Archive: 66 posts

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Hearing all the horror stories of deleted data (and considered my luck), I think I'll wait for a patch so data won't get deleted. Until then, I probably won't play online for a while. What are the odds of my data being deleted?

2009-09-03 02:17:00 Author: TheMarvelousHat Posts: 542

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I've been playing with it fine for a couple of days now. Backup your lbp data on a flash drive and try it out. What's the worst that could happen (apart from your ps3 fizzling and imploding)?

2009-09-03 02:19:00 Author: comphermc Posts: 5338

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Well, if I copied my data, would I not be able to earn trophies?

2009-09-03 02:21:00 Author: TheMarvelousHat Posts: 542

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I haven't turned on my PS3 for a week or so now, not because of any patches or anything, just because I don't have time. But now I don't want to turn it on.

2009-09-03 02:22:00 Author: Whalio Cappuccino Posts: 5250

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Well, if I copied my data, would I not be able to earn trophies? I believe that only happens if you copy it to a new save-file. I'm talking about a backup that you would replace a corrupted version with, in the event that something went wrong.

2009-09-03 02:24:00 Author: comphermc Posts: 5338

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I'm going to back mine up too, because I'm also terrified to update to the new firmware.

2009-09-03 02:28:00 Author: xkappax Posts: 2569

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I've also been running it since it was released without incident. Although visually I liked it the old way better.... it seems so much busier now.

2009-09-03 02:33:00 Author: CCubbage Posts: 4430

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I believe that only happens if you copy it to a new save-file. I'm talking about a backup that you would replace a corrupted version with, in the event that something went wrong. How do I do this?

2009-09-03 02:37:00 Author: TheMarvelousHat Posts: 542

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I've also been running it since it was released without incident. Although visually I liked it the old way better.... it seems so much busier now. The friends list thing looks awful! (Larry updated his ps3, but mine is still untouched.)

2009-09-03 02:38:00 Author: xkappax Posts: 2569

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Yea, the friends list is ugly. I also DL'd the update with no problems i saw. Not everyone has horror stories, people who DL it fine just don't typically make threads titled "OMG THE UPDATE WORKED!!!"

2009-09-03 02:46:00 Author: Burnvictim42 Posts: 3322

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Yes it's definitely too cluttered and harder to navigate. What's the point of updates that actually make things worse ??

2009-09-03 02:46:00 Author: mistervista Posts: 2210

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the only thing i dont like ( other than the new friends list. i hate it so much >:U ) is the psn store shortcut on the games section. im fine with it in the movie section, as its much easier to get to the movie store with that shortcut, instead of through the game store. but with it in the game section, its like having 2 links to the same place ( the original psn store shortcut, and the new one ). actually, thats exactly what it is.

2009-09-03 02:52:00 Author: gofurr360z Posts: 886

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Yup.... sometimes less is more.

2009-09-03 03:01:00 Author: CCubbage Posts: 4430

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Yup.... sometimes less is more. Just keep telling yourself that, Cubb . I kid. And apparently can't stay on task...

2009-09-03 03:09:00 Author: comphermc Posts: 5338

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The problems are inflated over the internet. If it was really problematic, they would pull the update and patch. They did it before. Right now, there's no way to safely link the recent loss of save files with the firmware update. The only problem that might be real is Uncharted crashing AND it's only on certain PS3 models. UPDATE your PS3. It's safe. Just be intelligent and publish your uninished stuff online but locked and back-up your save. I do back-up my saves AT EACH FIRMWARE OR LBP UPDATE. No kidding, it should become routine stuff in this day and age. .

2009-09-03 03:22:00 Author: RangerZero Posts: 3901

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UPDATE your PS3. It's safe. Just be intelligent and publish your uninished stuff online but locked and back-up your save. I do back-up my saves AT EACH FIRMWARE OR LBP UPDATE. No kidding, it should become routine stuff in this day and age. No, actually we shouldn't have to, the system should. Sometimes I really miss the old PS1 days, when I didn't have to worry about anything, I just put the disk and memory card in, and I could trust that it worked. It's why I got out of PC gaming. And what if I can't make a back up, because the system says it's corrupted?

2009-09-03 09:21:00 Author: Rogar Posts: 2284

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It's completely fine to update, well it was for me, then again my data was already corrupt and copied so I had nothing to lose. Play it safe and make a backup though.

2009-09-03 09:48:00 Author: RobbieT_4 Posts: 77

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And what if I can't make a back up, because the system says it's corrupted? Do you mean corrupted by the update? Well that's why you do a backup before you update If it was already corrupted then where's you backup from 2 days ago? Seriously though, most of these horror stories have been "I lost my data I was working on last night" - that's always been an LBP issue. More extreme cases where systems have died are pretty rare as far as I can tell. It's just that those of us who have been unaffected are too busy playing games to be commenting. Back up and then try it. Or if you are still scared, just take your PS3 off the internet - plenty of games have decent offline modes - and wait for an announcement from Sony.

2009-09-03 10:11:00 Author: rtm223 Posts: 6497

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the newest firmware update actually fixed my save file. it used to tell me it's corrupt, but starts first time now.

2009-09-03 10:39:00 Author: Matt 82 Posts: 1096

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I downloaded it and nothing happened to my save file.

2009-09-03 10:46:00 Author: Flame Dragon Posts: 312

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Do you mean corrupted by the update? Well that's why you do a backup before you update If it was already corrupted then where's you backup from 2 days ago? It was corrupted after installing Cornish Yarg. In fact, both our profiles were corrupted, but mine was somehow fixed after downloading the druid costume. I don't know if sending a copy of my corrupt profile to Mm was the solution, but if it was, I can't do the same with my girlfriend's profile because it gives an error when I try to copy it. So no backups for her either. Sure, if I backed up both profiles before Yarg... but that's in the past now.

2009-09-03 12:24:00 Author: Rogar Posts: 2284

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I downloaded it too, and it works perfectly, not any problem for me!

2009-09-03 12:40:00 Author: dajdaj03 Posts: 1486

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No, actually we shouldn't have to, the system should. That would be super awesome that a game would backup a second save file somewhere but it's always better to back up manually. If LBP cannot save properly, why would you trust it can back up properly? It's the same thing. LBP is a collection of bugs in the shape of a game. That happens. You have to live with it. It happens because nowadays software is infinitely more complex than pre-playstation stuff. We shouldn't have to do anything in a perfect world but it's utopia. You have to live with it. .

2009-09-03 12:46:00 Author: RangerZero Posts: 3901

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Hah hah hah. You're a funny guy.... I'll kill you last.

2009-09-03 13:21:00 Author: CCubbage Posts: 4430

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That would be super awesome that a game would backup a second save file somewhere but it's always better to back up manually. If LBP cannot save properly, why would you trust it can back up properly? It's the same thing. By system I meant the PS3. It could backup save data every time the game is started, so that if something in the game session messes it up, you can go back to where you started that session. It should probably allow you to go back to any one of the last 10 backups, too. But maybe it's just LBP, then it's probably overkill to have a generic system.

2009-09-03 14:09:00 Author: Rogar Posts: 2284

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So we've seen peoples' saves become corrupted and fixed with the PS3 FW update? Well then it's obvious the update is playing a role in LBP saves, and possibly saves for other games too. Since some of these corruption/data loss problems seem to be associated with the PS3 firmware, I'm assuming that Sony is working on some fixes with 3.0, but are not quite there yet. We should hear from them soon, especially if this problem with newly corrupt data gets any worse.

2009-09-03 15:24:00 Author: Unknown User

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2009-09-03 15:35:00 Author: Cykelpumpen Posts: 62

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By system I meant the PS3. It could backup save data every time the game is started, so that if something in the game session messes it up, you can go back to where you started that session. It should probably allow you to go back to any one of the last 10 backups, too. But maybe it's just LBP, then it's probably overkill to have a generic system. I'm not sure I follow where you're going. No games EVER is backing up their save files. They simply save and that's all. Even WINDOWS never ever backed up anything for you since the beginning of time. Why would you expect the PS3 to do it all of a sudden? Sure it would be nice but right now, even on your PC you need to back-up your stuff in the case your file, memory support or storage support fails. .

2009-09-03 20:34:00 Author: RangerZero Posts: 3901

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LBP backs up the save in the game data, but if you lose everything that doesn't help much... It's where the backups come from if your save gets corrupt. You know, the ones that seem to be from February or something?

2009-09-03 20:53:00 Author: ARD Posts: 4291

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the newest firmware update actually fixed my save file. it used to tell me it's corrupt, but starts first time now. Same with me And i haven't had any problems what so ever, this update is pretty nice IMO

2009-09-03 21:18:00 Author: JKthree Posts: 1125

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Well, I'm happy to report that I came home today and updated to the new firmware. I did back up my stuff, but there was no need, because everything worked just fine!

2009-09-03 21:29:00 Author: xkappax Posts: 2569

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One problem I've had is that I have had the 'problem loading data - pod must be reset thing a few times since the update...

2009-09-03 21:34:00 Author: ARD Posts: 4291

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i downloaded it and nothing is missing on my levels

2009-09-03 22:26:00 Author: Chuk_Chuk Posts: 108

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I'll download when I get back home, but just in case, how do I back up my data?

2009-09-04 02:26:00 Author: TheMarvelousHat Posts: 542

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I'll download when I get back home, but just in case, how do I back up my data? You need a portable storage device like a USB key or something. -Plug it in PS3 -In the XMB, enter the "game saved data" section (and not "game data") -Reach the LBP file. -Once selected, press triangle for the option tab. -Copy -They will ask you where to copy, you select your device. .

2009-09-04 04:11:00 Author: RangerZero Posts: 3901

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I'm not sure I follow where you're going. No games EVER is backing up their save files. They simply save and that's all. Even WINDOWS never ever backed up anything for you since the beginning of time. Why would you expect the PS3 to do it all of a sudden? Sure it would be nice but right now, even on your PC you need to back-up your stuff in the case your file, memory support or storage support fails. There's two important differences between a PS3 and a PC here: The PS3 presents itself as a simple, no hassles, gaming "black box". PC users are expected to be more technical, more responsible. Because of this, PC's provide a lot more tools to take care of your system. You can't access the PS3 file system, you can't script automatic backups, or install a backup tool. For a lot of games, saved data isn't even that important, but with LBP you have to complete the entire game again, including lots of hidden/two-player areas, in order to get back the materials to build levels. So if Mm can't guarantee that the saves will remain uncorrupted, they should back them up. LBP backs up the save in the game data, but if you lose everything that doesn't help much... It's where the backups come from if your save gets corrupt. You know, the ones that seem to be from February or something? Well, there you go! Now if only we got the option to fix our save data with this backup, everything would be okay.

2009-09-04 11:56:00 Author: Rogar Posts: 2284

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The PS3 doesn't present itself as a no hassles gaming device. It presents itself as a complex gaming device / media centre / internet browsing multipurpose system. A PC presents itself as a multipurpose system - in fact Windows tries to push itself as a no-hassle solution even more than the PS3 does. Think of the wizards and the automatic behind the scenes stuff that windows does. PCs are more mainstream than a PS3, used by more people who are non-tech-savvy, so the comparison is moot. PC users are not expected to tech savvy at all. The PS3 is very much a computer and doesn't try to disguise the fact IMO. It's just that people think "console" and think back to the NES days. Consoles have moved on, users need to move on as well. There is a backup utility provided for a reason. And unless you have an IT department managing your backup procedures, you should always manually back up. In fact, even if you do have an IT dept doing it for you you should still do it yourself - the point of backing up is because you cannot trust the system that holds the data. Why on earth would you trust a different system? That's just idiocy. If you want something doing right you do it yourself. .

2009-09-04 12:15:00 Author: rtm223 Posts: 6497

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The PS3 doesn't present itself as a no hassles gaming device. It presents itself as a complex gaming device [...] Oh, really? I must have missed that ad campaign. A PC presents itself as a multipurpose system - in fact Windows tries to push itself as a no-hassle solution even more than the PS3 does. Think of the wizards and the automatic behind the scenes stuff that windows does. PCs are more mainstream than a PS3, used by more people who are non-tech-savvy, so the comparison is moot. PC users are not expected to tech savvy at all. Keyword here is "push". The PC isn't easy. Windows isn't easy. Microsoft just tries hard to convince you it is, with the wizards and all that. There are no wizards on the PS3. You just put in the disk, select it, and off it goes. That doesn't sound like a computer to me, it sounds like a CD player or VCR. And unless you have an IT department managing your backup procedures, you should always manually back up. In fact, even if you do have an IT dept doing it for you you should still do it yourself - the point of backing up is because you cannot trust the system that holds the data. Why on earth would you trust a different system? That's just idiocy. If you want something doing right you do it yourself. Wow, you really don't trust software, do you? I guess you work with Microsoft products a lot? Doing something manually is silly. People make mistakes, computers only make the mistakes their programmers tell them to make. And you catch those with proper testing. There's loads of software that we trust to work every day. But to get back on topic, I expect I'll give the update a go this weekend. Hopefully it will miraculously fix my girlfriend's profile, like the druid one fixed mine.

2009-09-04 14:15:00 Author: Rogar Posts: 2284

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With my PC I just switch it on and it goes... Thank you for demonstrating my point regarding the PS3 simplicity - it is customer assumption that it is simple, not the marketing. And yeah they did push it as a multipurpose system. I write software for a living and I know fully what "proper" testing means - it means covering as many scenarios as you have time to cover, you don't get full coverage of the system. A lot of the software we trust to work every day gets regularly patched due to loopholes and failures and exploits, despite being "properly tested" Once you throw into that mix hardware failures, no I don't trust any electronic or computer system to be infallable. I love computer and electronic tools, I love gadgets and devices that make life esier for me, but I'm not naive enough to trust them 100% - anyone who does is a fool.

2009-09-04 14:41:00 Author: rtm223 Posts: 6497

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Gah! This time not only did I get the pod error, I got a whole string of them: 'There was a problem loading your data - cleaning your pod might fix this' 'Error: Returning to pod' 'Failed to load level' 'There was an error with the level you were playing - returned to pod' One after another...what the hell is going on? My pod was empty in the first place!

2009-09-04 14:44:00 Author: ARD Posts: 4291

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Look like we'll have to agree to disagree. I'm not continuing the debate because I would only repeat RTM posts... .

2009-09-04 15:34:00 Author: RangerZero Posts: 3901

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WARNING!!!!! YOU ARE NOT SAFE!!!!!! Even if you have downloaded Firmware 3.0 and nothing happened... you are still not out of the danger zone!!! I've just experienced some of the Firmware horror stories TODAY when i already downloaded Firmware 3.0 when it came out! LBP seizes to start sometimes, the PS3 crashes when i enter the pod, when i load a level LBP exits randomly and just takes me back the the PS3 home page thingy,half of mymoon levels are deleted and so forth! Always backup your saved data!!!!!!!

2009-09-05 00:24:00 Author: snowyjoe Posts: 509

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Doesn't matter if you have a trillion USB sticks or fifteen thousand harddrives. ALWAYS publish your latest version so that you can easily copy it back to your moon.

2009-09-05 01:00:00 Author: BasketSnake Posts: 2391

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I backed up all of my data and proceeded to download firmware 3.00. So far, everything is running smooth, and I have nothing to complain about.

2009-09-05 01:03:00 Author: BSprague Posts: 2325

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WARNING!!!!! YOU ARE NOT SAFE!!!!!! Even if you have downloaded Firmware 3.0 and nothing happened... you are still not out of the danger zone!!! I've just experienced some of the Firmware horror stories TODAY when i already downloaded Firmware 3.0 when it came out! LBP seizes to start sometimes, the PS3 crashes when i enter the pod, when i load a level LBP exits randomly and just takes me back the the PS3 home page thingy,half of mymoon levels are deleted and so forth! Always backup your saved data!!!!!!! That happens to me All the time Just lucky for me I had no saved stuff first time it happened and therefore took the oppurtunity to make a backup. I'm not complaing as I used to get three warning screens when I started the game, now I get one .

2009-09-05 08:54:00 Author: RobbieT_4 Posts: 77

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I've had no problems with it up to now, and I downloaded it on 1st September. I'm sure it'll be fine, as the problems are rare. Also, you will still be able to earn trophies if you back it up.

2009-09-05 11:24:00 Author: mongoose7 Posts: 473

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Thanks for all teh help. EDIT : Can I still earn trophies if I copy my data onto a USB?

2009-09-05 15:55:00 Author: TheMarvelousHat Posts: 542

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EDIT : Can I still earn trophies if I copy my data onto a USB? Yes. It's if you upload a save file that came from a different PS3 that you will lose your ability to earn trophies for the game in question. .

2009-09-05 19:18:00 Author: RangerZero Posts: 3901

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It says my trophies won't be backed up! How do I back them up?!

2009-09-07 00:02:00 Author: TheMarvelousHat Posts: 542

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It says my trophies won't be backed up! How do I back them up?! When do you get this message and you get it after wich manipulation? I don't understand the backing up of trophies because you can't lose them: They are tied your PSN account. .

2009-09-07 00:05:00 Author: RangerZero Posts: 3901

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They're linked to your PSN. Just make sure they're synchronized(go to check them and if they aren't synced they will do so at that time. Then they're basically backed up.

2009-09-07 00:06:00 Author: BassDeluxe Posts: 984

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I did this: System Settings > Backup Utility > Back Up Then it says 'Trophies will not be backed up by performing this operation. Continue?' Then it shows the profiles on my system. HELP! EDIT : I went to game trophies and selected 'Sync with server' and it says I need the system update. D:<

2009-09-07 00:09:00 Author: TheMarvelousHat Posts: 542

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You cannot lose Trophies. They are saved elsewhere, not on your PS3.

2009-09-07 00:18:00 Author: Matt 82 Posts: 1096

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Actually, I'm 99% sure you can lose trophies, iff you are offline when you earn them and then lose all your data without going online.

2009-09-07 00:19:00 Author: BassDeluxe Posts: 984

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I need the update that might erase my data to save my data. -.- Should I just do the update? Is there any other way to back up data?

2009-09-07 00:22:00 Author: TheMarvelousHat Posts: 542

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Actually, I'm 99% sure you can lose trophies, iff you are offline when you earn them and then lose all your data without going online. Yes I can confirm this. If you unlock trophies while offline, they will be synched to your account only the next time to log in online. If ever that next time is after you need to install a mandatory firmware update and you wanted to back them up, you can't. MARVELOUSHAT --- just back up your save files. You'll be ok. .

2009-09-07 00:23:00 Author: RangerZero Posts: 3901

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All right, but if I lose mah trophies, ASLKSHFLKAJSF. EDIT : I need more memory space to back it up. -.- How do I delete profiles off of my system?

2009-09-07 00:25:00 Author: TheMarvelousHat Posts: 542

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All right, but if I lose mah trophies, ASLKSHFLKAJSF. Do you have the habit of playing offline? .

2009-09-07 00:28:00 Author: RangerZero Posts: 3901

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Do you have the habit of playing offline? . No. My only problem now is that I need 9258 MB more memory to back it up. >:|

2009-09-07 00:36:00 Author: TheMarvelousHat Posts: 542

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There's really no reason to back up the entire PS3. Just do the save data. You'll be fine. Srsly.

2009-09-07 00:43:00 Author: BassDeluxe Posts: 984

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There's really no reason to back up the entire PS3. Just do the save data. You'll be fine. Srsly. That's what I'm trying to do. I did this: System Settings > Backup utility > Back Up > Ok > Yes It doesn't let me specify what I back up, there's just a back up button.

2009-09-07 00:46:00 Author: TheMarvelousHat Posts: 542

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To just do save data, go to the game section of the xmb, then Saved Data Utility. Then copy each game's data by pressing triangle > Copy and choosing where you want to copy it to. I only copied LBP when I updated but it's up to you.

2009-09-07 00:55:00 Author: BassDeluxe Posts: 984

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To just do save data, go to the game section of the xmb, then Saved Data Utility. Then copy each game's data by pressing triangle > Copy and choosing where you want to copy it to. I only copied LBP when I updated but it's up to you. ... But will it disable me being able to get trophies?

2009-09-07 01:01:00 Author: TheMarvelousHat Posts: 542

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... But will it disable me being able to get trophies? No because the save file originate from your PS3. It's when you upload a save file that was created on another machine that they lock your trophies (and only for the game in question). .

2009-09-07 01:14:00 Author: RangerZero Posts: 3901

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Alright, I'll copy mah data then.

2009-09-07 01:17:00 Author: TheMarvelousHat Posts: 542

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Seriously, I wouldn't worry. It's all gon b k.

2009-09-07 01:21:00 Author: alexbull_uk Posts: 1287

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