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How NOT to create a level (aka Taffey's list of community level pet peeves)

Archive: 107 posts

jackofcourse has impressed me with his excellent Guide and Tips to Creating on PSP (https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=t=20588), so I felt inspired to create an anti-guide of sorts.

I have played hundreds of community levels so far. Many of them are good, some of them are great, and a vast army of levels are absolutely terrible. Many of these dismally inadequate works of creative inability share the same characteristics, and I thought it would be fun to list them out here. Surprisingly, many of these awful attributes are unique to the PSP, but there's still plenty of oldies and goodies that can be found on PS3 user-created levels.

Just for fun, I'd like to consider this guide an encyclopedia of all the icky things we've all seen over and over on the Community Moon. Have you found something that annoys you that's not on this list? Post it here and I'll update my thread. With luck, perhaps an aspiring creator or two will stumble across this post and spare us all a little bit of pain before publishing their masterwork 5 minute creation.

Without further ado, and in no particular order, I present you my (slightly sarcastic) guide on how NOT to create a level:


Grid-painted stairs: Select a material, select a brush shape, and hey there's a grid. Wow, it creates some great-looking stairs!! The chore of running down miles and miles of fabulous stairs is almost as fun as jumping up them. What a great workout for the thumbs.

Don't name your level: Regardless of what language it's in, nothing says "play me!" like a work of art named "Unnamed Level". Be sure to also leave the default Cambridge Studios level icon in place as it helps distinguish your creation from everyone else's.

Unglued jetpack: Let's be honest for a moment. Nobody really enjoys that whole "gameplay" thing, so what better way to bore the ears off of someone than to give them a free ride through your level with a loose jetpack? They can avoid all your carefully crafted obstacles and see parts of the level they were never intended to see. It's extra annoying if you make the tether really long - that way you can't see what it's snagging off-screen.

Off-center wheels: Why place a motor bolt in the uninteresting dead center of a wheel when you can create exciting, random physics by placing it off-center? Rocket cars are that much better when they remind you of broken shopping carts.

Huge piles of score bubbles: LBP is all about reaching multi-million point scores, which is why we all like diving into giant buckets full of bubbles for no reason. It's so fun to watch your multiplier flip from 100x back around to 2x, you'll hardly notice the unbelievable slowdown caused by 500 loose score bubbles on screen all at the same time.

Rocket powered camels:Ah, the PSP equivalent of the rocket-powered cheetah. It's such a cool game-provided item that I'm sure nobody else in the world has thought of adding it to their levels. Go ahead, use it. You know you want to.

Rocket powered red sports cars: See #6.

Glokenpop: OMG, teh song i have nevar heard befor! Do as the lyrics suggest and let us hear it over and over and over and over again.

Unseen high-speed impact explosive emitters: The easiest kinds of obstacles to dodge are the ones you never see. To guarantee death and the inability of a player to complete your level, hook them up to proximity switches.

Race gates that you overshoot: Finishing races gets boring after a while, so help players avoid this drudgery by making sure they fly right past the finish line. Rocket powered anythings are a great way to ensure this. Not only will a missed finish marker negate any race score earned, but it also helps lend a sense of pointlessness to the whole experience.

Scorpions: Ah, the game-provided scorpion creature. They are beyond entertaining in swarms of 100 or more. It's best to advertise them in the title of your level, and you'll get extra plays and hearts if you spell it "scorpians".

Use only the back layer: Everything gets easier with this fantastic trick. If you don't feel like playing, just jump forward a layer and walk out of the level! Yay! [Arrestor]

Don't test anything: The element of surprise isn't just for players, it's for creators too. There's just nothing quite as thrilling as play testing your level for the first time after it's been published. Will it break? Probably. How exciting!! [Arrestor]

Sponge lifts that get stuck: People love restarting for silly reasons, and nothing is sillier than a one-way sponge lift. D?j? vu is a wonderful feeling and increases replay value, because people love restarting for silly reasons. Oh! D?j? vu! [Beed28]

Lack of magic mouths: Story? Screw the story! Your players come here for game play, not fancy words, so don't bother to explain anything. Players can read minds, so I'm sure they won't need to waste 5 hours figuring out how to solve your random puzzle. [Beed28]

Empty levels: Just don't bother putting anything in your level and leave it empty. Ah, the artistic purity of a clean canvas. Tell players that you made a stealth bomber, and they will spend hours looking around for it. [Doopz479]

Copy someone else's level: Nobody will guess that you didn't create Super Sackball! all by yourself. It's extra fun if you put a bunch of fart sounds in the level and break the mechanics before republishing. [napero7]

Advertise anti-H4H: Well played! In a game that no longer has a reason for hearts other than their own merit, it's best to discourage people from leaving comments that request H4H. Now, if only they could leave any kind of comments at all, you'd be in business. [Darth J464]

Checkpoints miles away from several hard obstacles: You took time working on that obstacle to make it extra difficult, so stick the nearest checkpoint as far away from it as possible. Repeatedly suffering the same death at the same spot is extremely relaxing. [Coxy224]

Fill template levels with random premade objects: This technique takes skill, but it's well worth the effort. It's best to electrify everything in sight to make sure the level is impossible to complete. [napero7]

The creator advantage: Don't you hate it when other pesky players beat *your* high score on *your* level? Just add a hidden emitter with tons of score bubbles that only you know how to activate, and you'll be the king of your own little world forever. [KernelM]

Endless corridors: Nothing says fun more than running down a corridor for half an hour! Be sure not to put anything remotely interesting along the way or else your players might actually stay awake by the time they get to the end. For added annoyance, combine this with #19 and make sure the last checkpoint is waaaaaaaaay back at the beginning of the marathon. [Fastbro]

Hoardes of enemies that gang up on you: Everybody loves popping brains, so make sure your emitted creatures never stop coming. Force your players to flawlessly execute dozens of your uber-tough creatures in order to reach the end of a section, only to be killed within sight of the next checkpoint. It's best if your creatures pile up on each other to make the experience that much more horrible. I mean enjoyable. [Domik12]

LLLLLLAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGG: Things that happen in real time are boring. Ttttthhhhheeeeyyyyy aaaarrrrrreeee mmmuuuucccchhhh bbbbeeetttteeerrrrr wwwwiiiiiittttthhhhhh llllloooootttttssss oooofffff llllaaaaggggggg. To ensure your level plays like that last sentence reads, spawn a swarm of loose objects somewhere in your level. Lag: It's the gift that keeps on giving.

abbrev spch bubls: typng things out al th way is hard so don do it. ppl wll b able 2 figur out wut u mean anywy. an don use captl letrs thyre dum. [theswweet]

Unappealing level description: Nothing makes me want to play a level more than a description that says "My first crappy level and some other stuff I made on the bus today." There's just no reason to make your level sound appealing, because everyone will know how awesome it is after they play it. You'll get even more plays if you include "FREE PRIZES!!!!1!!" somewhere in the description as well. [Rogar]

Corner editor? What's that?: Complicated shapes can hurt your eyes, so just make everything out of right angles and universally appealing little squares. Congratulations, you're the mayor of Block Town! Be there and be square. [CyberSora]

Spare me the details: Oh, so you've got a level that's all nifty and has complicated stuff in it? It's just because you want to show off to your friends. Who needs "quality" (whatever that is) or stuff that actually works? Just make a cardboard block, add a rocket, and now it's a Super Space Sled. That will wow the crowd. [CyberSora]

Art is soooo yesterday: Art is for losers. It's easier to see when everything is the same color, so just choose one sticker and use it on everything. Nobody really likes scenery anyway. Besides, it's like hard to do and stuff and I don't feel like trying. [CyberSora]

Ambiguous Icon: You've decided to take the plunge and actually select a level icon, so why not make things as confusing as possible? Your level is about robots from outer space, so use something abstract and nonsensical like alphabet sticker "N". It could stand for "nice", "neat", or "no idea". Most likely though, it will mean "never played". [BlueBulletBill]

Don't glue down switches: Everyone loves accidentally shoving a switch off a ledge. Who cares? It probably didn't open a door to the next part of the level anyway. When you see your 1-star rating, remember: It's opposite day! [PaddyJ]

Don't glue down checkpoints either: Nothing is nicer than an unglued checkpoint that just so happens to roll off a ledge and into a nearby hazard. Wee, endless deaths! It's ok, all checkpoints in LBP PSP are infinite, so you'll be fine. Just try to ignore the fact that by the time you get done reading this you will have died 17 times. [Arradi]

No scoreboards: You know what's wrong with scoreboards? Players leave when they reach them. No, don't leave me! I want you to stay FOREVER!! Make your level scoreboard-free and soon you'll have your own little colony of permanent residents desperately searching for a way out. The fun will never end! [CyberSora]

Checkpoints over lethal materials: You know what's better than dying? NEVER-ENDING RECURSIVE LOOPS OF DEATH!!! Simply place a checkpoint over a pit of gas, and if the player is silly enough to activate it they'll die over and over again. Fun, fun, fun! Fastbro

Use sponge for everything: Ah, sponge. You can stand on it, grab it, drag it, swing from it... maybe even eat it. It's the most universally awesome material in the game, so use it for everything! Nothing beats basking in a sea of splotchy yellow goodness. flamingemu

To Sony: A great idea!: There's no better way to communicate your deepest desires to a large corporation than by publishing it in a LittleBigPlanet level. First, make sure your PSN is boldly displayed on a large chunk of basic wood. Next you need to add a magic mouth that explains your awesome water/paintinator/lighting idea, and don't use punctuation! Periods and commas only serve to confuse video game executives, so leave them out. End your request with "plz plz plzzzzzzzzz!!!11!", make your level copyable, and before you know it your dream will become a reality! Maybe. CyberSora



Edit: Added #11.
Edit: Added #12-#17. Thanks to Arrestor, Beed28, Doopz479, and napero7.
Edit: Added #18-#20. Thanks to Darth J464, Coxy224, and napero7.
Edit: Added #21. Thanks to KernelM.
Edit: Added #22-#24. Thanks to Fastbro and Domik12.
Edit: Added #25-#26. Thanks to theswweet and Rogar.
Edit: Added #27-#29. Thanks to CyberSora.
Edit: Added #30. Thanks to BlueBulletBill.
Edit: Added #31. Thanks to PaddyJ.
Edit: Added #32-#33. Thanks to Arradi and CyberSora.
Edit: Added #34-#36. Thanks to Fastbro, flamingemu, and CyberSora		2010-01-02 21:58:00

Author:
Taffey
Posts: 3187

no 4 is unfair. You CANT center wheels automatically like ps3. And if you try REALLY hard to get it in the middle, it's usually still off center2010-01-02 22:59:00

Author:
Unknown User

no 4 is unfair. You CANT center wheels automatically like ps3. And if you try REALLY hard to get it in the middle, it's usually still off centerI don't mean slightly off-center. I'm referring to motor bolts that have 20% of the wheel to one side of them and 80% of the wheel on the other side. I've even seen a few instances where the bolts were located directly on the edges of the wheels.2010-01-03 01:50:00

Author:
Taffey
Posts: 3187

HEY! i tried as hard as i could to center those lol2010-01-03 02:02:00

Author:
Littlebigdude805
Posts: 1924

LOL! Well, in that case you're off the hook... But just you. And PaddyJ. 2010-01-03 04:49:00

Author:
Taffey
Posts: 3187

And I was the first to use 'Glockenpop' too! (Well, I probably wasn't but it was in the beta that I made Little Platformer so it still counts! )

Good thread...there's lots and lots to add to that list!!		2010-01-03 05:01:00

Author:
jackofcourse
Posts: 1494

Awesome thread Taffey! I thoroughly enjoyed it. I'll keep my fingers crossed for a part 2 2010-01-03 06:55:00

Author:
amazingflyingpoo
Posts: 1515

And I was the first to use 'Glockenpop' too! (Well, I probably wasn't but it was in the beta that I made Little Platformer so it still counts! )

Good thread...there's lots and lots to add to that list!!

Well, I think you did indeed have the very, very first community level that ever featured that song. That definitely means everyone else copied you!

Oh, and I added #11 to the list as well. 		2010-01-03 07:07:00

Author:
Taffey
Posts: 3187

12. Only use one Layer: Everything gets easier with this fantastic trick. besides that everyone can see your roxxor mechanics (or just walks out of the level)!
13. Do not test anything: This adds a massive amount of suprises to your level (even for yourselve)		2010-01-03 12:31:00

Author:
Arrestor
Posts: 363

14. Sponge Lifts that get stuck (intentionally): Great method to force people to restart the level, because Deja Vu is a wonderful feeling and it increases the replay value.
15. Lack of Magic Mouths: Story? Screw the story! Your players will come here for game play, so do not explain anything to players. They will then need to waste 5 hours figuring out how to solve this puzzle.		2010-01-03 14:13:00

Author:
Beed28
Posts: 200

If you select the wheel with the popit and right after that you select the motor bolt it puts it right in the center 2010-01-03 14:31:00

Author:
napero7
Posts: 1653

16.Empty Levels: Don't bother putting anything in your level just leave it empty, it's a very unique design!2010-01-03 14:46:00

Author:
Doopz
Posts: 5592

17. Ruining copyable levels.
What could be more fun than finding a copyable level and filling it with fart sound effects and publishing it.		2010-01-03 15:49:00

Author:
napero7
Posts: 1653

Ok, I updated the thread and added #'s 12-17. Thanks everone - good stuff!



If you select the wheel with the popit and right after that you select the motor bolt it puts it right in the center You're a genius! I've done something similar with placing stickers, but I never thought of trying that with a motor bolt. This is an excellent create tip - thanks!!		2010-01-03 17:36:00

Author:
Taffey
Posts: 3187

Heres one: Anti-H4H levels for a system with no H4H levels on it.2010-01-03 20:11:00

Author:
Darth J464
Posts: 343

18. Checkpoints miles away from several hard obstacles: you took time working on that obstacle to make it extra difficult, so stick the checkpoint far away from it so the player can go through the obstacle several times even if they don't die on it!2010-01-03 20:43:00

Author:
Coxy224
Posts: 2645

19. Stick water and paint ball guns at the finish. Sure, they cant be used any more, but at least you can say you have them in the description.2010-01-03 20:47:00

Author:
ButterflySamurai
Posts: 98

19. Stick water and paint ball guns at the finish. Sure, they cant be used any more, but at least you can say you have them in the description.
Yeah, that's really annoying and bad to do buuuuuut...



... this is the psp section 		2010-01-03 21:26:00

Author:
napero7
Posts: 1653

Yeah, that's really annoying and bad to do buuuuuut...



... this is the psp section

It is okay - you will probably get both DLCs for the PSP eventually but my bad.		2010-01-03 21:35:00

Author:
ButterflySamurai
Posts: 98

I have one
19. Fill the templates with random premade objects. It's even better if the level is actually impossible to complete.

I came a across such a level... it was named "Unnamed Level" 		2010-01-03 21:36:00

Author:
napero7
Posts: 1653

Awesome! Added #'s 18-20. 2010-01-03 23:28:00

Author:
Taffey
Posts: 3187

It is okay - you will probably get both DLCs for the PSP eventually but my bad.

Not a chance

The psp would blow up before it got anywhere near having water in it 		2010-01-03 23:56:00

Author:
jackofcourse
Posts: 1494

I made a level to honor this hilarious thread! Please check it out!

The Epic Level: Anti-H4H Scorpians (www.lbpcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20854)		2010-01-05 11:40:00

Author:
jeffcu28
Posts: 648

21: Creator Advantage: Oh i know! Why not add a emitter with tonnes of score bubbles that only you knows how to activate, that'll make sure you are top of the leaderboard!


does that count?		2010-01-05 11:56:00

Author:
Kern
Posts: 5078

The hours and ridiculous word count I put into that guide is seeming a bit redundant now...I should have just done something like this! haha

Always a good read 		2010-01-05 13:33:00

Author:
jackofcourse
Posts: 1494

I made a level to honor this hilarious thread! Please check it out!

The Epic Level: Anti-H4H Scorpians (www.lbpcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20854)This is TOTALLY HILARIOUS!!!!! I posted my full review in your level showcase thread.... Such awesome stuff. Everybody, if you think this thread is slightly amusing then you will love Anti-H4H Scorpians. Go play it now, and rate it 1 star! Or 5 stars..... No, you should rate it 5 stars.




21: Creator Advantage: Oh i know! Why not add a emitter with tonnes of score bubbles that only you knows how to activate, that'll make sure you are top of the leaderboard!


does that count?It does in my book. Added!




The hours and ridiculous word count I put into that guide is seeming a bit redundant now...I should have just done something like this! haha

Always a good read LOL No, your guide is awesome and a true benefit to the LBP community as a whole. I'm really glad you brought it to the PSP side of the house as well, as there are plenty of people who could use its help (me included!). In any case, glad you're enjoying the thread. 		2010-01-07 19:23:00

Author:
Taffey
Posts: 3187

So is Glockenpop the PSP's version of Atlas by Battles in the PS3?
Cause nobody uses that song for some reason.		2010-01-08 18:48:00

Author:
stylesomg
Posts: 2

That was hilarious! 2010-01-08 21:47:00

Author:
Lleonard Pler
Posts: 277

So is Glockenpop the PSP's version of Atlas by Battles in the PS3?
Cause nobody uses that song for some reason.No, I'd say it was the equivalent of "My Patch". I think it's the first music object you find in the game, so tons of people use it because they want to publish something before continuing Story Mode.		2010-01-09 01:08:00

Author:
Taffey
Posts: 3187

22.Endless Corridors: Nothing says fun more than running down a corridor for half an hour! Try not to put in anything remotely interesting or that might spoil the fun!2010-01-11 20:30:00

Author:
Fastbro
Posts: 1277

I meet several times in community levels such sad thing:

somewhere in level there is emitter, that do unlimited number of enemies , that you can kill. That enemies just after its appearing go to you side. And when you come to them there is a long line of enemies. Problem is that after you kill one, two or three enemies there is some enemies in front of you and you will die with its help. So you must kill big number of enemies without single mistake in you moves, if you do mistake - you must start the battle with long line of enemies from the beginning. Yes, in some case there is checkpoint not far from this place, but its only save you time between unsuccessful unlimited tries of win this battle. Yes, maybe you can go through such place after defeating ten or twenty enemies, but how many tries you do before it? And will be you so patient or just turn off such level?		2010-01-13 10:40:00

Author:
Domik12
Posts: 838

Nice!

Thread updated with #22-#24.		2010-01-14 01:28:00

Author:
Taffey
Posts: 3187

sry four tah bunp...budd i god a noo won1

dond uo hade id wen peoble tak wike thees?

oh and don't you hate it when someone takes your thing,puts it in their lvl,and says THEY made it...resulting in countless hearts? hasn't happened to ME but...i heard it sucks!		2010-02-15 22:45:00

Author:
theswweet
Posts: 2468

I like Glokenpop...2010-02-16 04:09:00

Author:
starkastor
Posts: 61

Thanks for the suggestions. There are a couple on here that I've broken to a very minor degree. (I used ONE scorpion and maybe 3 square high grid staircase, but those shouldn't be too annoying.)


I also have a question, should it be acceptable for me to have a lack of magic mouths if It makes sense that nothing talks, and I find other ways of implementing story and puzzle hints such as a short story explanation in the description and visual cues?		2010-02-17 01:34:00

Author:
Tas_man001
Posts: 8

Thanks for the suggestions. There are a couple on here that I've broken to a very minor degree. (I used ONE scorpion and maybe 3 square high grid staircase, but those shouldn't be too annoying.)The HORROR!!! In reality though, I'd say that's probably fine.




I also have a question, should it be acceptable for me to have a lack of magic mouths if It makes sense that nothing talks, and I find other ways of implementing story and puzzle hints such as a short story explanation in the description and visual cues?Absolutely fine. Magic mouths are totally optional, and if you don't need 'em then don't use 'em! Some people may say that they want more of a story or a purpose, and if that's what your level needs then yes, use them. On the other hand, other forms of hints and directions can be quite elegant if done right,

Look at jackofcourse's levels - he uses zero (or very few) magic mouths in his creations and they're totally awesome. 		2010-02-17 03:10:00

Author:
Taffey
Posts: 3187

I hate Glokenpop so much >:]

My favorite song of LBP is "The Good Life" by The Week That Was

I even included the song in my level "Scenic of the Leaves"

Good Song! 		2010-02-17 03:55:00

Author:
Spark151
Posts: 801

I used ONE scorpion and maybe 3 square high grid staircase, but those shouldn't be too annoying.?

Don't you mean scorpian? 		2010-02-17 08:42:00

Author:
Fastbro
Posts: 1277

I also have a question, should it be acceptable for me to have a lack of magic mouths if It makes sense that nothing talks, and I find other ways of implementing story and puzzle hints such as a short story explanation in the description and visual cues?

Be careful with information in the description. I always read them to see if the level appeals to me, but many people won't. So make sure there are enough clues in the level itself.

I agree with Taffey, it's fine if you don't have any magic mouths. In fact, I think if you can tell a story or explain a puzzle without any, all the better. As they say: show, don't tell. 		2010-02-18 09:12:00

Author:
Rogar
Posts: 2284

Added #25 and #26. Thanks theswweet and Rogar!




Don't you mean scorpian? LOL

You get a cookie for that. 		2010-02-18 17:46:00

Author:
Taffey
Posts: 3187

Cool, didn't realize I had one! 2010-02-18 18:40:00

Author:
Rogar
Posts: 2284

Anti-matter, cardboard and such are also extremely beautiful. I wonder why people try to hide them.2010-02-18 18:50:00

Author:
Unknown User

(I learned 27 the hard way. "Moon Meteor Madness" anyone? )

27. Don't Use The Corner Editor: Why use that silly little thing, when you can be the creme of the crop in "Block Town"! Nothing appeals to a player more than dull block shaped circles. Hey, you can even be mayor in "Block Town 2: Circle or Square?".

28. Spare Me The Details: Who needs those show-off sceneries, or those "quality" contraptions? Why not make a simple make a cardboard block, add a rocket and call it your cardboard box mobile? That will wow the crowd.

29. Art Is Soooo Yesterday: Seriously, art is for losers. Who needs stickers when you can just wing it and make "Boring Ville" the life of the party. Hey, for even more fun, why not make EVERYTHING the same color? Your fans will love the uniqueness of each object.

Hope this helps the community. 		2010-02-24 03:20:00

Author:
CyberSora
Posts: 5551

Nice! Added #27-#29. 2010-02-24 04:18:00

Author:
Taffey
Posts: 3187

I'm really not worthy of this thread, or the #30 spot, but anyways:

30. Abbreviate It!
Why bother looking for a sticker that will tell us anything about what you've made? Just use those handy letter stickers! They can stand for anything! Use N for nice, neat, or in most cases, never played!		2010-03-01 20:58:00

Author:
Voltergeist
Posts: 1702

Me likey. Added! 2010-03-02 00:33:00

Author:
Taffey
Posts: 3187

Lol, I hope more people get an account on this site so they could see this. I wish that some people could put more effort into their levels, instead of changing all the stickers in the down under level template and filling it with eggs (I'm sure they would get plenty of hearts for that).2010-03-03 00:08:00

Author:
juan=D
Posts: 10

Nice list! Ill make sure to use all these great tips when i make my new level! Thanks. 2010-03-06 21:15:00

Author:
Jrange378
Posts: 573

Nice list! Ill make sure to use all these great tips when i make my new level! Thanks.

Don't do it! You shall regret your scorpian ways! :kz:		2010-03-07 17:15:00

Author:
CyberSora
Posts: 5551

Don't do it! You shall regret your scorpian ways! :kz:

I used them, and I got three hearts! Yippee! 		2010-03-07 18:09:00

Author:
jeffcu28
Posts: 648

#31 - Don't glue down switches. Everyone loves accidentally shoving a switch off a ledge. Who cares? It probably didn't open a door to the next part of the level anyway. When you see your 1-star ratings, remember, It's opposite day!2010-03-07 18:22:00

Author:
Unknown User

#31 - Don't glue down switches. Everyone loves accidentally shoving a switch off a ledge. Who cares? It probably didn't open a door to the next part of the level anyway. When you see your 1-star ratings, remember, It's opposite day!LOL - That's perfect! I should have thought of that one a long time ago.

Added!		2010-03-07 18:34:00

Author:
Taffey
Posts: 3187

well this maybe kinda strange but these are all the things i try to avoid putting in my created level because i know how ******* annoying they ******* are!!!!!!!
i might just start doing these things just to annoy people (especially no. 31) !!! there is no bigger frustation than jumping and running round a 1 hour level trying to find a switch that opens a door 4 millon levels above your current position and you knock it off screen then the slow relization that because of this action you are never going to finish the stupid ****** level anyway....

i might just sart NOT gluing swithches to floors or buttons - that rminds me of something else - people dont glue down buttons on rocket cars and put the boost up too much so when you step on the button the button whizzes off so you have to get of the jet car walk a million miles and step on the button when the linked jet car is ages away which is quite funny

so, yes number 31 is gonna be out on my brand new levels very shortly MMMMWWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA LOL		2010-03-14 16:47:00

Author:
SockFace
Posts: 190

Don't forget:
Not gluing checkpoints down:
Nothing is nicer than an unglued checkpoint that just accidentally falls off to a nearby hazard. Wee, Endless deaths! Especially since in the PSP version all checkpoints are infinite-life 		2010-03-14 17:23:00

Author:
Arradi
Posts: 183

I laughed a lot, great fun to read! I haven't come across a lot of thim during my happy gadding but I'll be sure to exclude them from my own levels. Good work!

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii220/blackfalcon_album/animal0064.gif		2010-03-19 21:42:00

Author:
Blackfalcon
Posts: 409

I found this new one, mainly because some noob did it.

#32. No Scoreboards - Who needs a scoreboard? We already know you're the best. How about you make your level without adding a scoreboard, that way the fun will never end!		2010-03-19 23:23:00

Author:
CyberSora
Posts: 5551

Ah, of course! Nicely spotted Arradi and CyberSora.

Added #32 and #33.		2010-03-20 00:11:00

Author:
Taffey
Posts: 3187

Place a switch right next to the thing it activates. Who needs to glue a platform to the wall and add a swing to get up there? Just have the switch that opens your door right beside the door! It's realistic, and easier than actually doing something to advance through the level! If anyone suggests just having the door open, or not there, tell them that that's removing the "gameplay".

http://i.neoseeker.com/mgv/272671-Blackfalcon/671/5/animal0064hb2_display.gif		2010-03-28 19:16:00

Author:
Blackfalcon
Posts: 409

Darkness: Who doesn't love an adventure through King Tuts temple or a pirates cave. Just remember to bring your own flashlight because the creator has made it sooo dark that you can't see the swing over the flaming pit or that enemy who keeps poking you in your sack behind. Not to mention the switch to open the door to the next room. But hey, that realism for you! It just doesn't make for a fun level when you can't see anything 2 steps in front of you....2010-03-28 22:55:00

Author:
kaiju_kid
Posts: 329

Place a switch right next to the thing it activates. Who needs to glue a platform to the wall and add a swing to get up there? Just have the switch that opens your door right beside the door! It's realistic, and easier than actually doing something to advance through the level! If anyone suggests just having the door open, or not there, tell them that that's removing the "gameplay".

http://i.neoseeker.com/mgv/272671-Blackfalcon/671/5/animal0064hb2_display.gif

Umm... what? Can you be more specific?		2010-03-29 00:44:00

Author:
CyberSora
Posts: 5551

Umm... what? Can you be more specific?
I think he means a lack of puzzles; as in instead of working to open a door, there's simply a switch right next to it that opens it.		2010-03-29 00:56:00

Author:
xero
Posts: 2419

-.-

Many people have switches to doors with no puzzles to unlock them. Not really a peeve to be honest.		2010-03-29 01:09:00

Author:
CyberSora
Posts: 5551

True, but it's still uninteresting and unoriginal. They could make their level actually have something to it. Most press-a-switch-open-a-door levels I've seen at least make it a little more complex--the switch isn't right next to the door, or you need to do something to get to the switch.2010-03-29 02:23:00

Author:
xero
Posts: 2419

Oops, I have done a couple of those things...:blush: but a few that are less annoying.

Anywho, I've got one.
Don't you just love it when you have challenges and puzzles you don't need to do? Who wants a challenging level, when you can just run through all the obstacles without having to do any of them?		2010-03-30 20:23:00

Author:
Unknown User

Another one just came to mind...

Placing checkpoints over lethal materials: Don't you love dying in a level over and over again? So why not place a checkpoint over a pit of gas? That way, if someone activates it they'll have to start over again! Fun, fun, fun!		2010-03-30 20:39:00

Author:
Fastbro
Posts: 1277

how do you place wheels off centre? i dont think you can on PSP! BUT...if you can - can someone plz plz plz plz tell me how to??????!!!!!!!!!!!!2010-03-30 20:59:00

Author:
SockFace
Posts: 190

Another one just came to mind...

Placing checkpoints over lethal materials: Don't you love dying in a level over and over again? So why not place a checkpoint over a pit of gas? That way, if someone activates it they'll have to start over again! Fun, fun, fun!

that is soooooooo annoying!!! sorry to be so negative but do you actually know howmany community levels do that? it gets on my nerves but after a while you just get so fed up of it you start to see the funny side of it all!		2010-03-30 21:07:00

Author:
SockFace
Posts: 190

how do you place wheels off centre? i dont think you can on PSP! BUT...if you can - can someone plz plz plz plz tell me how to??????!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why would you want to? Other than to give Taffey a heart attack...		2010-03-30 21:55:00

Author:
Fastbro
Posts: 1277

To create "moar lulz". 2010-03-30 22:11:00

Author:
Voltergeist
Posts: 1702

Why would you want to? Other than to give Taffey a heart attack...
*dies*






I need to add some of these ideas to the list. 		2010-03-30 23:28:00

Author:
Taffey
Posts: 3187

heres one that I find annoying : use lots and lots and lots of sponge. no-one preffers any other material to sponge, you can grab it, you can stand on it, Whats not to like??2010-03-31 19:40:00

Author:
flamingemu
Posts: 1872

I resurrect thee! :kz:

Okay, now that this thread is back on, here's one.

34. Copying "To Sony a great idea": Hey, why don't you start a retaliation and copy the level "To Sony a great idea"? Not only will you fill up the Community with nothing but spam, but you also get the opportunity to fill your Memory Stick with a useless level just for being such a gullible person.		2010-04-10 19:13:00

Author:
CyberSora
Posts: 5551

I think he means a lack of puzzles; as in instead of working to open a door, there's simply a switch right next to it that opens it.

I agree, I hate that in levels.

Another thing: Undecorated Dark Matter. Everyone loves that deep blue of dark matter, so when you're making a floating platform just plonk a slab of DM there.

http://i.neoseeker.com/mgv/272671-Blackfalcon/671/5/animal0064hb2_display.gif		2010-04-12 17:20:00

Author:
Blackfalcon
Posts: 409

True, but it's still uninteresting and unoriginal. They could make their level actually have something to it. Most press-a-switch-open-a-door levels I've seen at least make it a little more complex--the switch isn't right next to the door, or you need to do something to get to the switch.

The beginning to Taffey's levels often have a Sensor Switch near the door. I don't think that's unoriginal at all to be honest.

Look, this thing depends on the circumstances. If this was a sacred tomb, then sure, make a puzzle for that "Ooh! Shiny door with abnormally large lock!". But, if this is plain out realism, say a super market, then the door should open when a person nears it, not when you figure out a puzzle. If this was true in real life, then I would never leave my local supermaket! Well, so long as the puzzle is fun.		2010-04-12 22:50:00

Author:
CyberSora
Posts: 5551

Another thing: Undecorated Dark Matter.Hey Blackfalcon-

Well, yes - I agree! Although... ehm, you see *whispers* (This is the PSP section and we don't have dark matter.)

2010-04-12 23:55:00

Author:
Taffey
Posts: 3187

Well, yes - I agree! Although... ehm, you see *whispers* (This is the PSP section and we don't have dark matter.)



Must... resist... commenting....		2010-04-13 00:13:00

Author:
CyberSora
Posts: 5551

Hey Blackfalcon-

Well, yes - I agree! Although... ehm, you see *whispers* (This is the PSP section and we don't have dark matter.)



Oops.

And regarding switches that open doors; I have nothing wrong with a sensor switch being used, in fact I like that feature a lot. It's button and pull switches placed right beside the door. I just feel cheated when I see that, as it just isn't gameplay.

http://i.neoseeker.com/mgv/272671-Blackfalcon/671/5/animal0064hb2_display.gif		2010-04-13 16:56:00

Author:
Blackfalcon
Posts: 409

Ughh... these people won't stop! They think that making some "great idea" level that we should all copy will make them more special. I think I'm getting more annoyed by these then "SuperSackball" itself.

35. Revolution, Baby!: Why put up with the PSP's terrible Create Mode? It's bad enough that we have to create our levels, but now they expect us to earn our hearts? Well, say no to that, and instead, start a revolution! You know you're the best when your 1 star'ed level gets copied by nobody but people like you. Yes, Sony is bound to listen to you and you only.

Seriously, these levels are wasting space on the Community Moon. I can say for a fact that this "revolution" idea is just a complete load of croc.		2010-04-14 04:17:00

Author:
CyberSora
Posts: 5551

Thread: I resurrect thee!

Added #34-#36. 		2010-05-28 18:09:00

Author:
Taffey
Posts: 3187

Why create good quality unique level names when you can call it "?" or "j"2010-05-29 20:36:00

Author:
Kern
Posts: 5078

Ooh, let's just ruin the environment by making the whole level wooden without editing a single corner! Wood is sexy, right?2010-05-29 22:07:00

Author:
TheOfficialVen
Posts: 155

Oh, why not put a door on a piston, just to make the piston move so little it is barely even noticable! Its even more entertaining when you do it with a cutscene magic mouth showing its motion from afar!2010-06-01 02:05:00

Author:
VeRsioNs_Z
Posts: 341

here's one thing that annoys the living ****out of me ,hard to reach areas with no type of what so ever dynamic material to help you get on top of that oh so important ledge . Nice post I lawld when I read it

<3 sincerly ; furrycub231 <3		2010-06-21 19:19:00

Author:
furry_cub_231
Posts: 3

Ooh, let's just ruin the environment by making the whole level wooden without editing a single corner! Wood is sexy, right?

Of course it is. Just look at the turn-on on this week's issue.

http://www.pixshock.net/pic_b/e48c4cb2edee0c031df54a67a001307c.jpg		2010-06-21 22:38:00

Author:
CyberSora
Posts: 5551

I dub thee Cyber, Duke of Random but Awesome Images.

2010-06-22 05:24:00

Author:
Taffey
Posts: 3187

I dub thee Cyber, Duke of Random but Awesome Images.



Now that my friend is signature worthy!		2010-06-23 01:07:00

Author:
CyberSora
Posts: 5551

Awesome!

See, I always knew you were royalty. 		2010-06-23 03:04:00

Author:
Taffey
Posts: 3187

Hahaha all of this advice comes from experience.2010-07-02 16:34:00

Author:
eagerneph
Posts: 1536

no 4 is unfair. You CANT center wheels automatically like ps3. And if you try REALLY hard to get it in the middle, it's usually still off center

Centring Motor Bolts is as easy as 123 or ABC! LOL

Here's what you need to do.

1). Select your wheel with the PopIt Cursor and place it where you want it to be on your vehicle.
2). Back out of your Cursor by pressing the O Button once and go to the Motor Bolt.
3). Place the Motor Bolt exactly where it is.

There you go! An exactly centred Motor Bolt on your Wheel.

Hope this helps,

BrimoStudios		2010-07-08 08:50:00

Author:
Unknown User

It's also important never to add any sounds anywhere. Especially after doing something important you must make sure the player doesn't get any feedback from doing so. Using weird or unrelated sounds will also be extra exiting. Who knew that a fart-sound actually indicates a time limit. These rules could also be applied with music. Glokenpop for a chase scene? An excellent idea!2010-07-12 13:23:00

Author:
Unknown User

Keep in mind when playing a level that the players want perfection, so why not just make it out of perfect rectangles, squares, and circles?2010-07-21 14:14:00

Author:
TheOfficialVen
Posts: 155

Glokenpop can be used in some circumstances!!!2010-07-21 15:53:00

Author:
anoken
Posts: 1654

Glokenpop can be used in some circumstances!!!

Yes, I find it pretty catchy sometimes. <That's just me being nice to a song 		2010-07-22 02:11:00

Author:
TheNerd
Posts: 840

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I was bored, so here's visual versions of the first 3 peeves.		2010-07-25 13:47:00

Author:
Fastbro
Posts: 1277

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k294/thedoctorwho/Peeve1-1.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k294/thedoctorwho/Peeve2.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k294/thedoctorwho/Peeve3.jpg
I was bored, so here's visual versions of the first 3 peeves.Hah, awesome sauce!!!

Fastbro, that made my day. LOL Hilarious man! I'm glad to see you putting your new toys to good use. 		2010-07-27 05:53:00

Author:
Taffey
Posts: 3187

There's lots of things that were wrong.2010-08-13 18:50:00

Author:
Unknown User

No Backgrounds Who needs those stickers when I can just use those pre-made ones for the entire level or better yet, just use the blank one because everyone loves the color blue.2010-08-19 23:17:00

Author:
kitcheninja
Posts: 211

Unreasonable Jumps You mean that Sackboy is supposed to make it across the gas pit? I thought I was supposed to make the gap just slightly longer than the distance Sackboy could jump. I even made it cooler by adding a neat little wall at the top of the far end so that you have to make a perfect arc to get there safely... but you'll never make it across in the first place.2010-08-29 06:10:00

Author:
Unknown User

What about when a creator has an object that you must escort somewhere but the object is static. Why make it easy for the poor sackpeople, when you can make it impossible2010-08-29 07:33:00

Author:
Captain Rule
Posts: 360

Impossible Levels From never ending death loops too unseen explosive emitters, nothing says fun like making a level impossible! Players hate having the ability to beat a level and crave for a challenge so why not add some impossibility to your level.2010-08-29 07:38:00

Author:
kitcheninja
Posts: 211

lol i made a level with this in it just to show kids to not do this in their levels 2010-09-11 18:25:00

Author:
Unknown User

I disagree with no 35.
I like sponge
But suggestion for the next point
#--I haz made a fast car.
If you put 20 rokets on the back of peice of glass and publish it people will forever marvel at your car making skills (and mental albity)
#--Level templates
Dont have the time to make a level? then use a template.
It doesnt matter if you change it or not because I will look like it was made by a pro (and the truth is it was).		2010-09-13 16:56:00

Author:
unXpectiD
Posts: 1132

.37 USE THE CHARACTERS SCEE GIVES YOU
You have made a great character concept! Oh joy! Is it bruice from very first level you played in the game? Or is it the super artistic SackBoy shape that every happy gadder wants in a prize bubble!?		2010-11-26 20:44:00

Author:
Ragefulnoobs
Posts: 76

Most of these no-goes can be used to advantage, like of you wanted to use a detached switch for a cruel trap.2010-12-03 00:27:00

Author:
Snicklin
Posts: 83

#24 dude, lag can be named something bifferent for some levels. its named "SSSLLLOOOWWW-MMMOOOOOOOOO" (slow-mo ) it comes in handy for last minute descisions (expecially if ur making a matrix level...2011-01-12 10:49:00

Author:
dylan-is-cool123
Posts: 54

could'nt stop laughing from #33 2011-01-12 10:57:00

Author:
dylan-is-cool123
Posts: 54

37: Don't use logic gates! Why use logic gates? They're boring, complicated and unfun to make.
Just slap in a grab switch on dissolve material and skip the hassle of making a stupid vehicle respawner for whenever people die on your electrified ice!

38: Don't use decoration! Decorating isn't useful, it just makes your precious totally not obvious spike and dissolve trap be easily avoidable and lag your level a lot!
Levels are for playing, not art!

39: Spam Story Mode characters! Everyone loves the story mode characters! So why not return the feeling of Story Mode by adding everyone's favorite characters?
They'll get you instant 5 star + Heart!

40: Scatter Community Objects around your level! Your level will be better the more community stuff you add to it! Sharing is caring, and the creators will be glad to see their creations used in totally not lame levels!		2011-01-19 19:59:00

Author:
Unknown User


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