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Waterrrrrrrrrrrr

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Waterrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Haven't been on for awhile.....

Has LBP gotten water yet?

Or any other news on it...

..

k		2009-10-26 04:32:00

Author:
Shris
Posts: 126

Nope. My ETA is January, but there haven't been any hints/confirmations officially, that's just a guess.2009-10-26 04:34:00

Author:
hilightnotes
Posts: 1230

Waterrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Haven't been on for awhile.....

Has LBP gotten water yet?

Or any other news on it...

..

k

the beta started last month if im not mistaken

to my knowledge there has not been any further news on when it will be released or anything like that		2009-10-26 04:35:00

Author:
siccology
Posts: 279

...all i can tell you is sometime...i can't tell you anymore than that!2009-10-26 04:37:00

Author:
theswweet
Posts: 2468

Forget I said anything... 2009-10-26 11:41:00

Author:
ARD
Posts: 4291

oh ARD whyd you have to say that,

better to live in false hope than in hopeless truth		2009-10-26 11:46:00

Author:
Kern
Posts: 5078

Said what? My lips are sealed.2009-10-26 13:00:00

Author:
ARD
Posts: 4291

Said what? My lips are sealed.
Probably shouldn't be discussing it. Beta agreement and all....		2009-10-26 13:34:00

Author:
CCubbage
Posts: 4430

No discussion of beta, please.2009-10-26 15:00:00

Author:
supersickie
Posts: 1366

When Ice Age 4 comes, we will get Water.
So that all the little Sackboy/girls can craft Water out of Ice.

So... yeah it will take a while I guess...		2009-10-26 16:44:00

Author:
Dexist
Posts: 570

It's coming in 2047, Ok.2009-10-26 16:50:00

Author:
CreateNPlay
Posts: 1266

I expect it'll be here just before Christmas, along with online create and probably a new water level pack. It makes sense for them to released loads of stuff at once, and the best time to do that is Christmas (like they did with the MGS pack).....2009-10-26 17:22:00

Author:
Nuclearfish
Posts: 927

better to live in false hope than in hopeless truth

I have to say that this statement strikes me as more than a little malicious. I don't think that deluding ourselves is ever a "better" option.

I'd rather know when the water was going to hit. It would help me plan as far as level creation.

Knowing is ultimately practical.		2009-10-26 17:27:00

Author:
Jagrevi
Posts: 1154

Seriously, a huge update like "online create + water" better come out soon. Soon I mean, before Christmas. It's real nice PR excuses and they want to market the GOTY edition in that time so it takes a part of the Christmas cake.

If Media Molecule can't do it then it's a real huge business opportunity lost imo.

.		2009-10-26 19:01:00

Author:
RangerZero
Posts: 3901

Well most of us seem to believe it shall be out before Christmas, so late February/March then...2009-10-26 19:22:00

Author:
persona3fan93
Posts: 155

Well most of us seem to believe it shall be out before Christmas, so late February/March then...

Lol. So true.


@ Ranger, surely a patch this big will have to go through a rigorous official QA on the final build after the beta, no? Obviously I'm asking you because you'd know better than most of us?		2009-10-26 19:26:00

Author:
rtm223
Posts: 6497

Lol. So true.

@ Ranger, surely a patch this big will have to go through a rigorous official QA on the final build after the beta, no? Obviously I'm asking you because you'd know better than most of us?

Well, since it's a "public" beta this means the machine should be on since a while. When they do such beta it's mostly (and most of the time) for testing server load or having extra testing juuuuuust in case people would discover something big. A public beta can be done on a product that is in approval phase or even already approved since it's mostly just a double fail-safe for devs/publishers.

Also, this is why you often see the content or updates (or games) released merely days away when the public beta ends. Look at Uncharted 2 per example, one of the lastest huge beta. This game was probably in printing already before the beta ended. It takes ~ 1 month to print copies.

.		2009-10-26 19:45:00

Author:
RangerZero
Posts: 3901

And not to mention the lengthy Locale writing...2009-10-27 01:50:00

Author:
CreateNPlay
Posts: 1266

Water proberly november. its been about 1 1/2 month, the water will also come with lvls like mgs pack.2009-10-28 21:38:00

Author:
bakscratch
Posts: 258

The online create beta took quite a while so I'll be surprised if water is released in 2009.2009-10-28 21:42:00

Author:
S-A-S--G-U-N-R
Posts: 1606

The online create beta took quite a while so I'll be surprised if water is released in 2009.

Yes but that feature is incredibly more complex and prone to bugs so I wouldn't be surprised water would have less testing. Also, I *heard* (cough cough) there's like no bugs with the water.

.		2009-10-28 21:53:00

Author:
RangerZero
Posts: 3901

I'm just gonna step in here with a little thought for everyone second guessing the release date:

Since water was first announced, people have been guessing dates, for when the beta would start, for when water would be released properly etc etc. People invented these dates and then got all upset when their guesses were wrong.

Don't hold out too much hope for imaginary release dates, you are just setting yourself up for disappointment.		2009-10-28 21:58:00

Author:
rtm223
Posts: 6497

Yes but that feature is incredibly more complex and prone to bugs so I wouldn't be surprised water would have less testing. Also, I *heard* (cough cough) there's like no bugs with the water.

.

That's good news then.


I saw a video of the water beta on youtube (it's probably been banned now, along with the two players) and [Edited by request to keep info about the beta private]		2009-10-28 22:01:00

Author:
S-A-S--G-U-N-R
Posts: 1606

Shnip shnip. All your quote are belong to bwana.

NO SPEAKING OF THE BETA!!

http://i33.tinypic.com/14bq4n9.gif		2009-10-28 22:07:00

Author:
Unknown User

NO SPEAKING OF THE BETA!!

http://www.gifsoup.com/view/6748/dramatic-bwana-o.gif

Isn't it allowed if you're not in the beta?

I can't see the animation btw.		2009-10-28 22:11:00

Author:
S-A-S--G-U-N-R
Posts: 1606

Image fixed.

The whole reason the beta is private is to keep leaks from happening!		2009-10-28 22:15:00

Author:
Unknown User

Image fixed.

The whole reason the beta is private is to keep leaks from happening!

I'm not in the beta so I didn't accept any terms and conditions, I'll edit the post anyway.		2009-10-28 22:17:00

Author:
S-A-S--G-U-N-R
Posts: 1606

I'm not in the beta so I didn't accept any terms and conditions, I'll edit the post anyway.

The agreement is with ConfusedCartman anyways
He did ask that this forum doesn't participate in beta discussion / leaking info, etc.

.		2009-10-28 22:24:00

Author:
RangerZero
Posts: 3901

The agreement is with ConfusedCartman anyways
He did ask that this forum doesn't participate in beta discussion / leaking info, etc.

.

Ok, that makes sense...

Crashdance22, change your post so people can't see the quote.		2009-10-28 22:27:00

Author:
S-A-S--G-U-N-R
Posts: 1606

"Crashdance22, change your post so people can't see the quote."

Done.		2009-10-28 22:39:00

Author:
Unknown User

Also, this is why you often see the content or updates (or games) released merely days away when the public beta ends. Look at Uncharted 2 per example, one of the lastest huge beta. This game was probably in printing already before the beta ended. It takes ~ 1 month to print copies.
.

Betas like the recent uncharted 2 beta are more about ensuring the servers are working properly so they don't end up with tons of bad press when the game launches and the online is broken for several days.		2009-10-28 23:23:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728

Betas like the recent uncharted 2 beta are more about ensuring the servers are working properly so they don't end up with tons of bad press when the game launches and the online is broken for several days.

Exactly. I was just explaining they don't wait for a public beta to end before sending the game to the manifacturing.

.		2009-10-28 23:42:00

Author:
RangerZero
Posts: 3901

this statement strikes me as more than a little malicious.

malicious?

im just lessening the fall saying that its [supersickie wouldnt want me to say this] makes me depressed, but being Optimistic, and saying it could come out this thursday as a treat from Mm seems like a better option to me		2009-10-29 00:11:00

Author:
Kern
Posts: 5078

I thought water was supposed to be DLC?2009-10-29 00:39:00

Author:
Arkei
Posts: 1432

malicious?

im just lessening the fall saying that its [supersickie wouldnt want me to say this] makes me depressed, but being Optimistic, and saying it could come out this thursday as a treat from Mm seems like a better option to me


The statement was not "it's better to be optimistic". The statement was "false hope is better than hopeless truth" - meaning liking the answer is more important than accuracy, which when stated as a blanket statement like that really comes off as a horrible philosophy (given that it was stated as a generality, and therefore was put up to apply to anything).

I know you most likely didn't consciously mean it as "it is better to believe what is preferable despite evidence to the contrary", but that's the meme that was put forth, it's a common one in modern society, and without being too specific, I know people who have fallen into great misfortune, including a few who are dead, because of this line of "reasoning".

What I was calling malicious was simply the idea that "it is better for us to live in false hope than hopeless truth" - the "believe whatever you want" philosophy - which is a philosophy under which all integrity and utility flies entirely out the window. I was not saying that either you, or more specifically the simple premise that "optimism may help here", was malicious.

I agree that guarded optimism may be useful here ... at least for those of us who do not know when it will be released. For anyone who actually does know, however, and convinces themselves of an "alternate truth" simply because they find it preferable ... that's known as self-delusion.		2009-10-29 01:01:00

Author:
Jagrevi
Posts: 1154

The statement was not "it's better to be optimistic". The statement was "false hope is better than hopeless truth" - meaning liking the answer is more important than accuracy, which when stated as a blanket statement like that really comes off as a horrible philosophy (given that it was stated as a generality, and therefore was put up to apply to anything).

I know you most likely didn't consciously mean it as "it is better to believe what is preferable despite evidence to the contrary", but that's the meme that was put forth, it's a common one in modern society, and without being too specific, I know people who have fallen into great misfortune, including a few who are dead, because of this line of "reasoning".

What I was calling malicious was simply the idea that "it is better for us to live in false hope than hopeless truth" - the "believe whatever you want" philosophy - which is a philosophy under which all integrity and utility flies entirely out the window. I was not saying that either you, or more specifically the simple premise that "optimism may help here", was malicious.

I agree that guarded optimism may be useful here ... at least for those of us who do not know when it will be released. For anyone who actually does know, however, and convinces themselves of an "alternate truth" simply because they find it preferable ... that's known as self-delusion.

In english now? xD		2009-10-29 01:06:00

Author:
iGotFancyPants
Posts: 1355

"Believing in something simply because you want to believe it will not do you any favours"

Loses a fair bit of the depth of jagrevi's statement, but it's kinda similar.		2009-10-29 01:15:00

Author:
rtm223
Posts: 6497

I thought water was supposed to be DLC?

its going to be		2009-10-29 01:56:00

Author:
siccology
Posts: 279

It will come the 21/12/2012

That's the real maya prophecy, water ftw!		2009-10-31 21:16:00

Author:
Flame Dragon
Posts: 312


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