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EDIT: Thanks so much guys I have my answer and everything is sorted. So much thanks guys I am struggling to explain. I don't need anymore posts guys but thanks much people. Right, I am seriously confused. People say that some 1080i tvs cant run 720p games unless they downscale it to 480p which isn't hd blah blah blah. I have several questions. 1. Can 1080p TV's run 720p games? I am planning of getting a new TV, but I am worried it will make my LBP look bad. 2. Do you think the following TV will work without making LBP 480p? http://www.comet.co.uk/shopcomet/product/453595/PHILIPS-42PFL7603D10?cm_ven=Froogle&cm_cat=Feed&cm_pla=Plasma_and_LCD_TVs&cm_ite=453595_PHILIPS_42PFL7603D10 Last but not least. 3. If you don't think it'll work well, what tv should I get? (I am aiming around the ?600-?900 Mark and I want a TV that can run 1080p games to 1080p and 720p games to 720p or something like that, I am apalling at TVs) Thanks, Will.

2008-09-20 11:41:00 Author: Callahan90 Posts: 98

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Your best bet is to do a bit of research here AV Forums (http://www.avforums.com/) it is a Uk based site so they will know about the models specific to your region. 1080P 24fps Full HD is what you should be looking at, depending on whether you want Plasma or LCD. Personally I'd go for a 50" Panasonic Plasma in that price range but again have a read of the AV Forum specifically the FAQ in the Flat Panel forum and ask a few questions and get yourself up to speed before you go and spend your money or else you will probably end up with what the salesman wants to sell you rather than what you need and what meets your requirements. Cheers QuozL

2008-09-20 11:50:00 Author: QuozL Posts: 921

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Thanks much, 50 inch, cor, thats huge. Trouble is though I have heard Plasmas and the best tvs, despite they are cheaper... Anyone else? Thanks, Will.

2008-09-20 11:53:00 Author: Callahan90 Posts: 98

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- As far as I know, all 1080i and above (meaning 1080p too) TVs can run 720p. - Yes, it should work perfectly. - If you've already decided that Philips is the best, then go head and get the one you've set your eyes on, because that one seems good. Although you should also look at it in the shop too, don't just blindly buy it. >_>

2008-09-20 11:54:00 Author: ScytheOfGrim Posts: 438

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- As far as I know, all 1080i and above (meaning 1080p too) TVs can run 720p. - Yes, it should work perfectly. - If you've already decided that Philips is the best, then go head and get the one you've set your eyes on, because that one seems good. Although you should also look at it in the shop too, don't just blindly buy it. >_> Thanks much, thats made me confident. Does anyone know the difference between 1080p and 1080i? Thanks so much guys I am so pleased with how quick you have replied and all the help you have given. Will.

2008-09-20 11:59:00 Author: Callahan90 Posts: 98

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Last I heard 1080i > 1080p

2008-09-20 12:06:00 Author: DrunkMiffy Posts: 2758

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1080p is better than 1080i. 1080i interlaces the video, which - I have a very slight understanding of this - is only showing every other line to make the video faster. Obviously, this decreases the picture quality.

2008-09-20 12:08:00 Author: bbroman Posts: 1374

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i is interlaced -this is two pics that alternate giving the impression of full HD p is progressive - this is TRUE HD which is the full 1080 lines

2008-09-20 12:12:00 Author: dorien Posts: 2767

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Shows how much I know

2008-09-20 12:13:00 Author: DrunkMiffy Posts: 2758

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At your question: the numbers refer to the amount of horizontal lines in the picture; the more lines there are, the higher the detail. As for the letters, 'p' means a progressively scanned image, which is more stable and smooth because each frame is drawn in its entirety, whereas 'i' is an interlaced signal that rapidly switches between the odd and even horizontal lines of an image, giving the impression of a full frame. Roughly speaking, 720p is better for fast motion but 1080i suits more static, detailed visuals with 1080p therefore being the best of both worlds and the ultimate daddy =D Hope I helped.

2008-09-20 12:18:00 Author: Unknown User

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Thanks much guys but does anyone know what it is because people have been saying that.. Well just read this: http://www.joystiq.com/2006/11/15/720p-ps3-games-downscale-on-older-hd-sets/ Help? I am scared that I will have rubbishy quality. Thanks, Will. EDIT: Thanks so much Creative that really cleared it up for me

2008-09-20 12:20:00 Author: Callahan90 Posts: 98

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No problem

2008-09-20 12:22:00 Author: Unknown User

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Thanks much guys but does anyone know what it is because people have been saying that.. Well just read this: http://www.joystiq.com/2006/11/15/720p-ps3-games-downscale-on-older-hd-sets/ Help? I am scared that I will have rubbishy quality. Thanks, Will. EDIT: Thanks so much Creative that really cleared it up for me It's also important to note that the smaller the TV, the less need of a high pixel count there is. I've heard (might want to do a bit of research on this) that you can't see the difference between 1080p and 720p on anything smaller than 42". But if you're getting larger, then you certainly want to go for the "full HD" option.

2008-09-20 12:26:00 Author: ScytheOfGrim Posts: 438

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Thanks so much guys I have my answer and everything is sorted. So much thanks guys I am struggling to explain. I don't need anymore posts guys but thanks much people. Once again thanks, Will.

2008-09-20 12:30:00 Author: Callahan90 Posts: 98

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I know you said there is no more need for posts. I just wanted to say, anyone here about 1440p? I just heard it on the news, I just got my 1080p LCD.... I'm kind of mad that I wasted money when I should of waited for the 1440p... So anyone here about it? PM if you don't want to keep this thread going, since he already has his answer.

2008-09-20 21:11:00 Author: Whalio Cappuccino Posts: 5250

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Let me make a note here on what you were confused about. Some of the old, first-batch HDTVs were rather large boxes, more like the even older big-screens, and due to the technology at the time, they could only run in 1080i (because i is much easier to process than p is), scratch out 720p or 1080p. We're talking early 2000s. Due to this, anything that inputs into it either beforehand upscales the full-image 720p into 1080i, or downscales it to 480i/p (it depends on HOW old it is, really). But anything that's an HD flatscreen, LCD or plasma, will support both 720p and 1080i, and you have to pay considerably more for the same thing that also supports 1080p, so just like others on here have said. However, a further note: 1080p is very overrated. Seriously. I've used both, and 1080i works just great. Unless you're doing something that's running 60 Frames Per Second, and that'd be a select number of games, (as movies run under 30) and most games also run around the 30 area. 1080i will run at 60 FPS, but displays every other horizontal line and the others are implied by your eyes and brain. Which isn't all that bad of a thing, because that ends up being a solid 30. So as far as you're concerned, there's no difference because the actual pixels are there. Now, if you're playing a game that supports 1080p and has BLAZING gameplay speed at well over 30 FPS, you may be able to notice a difference, because on 1080i it may be half a frame off, and there could be some "tearing" that occurs between it. But honestly, you'd be wrapped up in the game, and difficult enough to detect, that you won't even notice it, or if you do only as a slight niggle. (Again, I've done this.) So yes, 1080p is better and best. But by how much? Not as much as advertised. I would not spend that much extra to get it over just a 720p/1080i set. But if you're willing to go for it and you've got the money to spare, sure. But just remember that a lot of the detail in each display depends on how well the set takes the signal and makes that translate into the image, because a bad set can mean that you may have 1080p, but it doesn't look any better at all. Read around for reviews on different TVs and make sure there aren't any complaints on it before you buy.

2008-09-20 21:45:00 Author: Mark D. Stroyer Posts: 632

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EDIT: Thanks so much guys I have my answer and everything is sorted. So much thanks guys I am struggling to explain. I don't need anymore posts guys but thanks much people. Right, I am seriously confused. People say that some 1080i tvs cant run 720p games unless they downscale it to 480p which isn't hd blah blah blah. Thanks, Will. That happened for my ps3... To get the games running at their highest quality for a 1080i tv, you first manually set you display settings on the ps3 for 720p. Then save. Then go back and now tick the 1080i box aswell as the 720p box clicked before and save.Then it should work!

2008-09-20 22:05:00 Author: TheArmedReaper Posts: 1543

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That happened for my ps3... To get the games running at their highest quality for a 1080i tv, you first manually set you display settings on the ps3 for 720p. Then save. Then go back and now tick the 1080i box aswell as the 720p box clicked before and save.Then it should work! You running component cables? I use HDMI, so it did that all automatically. (I checked the manual settings afterwards to make sure and they were right on, so I left them at automatic just if I need to move it sometime.)

2008-09-20 22:07:00 Author: Mark D. Stroyer Posts: 632

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You running component cables? I use HDMI, so it did that all automatically. (I checked the manual settings afterwards to make sure and they were right on, so I left them at automatic just if I need to move it sometime.) No... I use a hdmi cable... it's just that that manually fixing fixes a 1080i 50 frames per second up a 60 frames per second...

2008-09-20 22:13:00 Author: TheArmedReaper Posts: 1543

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