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Light but undestroyable material?

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I was wondering if there was any way to create a material that has the same properties as cardboard or sponge (doesn't have to be grabable) but cannot be destroyed by explosives.2009-09-23 03:20:00

Author:
snowyjoe
Posts: 509


According to https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=t=8914 wood is probably what you want. You could make it hollow or embed some peachy floaty to reduce the weight.2009-09-23 10:29:00

Author:
Rogar
Posts: 2284


Tinfoil - It has the same weight as cardboard, but is indestructible.2009-09-23 10:55:00

Author:
BSprague
Posts: 2325


Tinfoil - It has the same weight as cardboard, but is indestructible.

I heard that it's exactly like metal, weight and all...

Anyway, does anyone know if the glitched sponge-glass is destructable? I'd test it, but I can't play PS3 yet...
2009-09-23 20:57:00

Author:
KlawwTheClown
Posts: 1106


EDIT: I was wrong, no sense in spreading false information. 2009-09-23 21:45:00

Author:
BSprague
Posts: 2325


tin foil?? i never knew it existed2009-09-23 22:04:00

Author:
Dhawken
Posts: 96


tin foil isn't a type, its another skin for cardboard.

(its exactly like cardboard, light, no grab, explodey)

but, i would have to say wood. if you go with the floaty core, keep in mind that explosions pass through blast-proof walls. it hurts the inside, leavening the outside intact
2009-09-23 22:13:00

Author:
mattbru77
Posts: 143


I believe tinfoil is slightly different from the rest of cardboard in terms of weight, but I can't confirm that off-hand.

Do you need the object to move? General CCubbage informs me that attaching a piece of dark matter to any material makes it indestructible. Again, I can't confirm off-hand.
2009-09-23 22:18:00

Author:
comphermc
Posts: 5338


If you attach dark matter to a destructible material it can still be destroyed.

And I coulda sworn tin foil is exactly like metal - in fact, the other day I made a scale, weighed it with an equal block of metal, and they weighed the same...
2009-09-24 00:30:00

Author:
goldenclaw13
Posts: 224


Tinfoil - It has the same weight as cardboard, but is indestructible.... it's under cardboard for a reason.


And I coulda sworn tin foil is exactly like metal - in fact, the other day I made a scale, weighed it with an equal block of metal, and they weighed the same...

Well..... it seems goldenclaw is right, it's not under cardboard for a reason, it has the same weight and indestructableness of metal / stone.


If you attach dark matter to a destructible material it can still be destroyed. This also is true.
2009-09-24 01:52:00

Author:
rtm223
Posts: 6497


Well..... it seems goldenclaw is right, it's not under cardboard for a reason, it has the same weight and indestructableness of metal / stone.

This also is true.

Really? In that case, I'm terribly sorry for being so self-righteous about it. I seem to remember being surprised when tinfoil didn't destroy, but still bounced around when hit with explosions. I must have been thinking of something else, or the physics system is playing tricks on me. I was probably also connoting tinfoil with being light.

Sorry about that though, I mean no harm.
2009-09-24 01:54:00

Author:
BSprague
Posts: 2325


You could use a spotlight or something, they're grab able.2009-09-24 02:40:00

Author:
warlord_evil
Posts: 4193


hmm, tin foil might be under metal? i cant remember right now.

there is something like tin foil in metal, and there is something like it in cardboard >.<

ill get the chance to check later i suppose
2009-09-24 03:58:00

Author:
mattbru77
Posts: 143


So the tinfoil debate is finally over!

Thanks for the suggestion guys, I'll try the wood floaty idea and wish for the best.
2009-09-24 04:07:00

Author:
snowyjoe
Posts: 509


Another idea is coming to mind though - I'd say it probably won't work, but hear me out.

Using the material-merging glitch, it's been pointed out that the "alloy" created has the total density of the sum of its parts, and that someone used this technique to create a super-dense metallic "alloy".

Now, if you used this glitch to combine, say, rubber and peach floaty, you should get an "alloy" that is lighter than rubber, no? For now, let's call it "Flubber". Now, the question is this - what would happen when this Flubber was subjected to an explosion?

Would the alloy be unharmed? Would the "floaty" element be destroyed despite being integrated with the rubber? Would the materials dis-integrate? (And I don't mean disintigrate - I mean dis-intigrate; and yes, I know that's what disintigrate means, but I mean will the two 'objects' stop sharing the same space - fly apart).

I'd try cooking up some flubber just to experiment with.
2009-09-25 03:17:00

Author:
Jagrevi
Posts: 1154


Sounds like a plan to collapse the universe jagrevi - I just hope the feds get to you with that straight jacket in time 2009-09-25 10:20:00

Author:
rtm223
Posts: 6497


Another idea is coming to mind though - I'd say it probably won't work, but hear me out.

Using the material-merging glitch, it's been pointed out that the "alloy" created has the total density of the sum of its parts, and that someone used this technique to create a super-dense metallic "alloy".

Now, if you used this glitch to combine, say, rubber and peach floaty, you should get an "alloy" that is lighter than rubber, no? For now, let's call it "Flubber". Now, the question is this - what would happen when this Flubber was subjected to an explosion?

Would the alloy be unharmed? Would the "floaty" element be destroyed despite being integrated with the rubber? Would the materials dis-integrate? (And I don't mean disintigrate - I mean dis-intigrate; and yes, I know that's what disintigrate means, but I mean will the two 'objects' stop sharing the same space - fly apart).

I'd try cooking up some flubber just to experiment with.

I think I'm the one you are talking about who made the "super-dense metal", unless someone else has a block that weighs 28x what it should. And to answer your question, they would most likely just split into two separate objects upon an explosion.
2009-09-25 11:11:00

Author:
BSprague
Posts: 2325


Another idea is coming to mind though - I'd say it probably won't work, but hear me out.

Using the material-merging glitch, it's been pointed out that the "alloy" created has the total density of the sum of its parts, and that someone used this technique to create a super-dense metallic "alloy".

Now, if you used this glitch to combine, say, rubber and peach floaty, you should get an "alloy" that is lighter than rubber, no? For now, let's call it "Flubber". Now, the question is this - what would happen when this Flubber was subjected to an explosion?

Would the alloy be unharmed? Would the "floaty" element be destroyed despite being integrated with the rubber? Would the materials dis-integrate? (And I don't mean disintigrate - I mean dis-intigrate; and yes, I know that's what disintigrate means, but I mean will the two 'objects' stop sharing the same space - fly apart).

I'd try cooking up some flubber just to experiment with.

Well as of now, if you made a thin but long line of metal, put some destructible materials underneath it, and drop a bomb on the metal part, the material will still destroy, even though there is an indestructible material in the way.

So as long as a destructible material is in the radius of an explosion, it will be partially/fully destroyed.

Mixing rubber and peach floaty is the same as having a box of peach floaty inside a hollow box of rubber - it can still be destroyed.

Right?
2009-09-25 22:02:00

Author:
goldenclaw13
Posts: 224


EDIT: got beaten to the post >.< IF the peach floaty is SO far inside the metal, that it cant be reached by the blast radius, then it will live.

it will be destroyed. as long as the floaty part is within range of the blast radius, the explosions will pass tru the metal.

just leaving a burnt looking hunk of metal.
2009-09-25 23:56:00

Author:
mattbru77
Posts: 143


Well..... it seems goldenclaw is right, it's not under cardboard for a reason, it has the same weight and indestructableness of metal / stone.


He is right, it's obviously metal, has the same weight as metal, tinfoil in real life it's mainly made of metal (or stuff), and the description reads: 'Heavy material from the Wilderness theme.' It's just a mistake that Mm made.
2009-09-26 21:57:00

Author:
fatman689
Posts: 54


Actually they probably won't separate because I have created a bomb which is many, many tops of missiles in one box (combined, not actually in the box). When they explode the box moves around but nothing separates.2009-09-27 04:27:00

Author:
Sunrise_Moon
Posts: 469


I believe tinfoil is slightly different from the rest of cardboard in terms of weight, but I can't confirm that off-hand.

Do you need the object to move? General CCubbage informs me that attaching a piece of dark matter to any material makes it indestructible. Again, I can't confirm off-hand.
Actually, what I said was it couldn't be crushed. You can blow it up, but if you take, for instance, a block of concrete and try to crush something that is glued to dark matter it won't work. I found this while working on Vertigo - in the first room if anything was glued to dark matter it would suddenly refuse to crush.

This is based on what I personally ran into - I haven't done a ton of testing on it, so don't take my word for it.
2009-09-27 05:08:00

Author:
CCubbage
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