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Do you buy Blu-Ray discs?

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Just read this in my local rag's online offering:

PlayStation 3 price drop unlikely to boost Blu-ray (http://www.startribune.com/entertainment/tv/54597662.html?elr=KArksD:aDyaEP:kD:aUq9_b9b_jEkP:Q UiacyKUnciaec8O7EyUr)

and am just curious to see if any of you all buy many Blu-ray discs. I personally have never been a video media consumer (at least not a purchaser), be it VHS, DVD, or now Blu-ray (except when my kids were young and we bought every animated title that came out - made Christmas and Birthdays easy). I've seldom seen the movie that would make me want to view it enough times to warrant purchasing, when I know I can rent. And now that Netflix and Blockbuster Online offer Blu-ray content, why buy?

What do you think?		2009-08-25 00:24:00

Author:
v0rtex
Posts: 1878

Well, I don't buy any movies really, so not me.

My brother, however, just bought a used 80 gig today primarily as a Blu-ray player, and it looks like some people are...

But really, Bl-Rays still haven't defeated DVDS yet, despite "winning" against HD-DVD :/		2009-08-25 00:27:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882

Coming from a differnt angle: I like owning the media - I've got a bookshelf full of DVDs, there are so many that I could watch a film a day and it would take nearly about a year and a half to get through the collection and I really think that my collection is wanting! I no the stupidity of the sentiment but I just like it. ANd often I lok for a film in the evenings and something will jump out at me that I never would have thought of renting in advance.

Blu Ray on the other hand... When a film's been out for a couple of months the DVD drops to around a third of the blu-ray cost and most films don't justify the extra expenditure. A drama with little action or cgi or detail etc - focussing on the acting, doesn't need HD, so I'll buy the DVD. I did buy the Planet Earth Documentary boxed set on Blu Ray - that was well worth it 		2009-08-25 00:31:00

Author:
rtm223
Posts: 6497

My tv even manages to lower the quality of normal dvds so i don't think getting the blu-ray version would be worth it 2009-08-25 00:42:00

Author:
Dexiro
Posts: 2100

Sadly, I still have an old SD TV (I bet most kids never heard of those! )

So, Blu-rays are useless to me.		2009-08-25 00:45:00

Author:
crazymario
Posts: 657

I buy Blu-ray...I enjoy the better quality of it. Of course, for movies that don't really need to look awesome, I might pass on Blu-ray...but for the most part I will buy blu-ray for movies I like. And the cost is not really too bad, I usually find them cheap online on the Wal-Mart site and then just price match at best buy. Works for me...2009-08-25 00:50:00

Author:
Spider-Jew
Posts: 1090

I convinced my dad to buy the PS3 so we could watch Blu ray movie with the family, and so far it's turned out great! I don't have on Blu Ray in my collection that regret buying 2009-08-25 00:58:00

Author:
Astrosimi
Posts: 2046

I have Netflix, and it's a godsend. That is all. 2009-08-25 01:10:00

Author:
BSprague
Posts: 2325

I don't really purchase films, but when I do, I get the Blu-Ray version because I honestly think it's worth it.

Soon DVDs will be a thing of the past. You mark my words.		2009-08-25 01:39:00

Author:
alexbull_uk
Posts: 1287

I have Netflix, and it's a godsend. That is all.
^^^ThisThisThisThisThis^^^		2009-08-25 01:58:00

Author:
crazymario
Posts: 657

I rent movies at the redbox at mcdonalds or see them in theatres first to see if I like it. If I like it, I buy it. Usually on DVD, but I still have a few Blu-Rays. (Iron Man, Journey to the Center of the Earth 3D, and Indiana Jones and the Kindom of the Crystal Skull)2009-08-25 02:04:00

Author:
tjb0607
Posts: 1054

Added a poll.2009-08-25 02:46:00

Author:
v0rtex
Posts: 1878

I've only bought The Dark Knight on Blu-Ray. All my others came free when I got teh PS3. I can't justify buying movies when the can be acquired in other ways.2009-08-25 02:55:00

Author:
comphermc
Posts: 5338

We have a few Blu-Rays.. not a ton. Maybe like 10 or maybe 15? Most of those are the ones that it would make a huge difference in quality to see them in HD. Have quite a few DVD's from before we got the PS3 and only a couple have I worried about getting a Blu-Ray copy.2009-08-25 03:17:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383

Yes, I buy Blu-Ray discs. I have many Blu-Ray discs, spanning from MGS4 to LBP.2009-08-25 03:18:00

Author:
qrtda235566
Posts: 3664

Yes, I buy Blu-Ray discs. I have many Blu-Ray discs, spanning from MGS4 to LBP.
LOL - Nice! 		2009-08-25 03:32:00

Author:
v0rtex
Posts: 1878

A already have an extensive DVD collection, so I've just complimented that by adding a few choice Blu-Rays (Batman Begins, The Dark Knight, Cloverfield, Sin City, Blade Runner: the Final Cut, NIN: Beside You in Time), but whenever I'm buying a movie I'm looking for the BD-version. And, yes, I know movies can be acquired in other ways, but I've always liked to have the physical media available. Besides, Norway isn't excactly littered with options when it comes to on-demand streaming.2009-08-25 03:46:00

Author:
slutzinc
Posts: 124

I haven't bought any blu-ray films ever. I don't watch films very much anymore and I never watch TV (well... apart from family guy/ dirty sanchez type of programs because most TV fails now).

I think they'll take over eventually though since I know they're supposed to be so much better than regular DVDs.		2009-08-25 04:11:00

Author:
S-A-S--G-U-N-R
Posts: 1606

Just read this in my local rag's online offering:

PlayStation 3 price drop unlikely to boost Blu-ray (http://www.startribune.com/entertainment/tv/54597662.html?elr=KArksD:aDyaEP:kD:aUq9_b9b_jEkP:Q UiacyKUnciaec8O7EyUr)

Wait, wait, wait, you're from the Twin Cities!?!?		2009-08-25 05:18:00

Author:
Walter-Kovacs
Posts: 542

I have quite the large DVD collection. I'm a movie gal at heart. That said - it is only very recently I bought my first movies on Blue Ray. I picked up Coraline and Watchmen on Blue Ray and I have to say I love the quality. I'm not upgrading my whole collection (goodbye retirement money) but I might pickup a few of the more visually interesting ones if they come out on blue ray.

Helps if they offer a free itunes download with the Blue Ray too - I love me my video ipod and I won't pay for a movie twice.		2009-08-25 05:56:00

Author:
Morgana25
Posts: 5983

Arghhhh... I clearly am an addict...
I bought movies ALL THE TIME. And now, i quite exclusively buy Blu-Ray.

I must have now around 700 DVD and 150 BR at home...
The problem is since i have a son (near to 3 years), i CAN'T see a lot of movie before 1 or 2 month after i buy them....So, i must have 30/40 movies that wait to be seen 		2009-08-25 07:39:00

Author:
Takelow
Posts: 1355

Wait, wait, wait, you're from the Twin Cities!?!?
Yep - grew up in Bloomington. Living in Edina now. Why?		2009-08-25 07:43:00

Author:
v0rtex
Posts: 1878

Yep - grew up in Bloomington. Living in Edina now. Why?

612 for life. South Minneapolis born and raised, I'm going to the U of M now.		2009-08-25 09:43:00

Author:
Walter-Kovacs
Posts: 542

I do buy blu-rays. You really do need a HD television and decent sound system to appreciate them, but if you do, they really do add to the visual impact a film brings. I explain it to people who haven't really understood HD like this.

HD is 1080x720. DVDs are 640x480. VHS is 320x200. If you have seen computers long enough, you will know what sort of a difference that increase in pixels can make, with more words being shown more clearly, easier to see and smoother lines and edges, and more detail in the image. With Blu-ray, you can pause the film at any time and see each invididual eye-brow hair. It just makes such a huge difference to visual quality and impact, and allows you to get so much more out of a film.

I'm more than happy with Blu-ray, and I'm seeking to get some of the better DVDs I own now into a Blu-ray format. I just tend to wait for good specials to be able to do this so I don't break the bank. If I'm getting a new film and it can be bought on Blu-ray, then that's the format I am going to get.		2009-08-25 09:50:00

Author:
Elbee23
Posts: 1280

As a freak of movies I have a huge movie collection, a couple of thousand dvds, and ever since I got my PS3 I have mostly been buying Bluray.

I don't own that many yet as I do buy less movies now since Blu-ray is still is quite expensive.

I love the medium, that's for sure!!		2009-08-25 09:54:00

Author:
Zwollie
Posts: 2173

HD is 1080x720. DVDs are 640x480. VHS is 320x200.

Full HD is 1920x1080		2009-08-25 10:16:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728

Full HD is 1920x1080

You are right. Still though, I don't remember speaking french at the start of the quote. :eek:		2009-08-25 10:21:00

Author:
Elbee23
Posts: 1280

You've just been sneak-surprise-French'd! 2009-08-25 10:24:00

Author:
slutzinc
Posts: 124

You are right. Still though, I don't remember speaking french at the start of the quote. :eek:

You ever press paste instead of delete?		2009-08-25 10:34:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728

I've tons of DVDs, and 5 Blu-Rays, and I'm buying Benjamin Button today.
I'm for owning physical stuff, and in Italy for ? 8,00 you can buy a DVD after a year that is out on theatres.
Blu-Rays are still a bit too expensive, and the movies that are worth of purchase are really few, but the difference with a DVD is ginormous.		2009-08-25 11:09:00

Author:
OmegaSlayer
Posts: 5112

We only have a 720 HDTV, and before the DVD upscaling was available on the PS3, there was a fantastic difference. Now however, the DVD upscaling does a very good job - although not quite as good as Blu-Ray.

As a result, we might buy Blu-Ray for real favourites, but stick to the massively cheaper DVD's for general watching.		2009-08-25 11:24:00

Author:
Rhyfelwr
Posts: 606

if I didn't, you wouldn't see me play PS3 games


nah serious now, I buy them sometimes because the visuals are stunning :3		2009-08-25 12:07:00

Author:
oldage
Posts: 2824

I love buying Blu-rays, I feel like it's the closest that home video formats will ever get to approximating the experience of watching a film at the cinema. And these days I find it harder and harder to get to a cinema to watch films as they're released, which makes it a relief to know that I can always buy the blu-ray later and not miss out on the experience.

Having said that I'm pretty selective with the films I buy, I really hate to have a bad film in my collection

The best films I've bough so far have been Blade Runner, 2001: A Space Odyssey, The Shining and Zodiac. None of them are films that are all about the action or CGI, but the visuals are incredibly important to me and the higher quality makes it that much more immersive.

(slightly off topic, but kind of related) : Also, I hate piracy. It makes me mad 		2009-08-25 13:24:00

Author:
CheesyMcFly
Posts: 211

i rent.

i only own 2 movies on blu ray.
The Last Samuri because thats the movie we bought when we first got ps3 to see the blu ray movies in action! and i got Wall.e for christmas 		2009-08-25 17:44:00

Author:
Snrm
Posts: 6419

I've got a budding Blu Ray collection. Being able to see a lot of my favorite movies in HD, often for the first time, is amazing. Throw them up on a huge screen and a good sound system (or good headphones) if you can manage, and sometimes it's like watching them for the first time again. A few of my favorites: Blade Runner, Planet Earth, Amadeus, Dr. Strangelove, There Will Be Blood, Dark City Director's Cut, The Fountain. I have a crappy edition of Eternal Sunshine (Canadian release), which I'm sure I will replace when a better release comes out. Holding my breath for Alien and Brazil.

Seriously though, one of my favorite movie experiences is putting The Fountain on late at night when it's pitch black and silent, and wearing big cushy headphones with the sound way up. Immersive is definitely the word.



Having said that I'm pretty selective with the films I buy, I really hate to have a bad film in my collection

(slightly off topic, but kind of related) : Also, I hate piracy. It makes me mad

Hahaha... 2 things that make you mad that make me SMILE! let me explain.

Bad movies... I feel like there's just as much to be learned from bad movies as from good movies. Some bad movies are utterly fascinating to me. Nobody sets out to make a bad movie... Nobody wants to be known for making crap. But it happens all the time. Whether it's a genre huckster who sucks at filmmaking (Uwe Boll), or a genuinely interesting, ambitious talent who just drives himself off a cliff (Richard Kelly).

I own Southland Tales on bluray, and that movie is pretty close to atrocious. It's a BAD movie, plain and simple. But it is an incredibly ambitious project from a VERY young filmmaker, and the story behind that is endlessly fascinating to me. I've seen that movie maybe 4 or 5 times, including with commentary. It never gets better. It's awful every time. And yet I am DRAWN to it.

I'm also no fan of Donnie Darko (Southland makes it look like a blazing masterpiece in comparison), but I own that one as well, because Richard Kelly is such a fascination to me. The ambitious failure. He's just about exactly my age as well, and here I am trying to become a filmmaker myself. You can see why it's kind of a mission to me to follow this guy's career and keep tabs.

As for piracy, I actually buy movies more than I ever did before, but I also download like crazy. I download stuff I can't otherwise watch, and it's also a way for me to test the waters so to speak, on certain movies/series.

It's also a great way to seek out really obscure stuff that you just won't be able to find at the videostore. I've been able to find some really hard-to-get stuff by downloading. If it weren't for Piracy, I may never get the chance to actually see the whole Cremaster series. I know going in that I'm getting a lesser experience, but until I'm able to go in and actually see these films somewhere (which may never happen) it's the best I can do.

I've expanded my knowledge of film a hundred-fold as a result of downloading. In the majority of cases, these aren't movies i would otherwise rent. I will admit to occasionally downloading something that I'd used to rent, but I'll be the first to sign up to Netflix if they bring the **** thing to Canada.		2009-08-26 00:15:00

Author:
Teebonesy
Posts: 1937

I know what you mean Teebonesy, I found Southland Tales incredibly fascinating as well, not one of the best but certainly one of the most interesting films I've seen this year.

When I say bad films, I definitely don't mean something like Southland Tales, which still has a lot to offer a viewer. This is probably down to my tastes, but bad to me just means bland and derivative...a film that has nothing new to offer the world except recycled ideas and tired cliches.


And I understand 100% what you mean about downloading to see things you otherwise wouldn't. I admit to downloading a LOT of television shows that I know will never be released in Australia, or that will be shafted by the local TV stations and shown at midnight, if ever.

But at the same time I'm disturbed by the attitudes of a lot of people both online and in real life, when the topic of buying DVDs or blurays comes up, they will just laugh and say that no way will they pay for something they can just get for free.

To me it often comes across as a complete lack of respect for the filmmaker or the efforts of the cast and crew to bring the film to the screen. I know that everyone involved in the production has already been paid, and doesn't rely on DVD sales for a living, but I'm often amazed at how many people I'm at university with who want to work in the film industry in the future display such a cavalier attitude to something which is having an impact on the profitability of films. It isn't just money that lines the pockets of greedy studio executives and producers, but has an important impact on how many and which films are financed.		2009-08-26 01:49:00

Author:
CheesyMcFly
Posts: 211

If its available on bluray and its a movie I like, I get it. I think it was CCubbage who asked me not long ago why I had Grumpy Old Men on bluray. Well its one of my favorite movies, if not my favorite, and it was available on bluray. I give away all my DVD titles that I replace with bluray.2009-08-26 01:52:00

Author:
rz22g
Posts: 340

When I say bad films, I definitely don't mean something like Southland Tales, which still has a lot to offer a viewer. This is probably down to my tastes, but bad to me just means bland and derivative...a film that has nothing new to offer the world except recycled ideas and tired cliches.


Would Battlefield Earth fall into that category? There's also so-bad-it's-good, and I laughed so much at Battlefield Earth, I actually consider it a worthwhile, if incredibly overlong comedy.

I'm with you on middling, derivative crap. That to me is the worst by far. Movies that just churn out by formula on the assembly line. Complete wastes of time.

That and anything by Aaron Seltzer and whoever the other idiot is. The kids who make all the "Movie" movies. Epic Movie. Disaster Movie. Date Movie. Meet the Spartans. etc. It seems they've stopped. 13-year olds eventually caught wise that these movies were total crap. hang on, let me check the imdb.

Jason Friedberg, that's the other guy's name. What wastes of human life these guys are. They're doing Scary Movie 5 right now. *eyes roll so hard they cause terrible injury*

What's this thread about, again?

Oh yeah, blu ray discs.

Planning on picking up Criterion's release of For All Mankind. I love that movie.		2009-08-26 02:15:00

Author:
Teebonesy
Posts: 1937

Kind of the 4th choice.

Except instead of "Buy? Why buy when I can rent?" it's, "Buy? Why buy when I can download?".

Teehee.		2009-08-26 02:22:00

Author:
ChristmasJew
Posts: 431

Never seen Battlefield Earth, but I do intend to some day. To my mind you can't go past the Ed Wood classics for 'so bad it's good'.


On topic, probably the best blurays I've bought have been ones off UK Amazon that are not available where I live, namely Chungking Express and Ashes of Time. Both incredible films, and incredible discs.

Ashes of Time in particular is amazing:

http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/1576/ashesoftimeredux15thumb.jpg http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/478/ashesoftimeredux4thumb.jpg http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/2653/ashesoftimeredux20thumb.jpg

now THIS is the kind of film I love to have on bluray, it is like watching a beautiful painting come to life on my TV set.		2009-08-26 02:39:00

Author:
CheesyMcFly
Posts: 211

Never seen Battlefield Earth, but I do intend to some day. To my mind you can't go past the Ed Wood classics for 'so bad it's good'.


On topic, probably the best blurays I've bought have been ones off UK Amazon that are not available where I live, namely Chungking Express and Ashes of Time. Both incredible films, and incredible discs.

Ashes of Time in particular is amazing:

http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/1576/ashesoftimeredux15thumb.jpg http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/478/ashesoftimeredux4thumb.jpg http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/2653/ashesoftimeredux20thumb.jpg

now THIS is the kind of film I love to have on bluray, it is like watching a beautiful painting come to life on my TV set.

I have yet to see Ashes of Time, but I really like Wong Kar Wai, and I have a special place in my heart for Chungking Express.


I think it was CCubbage who asked me not long ago why I had Grumpy Old Men on bluray. Well its one of my favorite movies, if not my favorite, and it was available on bluray.

You know what, I oughta see that movie again. I haven't seen it since it came out, but I remember really enjoying it, and being really into the frigid cold ice-fishing setting. Plus Jack Lemmon is always gold.		2009-08-26 03:37:00

Author:
Teebonesy
Posts: 1937

Blu-rays I own: Kill Bill (1&2), The Dark Knight

PS: Wong Kar Wai is the man, I should see more since I just got back from 5 months in Hong Kong.		2009-08-26 04:24:00

Author:
Walter-Kovacs
Posts: 542

PS: Wong Kar Wai is the man, I should see more since I just got back from 5 months in Hong Kong.


I've only so far managed to watch two of his films, and so far they have both been incredible. That's a 100% success rate, and I'm looking forward to slowly making my way through his extensive body of work.

I think I'll wait and watch the others as they are released on bluray, hopefully next up will be In The Mood For Love and 2046.		2009-08-26 04:37:00

Author:
CheesyMcFly
Posts: 211

Usenet is my friend.2009-08-26 07:06:00

Author:
BasketSnake
Posts: 2391

Actually i'm only buying specific films and movies because BRDs are too expensive imo. Even some DVDs are.

Also, it's not all movies that are filmed in full HD and when it's the case the BRD isn't all that worth it. Full HD 1080p in my TV is absolutely amazing looking.

.		2009-08-26 17:26:00

Author:
RangerZero
Posts: 3901

Also, it's not all movies that are filmed in full HD and when it's the case the BRD isn't all that worth it.

Films shot on 35mm are actually recorded at a higher resolution than films shot on Full HD...so unless you're talking about films recently shot on lower resolution digital formats, I think you'll find that almost any older film should (if transfered properly) benefit from the higher resolution of bluray.		2009-08-26 22:49:00

Author:
CheesyMcFly
Posts: 211

Films shot on 35mm are actually recorded at a higher resolution than films shot on Full HD...so unless you're talking about films recently shot on lower resolution digital formats, I think you'll find that almost any older film should (if transfered properly) benefit from the higher resolution of bluray.

He speaks the truth. you'd be extremely hard-pressed to find ANY movie that wasn't shot in "high definition" - and what I really mean by that is anything shot in a resolution less than 1080 or equivalent.

35mm film, being a photochemical process, doesn't actually have countable pixels - but there is a rough "equivalent" in digital resolution, and that's measured at about at least 4K (4000 instead of 1080), so, roughly 4 TIMES the resolution of full HD.

There's a camera company, Red, which is releasing an HD sensor called the "Epic 617 Pro" which will be capable of shooting footage at a resolution of 28K. So, knowing how crisp 1080 looks, now imagine 28,000. I don't even think there's a single monitor or projector that has been invented that can display such a thing. What you would do with 28000 lines of resolution is beyond me. I think I've read that the human eye has a rough equivalence of about 60K?

Anyway, getting off topic...

Whenever you see a movie on bluray that doesn't look very good, it's more likely the result of a bad transfer. The best blurays have been mastered from a fresh transfer, where they scan the film, hopefully the original negative, at high resolution, and use the new digital transfer in the bluray.

Criterion Collection is renowned for their incredible transfers of old and new films. They tap professional cinematogaphers, even the original film's cinematographers if they're available, to oversee the film's transfer ("telecine" is the process where they scan film frame by frame and generate extremely high resolution images. It is freaking unbelievably expensive).

EDIT: Did anyone else here buy The Fifth Element on Bluray when it first came out? It looked like garbage. We put it on as our very first bluray movie and we were shocked at how bad the quality was. Turns out, Sony did a slop-job on it, retransfered the movie later on, and offered it as a free trade-in to anyone who bought their original botched version.

So if you still have your old copy of Fifth Element on bluray, get that POS traded in!		2009-08-26 23:03:00

Author:
Teebonesy
Posts: 1937

("telecine" is the process where they scan film frame by frame and generate extremely high resolution images. It is freaking unbelievably expensive).
Yes - the relatively high cost of BD is not merely because it's "new" technology.		2009-08-26 23:06:00

Author:
v0rtex
Posts: 1878

Yes - the relatively high cost of BD is not merely because it's "new" technology.

I don't know about that. Often they will release a "newly remastered" DVD and bluray of a film at the same time, using the same expensive transfer. Then one will be compressed more and squished onto a DVD, while another is put onto bluray at significantly higher resolution and with better sound.

So to some extent I do think that they still charge premium prices for blurays just because it is a new technology, not because it is significantly more expensive to produce. Not that I don't think it's worth it for the higher quality, and I have to say, recently I've been finding blurays are a very reasonable price here in Australia. Last week I bought Zodiac for $28, which is about $US 15-20. Seems worth it to me, and not a lot more than the DVD.		2009-08-26 23:20:00

Author:
CheesyMcFly
Posts: 211

Blurays seem to retail at about $30 new in my experience, and then a few months later can be found for much cheaper at most major stores. I go to HMV here in Vancouver and they have a ton of blurays with "2 for 30" stickers, or sometimes "2 for 20". I even bought some movies new for 30 bucks that ended up dropping in price to 10, 15 not long after. Kingdom of Heaven can be got pretty cheap these days.

HD-DVDs are dirt cheap. I'm tempted to buy them just because they're so filthy cheap. 5 bucks a pop, brand new. I mean, that's like the bottom of the bargain bin.

Alas, what in the hell am I going to do with an HD DVD.		2009-08-27 02:17:00

Author:
Teebonesy
Posts: 1937

Alas, what in the hell am I going to do with an HD DVD.
Dunno... see if it will work in your Betamax player? 		2009-08-27 07:34:00

Author:
v0rtex
Posts: 1878

Well now I want some blurays. . . and a 1080P TV (not gonna happen ).

I was in Staten Island at my Uncles house and he just got this new 55 inch LCD Samsung TV at 1080P definition which is the best you can get and is what blurays play on.

So we watched a couple bluray movies he got and I was stunned at how it was (besides the fact that this TV is freaking HUGE).

Like when I'm watching a movie everything looks unreal but when I was watching the movies on his huge TV it was like they were really there. Like I could just reach in the screen and shake the guys hand.

It was like insane how real it looked. I was wowed to a new level.		2009-08-27 07:47:00

Author:
ChristmasJew
Posts: 431


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