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I really want this game, but they didn't have it available at Toys R Us during the Buy 2 Get 1 free deal. It looks sick as heck, but I heard it is very challenging. I've listened in, and it sounds like one of the most unforgiving games of all time.

I was hoping to give this game a try before buying it, but Block Bluster seems to only carry 10 copies of Guitar Hero and Call of Duty.

Anyway, has anyone actually played it? What are your thoughts on it?		2009-10-27 03:14:00

Author:
Unknown User

one it is sold out atlus are making more copies as we speak. 2 you will never be able to rent this game because everyone wants it. 3 i haven't played it because its not in my Bl**** country.

I want it sooooo bad.		2009-10-27 09:23:00

Author:
robotiod
Posts: 2662

This has to be one of the best RPG's I have seen in a long time. The best thing about it? It seems to be everything I have ever wanted an RPG to be AND it's on the PS3. My only problem? I live in the UK so it isn't avaliable.

If there is no word on a UK release then import it I shall!		2009-10-27 10:49:00

Author:
Arikardo
Posts: 158

i'm waiting till december and if its not announced for UK i'm importing it2009-10-27 10:54:00

Author:
robotiod
Posts: 2662

I really want to play this based on the universal praise it's garnered... but I'm hesitant, because I'm really not good when it comes to "unforgiving" games. Let's just say I've had to replace a few controllers in my day.2009-10-28 04:42:00

Author:
Teebonesy
Posts: 1937

I really want to play this based on the universal praise it's garnered... but I'm hesitant, because I'm really not good when it comes to "unforgiving" games. Let's just say I've had to replace a few controllers in my day.

Opposite for me, heh. I think 90% of my gaming collection IS just "unforgiving" stuff. Shmups and more shmups and Baroque and stuff.


So this one was right up my alley. And such great gameplay!

Granted, it has it's quirks, but still. Its occaisional goofy flaws arent enough to ruin anything of the overall experience.


It is, though, indeed a very difficult game. Not quite Baroque-level difficult... after so much time spent with that one, Im finding this one to be a little on the easy side.... but most players are going to die..... alot.

But, it's never, ever, EVER an "unfair" sort of difficulty. The big thing that I consider extremely important when it comes to the design of difficult games or levels, is the idea of making them TECHNICALLY ENTIRELY FAIR, and this one pulls that off superbly.

And death in this game is meant to be a learning experience. You die at a specific spot, and you remember next time, hey, there's an ambush there, I better be careful. And you ALSO learn that, you need to be more careful in general... perhaps enter new areas with your shield up and a protective spell in place... because there might be more ambushes. And thus, you're better prepared to DEAL with said ambushes now.

All in all, such great game design and everything. It's just too bad that the game is getting a bit eclipsed by certain other releases right now, but.... then, this IS Atlus, and it's going about the exact way they usually plan it to go, so.... I guess that all works out, lol.		2009-10-29 00:38:00

Author:
Bridget
Posts: 334

Urhm, what is this game about?2009-10-29 00:40:00

Author:
CreateNPlay
Posts: 1266

I was thinking of importing this but i'm not entirely sure what i'm doing here xD

Are all ps3 games region free?
I don't want to order it from somewhere and find out i got a US only version or something.		2009-12-11 22:42:00

Author:
Dexiro
Posts: 2100

yeah they are i have a HK ps3 and us and Australian games work on it2009-12-11 22:52:00

Author:
rseah
Posts: 2701

yeah... this game got a rating of 9.7 out of 10!!!! people love it!!!!!

but i hate it! LOOOL... sorry.

my lil cousin bought this game and she loves it!!! but i couldnt get into it... idk... thatz just me. i guess im part of that 3% didnt like it. =(		2009-12-11 23:23:00

Author:
mdaj
Posts: 119

This is one of the best games I have played in years and the difficulty is actually something I welcomed (they make games way too easy nowadays for us old-school gamers lol). Atlus created a beautiful fantasy world with deep customiztion options, enjoyable action, great voice acting, a subtle but engrossing score, hundreds of lovingly rendered weapon/armor pieces, insane boss battles, near infinite replay value and some of the most original multiplayer elements to ever grace gaming. This is a definite PS3 GOTY contender and anyone with the system should pick it up! 2009-12-12 11:02:00

Author:
OCK
Posts: 1536

I wish it was in my country2009-12-12 11:11:00

Author:
robotiod
Posts: 2662

You could always import it. It's well wort it. 2009-12-12 17:19:00

Author:
Syroc
Posts: 3193

Ordered this from Canada for 50 euro delivered... pretty good deal I think. Should be here before Christmas! Can't wait!!!2009-12-13 01:58:00

Author:
Burrich
Posts: 1018

Im pretty set on getting this for Christmas but i have a few questions and concerns...first how is this whole "getting invaded" thing like? people seem to hate it yet like it and accept it at the same time, it sounds like a crappy time to me. People say you can just play in soul form but doesn't that have a few downsides? Also, how does this server thing work? I like to play with friends so if im just put into a random server with a slim chance of being able to get to my friend and summon him in. Last is this story gunna progress or is the games story just set in stone, no patches or expansions er what?2009-12-14 23:05:00

Author:
Littlebigdude805
Posts: 1924

Im pretty set on getting this for Christmas but i have a few questions and concerns...first how is this whole "getting invaded" thing like? people seem to hate it yet like it and accept it at the same time, it sounds like a crappy time to me.
I never got invaded, but I don't see it as much of a problem. Just another risk you have to life with.


People say you can just play in soul form but doesn't that have a few downsides?
I prefer it actually, because enemies don't hear me as easily and I'm not as frustrated when I die because I don't lose a bit of my healthbar.


Also, how does this server thing work? I like to play with friends so if im just put into a random server with a slim chance of being able to get to my friend and summon him in.
You can coordinate it a little bit by telling your friend where you are where he should place is soul stone (the thing that lets you invite other people to your game)


Last is this story gunna progress or is the games story just set in stone, no patches or expansions er what?
Don't know why you would need it the game is long enough without expansions on the first go. After Halloween and Christmans the difficulty is changed for a few days, but I haven't heard of any expansions.
As for patches, you don't need to fix what isn't broken.		2009-12-15 08:44:00

Author:
Syroc
Posts: 3193

I was thinking of importing this but i'm not entirely sure what i'm doing here xD

Are all ps3 games region free?
I don't want to order it from somewhere and find out i got a US only version or something.
Yes, all PS3 games are region free. Most Blu-ray movies are region free as well in case that's of interest.

I imported the Chinese version of Demon's Souls back in March and it was really worth the trouble, I have plenty of hours invested in it.


You can coordinate it a little bit by telling your friend where you are where he should place is soul stone (the thing that lets you invite other people to your game)
Another point about this is you need to be in the same soul level range to be able to see each other's soul signs.		2009-12-15 16:03:00

Author:
Ayneh
Posts: 2454

thanks syroc, so whats to do after the game ends?2009-12-15 23:05:00

Author:
Littlebigdude805
Posts: 1924

There's a game+ mode where you start all over again (keeping all your stats) but everything is harder... I believe there are game++ and game+++ modes as well for the third and fourth playthroughs.2009-12-16 10:08:00

Author:
Burrich
Posts: 1018

nice, now i gotta decide on either demon soul's or mag, anyone know if mag is accessible on Christmas (NA)2009-12-16 22:51:00

Author:
Littlebigdude805
Posts: 1924

Yahtzee put up his review for Demon's Souls (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/1321-Demons-Souls)on Zero Punctuation. Lately this show's been a bit irritating to me, but I actually found this particular review absolutely hilarious.2009-12-17 09:42:00

Author:
Teebonesy
Posts: 1937

Yeah, it's good, but he makes it sound a lot harder than it is. I guess he played the first level and nothing more.2009-12-17 11:24:00

Author:
Syroc
Posts: 3193

Well, here I was, all ready to clear up misconceptions about the game, telling people it really isn't that hard a game, they're just bad at it, but I think it's been said already. No point beating a dead horse, right?

Anyway, I rented this game and loved it. I ended up playing for about a month before I just got sick of it, but it's still a great game. What I really liked about it was that they seemed to balance the need for great equips with the need for appropriate levels quite nicely. Often, you see games that, as long as you buy new equips for your whole party at every new town you'll be fine. Other games force you to grind levels, ignoring equips completely, in hopes of making it father into the game. This is a mix of both, with a touch more focus on levels.

Also, in regard to Yahtzee's review: He's just an idiot, really. I mean, he stopped at 1-2! I guess he didn't realise that one's supposed to do 1-1, then 2-1 and so on before moving on to 1-2. Even if he did do it that way, he would've probably complained about it taking 10 minutes to kill the red dragon with a bow. Is it just me, or did he completely miss the point of the game? It's not "uber-hard" or "unforgiving" or any of the other stuff he said about it. It's more like a learning experience. If he died, it was his fault. He should've shaken it off and kept going, acknowledging his failure for what it was. One of the few reviews of his that I don't agree with.		2009-12-17 22:36:00

Author:
dandygandy2704
Posts: 1002

Is it just me, or did he completely miss the point of the game?

It's just you. He's a critic not a reviewer. I'd be disappointed if he didn't nit-pick and exaggerate. I also really enjoyed Demon's Souls but still thought his review was pretty darn funny. The things he cited would be true if you were really incompetent and lacked the ability to learn from your mistakes. And I had to laugh as he described his character's forehead...that's no one's fault but his...my female/royal looked awesome!

The difficulty of Demon's Souls is really over-blown, it's just not that difficult. You quickly learn not to walk around corners without having a shield up and that range attacks are your best friend. My pet peeve if how every review says you lose everything when you die...nope just un-spent souls...which you have an opportunity to reclaim, and it's easy to keep farming independent of progressing through a level...open gates then farm!

I didn't like the whole body/soul thing and white/black world tendency...I didn't think these worked very well...but a fun game with a unique take on online play, definitely worth playing		2009-12-17 22:55:00

Author:
fullofwin
Posts: 1214

You raise some good points. I really do think, though, that he just didn't try and learn from his failures. And I still thought the review was really funny. I didn't have any problems with the character creator, though... Oblivion's was much worse.2009-12-17 23:08:00

Author:
dandygandy2704
Posts: 1002

Pure white world tendency for everyone for the next few days. o/2009-12-22 09:03:00

Author:
Syroc
Posts: 3193

Gamespot names Demon Souls GOTY:

http://www.gamespot.com/best-of/game-of-the-year/index.html

Well deserved. I played tons of fantastic games this year and DS and Borderlands were on the top of my list for GOTY. I hope they make a sequel 		2009-12-25 21:28:00

Author:
OCK
Posts: 1536

Gamespot names Demon Souls GOTY:

http://www.gamespot.com/best-of/game-of-the-year/index.html

Well deserved. I played tons of fantastic games this year and DS and Borderlands were on the top of my list for GOTY. I hope they make a sequel

Wow, that's huge!

I just picked it up today and put in a good 4 hours already. I've only JUST beaten the first boss and gained the ability to actually level up.

So far I'm actually quite excited and enjoying it. Very rarely have I ever played a game that feels as dangerous as Demon's Souls. The world is so overwhelmingly HOSTILE. Every little corner, every shadow and doorway and ledge and pile of rubble can possibly spell death for you in seconds.

I LOVE the online features so far, and they actually serve to add to this feeling of hostility while still allowing for camaraderie. There's a feeling of bleak desperation, like everyone in the world is constantly on the brink of death. Pools of blood tell you how other players died - so if you enter a room or see a bridge COVERED in blood, then you know that you're in for something very, very nasty.

The messages too, are just awesome. And seeing little glimpses here and there of the apparitions of other players is so very cool. Before I picked up this game the online components sounded like a miniscule part of the game - it seemed like it was an old-school 1-player game with some forgettable online bonuses thrown in. But that's not the case at all. It adds so much to the atmosphere and the mood of terrible danger being constantly around you.

It's been a while since I've played a game that's given me such a feeling of accomplishment just for doing small tasks like get over a bridge or through a room or down some stairs. So far I'm really digging it, it's definitely unlike anything else I've played.		2009-12-27 11:54:00

Author:
Teebonesy
Posts: 1937

Wow, that's huge!

I just picked it up today and put in a good 4 hours already. I've only JUST beaten the first boss and gained the ability to actually level up.

So far I'm actually quite excited and enjoying it. Very rarely have I ever played a game that feels as dangerous as Demon's Souls. The world is so overwhelmingly HOSTILE. Every little corner, every shadow and doorway and ledge and pile of rubble can possibly spell death for you in seconds.

I LOVE the online features so far, and they actually serve to add to this feeling of hostility while still allowing for camaraderie. There's a feeling of bleak desperation, like everyone in the world is constantly on the brink of death. Pools of blood tell you how other players died - so if you enter a room or see a bridge COVERED in blood, then you know that you're in for something very, very nasty.

The messages too, are just awesome. And seeing little glimpses here and there of the apparitions of other players is so very cool. Before I picked up this game the online components sounded like a miniscule part of the game - it seemed like it was an old-school 1-player game with some forgettable online bonuses thrown in. But that's not the case at all. It adds so much to the atmosphere and the mood of terrible danger being constantly around you.

It's been a while since I've played a game that's given me such a feeling of accomplishment just for doing small tasks like get over a bridge or through a room or down some stairs. So far I'm really digging it, it's definitely unlike anything else I've played.

The great thing is the game just keeps getting better and better the further you progress. Since you had only just beaten the first boss when you had posted, you still did not have the ability to join other players games, summon players into your game or invade another players game for some sinister player vs player action lol. In other words, you have only just seen the tip of the iceberg as far as online elements are concerned and there is a whole lot of fun for you to look forward to 		2009-12-27 17:41:00

Author:
OCK
Posts: 1536

I got it around Christmas and have only just killed the phalanx, armored spider, and GOTTEN killed by the tower knight, gotta say this game is so harsh. I love the fact that (with he right timing) you can run your enemy through or stab them in the back instead of slowly hacking away at them. I'll probably be going into the ivory tower place tomorrow, any tips? the squid faces are tough.2009-12-28 06:23:00

Author:
Littlebigdude805
Posts: 1924

I got it around Christmas and have only just killed the phalanx, armored spider, and GOTTEN killed by the tower knight, gotta say this game is so harsh. I love the fact that (with he right timing) you can run your enemy through or stab them in the back instead of slowly hacking away at them. I'll probably be going into the ivory tower place tomorrow, any tips? the squid faces are tough.

lol, those squid guys were the bane of my existence. If playing as a physical character, wait for them to cast the paralysis lightening and dodge out of the way. They will then rush you which will give you prcious time to combo them to death. Mage is a bit easier, get behind them and within spell range and let loose your strongest magic.

As for Tower Knight you definitely want two ppl helping you, a mage is invaluable due to the fact that soul arrow penetrates it's armor for big damage. His weak spot is behind the knees, go get him!		2009-12-28 10:20:00

Author:
OCK
Posts: 1536

Or just buy a load of arrows.
They are cheap in 4-1 but it's hard to get there if you are just starting.		2009-12-28 16:11:00

Author:
Syroc
Posts: 3193

If you're having trouble with 3-1, the best advice I can give is go slowly and be QUIET! You can kill the Mindflayers easy with a backstab and then a slash or two as they're getting up. And be prepared to backtrack a lot before you get your bearings.2009-12-28 23:11:00

Author:
dandygandy2704
Posts: 1002

got through the first boss of ivory tower and then went to the "Metal Skeleton Ninjas" area, i hated it, alot, so i went back and killed the tower knight.

EDIT: all good advise, arrows where my savior in the ivory tower		2009-12-29 04:04:00

Author:
Littlebigdude805
Posts: 1924

I've been having the urge to buy this game but I'm afraid I'll be disappointed... Is this really worth the money?2009-12-29 11:51:00

Author:
TheJollyRajah
Posts: 466

Yes, very much so. Especially if you find current games unrewarding.


Just beat the old monk, the blind guy and the gigantic flying stingray. o/		2009-12-29 12:09:00

Author:
Syroc
Posts: 3193

I've been having the urge to buy this game but I'm afraid I'll be disappointed... Is this really worth the money?It's not a game for everyone, and it's hard to say if you will think it's a good game. Me, I loved it, but I did get sick of it after about a month. I'd rent it first and see what you think before you buy it.2009-12-29 15:39:00

Author:
dandygandy2704
Posts: 1002

I just bought this game yesterday...it's great...well except that I lost a bunch of souls right now...now I know better. lol.2009-12-30 07:51:00

Author:
Spider-Jew
Posts: 1090

I quit after dying like, 19 times on the first level. I'm not a "real" gamer, and I don't care. The game is cool, but it's not worth wasting 10 hours trying to beat the first level. Maybe if you're uber hardcore and feel like you have to prove yourself, this is the ****, but I don't really care. I'm perfectly fine playing Care Bear Adventure on Marshmellow mode. I'm still a level 82 Funshine Bear with the Tummy Symbol of Asgolar and you could never take me on MY turf, son!2009-12-31 04:43:00

Author:
qrtda235566
Posts: 3664

It gets much easier after the first level, but that's your decision. 2009-12-31 09:00:00

Author:
Syroc
Posts: 3193

It gets much easier after the first level, but that's your decision.
A little bit too easy I think... sure you still die a bit but once you realise that 6000 souls isnt really all that much and healing items arent that scarce (well yes, compared to most games they are but since the first level I have yet to be stuck for a healing item) you lose the fear.

I actually think I might start playing it offline as the hints, tips and bloodstains on the ground make the game much easier. There are few one hit kills after the first level and once you have your first spell and a bow you can take most enemies out at range. I probably died around 30-40 times (or more) in the first level between the Executioner Miranda (or whatever her name is), falling off cliffs and random enemies. Although it was annoying, I miss the fear from the first level... I hope it gets much harder in section 2 of each world.

But even then I dunno if it'll will bring back the full enjoyment... I need the fear back... at the same time I am already really looking forward to exploring each world again in New Game+ and I've only beaten 3 demons out of 15/16 so I guess that's a good sign. And I guess it's partly because I've started playing the game really carefully now, using ranged attacks on distant enemies... even most of the large enemies such as the Legion in 3-1, the big brute in 4-1 and even the demon of 2-1... I guess that would ruin anyone's enjoyment of the game but you kind of have to play it that way unless you want the hassle of trudging through the entire level again.

I guess I'm in two minds about the game. I loved it at first and now I'm not so sure mostly I think because of the way the game forces you to play the game... I'd almost have preferred if there were no ranged attacks in the game... though then some enemies would be impossible to kill.

I will say one thing... the atmosphere is great and while I hated 2-1, 3-1 and 4-1 when I started them, all the worlds really grow on you when you defeat the first demon and now I can't wait to return to explore the 2nd sections of each world.		2009-12-31 15:31:00

Author:
Burrich
Posts: 1018

BWHAHAHAHA....Armored Spider was no match for the Amazing Spider-Jew!!! This game is too fun. I need to start playing online though. I want to get the whole experience of the game.2009-12-31 16:58:00

Author:
Spider-Jew
Posts: 1090

I thought 3-2 was the scariest (after I got over the singing and bell ringing in 3-1, that is). The one level that I hated was 5-2 until I managed to lower a bridge that allows you to skip most of the swamp and giant goblins.

Started a new game as royalty today and have to say the first few levels are a joke with soul arrow. 		2009-12-31 18:09:00

Author:
Syroc
Posts: 3193

Finished 4-1 and 5-1. 4-1 was tough enough at points though as long as you used ranged attacks for some of the enemies it was fine.

5-1 was kind of a cake walk. Died once, just stupidity really... thing you have to watch out for is falling off, the smaller enemies don't do much damage but they can push you back quite a bit. Didn't really like the design of 5-1, but maybe it'll get better... wasn't much enemy variety.		2009-12-31 18:32:00

Author:
Burrich
Posts: 1018

I don't think I used any ranged attacks in 4-1 except for the flying stingrays.

5-2 is mostly deadly. But I won't spoil it for you. 		2009-12-31 18:38:00

Author:
Syroc
Posts: 3193

im on 3-2, (got the gloom armor, good stuff) I died at the black phantom squid face, really unfair enemy. I quit and went to bed, that stage is so dang long, the gargoyles are pretty simple as you just dodge the rapier and give em a few jabs with dragon longsword +1 (so awesome XD) but still, long and confusing.

EDIT: oh and yes i did skip ahead abit to 2-2 (pretty simple) and killed flame lurker with a blue phantom (with two people the boss gets confused and basically crawls around trying to pick a target) and ended up with like 60-80 thousand souls and a dragon longsword+1 (and the ring from patches) from just that stage XD		2010-01-01 01:22:00

Author:
Littlebigdude805
Posts: 1924

Yeah, I killed the giant poop monster today. I feel good. 2010-01-02 23:24:00

Author:
qrtda235566
Posts: 3664

Yeah, I killed the giant poop monster today. I feel good.

TMI....lol		2010-01-03 03:24:00

Author:
Spider-Jew
Posts: 1090

Hey whats the story behind the adjudicator? I was confused as to what it was and how it fit into the area, ironic how in 2-2 you get sluggish enemies and a ninja fire lurker boss and in shrine of storms you get ninja skeletons enemies and a gluttonous slow boss2010-01-03 03:30:00

Author:
Littlebigdude805
Posts: 1924

Oh man, I love this game. I'm still early on, having just reached 4-1. At the point I was playing, I seemed to have been signed out of the servers, as the messages all disappeared and I was unable to leave any myself. I felt suddenly quite alone, and yearned for the warmth of other ghostly warriors going through the same hardships as myself.

There's a great feeling of camaraderie in the online game, because you know that everyone else is going through the same hell you are.

If I were able to leave messages, I would definitely have left a "The real Demon's Souls starts here" note in front of 4-1. Seriously. Oh my god. What a jump. Those mind-flayer octopus-headed prison guards were absolute ********, but the giant rolling ninja skeletons and freaking massive lurking demon beastie that I recognize as my first murderer, all within the first leg of the level? You crazy, Demon's Souls! You crazy!

I'm actually really in love with the world itself and the story. In early videos I saw of the game it just looked really bland, but now that I've lived in it for a while I get it. The grim, dank, bleak, depressing, hopeless, and unbelievably dark environments make it feel real, and astonishingly dangerous. Not only that, but the actual designs of the locations don't feel like they were designed so much for a videogame, but rather it feels like real locations were retrofitted to work as a videogame. These places look and feel real. And you can really get lost in them.

The online components have been great. A bit of a 3-1 spoiler:

The decrepit slave mage up above the church with the strange glowing golden spell - he promises you he's no enemy, and he pleads for you to leave him alone - but in my game he was surrounded my messages like "adversary" and "beware the liar" and "attack!". So I went with the notes and killed him - and it turned out this saved my skin when I fought the boss.

Back to the story though - I'm really loving it. I love the mood in the nexus and talking to the people there. It's occurred to me that this is by far the DARKEST fantasy world I've witnessed in any fashion. I wish they delved more into the details and made it a bit more story-driven. You get a tiny blurb about the backstory of the prison tower of Latria, but it's ridiculously vague. What we witness is a horror of a prison, a hell on earth where every cell is a torture chamber, where the ragged prisoners, stripped completely of humanity, beg horribly for death. Patrolling the dark corridors are the eeriest creatures I've seen in a videogame in a long time - the octopus-headed demon guards, carrying their bells and lanterns. You know as soon as you see them that they're going to be trouble. Outside the tower, stretched across the sky of the dark kingdom, an ominous spider's web. The whole time I wanted to know the details of how this place came to reach such a state of affairs.

Does anyone here read dark fantasy by any chance, and know of any novels or series that I might like? Demon's Souls has given me the bug to read some similarly dark stuff. Not so much Robert Jordan or George RR Martin, but more niche stuff?		2010-01-04 08:49:00

Author:
Teebonesy
Posts: 1937

Ok now i definatly have to get this game xD

Where can i import this from? I need this!!!		2010-01-04 09:52:00

Author:
Dexiro
Posts: 2100

I've bought from this site a few times:

http://www.videogamesplus.ca/product_info.php?currency=EUR&products_id=15657

Got Demon's Souls from there, I got a small art book and soundtrack CD free for about 50 euro delivered.		2010-01-04 16:17:00

Author:
Burrich
Posts: 1018

Best game, hands down. I am a level 83 knight, Demon's Souls is the best RPG out there.2010-01-06 04:16:00

Author:
Unknown User

I am a little surprised at how easy the bosses get once you know how to shoot arrows and perform magic spells. I mean, the game is still a pain in general, but I think the cliffs kill me more than anything else.2010-01-06 16:47:00

Author:
Spider-Jew
Posts: 1090

Ah Demon's Souls, how I enjoyed thee this year.

If anyone needs tactical advice, I raked up my Platinum for this a few weeks ago as a mage/melee hybrid, so feel free to drop me a PM.

Flamelurker and False King fights hands down are my favorites. All the dodging really keeps you on your toes!		2010-01-06 19:21:00

Author:
Thegide
Posts: 1465

I bought this game over a week ago, loved playing it for two days, and then my PS3 broke again... It's been a week without games and I'm already having severe withdrawal symptoms, like restlessness and severe cuts on my arm from a butter knife.

Lol kidding, but I really miss my PS3 and Demon's Souls. 		2010-01-08 23:11:00

Author:
TheJollyRajah
Posts: 466

Playing as royalty now. What a joke. 2010-01-18 20:42:00

Author:
Syroc
Posts: 3193

Yeah, playing as Royal is like easy mode.2010-01-18 20:45:00

Author:
Thegide
Posts: 1465

Yup, and if all else fails I can just run through to the boss. This game is really not hard if you know what to do and how to exploit it.
/might start a barbarian next		2010-01-19 17:22:00

Author:
Syroc
Posts: 3193

What is it about royalty that makes it "a joke"? Is it the fact that he starts with the soul arrow spell and a silver catalyst? Just wondering here.

I'm getting to the endgame here, just have one more boss to beat (the final Valley of Defilement boss). But I want to try to get as many unique stuff, farm stones, level up, etc as I can before doing this. This, unfortunately, is where the game's beginning to lose me. I'm learning that my world tendencies that aren't pure white, cannot be fixed. I can't make them pure white. I can't be invaded by black phantoms and there are no more bosses to beat. There's nothing I can do. So I miss out on a bunch of stuff. That sucks.

Also, the farming and grinding. Earning souls for level ups and farming stones for upgrading items is excruciatingly time consuming and lacking considerably in the "fun" department. I was looking forward to going for a platinum in this game, but all this farming and grinding is sucking the fun out, so I might give up on that. This is one game where I would absolutely exploit things like the duplication glitch just to avoid the incessant grinding it takes to get decent levels and upgrade weapons.		2010-01-20 02:37:00

Author:
Teebonesy
Posts: 1937

I ordered this last week. I have an exam today too, maybe my failureness will be rewarded by a nice frustrating game at the end of the day to ease the pain

Not sure how many posts i've made saying i wish i had this game now xD -- too many!
It's close anyway. Hope i can actually see this game through to the end, it seems like the kind of game that i would.		2010-01-20 05:12:00

Author:
Dexiro
Posts: 2100

I ordered this last week. I have an exam today too, maybe my failureness will be rewarded by a nice frustrating game at the end of the day to ease the pain

Not sure how many posts i've made saying i wish i had this game now xD -- too many!
It's close anyway. Hope i can actually see this game through to the end, it seems like the kind of game that i would.

It gets easier as you go along, it's the early stuff that's the hardest... and also the most satisfying, the most fun. By far my favorite memories of this game were my early crawls through the first stages, scared to death, not knowing WHAT was going to be around the next corner, lacking decent equipment and liable to die by only a couple of hits.

Once you've been through all the stages, fought all the bosses, leveled up and gotten some good gear, that fear and opression tends to taper off and you're more the master of your surroundings than the other way around.

that being said, at level 100 I still can't beat some of these bosses on my own. i just finished the 1-4 boss, and had 2 guys with me to take him down. Without them, I reckon I would have been a goner.

I tried Flamelurker and Maneater like 8 times each on my own before enlisting blue phantoms (ie, other players in co-op), and even THEN it took a few tries. These dudesies are tough as nails.

With the maneater fight, every single one of my deaths was a result of rolling off the edge of the narrow friggin platform. You've got to be kidding me. Over and over and over.		2010-01-20 06:10:00

Author:
Teebonesy
Posts: 1937

What is it about royalty that makes it "a joke"? Is it the fact that he starts with the soul arrow spell and a silver catalyst? Just wondering here.
Basically that, yeah. And if you buy Flametoss as your second spell you can run through most stages killing pretty much everything from a distant in less than three hits. 3-1 with it's squid faced enemies can be beaten in one go because there is nothing that can kill you if you are quick with your fire spells.
I even beat Flamelurker on my first go... (And Dragon God but he is more of a "puzzle" anyway.)
I'm sure it helps that I played through the levels before but still...

Regarding getting platinum, you don't need to make all weapons yourself as it's possible to share them with other. Just need to find someone who trust you not to run off with his weapons.		2010-01-20 08:54:00

Author:
Syroc
Posts: 3193

It gets easier as you go along, it's the early stuff that's the hardest... and also the most satisfying, the most fun. By far my favorite memories of this game were my early crawls through the first stages, scared to death, not knowing WHAT was going to be around the next corner, lacking decent equipment and liable to die by only a couple of hits.


I have it now and that's exactly how i'm feeling xD
Well it's kind of wearing off quickly and i'm becoming more reckless which i suppose isn't too good

I wish it'd give me more help in some areas, like i have no idea how to upgrade stats or save the game - and so far i've only found some guy that sells swords :/
Oh and my online features turned off for some reason D: This game just isn't the same without that.		2010-01-20 18:48:00

Author:
Dexiro
Posts: 2100

You can upgrade your stats after you beat the first boss.2010-01-20 19:20:00

Author:
Syroc
Posts: 3193

Does anyone know how the online connection works on this game?
It was working at first but now it's just disappeared without warning, would i need to play it on a us account or what?		2010-01-20 20:06:00

Author:
Dexiro
Posts: 2100

Nah, it works fine with a European account. Can you still see the pink writing and ghosts every now and then?2010-01-20 23:06:00

Author:
Syroc
Posts: 3193

No that's what disappeared. They were all over the place when i first started playing but then they just disappeared.
I've tried restarting the game and my ps3, even deleting the save file completly. Nothing seems to work :/

In other news though i've beaten the first boss!
Now i'm too exhausted to do anything else though.		2010-01-20 23:16:00

Author:
Dexiro
Posts: 2100

Hm, that is weird.2010-01-21 10:41:00

Author:
Syroc
Posts: 3193

It's working again now. Maybe it's just connection issues with my rubbishy internet xD
I'm assuming it times out when the servers are busier.		2010-01-21 11:03:00

Author:
Dexiro
Posts: 2100

Really interested in this game, would all of you owners consider this a must buy?
I don't have that much "game time" besides LBP these days so I want to be sure I buy a game that is totally worth it.		2010-01-21 11:06:00

Author:
Zwollie
Posts: 2173

Are you easily frustrated and impatient? If yes, than it might not be a must buy for you as the first few levels and one or two of the latter bosses can be very frustrating and tough if you are impatient.

If not then yes it's worth it. Even I, though I'm not into this sort of game normally, think it's by and large a great game.		2010-01-21 12:04:00

Author:
Syroc
Posts: 3193

Is it possible for a game to be too awesome?

Now that the fear's gone away this doesn't seem anywhere near as hard as it's hyped up to be. Sure it's a bit harder than most games but as long as it stays fair you sort of condition yourself for it - like playing games such as megaman for example, you don't mind dieing a few hundred times before you beat a level.
It's definatly not as hard as monster hunter either, i spent weeks playing that and the fear's still there!

But yeah now that i'm comfortable with everything it's become incredibly addictive! The combat is so simple and effective i'm suprised more people aren't using a similar system, and the design is jawdropping especially in Latria. Those towers looming in the distance on 3-2 i think look like the lizard ruins from crash bandicoot 2 only with more creepy-brutalness

I still have a while to go but i'm still looking forward to seeing if that 6th archstone is ever activated 		2010-01-26 08:00:00

Author:
Dexiro
Posts: 2100

I still have a while to go but i'm still looking forward to seeing if that 6th archstone is ever activated

I'm really really sorry to do this, but I have to shamelessly spoil this for you. I don't want you to go through what I went through.
You never go through the 6th archstone. It's not a playable level. You don't see it or venture to the northern lands of the giants. The game barely even gives you the story behind it, but I've dug in enough to discover the proper backstory:

When the Old One awakened and the demons were unleashed in the grey fog, the northern lands were of particular concern because of the presence of the giants, and they were one of the early regions to fall. Demon souls are able to infest the living and turn them into great demon beasties. Boletaria sent great armies to fight the demon hordes and the monstrous giants, but couldn't contain the threat. The armies were wiped out. The northern lands succumbed completely to the demons. Check out this unbelievably epic artwork of the battle (http://www.demons-souls.com/wall_9_800_600.jpg).

So the lands, and the archstone, were given up for lost. They were destroyed so that no one could venture into the cursed place. I mean, if you ask me the wretched Valley of Defilement seems far-gone enough to warrant a similar archstone destruction, but there it is, intact. So you can only imagine how bad the northern lands are.

The developers have stated that they weren't able to get everything in the game that they originally wanted - perhaps the 6th archstone is one of these? That broken, terrifying archstone gives a sense of foreboding that few other things in the game do. It's a crying shame you never get to go in.

But I don't want you to get your hopes up the whole game only to be crushingly disappointed. Hence my audacious, balls-out spoiler.		2010-01-26 09:48:00

Author:
Teebonesy
Posts: 1937

I know it doesn't get activated during the game, i was wondering if the devs planned on unlocking it as dlc.

It doesn't necessarily have to be an archstone to the land of giants, maybe it was replaced during it's repair - although it would make an unbelievable level.

Imagine it; a barren land in ruins with huge open areas and massive ruins, every enemy is twice your size and you get some awesome full sized giants as bosses. The larger enemies would make a great gameplay change. I picture it somewhat like SotC ^^
You could get some puzzle gameplay in there too like planning how to avoid being spotted by a demon that's too large to take out.

As dlc it could be a multiplayer only level too where you form a small party and form different tactics for the large enemies such as distracting them so another player can get to a weakspot at the back.

Probably won't happen but it would be beyond epic and incredibly difficult 		2010-01-26 11:53:00

Author:
Dexiro
Posts: 2100

Let me re-new your hopes ;D I heard on a forum that it gets repaired either by killing baldwin extremely early like before you go into the first level or it was kill that first fatty demon boss thats your first encounter, most likely the baldwin one good luck "World 6 is a hidden world. You have to collect ALL the archstone pieces in all the other worlds. I think there is 6 in all. Once you have them you are to be able to fix and open the 6th archstone. (so I've heard, but so far I only found 4 pieces)" "I heard somewhere that that world was already made but there were a couple major bugs with it so FromSoftware dropped it from the game and left the unused archstone for future use once the bugs were fixed. If thats the case it shouldnt be too long of a wait." well that's all i could find for now2010-01-27 05:21:00

Author:
Littlebigdude805
Posts: 1924

There was no need for a triple post - especially since i already knew it wasn't in the game >.<2010-01-27 07:24:00

Author:
Dexiro
Posts: 2100

Not in the game yet
those weren't for you
there for everybody
that's why i posted them
and 3 posts won't hurt anyone especially since they were all in the same minute, but hey be angry about whatchya want.		2010-01-27 07:29:00

Author:
Littlebigdude805
Posts: 1924

Why didn't you just edit your first post :/

The first 2 posts weren't even true anyway, not exactly helpful 		2010-01-27 20:12:00

Author:
Dexiro
Posts: 2100

well i could delete them..but i wont...mwahaha!2010-01-27 22:39:00

Author:
Littlebigdude805
Posts: 1924

Choose your world tendency (http://www.demons-souls.com/vday.php) for Valentines Day. (American version only presumably)2010-02-06 17:38:00

Author:
Syroc
Posts: 3193

Choose your world tendency (http://www.demons-souls.com/vday.php) for Valentines Day. (American version only presumably)

Aw, what the hell?? Black world tendency is winning??? ANYONE can get black world tendency easy, on any level, anytime they want! It costs NOTHING!!

White world tendency, meanwhile, can be nearly impossible to get. This is a perfect chance to take care of PWWT events before moving on to the easier-to-get black world stuff. GRRRR....		2010-02-06 21:49:00

Author:
Teebonesy
Posts: 1937

I voted black. Already have most of the white world goodies and would like to see what it's like to play with pure black for a day. 2010-02-07 12:13:00

Author:
Syroc
Posts: 3193

I want white, i've only ever seen areas that are blocked off unless you have white tendancy :/

The reasons for PW seem more reasonable too.
All the reasons i've seen for PB are basically "i want to level up faster" and "you get better drops".		2010-02-07 13:42:00

Author:
Dexiro
Posts: 2100

I choose black also.

I chose this because, although Pure White World Tendency is harder to get than Pure Black World Tendancy, i want all my worlds black so i can kill named Black Phantoms.

Killing them (1 in each world) will make my Character tendancy shift to white, which is even harder to do than Pure White World Tendancy.
Pure White Character Tendancy will allow me to get the Friend Ring off the Monumental. which i sorely need.

My decision has been made!

ps: I'm running out of Stone of emepheal eyes also.		2010-02-07 22:35:00

Author:
BlackToof
Posts: 172

White won (white: 50.6; black: 49.4)2010-02-13 08:14:00

Author:
Syroc
Posts: 3193

The German rating board just rated this so it'll be released in Europe soon. o/ You won't have an excuse not to buy it then.2010-04-15 08:08:00

Author:
Syroc
Posts: 3193

The German rating board just rated this so it'll be released in Europe soon. o/ You won't have an excuse not to buy it then.

Oh i'm importing it soon anyways.		2010-04-15 14:38:00

Author:
robotiod
Posts: 2662

I'm actually considering buying it again. 2010-04-15 16:02:00

Author:
Syroc
Posts: 3193

Eh. I bought my PS3 for 200 with 2 controllers, LBP, and Demons' Souls. I gave DS a good half hour-45 minutes but got kinda bored.

I much prefer monster hunter.		2010-04-16 03:29:00

Author:
monstahr
Posts: 1361

demon's souls is unique, instead of relying so heavily on your abilities you rely more on how you use them in timing. Monster Hunter looks really interesting in appearance, as in the commercials where there running around with cool gear, but unfortunately the new one is coming out for the wii....cmon...2010-04-16 03:40:00

Author:
Littlebigdude805
Posts: 1924

Demon's Souls is brilliant. Best game of 09. Right now I have a lvl 85, so if anyone is around that lvl, I'll be more than happy to do some co-op. 2010-04-16 03:53:00

Author:
TheJollyRajah
Posts: 466

i just restarted royalty am around lvl 40, doing a blueblood build, right now im rocking the Dragon Bone Smasher with adjudicators shield XD not very blueblood at all cause its slow but extremely powerful but it will do till i get Blueblood Sword 2010-04-16 03:56:00

Author:
Littlebigdude805
Posts: 1924

demon's souls is unique, instead of relying so heavily on your abilities you rely more on how you use them in timing. Monster Hunter looks really interesting in appearance, as in the commercials where there running around with cool gear, but unfortunately the new one is coming out for the wii....cmon...

monster hunter plays the same way. except when you die, the game doesn't troll you.

leveling up and stuff is such an archaic mechanic anyway. not manly at alllllllllllll

and the wii is so legit!		2010-04-16 04:34:00

Author:
monstahr
Posts: 1361

Demon's Souls = best RPG for the PS3

already on NG+ with my lvl 78 character and he has the blueblood sword on him with some other great equipment...people should add me i could use some blue phantoms on my quest to obtain all the unique weapons and spells

p.s. if Mm did a complete Demon's Souls pack...id die happy

Costume Pack:
- King Doran armor set
- brushwood armor set
- gloom armor set
- sage freke armor set
- garl vinland armor set

level pack:
all 5 archstones with the nexus being the intro level
youd fight all 3 bosses in each archstone
and the costume pack to be hidden there would be either executioner miralda, maiden astrea, yuria the witch, or Maiden in Black

hands costume parts:
- large sword of searching
- blueblood sword
- lava bow
-Insanity Catalyst
-scraping spear
-morion blade

back costume pieces:
- meat cleaver
- keel smasher (dragon bone sword)
- northern regalia
- stormruler
- dozer axe

gameplay object:

either melee weapon or some sort of dashing powerup

animations (like fragrances pack):
-wave
-warding spell cast
-moving soul arrow spell cast

costume skins:
-red phantom
-blue phantom

have a bunch more ideas but you get the picture...in short DEMON'S SOULS KICKS *** and i wish Mm would make a Demon's Souls pack...even exclusive just for me lol....id gladly pay 30 dollars and maybe more to have a huge pack like i just described


p.s.s - demon's souls gameplay is practically real life survival...there are creatures that want you dead and don't follow a simple road to achieve it...they will hide on cliffs and throw rocks at you...or follow you blindly into the poison swamp in a fit of rage...and some are smart enough to evade your attacks until your stamina is down....this game cannot be won with brute force alone...it requires cunning and strategy....best RPG in the PS3...none can compete

also there is no 6th archstone...its been broken...and you dont get it repaired when you unlock all the archstones...only thing that happens by that time is you face the final boss...6th archstone is not coming out ever....though i wish they would put it as DLC

also idk how Demon's Souls is boring and Monster Hunter is interesting...couldn't stay awake with monster hunter...all it is was doing quests and camping out in your house...no real story to run with...no motivation to keep playing...except to get the cool armor...and even that was just made into a chore...too much collecting...demon's souls has story, gameplay, replay value...and a unique and SWEEEET ONLINE

i still like MH...even tho its boring at most times while demon's souls is challenging and rewarding 		2010-04-16 06:08:00

Author:
Shadowcrazy
Posts: 3365

if Mm did a complete Demon's Souls pack...id die happy
Hell yeah!

With the possible costumes you failed to mention the Maiden in Black though. 		2010-04-16 15:48:00

Author:
Ayneh
Posts: 2454

Lol i missed a lot of them on purpose cuz i know Mm wont add much so i just posted my favs2010-04-16 21:16:00

Author:
Shadowcrazy
Posts: 3365

what about a background? nexus maybe? or the scene from dragon god fight2010-04-17 20:46:00

Author:
Littlebigdude805
Posts: 1924

i would say nexus...would be more universal than anything else....although the dragon god place sounds nice...maybe even shrine of storms in the outside...i liked it better then any area in the game

and some of the music would be boss fights...and maybe the maiden in blacks theme		2010-04-18 00:21:00

Author:
Shadowcrazy
Posts: 3365

The Tower of Latria would probably be more destinctive then most other levels in regards to looking different from current LBP stages, though given the overall creepy and gory atmosphere it might not be suitable for LBP's E rating.

And I'd love an Old King Doran costume.		2010-04-18 04:40:00

Author:
Dapiek Absaroka
Posts: 512

yeah that's why i think the nexus would work out more...since everybodys been there....or my fav - the shrine of storms would be good too...especially having some storm beasts flying around in the backround....maybe have vanguard sitting there too LBP style

and yeah Doran costume set is one of my ideas for it lol

i wish atlus would co-op with Mm and make this happen...make it the biggest DLC pack ever too...would love to see my ideas come to life 		2010-04-18 05:24:00

Author:
Shadowcrazy
Posts: 3365

Oh I hope this arrives today, cant wait to play it.2010-04-22 15:03:00

Author:
robotiod
Posts: 2662

A Demon's Souls LBP PACK?? Are you people CRAZIES??

Demon's Souls is possibly the DARKEST GAME I've EVER PLAYED. The valley of defilement, complete with "depraved ones" and "plague babies"? Appropriate for LBP?

The royalty of Latria, tortured to the point of poisoned minds and begging for death?

Generally-speaking the darkest and one of the most frightening and freaky games I've ever played?
As LBP CONTENT??

I may be alone in this one, but I call that "tumbling off the deep end". I LOVE LBP, and I LOVE Demon's Souls. But I also LOVE marshmallows and LOVE salsa con queso. I am NOT about to melt them together!

In other news, I beat Demon's Souls and haven't posted here! My thoughts, wrapped in handy spoiler tags:

For a while I wanted to try and get a much as I could on the first play through - for example, PWWT events and PBWT events. I had a lot that I hadn't done. Farming stones, crafting weapons. It was becoming so ridiculously daunting that I just put it on the shelf and stopped playing. I realized I had sapped the fun out of it by grinding and worrying about acquiring everything, when in fact it was the GAME that I loved, not the nitty gritty crap on the side. So I went back in and finished the game - those last few bosses are doozies - and finally saw the ending.

I have to say I was very surprised and pleased with the overall tone of the ending and the Old One. They really play against your expectations with that final "boss". After seeing the horrors committed to the world by this thing, you really expect something unspeakably evil and terrible to look at. What you get is something like a gigantic tree worm. It's made of wood, leaves, branches. It doesn't exude evil, more mystery. And the final boss, after having completed some of the toughest bosses I've ever fought in a videogame, is a writhing, weakened, pathetic man reduced to a primal, pitiful, worm-like beast. He's a total pushover and you actually feel somewhat guilty for killing him, as he lies there, barely able to move, squirming wretchedly.

It was good to finally see the maiden fulfill her task, and it was a melancholy scene. her story's a very sad one. The whole game's story is really. It's a story that begins sunken so deep in despair that there's no possibility for a happy ending. But there is an ending, and I don't think it was inappropriate to the game's mood.

I'll definitely do a ng+ sometime down the road when I'm feeling brave, but I think I'm done trying to get a platinum and unlock everything the game has to offer through grinding, grinding, grinding. It just saps the fun out of an otherwise brilliant experience.		2010-04-22 22:48:00

Author:
Teebonesy
Posts: 1937

dude.....ng+ will get you angrier the second time....all i can say is im happy for you that you did all the stuff you could early...i made the mistake not to...and boy am i paying for it now....but slowly im recovering back to my old glory...and with soulsucker now? hehehe well lets say i can afford to level up now

but yeah i agree DS and LBP dont mix....still a costume pack would be nice tho...especially a garl vinland sackboy id be laughing and enjoying it 		2010-04-23 02:26:00

Author:
Shadowcrazy
Posts: 3365

ow what an awesome game demons souls is, i beat it onese now but i kinda screwed myself by killing all the mages in the nexus
ah whell, i wanted to try something other than a thief anyway.

but i wanna know couls im shure im not the only one who thinks mmo's should be up to this standard...?

ow and btw, i looked around and theres some exelent demons souls levels on lbp by some japoneser guy that are just like the actual game.		2010-04-24 15:20:00

Author:
ptwob
Posts: 99

I finally got this the other day, I have been trying a few classes and I'm really enjoying it, I have played about 4 hours with the soldier class (I beet vanguard with it so I decided to keep it)
And I must say I am really happy I got it now and didn't wait.		2010-05-08 13:54:00

Author:
robotiod
Posts: 2662

Excellent! Prefer more agile classes myself. Though obviously it doesn't matter much in the end. 2010-05-08 13:58:00

Author:
Syroc
Posts: 3193

Excellent! Prefer more agile classes myself. Though obviously it doesn't matter much in the end.

Well I tried the theif class but I wasn't very good at dodging very well, I'm going to play for a while and then try other classes. But when I have needed to be agile I just removed my armour, works for the most part.		2010-05-08 14:04:00

Author:
robotiod
Posts: 2662

Yup, true.
Currently have a magic based character that can beat pretty much everything but also dies as soon as an enemies touches him. 		2010-05-08 14:06:00

Author:
Syroc
Posts: 3193

Oh, man. Demon's Souls. I haven't played this game in ages, man. Ages! Sometimes, you rent a game, and when you return it, you think to yourself "I won't really want to play this again. I'm glad I just rented it."

Demon's Souls is not that game. If I had a bit more money right now, I think I'd run out and buy this, just because it's that awesome. So, yeah.		2010-05-08 16:32:00

Author:
dandygandy2704
Posts: 1002

Last exam Monday morning should be back home by Wednesday... Demon's Souls is definitely the first thing I'll be playing... Been dying to play it the last while.2010-05-08 21:19:00

Author:
Burrich
Posts: 1018

This is out in Europe this Friday, so go do yourself a favour and buy this game. 2010-06-22 12:40:00

Author:
Syroc
Posts: 3193

Imported it a few months ago, but never played past World 1-2.
Starting out with a thief wasn't such a great idea after all hehe, I'll have to try again sometime with an easier class.		2010-06-22 12:50:00

Author:
Laina
Posts: 99

I tried playing this game when my brother got it for christmas. I remember beating the first boss, then attacking a merchant and then he would tirelessly try to kill me. I've made a new guy, and all I can say is HOLY **** SINCE WHEN WAS THERE A DRAGON IN 1-1?!


Imported it a few months ago, but never played past World 1-2.
Starting out with a thief wasn't such a great idea after all hehe, I'll have to try again sometime with an easier class.

I'm not sure, but my brother did 1-2 as one of the later levels. You don't need to do the levels in order, I don't think. I don't think it was intended by the creators for you to do them in order either.		2010-06-22 17:54:00

Author:
qrtda235566
Posts: 3664

nope no order whatsoever...but you DO need to beat them all to beat the game of course....just there is no order of archstone to play...you can play the main ones...just the archstones within the main ones you have to beat in order to progress to the next and so on

already beat it...loved the ending...loved how the old one looks, replayed it and proved even harder for me so i gave up....might play it again.


all in all....one of the best RPGS ever created		2010-06-23 00:18:00

Author:
Shadowcrazy
Posts: 3365

I finished it today for the 5th time with my mage (6th time overall)
Still love this game, its so hard , I ussually do 1-1
then do 4-1 and 4-2
then do 1-2 and move on to 2-1
Then I go back to finish 4-3
Then I do 1-3
and then do 2-2
2010-06-23 00:25:00

Author:
robotiod
Posts: 2662

I'm playing as a magician as well. I might do your order, because this is my first time playing through the game.2010-06-23 06:46:00

Author:
qrtda235566
Posts: 3664

meh...i always did stonefang first....easiest dungeon for me

then i do shrine of storms, but sometimes i might go to the plague area for some nice armor and ****

oh and tower of latria...because i LOVE those trolling mind flayers haha ;D		2010-06-23 06:51:00

Author:
Shadowcrazy
Posts: 3365

i never liked being a vulnerable class, but it seems no matter how armored up you are you screwed if they hit you anyway -_- you just more likely if your held down by armor XD i may try mage cause im tired of having to melee opponents that have like a half second opening, come to think of it i usually end up shooting them anyway, might as well pump it lol XD so yea ill try mage

EDIT: also i usually do the entire burrow king archstone at once, its a bit lengthy but its so easy, enemies are so dang slow you can just have a epic fest with that cool animation that comes with backstab 		2010-06-23 06:51:00

Author:
Littlebigdude805
Posts: 1924

if i were you id focus on dexterity, endurance, intelligence, and faith

dex for archery
end for equip burden
int for magic
faith for miracles of course

but yeah thats for you since you like long range

i diversify with the two in which mostly i use melee but i also use long range when facing BPs and such

also a neat trick for those of you who are miners like me

in stonefang there is a secret place full of crystal lizards...go there with the miracle "GOD's wrath" and run to the bottom of the pit and cast it....instant ores and lots of them too		2010-06-23 07:00:00

Author:
Shadowcrazy
Posts: 3365

My character is absolutely terrible at dext, she cant fire a ow to save her life, but she has 400 MP so I'm safe

I'm also raising my luck stat to strengthen up a weapon named the blueblood sword, If I enchant it that weapon now has 547 attack power.

Also I'm soul level 152 BTW.		2010-06-23 10:12:00

Author:
robotiod
Posts: 2662

blueblood is the only sword i use atm

never had any reason to use anything else....even the northern regalia was a waste of time to make since it just gathers dust with stockpile thomas		2010-06-23 16:42:00

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Shadowcrazy
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I carry northern regalia just in case but it isn't equipped.2010-06-23 16:49:00

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robotiod
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its really not that great of a blade to be honest...blueblood is best and its prolly the only melee you'll ever need...unless you wanna have fun with other crap (like dozer axe)

so yeah maybe you should leave it with thomas...since you could use the weight for more ores and spices		2010-06-24 01:29:00

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Shadowcrazy
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I might just do that, its not that heavy a sword, But I did dump 99 crescent moon grass with Thomas so why not that sword as well.2010-06-24 01:34:00

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robotiod
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yeah, plus more room for more crap 2010-06-24 01:50:00

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Shadowcrazy
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Haven't played the game in a while, but when I did I played a hybrid warrior/caster style character so my weapon of choice was the Crescent Kilij+5, for the magic stat damage modifier and MP Regen, that and I like the swordstyle used by the Middle-Eastern swords. Loved the Crescent Falchion when I first found it in the Shrine of Storms but the kilij class of swords is even stronger then falchions so I upgraded to that and it worked out great that I never really bothered much with the demon soul-forged weapons even when I got all of them.2010-06-24 02:59:00

Author:
Dapiek Absaroka
Posts: 512

I started to play it again, my character is lvl 175 and uses a +10 hardstoned Halberd, simple but effective.

Don't dare doubt the power!		2010-06-24 13:47:00

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BlackToof
Posts: 172

Crescent Kilij+5, for the magic stat damage modifier and MP
That is the weapon I used for my magic character as well. Can kill almost everything without needing more than a few hits, but will also die if I forget to dodge once.		2010-06-24 15:06:00

Author:
Syroc
Posts: 3193

Well I just got this game in the mail last night and played it a little bit... it's really unusual to be honest! Still getting used to it and making my opinion I made a mage class character.

Anyone actually beat that big demon that shows up at the end of the tutorial? He killed me in one hit... I think it was scripted...		2010-07-02 11:11:00

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Foofles
Posts: 2278

Vanguard I have beaten him 4 times in the tutorial, he is easiest with the priest class.2010-07-02 11:21:00

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robotiod
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Vanguard I have beaten him 4 times in the tutorial, he is easiest with the priest class.

Can you ever go back and fight him again?		2010-07-02 11:35:00

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Foofles
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You can't come back, but you will encounter him again. 2010-07-02 13:54:00

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Syroc
Posts: 3193

You can't come back, but you will encounter him again.

I figured it was that kind of deal... I'm still not sure if I like the game but it definitely has potential for me to like it. If that makes any sense ? haha		2010-07-02 16:27:00

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Foofles
Posts: 2278

If you make a new character you will fight him again, I have beet him 11 times overall but only 4 times in the tutorial.2010-07-02 17:07:00

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robotiod
Posts: 2662

Yeah, I made a new one and died again lol I'm still curious what happens if you beat him in the tutorial.. will keep trying!2010-07-02 17:32:00

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Foofles
Posts: 2278

You get to touch the archstone which takes you to the 2-3 arch demon, you can loot a lot of full moon grass and soldiers souls, then you get punched in the face and die.2010-07-02 17:38:00

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robotiod
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Ah I see

I just beat the boss in the first area. He was a pushover! The real challenge for me was beating that armored knight with the spear, he kills my mage in one stab if he goes through my guard so I had to get creative. And I mean REALLY creative. I lured him to some explosive barrels, threw a firebomb, and it threw him off a ledge... then I just spammed fireballs to whittle away what was left.

I must've died 10 times against that one guy...		2010-07-03 03:12:00

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Foofles
Posts: 2278

Ah I see

I just beat the boss in the first area. He was a pushover! The real challenge for me was beating that armored knight with the spear, he kills my mage in one stab if he goes through my guard so I had to get creative. And I mean REALLY creative. I lured him to some explosive barrels, threw a firebomb, and it threw him off a ledge... then I just spammed fireballs to whittle away what was left.

I must've died 10 times against that one guy...

lol for a second i thought you were talkin about the tower knight lol....boy you're not even close to ready for this archstone

my advice do archstone 2....easiest one IMO....and if you beat the tutorial boss and saw the spoiler that robotoid mentioned..you get revenge (you'll see what i mean )		2010-07-03 04:51:00

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Shadowcrazy
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How do you kill the tutorial boss? ive tried charging passed him but he advances and completely demolishes everything infront of him D:

I did a "fun" little dance in boletarian palace (first section), basically you get all the rings and clear the place out, when Ostrava gets confronted by the first blue eye knight hes get injured pretty bad, then you can get his health down abit before he starts attacking, then it gets tricky, even though your supposed to save your firebombs i couldn't resist just tossing one at him while hes rolling around thinking hes ninja (dead) so i get the key and basically for the next 5 mins backstab and run the red eye knight XD then for about an hour i backstab and run Old King Doran (at 1/4 he lets you have demonbramt, at 1/2 he starts attacking you again) once hes dead you noiw have demonbramt old king dorans armor and haven't even touched the phalanx worth it? eh yea

EDIT: btw i got this off the english Demon's Souls wiki, its a build called Demon mage and basically afterward you free sage freke and get soulray. Best class to start with is actually thief, for its powered back stabs XD		2010-07-03 05:41:00

Author:
Littlebigdude805
Posts: 1924

To kill vanguard when you charge him at the start go to his right arm, Yes the arm that weilds the axe, when he swings he will miss you, then its easy to stay behind him whittling down his health.2010-07-03 08:16:00

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robotiod
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lol for a second i thought you were talkin about the tower knight lol....boy you're not even close to ready for this archstone

my advice do archstone 2....easiest one IMO....and if you beat the tutorial boss and saw the spoiler that robotoid mentioned..you get revenge (you'll see what i mean )

Will try the different arch stones tonight since I unlocked them.

I went back to 1-1 and fought that knight with the spear again and beat him in 5 seconds by swinging around to his back a couple of times nad shooting fireballs, as per my initial strategy. Go figure. lol So I'm starting to get better at the game.		2010-07-03 12:18:00

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Foofles
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It does happen, at first when you play through the heavily armored enemies are the worst, but eventually you will be destroying everything with ease.2010-07-03 13:02:00

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robotiod
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Yeah, and that guy drops some 2000 souls per kill so that's always good for my level. 2010-07-03 14:11:00

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Foofles
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Yeah, and that guy drops some 2000 souls per kill so that's always good for my level.

trust me, when you get to my level....that amount of souls is so insignificant its crazy lol

but yeah tell me when you kill the maiden astrea....until then...make sure to level up your luck...that way you can be a blueblood knight like myself (best sword if your luck stat is high)		2010-07-04 02:06:00

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Shadowcrazy
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Interesting, noted. I figure that the soul counts will get pretty high when you get high level.

Tried the 2nd archstone today, so far at soul level 30.		2010-07-04 05:09:00

Author:
Foofles
Posts: 2278

I love being at a low level, you don't have to worry about carrying hundreds of thousands of souls with you.2010-07-04 09:19:00

Author:
robotiod
Posts: 2662

I love being at a low level, you don't have to worry about carrying hundreds of thousands of souls with you.

lol i dont...especially with invaders invading my home and trying to destroy me so they can live in their world...black phantoms are truly heartless creatures		2010-07-04 22:09:00

Author:
Shadowcrazy
Posts: 3365

I just got this game and have spent about five hours after defeating Phalanx just running around not really sure what to do. But this game seems like it's going to be good when I figure out what to do.2010-07-04 22:30:00

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resistance1
Posts: 812

I just got this game and have spent about five hours after defeating Phalanx just running around not really sure what to do. But this game seems like it's going to be good when I figure out what to do.

i'll say it like this for you in a nutshell....

only hardcore gamers will appreciate the game for what it is...if you're used to winning a lot and succeeding and get angry easily when you lose...this game will frustrate you to no end

but it's a great game that rewards your hard work and determination

this game in my opinion is above the RPG genre and deserves one of its own (i call suspense survival)

but yeah this game is brilliant...and of course ATLUS had to make it lol so you know it's good

a shame NG+ is getting too hardcore for me....maybe ill pick it up one day and attempt to finish it....who knows		2010-07-04 23:36:00

Author:
Shadowcrazy
Posts: 3365

I can usually put up with high difficulty, unless it's the ridiculous kind (The one time that springs to mind is when you're doing the licence tests on Gran Turismo 4 and you have to do the Nurburgring perfectly in under 10 mins - I remember wasting hours on that, and also breaking a few controllers), but the Demon's Souls kind I can usually put up with. The main issue I'm having is that I didn't know where to go, but I had a look on the wiki and worked it out, so it's all good. :32010-07-04 23:45:00

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resistance1
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lol i'll say this....NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO, WHAT YOU SAY, YOU...WILL...DIE! and a lot lol2010-07-05 01:05:00

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Shadowcrazy
Posts: 3365

You know, the first hour or so I played the game I hated it. I cursed nonstop, kept thinking its annoying and regretted my purchase. But now that it tempered me against it, I can't put it down... it got really addictive...

so far I'm really loving my mage		2010-07-05 05:28:00

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Foofles
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lol like i said it's not for the non-hardcore gamers...it will annoy you to no end...especially some places in the game which is why im glad ive got the skill to traverse the place 2010-07-05 06:49:00

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Shadowcrazy
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I wouldn't consider myself hardcore and I still love it. 2010-07-05 08:46:00

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Syroc
Posts: 3193

a shame NG+ is getting too hardcore for me....maybe ill pick it up one day and attempt to finish it....who knows


New game+ too difficult, on my NG+++++ my mage dies in one hit, its not easy in any way shape or form.

In al fairness though I have never found the game overly difficult. Once you know the patterns for the bosses on the early playthroughs its not too difficult to beat every boss very quickly. The one thing I did notice is that Old king allant changes us his pattern on NG++++ so it becomes difficult to read him.

Also black phantoming was fun one time, I was in 1-4 and I just wanted to kill someone, so I went to the nexus and killed myself and then went back into 1-4. I invaded and He wasn't anywhere close. I could hear the dragon breathing so I thought I was going to be sent back to my own world because he had entered the demon area.

I got to the lift ad I thought I must of passed him, so to annoy him I used the lift. At the top I was able to enter the boss area were he was fighting allant and I was shocked. So me and allant teamed up to beat him and I killed him with a back stab.

I sent him a PSN message saying "Sorry it glitched" and he replied saying "how". He seriously thought the game would be that harsh on him.

I believe it happened similar to how you get 2 black phantoms, I invaded just as he entered the boss area so I was ale to stay in his world without being booted 		2010-07-05 10:44:00

Author:
robotiod
Posts: 2662

You know, the first hour or so I played the game I hated it. I cursed nonstop, kept thinking its annoying and regretted my purchase. But now that it tempered me against it, I can't put it down... it got really addictive...

so far I'm really loving my mage

I think thats the way it goes with this game, I managed to get through the first hour of game play alright but one of my friends couldn't stand it at all.

It's such a shame because he's a total die hard rpg gamer, he's completed neverwinter nights for god sake, and thats ridiculous!		2010-07-05 12:07:00

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Asbestos101
Posts: 1114

I just typically hate doing the same thing over and over in video games, but I guess it served a purpose here. Now that I have a feel for the tactics the game's a lot more intuitive, and I started a couple new characters just to see how the other classes feel in the beginning and I was dominating from the get go. It's all good once you understand the moves and how to use them. There really are few cheap deaths from what I can tell, it's all skill.2010-07-05 13:12:00

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Foofles
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I've managed to complete 1-1, 1-2 and 2-1, but I keep getting annihilated by the Giant Stingrays of Death in 4-1. And the 'Inhuman guards' in 3-1 annoyed me. @: I must have lost well over 50000 souls on them stingrays though. Still, I must persevere. 2010-07-05 19:32:00

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resistance1
Posts: 812

I've managed to complete 1-1, 1-2 and 2-1, but I keep getting annihilated by the Giant Stingrays of Death in 4-1. And the 'Inhuman guards' in 3-1 annoyed me. @: I must have lost well over 50000 souls on them stingrays though. Still, I must persevere.

P.s thiefs ring 		2010-07-05 23:49:00

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robotiod
Posts: 2662

****, I should have figured that out before now... It was gathering dust with Stockpile Thomas. Thanks.
^ I can't believe that's censored. @:		2010-07-05 23:55:00

Author:
resistance1
Posts: 812

I'm tackling 2-1 tonight, hopefully I can get up to and beat the boss.. I'm kind of scared to get my body back though, at this point people can invade my game and kill me right? exciting

Edit - Beat the spider boss in my first try, he was a pushover 		2010-07-06 02:22:00

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Foofles
Posts: 2278

I'm tackling 2-1 tonight, hopefully I can get up to and beat the boss.. I'm kind of scared to get my body back though, at this point people can invade my game and kill me right? exciting

Edit - Beat the spider boss in my first try, he was a pushover

2nd archstone is the easiest IMO

and if you're still getting killed by the 2-2 boss i have a great strategy that GUARANTEES success, only requires poison cloud and thief's ring

but yeah my fav is the 4th archstone 		2010-07-06 05:21:00

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Shadowcrazy
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Well after 2-1 I moved on to 3-1 which is a creepy setting for sure. Beat the 3-1 boss, wasn't too hard either, I also saved the sage and got a few spell goodies.

My biggest enemy in 3-1 was probably the floor, it's the only thing that killed me lol I was running back to drop off some items at the nexus and took a wrong turn.		2010-07-06 05:38:00

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Foofles
Posts: 2278

I have been reading all of your posts on here guys and ****, I am going to have to start playing Demon's Souls again!!! I just have too many games and not enough hours in the day...2010-07-06 06:32:00

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Spider-Jew
Posts: 1090

I hate the 2nd archstone, I just don't like the second demon, i spend the entire battle rolling trying to stay away while I soul arrow him.
He's not to difficult with a melee class, but with a mage he is annoying, knowing that his strongest move is 1 hit 1 kill and the other moves will take most of your life.		2010-07-06 09:46:00

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robotiod
Posts: 2662

Hmmm... I put all my points into int and magic, which may or may not be a good plan, but I do great damage. I only took my vitality to 10 though, so if a bigger enemy or boss hits me, they always nearly kill me... I just am careful to never get hit or cornered by smaller guys. I'll probably have to invest some more points in vitality and endurance, I haven't really put any points into strength or dexterity though since I'm not sure what's better for the mage. I do use melee, I upgraded the initial sword to like +7 so it does a decent amount of damage.

Can I learn miracles on my mage character? Would I have to say raise the faith to 10+ or something like that?		2010-07-06 14:45:00

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Foofles
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You'd have to raise your faith level.

What kind of sword do you have? I suggest upgrading it to crescent, if you haven't, as that adds magic damage to it. The higher your magic level is the more damage you can cause with it. My royal does 210 damage with his crescent kiliji +1. ^.^		2010-07-06 14:51:00

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Syroc
Posts: 3193

I've been using the short sword you get when you start the game, I've been saving the resources for things like dragon and crescent until I figure out a sword that's worth it. I have tons and tons of hardstone and what not so it would be easy to upgrade whatever weapon I get.

My weapon collection so far: Short Sword + 7, Secret Dagger, Baby's Nail, Long Sword, Kris Blade,Scimitar, Mercury Rapier + 1, Estoc, Geri's Stiletto, Crushing Battle Axe + 1, Great Club, Claws, ******* Sword, Winged Spear + 1

I'm using a silver catalyst from 3-1. Are any of those worth upgrading and using over my short sword? I haven't actually went to _-2 and beyond of any archstone yet, I've just been looking at the different areas...		2010-07-06 15:09:00

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Foofles
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Hm, I'd get the Kilij or Uchigatana from 4-1. The Kilij needs less dexterity and strength. You don't have to venture to far into 4-1 to discover those if I remember correctly.2010-07-06 15:16:00

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Syroc
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If you care about strength over the bonus MP I would advise using the wooden catalyst, it is a fair bit stronger, and the little bonus from the silver catalyst is hardly worth it if you are going to improve your intelligence more.2010-07-06 15:37:00

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robotiod
Posts: 2662

Ah ok, thanks for the tips Tonight I'll look at 4-1, and I'll be using the wooden catalyst then2010-07-06 15:44:00

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Foofles
Posts: 2278

Oh man... I just fought the 4-1 boss and nearly killed him but then he one hitted me I was thinking he was such a pushover until then too lol ... and then I got killed by one of the skeleton guys since I mistakenly thought it was another player's soul, and lost all my souls! poo!2010-07-07 04:20:00

Author:
Foofles
Posts: 2278

Stat-wise, unless you're specifically building a character around using weapons that benefit from a Dexterity stat modifier, I wouldn't recommend investing in it beyond the requirements you need to use equipment you want to use. Since you melee, strength would generally be more useful to a degree.
If you're focusing on magic power, you'll probably want to get a Kilij or Uchigatana like Syroc said and upgrade to their crescent and/or moon variants sooner or later. Which one is better is mostly a matter of preference; Middle-Eastern swords are a bit faster with useful advancing attacks while katana are a bit stronger with a wider arc of attack. You may also want to hang onto that Winged Spear and turn it into a Moon Winged Spear which is also pretty powerful for a mage and useful in situations where the swords aren't.
You may also want to hang onto the Kris Blade and Geri's Stiletto, if only for their unique traits rather then their low attack power. But because you need rare colorless demon souls to upgrade them they're more of a long term investment compared to more conventional weapons. And like robotiod said stick with the wooden catalyst; the real upgrade you want for casting is the Talisman of Beasts.		2010-07-07 04:22:00

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Dapiek Absaroka
Posts: 512

Ahh, thanks for the long and informative post And to sound really noobish.. how do I tell how high a stat needs to be to wield a weapon?

ETA - Yay, I beat the 4-1 boss. In such a cheap way

I just camped the battle entrance, apparently his tongue can't hit you there, and just poked out and spammed magic, ran back, beat him without a single hit		2010-07-07 04:37:00

Author:
Foofles
Posts: 2278

I tried to rush mephistopheles last night because I want to kill ostrava for her reward.
Ran 1-2 again, then ran 3-1 in less than 10 minutes, started 3-2 until you bump into the cage guy. I back stabbed him and sent him on a fall to his death, I killed saige freke and the other dude .
But then I had to kill biorr of the twin fangs, well I haven't opened 1-3 on this playthrough. I wish I hadn't killed him before taking mephistopheles quests origionally, I still haven't got the talisman of beasts.

I was OK with killing sage freke and his disciple because once I get through either 3 or 4 the first thing I'm doing is saving yuria.		2010-07-07 05:53:00

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robotiod
Posts: 2662

I just ran into my first PVP black phantom ... I tried using soul ray on him and almost killed him but he kept dodging, I should've just spammed fire spray probably. He got me, but was interesting nonetheless

I just beat all the _ - 1 phases and 1-2, now I'm doing 2-2 and had a great moment with one of those exploding lizards near the 2 crystal ones.. I thought.. ****, he's gonna explode isn't he? Boom, dead. lol		2010-07-08 01:42:00

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Foofles
Posts: 2278

I just ran into my first PVP black phantom ... I tried using soul ray on him and almost killed him but he kept dodging, I should've just spammed fire spray probably. He got me, but was interesting nonetheless

I just beat all the _ - 1 phases and 1-2, now I'm doing 2-2 and had a great moment with one of those exploding lizards near the 2 crystal ones.. I thought.. ****, he's gonna explode isn't he? Boom, dead. lol

FARMING ORES TIP!!! - IN 2-2 INSTEAD OF TAKING THE RIGHT WHERE THE MINERS ARE TAKE THE LEFT AND RUN AS FAST AS YOU CAN (TO AVOID THE EXPLODING CARTS) KILL THE MINISTER AND USE THE LEVER WITH THE HUGE ELEVATOR TYPE THING AND WAIT UNTIL YOU GET TO THE BOTTOM, IF THIS IS YOUR FIRST TIME THERE WILL BE 2 GAME EMBEDDED BP (GAME EMBEDDED MEANING THEY'RE IN THE GAME EVEN IF OFFLINE) AND WHEN YOU KILL THEM YOU CAN ENTER THE TUNNEL THEY CAME FROM....THAT TUNNEL ENDS UP HAVING A SH*T LOAD OF CRYSTAL LIZARDS THAT HAVE PLENTY OF ORE.

(BE SURE TO HAVE GOD'S WRATH MIRACLE - TAKES 2 SLOTS OF MEMORY FROM MIRACLE SIDE - AND A LOT OF ITEM BURDEN FREED UP)

oh btw you hear the different nexus music yet? 		2010-07-08 02:37:00

Author:
Shadowcrazy
Posts: 3365

HAHAHAHA ... I thought I'd try my hand at being a black phantom. I managed to invade someone's game in the tower prison, but didn't take the turn I thought I did and ended up falling to my death .. . .. I think I lost a magic level. Figures...

Tried again and got a guy a poor barbarian too, he was totally naked... I cast poison cloud on him and hit him with a soul arrow, he tried running away but died from the poison and a finishing soul ray		2010-07-08 02:39:00

Author:
Foofles
Posts: 2278

nah you dont lose soul/magic levels in this game (unless someone uses the spell soulsucker on you) so you're good to go man2010-07-08 02:47:00

Author:
Shadowcrazy
Posts: 3365

Oh you gotta be kidding me!
I was just reseearching stuff about this gme seeing if i would get it or not, and whet's the first thread i see in the "what's new" section?
This!

The game does sem pretty good, i might get it (or have to more like it) within the week, but it has a few contenders too.
So can anyone convince me of why i should buy this and not others within the week? 		2010-07-08 03:01:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707

And to sound really noobish.. how do I tell how high a stat needs to be to wield a weapon?


When looking at a weapon's attributes, one of the lower parameters is "Stats Needed," and to the left are four symbols paired with their own numbers which are the amount of whatever stat you need to effectively use the equipment. Because these symbols aren't really intuitively linked to what they represent, I'll just tell you they are strength, dexterity, magic and faith from left to right (I believe that's the order but not 100% sure, check the manual). Truthfully, you don't really need to meet stat reguirements to use whatever weapon, but not meeting those requirements greatly reduces how effective it is (I think I recall that in some cases, you'd need to use both hands to compensate).


So can anyone convince me of why i should buy this and not others within the week?

Well, I can't speak for everyone but for me Demon's Souls provides the experience of what results from Japanese game designers try to make a Western-style action/rpg game that also cater to more hardcore gamers dissatisfied with the lack of difficulty found in the current trend of casual videogames.
You won't find a deep story or very compelling characters, but what you will find is a game that provides plenty of customization options and plenty of challenging gameplay. Level grinding, the go-to solution of many JRPGs is not a particularly efficient strategy in overcoming obstacles, rather you really have to think "if I'm in the midst of a demonic invasion and nearly everything is trying to kill me, how can I best avoid danger and defeat enemies?" Even the weakest enemies can inflict a fatal blow if you get careless (somewhat like in real life) and bosses are generally very deadly that you have to be very methodical in how you go about taking them down. You'll probably lose your temper more then once playing it, but there's genuine satisfaction found in conquering those hurdles if you decide to tough it out.		2010-07-08 03:56:00

Author:
Dapiek Absaroka
Posts: 512

You won't find a deep story or very compelling characters

i disagree with this 100%

there is a deep story here...you just need to pay attention to it...like Majora's Mask (very depressing story...but not many people except hardcore fans like myself read in between the lines and find this out) and stockpile thomas was a VERY DEEP character....especially if you give him a certain item you carry with you....same with the BluePhantom you meet when you begin the game and when you end the game

just thought i'd throw that in there to keep this game's story straight


also the game is the best RPG at the moment in my opinion....certainly deserves a special genre (like suspense survival) because this game makes you make tactical decisions and finding out how you'd fair in this world if it were in REAL LIFE (doubtful but that's how i feel playing it)		2010-07-08 04:04:00

Author:
Shadowcrazy
Posts: 3365

The story isn't thrown in your face like most other RPG titles. It is more subtle and it is sometimes overlooked by people. But it is an interesting story and the two endings you can get really reflect the rest of the game. They wont er affected by what happened at the beginning of the gae, or if you killed Jim at the *** bar (That's not in the game BTW ) But the ending reflects what you do in the dying moments, as it would be if you were in this situation in real life.2010-07-08 07:55:00

Author:
robotiod
Posts: 2662

When looking at a weapon's attributes, one of the lower parameters is "Stats Needed," and to the left are four symbols paired with their own numbers which are the amount of whatever stat you need to effectively use the equipment. Because these symbols aren't really intuitively linked to what they represent, I'll just tell you they are strength, dexterity, magic and faith from left to right (I believe that's the order but not 100% sure, check the manual). Truthfully, you don't really need to meet stat reguirements to use whatever weapon, but not meeting those requirements greatly reduces how effective it is (I think I recall that in some cases, you'd need to use both hands to compensate).



Well, I can't speak for everyone but for me Demon's Souls provides the experience of what results from Japanese game designers try to make a Western-style action/rpg game that also cater to more hardcore gamers dissatisfied with the lack of difficulty found in the current trend of casual videogames.
You won't find a deep story or very compelling characters, but what you will find is a game that provides plenty of customization options and plenty of challenging gameplay. Level grinding, the go-to solution of many JRPGs is not a particularly efficient strategy in overcoming obstacles, rather you really have to think "if I'm in the midst of a demonic invasion and nearly everything is trying to kill me, how can I best avoid danger and defeat enemies?" Even the weakest enemies can inflict a fatal blow if you get careless (somewhat like in real life) and bosses are generally very deadly that you have to be very methodical in how you go about taking them down. You'll probably lose your temper more then once playing it, but there's genuine satisfaction found in conquering those hurdles if you decide to tough it out.

Thx, but the problem is that's what pretty much what every review says and what its mostly known (highly difficult, ok story, ect.) wha i want to know is what's IN the game that would make a difference, you know?

Like what can i do in the game and stuff and what's the features that distinguish it from others and stuff. 		2010-07-08 08:48:00

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Silverleon
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Thx, but the problem is that's what pretty much what every review says and what its mostly known (highly difficult, ok story, ect.) wha i want to know is what's IN the game that would make a difference, you know?

Like what can i do in the game and stuff and what's the features that distinguish it from others and stuff.

The game is a game on its own, now I would say this, if no other games had ever been invented this probably would just be a mediocre title.
But it isn't the only game, The levelling system is unique, forcing you to be tight with yourself on how you level up.
The multiplayer, which is something you don't usually see in hardcore RPG titles like this, is intriguing. The lack of voice chat or text chat in game makes them a mannequin and never takes away from the surreal atmosphere of the game.

The combat is like poker, easy to learn difficult to master, it forces you to be careful about every step, It makes it rather astonishing when you face a duel sworded character, you will wonder why someone would decide to lose his defence just for more attack. But then if you experiment with the weapon combinations you will find a combo that is balanced and suits your particular play style.

There aren't many side quests, but what is there will keep you interested and will get you rarer items which will make you feel like you have really accomplished something afterwords.

There isn't much more I can say that wont be repeating every review out there, so all I will do is show you a video of one of the earliest (But most fun) Demon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awTag3BWc80

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awTag3BWc80

On a side note, I continued with my no leveling character yesterday and I beat tower knight.		2010-07-08 09:17:00

Author:
robotiod
Posts: 2662

It's has atmosphere, fights are not just button mashing, and it the weapons just feel right and the different weapons do make a difference unlike they do in most games where they are pretty weightless and the difference between a long sword and a katana is negligible. It's also immensely satisfying. 2010-07-08 09:20:00

Author:
Syroc
Posts: 3193

Hmm.. ya i think i'll buy it indeed.
So just one more quick question, how's the multyplayer mode?
Like do you just go around killing mobs with others to level up and fight others online, like an open online world, or does the group of players have their own field per-say?		2010-07-08 09:42:00

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Silverleon
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Hmm.. ya i think i'll buy it indeed.
So just one more quick question, how's the multyplayer mode?
Like do you just go around killing mobs with others to level up and fight others online, like an open online world, or does the group of players have their own field per-say?

Everybody has their own world, Co op in your own world can only be done if you haven't completed that area.
you can send yourself to other peoples worlds by placing the blue stone when you are in soul mode (Dead)
You can co op with two extra people, so a party of 3. However their is known glitches that can make a party of 4.
In co op mode the premise is the same as the regular game, except the co op players (blue phantoms) will regain the body if the demon is killed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_MOuT-pZdg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_MOuT-pZdg

There are two PVP modes, Black phantom, where you invade someones world with the intent of killing them to regain your body.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOj_R_tBcSI&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOj_R_tBcSI&feature=related

and proper PVP using the red eye stone, with the loser losing a soul level it is a dangerous thing to try, but rewarding if you win.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtS7Y9sU4ak

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtS7Y9sU4ak		2010-07-08 09:56:00

Author:
robotiod
Posts: 2662

I have this game, its AMAZING! i think you should buy it I fought a demon ''Tower Knight'' and i died 1 time, you can get frustrated, but its REALLY rewarding!!2010-07-08 15:51:00

Author:
Jonaolst
Posts: 935

The game definitely has a unique feel to it. One thing I like is that the controls are actually really intuitive, there's so much involved but it all makes sense and is easy to grasp but is hard to master.

There are very few "cheap deaths" in the game, every enemy and situation has a strategy to counter it... you just have to be very cautious with your environment, it tends to be very dark and you never know what's around the corner. Also the idea of fighting other players for your body is kind of interesting. I just wish it was a little more straightforward to get a party going.

The story is there enough to be interesting and deep, but isn't very verbose. It has the old school adventure game kind of vibe to it... think Chakan the forever man. In fact it REALLY reminds me of Chakan. I love that game.		2010-07-08 16:06:00

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Foofles
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lol I feel like a total demon's souls expert/nerd for saying the following sentence:

"you guys forgot to mention about soul tendency....THE MOST IMPORTANT part of the game"

which is the actions you take as yourself define how the people in the game react to you (character tendency) and if it's at the highest or lowest something big happens

and actions you take in the world you are currently playing in BODY FORM (world tendency) can open up areas or close them tight and hide them from the rest of the game

needless to say pure white world tendency and pure black can unlock areas with rare equipment or weapons you couldn't get anywhere else (or maybe you could but needed to kill someone difficult to do so)		2010-07-08 16:36:00

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Shadowcrazy
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Oh what a poopie head.. I just invaded another's game as a black phantom and killed him, but then it said "Session ended - ____ left" and I didn't get my body back 2010-07-08 18:03:00

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Foofles
Posts: 2278

lol I feel like a total demon's souls expert/nerd for saying the following sentence:

"you guys forgot to mention about soul tendency....THE MOST IMPORTANT part of the game"

which is the actions you take as yourself define how the people in the game react to you (character tendency) and if it's at the highest or lowest something big happens

and actions you take in the world you are currently playing in BODY FORM (world tendency) can open up areas or close them tight and hide them from the rest of the game

needless to say pure white world tendency and pure black can unlock areas with rare equipment or weapons you couldn't get anywhere else (or maybe you could but needed to kill someone difficult to do so)

I was going to talk about tendancy but I didn't want to over simplify it 		2010-07-08 22:37:00

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robotiod
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lol I feel like a total demon's souls expert/nerd for saying the following sentence:

"you guys forgot to mention about soul tendency....THE MOST IMPORTANT part of the game"

which is the actions you take as yourself define how the people in the game react to you (character tendency) and if it's at the highest or lowest something big happens

and actions you take in the world you are currently playing in BODY FORM (world tendency) can open up areas or close them tight and hide them from the rest of the game

needless to say pure white world tendency and pure black can unlock areas with rare equipment or weapons you couldn't get anywhere else (or maybe you could but needed to kill someone difficult to do so)
Eh? *Tilts head*

Srry, maybe its because i just woke up or something, but i don't quite grasp what you're saying here.


I was going to talk about tendancy but I didn't want to over simplify it

Please do, your explanations have worked very well so far. 		2010-07-09 00:07:00

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Silverleon
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Oh what a poopie head.. I just invaded another's game as a black phantom and killed him, but then it said "Session ended - ____ left" and I didn't get my body back

i'm sorry friend....i guess some warriors turn out to be cowards (rage quitters) don't fret friend....maybe you'll do better as a blue phantom and help others for the greater good...plus white tendency is great for you		2010-07-09 00:12:00

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Shadowcrazy
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Well tendancy can simply range between pure white and pure black.
White is good for you, enemies will be weaker, and when in soul mode (Dead) you will lose less of your life.

At black enemies will be tougher, but you will be rewarded with more souls and rarer item drops.
When in souls mode you will lose a higher percentage of your health.

There are two different types of tendancies, character and world. Character will affect you know matter where you are, but it will not change the maps you fight in.
World tendancy will only be affected when you are in that area, so each of the 5 areas have a different tendancy.
Depending on the tendancy white or black, the world will change. New characters, tougher enemies and secret areas will begin to open up.

Simply put it, everything you do is risk and reward, and you will be messing around between good and evil if you want to experience everything in the game.		2010-07-09 00:28:00

Author:
robotiod
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Well tendancy can simply range between pure white and pure black.
White is good for you, enemies will be weaker, and when in soul mode (Dead) you will lose less of your life.

At black enemies will be tougher, but you will be rewarded with more souls and rarer item drops.
When in souls mode you will lose a higher percentage of your health.

There are two different types of tendancies, character and world. Character will affect you know matter where you are, but it will not change the maps you fight in.
World tendancy will only be affected when you are in that area, so each of the 5 areas have a different tendancy.
Depending on the tendancy white or black, the world will change. New characters, tougher enemies and secret areas will begin to open up.

Simply put it, everything you do is risk and reward, and you will be messing around between good and evil if you want to experience everything in the game.

THIS

...also character tendency affects what happens in the NEXUS...such as getting a certain item or meeting a certain person		2010-07-09 00:34:00

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Shadowcrazy
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i disagree with this 100%

there is a deep story here...you just need to pay attention to it...like Majora's Mask (very depressing story...but not many people except hardcore fans like myself read in between the lines and find this out) and stockpile thomas was a VERY DEEP character....especially if you give him a certain item you carry with you....same with the BluePhantom you meet when you begin the game and when you end the game


Subtle does not equate deep. Yes, you do need to pay attention (not too much at all though) to find out what story lies behind several of the characters but more often then not those stories can be summed up in a sentence. Stockpile Thomas suffered a horrible tragedy, Sage Freke lusts for knowledge of demon souls and slowly becomes corrupted by that desire, Mephistopholes wants to eliminate all who use the soul arts, and so on. Nearly all the characters are easily understood at a surface glance but little is revealed beyond the surface. We don't know what sort of life Stockpile Thomas had before the events of the game or if he finds a new one after it, we don't know why Freke jumps off the slippery slope other then having to simply explain it as "power corrupts," and we don't ever find out why Mephistopholes wants the soul arts banished. We can guess what is beneath the surface, and in the likely event that the simplest explainations with the least amount of complications or contradictions are the correct ones, then we can't really call those characters deep at all can we? Nevermind the fact that the character you play has literally no personality beyond what you provide him/her gameplay wise.

That isn't to say that the game suffers from having a relatively straightforward story (you come to Boletaria, kick demon ***, save the world) and I have to emphasize the story is subtle which is not a bad thing. There are no unbelievably complex schemes hatched by villains, no hackneyed romance subplot (but not without romance of a sort), no horrifically tragic past of the hero revealed, and no cruel twist at the end. And given a genre that has basically been drowning in those things since the nineties to the point of being maudlin that's probably a good thing. Demon's Souls' story is not deep, but it isn't pretentious either, which is something people (especially videogame makers) tend to confuse.

As for world tendency and multiplayer, there just came a point where I just stopped playing online. I'd already beaten the game a few times and found most everything I wanted (so player advice and assistance was superfluous); additionally, playing online made managing world tendency generally impossible (due to all actions of all online players factoring in). I don't really pay an incredible amount of attention to world tendency but I usually plan to cycle through both pure white and black tenencies for nearly all places per playthrough and go about it from the start of the game to near the end, so obviously I'm not going to spend time online for that.		2010-07-09 03:56:00

Author:
Dapiek Absaroka
Posts: 512

THIS

...also character tendency affects what happens in the NEXUS...such as getting a certain item or meeting a certain person

NEXUS?
Please remember i haven't bought the game yet m8, so i'm nmot really sure what most things are. 		2010-07-09 05:06:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707

The Nexus is your little HUB of sort, there you can access a "bank" teachers and other people you save, most importantly the Maiden in Black, she converts your collected souls into stats of your choosing.2010-07-09 05:13:00

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Littlebigdude805
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The Nexus is your little HUB of sort, there you can access a "bank" teachers and other people you save, most importantly the Maiden in Black, she converts your collected souls into stats of your choosing.

Ah see? Now it makes sense!
Before i had no idea what he was talking about. ;p

Thx dude!		2010-07-09 05:31:00

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Silverleon
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i'm sorry friend....i guess some warriors turn out to be cowards (rage quitters) don't fret friend....maybe you'll do better as a blue phantom and help others for the greater good...plus white tendency is great for you

I actually entered another world as a black phantom but failed the assassination attempt (I didn't realize the dragon could kill you by touching you, I thought only the breath killed you)... but then I offered to join his game as a blue phantom and it turned out really well 		2010-07-09 07:27:00

Author:
Foofles
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The nexus links the lands of boletaria. In the words of the maiden in black.

"The monumental awaits the above, the monumental will explain the nexus to thee"

What I'm saying is you will understand when you buy the game. But its basically just home base, a sanctuary against the demons.		2010-07-09 10:33:00

Author:
robotiod
Posts: 2662

Why is my character so weak? All of a sudden I seem to be doing a lot less damage even though my magic level and equipment are the same... I just seem to be getting weaker and weaker. I was lvl 42 magic and did 92 damage or so with fire spray against the stingrays in 4-1 , then I lost a couple levels as a black phantom in archstone 1.. now I'm lvl 44 magic and as I'm playing in the same grinding session I've been doing 80 ... 70.. and now it takes 2 hits to kill them. Also my soul ray used to do like 250-300 damage now it does < 200 ... what gives?

All were in soul form, wooden catalyst, ring of magical sharpness, and judging against the same enemies... what else can I do to increase my magic damage? I feel pathetically weak for some reason		2010-07-09 16:57:00

Author:
Foofles
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being a black phantom gives you black tendancy, not very good for leveling as it makes enemies hard (harder) to kill i suggest bringing in some blue phantoms and kill a demon or two

Tonight im starting a blue blood swordsman build with that starting bit i told you about were i got demonbramt and king dorans armor before killing phalanx ive looted Shrine of Storms (4-1?) completely for kiliji Crescent Falchion+1, compound-long-bow, adjudicator-s-shield and regenerator-s-ring and ores and a good amount of souls and now must power threw to astrea >_< if anyone wants to help say so otherwise theres still helpful strangers XD

EDIT: anyone ever try Kiliji in left hand and falchion in right? XD so badass, and L2 does this crazy sword flair o_O not sure if its an attach or parry		2010-07-09 17:39:00

Author:
Littlebigdude805
Posts: 1924

Hmmm tendency, yeah I gotta keep that in mind.

Grr... you know, one thing is really ******* me off in this game. I press Circle to run but sometimes he does the little backstep thing, a bunch of times it made me back off of a cliff.		2010-07-09 20:58:00

Author:
Foofles
Posts: 2278

I managed about 3 levels in one day yesterday, the game seems to get a lot easier after 1-1. I did 5-1 first time, didn't lose a single life, even in the boss fight. It better get harder soon.2010-07-09 21:14:00

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resistance1
Posts: 812

Pure Black Character Tendency ftw... I just joined someone's game as a bluephantom and immediately got backstabbed by a black phantom. So then I invaded someone's game and the fool was camping the entrance to backstab me, I casted a few poison clouds on him , then used a bit of fire spray to get him to dance , a couple soul arrows, and finished him with a full barrage of homing arrows Good times, good fight2010-07-09 21:39:00

Author:
Foofles
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ooo...see what some people do with friends is purposefully not kill each other when they invade, then the host summons blue phantoms for the black phantom to kill >_<2010-07-09 22:55:00

Author:
Littlebigdude805
Posts: 1924

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's what happened to me since I was ganked as soon as I spawned, lost my souls too :/2010-07-09 22:58:00

Author:
Foofles
Posts: 2278

D: i think you shouldn't lose souls as a blue phantom, its not fair to lose so much for trying to help people surprisingly for a game with so much hostility and trickery the people ive met playing it are so nice 2010-07-09 23:05:00

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Littlebigdude805
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Yeah, I met some really nice and *patient* people... like one guy who kept summoning me even though I died to a dragon sweep and then couldn't connect props

Speaking of dragons, how do you kill these things? Ugh. He never shuts his mouth 		2010-07-09 23:58:00

Author:
Foofles
Posts: 2278

...very carefully...there really is no proper way to kill those things, the creators just gave them health to be fair and let you think something up XD2010-07-10 00:01:00

Author:
Littlebigdude805
Posts: 1924

Hehe, I just loaded him with soul arrows for like 10 minutes until he died... x.x2010-07-10 00:23:00

Author:
Foofles
Posts: 2278

...very carefully...there really is no proper way to kill those things, the creators just gave them health to be fair and let you think something up XD

there are proper ways...just like any other monster/demon/creature in this game

ESPECIALLY the blue dragon who is perched up on the castle and doesnt fly around like the red one		2010-07-10 00:27:00

Author:
Shadowcrazy
Posts: 3365

you can't give that dragon's soul to anyone right? Should I just eat it?2010-07-10 01:34:00

Author:
Foofles
Posts: 2278

yea doesn't do anything, small dragon soul = 10,000 souls large dragon soul = 30,0002010-07-10 01:37:00

Author:
Littlebigdude805
Posts: 1924

Need some help with 5-2 and 5-3 going for blueblood2010-07-10 01:51:00

Author:
Littlebigdude805
Posts: 1924

The bosses? I just beat a couple bodies and have been enjoying my body lol but if you need to summon me, I guess I can suicide, if we're killing a demon I get my body back right? sorry it took so long to reply, I've been playing 2010-07-10 02:35:00

Author:
Foofles
Posts: 2278

Speaking of dragons, how do you kill these things? Ugh. He never shuts his mouth

Unfortunately, projectile attacks are just about the only reasonably sane way to kill them. You can kill them via melee but it really isn't recommended. In the dragon's nest in 1-1 the blue dragon just sits there swinging it's tail so you can theoretically run up and hit it, but because it can kill you with just one hit and you'll have to hit it a whole lot while dodging continuously in between attacks this strategy is virtually suicide. You can also strike the red dragon as it glides across the bridge by hitting it just as it descends in the first stretch, but because spacing is crucial and risk of damage is much, much higher then using other tactics it really isn't very worth it unless you feel like you have something to prove.

Just loading up on arrows and/or spells are the way to go; snipe red from the first rampart tower in 1-2 and snipe blue after it mounts itself on the wall above the gate to the king's tower in 1-4 and after you run past the dead man's land to the position under its head. You can speed up the process in killing them by using the Poison/Death Cloud spells as well as equipment like the Kris Blade, Ring of Magical Sharpness, or Clever Rat's Ring.		2010-07-10 03:02:00

Author:
Dapiek Absaroka
Posts: 512

yes, i just plain hate the 5th arch stone, yea everything weak but stuff falls apart and something ALWAYS jumps down behind you XD not to mention poison and junk >_< anyway yea, you get your body back for killing the demon but i need 2 basically my objectives are grab the broken sword in the swamp (gaurded by a crazy black phantom that ambushes you, ill have to follow an odd path along the wall >_<) and get astreas soul and vinlands stuff would be nice2010-07-10 03:06:00

Author:
Littlebigdude805
Posts: 1924

Alright, my PSN is Foofles, I'll leave a soul mark near the beginning of 5-2 right now if you're ready

Send me a PSN Message when you're out of the little cave at the beginning		2010-07-10 03:07:00

Author:
Foofles
Posts: 2278

can i get some advise from a pro? i have dorans armor right now but will soon kill garl, should i swap armor or keep it?2010-07-10 03:17:00

Author:
Littlebigdude805
Posts: 1924

can i get some advise from a pro? i have dorans armor right now but will soon kill garl, should i swap armor or keep it?

PRO here (naw not self centered but i am a good source for strats)

anyways PROTIP: for garl vinland EASIEST STRATEGY requires a BOW, TONS OF ARROWS and HIGH DEX....when you start the boss for garl keep going foward until you see 2-3 goblins (forgot how much) praying or some such, kill them...then take a right hugging the wall so you dont fall until you reach an area with more goblins....KILL THEM....and from that point where those groups of goblins is a PERFECT SNIPERS PERCH to take down MAIDEN ASTREA (killing her is RECOMMENDED) so unload all your arrows on HER AND HER ALONE.....main reason you need high DEX is because she has healing magic and she heals quite some times so this battle will take long...so NEED LOTS AND LOTS OF ARROWS and with high DEX you make good damage....the reason MAIDEN ASTREA is the main target is because once you kill her....GARL becomes overcome with sadness that he pretty much SUICIDES (there's a trick for this so READ ON) anyways that snipers perch GUARANTEES you never take a hit from anyone or anything (unless you ignored the goblins) but yeah once you kill maiden astrea and it says that you slayed the demon you do the following:

1.after message says you killed her watch for your auto save
2.after auto save finishes LOAD THAT SAVE FILE
3.search for GARL VINLANDS SPAWN POINT
**4.????
5.PROFIT

**once you load the game and go to garl vinlands spawn point you will get his entire armor set (minus the weapon) and you can then collect the soul of maiden astrea and make your sword easy 		2010-07-10 05:36:00

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Shadowcrazy
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ok... already knew all that >_> what i need to know is whats better for a blue blood swordsman build, Garls Dark Silver or Old King Dorans Ancient2010-07-10 05:38:00

Author:
Littlebigdude805
Posts: 1924

ok... already knew all that >_> what i need to know is whats better for a blue blood swordsman build, Garls Dark Silver or Old King Dorans Ancient

well maybe next time you can be more specific instead of giving me a ">_>" for trying to help...........

and for the record the only thing dark silver is good for is magic protection....and old king dorans armor is decent beginners armor with no special effects...only thing good from him is the ring that charges stamina at a greater speed		2010-07-10 05:53:00

Author:
Shadowcrazy
Posts: 3365

Yay for annoying idiots... I jsut got invaded by a BP that did nothign but poke me with that spear that eats your equipment... he wasn't even trying to kill me, just annoy the hell out of me.2010-07-10 06:51:00

Author:
Foofles
Posts: 2278

ok I just want to say.. I'm really getting tired of the dodge and lock on mechanics...

So many times I hit the right stick just to lock on something BEHIND ME... I love in 4-X when I'm trying to target the skeleton humping the ground at lightspeed towards me and I target some stingray that's behind me and usually through a wall. Ugh...

I was playing in 4-2 and died from a fall because when I hit circle to break out of the crowd of enemies the guy decided to jump backwards instead, he always does that and it always gets me killed!

And then what? On my way to get the souls I lost I fought those 2 golden skeletons .. ok, easy enough, so I rush forward... only the auto aim decides to target the stingray behind me and pressing forward means I fly off the cliff, losing all my souls... UGH

/rant 		2010-07-10 07:16:00

Author:
Foofles
Posts: 2278

ok I just want to say.. I'm really getting tired of the dodge and lock on mechanics...

So many times I hit the right stick just to lock on something BEHIND ME... I love in 4-X when I'm trying to target the skeleton humping the ground at lightspeed towards me and I target some stingray that's behind me and usually through a wall. Ugh...

I was playing in 4-2 and died from a fall because when I hit circle to break out of the crowd of enemies the guy decided to jump backwards instead, he always does that and it always gets me killed!

And then what? On my way to get the souls I lost I fought those 2 golden skeletons .. ok, easy enough, so I rush forward... only the auto aim decides to target the stingray behind me and pressing forward means I fly off the cliff, losing all my souls... UGH

/rant

PROTIP: don't rely so much on lock on

that's the only advice i can give you...since yeah things like that can happen...and besides you don't really need lock on that much....except with boss battles or areas with REALLY HIGH POWERED demons		2010-07-10 07:42:00

Author:
Shadowcrazy
Posts: 3365

PROTIP: don't rely so much on lock on

that's the only advice i can give you...since yeah things like that can happen...and besides you don't really need lock on that much....except with boss battles or areas with REALLY HIGH POWERED demons

How am I supposed to use magic without lockon?		2010-07-10 07:48:00

Author:
Foofles
Posts: 2278

How am I supposed to use magic without lockon?

lol unless those demons are the stormflyers....then you don't need lock on for magic either...unless it has homing capabilities		2010-07-10 07:50:00

Author:
Shadowcrazy
Posts: 3365

But how can you aim it? There doesn't seem to be any coherent way to aim magic without lockon. Or am I missing something?2010-07-10 07:53:00

Author:
Foofles
Posts: 2278

there's no reticle for aiming...you just face the way you want your spell to head towards and fire...nothing to it

you should notice by now that auto lock on doesn't make the magic go for that specific white circle....only in the direction of it...so when locking on to a monster all the aim is doing is just keeping your body faced at the demon so when you cast you can hit it...without locking on you need to aim your body to the demon yourself...so auto lock technically does nothing but make you always face your enemy

EDIT: my mistake i should add that the only time magic goes in the direction you're aiming is with flying creatures, so with storm flyers and the dragons and anything else that flies....those are the only times you'll ever need to lock on....other then that for ground units you can just aim your body towards them and cast

EDIT2: also while there is no reticle for aiming without lock on you can sometimes aim your camera and use magic like that...just because there are no cross hairs doesn't mean you can't use the camera as an aiming tool for those flying creatures as well (although auto-lock is recommended for the flying creatures)		2010-07-10 08:02:00

Author:
Shadowcrazy
Posts: 3365

For me it fills in the vertical part of the aiming so there's more to it than just the yaw of the player. Facing the direction is easy enough sure, but all the different spells seem to react differently vertically... it took me many shots to center my aim on each chunk of debris in that one boss fight.

The tossed spells like demon prank are just too weird altogether.		2010-07-10 08:06:00

Author:
Foofles
Posts: 2278

Originally Posted by Shadowcrazy
Originally Posted by Littlebigdude805
ok... already knew all that >_> what i need to know is whats better for a blue blood swordsman build, Garls Dark Silver or Old King Dorans Ancient
well maybe next time you can be more specific instead of giving me a ">_>" for trying to help...........

and for the record the only thing dark silver is good for is magic protection....and old king dorans armor is decent beginners armor with no special effects...only thing good from him is the ring that charges stamina at a greater speed

Old King Doran's Armor actually has two noteworthy traits: it provides the highest fire defense of any armor set and it's the only set of metal armor that doesn't impede stamina recovery. This makes it well-suited for melees who prefer mobility over more tankish strategies.
And the only Dark Silver equipment I ever used is the shield, since it's the only shield in the game that completely negates both physical and magic damage on blocking, making it useful against certain enemies (though most of the time I stick with heavier shields).
And neither set is inherently "better" for a Blueblood build, which would primarily focus on strength and luck to increase damage.		2010-07-10 17:44:00

Author:
Dapiek Absaroka
Posts: 512

I finally got around to playing this game and beat the first level or whatever this morning. It was fun but the boss was kinda disappointing. I assume they get better.

Also, the story is very silly and I am much enjoying the way characters speak. I understand it's part of the setting and all but it's still amusing. So much melodramaaaaa. Not that this takes away from the game. I like my stories silly like this.		2010-07-10 21:25:00

Author:
monstahr
Posts: 1361

Yea the first boss isn't really much of a boss just many smaller weak units XD everything after that is more epic 2010-07-10 23:28:00

Author:
Littlebigdude805
Posts: 1924

I love using firebombs on the phalanx and his cronies.2010-07-10 23:42:00

Author:
robotiod
Posts: 2662

Old King Doran's Armor actually has two noteworthy traits: it provides the highest fire defense of any armor set and it's the only set of metal armor that doesn't impede stamina recovery. This makes it well-suited for melees who prefer mobility over more tankish strategies.
And the only Dark Silver equipment I ever used is the shield, since it's the only shield in the game that completely negates both physical and magic damage on blocking, making it useful against certain enemies (though most of the time I stick with heavier shields).
And neither set is inherently "better" for a Blueblood build, which would primarily focus on strength and luck to increase damage.

THIS

pretty much in the end you just want something with enough defense but that will let you still hop around with the speed of a rabbit		2010-07-11 00:08:00

Author:
Shadowcrazy
Posts: 3365

Well, game finished. I'm in the NG+ club now.

The game is a little short to be honest... but I guess that also fits in with the "old school" idea.		2010-07-11 01:53:00

Author:
Foofles
Posts: 2278

cool tell me when you around SL 40 XD2010-07-11 03:35:00

Author:
Littlebigdude805
Posts: 1924

Well, game finished. I'm in the NG+ club now.

The game is a little short to be honest... but I guess that also fits in with the "old school" idea.

congrats...now get into the SL100s so we can co-op sometime		2010-07-11 04:04:00

Author:
Shadowcrazy
Posts: 3365

can i get some advise from a pro? i have dorans armor right now but will soon kill garl, should i swap armor or keep it?


PRO here (naw not self centered but i am a good source for strats)
anyways PROTIP: something something long boss battle explanation, nothing to do with question, ironically not Protip for what he asked even tho he was acting all pro and stuff, something something.


ok... already knew all that >_> what i need to know is whats better for a blue blood swordsman build, Garls Dark Silver or Old King Dorans Ancient


well maybe next time you can be more specific instead of giving me a ">_>" for trying to help...........

On lbd's defence, he did just ask if he should swamp armors or not, didn't mention anything on how to kill a monster or anything about that, quite specific if you ask me, just saying

Well anywho, doesn't matter anyways, now for what (presumably) be my final question about this game before getting it, what's the replay va;ue, i mean once you finish the storey, then what, like what's the point to keep playing after you finish it, what keeps me hooked?		2010-07-11 04:20:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707

congrats...now get into the SL100s so we can co-op sometime

I'm SL 120 I think		2010-07-11 04:36:00

Author:
Foofles
Posts: 2278

Well anywho, doesn't matter anyways, now for what (presumably) be my final question about this game before getting it, what's the replay va;ue, i mean once you finish the storey, then what, like what's the point to keep playing after you finish it, what keeps me hooked?

You can re-enter the game as "new game +" each tiem you beat it, keeping your character and items but the game gets harder each time, there's also the online play, the PVP can get pretty intense.		2010-07-11 04:37:00

Author:
Foofles
Posts: 2278

On lbd's defence, he did just ask if he should swamp armors or not, didn't mention anything on how to kill a monster or anything about that, quite specific if you ask me, just saying

no you're not "just saying"...i read your quoting of me...maybe next time you can stop being a disrespectful d**che and just ignore it and ask your question instead of bringing up something that was already talked about and done....seriously dude bite me :/

also he mentions he will SOON KILL garl vinland so of course that could be the sentence that had me thinking he wanted a strategy

so again...bite me and stop looking for conflicts and arguments because i know that's what you're doing, but alas i can expect the reply to this being that of denial and trying to act "friendly" in the process.....so transparent

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@ foofles - guess if i find time i'll try and level up more so we can co-op sometime (co-op is usually with people near your level so im not sure if you can join my world or vice versa yet)		2010-07-11 04:56:00

Author:
Shadowcrazy
Posts: 3365

Wow dude, chill...
You should know by now most of my commentaries like such aren't serious.
Or is this another personal problem you got with me?
Is this one of my "conspiracies" you speak of?
(You're taking things a bit too seriously don't you think?)

lol anywho, thx foofles, that's just what i was asking. 		2010-07-11 07:44:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707

Wow dude, chill...
You should know by now most of my commentaries like such aren't serious.
Or is this another personal problem you got with me?
Is this one of my "conspiracies" you speak of?
(You're taking things a bit too seriously don't you think?)

lol anywho, thx foofles, that's just what i was asking.

again...bite me and F off man....you obviously see it annoys the hell outta me in yet you continue...so how about doing me and the dozens of other users (from previous forums who would agree) a favor and just cut the crap....this is about demon's souls...not annoying weeaboo finding more crap to annoy me with

/conversation - now quote it and try and annoy me again...just going to learn to ignore you from now on

ON-Topic:

just to let others know sometimes for the holidays they do world tendency events where they shift your tendency to PURE BLACK/PURE WHITE for that specific day so you can do whatever you need to do with those tendencies...

not sure if july 4th had anything tho		2010-07-11 07:48:00

Author:
Shadowcrazy
Posts: 3365

@ silver

I find lots of replayability in the game, I have finished it 5 times with one character, 6 times overall, the fact that the game continues to get progressively harder makes it more and more fun every time.

Also if anyone has a character around soul level 155, or soul level six i'll co-op some time, (I'm not levelling with my soul level 6 so yeah its going to be a challenge 		2010-07-11 07:56:00

Author:
robotiod
Posts: 2662


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