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WHAT! how did he get more plays then me!

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OK seriously! i do know how to get 10 000 plays, but honestly????? y is it that when i release a level EVERY FREAKIN TIME! lol someone like Wexfrodian or... fenderjt releases a level and sudenlly all the attention goes to their level! like i just relesed randomosity 3 and im pretty proud of it i spent lots of time n effort on it but then i see that sjepap has just released story of the west! now all the attention goes to him just because hes like, OMG its sjepap!!!!! what the hell, people play and heart levels made by them somtimes simply because its by them! im sick and trid of this haoppenng every freakin time! does anyone have any idea how i can get myself more famous??????2009-10-04 14:34:00

Author:
Tawarf
Posts: 457


Calm down...
Just republish a lot if you're that desperate to get plays.
2009-10-04 14:36:00

Author:
ARD
Posts: 4291


In the end people will go for the better level, so just try to improve your level I guess.

Not that i'm saying your level is bad or anything.

Please don't hurt me.
2009-10-04 14:38:00

Author:
Leather-Monkey
Posts: 2266


I don't know about all of those authors, but Wexfordian does consistently produce fantastic levels. I haven't played your levels so I don't know how good they are comparatively, but it's a high standard to match. Also, just because people are playing those levels, doesn't mean people aren't playing other levels. It's not like people shouldn't publish any levels when one of those authors comes out with a level for fear of getting trampled. LittleBigPlanet doesn't really work like that, especially because you can't see when creators have published new levels. Relax, take a step back, and if you are that desperate for plays, just do what ARD said and republish your level over and over within a week of posting it.2009-10-04 14:46:00

Author:
BSprague
Posts: 2325


Don't worry. Iv'e played some levels of yours. You are very good. Just republish. I wouldn't take it so seriously. I felt my level was overshadowed a little by lil_klash16's A LONG WAY 2 as it just towered over my level as they were beside each other on cool page 1. I didn't worry. Sure it got more plays than mine, but I'm happy with how I did2009-10-04 15:01:00

Author:
KQuinn94Z
Posts: 1758


I DO REPUBLISH!!!!! lol its easy ive goten to pg 1 4 times, its just, like randmosity was like 1 st i line for pg 1 but then... that stupid blue coaster came so i had to wait 4 that, then fenderjts ultimate funky fun then the stupid helicope
ter level, and all of them took around 7 hours to get there, while mine ended up not even gettin to pg 1, it could have been there 4 maby around 3 dyas! but no! same with The forbbiden temple, it could have goten there for even 4 4 days!!!!!!!!!!!! but i ended up having only like 13 hours on it! ROAR!!!!! that **** level took a hole month!
2009-10-04 15:12:00

Author:
Tawarf
Posts: 457


I have no idea what you just said...2009-10-04 15:15:00

Author:
ARD
Posts: 4291


You ae well off compared to some. You see syroc? One of the most talented creators out there. His levels are amazing but will struggle to get out of 3 figures in his play count.2009-10-04 15:16:00

Author:
KQuinn94Z
Posts: 1758


AWWWWWW!!!! syrocs amazing! he just dosent republish as much as you should!2009-10-04 15:19:00

Author:
Tawarf
Posts: 457


He can't, his PS3 is dead.
You can.
If you do republish then I don't see what the problem is. It's just a game...
2009-10-04 15:21:00

Author:
ARD
Posts: 4291


wait.... u have a crown????????? what no fair! i think if i paint a picture on canvas of a sackbiy or smthin related to lbp i could win one, i paint alot!2009-10-04 15:24:00

Author:
Tawarf
Posts: 457


Uh, I don't have a crown...
And seriously, if you start using proper spelling and grammar people will have an easier time understanding you.
2009-10-04 15:30:00

Author:
ARD
Posts: 4291


lol im not really good at spelling + im not very good at typin so im really sorry for any inconviniece2009-10-04 15:33:00

Author:
Tawarf
Posts: 457


and im also only 13 so ha! lol2009-10-04 15:34:00

Author:
Tawarf
Posts: 457


I was 13 when I was 13 years old. I could spell just fine because I tried. 2009-10-04 15:35:00

Author:
Xenifus
Posts: 306


Yes but at thirteen most of us knew that the word "and" isn't spelled "+". You get me? You aren't trying to spell properly.

Anyway, does it really matter how many plays you are getting? What's gonna happen if you get as many plays as wex?

I know I bang on about this, but I spent 4 months on my only proper level. I've just checked and it has under 1300 plays. I'm happy with that, because the intrinsic rewards of creating something that I genuinely love outweigh any stats on the published product. I enjoyed those four months of creating amd that's what matters.

I play this game for fun. What are you playing for?
2009-10-04 15:36:00

Author:
rtm223
Posts: 6497


I know I bang on about this, but I spent 4 months on my only proper level.

I spent 5 months on my only proper level, and it only made it to page 2 for the last couple of days. But I'm not complaining...
2009-10-04 15:38:00

Author:
ARD
Posts: 4291


Exactly, the OP saying he spent a whole month on the level just makes me think "so what?", that's not actually a long time, and to complain that you only have several thousand plays is a bit of a foolish thing when some other creators get sweet FA.2009-10-04 15:44:00

Author:
rtm223
Posts: 6497


eh..... IT MAKES ME HAPPY OK! i dont know about you but seriously, when i only get to pg 2 i get insulted and think im just not good enough to impress the community! U DONT UNDERSTAND! what really makes me happy is too see that people like my levels! i play this game to have fun but without this copetitiveness, its borin to me, if Mm never made this system, then this game would have bord me to hell, n on that topic of me spellin, do any of you people understand slang? i dont look at the computer wen i type i cant its too hard!2009-10-04 15:52:00

Author:
Tawarf
Posts: 457


once you start gettin all these plays you get competitve and want to beat those you see as amazing! it becomes more fun! u really wanna surpass them, it makes you work really hard! the new level im makin right now, it has been favourd by all my friends, its been like a month and a half now and im not even halfway! face it lifes borin if you dont have obsticals to overcome2009-10-04 15:56:00

Author:
Tawarf
Posts: 457


Hmm lets see...I agree with rtm

Ive spent over a month on a few levels, they dont break the 3 digits...

Do I care? Not really, I play the game for fun, to see what I can build, not how many plays it gets. Would I like a billion plays and hearts? Yes, but im going to complain if i dont.

Ive been trying different level formats for every level I make:
Boss
Platformer
Boss Rush (Multiple bosses in one level)
Epic levels with scenery and what not
Now Im creating a music level with the guidance of my good buddy TheJollyRajah

I did make one level, a "Jump Challenge" to see how it would stand up against my other levels, turns out...it got 7000 plays within the first two days...meh

Im not really proud of it though, I spent maybe 3 hours on it, quite simple to make, which is why I dont feel like I accomplished anything.

Maybe you should play this game for fun and not for fake "hearts and stars"

Plus you can get your daily dose of hearts and stars in a bowl a Lucky Charms, like I do!
2009-10-04 16:32:00

Author:
King_Tubb
Posts: 435


eh..... IT MAKES ME HAPPY OK! i dont know about you but seriously, when i only get to pg 2 i get insulted and think im just not good enough to impress the community! U DONT UNDERSTAND! what really makes me happy is too see that people like my levels!

Well if your only measure of success is popularity, then maybe you haven't succeeded. Maybe you aren't good enough. I'm sorry if that sounds harsh but that is your measure of success. Not mine. At the end of the day you are saying that you deserve to be at the very very top of the pile, that you are that good that it is your right to be there. Being a "bad loser" is the phrase that fits here. It's even worse because the competition is in your head.

Also, bear in mind that the community doesn't play good levels, or well crafted levels or levels that have any particular merit. Some good levels do find favour, but the majority of the "best" levels, as viewed by the community, are complete tat. So the community not liking your level is no indicator of worth. Cool pages is a joke for the most part, especially the top pages.



I did make one level, a "Jump Challenge" to see how it would stand up against my other levels, turns out...it got 7000 plays within the first two days...meh

Im not really proud of it though, I spent maybe 3 hours on it, quite simple to make, which is why I dont feel like I accomplished anything.


Exactly my point. Getting plays is easy, getting plays for something really good is not. It's up to you. If all you care about is the plays then just look around cool pages, do some quick analysis and you can churn out the tat that the mainstream like very quickly.
2009-10-04 16:45:00

Author:
rtm223
Posts: 6497


i see that sjepap has just released story of the west! now all the attention goes to him just because hes like, OMG its sjepap!!!!!

Wow, I didn't know sjepap made a famous level... he's on my friends list by randomness...

I'll go on LBP and look at it now. :eek:
2009-10-04 16:45:00

Author:
S-A-S--G-U-N-R
Posts: 1606


AWWWWWW!!!! syrocs amazing! he just dosent republish as much as you should!

Just a note on this republishing trick - I have never used it, and my levels seem to get enough plays. The only time I republish is if something needs fixing. So don't assume that it's the only way to get plays.
2009-10-04 16:57:00

Author:
Nuclearfish
Posts: 927


I just tried sjepap's level and I don't see how it's bad at all...2009-10-04 17:02:00

Author:
S-A-S--G-U-N-R
Posts: 1606


Just a note on this republishing trick - I have never used it, and my levels seem to get enough plays. The only time I republish is if something needs fixing. So don't assume that it's the only way to get plays.
I USED to have to republish quite a bit more, but when you're known it becomes easier.

Regardless, some creators just have "it". "It" is the ability to hit the gameplay and mechanics nail right on the head - including difficulty tuned for the masses. That combined with the knowledge of WHEN to publish so that your level reaches the top at the right time for maximum exposure. There aren't really that many creators that can do this, but Wex is CERTAINLY one of them. Chances as 13 you do not have the experience Wexfordian has in his 30's... inclulding professional marketing and graphics experience.

I wouldn't put simplistic creators that publish 1000 times during the first day in the same category - they are generally what I call "shoving their level down the publics throat" and will normally catch enough of the kiddies to get tons of plays.

Personally, the community here helps me a lot. Splat III went up to page 1 for 2 solid days with minimal republishing. I just fixed issues as people reported them and republished and it went to the top.

One thing I found interesting... Splat III made it to page 1 with only 2000 plays while other levels around me needed close to 10,000 to do the same thing. So the amount of hearts and ratings REALLY make a difference - and Wex consistently pulls of good hearts and ratings with minimal plays at first.

(I purposely publish where it will get minimal attention on page 1 on purpose to target a specific older audience... so don't EVER expect my levels to get 40,000+ plays)
2009-10-04 17:07:00

Author:
CCubbage
Posts: 4430


I never republish. But I tested how effective it is with A Journey and republishing it once a day helped me to get over a thousand plays for the first time without the level being picked by MM.

PS: I won't advertise my next level just to see how few plays that would give me.
2009-10-04 17:27:00

Author:
Syroc
Posts: 3193


lol, this thread seems to have goten really big, well guys i honestly dont get me, yes i want to be at the very top top, oh course i do thats what all people want, but i dont take it as seriously as you say, you say people dont care, well heres a fact i do now seriously y do yuo keep making **** arguments on how you shoudlnt care! its my opineon! and i took the republishing trick from steve big guns and fijski8, thats just the way i do it, btw didnt i say in my first comment help me know how to become more famous like them? this means youve all been talking about the wrong thing! ur ment to be giving tips here on how i can create better and bring a bigger audience so i can knock people down like nuclearfish (no offence) y r people saying im arogent and stuff like that when its my opineon, i do what i want to do and you cant change that, if you have a problem with me asking how to get more plays n hearts then others then fine, but keep that to urself2009-10-04 18:17:00

Author:
Tawarf
Posts: 457


One thing I found interesting... Splat III made it to page 1 with only 2000 plays while other levels around me needed close to 10,000 to do the same thing. So the amount of hearts and ratings REALLY make a difference - and Wex consistently pulls of good hearts and ratings with minimal plays at first.


considering on thatr, i am friends with biddle666 and when he released scientific 4 he seemd not to do anything after 100 plays for a whole day and then suddly burt the thing out to the community... intresting... but now he republishes like i billion times a day like me lol!
2009-10-04 18:21:00

Author:
Tawarf
Posts: 457


when one of my hearted authors makes a level im normally very excited.

they expect the level to be awesome, becuse those people have a history of being epic.

just make ALL your levels epic. makes people keep coming back.
2009-10-04 18:29:00

Author:
mattbru77
Posts: 143


ok then, most of you are saying y do you always want so many plays, well y do we publish levels?seriously? what do we gain??? well if you publish a level aimlessly like most of you here and only get a few 1000 plays you be happy right, but say you work on a level 4.... 3 months say, like poms, and you released it and u only got like... 200 plays, id be pretty sad, and then id say to myslef, what the... but i worked so hard and this is my payment? think of it like money, you work so hard in your job and did everything you were told, plus extra. and you only got like say, 100$ (cant find pound sign) now wouldnt that feel as if all your work just went to waste???? youd ask your self, y a i doin all this for just 100$? its the same with plays n hearts. when i publish a level i expect to get the reward i deserve,get it now?2009-10-04 18:30:00

Author:
Tawarf
Posts: 457


u will, i promise and i start by my next level, Look out for the awakening by tawarf in the next month or so people2009-10-04 18:31:00

Author:
Tawarf
Posts: 457


I never said plays aren't important - I like getting plays also, but I care more about people enjoying my level more than getting plays. It's a personal choice, and some of the best creators in LittleBigPlanet are that way. For instance, MrSuperComputer and Jaeyden don't really care about huge volume - and I think technically they are 2 of the absolute most talented creators in LittleBigPlanet.

It all depends on priorities and how important building levels and collecting hearts and plays is in your life. I treat LittleBigPlanet as a game, and enjoy it - but there are MUCH more important things and in the end - I'm personally not going to sit at home all day publishing - if I have a day off I'm spending it taking my son to the park.

It sounds like you're taking this pretty seriously, but is it really going to matter one day when the popularity of the game wanes?

Interestingly, I think you'll find that discussing play count on this site is kind of a waste of time - most of us care more about eachother liking our creations than we do 100,000 screaming kids raising our play count. Play count doesn't really count much for popularity here - it's all about quality.
2009-10-04 18:43:00

Author:
CCubbage
Posts: 4430


"one day when the popularity of the game wanes?" - that's a very interesting subject. I'm curious when the fans (us!) are going to grow so tired of the sticker packs and crave the image import tool so much that riot is starting.2009-10-04 20:43:00

Author:
BasketSnake
Posts: 2391


Tawarf, at LBP Central we generally like to see good manners, modest attitudes and legible posting. Have you tried posting this thread on Gamefaqs? I'm sure you'll find some kindred spirits there and you'll find the scene much more to your liking.

Or perhaps you feel we're a little too snobbish here and we need to lower our standards to accomodate the less mature and less articulate members of the LBP community, in which case...

LMFAO@ TEH NOOB! U CARNT GET PLAYZ CUZ UR LEVEL SUX!
2009-10-04 21:15:00

Author:
Ungreth
Posts: 2130


The reason the creators you mentioned are able to get so many plays are because they are well known throughout the community. Honestly I have never even heard of you, and it seems you are like all the other annoying 13 year olds on LBP, you just want to become "famous" and have lots of hearts. But all that doesn't happen overnight, wexfordian has been building his popularity since last year. Also would it hurt if you spelled properly?2009-10-04 21:18:00

Author:
TheFirstAvenger
Posts: 787


Oh! i saw your level! it was OK, but a little... weird....
None the less great, 4 stars!
2009-10-05 01:40:00

Author:
chezhead
Posts: 1063


not another one of these threads
who cares if someone consistently beats you in plays
complaining about the matter will get you nowhere and i dont think anyone else on the forum gives a hoot if another creator has more plays excellent levels will get plays upon plays
2009-10-05 02:45:00

Author:
siccology
Posts: 279


I dont know what your complaining about. You said your level got on to the cool levels pages, even though it might have been for a few hours, you still would of got quite a few plays. Its a shame when talented creators make amazing levels but get swept away by the endless ' bombs are falling from the sky ' levels and that bloody ' THE MOST AMAZING LEVEL IN LBP!!!! WITH REAL WATER AT THE END AND IN AMAZING NEVER SEEN BEFORE 4D !!!! NOT JOKING!!!! (I really dont know how that level has got so many plays and hearts.) Whos ever heard of Faith_rip or pwn_artist?
They are amazing creators but only have a couple of hundred plays and a few hearts.

Also try to spell properly and not type in CAPS, it makes you seem less childish and people will take you more seriously.
2009-10-05 11:09:00

Author:
theamilien
Posts: 485


I don't really know how to react to this thread. First off, Im not going to apologise for having popular levels. For the record, My last level published was republished about 7/8 times with a few fixes each time. I created a thread here on the forum and had very little time (I went on holidays actually) to respond and keep that thread ticking along. It kept on ticking along without me. If people like to play my levels thats great but I've said a million and one times before that I create my levels for me and my fiancee to play. If anyone else enjoys them thats great. Im lucky enough to have made a LOT of friends from this site. If you hang out here and chat nicely with everyone you will see that this site is teaming with fantastic friendly people.

Chill out a little and just enjoy yourself. Its not purely about numbers.
2009-10-05 11:46:00

Author:
wexfordian
Posts: 1904


I don't see the problem, your levels have between 3500 and 25000 plays. Is that not popularity enough? A lot great creators don't even have that. My highest is 13000, but I average 3000/4000, and I'm over the moon with that. Plus your level is on cool levels, which for some would be a great enough reward as it is.

You should have seen the situation before they changed Cool Levels. You had next to no chance of getting on there. My first level had 50 plays after a week, I was overjoyed. None of the first two Siberia levels got on there, you really had work and promote levels back then to touch 100. When Siberia 3 got 300 plays and onto Cool Levels page 5 for the last two days I was ecstatic. Then the republishing trick came to light, and I used that on the levels after Part 3 and got them all on Cool Levels, which in turn increased the plays on the old one. I never used the trick for the last level, just fixing bugs that the people here found, plus the plays, was enough to stick it after 2 days.

I think you're creating for all the wrong reasons.
2009-10-05 12:01:00

Author:
GruntosUK
Posts: 1754


ARGH!!!!!! im honestlty starting to regret makin this stupid forum!!!!!! IM ASKING 4 HELP WITH HOW TO CREATE BETTER! what i mean is that, these creators somtims sweep my level away done and dusted and i do get quite annoyed about that! but im so happy now cause im so close to pg 1 with 4 days to spare!!!!! can a moderator just delete this thread plz! i already said everyone has their own opineone, when i see around 3000-5000 plays, i dont think its enough, but when i get over 6000 i become overjoyed with myslef. but what i find annoying is wen guntosUK only gets 4000 plays, he so much better then me and i still end up gettin more, i hate it so much!!!!!!2009-10-05 14:22:00

Author:
Tawarf
Posts: 457


Most of my levels have barely a couple hundred plays, and that's after being featured on MM's blog and the GOTY.

I hate to put it like this, but it looks like you've got some serious life lessons ahead of you. I tremble for this generation.
2009-10-05 14:24:00

Author:
Foofles
Posts: 2278


Its my stupid opineon and no i dont!!!!!!!!! Seriously! I just want 5000 plays and above! Is that too much to ask!!!!2009-10-05 14:25:00

Author:
Tawarf
Posts: 457


If you want help with how to become a better creator, then get your level in the level showcase and do some f4f, you will get tons of feedback from very skilled creators. But the feedback you will get will help you improve actual level quality, not # of plays. Depends what you actually want to improve.2009-10-05 14:28:00

Author:
rtm223
Posts: 6497


thankyou!!!! improving levels does get you more plays, hearts count as well so if you have like... 900 hearts while having 3000 plays, (which is almost impossible) then you will get to pg 1 for ages and get many plays and stuff. so i gota improve the standards of my level2009-10-05 14:30:00

Author:
Tawarf
Posts: 457


thxs guys, im so sorry for everything ive caused i wont be this horrible and ill mannerd in the future, sorry guyz2009-10-05 14:31:00

Author:
Tawarf
Posts: 457


Its my stupid opineon and no i dont!!!!!!!!! Seriously! I just want 5000 plays and above! Is that too much to ask!!!!

Yes, yes it is. Based on your attitude shown here, I have no desire to play your levels. I will play someone's level if they've actually put some effort into it based on their love of the game (not the attention it brings). This thread is beginning to disgust me. If you make a post here, and people try to help you understand where your thinking has gone awry, don't get defensive and challenge everything anyone says. You've made your point - you greedily desire plays and hearts. Why must you draw it out more?


thxs guys, im so sorry for everything ive caused i wont be this horrible and ill mannerd in the future, sorry guyz

Thank you. Are we done with this thread now?
2009-10-05 14:36:00

Author:
comphermc
Posts: 5338


and i dont spend my whole life at home on the ps3 republishing2009-10-05 14:36:00

Author:
Tawarf
Posts: 457


i do create levels for the love of the game, but sometimes, i just really wanna see a little credit gone to my levels, thats all2009-10-05 14:37:00

Author:
Tawarf
Posts: 457


i hope were done with this thread lol! i hate arguing!!!!2009-10-05 14:38:00

Author:
Tawarf
Posts: 457


plz play my levels by the way!2009-10-05 14:39:00

Author:
Tawarf
Posts: 457


I'm going to go ahead and close this. Our stance on the worth of play count has already been made clear multiple times, so if we haven't convinced you, then at the very least you shouldn't ask us to care what your play count is.2009-10-05 14:47:00

Author:
ConfusedCartman
Posts: 3729


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