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i mean. MMR is a racing game (wich most people like more then platformers (not me though)). and it's 3d. i know there will still be tons of people playing LBP. but MMR wil surely take the spotlight away from Sackboy what do you think?

2009-09-27 03:26:00 Author: Mopthefloo Posts: 139

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Nope. As far as I can see MNR only allows you to place premade objects like trees and houses alongside a track that you map out. Not nearly the same as LBP. While it may well be popular, I can't see it having quite the same appeal as LBP.

2009-09-27 03:28:00 Author: Matt 82 Posts: 1096

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No, LBP will keep gettng updated with new things so I think people will keep coming back. Also, LBP is in 3D

2009-09-27 03:29:00 Author: S-A-S--G-U-N-R Posts: 1606

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true. but i guess we'll find out soon enough

2009-09-27 03:30:00 Author: Mopthefloo Posts: 139

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I don't know anyone who cares about MNR, honestly. All you can make are racetracks.

2009-09-27 03:31:00 Author: Jagrevi Posts: 1154

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Nope. As far as I can see MNR only allows you to place premade objects like trees and houses alongside a track that you map out. Not nearly the same as LBP. While it may well be popular, I can't see it having quite the same appeal as LBP. ...and make lakes, mountains, have different themes, customisable characters, customisable vehicles and an online comunity with a rating system. But, still I think LBP will remain more popular. (Not saying that MNR won't be awesome though ) I don't know anyone who cares about MNR, honestly. All you can make are racetracks. What, are you serious? Why is there an MNR Central then? MNR looks like a really fun game, in my oppinion anyway.

2009-09-27 03:32:00 Author: S-A-S--G-U-N-R Posts: 1606

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MNR looks very cool, but in my opinion, LBP offers a lot more possibilities, is way more appealing visually, and Sackboys looks better than the MNR characters...

2009-09-27 03:44:00 Author: dajdaj03 Posts: 1486

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eh its cool looking but cmon..its a raceing game..that you can edit abit. lbp is a whole nother world where the only boundaries are in your imagination and anything can be done and the possibilities are endless and it all looks so real, when i first saw videos of lbp i thought wow this looks like really smooth stop motion! it looks more real than any game ive ever seen. MNR on the other hand is 3d yea but theres no texture, im sure it will lure some people over but lbp will come out ontop plus all these cool DLC that are comeing will upstage it. honestly im kinda hopeing MNR will take away some of the "less talented" people in LBP you know the majority of coolpages? lol plus sackboy is the cutest little thing to ever live i mean look at this -->

2009-09-27 03:46:00 Author: Littlebigdude805 Posts: 1924

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What, are you serious? Why is there an MNR Central then? Because there are people who I don't know who care about it and people who I don't know care about it, obviously. The scope of my knowledge of people and their wants is limited - I in no way intended to imply the game will sell absolutely no copies whatsoever in one of the biggest flukes of game marketing history. I don't know any Hindus either, but I'm entirely sure they exist in massive numbers and presumably have many websites about Hinduism.

2009-09-27 03:47:00 Author: Jagrevi Posts: 1154

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Because there are people who I don't know who care about it and people who I don't know care about it, obviously. The scope of my knowledge of people and their wants is limited - I in no way intended to imply the game will sell absolutely no copies whatsoever in one of the biggest flukes of game marketing history. I don't know any Hindus either, but I'm entirely sure they exist in massive numbers and presumably have many websites about Hinduism. But there is a link to MNR Central at the top right of the page...

2009-09-27 03:50:00 Author: S-A-S--G-U-N-R Posts: 1606

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But there is a link to MNR Central at the top right of the page... How would that make me know anyone whose interested in it though unless I clicked it? (except, of course, now, obviously you)

2009-09-27 03:51:00 Author: Jagrevi Posts: 1154

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They're really for different kinds of gamers. LBP attracts those who want to be able to customize everything, while MNR is for people that want more "focused" creation. Trust me, I have heard of plenty of people who view LBP's creation feature as daunting, including most of my friends, so a simpler editor with a focus on one type of "level" seems like a much better creative option for them. Not like the opinions here would be biased or anything...

2009-09-27 03:51:00 Author: ConfusedCartman Posts: 3729

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How would that make me know anyone whose interested in it though unless I clicked it? (and, of course now, obviously you) sigh.......................

2009-09-27 03:56:00 Author: S-A-S--G-U-N-R Posts: 1606

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People who like platforming are not synonymous with people who like kart racing. They do feature the same type of creation tools and premise, but people who like platforming are still going to play LittleBigPlanet. I for one am not going to drop LittleBigPlanet the second that Modnation Racers comes out. I'll definitely buy it, but as I've stated many times before, LittleBigPlanet is here to stay, and I'll be playing it for a long time.

2009-09-27 04:00:00 Author: BSprague Posts: 2325

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All good games die eventually. Burnout Paradise, Call of Duty 4, Sims 2... it's inevitable one day LittleBIGPlanet will hand the torch over. Will ModNation Racers take that torch?: No. Not even close. The reason MNR is getting praise is because of it's simplistic track editor and that it's under the same genre as LBP: Play, Create, Share. If it wasn't for LBP, MNR wouldn't have gotten the support from Sony. MNR is, to me, a branch-off of LBP. It has the same idea going for it, but only takes it to one genre. Just one. Whereas LBP, it focuses on ALL genres (that exist on a platforming plane, might I remind you). In fact, LBP practically saved the platforming genre from extinction and revolutionized user-generated content. Kart-Racing, though could make due with improvements, has never been in any dire situation; Mario Kart, for example, is the highest selling game in HISTORY. So I wouldn't worry 'bout that. Don't sweat, you worry-wart: LBP will always stay. Plus, with water coming along in a few days/weeks/months/years, more people will be drawn into our, well, little-big planet.

2009-09-27 04:08:00 Author: Outlaw-Jack Posts: 5757

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Nope. In fact, I kind of felt the comparison of MNR to LBP at E3 insulting. I mean, LBP is just on an entirely different level when it comes to user created content. That said, they are very different games and I'm sure MNR will have some great community tracks.

2009-09-27 04:55:00 Author: mrsupercomputer Posts: 1335

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Modnation Racers could be for kart racers what LBP is for platformers. This except you probably won't have enough freedom in Modnation Racer to actually create mini-games that are something else than racing. Then again, it all depends what our options are. I can't wait to get my hands in the beta. Either way, Modnation Racers offering as much liberty or not is irrelevant. It would never replace LBP because each game tackles a different genre. .

2009-09-27 07:42:00 Author: RangerZero Posts: 3901

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Since i find racing games BOORING (except the mario karts but thats because of the items) i don't even bother with it.

2009-09-27 09:22:00 Author: Flame Dragon Posts: 312

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I hope and expect MNR to take us back to Mario Kart. So I'll be checking out user created levels. If it's fun I'll play it.

2009-09-27 09:51:00 Author: BasketSnake Posts: 2391

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LBP isn't just platforming Probably one of the greatest things about LBP. There are many levels out there which require you to do absolutely no platforming, but are still really fun! I can't see people NOT racing in MNR. You also can't create stuff from scratch in MNR. Judging from the E3 videos, it only seems you can place already made objects. Which limits you in oh so many ways, even more than the thermometer!

2009-09-27 13:34:00 Author: snowyjoe Posts: 509

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On topic: no Off topic: Jagrevi's funny

2009-09-27 13:51:00 Author: rtm223 Posts: 6497

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Personally, i cannot see MNR having any staying power at all. I may be wrong, but it looks as if you are fairly limited in to what you can actually create. LBP on the other hand has almost limitless possibilities and always something fun and original to play.

2009-09-27 14:14:00 Author: Mr_T-Shirt Posts: 1477

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On topic: no Off topic: Jagrevi's funny Agreed and agreed. Hinduism line = best example ever. MNR will be fun but in no way will be have the kind of scope LBP does, after all it is just a racing game. There's only so many different ways you can make a racing track really.

2009-09-27 18:40:00 Author: jackofcourse Posts: 1494

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All good games die eventually. Burnout Paradise, Call of Duty 4, Sims 2... it's inevitable one day LittleBIGPlanet will hand the torch over. Will ModNation Racers take that torch?: No. Not even close. The reason MNR is getting praise is because of it's simplistic track editor and that it's under the same genre as LBP: Play, Create, Share. If it wasn't for LBP, MNR wouldn't have gotten the support from Sony. MNR is, to me, a branch-off of LBP. It has the same idea going for it, but only takes it to one genre. Just one. Whereas LBP, it focuses on ALL genres (that exist on a platforming plane, might I remind you). In fact, LBP practically saved the platforming genre from extinction and revolutionized user-generated content. Kart-Racing, though could make due with improvements, has never been in any dire situation; Mario Kart, for example, is the highest selling game in HISTORY. So I wouldn't worry 'bout that. Don't sweat, you worry-wart: LBP will always stay. Plus, with water coming along in a few days/weeks/months/years, more people will be drawn into our, well, little-big planet. This. Modnation Racers could be for kart racers what LBP is for platformers. This except you probably won't have enough freedom in Modnation Racer to actually create mini-games that are something else than racing. Then again, it all depends what our options are. I can't wait to get my hands in the beta. Either way, Modnation Racers offering as much liberty or not is irrelevant. It would never replace LBP because each game tackles a different genre. . LBP is all genres. So you can't say LBP is to platformers what MNR is to racing, otherwise that's like saying LBP is limited to platforming like MNR is limited to racing. The options and scope provided in LBP far outdo MNR. Anyways, I plan on getting MNR at some point. It could be a very fun game, and I like the play, create, share thing, even though I know it won't be near as open ended as LBP.

2009-09-27 18:50:00 Author: Unknown User

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LBP a thing of the past, maybe some day, or all the H4Hers will leave and play MNR instead

2009-09-27 20:32:00 Author: springs86 Posts: 785

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Since i find racing games BOORING (except the mario karts but thats because of the items) i don't even bother with it. Modnation Racers has some pretty amazing looking power-ups/weapons/items from what I can tell. That "million rocket blast" power-up was absolutely insane looking, it reminded me of "The Jericho" from Iron Man.

2009-09-27 21:28:00 Author: BSprague Posts: 2325

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LBP is all genres. So you can't say LBP is to platformers what MNR is to racing, otherwise that's like saying LBP is limited to platforming like MNR is limited to racing. The options and scope provided in LBP far outdo MNR. Anyways, I plan on getting MNR at some point. It could be a very fun game, and I like the play, create, share thing, even though I know it won't be near as open ended as LBP. [/COLOR] LBP is more open than Modnation Racers (at least with the info we have so far) but people seem to limit MR possibilities way too much. First of all, it's too early to judge and many people don't see racing as something deep while it totally is. Don't ask yourself why there's so many different tracks and kind of racing in real life. Also, if you add to this the possible interactions with the envirronement and the strategy and gameplay implied by weapons and power-up, you're already ALOT further in possibilities than with racing in real life. I mean, Modnation Racer could last FREAKING LONG. As long as LBP given they always add stuff to it. It's rare LBP isn't a platformer. In 99% of the levels you're still a sackboy that jumps in a 4 axes scrolling environnement. The only levels where it changes genres are those levels that are like shooters and sackboy is seemlessly hidden behind the scenery. (therefore giving the impression you're controlling a vessel of some kind). As for Modnation Racers, you MIGHT be able to pull of levels that aren't really racing either. Depends how open are the different modes and options. Right now, nobody is having enough knowlegde on the game in order to answer this question. That's why I defent MNR from people already dismissing it or removing some importance to it. Just from the top of might head, it could be possibly to make Gripshift-like levels maybe. Anyhow, I can't wait to see what will happen and the beta, etc. .

2009-09-27 21:29:00 Author: RangerZero Posts: 3901

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LBP is more open than Modnation Racers (at least with the info we have so far) but people seem to limit MR possibilities way too much. First of all, it's too early to judge and many people don't see racing as something deep while it totally is. Don't ask yourself why there's so many different tracks and kind of racing in real life. Also, if you add to this the possible interactions with the envirronement and the strategy and gameplay implied by weapons and power-up, you're already ALOT further in possibilities than with racing in real life. I mean, Modnation Racer could last FREAKING LONG. As long as LBP given they always add stuff to it. It's rare LBP isn't a platformer. In 99% of the levels you're still a sackboy that jumps in a 4 axes scrolling environnement. The only levels where it changes genres are those levels that are like shooters and sackboy is seemlessly hidden behind the scenery. (therefore giving the impression you're controlling a vessel of some kind). As for Modnation Racers, you MIGHT be able to pull of levels that aren't really racing either. Depends how open are the different modes and options. Right now, nobody is having enough knowlegde on the game in order to answer this question. That's why I defent MNR from people already dismissing it or removing some importance to it. Just from the top of might head, it could be possibly to make Gripshift-like levels maybe. Anyhow, I can't wait to see what will happen and the beta, etc. . True, we don't know enough about it. But even then the chances of it providing as many options as LBP is very slim. But we'll see when it comes out. As for platforming, only around 70 to 80 something percent of levels (possibly less, though I'd say around 70 something) in LBP are platformers. Most of the survival challenges are not platformers. One mistake many people assume is that just because you are on foot and moving in some way while avoiding death that it must be a platformer, which is not true. Even boss levels like Danmaku Rave, and any boss where you are on foot dodging things like plasma, I have heard people call it a platformer, but it isn't. Sure, most of that stuff requires some platforming skills, though a lot are not platformers. EDIT: Okay, maybe 80 something, lol.

2009-09-27 21:56:00 Author: Unknown User

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Anyways, that percentage sure can't be science as game genres are subjective. Let's just not forget that there are survival parts, racing parts in MANY platformers. I mean, LBP still fundamentally is a platformer for me unless your gameplay is drastically different. You can easily pull of genres that are branching from platformers though. If we'd want to be really precise, we could say there's many genres in LBP. (like "run and gun" games for instance) .

2009-09-28 00:11:00 Author: RangerZero Posts: 3901

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I fully expect MNR to hit 1 million user made tracks much much sooner than LBP hit 1 million levels. But that's simply because it looks so much easier to make a track. Those guys at E3 made one in minutes. The average levels in LBP per user is probably around 2-3, but I think in MNR it'll be more around 10-15. I can't see people taking months to make a track like they would to make a level in LBP. And if it doesn't take very long (maybe several hours at the very most), then there'll be millions, but not millions of rubbish H4H tracks. There'll be millions of good tracks because its so easy to make them. And if there's millions of good tracks, people will have played everything it has to offer within the first few weeks. It's not like anyone's going to be able to make a calculator, is it? A track is just a track. I'm excited for MNR, but LBP is still going to be far superior. Oh, and I don't know about anyone else, but I find 'MNR' more annoying to say than 'LBP'. It doesn't quite roll off the tongue.

2009-09-28 00:21:00 Author: Nuclearfish Posts: 927

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like "run and gun" games for instance . I'd just like to state that the "run and gun" levels in LBP right now, are not true "run and gun" it's more of a duck and shoot. Anyway back on topic. Like Ranger Zero said, we can't judge a game we haven't played. But we can make assumptions I just had an idea.... RACER BATTLE ARENA!!!!!!!!!!!!! A gigantic round track with weapon power ups scattered around, and people grab the power ups and fight. But then again, you can't determine who's the winner because there isn't a point system (as far as I know of). MNR would not kill LBP, neither would LBP kill MNR. Only a game which has the combination of LBP AND MNR would kill the two. I mean, imagine if you can have sackboy get off your little kart start platforming in one level, and then hop back into your kart and start racing in another! Then again... that's just an excuse to make my Race Battle Arena level work. Playing king of the hill and if someone is able to stay ontop of a hill for 5 minutes without dying then a scoreboard comes down and finish! yay! I also think that MNR might be more successful in the mulitplayer side. LBP is just horrific to play multiplayer on. The screen, the lag, and the point system. Don't get me wrong, i play with other people all the time, and I find it pretty fun, but it's more of a chat at a cafe more than competitive fighting. In LBP it's more of a "hey wanna play this level? It's better to play with a friend than playing alone " But in MRN it would be "Hey! Wanna Race? I'll make you eat my dust!!!!!"

2009-09-28 00:21:00 Author: snowyjoe Posts: 509

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i can see some advantages with MNR. like well obviously it's 3D. and second you can create structures for you to race on. am i correct? so there still is some of that building power you have in LBP. although not nearly as "in-deph". the main thing that will kick LBP in the butt will be scenery. you can make mountains and lakes and stuff. as much as i'd love to try out MNR for myself, i still see it as Sackboy's nemesis

2009-09-28 13:05:00 Author: Mopthefloo Posts: 139

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We can make kart race levels in LBP too......... well, sort of.......

2009-09-28 13:16:00 Author: dajdaj03 Posts: 1486

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We can make kart race levels in LBP too......... well, sort of....... Yeah but you can't shoot people with rocket launchers and play with 8 other people at once

2009-09-29 02:34:00 Author: snowyjoe Posts: 509

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no i doubt it i prefer platform games

2009-09-29 07:36:00 Author: rseah Posts: 2701

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I don't think LBP will ever become a thing of the past. I'm sure the PS3 will have a very long lifespan, though I'm not sure if it'll be as long as the PS2, but I feel LBP will definitely roll out onto whatever comes next as well.

2009-09-29 15:35:00 Author: Foofles Posts: 2278

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Maybe MRN will take over...... LBP race levels. Races in LBP are extremely limited because the players must be on the same screen at the same time.... without dual scrolling window support in LBP I just don't find races compelling at all. But I'm really looking forward to MNR because I love race games - but take over the LBP audience? No way. Totally different genres.

2009-09-29 19:02:00 Author: CCubbage Posts: 4430

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It looks nowhere near as deep as LBP from the videos I've seen. I'd love to get into the Beta to see what its all about. I don't think I'll be a serious creator on it, I've got to much stuff to do in LBP

2009-09-30 09:54:00 Author: GruntosUK Posts: 1754

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I fully expect MNR to have a very small hardcore audience after its initial year and it will be a very active community. I will be shocked if it comes anywhere near LBP. I'm not necessarily talking units sold here, but dedicated user base vs. hrs of investment vs. hrs of entertainment. Now, all of this will change if on the third lap of my designed track; I can cause an earthquake on the last straight-a-way initiated by a giant redwood which unexpectedly pops-up through the tarmac, pierces a curly cloud, which creates a down-pour, which triggers a mudslide. True creativity is now the difference between these two games. I cant be really sure what MNR is offering but as of now I am not buying. Oh, and I am aware of Vampires... but don't really know any... Dont know any Moders either!

2009-09-30 17:27:00 Author: Gravel Posts: 1308

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I can't see people NOT racing in MNR. Well I've heard that you will be able to make other things like battle arenas and stuff where you don't have to race at all. I'll look for the MNRC thread now. EDIT: Thread: http://www.mnrcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=402 Source: http://www.ps3center.net/article/285/1/ps3center-modnation-racers-interview/

2009-09-30 21:44:00 Author: S-A-S--G-U-N-R Posts: 1606

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