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The Sackies - Best Gameplay in a Level

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Gameplay isn?t always the focus of a level, but it's by and far the most prominent idea behind a Creator Curator?s masterpiece. This award recognises the level with the best gameplay ? the most fun, the least frustrating, the replay value, the novelty, how well thought out it was, and how impressive it is.

And the nominees are?

Barrel Canyon Blast by dan_e2040
The Palace of Asheron by rayvolution
Tribal Ruins by Jackofcourse
Save, Die, Reload by Carlsen_Jeppe
StarCruiser by Candyk
Sky Town series by jump_button
Plat-former by CadaverWalking

And the winner is?
Save, Die, Reload by Carlsen_Jeppe		2009-12-19 13:35:00

Author:
MrsSpookyBuz
Posts: 1492

Well...it's about time Candyk got a crown 2009-12-19 13:40:00

Author:
ARD
Posts: 4291

Wasn't StarCruiser nominated for best visuals, anyway?

I would have said that starcruiser probably shouldn't be top 10 levels ever for it's gameplay. I know you're not supposed to say stuff like that, but honestly, I've played scores of levels with better gameplay.

Congrats to all the nominees though.		2009-12-19 13:45:00

Author:
rtm223
Posts: 6497

Wasn't StarCruiser nominated for best visuals, anyway?

I would have said that starcruiser probably shouldn't be top 10 levels ever for it's gameplay. I know you're not supposed to say stuff like that, but honestly, I've played scores of levels with better gameplay.

Congrats to all the nominees though.

Hmm, I was thinking something similar. Don't misunderstand me, there are some very good levels gameplay-wise in the list (and congrats to you all), but I'm a bit puzzled with one or two of the selections.		2009-12-19 13:48:00

Author:
MrsSpookyBuz
Posts: 1492

Good choice for the winner. Glad to see a lesser known creator get the nod.

CandyK deserves a crown for the amazing visuals, but in fairness the gameplay was almost non-existant in that level.

Still, well done everyone.		2009-12-19 13:50:00

Author:
Matt 82
Posts: 1096

Good choice for the winner. Glad to see a lesser known creator get the nod.

CandyK deserves a crown for the amazing visuals, but in fairness the gameplay was almost non-existant in that level.

Still, well done everyone.

Exactly what I was thinking.		2009-12-19 13:52:00

Author:
Killian
Posts: 2575

Great choice for the winner. That level is just so clever!

Congrats to the nominees.		2009-12-19 14:02:00

Author:
wexfordian
Posts: 1904

I haven't played these. where have i been???2009-12-19 14:12:00

Author:
robotiod
Posts: 2662

Oh rayvolution s getting a crown?

He can add that to his list of things to show off about...
Some of you may have an idea what I am on about. I know Jack does

I'm kidding. He actually deserves it fully.		2009-12-19 14:15:00

Author:
KQuinn94Z
Posts: 1758

Oh rayvolution s getting a crown?

He can add that to his list of things to show off about...
Some of you may have an idea what I am on about. I know Jack does

I think I know what you're trying to say, and I think it's a bit out of order. Rayvolution got so much harrassment on LBW due to people THINKING he was arrogant - a lot of folk ganged up on him and made him leave not only LBW, but the game as well.

So if people don't like him, that's one thing, but if you agree with bullying someone off a forum then that's quite another.		2009-12-19 14:20:00

Author:
MrsSpookyBuz
Posts: 1492

I don't think CarlsenJeppe plays LBP anymore, he's on my friends list I can't remember ever seeing him on in the recent months. I guess he'll have a nice surprise whenever he gets back into the game.2009-12-19 14:27:00

Author:
TripleTremelo
Posts: 490

Good stuff. I'm starting to feel like a redundant peanut gallery, but I wouldda thrown in -

Splat Invaders Saga by Ccubbage
H.A.T.E. 1 & 2 by Voltiare
Pixelation 1 & 2 by JackIsBack999
HEIST 2: Rising Sun by Mrgenjii
Things That Go Splat In the Night by Allerian
[all other levels] by jackofcourse
Tye Dye by Jaeyden
OH NO!!! The Princess series by CaptainCowboyHat
Canyon Jazz by Yarbone
Metal Revolution by Blorf
Jumper: Red/Blue/Green Zone series by deboerdave

...and sackboy's inferno episode two or three over Save Die and Reload any day, since sighwhatever pioneered it and perfected it, with much better presentation and craft.		2009-12-19 14:40:00

Author:
Unknown User

I want to know where the hell the Maxed Out series is on this list, because if THAT doesn't have replay value, I don't really know what does.

Also, Ninja is correct, Ccubbage's levels should definitely be on there!!!!

I went from liking these awards to hating these awards because so many things are left out (as ninja said) but I cannot help but come in here and congratulate jack. It's a crime he hasn't gotten a crown beforehand. Congrats, my friend. It was a long time coming.		2009-12-19 14:42:00

Author:
xkappax
Posts: 2569

Congrats to the winners! I have to admit there are a few here I need to play asap! :eek:

I am thinking that CandyK was well deserved crownage in the visuals category. Possibly just a list typo?

Ahh well, I can't imagine that it was an easy task to compile and award all these creators.		2009-12-19 14:44:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383

Ninja beat me to it, but I would have expected to see at least one of CuzFeeshe's levels nominated (or however these lists are being voted for). his levels are purely gameplay orientated and many are innovative.

Ah well, we'll see what tomorrow brings.		2009-12-19 14:45:00

Author:
MrsSpookyBuz
Posts: 1492

Yeah I think a cubbage level shoulda been in there somewhere.
Candyk? That level has little gameplay. How the heck was it chosen?

I would have maybe have
Pinball Wizzard by allieran and Wrecking ball survival by tig-w in there aswell.		2009-12-19 14:45:00

Author:
KQuinn94Z
Posts: 1758

@ kappa Everyone and their momma loves Maxed Out.

I still like the awards... I just always like to represent my favorites. The last thing I was working on before I sold my PS3 was a level or two of advertisement for all my favorite levels and their creators - each room was going to be styled after the level, visually and in terms of gameplay, and after passing the obstacle or solving a problem the a custom banner and description would pop up telling you the level name and author, and a wordy review from me... then open the door to the next one.		2009-12-19 14:47:00

Author:
Unknown User

Ninja beat me to it, but I would have expected to see at least one of CuzFeeshe's levels nominated (or however these lists are being voted for). his levels are purely gameplay orientated and many are innovative.

Ah well, we'll see what tomorrow brings.

I have to echo that.. CCubbage rules at innovative game play.		2009-12-19 14:52:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383

Ccubbage for President! ... wait, maybe that was a bit far. Ccubbage for BEST GAMEPLAY!2009-12-19 15:26:00

Author:
xkappax
Posts: 2569

Eh, I don't care much about passing judgment on the rest, but I'm glad Jack and Jump got their awards. They produce some of my favorite levels gameplay-wise.

My question is: what in the world could the next set of awards be? It seems like they've covered everything but "Best Minigame" or "Best Series"*.

*This is my only chance!		2009-12-19 15:28:00

Author:
comphermc
Posts: 5338

My question is: what in the world could the next set of awards be? It seems like they've covered everything but "Best Minigame" or "Best Series"*.

*This is my only chance!

Best portal series with an author that has a name starting with c. 		2009-12-19 15:31:00

Author:
warlord_evil
Posts: 4193

^If they do best mini-game/survival challenge I think you got a shot at that too.

I don't think I've played any survival challenge more than I have Brain Chain.		2009-12-19 15:31:00

Author:
TripleTremelo
Posts: 490

Thanks TripleT, but I think it's still relatively unknown. It only has 70k+ plays because people like you play the crap out of it. Besides, I'm not sure it was nominated in that thread a few weeks back... 2009-12-19 15:33:00

Author:
comphermc
Posts: 5338

Now that Star Cruiser was nominated over Subterranean Setbacks I completely denounce any loyalty to sSony or Media Molecule -.-2009-12-19 15:38:00

Author:
Incinerator22
Posts: 3251

Best co-op level would be a cool category.... but only if you all can petition MM to let GruntosUK transfer over Twin Towers from the beta servers.2009-12-19 15:44:00

Author:
Unknown User

Best co-op level would be a cool category.... but only if you all can petition MM to let GruntosUK transfer over Twin Towers from the beta servers.

That was so much fun.		2009-12-19 15:45:00

Author:
Killian
Posts: 2575

"Best Series"

...if that included collabs then AOTEACFOS would at least be a nominee, right? I mean...right?		2009-12-19 15:47:00

Author:
ARD
Posts: 4291

^If they do best mini-game/survival challenge I think you got a shot at that too.

I don't think I've played any survival challenge more than I have Brain Chain.

Yep... my picks would be -

Brain Chain by comphermc
Canyon Jazz by MrSpooneyLegs/Yarbone
7th Idol by Miglioshin		2009-12-19 15:47:00

Author:
Unknown User

Oh rayvolution s getting a crown?

He can add that to his list of things to show off about...
Some of you may have an idea what I am on about. I know Jack does
I too know how ray is 		2009-12-19 15:54:00

Author:
oldage
Posts: 2824

Brain chain is my favorite survival challenge/ Mini game.2009-12-19 15:56:00

Author:
robotiod
Posts: 2662

I want to know where the hell the Maxed Out series is on this list, because if THAT doesn't have replay value, I don't really know what does.

I played the first one of them, didn't really get what the fuss was about lol. Certainly didn't feel like going back ever. Each to their own


I went from liking these awards to hating these awards because so many things are left out

See, I don't mind there being stuff left out of the awards, there are too many great levels to get them all in there, too many amazing creations. When something gets left off but the rest of the nominees are all worthy of the award in question, that's cool. But in this case some of the nominees don't even fit the category in the slightest. That's what's wrong here IMO.


Regarding survival challenges, I've brain chain and canyon jazz are the only ones I've played more than a couple of times.		2009-12-19 16:41:00

Author:
rtm223
Posts: 6497

All of Jack's stuff should be there, lol. Well, I kind of think his "simple" level is his best work. Tribal Ruins is good but not the very best of his. Or maybe that two player level....

Anyways, some of those on the list shouldn't be there. And I feel sorry for creators like CCubbage that don't get picked because he isn't known at all.

I feel like MM are totally missing out on some of the best stuff on some of these lists.		2009-12-19 16:57:00

Author:
TheJollyRajah
Posts: 466

@ rtm: Maxed out 3 was actually quite good. And I think I could play maxed out 2 over and over again.

I agree with you 100 percent, though. Nattura's level belonged in "best visuals", not best story. There is no story. And some of the nominees in this category make little sense, too.

Not saying they're not good levels, just saying that they're a tad misplaced.
I do agree with all of you guys, though. Cccubbage should be featured here. It's a gosh-darn crime that he is not. 		2009-12-19 17:10:00

Author:
xkappax
Posts: 2569

Best Co-Op level?

I have a chance!
Since Jack's already got an award, they may be nice and let me have it. 		2009-12-19 17:14:00

Author:
KQuinn94Z
Posts: 1758

Yep... my picks would be -

Brain Chain by comphermc
Canyon Jazz by MrSpooneyLegs/Yarbone
7th Idol by Miglioshin

It would appear I'm among great company. Those other two levels were fantastic and completely original. I loved both of them.


@ rtm: Maxed out 3 was actually quite good. And I think I could play maxed out 2 over and over again.

I don't know, I think I'd agree with rtm on this one. I played Maxed Out 3, and there wasn't much gameplay to be had, to be honest. It was more of a showcase of a variety of mechanisms that can be used in a level. I think people were more impressed with those and didn't take notice of the actual gameplay.

I'm sorry, but the car sequence was fun, and it was pretty impressive, but that is not gameplay. Gameplay in LBP is anything the player actually does (read: run, jump, shoot, grab, slide, solving puzzles, etc.) - anything beyond that are cinematics. Sure, there were gameplay elements in the level, nothing that impressed me beyond what I had already seen...

I guess it depends on how you define gameplay. I'd have rather seen CCubbage, CaptainCowboyHat, Spooky, rtm, and others for this category...

/opinion.		2009-12-19 17:32:00

Author:
comphermc
Posts: 5338

awww that nice of them ^^ to but my Sky Town series in there I still need to fix that last one and do part two of it.2009-12-19 18:07:00

Author:
jump_button
Posts: 1014

You guys are probably right about Maxed out. I enjoy those levels, though, and if i were making the contest, they'd be at least nominees. That's why these awards might not be the best of ideas. There's so much resting on opinions. I would have loved if we had the chance to vote on various categories for these. I think then sir Ccubbage would have been one of the top dogs of this particular category.

edit: i also agree that spooky should have been in this category as well.		2009-12-19 18:08:00

Author:
xkappax
Posts: 2569

I think this is a bit of an odd one really. I think people have different definitions of gameplay, or certainly Mm do compared to us by the looks of this

For me, neither myself of Jump_button should really be in this category. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that I don't think we deserve it, I just think in terms of 'gameplay' there are more worthy levels out there.

I'm surprised it was Tribal Ruins too. Flaming Timberland 2 or Industrial Assistance are for more 'gameplay' orientated.

There are a lot more worthy levels in the list that Ninja gave than Tribal Ruins, in my opinion.

Now if there is a 'Best Co-op' category, I'll definitely be more optimistic about that, that's one I do think I deserve

EDIT: Just noticed that Plat-former was nominated! Woohoo! I've done so much plugging for that level. Well done to Spaff for listening to me as well 		2009-12-19 18:17:00

Author:
jackofcourse
Posts: 1494

Congrats nominees!

I don't think they're supposed to be taken that seriously, it's just a bit of end of year fun, and a nice shout out to some of the best LBP has to offer. Is anyone going to seriously get offended by being left off?? I'd hope we're all a bit wiser than that.		2009-12-19 18:21:00

Author:
julesyjules
Posts: 1156

I think this is a bit of an odd one really. I think people have different definitions of gameplay, of certainly Mm do compared to us by the looks of this

For me, neither myself of Jump_button should really be in this category. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that I don't think we deserve it, I just think in terms of 'gameplay' there are more worthy levels out there.

I'm surprised it was Tribal Ruins too. Flaming Timberland 2 or Industrial Assistance are for more 'gameplay' orientated.

There are a lot more worthy levels in the list that Ninja gave than Tribal Ruins, in my opinion.

Now if there is a 'Best Co-op' category, I'll definitely be more optimistic about that, that's one I do think I deserve

EDIT: Just noticed that Plat-former was nominated! Woohoo! I've done so much plugging for that level. Well done to Spaff for listening to me as well

I know what you mean with the balloons just a simple idea and was easy to make

if I did't do it Im sure some other would had sooner or later		2009-12-19 18:25:00

Author:
jump_button
Posts: 1014

Actually, when I wrote that I was just thinking in terms of your normal sky town level, not the balloon ones...balloon gameplay definitely deserves to be nominated so ignore me 2009-12-19 18:30:00

Author:
jackofcourse
Posts: 1494

Congrats nominees!

I don't think they're supposed to be taken that seriously, it's just a bit of end of year fun, and a nice shout out to some of the best LBP has to offer. Is anyone going to seriously get offended by being left off?? I'd hope we're all a bit wiser than that.

Unforunately, yes. A lot of people are being offended by being left off. It's the nature of taking something that is a very subjective thing and having one person or a group of people say what is the "best"... It's very much based on opinion, and people are going to have feelings hurt.

I'm not personally offended by this category. My mechanics suck . I just thought I'd explain that these awards have hurt quite a few feelings already.

edit: sorry I keep editing this. I can't write today, apparently.		2009-12-19 18:35:00

Author:
xkappax
Posts: 2569

Congrats nominees!

I don't think they're supposed to be taken that seriously, it's just a bit of end of year fun, and a nice shout out to some of the best LBP has to offer. Is anyone going to seriously get offended by being left off?? I'd hope we're all a bit wiser than that.

I was talking to kappa, and I said at least we have something to talk about heh this is the most activity I've had on the site for a long time, so I'm enjoying the awards but just like when I watch the music and movie award shows I've just got to complain about it and champion some movie/musician that should be on there.


Actually, when I wrote that I was just thinking in terms of your normal sky town level, not the balloon ones...balloon gameplay definitely deserves to be nominated so ignore me

Yeah, definitely... the baloon mechanics were the definition of innovative and fun gameplay, even if only for the fact it made a really cohesive and beautiful level with inventive puzzles by really bringing out the classic platformer "floating jump" gameplay in LBP style. It obviously wasn't the first time someone did a baloon jump, but it was the first time I felt kinda like I was playing Yoshi's Island or Klonoa.		2009-12-19 18:40:00

Author:
Unknown User

Yeah, definitely... the baloon mechanics were the definition of innovative and fun gameplay, even if only for the fact it made a really cohesive and beautiful level with inventive puzzles

This.

I mean I've played around with jumping with floaty and balloons before this, but I never saw it as more than a silly mess around in create and I'd never have managed to create something like up and away.

Jump Button, you took a simple concept to a whole new level and executed it perfectly. You say someone else would have done it sooner or later, but not many people would have done it so well and that's what really matters. Just like comphermc wasn't the first person to do bouncing on brains, but by god did he do it well.

That level more than earns it's place in this gameplay category.		2009-12-19 19:16:00

Author:
rtm223
Posts: 6497

I dont' think I've ever played up and away. Perhaps I shall play this next time I'm on.2009-12-19 19:46:00

Author:
xkappax
Posts: 2569

Congratulations nominees & winner. I'm not going to rehash the CandyK stuff as I agree with what's already been posted.

There are a lot of very fun levels that got overlooked to be sure but CCubbage, Jaeyden & MrsSpooky should most certainly have been on a fun list.		2009-12-19 21:28:00

Author:
Morgana25
Posts: 5983

This is the most controversial award yet it seems..oh well, even though I agree it must be said that it is a very difficult task to please everyone. Kudos to Mm for even trying something like this, it is just filled with pitfalls!!

Also, congratulations to the newly crowned!! 		2009-12-19 21:33:00

Author:
Zwollie
Posts: 2173

I dont' think I've ever played up and away. Perhaps I shall play this next time I'm on.

Woah seriously?
I'm not one to plug levels normally, but this is one you'll never forget playing. Possibley one of the most innovative amazing super awesome levels ever 		2009-12-19 21:46:00

Author:
Coxy224
Posts: 2645

i will definitely give it a try, then! ^_^2009-12-19 22:31:00

Author:
xkappax
Posts: 2569

Heh.... I definatately agree that there could have been other levels with better gameplay in the list... not really sure CandyK's level belonged on there... although it was beautiful. I would have LOVED to see the Hypersphere series on there.

However, I sort of feel like I already got my due by being part of the Logic Pack.		2009-12-19 22:39:00

Author:
CCubbage
Posts: 4430

No, Ccubbage! You need MORE! MORE! MORE! You're AWESOME! VOTE CCUBBAGE!2009-12-19 23:07:00

Author:
xkappax
Posts: 2569

However, I sort of feel like I already got my due by being part of the Logic Pack.

Fair comment, and incredibly modest.

But here's another angle: Gameplay=CuzFeeshe

Sour grapes from me because I like your levels? No. It's called honesty.		2009-12-19 23:16:00

Author:
MrsSpookyBuz
Posts: 1492

Really? Who choses these levels?

Granted several of the are great but some REALLY don't deserve to be up there.		2009-12-19 23:32:00

Author:
bonner123
Posts: 1487

Not saying they're not good levels, just saying that they're a tad misplaced.

All of us have felt like this I think and it's hard to criticise the level being put in a certain category without it looking like you are criticising the level itself. I think this goes for the entire sackies thing... We've all felt like certain levels did not belong in the categories they wre placed, but every level featured has been a great level. It's just been a weird (mis)match of some of the levels and what they have been awarded for.		2009-12-20 00:39:00

Author:
rtm223
Posts: 6497

When Subterranean Setbacks gets the nod for the best mini-game, we'll know something has gone awry.2009-12-20 08:51:00

Author:
Matt 82
Posts: 1096

Now if there is a 'Best Co-op' category, I'll definitely be more optimistic about that, that's one I do think I deserve



Would I at least get nominated. There's a chance MM have played it. 		2009-12-20 09:44:00

Author:
KQuinn94Z
Posts: 1758

When Subterranean Setbacks gets the nod for the best mini-game, we'll know something has gone awry.

I lol'd. That would be hilarious!		2009-12-20 10:10:00

Author:
rtm223
Posts: 6497

O.K. yeah just read the thread and while Starcruiser is amazing visually, everyone is right that cubbage should have been sitting in that spot instead. It's just plain true.2009-12-21 06:24:00

Author:
Jaeyden
Posts: 564


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