I think I have spent a lot more time with LBP than COD. I have not bothered to join a Cod Forum or Clan for instance. I dont care who gets what. Ive been playing, creating and sharing on LBP for a year now. I don't see it stopping. Game of the year is irrelevant, probably the best I've played so far, the depth of the engine, and how far you can take it is limitless only by your imagination.

2010-01-08 00:33:00 Author: GruntosUK Posts: 1754

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We've gone far from the original topic, reckon compher will be in wielding his lock hammer

2010-01-08 00:34:00 Author: GruntosUK Posts: 1754

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All I meant was, although it is a good game, I think it NEEDS the extra DLC - whereas LBP is a little more free. Plus I get to build levels. Oddly enough - on the last COD, you could build levels for the PC edition. They took that away with dedicated servers. =o( I wonder what maps there will be? I hope there is none in the rain, and at least 1 that is more open, and at least 1 that is clearly divided into 2 halfs for team games - the current maps leave people looking kinda lost as to where to go.

2010-01-08 00:37:00 Author: ButterflySamurai Posts: 98

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Aww, i missed the argument. XBL > PSN. And we get Forza. Forza FTW. Finally, i really hope PSN does start that 'premium' crap, that will shut PSN people up

2010-01-15 21:08:00 Author: Unknown User

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its lucky modern warfare 2 was a disappointment, if it was Modern warfare map pack I would of being upuset.

2010-01-16 12:49:00 Author: toon_army_azza Posts: 115

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Is the gta IV dlc ever coming out for ps3?

2010-01-16 16:44:00 Author: litled Posts: 165

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Except, wait wait wait... with psn, i at least don't have to PAY to hear 8-year-olds on MW2 calling me a noob for knifing them from behind. I WOULD have to pay for that privilege on Xbox live. ergo psn > live

2010-01-17 18:50:00 Author: Ragfell Posts: 729

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Or you could set your voice chat to friends only. Or you could mute them in the game. Or you could ignore them. Or you could shoot them and tell them to shut the **** up. Or you could find a game without an immature fan base. Either way, i would rather be on live than PSN

2010-01-20 17:47:00 Author: Unknown User

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Let's start a new one...Forza is pooooooor!

2010-01-20 19:23:00 Author: jackofcourse Posts: 1494

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Or you could just play PC and get a better controller, better graphics on most games, get a multitude of games which will never reach consoles and communicate however the hell you want... On topic I'll be looking forward to hearing about the DLC just to see if it has anything decent in it but I doubt I'd buy it as I'm getting better at making mods for Arma 2 so my dependence on CoD for cheap chopper gunner thrills is dying off .

2010-01-20 19:38:00 Author: Shermzor Posts: 1330

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apparantly MS only has the exclusive rights for one month. I can wait a small 30 days, besides, MW2 is crap anyway, doubt I'll buy DLC.

2010-01-21 07:10:00 Author: oldage Posts: 2824

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Was glad to hear it was only 30 days. I only have PS3 so not interested who gets what first, but just didn't want to have to wait 6 months or anything. New maps will be welcome as tbh I'm not a huge fan of many of the maps in MW2. And has been pointed out, the month the 360 owners have it will give IW a chance to find all the bugs and glitches that are no doubt prevalent.

2010-01-21 13:53:00 Author: Matt 82 Posts: 1096

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here's a confirmation for those Xbox people that are still paranoia over it. http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/microsoft-clarifies-mod-war-2-dlc-deal

2010-01-21 15:37:00 Author: oldage Posts: 2824

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Is this thread still serving a purpose or is it devolving into something less productive?

2010-01-21 16:02:00 Author: supersickie Posts: 1366

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It's devolving No need to thank me....

2010-01-21 16:48:00 Author: Unknown User

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Heh, 30 day exclusive so late in the day is money well spend. I'm sure the 10 people who haven't decided on a platform yet will be swayed.

2010-01-21 17:34:00 Author: Syroc Posts: 3193

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I heard its a Two-Week deal

2010-01-21 17:38:00 Author: Nurolight Posts: 918

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To be fair I think while the 30 day exclusivity might not seem much, I think the idea was that it swayed people when the game came out rather than now. Sure most everyone has already decided which version to get (and bought it by the sounds of things), but I'm sure just the suggestion of exclusive maps was enough to get some undecided folks to plump for the 360 version.

2010-01-21 19:01:00 Author: Matt 82 Posts: 1096

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Hey, see the last post on the page previous to this? Where i said you don't have to thank me? I lied. Go thank me.

2010-01-21 23:25:00 Author: Unknown User

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