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Hi I'm SirenRose & I just would like to talk about how alot of levels are copys of other levels. Like lets just say bomb levels. Well here's my thought on it. I think when creating a level it should come from your imagination even if your lacking in creatively get together with a friend & work on it together. It may even be more fun that way. People forget what LBP is about when all they think about is getting hearts and asking over & over again to play my levels. I just want people to have fun while playing my levels or LBP in general. Its just hard to find imaginative or original levels out there. I just hope people take in what I'm trying to say and think outside the box. You never know till you try. 2009-11-30 00:02:00

Author:
sirenrose
Posts: 61


Hi I'm SirenRose & I just would like to talk about how alot of levels are copys of other levels. Like lets just say bomb levels. Well here's my thought on it. I think when creating a level it should come from your imagination even if your lacking in creatively get together with a friend & work on it together. It may even be more fun that way. People forget what LBP is about when all they think about is getting hearts and asking over & over again to play my levels. I just want people to have fun while playing my levels or LBP in general. Its just hard to find imaginative levels out there. I just hope people take in what I'm trying to say and think outside the box. You never know till you try.
Hey.... haven't seen you around in a while - welcome back!

I totally agree - the whole point of LittleBigPlanet is to express yourself, not be so concerned with popularity that you copy others.

Of course, for the most part on this site there has been a TON more creativity than if you try to wade through the muck that is cool levels. You want creativity? Check out the latest spotlight list (and past ones). I played through all of them, and all of them are extremely unique, creative, and well-built.
2009-11-30 00:17:00

Author:
CCubbage
Posts: 4430


Inorite? 2009-11-30 00:25:00

Author:
Testudini
Posts: 3262


Nicely said. 2009-11-30 00:35:00

Author:
TheFirstAvenger
Posts: 787


Yeah I've tryed most of the creater spot light levels and they are really good. X) oh and good to be back. 2009-11-30 00:36:00

Author:
sirenrose
Posts: 61


Personally, I really wouldn't mind some sort of dreamtime-ish level like with all these random shapes, relaxing music, everything floating and tons of complexity. I have yet to find a level like that, everything's too... sensible.2009-11-30 00:45:00

Author:
ePsil0n
Posts: 23


Hello There!
This is Marivelle!
Im new in this site!
I totally agree - the whole point of LittleBigPlanet is to express yourself, not be so concerned with popularity that you copy others.
Just keep on posting Guys!
I hope I can have more friends here!
Im happy to be part of this community!
Thanks!
Good Luck!...
2009-12-01 05:14:00

Author:
Unknown User


I don't think I could agree more with you. It feels so "fresh" when someone pulls out something from their very own imagination!

But as you know, there already are those kind of levels! In fact, they're all over LBPCentral.
The sad thing is that those imaginative levels won't make it to the cool pages, in most of the cases, because cool pages does only reward with hearts and plays -mostly with plays- unimaginative levels. And I'm not going to use the word "unoriginal" because that's what not I'm referring to, since I'm not talking about things that have never seen before. I'm referring to that kind of levels that give you the feeling that the creator has cut off a part of his imagination and translated it into LBP.

Sadly, cool pages don't work consider "imagination" as a parameter, unlike they do with plays&hearts. I'd be pretty cool -and surrealist- if cool pages did that, though.
2009-12-01 11:06:00

Author:
Keldur
Posts: 628


Personally, I really wouldn't mind some sort of dreamtime-ish level like with all these random shapes, relaxing music, everything floating and tons of complexity. I have yet to find a level like that, everything's too... sensible.

So isn't that the perfect oportunity for you to make this level?
2009-12-01 11:16:00

Author:
wexfordian
Posts: 1904


I don't think I could agree more with you. It feels so "fresh" when someone pulls out something from their very own imagination!

But as you know, there already are those kind of levels! In fact, they're all over LBPCentral.
The sad thing is that those imaginative levels won't make it to the cool pages, in most of the cases, because cool pages does only reward with hearts and plays -mostly with plays- unimaginative levels. And I'm not going to use the word "unoriginal" because that's what not I'm referring to, since I'm not talking about things that have never seen before. I'm referring to that kind of levels that give you the feeling that the creator has cut off a part of his imagination and translated it into LBP.

Sadly, cool pages don't work consider "imagination" as a parameter, unlike they do with plays&hearts. I'd be pretty cool -and surrealist- if cool pages did that, though.

I completely agree...cool pages is not the place to look for the levels youre after.


But as you know, there already are those kind of levels! In fact, they're all over LBPCentral

And other sites too, just check all lbp fansites and youre sure to find some gems. There are many talented people who do not visit lbpcentral so don't just stick to one site as you wont be getting a complete representation of the community. Also there are many who aren't a part of any online community so check hearted lists aswell. Finding these great lost levels is almost a game in itself
2009-12-01 14:36:00

Author:
dsgeeno1
Posts: 76


Thank you everyone's for your feedback. I plan on going level hunting soon lol. If I find any cool levels I'll be sure to send them your way. 2009-12-02 11:54:00

Author:
sirenrose
Posts: 61


I've also got bored to see levels, which are only copies -.- A good example is
one rollercoaster level, I don't know who is the original creator of it, but I've
seen more than 10 levels, which are almost exactly the same. I can?t even
understand how someone has guts to publish such level, which is clearly a perfect copy.
2009-12-02 13:30:00

Author:
Unknown User


What happens is this:

Not everybody are good at expressing themselves and most people aren't artists (so most people playing aren't either).
Then there's many kids and non-artist minds buying this game for the levels and whatnot but not for the will of creating, expressing themselves through level design. Then why do they clog the freaking game of their crap? Easy. Because they gave a reason for them to do so.

The reason is that there's trophies based on recognition but in a bad way. A very bad design. If there was nothing to collect, nothing to gain, they wouldn't lose their time to clog the pages. It's as simple as that.

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2009-12-02 15:12:00

Author:
RangerZero
Posts: 3901


What happens is this:

Not everybody are good at expressing themselves and most people aren't artists (so most people playing aren't either).
Then there's many kids and non-artist minds buying this game for the levels and whatnot but not for the will of creating, expressing themselves through level design. Then why do they clog the freaking game of their crap? Easy. Because they gave a reason for them to do so.

The reason is that there's trophies based on recognition but in a bad way. A very bad design. If there was nothing to collect, nothing to gain, they wouldn't lose their time to clog the pages. It's as simple as that.

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Of course, some of the things that drive non-artists to create and publish junk are the same things that inspire good creators to express themselves.... and I'm not talking about the create trophy here, I'm more referring to hearts and plays.

Let me explain....

I personally like hearts and plays because they are kind of a digital "pat on the back - nice job". I don't need 500,000 plays, I just want to feel people are enjoying my games. So, getting plays and people appreciating my work motivates me to build more levels - which drives LittleBigPlanet content.

However, as everything in the world, this also motivates many to have a feeling of superiority and think the hearts and plays = personal popularity.... which motivates people who have a need for attention - and they'll do anything to get it.

So.... LittleBigPlanet is truly a global community which consists of nice people, not-so-nice people, copycats, thieves, artists, leaders, followers.... it's kind of interesting to watch. If 1 kid in high school is popular and wears plaid pants, for some reason a bunch of other kids will start wearing plaid pants.

For every great work of art, there's 100 people that are jealous and want that attention. And for every beautiful bridge, there's a bunch of kids standing waiting to spread graffiti on it.
2009-12-02 15:28:00

Author:
CCubbage
Posts: 4430


If 1 kid in high school is popular and wears plaid pants, for some reason a bunch of other kids will start wearing plaid pants.


...and I was always the one to point and laugh at those kids and suggest they wear plaid underwear and paint their car plaid. "No really.. it's a great idea! You would be famous!"

...ahh well.. sorry, not to derail your thoughts. I totally agree with you CCubbage. We've had the discussion many many times. LBP mimics life.. Some folks are creative as well as innovators, the others tend to copy because they see the success of others and figure that is what you are supposed to make. Even if it is silly.. Think prime time TV. If one type of series shows success, then there are a bunch more following in the works. Possibly why I don't watch TV that much.

I try to ignore what others have done and do what I feel like doing at the time. I simply do what seems fun to me. Usually the zanier the better! If I keep my head down and am true to my art and creativity, then I feel I have done well regardless of how many stars, plays or hearts I get.

If I have folks on LBPC appreciate my work, give me great feedback and even end up landing a Spotlight, then wow.. that is like the best thing ever!!!!
2009-12-02 15:53:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383


I also totally agree on the hearts and plays explanation from Ccubbage. It's basically "part of" what I have been saying. For many reasons alot of people will always push ****** stuff up.

The only real way to bring positive on the table is to not care much, play only good and great levels + create the best quality you can.

.
2009-12-02 16:02:00

Author:
RangerZero
Posts: 3901


I will openly admit that I am not very creative at all hence I haven't made to many levels but...

I have found that I am pretty good at copying different real life things and putting them in LBP so.......

Even if you don't have any creativity like me just get your inspiration from real life.
2009-12-02 21:00:00

Author:
Domflame
Posts: 13


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