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Band Hero or Rock Band Rip-Off

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That's right. I walked into Wal-Mart, same old same old, when I noticed this.


http://www.lbpcentral.com/forums/littlebiggallery/images/5518/1_IMAG0771.jpg
Picture I took with my phone.

I think this is a total Rock Band rip-off. Seriously, I know Guitar Hero was always sticking to guitars, until Rock Band broke that boundary. Now they did Rock Band 2, and they sold plenty. So what's teh makers of Guitar hero to do. Copy, of course.

Guitar Hero: World Tour was good, but only because it resembled Rock Band. So Band Hero is copying Rock Band 2, in order to get customers. They even changed the name for people to know it's a band game. So I came to a verdict:

Verdict
I'm not buying something that's a poser. I rather buy the original. So I suggest you do the same.
2009-11-01 03:31:00

Author:
CyberSora
Posts: 5551


It's a Rock Band rip-off? NO WAY!

Brand loyalty is for fools, it's all about songs...But anyone who goes to the DLC section of Guitar Hero or Rock Band will notice Rock Band has waaay better songs.
2009-11-01 03:38:00

Author:
qrtda235566
Posts: 3664


Guitar Hero was the first video game where you could play a fake instrument. Rock Band just added more instruments. So technically Rock Band copied Guitar Hero. Therefore Guitar Hero had every right to add more instruments themselves. No other way to compete.


But this name change thing seems stupid. It's the same thing as Guitar Hero 4 & 5 so why change the name? This is going to end up biting them in the butt.

First DJHero now this. . wow.
2009-11-01 03:41:00

Author:
ChristmasJew
Posts: 431


Okay, true about DLC's, but I dissagree with the loyalty thing.

It's one thing to stay loyal, but it's another to see someone obviously copying soemone else. Band Hero,Rock Band. Which would you believe is the original?
2009-11-01 03:42:00

Author:
CyberSora
Posts: 5551


I don't think it's a rip-off of RB though. GH did kind of copy the new RB instruments, but since band hero is only starting now it would make no sense to go back to just having one instrument.2009-11-01 03:47:00

Author:
S-A-S--G-U-N-R
Posts: 1606


Ya, but I think it's dumb for them to change their name. I wouldn't think of it as a rip-off it's title contained, "Guitar Hero", but it doesn't. Instead it has the fimiliar to Rock Band tone, "Band Hero", so that's why I think it's a rip-off.2009-11-01 03:52:00

Author:
CyberSora
Posts: 5551


The word band is not original in any way. Therefor just because someone else used this common word first, doesn't mean the next person to use it is copying them.2009-11-01 03:57:00

Author:
ChristmasJew
Posts: 431


I'm better at guitar hero than all of you.2009-11-01 05:59:00

Author:
Unknown User


Guitar Hero was the first video game where you could play a fake instrument. Rock Band just added more instruments. So technically Rock Band copied Guitar Hero. Therefore Guitar Hero had every right to add more instruments themselves. No other way to compete.


Get your facts right before you start posting, Guitar Hero was not the first game with a fake instrument GuitarFreaks & DrumMania used fake instruments in 1999 six years before the Guitar hero franchise. (and there's probably others before them too.)

Can't really accuse Rock band of copying Guitar hero considering that the studio that developed the first 2 GH games and rock the 80's is the same developer behind rock band and you can't rip yourselves off.

Also wasn't band hero surposed to be more for the kids?
2009-11-01 09:56:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


I'm better at guitar hero than all of you.

You must be so proud. I can't imagine how awesome your life must be, prick.
2009-11-01 10:45:00

Author:
Unknown User


Lol. BURNED!2009-11-01 17:48:00

Author:
CyberSora
Posts: 5551


But Guitar Hero already has drums and stuff, to me that looks like someones ripping off Guitar Hero AND Rock Band.2009-11-01 18:00:00

Author:
Dexiro
Posts: 2100


Guitar Hero is making Band Hero. Or are you referring to someone else?2009-11-01 18:02:00

Author:
CyberSora
Posts: 5551


You must be so proud. I can't imagine how awesome your life must be, prick.


Lol. BURNED!

http://homepage.mac.com/aurich/ars/locks/feed_trolls.gif
2009-11-01 18:02:00

Author:
ChristmasJew
Posts: 431


God... These games must be so easy to make. I mean, there's been LOADS out within such a short amount of time.2009-11-01 18:03:00

Author:
Bear
Posts: 2079


God... These games must be so easy to make. I mean, there's been LOADS out within such a short amount of time.

So true. They're thinking, "Hey? Why make a different game, and let's stick to the same old ****".
2009-11-01 18:04:00

Author:
CyberSora
Posts: 5551


You must be so proud. I can't imagine how awesome your life must be, prick.

lol Dude you just absolutely owned that guy

Anyway, yeah, I'm getting sick of these ****ing Guitar Hero style games...It's got to the point where people take it seriously, and they think that they'll make such excellent musicians despite never even touching a guitar, drumkit, bass, or even a DJ kit, which I now find truly and utterly hilarious.
2009-11-01 19:17:00

Author:
KoRnDawwg
Posts: 1424


lol Dude you just absolutely owned that guy

Anyway, yeah, I'm getting sick of these ****ing Guitar Hero style games...It's got to the point where people take it seriously, and think they will make excellent musicians despite ever touching a guitar, drumkit, bass, or even a DJ kit, which I now find truly and utterly hilarious.

I like guitar hero Metallica But only because i can't always play my guitar at like, 3am. It seems to annoy people... Don't know why though?
2009-11-01 19:19:00

Author:
Unknown User


Maybe they don't appreciate fine rock? 2009-11-01 19:21:00

Author:
CyberSora
Posts: 5551


Guitar Hero was the first video game where you could play a fake instrument. Rock Band just added more instruments. So technically Rock Band copied Guitar Hero. Therefore Guitar Hero had every right to add more instruments themselves. No other way to compete.


But this name change thing seems stupid. It's the same thing as Guitar Hero 4 & 5 so why change the name? This is going to end up biting them in the butt.

First DJHero now this. . wow.
I agree with this. I remember thinking almost this exact same thing when Rock Band first came out; that it was just a Guitar Hero ripoff with more instruments. Band Hero is really stupid, though, unless it means, like, High School band, with tiny plastic trumpets and stuff.
2009-11-01 19:23:00

Author:
dandygandy2704
Posts: 1002


God... These games must be so easy to make. I mean, there's been LOADS out within such a short amount of time.

You're right. I mean they don't really have to change much in the core engine at all, they just have to plug in and test new songs and secure rights to use them.


You know what I say though? It all sucks, pick up a real instrument, n00bs.
2009-11-01 19:24:00

Author:
Foofles
Posts: 2278


You know what I say though? It all sucks, pick up a real instrument, n00bs.

This. Is truth kids.
2009-11-01 19:27:00

Author:
Unknown User


It's simpler to play a real instrument than to fake it, in my opinion.2009-11-01 19:28:00

Author:
CyberSora
Posts: 5551


It's simpler to play a real instrument than to fake it, in my opinion.

I would disagree. 5 buttons vs 22 - 24 frets over 6 strings + the fact that you have to stretch and move your hands around further to play it.

It does make you far more awesome though
2009-11-01 19:32:00

Author:
Unknown User


It's simpler to play a real instrument than to fake it, in my opinion.

No, not really. It didn't take me long to play really awesome solos on GH (and Ywnggwywyygyiewngigie Malsteem songs).

On real guitar that would take years to play up to that standard. They are still fun games though.
2009-11-01 19:39:00

Author:
S-A-S--G-U-N-R
Posts: 1606


I'll say one thing for these sorts of games though... they do wonders for your sense of timing and rhythm (but only in a digital sense... no sense of dynamics or other things...)

Which is something that is easy to take for granted on a real instrument, even if you are striving to hit all the right notes.
2009-11-01 21:40:00

Author:
Foofles
Posts: 2278


Guitar Hero was the first video game where you could play a fake instrument. Rock Band just added more instruments. So technically Rock Band copied Guitar Hero. Therefore Guitar Hero had every right to add more instruments themselves. No other way to compete.


But this name change thing seems stupid. It's the same thing as Guitar Hero 4 & 5 so why change the name? This is going to end up biting them in the butt.

First DJHero now this. . wow.

Whoa! whoa...whoa. Not only was Guitar Hero not the first game like that, but also, you talk as though Guitar Hero has been made by the same people the whole time. Let me illustrate ownership:

Harmonix: Guitar Hero ---> Guitar Hero 2 ---> Rock Band ---> Rock Band 2

Activision: Guitar Hero 3 ---> Guitar Hero World Tour ---> Metallica, Band Hero, DJ Hero, thousands of spinoffs, raping the genre.

Konami(I think): Rock Revolution ---> LOL

Now you know.

Now for my two cents: I refuse to buy a game that intentionally makes charts harder that should not be harder. Plus I hate the gfx style.

Also, Rock Band gets the Rock Band Network soon. Knowing that, you'd have to be insane to get GH or BH or whatever.
2009-11-01 21:50:00

Author:
BassDeluxe
Posts: 984


They should just make one big company.2009-11-01 22:13:00

Author:
TheMarvelousHat
Posts: 542


I meant that once you play one song on a real guitar (or any instrument), it makes playing any song easier. It's because you build rhythm, so you don't have to listen to a song to know the notes. You just got to know the rhythm.2009-11-02 00:50:00

Author:
CyberSora
Posts: 5551


Wow, I hadn't even HEARD of Band Hero. This is getting absurd, seriously. They JUST released Guitar Hero 5. It JUST came out. What in the hell.

I like the Rock Band model - the sequel made a few tweaks and adjustments, but for the most part, it's ALL THE SAME - they release the game, and the game continues in DLC, week after week. You shouldn't have to buy a new game to play new songs.

Guitar Hero and now Band Hero from Neversoft/Activision? Jesus, come on.

Also I looked at the track list for Band Hero. It is 90% ungodly horrors. I could list a few songs that I would actually care about in this entire game. It's far more pop than rock.

Definitely going to pass. Rock Band's still releasing a steady stream of solid DLC. No need to screw around with BAND Hero.

EDIT: For those curious, here is the tracklist (I apologize for some annoying copy-and-paste formatting issues):

"A Million Ways" OK Go
"ABC" Jackson 5
"American Pie" Don McLean
"Angels of the Silences" Counting Crows
"Bad Reputation" Joan Jett
"Back Again" Parachute
"Beautiful Soul" Jesse McCartney
"Believe" Bravery The Bravery
"Black Cat" Janet Jackson
"Black Horse and the Cherry Tree" KT Tunstall
"Bring Me to Life" Evanescence
"Dirty Little Secret" All-American Rejects The All-American Rejects
"Do You Really Want To Hurt Me" Culture Club
"Don't Speak" No Doubt
"Every Rose Has Its Thorn" Poison
"Fascination" Alphabeat
"Gasoline" Airborne Toxic Event The Airborne Toxic Event
"Hands Down" Dashboard Confessional
"Hang Me Up to Dry" Cold War Kids
"Happy Together" Turtles The Turtles
"Honky Tonk Women" Rolling Stones The Rolling Stones
"I Heard It Through the Grapevine" Marvin Gaye
"I Want You to Want Me" (Live) Cheap Trick
"If You Could Only See" Tonic
"In a Big Country" Big Country
"Just a Girl" No Doubt
"Kids" Robbie Williams and Kylie Minogue
"Kung Fu Fighting" Carl Douglas
"L.E.S. Artistes" Santigold
"Let's Dance" David Bowie
"Lifeline" Papa Roach
"Like Whoa" Aly & AJ
"Lips of an Angel" Hinder
"Love is a Battlefield" Pat Benatar
"Love Story" Taylor Swift
"Mr. Roboto" Styx
"Na?ve" Kooks The Kooks
"Ocean Avenue" Yellowcard
"Oh, Pretty Woman" Roy Orbison
"Our Lips Are Sealed" Go-Go's The Go-Go's
"Paralyzer" Finger Eleven
"Picture to Burn" Taylor Swift
"Pictures of You" Last Goodnight The Last Goodnight
"Put Your Records On" Corinne Bailey Rae
"Rio" Duran Duran
"Rock Star" N.E.R.D.
"Santa Monica (Watch the World Die)" Everclear
"She Will Be Loved" Maroon 5
"So Yesterday" Hilary Duff
"Steal My Kisses" Ben Harper and the Innocent Criminals
"Sugar, We're Goin Down" Fall Out Boy
"Take a Picture" Filter
"Take Back the City" Snow Patrol
"Take What You Take" Lily Allen
"The Adventure" Angels & Airwaves
"The Impression That I Get" Mighty Mighty Bosstones The Mighty Mighty Bosstones
"Turn Off the Light" Nelly Furtado
"Walking on Sunshine" Katrina and the Waves
"Wannabe" Spice Girls
"Warwick Avenue" Duffy
"When I'm Gone" 3 Doors Down
"Whip It" Devo
"YMCA Y.M.C.A." Village People
"You Belong With Me" Taylor Swift
"You Had Me" Joss Stone
2009-11-02 03:28:00

Author:
Teebonesy
Posts: 1937


That's the setlist? It's a good job Hinder is in there, or there would be NOTHING.2009-11-02 07:10:00

Author:
Unknown User


That's the setlist? It's a good job Hinder is in there, or there would be NOTHING.

Really? Hinder?

...Really?

No, seriously, I'm asking for real, I don't know if you're joking or not!

Hinder=Hoobastank=Nickelback=Evanescence=Paramore= most of the other bands on the "Band Hero" list. Sugary cereal boxes with "rock" printed on the box.

The oasis of good music is a rare sight on that tracklist.

For me, Filter and Bosstones are about the extent of it. There's a David Bowie song, but it's "let's dance".

Oh, and Mr. Roboto.

Because, Jesus Christ, it's Mr. Roboto.
2009-11-02 08:34:00

Author:
Teebonesy
Posts: 1937


Hillary Duff? Fallout Boy? Failasaurus Rex2009-11-02 13:36:00

Author:
Foofles
Posts: 2278


People please try to remember that band hero is aimed at a different audience.2009-11-02 15:03:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


Yeah, Hinder. Nothing wrong with them. The other bands are awful.2009-11-02 16:39:00

Author:
Unknown User


Forget the idea that someone might be ripping off someone else here. The real problem is with Activision in terms of games released. Just counting the consoles, things look like this between the two companies (Harmonix and Activision).

Harmonix:

Guitar Hero (2005)
Guitar Hero II (2006)
Guitar Hero Encore: Rocks the 80s (2007)
Rock Band (2007)
Rock Band 2 (2008)
The Beatles: Rock Band (2009)
Lego Rock Band (2009)

Activision:

Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock (2007)
Guitar Hero: Aerosmith (2008)
Guitar Hero: World Tour (2008)
Guitar Hero: Metallica (2009)
Guitar Hero: Smash Hits (2009)
Guitar Hero 5 (2009)
Guitar Hero: Van Halen (2009)
DJ Hero (2009)
Band Hero (2009)
_________________________________________________

The lists kind of speak for themselves as far as I'm concerned. In five years, Harmonix has developed seven titles pertaining to said genre. Activision, in three years (and that's being generous seeing as GH3 hit the market in the fall of 2007) has released nine titles with several more rumored to be in the works for next year alone. Talk about saturating the market...
2009-11-02 17:15:00

Author:
supersickie
Posts: 1366


Forget the idea that someone might be ripping off someone else here. The real problem is with Activision in terms of games released. Just counting the consoles, things look like this between the two companies (Harmonix and Activision).

Harmonix:

Guitar Hero (2005)
Guitar Hero II (2006)
Guitar Hero Encore: Rocks the 80s (2007)
Rock Band (2007)
Rock Band 2 (2008)
The Beatles: Rock Band (2009)
Lego Rock Band (2009)

Activision:

Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock (2007)
Guitar Hero: Aerosmith (2008)
Guitar Hero: World Tour (2008)
Guitar Hero: Metallica (2009)
Guitar Hero: Smash Hits (2009)
Guitar Hero 5 (2009)
Guitar Hero: Van Halen (2009)
DJ Hero (2009)
Band Hero (2009)
_________________________________________________

The lists kind of speak for themselves as far as I'm concerned. In five years, Harmonix has developed seven titles pertaining to said genre. Activision, in three years (and that's being generous seeing as GH3 hit the market in the fall of 2007) has released nine titles with several more rumored to be in the works for next year alone. Talk about saturating the market...

Thanks for listing that, sickie, saves me the time to explain that technically Rock Band is more original than Band Hero, Guitar Hero: World Tour or even Guitar Hero III. Why? Because Rock Band was created by Harmonix, the original creators of Guitar Hero. They sold their name by the gaming Nazis known as Activision, and began a much better concept: Rock Band. Activision, with their unfathomable and unquenchable lust for ideas to steal, stole Rock Band's concept and created World Tour. So if you look at it, Rock Band is the original of the two. Rock Band generally has better songlists and much more DLC. Titles Guitar Hero III and after are owned by an evil corporation. They also own Modern Warfare, another overrated title that's been bought from it's original creator.
2009-11-02 20:45:00

Author:
Xenifus
Posts: 306


Rock Band DOES have Children of Bodom....2009-11-02 21:02:00

Author:
Unknown User


They also own Modern Warfare, another overrated title that's been bought from it's original creator.[/B]

Actually, Infinity Ward created the first Call of Duty, and Activision has published the series since the beginning.

As for Band Hero, yes it's definitely aimed at a different market, but it is also completely and totally unnecessary. Rock Band proves that you can release an amazingly eclectic bunch of DLC for a single music game. Everything from pop to country to hip hop to classic rock to death metal to electronica. [Billy Mays]Chances are, no matter what your tastes, there's something in Rock Band for you![/Billy Mays]

BAND HERO, on the other hand, is clearly cashing in on the holiday buying frenzy and capitalizing on the "hero" brand familiarity. It's a worthless pile of crap, and several of the songs on the tracklist are already available on Rock Band.

It's definitely reached saturation point. On my shelf alone I've got Guitar Hero World Tour, Guitar Hero 5, and Rock Band 2. Other people have even more than that. I should have ONE game. I should have one **** music game, and all the DLC I could ever want for it.

It's so strange that Harmonix has to compete now with their own original creation of Guitar Hero. After Activision acquired it, the franchise really became a monster unleashed.
2009-11-02 23:51:00

Author:
Teebonesy
Posts: 1937


Dunno if this has been mentioned before but Harmonix made the first two Guitar Heroes and Rock Band, so it's not really copying.2009-11-02 23:52:00

Author:
Arkei
Posts: 1432


Thanks for listing that, sickie, saves me the time to explain that technically Rock Band is more original than Band Hero, Guitar Hero: World Tour or even Guitar Hero III.

My post on page 2 just didn't count

Lol, but seriously, did you guys know that Activision has copyrighted names such as Rock Villain, DJ Villain, Guitar Villain, and I think one other new Hero and Villain set that I forgot? It's really quite ridiculous.
2009-11-03 00:34:00

Author:
BassDeluxe
Posts: 984


Actually, Infinity Ward created the first Call of Duty, and Activision has published the series since the beginning.


But IW owns CoD, and so does Activision. What I'm saying is, Activision is buying every good game and making them terrible by making them overrated and milked 'till it's dust.
2009-11-03 01:12:00

Author:
Xenifus
Posts: 306


I used to LOVE these games... before they destroyed it. Now it's some poser game where everything is ****. I can play Expert on most songs, sure, but the boringness is awful. EVERY GAME IS THE SAME. Band Hero is aimed for the younger audience, and it really looks like everyone will buy it, resulting in a slew of games.

-Activision is the new EA,
chezhead
2009-11-03 01:21:00

Author:
chezhead
Posts: 1063


Activision:
Guitar Hero 5 (2009)
Guitar Hero: Van Halen (2009)
DJ Hero (2009)
Band Hero (2009)

The last few games just show how much they are dragging GH down (with the exception of Van Halen, probably. I haven't seen the full track list though). GH5 (lots of bad songs, more pop songs than before), DJ Hero speaks for it's self really and band hero takes the name away and has the worst track list of all of them. It seems like all good music is being removed completely from everywhere, slowly but surely.
2009-11-06 21:37:00

Author:
S-A-S--G-U-N-R
Posts: 1606


Let me get my opinion across. I HATE these games. Their easy to make and every time you buy one of these games you're basically buying the same thing as last time with a different tracklist. What also annoys me is the effect this has on younger children. They will buy the games and think that they are the best at guitar. We should be encouraging kids to play the real thing, not to play on some expensive plastic toy.2009-11-07 09:10:00

Author:
Bear
Posts: 2079


Where did this Call of Duty talk come from?2009-11-07 20:04:00

Author:
CyberSora
Posts: 5551


Let me get my opinion across. I HATE these games. Their easy to make and every time you buy one of these games you're basically buying the same thing as last time with a different tracklist. What also annoys me is the effect this has on younger children. They will buy the games and think that they are the best at guitar. We should be encouraging kids to play the real thing, not to play on some expensive plastic toy.

Actually they can encourage people to take up a real instrument and can give you some new music to listen to.
They are fun but I do agree that you are buying a very similar game every time.
2009-11-08 19:12:00

Author:
S-A-S--G-U-N-R
Posts: 1606


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