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Wormhole's Elite LevelXxWormholexX
A level to be feared by all those who enter it...... the hardest level ever.....
all
The hardest level known to man kind. This level is for the best players in the world. It has 12 areas and 1 mega epic boss at the end. There is an infinite lives version also but that won't help much

If anyone beats this then they are God

Any questions? Just ask. I will do my best to give tips and I have also made a level to help with 3 parts at the beginning of the level. It's to the left of this level on my profile.

GL to all those who attempt this and please don't rate low for incompletion.

Here are some pictures for your viewing

http://www.lbpcentral.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=906&pictureid=7968
Area 8. Just before you start it there is a snowman. Don't you just wanna hug him??? HINT HINT.


http://www.lbpcentral.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=906&pictureid=7969
Area 9. Just befor the start you are at the Checkpoint.


http://www.lbpcentral.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=906&pictureid=7970
Area 10. At last you see an obstacle. It's mega fast so beware. The whole area is cloudy and white gasy.


http://www.lbpcentral.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=906&pictureid=7971
Area 11. The bridge to the end of the world. It's not hard to be honest but u may hit your head.


http://www.lbpcentral.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=906&pictureid=7974
After a slay ride directly after area 11, you end up at 2 pillars.


http://www.lbpcentral.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=906&pictureid=7973
This is how many Checkpoints you have. There are exactly 14 double life checkpoints. That's 112 lives. WOW. The boss must be hard.


http://www.lbpcentral.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=906&pictureid=7972
OMG!!! The boss. It seems alright but if you break it's barrier.... well.... let's hope you don't because he'll shift into rage mode and change a bit.... and the arena......


I hope you enjoyed these pictures.

This level has been updated many times.

Area 1: Inside
Area 2: Inside
Area 3: Inside
Area 4: Inside
Area 5: Inside
Area 6: Inside
Area 7: Inside
Area 7.5: Inside to outside on elevator
Area 8: Outside
Area 9: Outside
Area 10: Outside
Area 11: Outside
Area 12: Outside (BOSS)		2009-10-03 17:54:00

Author:
XxWormholexX
Posts: 101

Levels like this make me curious and i'd love to try it, it would be cooler if you'd give away a great reward so people keep trying it. I know being a god is cool but in the end nobody knows about you why not give away a cool prize or something2009-10-03 21:26:00

Author:
Kn0cked-0ut
Posts: 562

Hey XxWormholexX!

I doubt you'll get many responses here. There's only a very small amount of expert players at this site. But I myself on the other hand like it, plus I'm sure willtang and Festerd_Jester will stop by, lol.

It's true, the hardest level/extreme platformer in LBP.		2009-10-03 21:29:00

Author:
Unknown User

untrue
people enjoy a challenge
if done in good taste
nameing a level with "elite level" in it
just sounds like an unattractive series of rediculousness
ill play it if you can answer one question though
does this consist of any consecutive stream of random falling hazards		2009-10-03 21:43:00

Author:
Littlebigdude805
Posts: 1924

i must have replayed 100 times
just couldnt get past that first obstacle
why make a whole level if most people will quit on the first obstacle.		2009-10-03 22:04:00

Author:
Littlebigdude805
Posts: 1924

I made it that way for a reason. I want to know peoples true potential. I added a CP b4 area 5, 7 and on. All the obstacles r different and don't fail. I don't see anything being a worthy prize in any level so I don't give prizes at the end of my levels. I think Willtang gave up tho. He says it's rediculas. Don't 4get the inf life 1. What could be a worthy prize 4 beating this anyway? Suggestions?2009-10-03 23:13:00

Author:
XxWormholexX
Posts: 101

well i'm the furthest in it so far.......
its tough....................lol		2009-10-03 23:18:00

Author:
willtang1134
Posts: 13

I'll never give up on it....... lol
Ur funny worm.
n' forget about prizes at end worm lol
Just beating it... is a prize on its own!!
That's my suggestion...		2009-10-03 23:22:00

Author:
willtang1134
Posts: 13

I agree Willy. lol. Willy.
I got to area 6 Will. the 1st plat in it. How about you?		2009-10-03 23:46:00

Author:
XxWormholexX
Posts: 101

i must have replayed 100 times
just couldnt get past that first obstacle
why make a whole level if most people will quit on the first obstacle.

Because these levels are made for expert players. We like these levels. You're not the only one that plays LBP.

As for the elite label, that's because these levels truely are elite/expert and only for the best players. We like a challenge.

We do not go around wondering why there are so many easy levels in LBP because we realize there are players of different skill levels. So it's good that there's something for everyone. ^_~		2009-10-04 00:12:00

Author:
Unknown User

i just dont see the fun =/
i do get alittle thrill from makeing it
but not after dieing millions of times
anyway
since i only saw the begginging
i only have two peices of advise
easier begginging: if the begginging is just abit easier than more people will continue on to play rather than return to pod after dieing 20 times

infinite life START point: the spawn point in this is the basic 4 lives which isnt nearly enough for most players, Which makes the player restart every four times they die. not fun lol.

just got an idea
maby each obstacle can have a sticker or a code that allows you to skip it that you receive on completion so that players can "save" there progress.		2009-10-04 01:49:00

Author:
Littlebigdude805
Posts: 1924

That's not a bad idea. I thought about the inf life b4 and i'll do that. But i like the save thing. i would have to drastically change the level tho. I could make a dissolve path in the level too. But then there's 3 parts in the level that can't be skipped. And there's also the fact that by having the save thing, it gets easier and easier as you go on and people should be forced to do certain parts. By the time that's all done, it will be about October 24 due to my bro hogging the ps3 lately and i am restricted to weekends. I'll think about the 2nd option.2009-10-04 02:07:00

Author:
XxWormholexX
Posts: 101

i just dont see the fun =/
i do get alittle thrill from makeing it
but not after dieing millions of times
anyway
since i only saw the begginging
i only have two peices of advise
easier begginging: if the begginging is just abit easier than more people will continue on to play rather than return to pod after dieing 20 times

infinite life START point: the spawn point in this is the basic 4 lives which isnt nearly enough for most players, Which makes the player restart every four times they die. not fun lol.

just got an idea
maby each obstacle can have a sticker or a code that allows you to skip it that you receive on completion so that players can "save" there progress.

Because you're not an expert player, so of course you're not going to see the fun in it.

As for the other things you said, it's suppose to be like that. If the things you mentioned were added then it'd be easier than it's suppose to be. I will say that infinite checkpoints isn't bad, but then again I'm not sure what to think of that idea.


That's not a bad idea. I thought about the inf life b4 and i'll do that. But i like the save thing. i would have to drastically change the level tho. I could make a dissolve path in the level too. But then there's 3 parts in the level that can't be skipped. And there's also the fact that by having the save thing, it gets easier and easier as you go on and people should be forced to do certain parts. By the time that's all done, it will be about October 24 due to my bro hogging the ps3 lately and i am restricted to weekends. I'll think about the 2nd option.

If you do any of that it will make the level easier. How about just makiing a copy of the level and doing those things mentioned and have it be the easier version. So you can have a harder version and less harder version.		2009-10-04 04:00:00

Author:
Unknown User

I do have an inf life level version so i guess i wont add that feature. but i will add the inf at start.2009-10-04 04:33:00

Author:
XxWormholexX
Posts: 101

expert player? whats that supposed to mean.
look the point of the game is to have fun
which most people wont have when there stuck on the same spot because the creater wants to do something that swerves away from the norm.
not likeing that kinda of thing shouldnt automatically mean your not an expert.

i played the level
i tolerated it as long as i could
and gave some nice feedback
like a good little lbpc member

^^^all that isnt aimed at you wormhole, your being cool about this^^^

its ok for a level to be insanely hard like this but i just suggest some kinda of progress save system
the point of makeing a level is that people will play through it after all right?		2009-10-04 04:54:00

Author:
Littlebigdude805
Posts: 1924

I completely agree about the save thing. im unsure what to do right now. i need time.2009-10-04 05:22:00

Author:
XxWormholexX
Posts: 101

eh doesnt need to be save every obstacle
could be every three
just something to keep the player comeing back right?		2009-10-04 05:50:00

Author:
Littlebigdude805
Posts: 1924

If I should describe this level with only two words they would be Fun and Frustration.
The start was too easy, it got even easier with those red platforms, the stair took around twenty tries, and after that it was impossible for me. Why the bad ratings on the level? It's awesome!		2009-10-04 08:05:00

Author:
Draggy
Posts: 51

expert player? whats that supposed to mean.
look the point of the game is to have fun
which most people wont have when there stuck on the same spot because the creater wants to do something that swerves away from the norm.
not likeing that kinda of thing shouldnt automatically mean your not an expert.

i played the level
i tolerated it as long as i could
and gave some nice feedback
like a good little lbpc member

^^^all that isnt aimed at you wormhole, your being cool about this^^^

its ok for a level to be insanely hard like this but i just suggest some kinda of progress save system
the point of makeing a level is that people will play through it after all right?

You don't know what the word expert means? Expert is a skill level, or knowledge level.

And what do you mean Wormhole is being cool about this, like I'm doing something wrong. I am nicely trying to explain something to you that you don't seem to understand. Most understand this. You don't even have to be a part of the Spotlight Crew to be mature enough to understand and respect the purpose of different difficulty levels in LBP.

Levels like this are fun to us. Just because something's not fun to you, doesn't mean it's not fun to others.

Also, as for the save thing, you'll notice in my last post I mentioned that making a copy of level to add the easier stuff you mentioned for the easier version of level, might be an idea for him.

As for your comment saying not liking that shouldn't automatically mean you're not an expert, well, if you were an expert you wouldn't be complaining about something that's not that hard, not that hard if you're an expert. There is nothing insulting about the difference between beginner players, average/normal players, advanced players, and expert players. Every sport and game has experts. It's a universal word, not an insult.

Extreme platforming takes years of practice and dedication to what we love just the same as any sport/game, and LBP provides the ultimate platforming experience because it can be tuned for any style or difficulty desired.		2009-10-04 09:47:00

Author:
Unknown User

Well I tried to play it tonight but couldn't get that first jump accomplished. I've got nothing against hard levels and if this is you vision that's cool. I'll maybe try it again later. I'd like to think I'm pretty good at LBP but would never claim to be an expert myself. Good luck finishing it to future players. 2009-10-04 09:58:00

Author:
Morgana25
Posts: 5983

well see you just prove my point
havin a cow over me doing what im supposed to do
now let me say this again but in better detail
i dont really believe in this "skill" in lbp
i do understand that there are different levels of players though
i know people who cant seem to use the simplist logic in lbp
but i also know people who have played this since release
and they can do extremely hard stuff like this
do they like it?
no
does that opinion alone strip them of expertise?
nope
now you've seem have said this whole "your not the only one who plays lbp"
so your telling me to be more open minded...while totally shooting down all my recomendations and saying NO THAT WOULD MAKE IT EASY DONT LISTEN TO HIM HES NOT AN "EXPERT" LIKE US.		2009-10-04 15:52:00

Author:
Littlebigdude805
Posts: 1924

RIGHT. Littlebigdude, you aare completely misunderstanding what she is saying, You are being extremely closed minded i have been watching this for a long time and i think its time i got "dragged" into it, You are saying Because some people can't do it, automatically means he should make it easier... there 3 Social Groups for this type of "elite" player, and just because you cant do the first obstacle means that he should ruin the gameplay by adding a save system


You seem to be targeting S3xnstilletos because she said the level is intended for Expert Platformers, SHE DIDNT SAY EXPERT LBP PLAYERS, you are acting like the Little Big world revolves around what you say		2009-10-04 17:12:00

Author:
Kern
Posts: 5078

uhg
are you even reading what i say
or do you just skip over once
then add in what you think i said
im done
im not letting this escelate any longer
if you dont wanna listen i wont waste my time on such hard headed people who are argueing against a reveiwer on a level that they didnt even make.
so if you dont mind just let the creator and me continue.

anyway,wormhole, a save system wont make it any easier.
i believe it will give the player a reason to come back and continue
i dont know too many people who would come back after gettiing half way through then haveing to leave.		2009-10-04 17:34:00

Author:
Littlebigdude805
Posts: 1924

Yes i am reading what you say are you even reading waht i say?


maybe if you stopped entering after every 5 words it would make it easier for us to read!		2009-10-04 17:38:00

Author:
Kern
Posts: 5078

well see you just prove my point
havin a cow over me doing what im supposed to do
now let me say this again but in better detail
i dont really believe in this "skill" in lbp
i do understand that there are different levels of players though
i know people who cant seem to use the simplist logic in lbp
but i also know people who have played this since release
and they can do extremely hard stuff like this
do they like it?
no
does that opinion alone strip them of expertise?
nope
now you've seem have said this whole "your not the only one who plays lbp"
so your telling me to be more open minded...while totally shooting down all my recomendations and saying NO THAT WOULD MAKE IT EASY DONT LISTEN TO HIM HES NOT AN "EXPERT" LIKE US.

You just said do they like it, and answered that with no. Just because people you know don't like it doesn't mean no one does. All of the expert players love the level, and that's why it was made for us. If we didn't like it we wouldn't play it. Are you even listening to yourself? I'm trying to be nice and explain something you don't seem to be getting. Even Wormhole knows what I'm talking about. Somehow you're getting things twisted. If you saw Morgana's post you would see that she gets what I'm saying (If you're reading this Morgana, no I am not trying to bring you into this or anything about you agreeing with anyone, just your post of understanding is all for referrence ). You're just taking it the wrong way due to a failure to understand what I'm saying. No one is having a cow, and no one said your ideas are bad. I'll say it a third time, that your ideas would do great in an easier version of the level for people of your skill level. An expert has nothing to do with logic and all that stuff, as I am not referring to an expert creator. I am referring to an expert platformist/player.

You said . . .

but i also know people who have played this since release
and they can do extremely hard stuff like this
do they like it?
no

If they play extremely hard levels and they don't like it (assuming the dislike is from difficulty), then they aren't experts and obviously should not be playing them if they don't like it.
*facepalm* lol

You said . . .

i dont really believe in this "skill" in lbp
i do understand that there are different levels of players though

You contradicted yourself there. You don't believe in this skill and followed that by a confused emoticon. Then you say you understand there are different levels of players.

You also said . . .

now you've seem have said this whole "your not the only one who plays lbp"
so your telling me to be more open minded...while totally shooting down all my recomendations and saying NO THAT WOULD MAKE IT EASY DONT LISTEN TO HIM HES NOT AN "EXPERT" LIKE US.

No one shot down your ideas. This will be the third time in a row I'll have to bring to your attention me saying a copy can be made with all of the easier fixes you mentioned that could be the easier version so that way everyone is happy, but it's like you're not even reading it. On top of that you keep twisting my words around making them sound bad when I never said any of those things like you have in caps lock.

Ah forget it, if someone doesn't have a certain level of understanding, then it is pointless trying to explain it to them. I'm just summing this up as 'you're probably a young kid that hasn't developed enough yet to grasp a better understanding of things or just someone that's immature'. I have been nice and tried to help you understand something, but ah well. I'm just glad none of the other expert players have seen this thread yet. Hopefully if they do, they won't post hostily towards you and be mature enough to realize that you not understanding this even after explaination is probably due to the development of the brain, which isn't meant to be an insult as every young kid goes through that, if you are young, although some are ahead of their years. I say this because those players including myself have great pride in their occupation/hobby/sport.

When it comes down to it, it could simply be something you've never been exposed to.		2009-10-04 17:52:00

Author:
Unknown User

Ok seriously? You say your not trying to insult me. Then you almost clearly insult me by saying theres somthing wrong with my mind in almost every other sentence in that last paragraph.

Look i dont know why you cant except the fact that i just dont like this style. For some reason you just keep trying to push and make up extremely rude reasons for why i dont.

Im the one who lacks understanding? think about it.		2009-10-04 18:35:00

Author:
Littlebigdude805
Posts: 1924

to steal a joke, "throws S3xNstilettos a flame shield"2009-10-04 18:47:00

Author:
Kern
Posts: 5078

"Ah forget it, if someone doesn't have a certain level of understanding, then it is pointless trying to explain it to them. I'm just summing this up as 'you're probably a young kid that hasn't developed enough yet to grasp a better understanding of things or just someone that's immature'. I have been nice and tried to help you understand something, but ah well. I'm just glad none of the other expert players have seen this thread yet. Hopefully if they do, they won't post hostily towards you and be mature enough to realize that you not understanding this even after explaination is probably due to the development of the brain, which isn't meant to be an insult as every young kid goes through that, if you are young, although some are ahead of their years. I say this because those players including myself have great pride in their occupation/hobby/sport."

I found this to be a bit insulting to littlebigdude.
Let's forget all of these arguments.

I will add a save feature for ONLY the hardest areas in the level that will take eons to beat. Example. area 6. It's the hardest area in the level. I have beaten this obstacle 3 times on my moon.

The save will be available for the obstacles I chose and obtained after you beat the area. I will have this feature done by Saturday. Cant play till friday.		2009-10-04 19:08:00

Author:
XxWormholexX
Posts: 101

I can't seem to quote thing using the quote message thing. srry for double post.2009-10-04 19:09:00

Author:
XxWormholexX
Posts: 101

thank you very much

your compromise sounds like the best possible solution		2009-10-04 19:11:00

Author:
Littlebigdude805
Posts: 1924

uhg
are you even reading what i say
or do you just skip over once
then add in what you think i said
im done
im not letting this escelate any longer
if you dont wanna listen i wont waste my time on such hard headed people who are argueing against a reveiwer on a level that they didnt even make.
so if you dont mind just let the creator and me continue.

anyway,wormhole, a save system wont make it any easier.
i believe it will give the player a reason to come back and continue
i dont know too many people who would come back after gettiing half way through then haveing to leave.

Littlebigdude, they were reading your posts and they are not hard headed. They were just saying something like this.

It is meant for elite but anyone can play it.

You also seemed confused with what they meant. I don't want to be mean, honest.

Not everyone likes hard levels (we all know that now do we )

Well, i hope all of these problems are solved and we can be happy once again. 		2009-10-04 19:34:00

Author:
XxWormholexX
Posts: 101

yea i guess i misread in some spots
but they were clearly takeing my posts to a whole nother deal
kinda feel stupid fighting over such a topic 		2009-10-04 20:11:00

Author:
Littlebigdude805
Posts: 1924

Thank you Wormhole for ending that.

I'm sorry to report that I could not find your level or your screen name when I searched for it. I'll give your level a try if it comes up, or you could post a message on one of my levels so I can find you, just let me know which one.		2009-10-05 04:45:00

Author:
Powershifter
Posts: 668

I could'nt even get the past the start lol, I had 4 attempts. I'm not an expert player, in fact I think I must suck

Its a shame that I had to rate the level, I gave it three stars, people that are good at these type of levels will no doubt love it, it just wasn't for me I'm afraid 		2009-10-05 11:50:00

Author:
GruntosUK
Posts: 1754

I could'nt even get the past the start lol, I had 4 attempts. I'm not an expert player, in fact I think I must suck

Its a shame that I had to rate the level, I gave it three stars, people that are good at these type of levels will no doubt love it, it just wasn't for me I'm afraid

You must use the same method I use. If I have to quit a level early without seeing much, I'll give it 3 stars which is the fairest possible since you have to rate.

As for not making it past starting area, believe me, everyone struggles with that, though we can pass it, but after many tries in most cases.

And no one sucks.
Think of it this way, you and anyone else that has, tried the hardest level in LBP, literally, which is pretty cool considering that the Spotlight Crew has seen countless levels of all varieties in LBP. 		2009-10-05 12:08:00

Author:
Unknown User

Thats why I'm all for not being able to rate a level unless you can actually finish it. I'm with you though, 3* seems the fairest thing to do in those circumstances.2009-10-05 12:26:00

Author:
GruntosUK
Posts: 1754

your not the only one who cant get past the start2009-10-05 17:02:00

Author:
Kern
Posts: 5078

I snuck my comp on. short n sweet. I love the start. mostly luck. search @XxWormholexX for me. Gl to all! 2009-10-05 19:40:00

Author:
XxWormholexX
Posts: 101

I made a save feature for all but the last area. PLEASE MESSAGE ME BY PS3 SO I MAY GIVE YOU STICKER! Btw, i will give u a number. i will tell you when i pub a level with a missing number. go in it and use number. GL!2009-10-23 23:04:00

Author:
XxWormholexX
Posts: 101

Thats why I'm all for not being able to rate a level unless you can actually finish it. I'm with you though, 3* seems the fairest thing to do in those circumstances.

Actually, when you don't really want to rate a level, the fairest you can do is to not touch the stars and give the actual score that pops up. It's the fairest way because it is the way it will affect the level's score the less mathematically speaking. It's like you vote exactly on the average, you're not upping or lowering the score at all. Voting 3 on a 1,2,4 or 5 stars level would be less fair that my suggestion.

.		2009-10-24 04:12:00

Author:
RangerZero
Posts: 3901

this sounds good i will probobly try this when i get on LBP2009-10-24 13:03:00

Author:
lbpholic
Posts: 1304

I added on 1st post from the line saying new pics to the very last line on the 1st post.

Well, i hope all of you are satisfied with the new pics n changes i made. GL!		2009-10-26 04:06:00

Author:
XxWormholexX
Posts: 101

Actually, when you don't really want to rate a level, the fairest you can do is to not touch the stars and give the actual score that pops up. It's the fairest way because it is the way it will affect the level's score the less mathematically speaking. It's like you vote exactly on the average, you're not upping or lowering the score at all. Voting 3 on a 1,2,4 or 5 stars level would be less fair that my suggestion.

.

That is an average based on what other people rated the level, so voting for what pops up without changing the stars is unfair, because technically you're saying "I'ts more fair to rate it the way everyone else did even though I haven't played much of the level."

3 stars is the fairest thing you can do in such ba case because it's half way between good and bad, like nuetral. If the level's average is 2 stars or 1, then going with what automatically pops up would technically be saying the level was bad, but you haven't played it to know. And most of the bad ratings, almost all are from the people that unfairly rate based off of it being too difficult. It would be the same if the level averaged at 4 or 5 stars, if you haven't played enough, then agreeing with the average that pops up without touching stars is like saying the level was good when you don't know.		2009-10-30 21:27:00

Author:
Unknown User

Oh God, this thread is one argument after another

Talk about this on the ratings system thread. The only thing everyone seems to agree onis the rating system sucks

As for the level, That first section is insane lol. Didn't yo say something about an infinite lives version? I'm sure I could beat it with practice...		2009-10-30 21:41:00

Author:
Incinerator22
Posts: 3251

The inf lives has no save. If you show proof n i will c if its the inf live level, i wont give you a sticker for the inf proof sticker you show. I already made the 11 srickers. i put them in a d matter complex at the side of level (realy above start n under boss) so i may get it by copy paste at start for handing out. Plus, the non inf version has a cooler start .

Why do people argue on my thread? Might as well name it the Complain all you want thread..... Lol. I should make a thread for that.		2009-11-01 01:56:00

Author:
XxWormholexX
Posts: 101

Yeah, the ratings system is broken.

And yes, he has an infinite lives version of the level, plus his non-infinite one has a save system now I think.		2009-11-01 01:56:00

Author:
Unknown User

Yea. the non inf has save. the inf does not because you have inf lives. makes sence doesnt it . ps, if im not on ur friends list, take ur pic, export to HDD, send a message to me, attach picture from ps3.2009-11-01 02:37:00

Author:
XxWormholexX
Posts: 101

Woahhhh, this one was beyond difficult.
I didn't finish
or get past the first bit.
I suck 		2009-11-01 02:39:00

Author:
Coxy224
Posts: 2645

No you don't. Even the best of the best have trouble. I figured out the exact jump point.2009-11-01 22:24:00

Author:
XxWormholexX
Posts: 101

Good Lord, that was absolutely sadistic. I "tried" playing this level last night and couldn't for the life of me get past that first jump. Worm, you're awesome. Too awesome for words. I'm not worthy to even look upon your sackboy feet.2009-11-06 18:29:00

Author:
SHENOA77
Posts: 184

LOL. I know how Willtang1134 feels now. It's hard for me too but I figured a little trick.... if you will... 75% shot to make it. You can do it . I'm thinking of removing the save thing cause it's like the inf but it saves time when you pass an area. Maybe i'll just add a few more lives at spots. DEFINITELY INF AT AREA 6.2009-11-07 05:27:00

Author:
XxWormholexX
Posts: 101


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