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The Grief Relief Team

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We have all noticed the growing trend of unwanted/offensive pics that are uploaded to a creators' level. So a couple of us brainstormed and came up with the idea of having a Grief Relief Team Group (http://www.lbpcentral.com/forums/group.php?groupid=202) here on LBPC.

So how does this work you might ask? It's simple really.

Step 1: You notice you have some offensive/unwanted pics uploaded on a level you worked really hard on - how rude!

Step 2: Why spend all that time trying to upload new pics yourself when others can do it for you? Send a PM to any one of our faithful members in this format:

1. PSN
2. Level Name
3. Date of your request
4. Type of offensive/unwanted pics

PLEASE DO NOT POST REQUESTS IN THIS THREAD.

Step 3: The Grief Relief team member will then post your request on our group page. The team will first check out your level to be sure that there really is offensive/unwanted pics. If there is, then we have a go on our mission! If we think there is no reason to replace any of your pics, then the mission is deemed a 'false alarm.'

Step 4: If we have a go on our mission, we will play your level and upload pics that do justice to your level. If we eventually get enough members on the Grief Relief Team, this should be a quick and routine op!

Step 5: Once the mission is complete, a group member will post on the Grief Relief Team group page that it is complete and that group member will also PM you to confirm our success.

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So who do you contact if you have unwanted/offensive uploaded pics? Here is a list of our members that you can PM (I will update regularly). Anyone who wants to become a member is welcome! The more members the better! In fact, if you become a member, let us know by posting in this thread.

- Powershifter
- Babydoll1970
- Burnvictim42
- Drakon136
- Manny_wtk
- Foofles
- Adlingtont
- ScoutsBoo
- KoRnDawwg
- KernelM
- Ungreth
- Rseah
- LittleBigSackBoy
- TheMarvelousHat
- Spider-Jew
- vOrtex
- Zwollie
- FreeFlyzz
- Frinklebumper
- Astrosimi
- Mod5.0

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What our group WILL NOT tolerate:

1. Offensive uploaded pics by the creator simply to gain more plays - if any group member has knowledge or reasonable suspicion of this, we will then decline our services to that creator permanently. That decision is ultimately up to the Grief Relief team members. If this becomes a regular problem, I [Powershifter] will keep an unpublicized list of those people and will notify the group if that person tries to use our services again.

2. We do not ask for the PSN's of the people who vandalized any level. If we happen to find out who that person was, we need to keep that information to PM's only. We are not here to single anyone out or ruin their reputation.

3. I feel this needs to be stated clearly: Our purpose is NOT to go after spammers/griefers. We are simply an organized 'Clean Up' team.

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If Mm ever gives us the option to delete/accept uploaded photos from other players, this group will then be closed. But until then, we will work hard to give you the uploaded pics you deserve

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Special Thanks:

- Babydoll1970 - Thanks for the idea and for helping me develop this group
- Manny_wtk - Thanks for coming up with the group name 		2009-10-07 17:32:00

Author:
Powershifter
Posts: 668

Great idea! I love that your focused on the photos and not the offenders. I think it will be a very useful resource for creators who have this problem. Thanks guys and gal 2009-10-07 17:39:00

Author:
Morgana25
Posts: 5983

You said post... so i'm posting Hopefully there aren't too many griefers out there in that little big world, but theres nothing we shouldnt be able to solve working together 2009-10-07 17:46:00

Author:
Burnvictim42
Posts: 3322

I'd love to help but I don't even know how photo uploading works in the first place.2009-10-07 17:48:00

Author:
Foofles
Posts: 2278

if you become a member, let us know by posting in this thread.

Well, I joined.		2009-10-07 18:26:00

Author:
Drakora
Posts: 392

I'd love to help but I don't even know how photo uploading works in the first place.

Good question! It's not too hard. Just take pic like normal, then go to your sticker menu, all the way over to your photos until you see the one you just took. Press triangle (I believe.. whatever button gives you 'more info&apos. Then select 'Upload Photo' and after a little bit your photo will be uploaded on the level you took it from. Once the photo is uploaded on the creator's level, you can delete it from your popit, and it will stay uploaded on their level. Also, when viewing people's uploaded photos on a level, you can press the square button to sift through all of the photos.

I'm not sure how many uploaded photos will stay saved on a person's level, but I think it might be around 10 or so? But I do know that only the most recent 10 photos are displayed, which is why the Good Grief Team can go in and upload some pics until all of the unwanted pics are gone.

So, now that you know what you're doing, go ahead and join the team! 		2009-10-07 18:38:00

Author:
Powershifter
Posts: 668

I usually prefer a Gatling Shotgun and napalm explosives, but I think this is a good idea, especially for filtering out those pesky inappropriate photos. I'll help.

2009-10-07 18:45:00

Author:
KoRnDawwg
Posts: 1424

Good luck with this - it's an excellent idea and very good of you to do it. I'll definately help where I can. Thank you.2009-10-07 18:45:00

Author:
MrsSpookyBuz
Posts: 1492

I've had some good questions on how to join the group. Basically, just go to the group and click on 'join', and when I see a new person has joined I will update this thread. Also, after you join the group, go ahead and tell us the good news by posting in this thread! Here's the link that will direct you to the group:

Join The Grief Relief Team (http://www.lbpcentral.com/forums/group.php?groupid=202)

Thanks 		2009-10-07 18:49:00

Author:
Powershifter
Posts: 668

Count me in then thanks for the great explanation!2009-10-07 19:16:00

Author:
Foofles
Posts: 2278

I've joined 2009-10-07 19:19:00

Author:
adlingtont
Posts: 321

This ... is quite cool. 2009-10-07 20:23:00

Author:
Jagrevi
Posts: 1154

Manny_wtk suggested that our team should have an image for our sig, but unfortunately neither one of us has the capabilities to create custom images. Could someone possibly do this for us?2009-10-07 20:44:00

Author:
Powershifter
Posts: 668

I've got photoshop - what are you looking for? message me 2009-10-07 21:09:00

Author:
Morgana25
Posts: 5983

You could always make a logo in LBP itself.

But can one upload pics using the PS3 onto an image-hosting site?		2009-10-07 21:15:00

Author:
SLS10
Posts: 1129

yes you can - just upload the photo to your HD then use a flash drive to transfer the photo from your HD to your computer then you can upload to photobucket or similar site.2009-10-07 21:18:00

Author:
Morgana25
Posts: 5983

Count me in, I'll be glad to help out.2009-10-07 21:23:00

Author:
Ungreth
Posts: 2130

I would like to join the team2009-10-07 22:00:00

Author:
Spider-Jew
Posts: 1090

I'll be a member. Sounds like a good cause! 2009-10-07 22:02:00

Author:
Frinklebumper
Posts: 941

If you want to join the group, don't forget to actually go to the group and join This link will direct you to our group page (http://www.lbpcentral.com/forums/group.php?groupid=202)

Thanks! 		2009-10-07 22:34:00

Author:
Powershifter
Posts: 668

great idea im in2009-10-07 23:08:00

Author:
rseah
Posts: 2701

Chucking in ideas for the logo here...sackboy ninjas/soldiers with cameras...it looks better in my head but I can't show you what's in there! *exposes brain* You see it? You see it?2009-10-08 00:01:00

Author:
adlingtont
Posts: 321

Chucking in ideas for the logo here...sackboy ninjas/soldiers with cameras...it looks better in my head but I can't show you what's in there! *exposes brain* You see it? You see it?

Yep. That's an awesome idea. Make that one!		2009-10-08 00:49:00

Author:
BabyDoll1970
Posts: 1567

Can I join the group?
Also, you should make a social group for the team.		2009-10-08 00:59:00

Author:
Mod5.0
Posts: 1576

I've had some good questions on how to join the group. Basically, just go to the group and click on 'join', and when I see a new person has joined I will update this thread. Also, after you join the group, go ahead and tell us the good news by posting in this thread! Here's the link that will direct you to the group:

Join The Grief Relief Team (http://www.lbpcentral.com/forums/group.php?groupid=202)

Thanks

Hi there - social group already exists, so please feel free to join us ; )		2009-10-08 01:03:00

Author:
BabyDoll1970
Posts: 1567

Great idea... although I disagree with trying to keep said offenders names private. I think they should be "outted" and made to feel ashamed of their actions. 2009-10-08 01:06:00

Author:
Rustbukkit
Posts: 1737

Great idea... although I disagree with trying to keep said offenders names private. I think they should be "outted" and made to feel ashamed of their actions.

As much as I would like to agree with you, it just goes against what I feel is right. I'd rather we not hand out scarlet letters to people because it would simply discourage them from using this site, and that's not what the team was made for. I see where you're coming from, I'm just trying to explain why it was decided this way. Thanks 		2009-10-08 01:11:00

Author:
Powershifter
Posts: 668

Great idea... although I disagree with trying to keep said offenders names private. I think they should be "outted" and made to feel ashamed of their actions.

Hahaha! That does not surprise me in the least! You even SOUND like my brother : ) Maybe one day i'll quietly slip you a list and you can go after them with your paint gun? Ooops... quick... Powershifter's coming - act normal *whistles*

Actually I agree with keeping it private. I think if enough people are on the look out and we see the same offenders (and it's hard to prove who actually uploaded when a group is involved) there are other ways it can be dealt with. In the meantime, someone (I think it may have been Morgana) said it's not worth giving them the attention.		2009-10-08 01:50:00

Author:
BabyDoll1970
Posts: 1567

I would love to join. Sounds like a wonderful idea. 2009-10-08 02:04:00

Author:
FreeFlyzz
Posts: 265

Ooops... quick... Powershifter's coming - act normal *whistles*

LOL!!!


In the meantime, someone (I think it may have been Morgana) said it's not worth giving them the attention.

You are correct!

@ FreeFlyzz - Awesome! Just click here and join (http://www.lbpcentral.com/forums/group.php?groupid=202)! 		2009-10-08 02:11:00

Author:
Powershifter
Posts: 668

I'm such a noob, I dont know how to upload pictures in the first place. D:2009-10-08 02:34:00

Author:
TheMarvelousHat
Posts: 542

Good question! It's not too hard. Just take pic like normal, then go to your sticker menu, all the way over to your photos until you see the one you just took. Press triangle (I believe.. whatever button gives you 'more info&apos. Then select 'Upload Photo' and after a little bit your photo will be uploaded on the level you took it from. Once the photo is uploaded on the creator's level, you can delete it from your popit, and it will stay uploaded on their level. Also, when viewing people's uploaded photos on a level, you can press the square button to sift through all of the photos.

I'm not sure how many uploaded photos will stay saved on a person's level, but I think it might be around 10 or so? But I do know that only the most recent 10 photos are displayed, which is why the Good Grief Team can go in and upload some pics until all of the unwanted pics are gone.

So, now that you know what you're doing, go ahead and join the team!

@ TheMarvelousHat - Good question.. hope that helped!		2009-10-08 02:39:00

Author:
Powershifter
Posts: 668

Yuss! Thank you!
I'll join. 		2009-10-08 02:58:00

Author:
TheMarvelousHat
Posts: 542

Hahaha! That does not surprise me in the least! You even SOUND like my brother : ) Maybe one day i'll quietly slip you a list and you can go after them with your paint gun? Ooops... quick... Powershifter's coming - act normal *whistles*

Actually I agree with keeping it private. I think if enough people are on the look out and we see the same offenders (and it's hard to prove who actually uploaded when a group is involved) there are other ways it can be dealt with. In the meantime, someone (I think it may have been Morgana) said it's not worth giving them the attention.

YOU PEOPLE are TOO SOFT!!!

http://www.interney.net/blogs/media/blogs/melhoresdomundo/hartman.jpg


2009-10-08 03:42:00

Author:
Rustbukkit
Posts: 1737

YOU PEOPLE are TOO SOFT!!!

http://www.interney.net/blogs/media/blogs/melhoresdomundo/hartman.jpg




Weren't you ever taught it's RUDE to POINT?		2009-10-08 05:19:00

Author:
BabyDoll1970
Posts: 1567

Great idea! I just joined. Lemme know when the bat-signal is a-shinin'

2009-10-08 05:24:00

Author:
v0rtex
Posts: 1878

YOU PEOPLE are TOO SOFT!!!

http://www.interney.net/blogs/media/blogs/melhoresdomundo/hartman.jpg




I don't think it's a matter of "soft". Really, what purpose would it serve other than to cause trouble for the offenders and eventually the people out for "payback"? Flaming them in LBP or on a site will only get the poster into trouble so where's the positive to taking a contributing valuable member of the LBP community (one of you lot) and getting them into trouble (bans, silencing, or other kinds of "payback" from groups of offenders) if you begin to harass, call out, and generally fuel the flames of outrage in the community against these repeat offenders?

These guys will feed off the negative attention and notoriety at best and continue to do what they do or the person calling them out may be hurt in the process in one of the ways I listed above at worst.

It's just not worth it. (calling them out)

So yea, not soft - just keeping the peace without threat to the constructive members of the community would be how I'm looking at this. I like the way Powershifter has organized this putting the emphasis on dealing with the photos in question. I think it's a noble cause and a service that is useful because of the way MM has the photo posting set up.		2009-10-08 08:29:00

Author:
Morgana25
Posts: 5983

yeah there is no point in doing this2009-10-08 08:33:00

Author:
rseah
Posts: 2701

YOU PEOPLE are TOO SOFT!!!

http://www.interney.net/blogs/media/blogs/melhoresdomundo/hartman.jpg




I'm sure you were only kidding

@ vOrtex - I love the idea of the bat signal lol if only we could do that... 		2009-10-08 13:54:00

Author:
Powershifter
Posts: 668

Ok, this is an awesome idea. Count me in!!2009-10-08 13:56:00

Author:
Zwollie
Posts: 2173

I'm sure you were only kidding

@ vOrtex - I love the idea of the bat signal lol if only we could do that...

Indeed I was, thus all the 's.

Although I have to admit that I do feel people should be held accountable for their actions... especially where crude pictures on a family rated forum or game are concerned. I hope at the least, that the team will be PM'ing said offenders and letting them know that what they are doing is not appreciated and is hurting the creators of the levels they are uploading the pics to. 		2009-10-08 19:41:00

Author:
Rustbukkit
Posts: 1737

Indeed I was, thus all the 's.

Although I have to admit that I do feel people should be held accountable for their actions... especially where crude pictures on a family rated forum or game are concerned. I hope at the least, that the team will be PM'ing said offenders and letting them know that what they are doing is not appreciated and is hurting the creators of the levels they are uploading the pics to.

You light the bonfire, I'll grab the pitchforks. 		2009-10-08 20:39:00

Author:
Ungreth
Posts: 2130

You light the bonfire, I'll grab the pitchforks.

Ogre's do have layers you know


Hey, thanks for everyone's participation and support! We now have 18 members and it's only been about a day and a half! So everyone please check your uploaded photos for offensive/unwanted material - the team is ready for some action Spread the word!		2009-10-09 14:21:00

Author:
Powershifter
Posts: 668

I'll get right on it. In a half hour.2009-10-22 23:31:00

Author:
Drakora
Posts: 392

I'm on the job!2009-10-23 05:45:00

Author:
v0rtex
Posts: 1878

Good sir, this is a stroke of unparalleled genius.

Can I get in on the "fun"? I'd be glad to help out creators in distress.		2009-10-23 23:23:00

Author:
Astrosimi
Posts: 2046

Sure. The group is open for all to join.
Also, Art_of_Tyler, the problem has been taken care of.		2009-10-23 23:32:00

Author:
Drakora
Posts: 392

Some one spammed uploaded a plain grey texture picture on my level "Ancient Burning City". I would upload my own pictures.. but then that kind of defeats the fun of seeing what other people upload..

So, may I ask that some of you guys to go through and upload some nice pictures?
Plus I think you will like the level as you are playing too

Obviously what this person did, isn't offensive.. but it is annoying.

I'm very glad that we could be of service to you! However, for future reference, and to anyone else reading, please send your grief relief requests to me or any one of our team members through PM, rather than posting them on this thread. Thanks!


Good sir, this is a stroke of unparalleled genius.

Can I get in on the "fun"? I'd be glad to help out creators in distress.

Well I can't take all the credit! It was definitely a collaborative effort. I just happened to be the one who did the initial post You are certainly welcome to join our growing team. Just head over to our group page (http://www.lbpcentral.com/forums/group.php?groupid=202) and click on 'join'. Once I see you've joined, I'll add you to the list on the first post of this thread. Thanks again!		2009-10-29 20:17:00

Author:
Powershifter
Posts: 668

I just needed to let everyone know that I am back! Several weeks ago my PS3 died, but now I finally have a working PS3, and I am ready to relieve some grief So feel free to PM any one of our members to make a grief relief request!2009-12-14 14:59:00

Author:
Powershifter
Posts: 668

I joined the group yesterday. I feel like one of the ghost busters now. 2010-01-23 22:01:00

Author:
IStwisted
Posts: 428

I don't mind joining. I think you need as much help as possible!2010-01-24 00:20:00

Author:
Pantyer2
Posts: 652

Thanks team for mobilizing yesterday for me. Much appreciated!2010-01-24 02:12:00

Author:
Morgana25
Posts: 5983

I was wondering if you guys could make the "wierd" tag disappear from my Sack's On The Beach and also Space Sack's Adventures. Any positive tag that was already huge and could replace it is fine.

tks all		2010-01-24 02:18:00

Author:
RangerZero
Posts: 3901

Thanks for the head up Ranger. This mission might take a bit longer; tags are not a easy to remove as pictures. I don't call the shots though, I'll get Powershifter and wait for commands.

EDIT: In retrospect, I'm not sure about this one. A "weird" tag isn't exactly the same as pictures of male privates on your level's page. It's not something that's considered "griefing". What people think of your level through a pre-established system is not something we take care of (In my opinion). It's, in my view, like saying that your level is rated 2 stars; sure, it's bad, but who are we to raise you to 5 stars? It might be good, but that isn't what we're for. We're not a booster club, we're crime-fighters; no offense.

Sorry lad. But whatever, I haven't played those levels, so I will and I'll support the cause.		2010-01-24 03:03:00

Author:
Astrosimi
Posts: 2046

Yeah I know.. :/

We need to enter and re-tag the level multiple times. Well, thats why I suggest to choose the highest positive tag next to "wierd". I'll go and help it by myself too.		2010-01-24 03:09:00

Author:
RangerZero
Posts: 3901

To be honest.I wouldn't be bothered about tags. Other than the "Rubbish" one. To me, weird is a compliment! 2010-01-24 13:06:00

Author:
Pantyer2
Posts: 652

Oh, I thought for some reason that you were helping with pictures and tags. No worries then, If i'd really really want the tag to disappear I could do it myself I suppose.2010-01-24 16:49:00

Author:
RangerZero
Posts: 3901

To be honest.I wouldn't be bothered about tags. Other than the "Rubbish" one. To me, weird is a compliment!

Same here. What's so wrong with the weird tag? It 's a great achievement IMO.		2010-01-24 17:41:00

Author:
Ungreth
Posts: 2130

"Weird" is what i strive for. 2010-01-25 05:03:00

Author:
IStwisted
Posts: 428

Looks like I am great because I have at least 2 levels with the "Weird" tag. lol
I also always get "tricky" but I like this one.		2010-01-25 15:00:00

Author:
RangerZero
Posts: 3901

I need your help to get rid of some offensive pictures that have just appeared on 2 of my levels if you're still active please.

They're on 'PLASMAVILLE' and my latest level 'LBN: Tale of the Sea contest: Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea'.

Thanks.		2010-04-14 15:54:00

Author:
mistervista
Posts: 2210

I've played and enjoyed both those levels. I'm not a GR member, but I am a fan. I'll post a pic or two to get things started.2010-04-14 15:58:00

Author:
4wheel
Posts: 511

My new level has been getting bad pictures too.
I think someones going around cool pages and just doing it for no reason.
Ive seen it on a few levels, its a shame people feel the need to do it, selfish people.		2010-04-14 16:00:00

Author:
Fenderjt
Posts: 1969

Can I join teh Grief Relief team?

This thread is kind of old so I'm guessing a lot of people in the group have quit now...		2010-04-14 16:14:00

Author:
Doopz
Posts: 5592

I think rather than riling up some posse to be called on at any time, this thread should be used exactly as MisterVista has done above. If you notice that someone's level is being spammed, just help them out for the sake of being helpful, not because you belong to some team. That way, there are no obligations.

2010-04-14 16:19:00

Author:
comphermc
Posts: 5338

Why spend all that time trying to upload new pics yourself when others can do it for you?

Just thought I'd point out that sometimes uploading pictures yourself is the only practical way to get rid of unwanted photos, although it's very rare.

Due to a 'feature' of the LBP photo system, it's not always possible to clear out unwanted pictures unless you're the creator of the level. As I posted previously (https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=25066-Level-Pictures&p=433898#post433898)...


The rules are pretty much like this:-


The pictures displayed will be either all the photos, or a subset of all the photos (up to a maximum of ten) taken by any player while playing that level, and subsequently uploaded to the server.
It doesn't matter what level you're playing, if any, when you upload a photo, it will always be associated with the level in which it was taken.
Photos will appear in descending order of the PS3's system time at the point where the photo was taken, so setting your system time to a point in the future will allow you to keep that photo nearer to the front of the list for longer. This is how those people who always appear on in the first photo in the story levels always stay as the first photo on the list.
Photos taken by the creator of the level will always appear before any other photos.
You cannot delete a photo once uploaded (although it can and will be deleted by a moderator if they deem it necessary), but you can force a particular photo to no longer appear in the list by uploading enough new photos to push it out of the list. The photo will still be accessible by other means, however.


...so the only guaranteed way to ensure that people can't add unwanted photos is by the creator uploading ten themselves.

As I said, it's very rare that someone would go to the trouble of setting their system clock to a point in the future in order to post annoying photos on a community level (although it's happened on all the story levels), but I just thought it was worth knowing.		2010-04-14 16:21:00

Author:
Aya042
Posts: 2870

I've uploaded around 4 pictures onto 'PLASMAVILLE'. They haven't been uploaded just yet though.

As for 'LBN: Tale of the Sea contest: Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea' I didn't see anything that needs to be gotten rid of...		2010-04-14 16:47:00

Author:
Doopz
Posts: 5592

I've uploaded around 4 pictures onto 'PLASMAVILLE'. They haven't been uploaded just yet though.

As for 'LBN: Tale of the Sea contest: Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea' I didn't see anything that needs to be gotten rid of...

Thanks for that.

There were 4 on the 'Voyage' level. No idea why they didn't appear for you but I've just been into that one myself and uploaded a bunch of new photos anyway. They haven't updated for me yet though.		2010-04-14 17:00:00

Author:
mistervista
Posts: 2210

Sorry for the double post but they've done it again.

I've just logged on and they've uploaded 5 more to the 'Voyage' level and 6 on 'PLASMAVILLE'.

If the cowardly scumbag had any balls at all they'd identify themselves. I just hope it's no-one on this forum, that would be disappointing.

Anyway your help in removing these again would be appreciated and if anyone has any idea who it is please let me know.

Thanks.		2010-04-15 15:45:00

Author:
mistervista
Posts: 2210

Sorry for the double post but they've done it again.

I've just logged on and they've uploaded 5 more to the 'Voyage' level and 6 on 'PLASMAVILLE'.

If the cowardly scumbag had any balls at all they'd identify themselves. I just hope it's no-one on this forum, that would be disappointing.

Anyway your help in removing these again would be appreciated and if anyone has any idea who it is please let me know.

Thanks.

I uploaded 7 pictures on plasmavile and can I join the grief relief team? 		2010-04-15 15:56:00

Author:
Alec
Posts: 3871

can I join the grief relief team?

*Points towards CompherMC's previous post*

2010-04-15 17:23:00

Author:
Doopz
Posts: 5592

I think anyone who reads this thread should consider themselves part of the "team" as it were. I don't think you have to officially be on the team to help. If you see someone asking for help - take a few minutes and upload a pic or two. I know I really appreciated the service the two times I've had to call on the community for help.2010-04-15 17:26:00

Author:
Morgana25
Posts: 5983

comph's and Morgana's points are spot on.

But, if you do want to officially be a member of the Grief Relief Team, you can join by joining the group in the social groups. When other members catch wind of any need for assistance, the request is posted in the group discussion and Powershifter is pretty diligent about sending out messages to the team requesting help. The group is only as active as the requests are, so it isn't always busy.

It should be noted upfront that the group's purpose is not revenge, it is more of a cleanup and beautify type group. Spreading the love by wiping the hate. 		2010-04-15 17:45:00

Author:
ScoutsBoo
Posts: 63

They have now stepped up their campaign and posted yet more offensive pictures. They are now going round all my other levels too.

Some of them now say 'Euro Trash' which leads me to believe they are american/canadian and it's looking more and more likely they are a memeber on this forum because as soon as there is a post saying someone has uploaded some decent photos they are there putting the bad ones up again.		2010-04-15 23:02:00

Author:
mistervista
Posts: 2210

Can people please help out mrv. More and more of his levels are getting these nasty pictures uploaded to them. Help!2010-04-15 23:05:00

Author:
mrsvista
Posts: 755

I'm so sorry this is happening mrv.

Rhy has just turned on the PS3, on his way to upload some pics for you.

Icey		2010-04-15 23:12:00

Author:
IceMaiden
Posts: 1057

This same person has uploaded the same pics onto my one and only level too. Feel free to take some pics for me. Thanks in advance 2010-04-16 00:12:00

Author:
mrsvista
Posts: 755

Sorry to hear about all of this happening! I've uploaded some photos onto both the levels MrV mentioned. I noticed that Luos's most recent level has also got the same photos on it so I've added a couple there too. Now onto yours MrsV!

EDIT: MrsV's level seems to be OK again for now.		2010-04-16 00:17:00

Author:
shropshirelass
Posts: 1455

Fenderjt's level had a few as well.

This is madness.... I hope whoever this is, is banned and also kicked in the face...		2010-04-16 00:21:00

Author:
Doopz
Posts: 5592

Time to turn on the PS3 once more. You can expect me to upload some.2010-04-16 00:34:00

Author:
Astrosimi
Posts: 2046

I've now got them on every single level !

My only option now is to lock my levels.

Thanks to everyone who has helped/is helping.

I just don't understand why Sony can't make it impossible to upload photos anonymously.		2010-04-16 00:37:00

Author:
mistervista
Posts: 2210

My only option now is to lock my levels.

Either that or upload ten pictures yourself. It's perhaps an extreme course of action, but any pictures uploaded by the creator will always appear before anyone else's.		2010-04-16 01:13:00

Author:
Aya042
Posts: 2870

I think rather than riling up some posse to be called on at any time, this thread should be used exactly as MisterVista has done above. If you notice that someone's level is being spammed, just help them out for the sake of being helpful, not because you belong to some team. That way, there are no obligations.



You know, we're actually already a (social) group and have been for quite some time - seems to be working well and we've helped out quite a few people with these problems. In case you didn't know, that's all. No-one's obligated of course but people do their bit.

I didn't realise this thread was still running. I thought we were just dealing with issues over in the Social group :/ But hey, that's cool.

Mistervista.. I uploaded a ton of pics onto three of your levels this afternoon. What an idiot that guy is... I loved your Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea level. Great stuff and visually wonderful! Someone's obviously jealous Good luck with the comp.
I have to say that uploading 10 pics on that switch for comphermc level was a challenge (to get some variety, I mean) but hopefully the bad pic is now gone. I'll check again when I get the chance. How did you get the lights to dim there? It was fabulous!		2010-04-16 07:33:00

Author:
BabyDoll1970
Posts: 1567

Either that or upload ten pictures yourself. It's perhaps an extreme course of action, but any pictures uploaded by the creator will always appear before anyone else's.

I've been doing that but unfortunately it's not possible to eliminate them all if you have more than 10 levels ( I have the full 20 ) as you can only have 100 pictures stored at any one time so to upload 10 pictures on each level means you can only cover 10 levels. Upload 1 more picture and your first 1 is deleted.



Mistervista.. I uploaded a ton of pics onto three of your levels this afternoon. What an idiot that guy is... I loved your Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea level. Great stuff and visually wonderful! Someone's obviously jealous Good luck with the comp.
I have to say that uploading 10 pics on that switch for comphermc level was a challenge (to get some variety, I mean) but hopefully the bad pic is now gone. I'll check again when I get the chance. How did you get the lights to dim there? It was fabulous!

Thanks babydoll, I appreciate that. I've locked every level but 'Voyage' now as I have to leave that open for the contest.

As for the lights dimming I simply attached a mag key and mag switch set to speed. At least I think I did ! I'm not good with logic and tend to make things up as I go along lol.

By the way they have uploaded more offensive photos again since last night on my 'Voyage' level. They've obviously got nothing better to do and must be sick in the head.

They've also uploaded the same ones on mrsvista's only level and some of Fender's levels.

I think we really need to get an official petition together and send it to Sony asking them to change the system. They must be aware of the problem and it can't be that difficult for them to fix it. It just needs lots of us to keep complaining until they do something. I have emailed them several times in the past when this was happening to other people but they aren't going to listen to just me. I have also messaged Sam and Spaff. Get with me people and let's get Sony to fix it !!		2010-04-16 11:56:00

Author:
mistervista
Posts: 2210

I'm not sure, but doesn't the game select a random group of photos that show up for your level each time? Or am I wrong? It'd work fine if there was a photo limit or something.2010-04-16 12:08:00

Author:
Unknown User

I got a 'You Suck' pic on mine yesterday. And fair play to him, he was standing right above it. I was more offended by the fact he did at the END of the level, lol.2010-04-16 12:17:00

Author:
julesyjules
Posts: 1156

Hi, my new level Dual Shock has been ATTACKED! Sorry to hear about your levels Mistervista and others, i know how it feels. My Malibu level got it so bad i was tempted to lock it to but i just left it and eventually it got covered with good pics.
I am getting the sticker "Euro trash" on my new level too. Its soooo stupid! I feel like turning into a mum and banging their heads together telling them to PACK IT IN!
Thank you to those who have helped cover most of them up!		2010-04-16 12:35:00

Author:
Fenderjt
Posts: 1969

Just to add that two of Luos's levels are also being targeted by the same people. I've uploaded some photos but not enough to get rid of all the bad ones.

It's funny because at the same time I also uploaded some to mistervista's Voyage level and they don't seem to have shown up or else they've already been replaced by more bad ones! Keep trying, I guess! Great level BTW, mistervista - the pancake and the desk lamp which switches on just made my evening, lol!		2010-04-16 12:39:00

Author:
shropshirelass
Posts: 1455

I've been doing that but unfortunately it's not possible to eliminate them all if you have more than 10 levels ( I have the full 20 ) as you can only have 100 pictures stored at any one time so to upload 10 pictures on each level means you can only cover 10 levels. Upload 1 more picture and your first 1 is deleted.

That's a shame. I wasn't aware there was a total photo limit per person. Still, at least it's a viable option for mrsvista who I believe only has one published level.

In your case, the best option might be to upload five per level to minimize the chance of the latter five being seen by anyone else.

For those who are kind enough to help out, note that you can keep your photos nearer the start of the list by setting your PS3's system clock into the future before taking the photo, but be aware of this problem (http://forums.littlebigworkshop.com/t5/General-Discussion/Time-Bug-Help-P/m-p/231485) if you decide to do this...


Well, after setting my time to 2100, playing a few hundred thousand levels, I decided to reset my time back to normal, so now, my recently played list wont budge anymore because it thinks i've played these levels in the future, which is more then now(lol). Also, my users ive played with list wont move either. Anyway to fix this?

...so maybe don't set the clock too far into the future.




I just don't understand why Sony can't make it impossible to upload photos anonymously.

I'm not sure why this is an issue. Photos aren't really uploaded anonymously. Even if there's no-one in the photo, the PSN ID of the user who took the photo is still logged when the photo is uploaded, so if the photo is reported via the Good Grief! system (assuming that's possible), it should be possible for the moderators to remove the photo, and take further action against the user who uploaded it, if they deem it necessary.

I don't know how effective the LBP moderation system actually is, but we certainly don't want to be encouraging the community to be taking revenge against those who are uploading the inappropriate pictures.		2010-04-16 13:05:00

Author:
Aya042
Posts: 2870

Just checked your Voyage level mrv and there is one offensive picture on there.

I also checked my own levels and sadly they too have been targeted, the same pictures have been used.
There are offensive pictures on Rise of the Snow Queen, Caverns of the Snow Queen, Sun, sea and Stardance the dolphin and Save Moby.

If it is someone on the forum can I ask what was wrong with The Frog Chorus, wasn't that good enough for offensive pictures?

I can't help but wonder if it's only members of LBPC with this problem. I can't be bothered to check loads of levels from non members personally but it does seem strange that mrv, mrsv and myself have been chosen for this ridiculous campaign since it's no secret that we are friends. Well whatever it is we have done to upset the numpty with the happy snappy trigger finger, I hope it gives them lots of satisfaction. It makes me sad to see peoples dedicated work trashed, but I really can't be bothered, the whole thing is a farce.

Icey		2010-04-16 13:49:00

Author:
IceMaiden
Posts: 1057

At least you're getting some more plays, right?

It may seem silly, but just let it go. Anyone who is versed in the world of LittleBigPlanet knows that the author has no control over which pictures are uploaded. I would just laugh at the silliness of it all, thank that person for the extra play, and gad on merrily with my day.

At the end of the day, if the level does get moderated, it's an excuse for a fresh start. Your level would get a new life and it may garner a few plays that wouldn't have happened otherwise. Plays and hearts gone? No worries. They are not all too important after all.

2010-04-16 14:02:00

Author:
comphermc
Posts: 5338

That’s right, it will only get to you if you make a big deal out of it… and this seems like a big deal to me. You wont really achieve much doing this, it’ll probably just bug you more… best to just try and ignore it.

If there is any highly offensive pictures your not happy about, just upload ten photos of your self on your own levels. But that will just probably start a picture uploading war on your level or some other rubbish like that.
It has happened to some friends levels, just constantly uploading bad pic’s. It just seems people do it to annoy you… and if you let them, they wont stop any time soon.
Best to be the bigger man (or gal) and just walk away XD

Oh and a level will never get moderated based on a photo taken in it, just based on the things in the level. So if the content of the photo is produced by the person uploading it… like something written out with stickers for example, then the level should be okay.		2010-04-16 15:03:00

Author:
oLMCo
Posts: 96

I uploaded some pictures on voyage, so the bad ones will probably be gone soon
edit: I just uploaded some pictures on mrsvista's level so the bad pictures will be gone soon
edit2:I did the same on fenderjt's level		2010-04-16 15:09:00

Author:
Alec
Posts: 3871

Seems I am now targeted also. The same pictures. At present only my Aquarium level has been hit.
I'm also starting to wonder if its someone from the forum.
Seems specific people are being targeted.		2010-04-16 15:28:00

Author:
Lady_Luck__777
Posts: 3458

I've uploaded 8 pictures on your level lady luck, so the bad pictures is soon gone 2010-04-16 15:50:00

Author:
Alec
Posts: 3871

Did I suddenly become invisible.2010-04-16 15:59:00

Author:
IceMaiden
Posts: 1057

Thanks to all who have helped everyone in this thread.

This is ridiculous. CrazeAlec has now been attacked on his level too.

@ Icey- Never invisible. Will head to your levels asap.		2010-04-16 16:05:00

Author:
Lady_Luck__777
Posts: 3458

Thanks to all who have helped everyone in this thread.

This is ridiculous. CrazeAlec has now been attacked on his level too.

@ Icey- Never invisible. Will head to your levels asap.

OK, now I'm getting really mad at this guy, I'm pretty sure he is on lbpc because he only upload pictures on people levels from lbpc.		2010-04-16 16:13:00

Author:
Alec
Posts: 3871

OK, now I'm getting really mad at this guy, I'm pretty sure he is on lbpc because he only upload pictures on people levels from lbpc.

More specifically, whoever it is seems to be mostly targeting people who've posted to this thread, as it seems one of my levels has now had the same thing happen to it. So it's clearly nothing to do with a level's popularity, since none of mine are proper levels really.

I've just submitted a Good Grief! report. I'll see if this has any effect or not, but if everyone else were to do the same, I'm sure the perpetrator will soon have his PSN account blocked.		2010-04-16 16:25:00

Author:
Aya042
Posts: 2870

@Everyone...been doing some investigative analysis into this issue. At the time the most recent pics were uploaded, there were 2 LBPC members and a MOD viewing this thread, and 3 visitors. The 2 members were targets of the uploaded pics, so we can rule them out, and it is obviously not the MOD. That leaves the 3 visitors, which have 3 unique IP addresses for the computers they used to view this thread. It's just a matter of time to determine which IP it is (if you can see where I'm going with this Aya042) based on timestamps and a reoccurring IP address. So, to the "visitor" who is viewing this thread to obtain information for people to target, your childish behavior might well result in repercussions you never expected. My advice is to find another way to amuse yourself...possibly play some of the great levels by the creators of this site. Oh...forgot 1 thing, Play Station Network also has your PSN ID and IP address, and they aren't very tolerant, which could cause you to be banned from PSN. Something to consider before you pull another prank on individuals who have very strong ties with Sony.2010-04-16 16:34:00

Author:
RickRock_777
Posts: 1567

Sorry for double post, but this is new info...It appears I have been included among this illustriuos group of creators (looking at this from a positive perspective ). Sadly, it is often difficult, if not impossible, to reason with troubled individuals. But I did notice some initials on one of the pics which read differently viewing them right side up vs. upside down--thanks for the tip. o.O2010-04-16 18:10:00

Author:
RickRock_777
Posts: 1567

Strangely, although I had not posted on this thread before, I have also been targetted.. which I find quite baffling!

Those of you who know me also know I don't muck about with stupidity, so I will be posting the following e-mail to Sony as follows..
Dear Sirs

My PSN account: Rhyfelwr

Recently, there are a number of Little Big Planet creators who appear to be subject to a grudge attack from one or more persons. These attacks are in the form of several extremely offensive and graphic images being uploaded onto the creators levels. The attacker has been careful not to include themselves within the image, under the misapprehension that their activity has not been logged automatically, regardless of whether they physically appear or not.

The PSN of the creators being attacked over the past 2 days are as follows:

mistervista
mrsvista
lady_luck__777
RickRock_777
Fenderjt
IceMaiden
Rhyfelwr
luos_desruc
CANDY_KING_ALEC
Aya042

Unfortunately, we cannot trace the source of the attacks and are therefore unable to reason with the individual(s) concerned. The only plausible evidence we have is the relationship with users on www.lbpcentral.com (http://www.lbpcentral.com).

I understand that you receive many such complaints, but on this occasion, the effects are far-reaching and affect numerous innocent and well respected PSN users.

I understand that, under the PEGI age rating system, you have an obligation to enforce, as far as is reasonably possible, the ongoing suitability of the 7+ rating of the game.

If no action is taken to discover the identity of the perpetrators and enforce the games' age restrictions, I will have no choice but to approach PEGI directly and escalate this further.

I look forward to your prompt response.

Kind regards



************************

I would strongly recommend that the individual concerned take note of this and consider their current situation very carefully.

@comphermc - I am quite surprised by your lack of sincerity, considering the position in this forum you have. I would have thought you would have recognised that several creators are highly passionate about their work and the suggestion to "let them be moderated" and "start over" is, in my opinion, highly irresponsible.

Rhyfelwr		2010-04-16 18:52:00

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Rhyfelwr
Posts: 606

Some good points raised there. Well done RickRock and Rhyfelwr.

I'm sorry to hear that you and others are now on the receiving end too. I have played and uploaded some photos to your levels a couple of hours ago and will keep an eye on things and upload more if necessary. That goes for anyone else that needs help too.		2010-04-16 19:18:00

Author:
mistervista
Posts: 2210

I am quite surprised by your lack of sincerity, considering the position in this forum you have. I would have thought you would have recognised that several creators are highly passionate about their work and the suggestion to "let them be moderated" and "start over" is, in my opinion, highly irresponsible.

In comphy's defense, I think his motivation for this comment is to avoid one of the things which CCubbage mentioned in his Consideration (https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=25223-Consideration) post from happening again...


In the last few months, I've seen bad sportsmanship associated with site contests (here and related to other site's contests), people calling each other names (I've been called a few things I won't mention lately...), relentless and unhelpful showcase posts, calling kids stupid, threads encourgaging retaliation against specific PSN's (which are probably just young kids messing around), attacking MM employees with no proof of wrongdoing, calling people retarded, attacking the publishing practices of decent members here (by their actual PSN names).....

Hopefully a combination of Good Griefing and e-mailing Sony as you suggest will be far more effective than trying to track down the identities of those responsible, since, although difficult for us, it's incredibly trivial for them to find out who is responsible, and permanently block their access to the PlayStation Network.		2010-04-16 19:42:00

Author:
Aya042
Posts: 2870

@Rhy...thanks for following up with that email. Hopefully it will do some good and draw some attention to the issue.

@MrV...I noticed you uploaded some helpful pics to Takken--thanks! I will also be watching to help where I can.

Considering all the facts we have so far about this individual, I don't believe they are a child. Consider the pics they uploaded--a nice font, a fairly well crafted toilet, a variety of materials and colors used in the background, use of a camera...in other words, they did not haphazardly throw something together like a child or very young person would with limited focus. I would also deduce they are a creator and have been so for a period long enough that the "creator" part of their personna leaks through on a subconcious level--in other words, they considered visual aesthetics during the development process.

Just thinking out loud

Rick		2010-04-16 20:40:00

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RickRock_777
Posts: 1567

I haven't seen the uploaded pictures on my level, but in someway I've played a level (or seen them before) with same style on those pictures...
Im gonna good grief these pictures on my level.
.....................................

To the guy that uploads these pictures:
Just let us be and get a life, I know you will be reading this, what's the point of uploading these pictures?
Do you feel happy when you do it?
How do you think we feel, when we have put down, hours, days,weeks or even months on creating a level, and then you come and upload bad picture to it?
You better stop, before sony ban your IP.,,		2010-04-16 22:06:00

Author:
Alec
Posts: 3871

Well good morning, everybody! Rhy, if you haven't sent off your e-mail yet, can you please add my name to your list as a couple of my levels have been hit. I feel special now Maybe we need a "Crap Club"? Seeing as the membership has been growing quite rapidly

I'm not too bothered by it, to be honest, as my levels aren't exactly high profile (nor am I) so we'll get round to fixing it at some point and I may Good Grief the pics - if I am safe from having the levels moderated.

But I will keep swinging by the others when I can to upload more pics. They may be visitors on this forum, but they also may be getting our psns from the pics that are uploaded and not from here. However, seeing as they know of people like Rhy enough to put their unfortunate stamp on level albums, I'd wager they do visit here. Most of us post LBPC stickers somewhere in our levels, right?

This is the same mentality as kids who go round spray painting their 'tags' on people's property, as I've said before. Eventually people grow out of it and (hopefully) mature, so I'm not coming out with my pitchfork, however, I'll still keep doing what I can in the uploading department. He's one person - possibly two. We're many. *joins hands round the circle - requiring that some have to temporarily put down their pitchforks* 		2010-04-16 23:05:00

Author:
BabyDoll1970
Posts: 1567

@comphermc - I am quite surprised by your lack of sincerity, considering the position in this forum you have. I would have thought you would have recognised that several creators are highly passionate about their work and the suggestion to "let them be moderated" and "start over" is, in my opinion, highly irresponsible.


In comphy's defense, I think his motivation for this comment is to avoid one of the things which CCubbage mentioned in his Consideration (https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=25223-Consideration) post from happening again...

Indeed. I was actually very sincere. I think you may have gotten the impression that I was not being sympathetic, but you have misread my intentions.

There is a vast difference between being unsympathetic and searching for the positives in a highly negative situation. I assure you the former was not at all the case, and the latter was exactly what I was doing. It is clear that whoever is doing these things will continue to do so as long as it gets a rise out of the people they are doing it to. I relayed these sentiments to MisterVista outside of this thread, so my comment was more directed at him than anyone else. I'm not sure why this individual finds it necessary to antagonize others, but it's really of no consequence.

I do think that you guys should contact Sony through whatever channels possible, but in the meantime I wouldn't stress out over the images uploaded. As I stated before, you have no control over those images. Sure, you can upload more images and fight it out with this person, but I'm of the mind that that is exactly what he/she wants. Let them waste their time.

As for the moderation issue. It sucks. Sure, I'm fine with that. But...(but!)...backup your levels. If a level gets moderated, publish it again. Heck, someone who never played it the first time might see it up the servers and get to enjoy it themselves. The only thing besides the time it takes to publish again that will be lost is the record of all the plays and hearts accumulated on the original. At this point in the game (pun intended) these should mean very little to creators. I would gladly take one new person enjoying any of my levels over all the hearts it may have. I guess it's all down to what you value about your levels. Is it others enjoying them or is the recognition you get from them.

That was very much a digression, but I like to think of it as seeing the small positives amid a situation seemingly void of positives. It was my attempt to breathe a little consideration back into the whole ordeal. In that sense, Aya was right on the money.

Sorry you took it the wrong way.

-Comph		2010-04-16 23:51:00

Author:
comphermc
Posts: 5338

Comph, people react to bad situations differently and you should respect that. Mrs.SpookyBuz left the site because of her arguments with other members. In the same way, not everyone can just brush this under the rug. Mr.Vista had "Euro Trash" uploaded on his levels. It's more than immaturity, it's personal attacks and racism. Also, if a level gets moderated, a lot of the victims here would have to mass publish it over again and message their friends again about their level.

Edit: I know you definitely didn't mean to disrespect anyone, so apologizing was very sincere.

In regards to the consideration thread, I just think:

-We should all try to be sympathetic and respectful.
-We should let the kind grief relief team do its job and hope for the best.
-We shouldn't be too hateful towards the attacker(s), who is just another mindless, pitiable spammer.		2010-04-17 00:01:00

Author:
Incinerator22
Posts: 3251

Hey bud, not sure you even read what I said. I didn't say that what they did was acceptable.

That said, I too have the pictures on my levels. But... don't bother. I don't even care. 		2010-04-17 00:13:00

Author:
comphermc
Posts: 5338

I never said you said it was acceptable.

You're apologizing for him taking it the wrong way, but the way you worded it makes me imagine it could be easy for someone to take that the wrong way.		2010-04-17 00:17:00

Author:
Incinerator22
Posts: 3251

It's easy to take virtually anything the wrong way, depending on the attitude of the person reading the message. Happens to me quite a bit....

I seem to remember reading a while ago that MM doesn't moderate levels based on uploaded pictures... they just remove the pictures. I could be wrong, however.... it did happen on one of my levels though - a nasty picture turned into a blank nothing.

Of note, I found that on Splat III I was able to push bad pictures off by uploading a bunch myself.... then the next group of uploaded pictures went in AFTER mine. I haven't done extensive testing on this, but it seemed to work.		2010-04-17 00:46:00

Author:
CCubbage
Posts: 4430

Well it would be nice if someone on this forum came forward and told us who it is because I am totally convinced that someone knows. As RickRock quite rightly pointed out they have obviously taken some trouble in making objects to make all those stickers in the first place and there is no way they would do that and not show them off to their friends so there is bound to be someone reading this who has seen those stickers and thought "Oh yeah I recognise those, I know who made them".

Well now is your chance to be mature and tell the rest of us who it is. Come on, do the right thing. You'll probably be doing them a favour actually because if Sony find out before we do it'll be much worse for them.		2010-04-17 03:06:00

Author:
mistervista
Posts: 2210

I didn't read the entire thread, but are there any names on the uploaded pictures? By the looks of it the culprit has no life whatsoever. Hooray. More trolls.2010-04-17 04:01:00

Author:
bonner123
Posts: 1487

Well, looks like Roll Out the Barrel now has been targetted 2010-04-17 05:14:00

Author:
CCubbage
Posts: 4430

OK - Haven't been playing much LBP of late, but I got curious after the last few days of reading this thread. So I fired it up and low and behold I had not been targeted. So I uploaded pics in mistervista's and CCubbage's levels. I am curious how long I will now have to wait for "retaliation".

What a ridiculous way for one to spend their time.		2010-04-17 06:14:00

Author:
v0rtex
Posts: 1878

This is all... quite disappointing really. I personally can't believe that they're wasting their time posting pictures of pooing people on levels on an online game. It must have taken them upwards of 10 minutes to do the carving at least, and that's 10 minutes they could have used to do anything really... read a book, throw a stone at someone they didn't like to get rid of some of that inward frustration, do whatever they do when they're alone at night and angry at the world...

Either way, if this was worth getting their account banned I would have liked to have seen a real effort to do something offensive. After all, pooing is a part of human life and we've all seen it, particularly on animal documentaries or if we've ever walked behind someone's pet dog on the pavement. If they wanted to get banned for doing something offensive, why not do something really offensive like posting "your mum" in big red letters, or doing something with wee? It's widely underused, and on about the same level of maturity. Plus I'm assured that you can change the colour of actual in-game water using the settings menu...

Yes, if you're reading I'm getting at the fact you're utterly pathetic. And my levels (with their princely 100 plays each because I'm such a hot stuff creator) are both locked. So have fun uploading pictures of people performing their ablutions. Please God, not someone brushing their teeth! Heaven help us all!

The only thing I can really guess at while we wait for Sony to track their IP and ban their PSN (probably resulting in another anger-fuelled bout of poop chucking) is to think about who the hell has the free time to do this, or the reason. I can only think it might be...

1) a lurker with a lingering psychological disorder
2) someone who really hates a big bunch of people on this forum, but has no real life friends and needs the attention really bad
or
3) someone who used to be a member of the forum, knows everyone's links to each other (why jump from the vistas to ice maiden and then rhy?) and has some kind of lingering grudge.

Either way, let's hope Sony catches them soon... I have OCD and washing poo out of polystyrene isn't much fun (all I'm gonna say is DIMPLES people, DIMPLES!)...		2010-04-17 11:12:00

Author:
Khalith_
Posts: 16

(all I'm gonna say is DIMPLES people, DIMPLES!)...Hahahaha OMG - ROFLMAO. 2010-04-17 13:38:00

Author:
v0rtex
Posts: 1878

This is just getting plain silly. (I apologise if I repeat something that's already been said, can't be bothered to read such long posts ). My level has just been attacked. It's obviously either a lurker or a member, personally I hope it's a lurker, I would hate to find out a member of such an awesome community would do such a thing. I also suggest, if you haven't already been attacked, DON'T post in this thread.

However, I do know that the person uploading these pictures will be reading this, so this is to you:

First of all, I want you to think, just think about how you would feel if someone did this to something you'd spent a few months on, not so good I expect?

So, you have, 2 choices (You don't even need to say what you choose):

1) You can carry on uploading pictures to people's levels. However, I have some ideas in mind to find you. I will do something much worse than what you've been doing, I will report you to Sony. They will ban you and your days of uploading pictures will be over, along with your PSN account. Seems harsh? That's because it is.

2) You stop uploading pictures, we will all forget about this and you get away completely 100% free.

I suggest you make your decision, and you make it now. I don't see why you feel the need to do this but hopefully you will change your mind. Please choose wisely.

Thank you.		2010-04-17 13:41:00

Author:
Doopz
Posts: 5592

I knew that you (doopz) would be "attacked" by this guy since you posted a post on some pages ago 2010-04-17 13:45:00

Author:
Alec
Posts: 3871

You know, just a theory here - this is a GREAT opportunity to post a message publicly on MM's web site explaining what's happening here.... instead of giving the person the satisfaction of reading the "upset" that's being caused by the pics. Personally, I thought the pics on Roll Out The Barrel were pretty funny. But this is the perfect opportunity to LEAVE THE PICTURES ON THE LEVELS and post to MM showing the results - it could encourage them to do something about it. Sony could take direct action against the person and make and example since it isn't an isolated incident.2010-04-17 14:03:00

Author:
CCubbage
Posts: 4430

Well that took even less time than I imagined - less than 8 hours. So without a doubt - whomever is perpetrating these heinous acts is trolling this thread. As suggested earlier, if you wish your levels to remain untainted by childish jokes, DO NOT post in this thread.2010-04-17 17:32:00

Author:
v0rtex
Posts: 1878

On the other hand...............if every single member of the forum posted in this thread the perpetrator would need to recruit an army of numpty helpers and work round the clock without a break, not even to perform their own ablutions!2010-04-17 18:23:00

Author:
IceMaiden
Posts: 1057

This is just wrong. Why the hell do people do this?

I honestly don't get it.		2010-04-17 18:55:00

Author:
Astrosimi
Posts: 2046

This is just wrong. Why the hell do people do this?

I honestly don't get it.
Nooooo, delete your post or they'll attack you to 		2010-04-17 18:56:00

Author:
Alec
Posts: 3871

Nooooo, delete your post or they'll attack you to

I don't have levels, and whatever I have laying around, doesn't get played. Joke's on them 		2010-04-17 19:01:00

Author:
Astrosimi
Posts: 2046

I don't have levels, and whatever I have laying around, doesn't get played. Joke's on them

ok good, good, good!		2010-04-17 19:12:00

Author:
Alec
Posts: 3871

Hi folks, mrv has just found two different pics on his two unlocked levels. We now have 'Poo Poo Head' and 'Cry Baby'! We also noticed Rhy has them on his two levels too!
We are now at least getting a bit of variety, we were getting fed up of the old ones!
I wonder if they will do requests???		2010-04-17 22:46:00

Author:
mrsvista
Posts: 755

Hey, same thing on Roll out the Barrel again. Doesn't bother me much... might as well leave them on there as an example for LittleBigWorkshop a bit later. This may give some ammunition for MM to do something about the issue.2010-04-17 22:50:00

Author:
CCubbage
Posts: 4430

Hey, same thing on Roll out the Barrel again. Doesn't bother me much... might as well leave them on there as an example for LittleBigWorkshop a bit later. This may give some ammunition for MM to do something about the issue.
Yeah - I'm with you on this CCubbage.

Does anyone have a url or email addy that we can make or voices known (sorry, I've just never had good reason to do so up until now)? Thanks.		2010-04-18 02:33:00

Author:
v0rtex
Posts: 1878

I just hope the person who is doing this doesn't target my other accounts. You know the ones I mean, Clay_20_November, Clay_21_November, Clay_Big_Guns, Lemon and Gravy, Lemon and Crappy, etc. Not to mention all my Bomb/Shark/Hotel survival levels. I would be really really upset if he went after all those.2010-04-18 02:45:00

Author:
mistervista
Posts: 2210

I just hope the person who is doing this doesn't target my other accounts. You know the ones I mean, Clay_20_November, Clay_21_November, Clay_Big_Guns, Lemon and Gravy, Lemon and Crappy, etc. Not to mention all my Bomb/Shark/Hotel survival levels. I would be really really upset if he went after all those.

NoOo! You just had to let it slip! Quick! Go lock them before it's too late! 		2010-04-18 03:03:00

Author:
4wheel
Posts: 511

You know, just a theory here - this is a GREAT opportunity to post a message publicly on MM's web site explaining what's happening here.... instead of giving the person the satisfaction of reading the "upset" that's being caused by the pics. Personally, I thought the pics on Roll Out The Barrel were pretty funny. But this is the perfect opportunity to LEAVE THE PICTURES ON THE LEVELS and post to MM showing the results - it could encourage them to do something about it. Sony could take direct action against the person and make and example since it isn't an isolated incident.

What's the best way to do this? I've left the photos on my level too as they're crass but kind of amusing in their stupidity. I don't want them there forever but would like MM to see the obvious flaws in the system.

I think Vortex's description is apt - it's completely childish. Whoever you are (and I'm sure you'll read this at some point in your self-congratulatory gloating), why not use your limited creativity for good rather than evil. You might even find it more satisfying. At the moment all you're doing is wasting a bit of our space and time and you are ultimately of no consequence to any of us. And if you decide to post something retaliatory on my levels, something with Hugh Jackman would be good, thanks. Maybe in a greyish-blue...

Icey, I think that's a great idea! LOL!		2010-04-18 03:48:00

Author:
BabyDoll1970
Posts: 1567

Well, I'm performing an experiment. I "good griefed" the uploaded images on "Roll out the Barrel" to see what would happen. Will just the images be removed? Will the entire level disappear? I'll just wait and see. If just the pictures get deleted, most likely if EVERYONE starts doing it they will see a repeat-offender IP address start to emerge and do something about it. I figure I'm a pretty good guinea pig for this 2010-04-18 04:17:00

Author:
CCubbage
Posts: 4430

I figure I'm a pretty good guinea pig for this
This quote can be applied to SO many situations, CCub.		2010-04-18 04:24:00

Author:
v0rtex
Posts: 1878

We now have 'Poo Poo Head'!


Obviously things are a little more serious than we first thought. We are clearly dealing with a mastermind. I could never have thought of that in a million years. It's the ingenious way it has been linked to the original pic managing to change the text by enough to avoid infringement of copyright. Incredible, nobel prize winning, genieistical powers of creation!

I'm wiv you Cub, I'm wiv you!

I'm off to play mrv's Bomb/Shark/Hotel survival levels.

Icey		2010-04-18 10:11:00

Author:
IceMaiden
Posts: 1057

Apparently when you good grief something it takes a bit.... still no affect on Roll out the Barrel. The pictures are still there, and the level hasn't been moderated.2010-04-18 12:45:00

Author:
CCubbage
Posts: 4430

More specifically, whoever it is seems to be mostly targeting people who've posted to this thread, as it seems one of my levels has now had the same thing happen to it. So it's clearly nothing to do with a level's popularity, since none of mine are proper levels really.

I've just submitted a Good Grief! report. I'll see if this has any effect or not, but if everyone else were to do the same, I'm sure the perpetrator will soon have his PSN account blocked.

Aya sent in a good grief report on Friday (I think). Has there been any reaction to that yet?		2010-04-18 16:13:00

Author:
shropshirelass
Posts: 1455

Aya sent in a good grief report on Friday (I think). Has there been any reaction to that yet?

Nothing yet, but I think it was quite late on Friday, and the LBP moderation team may not work over the weekends. I shall post an update on the situation when I get a response.

Frankly I don't know why they bothered targetting me, as all my levels are rubbish anyway, so I couldn't care less. If they think it's gonna make me waste my time trying to get rid of them by uploading new images, they're sadly mistaken, so they've just wasted several minutes of their life which they're never getting back. 		2010-04-18 17:41:00

Author:
Aya042
Posts: 2870

I was on today for 5 minutes on lbp . So I checked my level and I would like to thank shropshire-lass and others for uploading pictures so the bad ones disappeared
But he has uploaded new ones again, so I good griefd the pictures. Hopefully, will Sony Ban this guys IP		2010-04-18 20:07:00

Author:
Alec
Posts: 3871

I got more people posting spam pictures on my level,
mostly a badly drawn man on a toilet with the words "This level stinks".
I would almost consider creating a fetid sewer level to make the pic appropriate.		2010-04-19 00:02:00

Author:
Luos_83
Posts: 2136

LOL, Luos (at the sewer comment)! We've all got that man on the toilet gracing our levels - although mine said "CRAP". Poor fellow. No privacy for him, apparently.2010-04-19 00:45:00

Author:
BabyDoll1970
Posts: 1567

Hmm, my guess is that the move from "crap" to "this level stinks" and the new "poo-poo head" slogan are an attempt to tone down the language to avoid being moderated or rather banned, lol!2010-04-19 01:24:00

Author:
shropshirelass
Posts: 1455

I had one of the pink wiggly arm guy with a finger in their private area and what look like bubbles coming out of it, I'm sure you can guess what kind of image this person was creating. Not sure what it meant though lol could have been so good it was orgasmic lol Thankfully the general public wiped it out a while back.2010-04-19 01:45:00

Author:
OneEyedBanshee
Posts: 1370

I Wish to join your guys' brigade of brave grief relieving heroes!
*Majestic golden light*
I Will fight along side you, aiding you in any way possible!
*More golden light*
We shall strike down the offensive pictures and stop them, destroying the source with our bare hands!
*Golden light OMFG*
Is it hot in here?...... ARRRRGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!! GGGGAAAAAHHHHHH!!!! HOT!! HOT!!!!		2010-04-19 02:54:00

Author:
Joshofsouls
Posts: 1569

But I wondre.. are lbpc members the onesthat get targeted the most?

for all we know the fellah or fellah's are roaming this forum to se what level they can spam on next.		2010-04-19 11:10:00

Author:
Luos_83
Posts: 2136

Yet again im sorry for the levels that have been targeted, it is very upsetting and i know how that feels.
Some of you may know (there is a thread about this) that i have recently been attacked by a fenderjt clone!
They have been going around levels uploading photos of pink and blue stickers saying "No good" or "Bad level".
They are wearing a hat with the sticker "fenderjt" on it to make it look like me. The name doesnt show up in the photo as they are doing a trick where you can upload photos without a name showing.

I was very upset by this and had to message all my friends to warn them that this wasnt me! I also noted this on my new level Dual Shock in the description.
I have a few messages saying "fender why are you hating on me?" and "why are you uploading bad pics on my levels??". Obviously i messaged them straight away saying that this was not me.

I had a message to my psn today saying something around the lines of "Um....hi, i am sorry for uploading bad photos pretending to be you. Please can you message ******* to let them know i am sorry so i dont get banned. I dont want to be banned im sorry" (I do not want to give away any names at this precise moment) I checked the profile of this user name and it was a new account with no trophies etc. Just a name and that they were from England. I also tried to check the senders name and the name stated in the body of the email but nothing came up on lbp.
I messaged them back saying "The situation was very upsetting and every account related to the name will be affected"
I then got another message back saying "Sorry i was bored and had just lost all of my data"
I was shocked to hear this! I got targeted because they were BORED AND UPSET!! Its just ridicolous and disgusting that they would use me to make themselves feel better because they are down. It has really got to me and i dont think they will get away with it.

There has been a lot of greif on lbp lately and for them starting this as well was a bad move.

I hope this will all stop soon as it is ruining lbp!

P.s To Rhyfelwr, your email to Sony is very well done!! Thank you!

(Sorry for any spelling mistakes lol!)		2010-04-19 12:17:00

Author:
Fenderjt
Posts: 1969

It's ME LOL! I GOOD GRIEFED U ALL SO I WOULD GET MORE PLAYS! UR WELCOME!

Perhaps there should be a feature in LBP where it will know if you placed a sticker/decoration anywhere so they can't Good Grief it.		2010-04-19 17:39:00

Author:
qrtda235566
Posts: 3664

Im sure MM can track the ip of the picture spammers,
Im more worried that they (just as their never updated news page) are too busy with other stuff.		2010-04-19 18:16:00

Author:
Luos_83
Posts: 2136

I just uploaded some pictures on fenderjt's level, but I couldn't find any on luos levels.2010-04-19 20:12:00

Author:
Alec
Posts: 3871

I am extremely reluctant to believe this person is sorry. It took quite a bit of time to upload multiple pics and do follow ups attacks over a series of days.( especially since some of those attacked initially are not "high visable").
If they had been sorry it would have taken all of 5 mins. to directly apologize to the targeted creators instead of asking you to do so Fender.
This also comes only after members have decided to try and get resolution from MM and Sony. So it seems not that they are sorry but that they don't want to be banned.

Bored and upset?? What does this person think they have done to the creators that this statement will make it all ok??

Sorry for my venting, I just don't understand why this behavior truly happened in the first place.		2010-04-19 20:36:00

Author:
Lady_Luck__777
Posts: 3458

I am extremely reluctant to believe this person is sorry. It took quite a bit of time to upload multiple pics and do follow ups attacks over a series of days.( especially since some of those attacked initially are not "high visable").
If they had been sorry it would have taken all of 5 mins. to directly apologize to the targeted creators instead of asking you to do so Fender.
This also comes only after members have decided to try and get resolution from MM and Sony. So it seems not that they are sorry but that they don't want to be banned.

Bored and upset?? What does this person think they have done to the creators that this statement will make it all ok??

Sorry for my venting, I just don't understand why this behavior truly happened in the first place.

Sorry to say this but this person is not the spammer of all the pics of everyone's level including mine. He just cloned me and uploaded pics pretending it was me, this is a different situation. He messaged me to say sorry because i threatened the situation and someone else did too so he got scared. We still dont know who the actual spammer is who does the poo pics 		2010-04-19 20:49:00

Author:
Fenderjt
Posts: 1969

Holy lot of activity on this thread Batman!!

I haven't had a chance to read all the requests/posts, but rest assured we do have an active team. Sometimes it's a long time before we get a request so it's hard to ban the team together at moments notice, but like Comph and Morgana pointed out a few pages ago, if you see a request here - go ahead and post some pics even if you're not technically part of the group. If you would like to join the group, please do!!

Also, if you would like to be a part of the team AND help me with moderating the requests, please let me know. These days the spotlight crew has been getting most of my attention, so please - ANY and ALL help is welcome!

Thank you for being willing to help other people, because honestly, that's what it's all about 		2010-04-19 21:04:00

Author:
Powershifter
Posts: 668

I accidently tested some stuff when I lag-deleted my level instead of republishing it.
Well testing is a big word..

Anyways, I published my cave level and within a minute a few people had played it, and rated it 2 star...
they litterally exited the level after it was loaded and rated it low on purpose.
(or really didnt spend any time to give it a shot)
so deleted the level again, republishing.
after 2 minutes, same story again.. 2 plays 2 stars.
Delete - publish, few minutes later, 2 plays 2 stars and a photo of a but! whoohoo!!!



Now unless they really really hate my visuals I can understand why you want to quit instantly..
Dunno what the levels ratings are now,
but after a good night of sleep i almost demand badly drawn butt photo's on my level 		2010-04-20 11:56:00

Author:
Luos_83
Posts: 2136

Hm... Luos. That suggests to me that it might be someone on your friends' list, seeing as they were so quick to seek out your level being republished. Either that, or they are very efficient at what they do...

2010-04-20 12:21:00

Author:
comphermc
Posts: 5338

Luos, that happens to me everytime i publish now. Its goes down to 1 star straight away. I have to lock my level for a few hours and get my friends to play it. Its safer that way.

I havent been on my ps3 but have found out from a friend that someone has uploaded pics on my Dual Shock level calling me a man etc. This pics were especially made for me, i had someone spamming comments on my level to saying "a man made this level" and some very disgusting and nasty words too. Im guessing this is the person who is uploading the pics.
Well bad move, i have their psn name. Doesnt matter if its one of their 10 accounts, i have a name and i guess il try to do something about it.

I hope Song sort it massive issue asap. Lbp is being taken over. Imagine newcomers seeing all this on peoples levels!? Its so stupid.		2010-04-20 12:41:00

Author:
Fenderjt
Posts: 1969

Interesting note on low ratings when first published - me and RangerZero did a LOT of testing on this. The conclusion both of us came to is that there are players that just sit there and way for someone to publish, then jump in and low rate. Generally I have done what Fenderjt does.... I will lock it, go into it from a sub-account, rate it high to begin with, then open it and tell my friends it's ready to play. It sounds like a ridiculous process to go through, but after many tests we confirmed it's absolutely true and necessary to initially protect from low ratings.2010-04-20 12:58:00

Author:
CCubbage
Posts: 4430

Interesting note on low ratings when first published - me and RangerZero did a LOT of testing on this. The conclusion both of us came to is that there are players that just sit there and way for someone to publish, then jump in and low rate.

As a bit of wild speculation, I would imagine these are often the same people who sit and spam publish their levels. If you have the mentality to spampublish (i.e. push yourself to the front of visibility despite the mundaneness of the task), then you probably have the mentality to reduce the visibility of rivals (as this will further improve one's own visibility). You can probably get in a pretty efficient cycle of [ publish -> check page 1 -> downrate a level -> repeat] if that's the way you wanna play the system.

And of course targetting the new levels will maximise your negative impact as you have the most power over their overall rating at this point. Plus subsequent players will often just rate whatever the current rating is multiplying the effect your initial downrating has.		2010-04-20 14:11:00

Author:
rtm223
Posts: 6497

Hm... Luos. That suggests to me that it might be someone on your friends' list, seeing as they were so quick to seek out your level being republished. Either that, or they are very efficient at what they do...



I assume so,
After Holden1heart and x2home stole stuff from me in the editor and kicking/blocking them,
other people in my friends list started asking me if I could re-add them. (around 10 people in total)
As there are some fans of my series in my psn list (50 or so) I wouldnt be surprised that there are at least one of two that could do this,
but I hate to think so.
I have been adding less and less people over the month as some do not have the common courtesy to leave stuff in my editor alone.
But its hard to refuse when they are polite and ask if they could take a look in the editor.
But for these occasions Worm made me a entry sign saying :
"No glueing, no landing, no stealing or face the wrath of the hairy one"




Luos, that happens to me everytime i publish now. Its goes down to 1 star straight away. I have to lock my level for a few hours and get my friends to play it. Its safer that way.

I havent been on my ps3 but have found out from a friend that someone has uploaded pics on my Dual Shock level calling me a man etc. This pics were especially made for me, i had someone spamming comments on my level to saying "a man made this level" and some very disgusting and nasty words too. Im guessing this is the person who is uploading the pics.
Well bad move, i have their psn name. Doesnt matter if its one of their 10 accounts, i have a name and i guess il try to do something about it.

I hope Song sort it massive issue asap. Lbp is being taken over. Imagine newcomers seeing all this on peoples levels!? Its so stupid.

Ooh it even quotes in magenta
Yea I figured that out,
It even made me consider not to republish to get more plays.
I rather have 30 people of lbpc play my levels and rate fair than 3k people of which half rather play a rocket cheetah water level
It does feel good to see so much plays, but one of my dutch friends made a "Free cod weapons" level and got 17k plays and the level is still 5 stars.
His vision is a simple and probably correct one though.
"Kids play the levels, and they like prizes over gameplay"
Which is sad imho because when I was young, nothing could make me feel more exiting than making it to the end of a level..
I think if they would release old NES/SNES/Genesys levels nowadays.. most kids wouldnt be able to finish the games.
My brother actually wants his kids to grow up playing the NES at age 5, SNES at age 6 and so on untill the newest consoles just so his kids have the experience and understanding of the history of gaming.
Im drifting of again... zuduzuduzudu.

All we can do is ignore the trolls and other annoying people.
Oh, use the word ban a lot... they get scared if you do




Interesting note on low ratings when first published - me and RangerZero did a LOT of testing on this. The conclusion both of us came to is that there are players that just sit there and way for someone to publish, then jump in and low rate. Generally I have done what Fenderjt does.... I will lock it, go into it from a sub-account, rate it high to begin with, then open it and tell my friends it's ready to play. It sounds like a ridiculous process to go through, but after many tests we confirmed it's absolutely true and necessary to initially protect from low ratings.

I have done this before, but the redicilous long loading time lbp takes to boot up and log on with my brothers account just takes so long I cant really be bothered by it, Luckily one of my friends comes over from time to time and has a genuine interest in my creations and isnt afraid to tell me whats wrong with them.. and plays them on my brothers Acc. (Hopefully rating them high).


As a bit of wild speculation, I would imagine these are often the same people who sit and spam publish their levels. If you have the mentality to spampublish (i.e. push yourself to the front of visibility despite the mundaneness of the task), then you probably have the mentality to reduce the visibility of rivals (as this will further improve one's own visibility). You can probably get in a pretty efficient cycle of [ publish -> check page 1 -> downrate a level -> repeat] if that's the way you wanna play the system.

And of course targetting the new levels will maximise your negative impact as you have the most power over their overall rating at this point. Plus subsequent players will often just rate whatever the current rating is multiplying the effect your initial downrating has.

You know,
I actually never thought about that..
Sure you have heard my whining about certain people in the main lbp community..
but this has never even crossed my mind, and I would hate the thought of people actually doing this.
I can understand that I might have ticked off some people either on lbp or here on lbpc and that maybe one or a few people got so angry that they target me/my levels..
but actually random negatively targeting people to improve your own visibility by low rating, spamming pictures and even spamming the comment box on your level... thats just.. (dont worry wont go there but you get my point)
That person could use a really really long hug telling him its allright and that he doesnt have to be angry...

Maybe we should start our own spam group
a love 4 love spam group
A very positive one.. only leaving kind comments and high ratings on levels that deserve it..
but then again.. who are we to decide what level would deserve such a treatment and which level doesnt..

*still shocked by rtms assumption*		2010-04-20 15:01:00

Author:
Luos_83
Posts: 2136

*still shocked by rtms assumption*
Actually, this had occurred to RangerZero and I a year ago.... however, I didn't want to publicly say it. But now that rtm has said it... well... I definately think there is something to it. Most of the time these low rating occur there is NO way a player could get in there, spend enough time to get frustrated, and exit. So it would need to be malicious for it to happen as quickly as it does.

But, most creators are used to this nowadays. It's a pretty easy thing to battle if you have some friends on the friend list. Just tell them the time you're going to publish so a number of them will be prepared to help your rating.		2010-04-20 16:35:00

Author:
CCubbage
Posts: 4430

Yo, i got the fender situation handled...
If i'm correct in my theory, the person i caught first was asked to spam fender! If so, i'll find the "Leader" Soon enough.

I'll get my friend Chris to patrol the levels that are being spammed to try and join them online		2010-04-20 16:37:00

Author:
Joshofsouls
Posts: 1569

When reading such stuff...
I really miss my old ut community...

It feels like we are a little settlement with walls around us to keep us shelter from a chaotic storm.
Arrgh i need food, im getting all kite-high-philosophical.		2010-04-20 16:40:00

Author:
Luos_83
Posts: 2136

Yo, i got the fender situation handled...
If i'm correct in my theory, the person i caught first was asked to spam fender! If so, i'll find the "Leader" Soon enough.

I'll get my friend Chris to patrol the levels that are being spammed to try and join them online

But but what if they dont play online?		2010-04-20 17:02:00

Author:
Fenderjt
Posts: 1969

mrv has two levels unlocked. At 2pm this afternoon they all had good pics on them.
He has just looked and his Voyage level now has 5 of the c**p pictures and his Incredibles level has 5 pictures with the c**p sticker very small next to a sticker of the LBPC logo, which looks like they are saying LBPC is c**p.

Same with Rhy's 2 levels, 6 of the c**p ones on Terminator and 7 of the same on the other.		2010-04-20 17:13:00

Author:
mrsvista
Posts: 755

Ok I just did an experiment, I locked my level so you needed to go to my key room to get a key, 10 minutes after I published my key room, he had went into the key room to get the key for my level. After that I had a lot of "bad" uploaded pictures on my "main" level. This guy doesn't have a PSN ID in some weird way because he wasn't on the scoreboad on my key room level, and he had was the only one that had finished it.2010-04-20 17:29:00

Author:
Alec
Posts: 3871

So the person who is causing this is a member of lbpc or regularly visits this site. Well i hope they've read the email that was sent to Sony. I know for a fact this spammer will be caught in the end. They think they are invisible but what they actually are doing is getting there selves banned slowly. As time will pass, they will soon live to regret this. They are digging their self into a big hole! If your reading this now spammer, i laugh at you laughing because soon we will be the only ones laughing at you feeling regretful!
Its not worth it, it really isn't. Sony will not let a game get ruined, it will put people off playing the game, and ruin the community. They wouldn't want that so lets just wait and see what will happen 		2010-04-20 21:01:00

Author:
Fenderjt
Posts: 1969

Just to give everyone an update on my e-mail to Sony...

My original e-mail was greeted by a fairly standard response saying "please make a grief report on the playstation website"... useless because we don't have the username of the person responsible.

I have however just had a 1/2 hour conversation with their customer relations department and made a full report. This was not easy because their usual systems require a username.

Sony are able to trace the user concerned and I have been informed that the culprit will, at the very least, have their PSN account suspended. If it is decided that the grievance is strong enough, the users PSN account will be banned and/or, the PS3 serial number & IP address will be blocked from using the playstation network permanently. This means that the culprit will not be able to use another PSN account on that Playstation.

I have ben told that this process will take a few days.

Rhy		2010-04-20 21:56:00

Author:
Rhyfelwr
Posts: 606

Thanks for that Rhy. Let's hope they get the matter sorted for everyone soon.2010-04-20 22:33:00

Author:
mrsvista
Posts: 755

Haha well i knew they wouldnt get away with it. I hope their reading this!
Thanks Rhy, you have helped a lot of us and we appreciate it.		2010-04-20 22:50:00

Author:
Fenderjt
Posts: 1969

I would pay a lot of money to see this guys face as soon as he reads that....2010-04-20 22:55:00

Author:
Doopz
Posts: 5592

I would pay a lot of money to see this guys face as soon as he reads that....

Ditto 		2010-04-20 23:00:00

Author:
Fenderjt
Posts: 1969

Actually, there is every possibility it could be a girl.2010-04-20 23:10:00

Author:
IceMaiden
Posts: 1057

Too true Icey, too true!2010-04-20 23:15:00

Author:
mrsvista
Posts: 755

Yes, but not very likely to be a girl.... let's face it, Men are FAR more immature than women. But, that's a subject for another thread....

Besides, if it were a girl, chances are the artwork wouldn't have been so shoddy. 		2010-04-20 23:28:00

Author:
CCubbage
Posts: 4430

Just to give everyone an update on my e-mail to Sony...

My original e-mail was greeted by a fairly standard response saying "please make a grief report on the playstation website"... useless because we don't have the username of the person responsible.

I have however just had a 1/2 hour conversation with their customer relations department and made a full report. This was not easy because their usual systems require a username.

Sony are able to trace the user concerned and I have been informed that the culprit will, at the very least, have their PSN account suspended. If it is decided that the grievance is strong enough, the users PSN account will be banned and/or, the PS3 serial number & IP address will be blocked from using the playstation network permanently. This means that the culprit will not be able to use another PSN account on that Playstation.

I have ben told that this process will take a few days.

Rhy

You sir, are awesome. This culprit's days are numbered!

http://www.petesqbsite.com/sections/express/issue10/for_great_justice.gif		2010-04-20 23:30:00

Author:
Astrosimi
Posts: 2046

Well, I'm performing an experiment. I "good griefed" the uploaded images on "Roll out the Barrel" to see what would happen. Will just the images be removed? Will the entire level disappear? I'll just wait and see. If just the pictures get deleted, most likely if EVERYONE starts doing it they will see a repeat-offender IP address start to emerge and do something about it. I figure I'm a pretty good guinea pig for this
So, does this work?		2010-04-20 23:33:00

Author:
warlord_evil
Posts: 4193

Ok I just did an experiment, I locked my level so you needed to go to my key room to get a key, 10 minutes after I published my key room, he had went into the key room to get the key for my level. After that I had a lot of "bad" uploaded pictures on my "main" level. This guy doesn't have a PSN ID in some weird way because he wasn't on the scoreboad on my key room level, and he had was the only one that had finished it.

Did you make sure to put the key on the scoreboard, so they didn't just quit out?		2010-04-21 02:01:00

Author:
comphermc
Posts: 5338

Men are FAR more immature than women.

Thats not true!!
*cries and stampedes on floor*		2010-04-21 02:24:00

Author:
Luos_83
Posts: 2136

@Rhy...thank you for your efforts and willingness to stay on the phone with (spoken with an echo for drama -->) "CUSTOMER SERVICE" for a half hour--I can imagine what that was like . Actually they are pretty good at giving responses, and if they said a couple of days, then it will be very close to that.

Thanks again,
Rick		2010-04-21 02:29:00

Author:
RickRock_777
Posts: 1567

Thankyou Rhy, remind me never to get on the wrong side of you!

Have unlocked my levels, they have been released from protective custody!

Icey		2010-04-22 10:29:00

Author:
IceMaiden
Posts: 1057

@Rhy...has there been any update from Sony on the status?

Thanks,
Rick		2010-04-24 04:25:00

Author:
RickRock_777
Posts: 1567

@Rhy...has there been any update from Sony on the status?

Thanks,
Rick

It is in the hands of Head Office and I am sure this will get resolved shortly.		2010-04-24 10:44:00

Author:
Rhyfelwr
Posts: 606

That's good to hear! Thankyou, Rhy

In the meantime, our mystery defecation fanatic proved that he does in fact take requests as I got back online today and discovered I had Poo/Hugh Jackman pics as per my request.. even my colour request was considered.. :/ This person has waaaaay too much time on their hands.		2010-04-28 07:23:00

Author:
BabyDoll1970
Posts: 1567

Zomg, really babydoll?2010-04-28 12:16:00

Author:
Luos_83
Posts: 2136

Ummm you guys aren't going to believe this but, a guy has discovered a way to remove his username from lbp, i was investigating something and found that a player had removed his username, pressing L1 brought up (BLANK)'S best fwend! I asked him how and he just said Lol and left...

Any thoughts?		2010-04-28 12:54:00

Author:
Joshofsouls
Posts: 1569

well, my bro made this acc. called "japanese sl*t" just to check out japanese games,
He once joined with that char in lbp and made a pic.
the name was ************, so it might be possible that his name is sensorred?

or do you mean totally blank? havent seen that yet.		2010-04-28 13:03:00

Author:
Luos_83
Posts: 2136

TOTALLY BLANK
You'd see this

's best fwend		2010-04-28 13:07:00

Author:
Joshofsouls
Posts: 1569

Zomg, really babydoll?

Indeedy. Just check out my Art Vandals or Psycho Granny levels. Hugh Jackman with the caption "I heart POO".

As for removing psn.. how is that possible?		2010-04-28 13:38:00

Author:
BabyDoll1970
Posts: 1567

I'm confused too... as for finding that person, IMPOSSIBLE...2010-04-29 03:16:00

Author:
Joshofsouls
Posts: 1569

I'm guessing it's just a another account on the same console with a "space" button for their name.2010-04-29 04:21:00

Author:
warlord_evil
Posts: 4193

There's no way to remove a PSN. C'mon guys, no jumping to conclusions. It has to do with User, not PSN, and doing a controller identity exchange. Users have strange properties in LBP. My friend, shadow-x-soldier, has an secondary user called "." (just a period.) If he joins me, it reads "shadow-x-soldier wishes to join you". Then, when he's next to me, and I press L2, " . " is floating above his head.2010-04-29 04:28:00

Author:
Incinerator22
Posts: 3251

But still, even blank or the "period" psn name can be traced

If this goes on, maybe we should all call costumer service.
if all of a sudden 10's maybe 100's of people would call.. they might be more willing to solve this fast 		2010-04-29 11:49:00

Author:
Luos_83
Posts: 2136

Just wanted to give everyone some reassurance.

Sony HO, (UK) have now submitted this to a team, yes a team of no less than 10 people! (why, I have no idea). They are in the process of investigating the matter and it has been decided that the severity is such that the user will have their console ID banned. This means that the only way this user will be able to access the PSN is to buy another console.

I will let you know when this has been done.

Rhy

I am not prepared to go into detail about how they are being tracked. Needless to say, Sony are not daft.

Unfortunately, I have been told that they will not release the userID of the person concerned. It is also possible that my levels may appear temporarily moderated while they investigate... D:		2010-04-29 13:19:00

Author:
Rhyfelwr
Posts: 606

any chance if they will check out more users their levels?
As many of us are targeted, if not by pics, its by 1 stars and tag's like "lousy/empty etc"		2010-04-29 15:41:00

Author:
Luos_83
Posts: 2136

I've just submitted a Good Grief! report.

Just an update for anyone interested...

The offensive pictures have now disappeared from my level, although I can't be certain whether it's because they've been moderated, or the perpetrator[s] have uploaded so many more that the older ones are starting to be removed.		2010-04-29 23:15:00

Author:
Aya042
Posts: 2870

I have an update for you all...

I received a phone call from Sony today saying that the culprit has been identified and that Sony have now removed the offensive pictures from my levels. These have been replaced by older images taken before the offensive ones were posted.

They cannot reveal the identify of the individual concerned due to privacy laws (mumble mumble).

In addition, they will "punish" this person, although the guy I spoke to couldn't confirm what that punishment will be, other than it is likely to be a suspension and consoleID ban.

One of their managers will be phoning me back in the next 24 hours to tell me if they have been stopped.

I'm guessing though that this marks pretty much the end for our little troublemaker!!!

Rhy

P.S. - this does not necessarily mean that images have been removed from ALL levels affected, although I'm guessing they won't be able to upload any more....		2010-05-04 22:56:00

Author:
Rhyfelwr
Posts: 606

Thanks Rhy.... I just hope the little *&@#$^% is still trolling this thread, so they can squirm a bit before the punishment. From my experience, the hours between, "You just wait until your father gets home!" and his actual return from work, were always much more painful than the strap itself.2010-05-04 23:24:00

Author:
v0rtex
Posts: 1878

Thanks, Rhy, for going to all this trouble and for wanting to make a stand about this in the first place. I think it was the right thing to do in this case and I'm so glad your efforts have paid off! 2010-05-04 23:38:00

Author:
shropshirelass
Posts: 1455

Thanks Rhy. Good to hear that your pleas got through to Sony and they did the right thing.2010-05-05 00:13:00

Author:
mistervista
Posts: 2210

Lol,
I can see him crying at school tomorrow..
telling all his friends.. whom all have lbp as well..
And history repeats itself 		2010-05-05 15:11:00

Author:
Luos_83
Posts: 2136

(Deleted because MrsVista hurt my feelings)

jk		2010-05-05 19:59:00

Author:
bonner123
Posts: 1487

are you some how implying that the person who has done this has a mental disorder and are thus mocking his disability? how thoughtless.2010-05-05 20:04:00

Author:
flamingemu
Posts: 1872

Thats really funny bonner.....................NOT!2010-05-05 21:03:00

Author:
mrsvista
Posts: 755

Lol,
I can see him crying at school tomorrow..
telling all his friends.. whom all have lbp as well..
And history repeats itself

That's really something to look forward to then. I guarantee, without shadow of a doubt, Rhy will do exactly the same thing again, and again, and again, trust me.

Icey		2010-05-05 21:37:00

Author:
IceMaiden
Posts: 1057

The only thing I regret is that I lost all the wonderful pictures of people finding ways to break "Roll out the Barrel".... I'm gonna miss those. Now all I have is a bunch of pictures of a poop head.2010-05-05 21:46:00

Author:
CCubbage
Posts: 4430

I would love to be a member of the Good Grief Team.2010-05-07 22:13:00

Author:
DragonSackBoy
Posts: 17

I'm glad to know that it has been resolved, I never thought when Mr. V 1st posted of a trouble maker that it would grow to such a size. Hopefully things will now go back to the way they were and decent pictures will be uploaded again.2010-05-08 13:04:00

Author:
4wheel
Posts: 511

Hey again guys.

I got some bad uploaded pictures on my level, and I would be glad if you could upload some new ones.
This time I know who uploaded them, and I sent a profile message to him here on LBPC... it's not the same guy as it was the last time though.		2010-05-18 13:40:00

Author:
Alec
Posts: 3871

This person is back!

I'm getting the "Cry baby" and "Crap" and "Butt Here" stickers uploaded onto my levels. Not that I care about it that much. I just wanted to warn you, as those who do care might want to check their levels. The thing that gets me is I thought this guy was banned?

Anyway, check your levels folks! And remember, don't post here if you haven't yet been attacked, this person seems to target those who post here...		2010-05-20 16:54:00

Author:
Doopz
Posts: 5592

wow, looks like I missed all the fun.
and offensive photos featuring Hugh Jackman?
well, poop!

No matter. good to see punks like that getting what they have so diligantly earned!... and pity any one stupid enough to let this person use their PS3.

That aside, I'm Happy to help clean up. I Keep an alternate account Specifically for stuff like this.

I realize this might seem a little odd, coming from the author of "Win A Bunch of Crap" , but at least I'm not going out of my way to S*** on people. 		2010-05-20 17:09:00

Author:
swanbrown
Posts: 898

wow, looks like I missed all the fun.
and offensive photos featuring Hugh Jackman?
well, poop!

No matter. good to see punks like that getting what they have so diligantly earned!... and pity any one stupid enough to let this person use their PS3.

That aside, I'm Happy to help clean up. I Keep an alternate account Specifically for stuff like this.

Were you reading the wrong page? I do that sometimes. Because you obviously haven't seen my post, this person has not yet been dealt with.

Also, how do you know they don't have their own PS3? 		2010-05-20 17:24:00

Author:
Doopz
Posts: 5592

because of your post, I suspect that they are using another PS3,( or have enlisted the aid of some poor, gullible sucker) to continue the campaign.2010-05-20 17:34:00

Author:
swanbrown
Posts: 898

He maybe use one of his friends PS3's or he just got a new one...
I hope this guy just leave us alone, because next one uploading a bad picture on my level is stupid.		2010-05-20 19:13:00

Author:
Alec
Posts: 3871

Maybe it is a troll union of sorts.2010-05-20 23:10:00

Author:
bonner123
Posts: 1487

I have posted a pic or two to your level, alec, I'll check back and see if it has pushed the badness away2010-05-28 16:38:00

Author:
swanbrown
Posts: 898

Glad to see you guys so active in the relief effort!! Speaking of active people on the team...

If there is anyone interested in taking the lead for the Grief Relief Team, please PM either myself or BabyDoll1970. I'm eager to pass the torch along to someone who is more actively playing LBP. I love the group and what it does for the community, so I'm not willing to leave completely, but I am more than willing to step down as the point person. So again, if you're interested and willing to uphold our original standards of the group, please PM me or Babydoll1970 (or both of us!). Thanks!!

2010-06-08 16:04:00

Author:
Powershifter
Posts: 668


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