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http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/9579/b2bm.jpg After the huge success that was round 1. Round 2 starts today and it is bigger and better than ever before. Well, okay that's easy giving that round one had zero participating levels. :-) The mission: Create a level! Rules: 1. Every switch must be visible. Whether it's a standard switch, a custom made switch or a logic gate, you are not allowed to hide it. They need to be in plain sight. 2. Everything else must be visible as well. No hidden emitters, no invisible pistons, no invisible robes and of course no invisible materials. Exception: Magic mouths and speakers. 3. You may not use any DLC objects, that includes stickers, materials, the paint switch and plasma balls. The only exception are the things found in the Creator Pack 1 ie. the unlimited life checkpoint. The criteria of judgement: - Playability - Fun And of course the design and how well you have managed to incorporate the switches. The more integrated they are the better. A AND/OR switch that is part of the environment is better than the same switch that floats in mid air. So be creative, think about logical ways of implementing the logic into your design. Note: Ugly levels are acceptable of course and may have a chance to win but the judges may be slightly biased towards good looking levels whether they admit it or not. The aim: To help people understand how switches and logic mechanisms work and how they effect a level. Deadline: New moon of October. That is the 18th of October. The Prize: 1. 500xp 2. 250xp 3. 100xp Have fun! And be creative, imaginative, resourceful, inventive, ingenious, original! Entries so far: PSN - Level name manny_wtk - LBPC Back to Basics 2 Entry TonyTwoGunz - Logical Behaviour robotiod - B2B2 Terrible Times 1 lozynmymnd - Star of Pain ghostrider135 - Toxic trouble back to basics entry Judges: rtm223 comphermc Vidi--Vici v0rtex

2009-09-07 16:52:00 Author: Syroc Posts: 3193

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And it makes a triumphant return! Sorry I couldn't make the first one; I was surprisingly very busy the first few weeks of school.

2009-09-07 17:02:00 Author: Night Angel Posts: 1214

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Wait... Only 11 days? Can we not get a bit more time than this?

2009-09-07 17:08:00 Author: v0rtex Posts: 1878

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Oh, I meant October.

2009-09-07 17:11:00 Author: Syroc Posts: 3193

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Whew!! Thanks

2009-09-07 17:12:00 Author: v0rtex Posts: 1878

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Yeah, sorry about that I was somehow still in August.

2009-09-07 17:39:00 Author: Syroc Posts: 3193

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I'll be a judge, if it pleases the congregation. I'll also be happy to start harrassing contestants around the closing date if they have nothing to show for themselves!

2009-09-07 18:32:00 Author: rtm223 Posts: 6497

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Good, I hereby name thee first judge of la comp?tition.

2009-09-07 18:36:00 Author: Syroc Posts: 3193

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I'll make a new entry, just so we are all starting fresh.

2009-09-08 02:09:00 Author: BSprague Posts: 2325

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I would also like to judge, as I don't think I'll be able to make a level in time. We may have one inadvertant entry already. Assuming he decides to stop by, Hallm3 made a concise little level with completely visible logic. There's a thread in the showcase. If he enters, then you shouldn't feel bad about having started your level, BSprague. ----- Can I make one suggestion? Invisible speakers and magic mouths. We are at a disadvantage to MM in that their magic mouths can be very long. It looks tacky to have multiple mouths right next to each other. Also, there's really no advantage to being able to see the speakers. Music changes are fine, but the speakers would feel weird in my opinion.

2009-09-08 02:25:00 Author: comphermc Posts: 5338

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if u need another judge, ill judge...

2009-09-08 03:08:00 Author: ViDi--ViCi Posts: 123

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Good point, comphermc. I'll add that to the first post cause as you said it is pretty obvious that a speaker or magic mouth is active. You two will be the the last two judges.

2009-09-08 11:57:00 Author: Syroc Posts: 3193

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On the subject of magic mouths and speakers, especially the latter: I would like to see people try to incorporate them into the aesthetics in some fashon. Obviously you can hide them as per the rules, but the more that's visible (and incorporated in a clever way) the better This is, after all, the essense of the competition. Also, who else wants to enter this fabulous competition? C'mon!

2009-09-14 13:08:00 Author: rtm223 Posts: 6497

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I think i'll have a bit of this challenge, its a great idea! Best get my thinking head on

2009-09-14 13:47:00 Author: TonyTwoGunz Posts: 139

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I'll have a go at this, this time i'll put more effort. *puts on serious pants*

2009-09-14 18:45:00 Author: manny_wtk Posts: 127

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I'm done, got it published. I know theres still a lot of time left, but I've drawn blank as to what to add. Hope you guys like it.

2009-09-15 21:39:00 Author: manny_wtk Posts: 127

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Excellent. What's the name of the level?

2009-09-15 21:52:00 Author: Syroc Posts: 3193

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LBPC Back to Basics 2 Entry

2009-09-15 22:08:00 Author: manny_wtk Posts: 127

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Good choice. Added you to the first post.

2009-09-15 22:13:00 Author: Syroc Posts: 3193

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Ill enter this contest im already in comphermc's so this will be my second ever community contest. I have a day off Thursday from skoo, so ill see what I can do.

2009-09-15 22:22:00 Author: King_Tubb Posts: 435

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My entry should be done in the next few days or so. Its called Logical Behaviour if you want to add it to the first post. Published it now, its at the bottom of my planet.

2009-09-16 23:21:00 Author: TonyTwoGunz Posts: 139

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Come on now, who's entering this time round? There are about three weeks left. Post your names below if you are considering / halfway through making an entry, so I can get pestering you throughout october

2009-09-24 01:54:00 Author: rtm223 Posts: 6497

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Yeah - I'm in... have a pretty good start. I have one question on the rules. I understand everything must be visible, but does that include things that might naturally be hidden? Take, for instance, the meerkats in the Story levels. We never actually see their pistons, though we all know they are popping up out of the ground on them. Just curious...

2009-09-24 05:06:00 Author: v0rtex Posts: 1878

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Oh, I honestly hadn't considered that. What I would say is that the mechanisms for doors and the like should be visible, but for something non-substantial like bouncing meerkats it's not necessary that you see the piston, as long as you see the switch(es) that activate them. It's not really about us, (those that create all the time) but rather about those that would like to create but have trouble understanding the basics. (Thanks rtm for bumping this thread every now and then.)

2009-09-24 15:56:00 Author: Syroc Posts: 3193

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only 2 entries so far? c'mon ppl, are you just gunna let us have those points or give us a run for our money...er, points.

2009-09-24 21:24:00 Author: manny_wtk Posts: 127

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@syroc: am I really that obvious? Well v0rtex, BSprague and King_Tubb have said they are working on something, so that's 5 Should probably go and play the current entries at some point. Remember that you can carry on editing until the deadline

2009-09-25 10:08:00 Author: rtm223 Posts: 6497

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@syroc: am I really that obvious? No, but my spidersenses are super accurate. *cough* 20 days to go. In other news I might be able to judge myself, depending on the shops actually stocking the Uncharted bundle in time.

2009-09-28 12:58:00 Author: Syroc Posts: 3193

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I might participate...

2009-09-28 13:24:00 Author: Fredrik94 Posts: 342

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Ok i think i will make a level for this i really wanted to enter last time but i didn't have the free time.

2009-10-01 14:37:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662

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Ok here is the start of my level i thought i would show it off http://i587.photobucket.com/albums/ss314/robotiod/APhoto_3.jpg http://i587.photobucket.com/albums/ss314/robotiod/APhoto_4.jpg http://i587.photobucket.com/albums/ss314/robotiod/APhoto_5.jpg

2009-10-03 13:58:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662

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Thank you for entering.

2009-10-03 14:11:00 Author: Syroc Posts: 3193

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Thank you for entering. Its not finished yet but i should be able to get it out in time. Well i will get it out in time i'm good at keeping a deadline.

2009-10-03 14:23:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662

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The levels don't have to be complete to win.

2009-10-03 14:28:00 Author: Syroc Posts: 3193

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It will help if it doesn't just end at a cliff and some dark matter and then running along the level floor though

2009-10-03 14:39:00 Author: rtm223 Posts: 6497

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Of course.

2009-10-03 14:40:00 Author: Syroc Posts: 3193

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I will probably have it up by next saturday if its not ready i'll just make and ending but i'm making a boss battle and everything so that people can see my logic.

2009-10-03 14:54:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662

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I have a question about the rules. It says no invisible materials. I've realized that I am using very small (hence invisible) dark matter in several places. It's just become such habit. Will this be allowed? Do I need to go in a change all of these? Guess I should have read the rules more closely before I started. lol

2009-10-05 08:48:00 Author: v0rtex Posts: 1878

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I have a question about the rules. It says no invisible materials. I've realized that I am using very small (hence invisible) dark matter in several places. It's just become such habit. Will this be allowed? Do I need to go in a change all of these? Guess I should have read the rules more closely before I started. lol No I think yourt just not aloud invisble walls but using invisimatter to hold the level up is aloud.

2009-10-05 09:10:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662

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What rob said. Invisible dark matter to hold thinks up is allowed. Invisible floors and walls however are not.

2009-10-05 12:15:00 Author: Syroc Posts: 3193

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Cool. Thank you both.

2009-10-05 13:08:00 Author: v0rtex Posts: 1878

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I'll have my entry up soon. EDIT: It's up! lozynmymnd-Star of Pain

2009-10-06 02:36:00 Author: Drakora Posts: 392

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Thank you!

2009-10-06 08:03:00 Author: Syroc Posts: 3193

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So we currently have 3 finished entries, 2 confirmed entries and a couple of maybes. This is much better than last time

2009-10-06 08:42:00 Author: rtm223 Posts: 6497

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LOL i have done a crazy ammount of level building in the last 4 days i'mgoing crazy. LOL I have almost filled my thermometer half way because i have also did some serious thermo saving. I must say the other entries are going to struggle against my detail but they might be better at gameplay. Its going to be a good competition though.

2009-10-06 09:11:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662

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This is much better than last time A 100% increase, to be precise.

2009-10-06 09:16:00 Author: Syroc Posts: 3193

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A 100% increase, to be precise. Well in all fairness it wasn't that hard to beet lol

2009-10-06 09:26:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662

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Well a 100% increase would still be 0, so we're doing better than that

2009-10-06 10:01:00 Author: rtm223 Posts: 6497

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Pff, pedant.

2009-10-06 10:18:00 Author: Syroc Posts: 3193

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You call it pedantry, I call it being right Tomato / tomato....

2009-10-06 11:01:00 Author: rtm223 Posts: 6497

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Well I lost all of my data and backups in a power outage a couple days ago, so my entry is gone.

2009-10-06 11:03:00 Author: BSprague Posts: 2325

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Aw, that's a shame. Have you not published a locked copy?

2009-10-06 11:18:00 Author: Syroc Posts: 3193

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hey just a quiery can we enter more than 1 level coz i may edit one of my other levels aswell as the 1 im considering and the comp is still open i take it yes

2009-10-06 13:33:00 Author: ghostrider135 Posts: 259

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I'd prefer it if you chose your best work. Sorry. But you still have 12 days, that should be plenty of time to edit another level and see which one you like best.

2009-10-06 14:21:00 Author: Syroc Posts: 3193

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thanks for that i shall get on with it later i take it i just post the name of the level in this thread also yes

2009-10-06 15:39:00 Author: ghostrider135 Posts: 259

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Yup, and the PSN ID the level is published under in case it differs from the one in your profile.

2009-10-06 16:55:00 Author: Syroc Posts: 3193

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I'd prefer it if you chose your best work. Sorry. But you still have 12 days, that should be plenty of time to edit another level and see which one you like best. There's still 12 days? I thought it was over on the 8th.

2009-10-06 17:50:00 Author: Drakora Posts: 392

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my entry is now published , it looks abit rough now though coz i had originally hidden alot of the mechanics of the level, though i hope the minor improvisations help me win lol, the level is Toxic trouble back to basics entry and the psn is ghostrider135 to see the original un edited version its Toxic trouble beta under the same psn

2009-10-06 18:29:00 Author: ghostrider135 Posts: 259

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@Drakon: Why the sad face? You have 10 more days to make everything smooth and fun. @ghostrider: I'll add it to the first post. Thanks for entering. @everyone: If you already published your level, feel free to tweak things until the 18th of October.

2009-10-06 20:25:00 Author: Syroc Posts: 3193

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@Drakon: Why the sad face? You have 10 more days to make everything smooth and fun. I was sad because if I knew the deadline was the 18th, I'd haven't have rushed.

2009-10-06 22:15:00 Author: Drakora Posts: 392

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I was sad because if I knew the deadline was the 18th, I'd haven't have rushed. keep on tweaking. Rebuild stuff, take your time. If you feel you've rushed then there is room of improvement. Obviously there is no pressure to change it if you don't want to, but if you would have spent more time on it and feel you could have done better, then here's your chance. Plus if you say your sad because of this competition, then you're gonna make syroc cry, and he's a really nice guy y'know. You don't wana make syroc cry do you? Seriously though, I'm probably gonna play through the current entries in the next couple of days, but I'll withold any kind of judgement till after the deadline, so do feel free to improve and tinker

2009-10-06 22:33:00 Author: rtm223 Posts: 6497

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ARRRRRGH I really want the level out by saturday but i think it might draw into next saturday till i get it out. I'm happy with it so far but *Sigh* i'm spending too much time on the screan i'm going to go blind. Great about ghostriders entry i like that level well "BETA" i would really like to see it in B2B but i think he should do the gardens i fell its a better level really and he wouldn't have to change much. I'm really looking forward to the finish of this competition but i may not enter the next one lol. RL getting in the way Its so good that this competition has taken off because it is a great idea for a competition.

2009-10-07 14:50:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662

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Sorry for the double post but i have published my level and in LBP fashion it broke right before publishing lol. Its called B2B2 Terrible Times 1

2009-10-10 14:21:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662

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I may end up having to bow out of this. I have only a beginning completed, and real life (i.e. my job and a couple of 50+ hour weeks, and my kids extracurricular activities) has really put a damper on my creative productivity. Hopefully there' s a Round 3 and I can just hold on to what I have until then.

2009-10-10 15:39:00 Author: v0rtex Posts: 1878

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One week to go everyone.

2009-10-11 09:58:00 Author: Syroc Posts: 3193

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I can't wait for the results of this competition there are some good levels.

2009-10-13 09:22:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662

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Only four days before let loose the hounds... I mean judges to judge your work. Remember, your levels will only be judged if they are listed in the first post, so if I forgot one please remind me.

2009-10-15 11:13:00 Author: Syroc Posts: 3193

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Should we maybe find out if vidi-vici is going to be available for judging, he's not very active on the forums and I don't know if he's actually planning on coming back. Do you wanna send him a PM to find out syroc?

2009-10-15 12:06:00 Author: rtm223 Posts: 6497

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Ah, good point. I'll send him a message.

2009-10-15 12:23:00 Author: Syroc Posts: 3193

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Since I was/am unable to complete my level, I would be willing to judge, if you're short.

2009-10-15 13:12:00 Author: v0rtex Posts: 1878

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4 days left wow, Since publishing my entry i have been on a creative block i'm really unhappy about it.

2009-10-15 14:31:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662

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Since I was/am unable to complete my level, I would be willing to judge, if you're short. That'll be good. Thanks.

2009-10-15 16:34:00 Author: Syroc Posts: 3193

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Right, last day. I'm going to send all the judges a PM later today and explain in more detail how to rate the levels etc.

2009-10-18 10:25:00 Author: Syroc Posts: 3193

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OOOh i can't wait for the results

2009-10-19 09:23:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662

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Me neither. Quick status update: One of the three judges has send me his opinion. I'm just waiting for the other two to pass along their opinion.

2009-10-19 22:22:00 Author: Syroc Posts: 3193

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I've actually played all of them. But I haven't decided yet Expect my response in a few hours Edit - this never happened. Sorry, I got distracted Tonight I will submit my verdict.

2009-10-19 22:27:00 Author: rtm223 Posts: 6497

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Right, I have all the results, but just need to clarify one thing before posting them. So, uhm, I post them tomorrow if I'm not completely drowned in work. If I am I will probably postpone it to the weekend to have a look at the levels myself. Sorry for taking so long.

2009-10-21 22:05:00 Author: Syroc Posts: 3193

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So you have a PS3 again now?

2009-10-22 09:36:00 Author: rtm223 Posts: 6497

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Not yet, but tomorrow or Saturday. Whenever I can find the time to run into town really.

2009-10-22 11:33:00 Author: Syroc Posts: 3193

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Right, since I may not get a PS3 afterall to have a look myself The results are in! 5th lozynmymnd - Star of Pain 4th manny_wtk - LBPC Back to Basics 2 Entry3rd ghostrider135 - Toxic trouble back to basics entry2nd robotiod - B2B2 Terrible Times 1 You can probably guess it nowTonyTwoGunz - Logical Behaviour Congratulations! o/ PS: The judges get a little something, too.

2009-10-23 16:26:00 Author: Syroc Posts: 3193

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Well congradulations to everyone who entered can't wait to see you all in the next round.

2009-10-24 08:56:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662

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Congrats to all the winners! They were all a lot of fun to play!

2009-10-24 15:43:00 Author: v0rtex Posts: 1878

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Would somebody be able to post the results in a reply please. I have to use my PS3 for the internet for now and it wont let me open the results part on Syrocs post. Thanks

2009-10-26 17:16:00 Author: TonyTwoGunz Posts: 139

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5th lozynmymnd - Star of Pain 4th manny_wtk - LBPC Back to Basics 2 Entry 3rd ghostrider135 - Toxic trouble back to basics entry 2nd robotiod - B2B2 Terrible Times 1 1st TonyTwoGunz - Logical Behaviour

2009-10-26 17:28:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662

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Will it be a round 3?

2009-10-26 17:52:00 Author: Mnniska Posts: 531

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I believe if there is interest from creators then there will certainly be a round three. Do you want in?

2009-10-26 17:54:00 Author: rtm223 Posts: 6497

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Maybe. I'm not sure yet. The problem with a competition like this is that making levels takes time and many creators are always building on their own projects. As rtm just said while I was typing if there is enough interest there may be another round.

2009-10-26 17:55:00 Author: Syroc Posts: 3193

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Nice, i won! Congrats to everyone else who entered, and thanks to the judges and Syroc for hosting the comp. Id consider entering round 3 if it came around, i'll keep my eyes open. Thanks again.

2009-10-26 19:35:00 Author: TonyTwoGunz Posts: 139

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Hmm, I hope there will be a Round 3.

2009-10-26 23:22:00 Author: Drakora Posts: 392

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I've still got my unfinished beginnings from this round, so I'd certainly welcome a Round 3 !!

2009-10-27 00:52:00 Author: v0rtex Posts: 1878

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I deffinately want a round three this competition is really fun.

2009-10-27 09:04:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662

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Round three pleeease!

2009-10-27 10:47:00 Author: CreateNPlay Posts: 1266

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I want a round 3! Finally all my projects seem to clear up so I will have room for new projects soon now

2009-10-31 22:17:00 Author: Mnniska Posts: 531

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next round pleeeasse!!! i want to enter

2009-11-02 22:04:00 Author: Kern Posts: 5078

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if there is enough interest there may be another round. Get on it then

2009-11-02 22:06:00 Author: rtm223 Posts: 6497

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Ok, ok. Any preferences for a theme?

2009-11-03 09:08:00 Author: Syroc Posts: 3193

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not particularly.

2009-11-03 09:15:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662

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im not bothered about a theme, but sci fi would be difficult to do without ~DLC~

2009-11-04 07:43:00 Author: Kern Posts: 5078

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What would you say to only allowing the eight basic materials? That was my original idea for this contest, but I thought people might be more willing to take part if they could use some fancy wood etc.

2009-11-04 10:14:00 Author: Syroc Posts: 3193

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basic materials sounds great i love using carboard anyways, i have made a few un published levels just out of the stuff

2009-11-04 10:38:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662

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Sounds like a great idea only using the 8 basic materials Syroc, im all for that! That way it'll show how creative people really can be

2009-11-04 14:43:00 Author: TonyTwoGunz Posts: 139

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What would be the rules about stickers/decorations??

2009-11-04 15:34:00 Author: dawesbr Posts: 3280

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Not sure. What do you all think? If we'd stick to the theme there would be no stickers of course.

2009-11-04 15:55:00 Author: Syroc Posts: 3193

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I'd be happy with just the 8 materials. Decorations could, of course, be made out of emitters etc. if necessary. However, I think the rule should be no levels like "Cardboard World!" or "Rubber Madness!"

2009-11-04 16:19:00 Author: dawesbr Posts: 3280

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Yeah, more than one material will definitely be a rule.

2009-11-04 16:28:00 Author: Syroc Posts: 3193

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what about 3 materials...

2009-11-04 18:06:00 Author: Kern Posts: 5078

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Fine, as long as they are effective. Not just dark matter and dissolve for switches and cardboard for everything else. Nothing against cardboard, or single material levels, but that's not very creative.

2009-11-04 18:35:00 Author: Syroc Posts: 3193

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Already done the 3 material level. Have you forgotten the Sackcast 'Gadders trial' that my 'PLASMAVILLE' level won. I'd like to see something with the newer DLC materials such as the ones from the Monster and History packs. I haven't really seen any of those used to good effect yet even though we've had them for ages now.

2009-11-04 18:42:00 Author: mistervista Posts: 2210

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Already done the 3 material level. Have you forgotten the Sackcast 'Gadders trial' that my 'PLASMAVILLE' level won. This is the first time I've heard of it (level and contest) to be honest. I'd like to see something with the newer DLC materials such as the ones from the Monster and History packs. I haven't really seen any of those used to good effect yet even though we've had them for ages now. That we can do in the next if there is one. But it won't be fair to limit it to DLC material because some people are bound to complain about that.

2009-11-04 18:53:00 Author: Syroc Posts: 3193

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It was a contest to make a level using only dark matter, basic cardboard and dissolve. That included everything offscreen too including all switches. Can't believe you never heard of it. Don't you listen to the podcasts?

2009-11-04 18:57:00 Author: mistervista Posts: 2210

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I do, but I don't really care about contests. And what I don't care about won't be remembered.

2009-11-04 19:03:00 Author: Syroc Posts: 3193

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to limit it to DLC material ... Would simply undermine the "back to basics"-ness of the entire contest.

2009-11-04 21:07:00 Author: rtm223 Posts: 6497

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Would simply undermine the "back to basics"-ness of the entire contest. But it won't be fair to limit it to DLC material ? Also, I don't like the sound of 3 materials. I say, basic 8.

2009-11-04 22:33:00 Author: dawesbr Posts: 3280

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Yes, of course all eight. I never said it would be limited to three.

2009-11-04 22:34:00 Author: Syroc Posts: 3193

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and extra points if you can make interesting switchs and stuff...

2009-11-04 22:39:00 Author: Kern Posts: 5078

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and extra points if you can make interesting switchs and stuff... I'm guessing you made some interesting switches... and stuff :eek:

2009-11-04 23:18:00 Author: iGotFancyPants Posts: 1355

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