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US President Barack Obama has been awarded the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize.

The Nobel Committee said he won it for "his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and co-operation between peoples".






I just wanted to know how people felt about this news and if you think he deserves this honor


Here is the link
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8298580.stm		2009-10-09 13:16:00

Author:
robotiod
Posts: 2662

Must have been a slow year in terms of peace...
IMO, he's doing a great job but this might be a bit too much credit.		2009-10-09 13:26:00

Author:
Zwollie
Posts: 2173

Paul Reynolds from BBC News said it best.

The award is certainly unexpected and might be regarded as more of an encouragement for intentions than a reward for achievements.		2009-10-09 13:27:00

Author:
wexfordian
Posts: 1904

Eh?...

Not to say that I put much stock into this prize anyway. But seriously, what the hell has he done in this regard?		2009-10-09 13:31:00

Author:
Foofles
Posts: 2278

I think not awarding the prize at all would have been better. Quite frankly no politician or public figure did anything remotely deserving a prize last year.
Even better award it to the unknown small men who work all around the world for a better place and don't get any attention at all.		2009-10-09 13:36:00

Author:
Syroc
Posts: 3193

You can't give nobel prizes to pixies Syroc! You're silly. 2009-10-09 13:45:00

Author:
rtm223
Posts: 6497

Ever since learning *why* the Nobel prizes were made, I can't really give them any merit at all. Call me cynical, but I also think there's a fair amount of lobbying going on with those prizes.2009-10-09 13:50:00

Author:
Gilgamesh
Posts: 2536

Ever since learning *why* the Nobel prizes were made, I can't really give them any merit at all. Call me cynical, but I also think there's a fair amount of lobbying going on with those prizes.

To say there's a fair amount of lobbying is an understatement. We might as well give one to Michael Moore while we're at it.

I really try to not be so down on President Obama because - similar to President Bush - I get the feeling that he does genuinely have the country's best interest at heart. And then something like this happens to take the hype up another notch.

So, is it more of a preemptive award? If so, then why don't we go ahead and give Chris Brown a lifetime achievement award for his contributions to the music community while we're at it? Give me a break...		2009-10-09 14:10:00

Author:
supersickie
Posts: 1366

In my opinion i think he was awarded with it to get him to try harder to make "world peace" if you give him something like tis he will work harder like teaching a dog tricks.2009-10-09 14:23:00

Author:
robotiod
Posts: 2662

I think this logic is hideously backwards.

I actually see it the other way around. Once you get something, you work less because you already have it. Obama has less motivation now to do better since he already has his reward.		2009-10-09 14:34:00

Author:
TheJollyRajah
Posts: 466

I'd give him a prize just for NOT being George W. Bush. Not sure if it would be the Nobel Peace Prize, though. Maybe an emmy. Or an oscar perhaps.2009-10-09 14:36:00

Author:
xkappax
Posts: 2569

I'd give him a prize just for NOT being George W. Bush. Not sure if it would be the Nobel Peace Prize, though. Maybe an emmy. Or an oscar perhaps.

I won an Oscar once for my portayal of Goerge W Bush in the Movie american life. lol'm only kidding but seriously why an scar or an emmy he isnt a movie star.		2009-10-09 14:44:00

Author:
robotiod
Posts: 2662

I'd give him a prize just for NOT being George W. Bush. Not sure if it would be the Nobel Peace Prize, though. Maybe an emmy. Or an oscar perhaps.


I won an Oscar once for my portayal of Goerge W Bush in the Movie american life. lol'm only kidding but seriously why an scar or an emmy he isnt a movie star.

I can argue that he mostly is Most presidents are nowadays, to be honest.		2009-10-09 14:49:00

Author:
Foofles
Posts: 2278

I'd give him a prize just for NOT being George W. Bush.
The American electorate should get the prize for not voting for Bush again
(not that they could, but neve rmind that.)		2009-10-09 14:53:00

Author:
Syroc
Posts: 3193

If you want my opinion on it, a picture's worth a thousand words: http://mikeely.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/bush-obama.jpg

Anyway, this is all just a bunch of PR nonsense. But then is so is the US government in general. God help us.		2009-10-09 14:58:00

Author:
Foofles
Posts: 2278

If you want my opinion on it, a picture's worth a thousand words: http://mikeely.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/bush-obama.jpg

Anyway, this is all just a bunch of PR nonsense. But then is so is the US government in general. God help us.


Great picture lol Borack W.Bush		2009-10-09 15:04:00

Author:
robotiod
Posts: 2662

Hah, I like the Anti-Health care/Obama ads that appear in the thread. ^.^
Silly people, health care is not bad.		2009-10-09 15:06:00

Author:
Syroc
Posts: 3193

The NHS is a good service so why wouldn't america want somehing like that2009-10-09 15:07:00

Author:
robotiod
Posts: 2662

The NHS is a good service so why wouldn't america want somehing like that

We do.

Local jurisdictions have their own things... some do, some don't, there are very few "American systems of ______ " because it's ridiculous to standardize everything on the federal level. Modularity is key to American design.

You gotta keep in mind England is the size of one US state. Can you imagine one health care system covering All of Europe and beyond? It'd have way too many problems.		2009-10-09 15:17:00

Author:
Foofles
Posts: 2278

Lol @ your estimations of size. The UK is a tad bigger than a state... like 10 times bigger, but yeah, even so, that is a pretty large scale to manage an entire healthcare system, especially to set up in one go. Is the push towards state healthcare in the USA looking good at the mo?2009-10-09 15:25:00

Author:
rtm223
Posts: 6497

Thus far, I feel like Obama has been handling foreign affairs rather well, but domestically, I think there is still a lot of work to be done. Does his handling of foreign affairs thus far make him deserving of the award? Hmm, I don't know. I'm sure there was probably someone else more deserving (at this time at least), like former President Bill Clinton.2009-10-09 15:27:00

Author:
mrsupercomputer
Posts: 1335

Well I cited England in particular ...

eg. According to Wikipedia, New York is 54,555 sq mi, Florida is 65,795 sq mi , England 50,346 sq mi ... So yes, England is indeed smaller than some US states. However that is not really important. (Just being a butt )

Again, all the states run independently from eachother. Where I live we do implement several systems similar to the NHS.		2009-10-09 15:28:00

Author:
Foofles
Posts: 2278

US President Barack Obama has been awarded the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize.

The Nobel Committee said he won it for "his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and co-operation between peoples".


I just wanted to know how people felt about this news and if you think he deserves this honor


Here is the link
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8298580.stm

What? You have got to be kidding! I thought sure I had it wrapped up. LOL!!

Sorry to say, but by doing this they are basically saying this was a slow year and in essence dilute the achievements by so many former winners. They should have skipped a year and told everyone to try harder.

Actually they should have given it to Mm and 2nd place to LBPC. I think these two have done more good in uniting creative people from all over the world than any world leader could ever accomplish.		2009-10-09 15:33:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383

good point, I should have pointed out I was thinking in terms of populations, which is a far better indicator of how big your infrastructure would be IMO. I mean australia's huge, but you wouldn't need a massive infrastructure there. As you say though, not at all relevant to the conversation at hand.2009-10-09 15:33:00

Author:
rtm223
Posts: 6497

I'm sure there was probably someone else more deserving (at this time at least), like former President Bill Clinton.

I was thinking this, but wasn't educated enough on the topic to want to argue in the event someone contradicted me. It seems like all he does anymore is work to help the less fortunate in other countries...		2009-10-09 15:41:00

Author:
comphermc
Posts: 5338

Thus far, I feel like Obama has been handling foreign affairs rather well, but domestically, I think there is still a lot of work to be done. Does his handling of foreign affairs thus far make him deserving of the award? Hmm, I don't know. I'm sure there was probably someone else more deserving (at this time at least), like former President Bill Clinton.

good call

when he got those reporters out North Korea, That was pretty cool. If you look at it he is technally just a citizen now. And having no governmental powers got the reporteres pardoned, something obama's administration didnt get done.		2009-10-09 15:42:00

Author:
deboerdave
Posts: 384

I dunno. I like obama, to be perfectly honest, and I was just joking about him getting an emmy. lol.

I agree with Foofles about the whole health care thing. The US is a very large place, and health care for everyone would just cause way more problems than it would create.

I hated george bush with the white hot intensity of 1000 suns, and thought our country was going to a very bad place under his "leadership"... if you can call it that. Those 8 years felt like a very bad episode of "The Office", except instead of an inept idiot being in charge of a company, he was in charge of a country.

Excuse me if I have offended anyone, btw, this is not my aim. I just really disliked our former president and thought he did an awful job. 		2009-10-09 15:44:00

Author:
xkappax
Posts: 2569

You can't offend anyone by voicing that kind of opinion... I hope not anyway

I don't really blame Bush so much as I blame his cabinet. Or as much as I hate the way US government has been moving in general. Meh, whatever, derailing thread.

I guess Obama can also be credited with calling out our ninjas (SEALs) to get rid of those Somalian pirates. Bad ***.		2009-10-09 15:46:00

Author:
Foofles
Posts: 2278

Yes we can!2009-10-09 16:00:00

Author:
BasketSnake
Posts: 2391

Just read that nominations were due when Obama had been in office for a solid ELEVEN days. Make of that what you will.

EDIT: I'm also assuming that the nomination deadline would have meant that the person nominated could have only been recognized for things that had already been accomplished, not things that could come to pass.		2009-10-09 16:20:00

Author:
supersickie
Posts: 1366

Wow. That's an interesting bit of info...2009-10-09 16:35:00

Author:
Foofles
Posts: 2278

I just saw that Greg Mortenson was one of the nominees. He would have been my pick. If any of you have read Three Cups of Tea, you'd see why.

I was glad to see that Obama viewed this as a "call to action" and hopefully, it will serve as a motivator. Although, with all the talk about troop surges in Afghanistan... I'm not sure if he'll be able to remain entirely peaceful.		2009-10-09 18:23:00

Author:
mrsupercomputer
Posts: 1335

Haha I can't wait to rub this in my Republican friends face. He hates Obama.2009-10-09 18:43:00

Author:
ChristmasJew
Posts: 431

If you want my opinion on it, a picture's worth a thousand words: http://mikeely.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/bush-obama.jpg

OH GOD WHY!!?? MY EYES!!! MAKE IT STOP!! WHY HAVE YOU DONE THIS TO ME???

...

And on another topic, I agree that this seems to be a little ridiculous. The way I see it, simply having a president that is able and willing to talk honestly with foreign leaders without coming across like a clown/sleazebag/idiot is such a fundamental step up that it must be rewarded at all costs.

Perhaps if Bush didn't precede Obama, he wouldn't be getting this award.

But then again, if Bush didn't precede Obama, Obama wouldn't have been elected to begin with...		2009-10-09 23:41:00

Author:
Teebonesy
Posts: 1937

Haha I can't wait to rub this in my Republican friends face. He hates Obama.

Thanks for that idea, I have a friend like that!		2009-10-10 01:06:00

Author:
Astrosimi
Posts: 2046

I think this whole thing is stupid. He hasn't done a thing so far, and for the most part acts like an idiot. And on top of everything, he wants to make school LONGER
.______.
WTF, DUDE?!?		2009-10-12 16:31:00

Author:
Sackwise
Posts: 305

Shows how pointless the award is. america is in 2 wars, and the leader of the country gets a PEACE prize? WTF.2009-10-12 18:31:00

Author:
Unknown User

He didn't start the wars and it takes time to stop them unless you want to leave total chaos behind. 2009-10-12 18:35:00

Author:
Syroc
Posts: 3193

Nothing wrong with total chaos. And a nuke could solve it

You have to think these things through 		2009-10-12 18:38:00

Author:
Unknown User

I like your plan. Shame the world isn't like Civ.

/gets annoyed by Zulu
/nukes
/no consequences
o/
/nukes everyone else		2009-10-12 18:44:00

Author:
Syroc
Posts: 3193

Going by achievements, not really sure he deserved it. But then again, I can see where his plans and efforts that he has already begun, and the image he stands for after becoming first African American president of the US, and the peace between people that he does promote in his new approach that no president before has taken, then I could see why the award was given to him.


I think this logic is hideously backwards.

I actually see it the other way around. Once you get something, you work less because you already have it. Obama has less motivation now to do better since he already has his reward.

I disagree personally, because knowing Obama, he does not seem like that type of person. He seems more the type that would work harder because even he himself said he doesn't know what he did to deserve it. So I think it will motivate him to prove to the weary why he deserves it.		2009-10-12 18:51:00

Author:
Unknown User

YouTube - Obama wins Nobel Prize?.2009-10-12 22:07:00

Author:
TheMarvelousHat
Posts: 542

Shows how pointless the award is. america is in 2 wars, and the leader of the country gets a PEACE prize? WTF.

The wars started by George "DUBYA" Bush.


Nothing wrong with total chaos. And a nuke could solve it

You have to think these things through

Yeah, if you like killing millions of innocent civilians. Most Middle_easterners aren't radicals, just their governments.		2009-10-12 22:13:00

Author:
Astrosimi
Posts: 2046

The wars started by George "DUBYA" Bush.

He didn't start the wars and it takes time to stop them unless you want to leave total chaos behind.

So how is deploying more troops helping then? And why would it leave chaos behind if they stopped killing them right now? Please explain...


Most Middle_easterners aren't radicals, just their governments.

Yeah, more like none of them are. Remember the 'reason' for the wars? If you believe the official story for that then you probably can't think for yourself.

Obama fails, so does Bush. There's absolutely no difference at all between them... and don't just say one's republican and one's a democrat because those words have just completely lost their meanings now.

There's nothing peaceful that Obama has done, at all. And to anyone who says, "He's trying", then that isn't what the nobel peace prize is even for. (Even though Henry Kissinger got a nobel peace prize and he would just love to see the population to go down by 90% or so).
2009-10-12 22:41:00

Author:
S-A-S--G-U-N-R
Posts: 1606

The NHS is a good service so why wouldn't america want somehing like that

We do, but we don't have as much money to bribe politicians with than the insurance companies.

From what I've seen and heard, Obama isn't really trying, either. He's making empty promises, like all politicians. Voters need to stop voting based on commercials and words and the press and more on action. Too bad most presidential candidates have been horrible anyway. Everyone says that Bush was a terrible president, but do you think Al Gore would have been any better?

Let me answer that with a picture:

http://tehresistance.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/al-gore-is-manbearpig.jpg		2009-10-12 22:44:00

Author:
qrtda235566
Posts: 3664

So how is deploying more troops helping then? And why would it leave chaos behind if they stopped killing them right now? Please explain...
It's helping because the situation isn't really under control as it is. (Though non-military operation would probably work better). Because if they left Afghanistan now the Taliban would just gain control again or at least die tryin (to say it 50cents words ).
Seriously I'm all for pulling out and I was and am against the war in Afghanistan and Iraq, but pulling out just like that wouldn't make the situation better.

(PS: I'm not a military consultant, that's just my opinion based on what I hear and see in the news)		2009-10-12 22:48:00

Author:
Syroc
Posts: 3193

You have good points, S-A-S, but I don't get this statement.



Yeah, more like none of them are. Remember the 'reason' for the wars? If you believe the official story for that then you probably can't think for yourself.


Are you being sarcastic? I'm not sure what you're trying to say. And I'm not sure if I like my thought process judged.		2009-10-12 22:53:00

Author:
Astrosimi
Posts: 2046

Our reasons for being in the middle east right now extend far before Bush's presidency, it's a deep, complicated, several decade long mess that's probably well beyond the scope of this thread.

IMO if anyone should get a peace prize, it's the men and women who fight for liberty and freedom on a daily basis. All over the world people are shedding blood and tears everyday for what most of take for granted. This is spitting in their face for PR purposes.		2009-10-12 22:55:00

Author:
Foofles
Posts: 2278

It's helping because the situation isn't really under control as it is. (Though non-military operation would probably work better). Because if they left Afghanistan now the Taliban would just gain control again or at least die tryin (to say it 50cents words ).
Seriously I'm all for pulling out and I was and am against the war in Afghanistan and Iraq, but pulling out just like that wouldn't make the situation better.

(PS: I'm not a military consultant, that's just my opinion based on what I hear and see in the news)

Then maybe what you hear and see in the news is distorted.

YouTube - Rage Against The Machine - Wake Up + lyrics


You have good points, S-A-S, but I don't get this statement.


Are you being sarcastic? I'm not sure what you're trying to say. And I'm not sure if I like my thought process judged.

9/11		2009-10-12 22:59:00

Author:
S-A-S--G-U-N-R
Posts: 1606

Then maybe what you hear and see in the news is distorted.

Probably, except I use several news sources and not all belong to Rupert Murdoch, that way I get a pretty balanced information feed and I do more than just taking in what I've been told. 		2009-10-12 23:01:00

Author:
Syroc
Posts: 3193

YouTube - Obama wins Nobel Prize? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHhi-PoeUs8).

Hilarious... I love the casual spitting/puking. there's no big to-do about it, it just kind of happens.

Also, in case anyone is still following this, some interesting tidbits:

The nominees this year (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/and-the-other-nobel-peace-prize-nominees-were-1801350.html) included:
? A doctor in the Republic of Congo who helps hundreds of victims of brutal rape;
? An Afghan woman who dedicates her life to furthering the cause of women's rights and children's welfare in Afghanistan;
? An Islamic scholar and professor who works to bridge the east-west gap and encourage understanding between people of different religions;
? A man who is trying to fight the negative effects of religious extremism in the middle east by improving education (he's built over 80 schools in the region);
? A Columbian senator who has secured hostages and fought tirelessly to end a 45-year conflict, herself braving kidnappings and assassination attempts;
? and A former electrician at the Beijing Zoo who has fought for democratic rights in China, and who has spent 18 years of his life in prison for taking up this cause, and who continues his struggle today.		2009-10-13 09:45:00

Author:
Teebonesy
Posts: 1937

Since Arafat got a Nobel for the peace, I guess anyone can have one.2009-10-13 10:36:00

Author:
OmegaSlayer
Posts: 5112

We do, but we don't have as much money to bribe politicians with than the insurance companies.

From what I've seen and heard, Obama isn't really trying, either. He's making empty promises, like all politicians. Voters need to stop voting based on commercials and words and the press and more on action. Too bad most presidential candidates have been horrible anyway. Everyone says that Bush was a terrible president, but do you think Al Gore would have been any better?

Let me answer that with a picture:

http://tehresistance.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/al-gore-is-manbearpig.jpg

We got to catch ManBearPig! I'm like, totally serial!		2009-10-13 16:49:00

Author:
Unknown User

Hilarious... I love the casual spitting/puking. there's no big to-do about it, it just kind of happens.

Also, in case anyone is still following this, some interesting tidbits:

The nominees this year (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/and-the-other-nobel-peace-prize-nominees-were-1801350.html) included:
? A doctor in the Republic of Congo who helps hundreds of victims of brutal rape;
? An Afghan woman who dedicates her life to furthering the cause of women's rights and children's welfare in Afghanistan;
? An Islamic scholar and professor who works to bridge the east-west gap and encourage understanding between people of different religions;
? A man who is trying to fight the negative effects of religious extremism in the middle east by improving education (he's built over 80 schools in the region);
? A Columbian senator who has secured hostages and fought tirelessly to end a 45-year conflict, herself braving kidnappings and assassination attempts;
? and A former electrician at the Beijing Zoo who has fought for democratic rights in China, and who has spent 18 years of his life in prison for taking up this cause, and who continues his struggle today.

Not to beat a dead horse, but seeing this really should ring loud and clear to everyone.		2009-10-16 16:11:00

Author:
supersickie
Posts: 1366

Keep in mind, people, that this is the same award Al Gore won for making a propaganda film.2009-10-16 17:30:00

Author:
qrtda235566
Posts: 3664


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