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<center>You heard right, it has finally been revealed, and boy does it come with a lot of content.

What do you receive?


18 new levels made by players just like you.
7 different content packs.
And exclusive access to the upcoming ModNation Online beta
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<center>For information on what exactly you will be receiving, head here. (http://blog.us.playstation.com/2009/08/17/announcing-littlebigplanet-%E2%80%93-game-of-the-year-edition/)

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Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250

At 1.16

Do you thing donkey show may have made a level.
Looks very armour boy ish 		2009-08-17 23:42:00

Author:
dorien
Posts: 2767

Just read this on the PS Blog

I don't really like the idea that new players will be getting exclusive levels and a chance at getting a beta key while loyal fans just carry on as normal though.
I really can't see myself buying this game again :/

We get a bigger announcement tomorrow, still looking forward to that 		2009-08-17 23:42:00

Author:
Dexiro
Posts: 2100

^^; maybe i can't say that......2009-08-17 23:45:00

Author:
jump_button
Posts: 1014

This is a bit unfair... but whatever. I would like to see what the 18 levels are, I'm sure there will be videos eventually for it.


^^; maybe i can't say that......

EDIT: So you made a level then? 		2009-08-17 23:49:00

Author:
S-A-S--G-U-N-R
Posts: 1606

I might not get this cause of school.
I promised myself to study more than play.
If I can, I might get it like.. october, cause I'm not gonna go trick or treating.

This would be fun, the History, Monster Kit and MGS are like what packs I wanting.
I bet it'll be like 80 bucks again, same price as I got LBP.

-Edit-
What's going to be the difference?
Same game but with add-ons?

I also thought they were gonna add a new story level. 		2009-08-18 00:10:00

Author:
Unknown User

That Water Wheel level clearly has Jump_Button art style?

2009-08-18 00:21:00

Author:
Unknown User

Well that's 17 levels I'll never get to play. I tested one of the 18 for a friend a few of months ago. He said MM wanted it for something so he couldn't publish it. I think I saw it briefly in that video.2009-08-18 00:27:00

Author:
keell
Posts: 69

That's a little unfair but this does mean we get a lot more people buy LBP now, and Augest 18th is tomorrow too! but now I want those 18 levels 2009-08-18 00:28:00

Author:
Zhion5991
Posts: 164

if i traded in my copy of lbp and got this, would it still recognize my original lbp game data/saved ata?2009-08-18 00:29:00

Author:
newf52
Posts: 1

lol well look like its out.... hope I dont get told off but it the PS blog so.... who are the other lucky 16

I know donkey show part of it as well		2009-08-18 00:29:00

Author:
jump_button
Posts: 1014

I really hope that they make the 18 new levels into DLC. If not, I might sell my old copy and get the new one.

And the back of the box says Playstation Home connectivity. That can only mean one thing: A LBP Home space!!		2009-08-18 00:35:00

Author:
Darth J464
Posts: 343

lol well look like hope I dont get told off but it the PS blog so.... who are the other lucky 16

I know donkey show part of it as well

Mine's the one in the middle on the back of the box!

So that's 3 of us... I'm just as excited to see the other levels as anyone else probably is.


Also, don't know about anyone else, but I have no idea if they'll be patched into the game for everyone else to play. But I'm guessing they'll want to keep them exclusive to the GOTY edition.		2009-08-18 00:35:00

Author:
Nuclearfish
Posts: 927

So do you guys who gave them a level still have it on your moon? Or did they have you delete it? If you still have it then you can invite players to play it with you.

Actually what's to stop you from just publishing it? Aside from ******* off MM of course.		2009-08-18 00:40:00

Author:
keell
Posts: 69

Still got mine on my moon... If we published it they'll probably just remove it.2009-08-18 00:41:00

Author:
Nuclearfish
Posts: 927

Giving new players the shot at the MNR beta key as an incentive to buy this game doesn't seem fair, but realistically MNR isn't an Mm game... this is Sony's decision. Still... I don't like the fact that it's paired up with Mm or this title based on the Play, Create, Share concept.

I thinks it's pretty poor form on Mm's and Sony's part to add DLC content for free that we've shelled out our hard earned cash for just because they want to put more money in their pockets. Shame on them! It's pretty unfair if you ask me!
Perhaps I should start game sharing and handing out my DLC to other people if this is going to be the kind of lack of respect shown by both parties involved towards the loyal supporters of LBP.

To add insult to injury they are adding exclusive levels too!? Wow... just... wow. This feels more like a bit of a slap in the face than anything to me.

Bad decision guys.... BAAAAAAD decision! Nice way to treat your loyal fans and customers... like fish on a hook. (This is me flipping you the bird Sony!) 		2009-08-18 00:49:00

Author:
Rustbukkit
Posts: 1737

I think I will go and grab this...nothing else to buy till the end of September anyways.

in other news, theres a crazy guy singing One Winged Angel at gamefaqs... <_<;		2009-08-18 00:51:00

Author:
Unknown User

Thanks a lot mm. You just get better and better don't you! I swear I can't take this. If mm keeps this up, even lbp won't be fum anymore.2009-08-18 00:56:00

Author:
Incinerator22
Posts: 3251

I thinks it's pretty poor form on Mm's and Sony's part to add DLC content for free that we've shelled out our hard earned cash for just because they want to put more money in their pockets. Shame on them! It's pretty unfair if you ask me!

I don't really see how its unfair... I wouldn't say they're adding DLC for free, because you have to buy the new version of the game. Most things come down in price over time and offer better-value deals. This isn't really any different. It's better for people who haven't got the game yet. The rest of us loyal LBP fans have had the game almost a year and have had the DLC as soon as its been released. I'd rather pay more to get it sooner rather than waiting.		2009-08-18 00:58:00

Author:
Nuclearfish
Posts: 927

MM just keeps crankin' stuff out.. lol2009-08-18 00:59:00

Author:
Foofles
Posts: 2278

I think I will go and grab this...nothing else to buy till the end of September anyways.

in other news, theres a crazy guy singing One Winged Angel at gamefaqs... <_<;

SEPHIROTH!!! =p (why do you think he's singing that, eh?)

But yeah, that's the predecessor to the Armorboy frame I'm currently working on.

And cool deal Nuclearfish. Congrats in making it in! There's at least one other person here besides you, jump_button, and myself who's on it. Dunno if they still post here that much though.

As for the levels, I'm pretty sure they'll be online for y'all.		2009-08-18 01:07:00

Author:
gevurah22
Posts: 1476

Giving new players the shot at the MNR beta key as an incentive to buy this game doesn't seem fair, but realistically MNR isn't an Mm game... this is Sony's decision. Still... I don't like the fact that it's paired up with Mm or this title based on the Play, Create, Share concept.

I thinks it's pretty poor form on Mm's and Sony's part to add DLC content for free that we've shelled out our hard earned cash for just because they want to put more money in their pockets. Shame on them! It's pretty unfair if you ask me!
Perhaps I should start game sharing and handing out my DLC to other people if this is going to be the kind of lack of respect shown by both parties involved towards the loyal supporters of LBP.

To add insult to injury they are adding exclusive levels too!? Wow... just... wow. This feels more like a bit of a slap in the face than anything to me.

Bad decision guys.... BAAAAAAD decision! Nice way to treat your loyal fans and customers... like fish on a hook. (This is me flipping you the bird Sony!)


Why does a product that isn't adressed to you would make you angry? Did somebody forced you to buy DLC? It's a conscious decision and you could have not buy anything. Now having a re-edition of a game with DLC included and labeled as "game of the year edition" is an evident trend this gen and you should expect as much for most big releases. That's the way it is. If you'd pay attention, you'd notice LBP is FAR from being the first game receiving this treatment.

So now there are people that didn't buy LBP. They didn't see enough value in it to shell money to the opposite of you. Now they make a version with more content now the game's cost is recouped and they can sell it to people that would never have bought it in the first place. What's wrong? More money to them, bigger community for you. Better future for your favorite game because IT IS dependant on its community.

Lastly, since when is the videogame industry not a business anyways? This move makes sense here no matter how you spin it. They even offered you the same DLC before anyone else that will buy this now. Also, why not buy the game for cheap now? Why did you buy it new for 60$ at release if the value is a problem?

No seriously, you can see this negatively to be negative but there's no real reason sorry. It all makes sense and shall have been expected from you (unless you just started gaming of course OR that you really don't look at what's going on in the industry in general). You all the choices in the world to make, you made them consciously and then you whine. This is no good. At worse, you will do better next time being conscious of what the reality of this industry is.

.		2009-08-18 01:10:00

Author:
RangerZero
Posts: 3901

But yeah, that's the predecessor to the Armorboy frame I'm currently working on.



So I was right then 		2009-08-18 01:23:00

Author:
dorien
Posts: 2767

Rustbukkit, I think you are overreacting.

MM said awhile ago that the goty would include DLC so this announcement is no surprise. Also new buyers are not getting that content for free. The goty cost 60 bucks while the original game can be bought for around $40 now. I'm actually glad that all the packs it offers are ones I already have. If it had been exclusive new content then yeah I would be angry because I would have to spend $60 to get new items.

As for the beta to that racing game who cares? It's a game I never heard of and has nothing to do with LBP.

The only thing that bothers me is the 18 exclusive user-created levels. LBP is all about community levels and MM took away 18 of the most promising ones from the loyal fans to give to the newcomers.

They took levels created by the community from the community.

That's just wrong to me. If they want to add some new levels for the goty edition then they should make their own. Not take away from the fanbase.

But then again I'm sure all 18 of those creators were happy and honored to have their levels chosen for the goty edition. They got themselves a crown, tons of attention brought to their creations, and a chance to give back to a company that has given them so much.

So it really is selfish for me, you, or anyone else to criticize what was a mutually beneficial agreement between these people.		2009-08-18 01:25:00

Author:
keell
Posts: 69

Meh, that's not so much as the point as is the fact it isn't worth buying the game over again :/2009-08-18 02:02:00

Author:
Astrosimi
Posts: 2046

First of all, I think this is a great deal. LittleBigPlanet currently runs for $41.49 US on Amazon.com, so the fact that you get about $30 worth of extra content is great for all of those who don't currently own LitttleBigPlanet. Remember, Sony will likely announce a price drop before the holidays (along with a possible PS3 Slim model), so there will be a ton of new PS3 customers looking for the best exclusive games on the PS3. That means we'll have lots of new LittleBigPlanet fans joining our ranks, which is always great news!

Now, regarding the "unfairness" of the DLC coming in the new edition, it's not really unfair. The included DLC, purchased separately, currently costs $28.93 US. Since LittleBigPlanet goes for $41.49 US (via Amazon.com), they're getting a savings of $10.43 US by purchasing this new $59.99 US re-release. That's definitely a good deal, but it's nothing for existing Gadders to complain about. Ask yourself: would you have prevented yourself from buying DLC all of these months to save $10? If the answer is "no", then stop complaining. This updated re-release will do a ton of good for the community, and $10 isn't worth stomping your feet over.

Regarding the levels: the level authors agreed to allow their level to be included exclusively with this new title. Those levels don't belong to the community, they belong to the level authors, and as the authors they have every right to allow their level to be offered exclusively to the GOTY edition. If you don't like it, don't get angry at Sony or Mm - if you were in the Creators' shoes and Mm approached you in this fashion, you're telling me you'd turn them down? I don't think most Creators would honestly turn down the chance at having their level in a re-release of a AAA title.		2009-08-18 02:11:00

Author:
ConfusedCartman
Posts: 3729

They should've made those exclusive levels themselves. No offense to those of you lucky and skilled enough to get your levels made into exclusives for the GOTY Edition, but it just seems like a way for Media Molecule to shovel money into their pockets by using your hardwork. By all means, you guys and your levels probably deserve it, and I sincerely congratulate you all, but it's a little on the cheap end of things, especially for MM.

The Modnation beta doesn't seem like a large enough incentive for us loyal fans, and most already have the DLC that would be shipping with this disc, so really, Media Molecule isn't going to be getting much from us who have the game already.

I understand this is targeted toward the newest of "gadders", but it's not really a smart move on MM's part. I would've at least made a few more "bonus" levels made by Media Molecule, to go alongside these Community levels. It would add more of an incentive for us loyal fans.

Of course, this is just my opinion, I'm sure there are mixed feelings across the board.		2009-08-18 02:15:00

Author:
The Cheat
Posts: 25

They should've made those exclusive levels themselves.

[...]

The Modnation beta doesn't seem like a large enough incentive for us loyal fans, and most already have the DLC that would be shipping with this disc, so really, Media Molecule isn't going to be getting much from us who have the game already.
The point of the re-release was to show off the talent of the community, not Media Molecule. That's the one major selling point of LittleBigPlanet: the fact that the community produces such high-quality levels so often. Including exclusive levels by Media Molecule doesn't exactly achieve that goal - in fact, how many of you would be angry if you discovered that you had to purchase LittleBigPlanet all over again just to get a few exclusive levels? Now that would be unfair.

Regarding your second point, this release definitely isn't aimed at existing LittleBigPlanet owners. As I mentioned earlier, Media Molecule and Sony are working to expand the LittleBigPlanet fanbase. You can call them "cheap" all you want, but the fact remains that they're a business, and their job is to make money. They could have done so by jacking up future DLC prices, but instead they opted to open up LittleBigPlanet to even more people. Why is this being seen as a bad thing? More people means more top-notch Creators, which means more levels to play. That's good news for us.		2009-08-18 02:23:00

Author:
ConfusedCartman
Posts: 3729

The point of the re-release was to show off the talent of the community, not Media Molecule. That's the one major selling point of LittleBigPlanet: the fact that the community produces such high-quality levels so often. Including exclusive levels by Media Molecule doesn't exactly achieve that goal - in fact, how many of you would be angry if you discovered that you had to purchase LittleBigPlanet all over again just to get a few exclusive levels? Now that would be unfair.

Regarding your second point, this release definitely isn't aimed at existing LittleBigPlanet owners. As I mentioned earlier, Media Molecule and Sony are working to expand the LittleBigPlanet fanbase. You can call them "cheap" all you want, but the fact remains that they're a business, and their job is to make money. They could have done so by jacking up future DLC prices, but instead they opted to open up LittleBigPlanet to even more people. Why is this being seen as a bad thing? More people means more top-notch Creators, which means more levels to play. That's good news for us.
But isn't already enough we have 1 million levels? Like you said they're aiming for popularity and more people to make levels.		2009-08-18 02:35:00

Author:
Unknown User

But isn't already enough we have 1 million levels? Like you said they're aiming for popularity and more people to make levels.

1 million levels doesn't mean 1 million good levels. I constantly sift through all the H4H and repetitive "Bomb Hell" and "XX Number of Jump Survival Challenges" just to find good, quality levels. Sure, they were fun the first time, but when it's all you see on the "Cool Levels" page, it gets frustrating.		2009-08-18 02:38:00

Author:
The Cheat
Posts: 25

I`m a little concerned at the idea of community created levels being charged for in the future. Will these 18 levels ever be available to those without the GoTY edition? If they are, will it be at a cost? Can`t say that that idea pleases me too much. Still, will need to wait and see before making any real judgement I suppose.

As for the other stuff, well pretty much every game that comes with DLC gets a GoTY edition. It`s nothing new and doesn`t bother me in the slightest. More creators can only be a good thing in my opinion.		2009-08-18 02:45:00

Author:
Matt 82
Posts: 1096

Oh yeah, good point.
I should get it, free MGS pack... *drools*

They should at least add a new story level, like what happens at the end.		2009-08-18 02:49:00

Author:
Unknown User

Looks great, and it will definitely reel in new members to the LittleBigPlanet community! 2009-08-18 03:02:00

Author:
BSprague
Posts: 2325

There's been no official announcement, but I can see MM releasing these community levels in the same fashion that they released the Creator Pack. Free, but also DLC. It would make the most sense from the standpoint that if these levels are exclusive to only those who purchased the GOTY edition, then we can expect them to not receive all that many plays. Plays are not vital, but since the vision of LBP is Play, Create, Share, then I can see these levels being available to everyone.

Or at least I hope.		2009-08-18 03:14:00

Author:
comphermc
Posts: 5338

Can someone tell me what's the difference here?

GOTY = LBP		2009-08-18 03:18:00

Author:
Unknown User

Can someone tell me what's the difference here?

GOTY = LBP

What are you getting at? I don't understand. Am I not getting your joke?		2009-08-18 03:21:00

Author:
comphermc
Posts: 5338

Sorry to double post, but there is no option to "Read More" on the front page version of this article. It was confusing trying to get to all the comments. Anybody want to address that issue? Thanks.2009-08-18 04:10:00

Author:
comphermc
Posts: 5338

Sorry to double post, but there is no option to "Read More" on the front page version of this article. It was confusing trying to get to all the comments. Anybody want to address that issue? Thanks.
Click the title of the update - it brings you to the thread. There's no "Read More" link because there's no more content to read aside from replies.		2009-08-18 04:15:00

Author:
ConfusedCartman
Posts: 3729

Once again your earlier post CC laid down all the best and true points in my opinion. Thanks for that

Anyways, back to guessing who the other creators are...
Is it possible this is where Geosautus has been all these weeks? Maybe he's been working on a level for GOTY edition.
...Or maybe not


And I'm wondering if Johnee's level (I assume the tank one in the trailer is Johnee) is Future Warzone 2 or something completely different...		2009-08-18 04:21:00

Author:
hilightnotes
Posts: 1230

How can you say this is fair? its fair for the people who don't have lbp, but what about the people who already have lbp? I want those 18 levels, but I don't want to pay $60! But what bothers me isn't the 18 levels, its the fact of how selfish mm is being stealing our own levels and selling them for money 2009-08-18 04:26:00

Author:
Incinerator22
Posts: 3251

Sorry I double posted on accident 2009-08-18 04:28:00

Author:
Incinerator22
Posts: 3251

But what bothers me isn't the 18 levels, its the fact of how selfish mm is being stealing our own levels and selling them for money

It's not stealing. It's not like they took the levels from Cool Pages and claimed them as their own. These levels, which were made for Mm with the permission of the creators, went through a strict QC process before they were given the green light. Do normal user levels get this kind of treatment?

And besides, you people are jumping to conclusions without hearing the entire story. Everyone keeps spouting out whether or not the levels are exclusive or not, when they don't even know that for sure. The only thing that's been labeled exclusive on the announcement is the ModNation Racers beta. I'm pretty positive everyone will be able to play these levels, not just those that buy the GOTY edition.

Besides, this isn't an expansion pack. It's geared toward gamers who are on the fence and then some. Your pains are self-inflicted because you want to be a first adopter. Heck, I bought a PS3 for $600 but I'm not mad the price has dropped or has been bundled with other games. As with anything in technology, let alone business, things depreciate over time. If you want to get things first, you obviously will pay for it. If you have the patience, you will be rewarded.

If you want to double dip, more power to you. =)		2009-08-18 04:53:00

Author:
gevurah22
Posts: 1476

EDIT-Everyone made it seem like we couldnt play the levels lol2009-08-18 05:16:00

Author:
Jrange378
Posts: 573

I seriously cant agree more, this is very lame of mm to give exclusive levels from assumably top notch creators that the rest of the community cant play. Thats the line being crossed imo. I dont really care about the free packs as much as i havent bought them, but now they get good levels to play that i cant? Thats low, and i might even make a level to get the community rilled up about it.

Read my reply above you and you'll realize you're jumping to conclusions without having all the facts.



EDIT: No worries dude. I'd be pretty mad if you guys couldn't play my level. I really put my heart and soul into this one. I even worked through a fever of 101 degrees F to finish it (the wifey was telling me to stop). =)		2009-08-18 05:18:00

Author:
gevurah22
Posts: 1476

I even worked through a fever of 101 degrees F to finish it (the wifey was telling me to stop). =)

*GASP* Bad wifey!

So how much fun did you have creating this level? I'm interested in what you think about it.		2009-08-18 05:30:00

Author:
Roanoake
Posts: 166

Read my reply above you and you'll realize you're jumping to conclusions without having all the facts.



EDIT: No worries dude. I'd be pretty mad if you guys couldn't play my level. I really put my heart and soul into this one. I even worked through a fever of 101 degrees F to finish it (the wifey was telling me to stop). =)

I sure hope so, but if you gave rights to the level to mm for the goty edition, they relly might just keep it on the goty edition. They might have it as priced dlc, or not available to us at all. Or why else would they tout the goty edtion to have 18 levels in it, if the rest of the community can also play them		2009-08-18 05:32:00

Author:
Jrange378
Posts: 573

I sure hope so, but if you gave rights to the level to mm for the goty edition, they relly might just keep it on the goty edition. They might have it as priced dlc, or not available to us at all. Or why else would they tout the goty edtion to have 18 levels in it, if the rest of the community can also play them

Don't take this as official word, but like I said, I'm pretty sure you'll be able to play them without having to buy the GOTY.		2009-08-18 05:38:00

Author:
gevurah22
Posts: 1476

Well hopefully we do get these levels eventually. The thought that they are exclusive to the goty has obviously not gone over well with many people.

It does open up a frightening prospect though. Game companies taking user generated content and selling it back to consumers for a price. Legal issues would probably prevent it from ever becoming a widespread practice but you just know a company like EA would just love an opportunity like that.		2009-08-18 05:38:00

Author:
keell
Posts: 69

I may actually sell my LBP and buy this, as long as I keep all my trophies, levels, stuff from create mode. Why? Because I have no way of getting the DLC, and the Mod Nation Racers BETA would be sweet. I want to be a part of that community before the game comes out.2009-08-18 05:39:00

Author:
dkjestrup
Posts: 672

*GASP* Bad wifey!

So how much fun did you have creating this level? I'm interested in what you think about it.

Like anything, when you're on a deadline... things become a little harder to deal with. I don't know about the other guys and gals who were chosen, but I decided to go with a brand new idea for the GOTY edition versus creating a sequel to a previous level I made, etc.

TBH it was really rough for me. I had just started grad school and was recently promoted at work so there was a lot on my mind. I wanted to fuse a lot of things together from genres that haven't really been explored much in LBP to my own mecha. If I had more time, I think I would have been less stressed but the problem I had was that the ideas I had in mind did not mesh well together in my head for some reason. I think I was trying too hard to come up with something that was different, but I couldn't get it for the life of me.

But with a little perseverance and a nasty fever nearing the end of completion, everything clicked and I went into full on create mode. I really hope you guys enjoy it, especially since I tried not to make it as hard as my other levels beforehand. =)		2009-08-18 06:11:00

Author:
gevurah22
Posts: 1476

It does open up a frightening prospect though. Game companies taking user generated content and selling it back to consumers for a price. Legal issues would probably prevent it from ever becoming a widespread practice but you just know a company like EA would just love an opportunity like that.


Actually that reminds me of when the game first came out, and there being a big fuss about something in the Terms and Conditions which said that either Sony or MM had the rights to anything we created in the game.

I also remember a bit of speculation after that about whether or not they could then charge other users money to play our creations. I guess in a way that is what it's come to, but in this case I think it's being done in a fair and reasonable way (showcasing the work of talented creators like gevurah/donkey show and - I HOPE! - jump button).

I still probably won't ever buy the GOTY edition, but I still think it's cool that it exists.		2009-08-18 06:24:00

Author:
CheesyMcFly
Posts: 211

I know some people who would be very pleased with this edition and who can't get their hands on some much needed dlc because of age or another factor.

I'm interested in these "cream of the crop" levels. Guess I will have to buy them afterwards but we will be able to play these already if we just join a GOTY owner in his pod.		2009-08-18 06:30:00

Author:
Zwollie
Posts: 2173

I know some people who would be very pleased with this edition and who can't get their hands ond some much needed dlc because of age or another factor.

I'm interested in these "cream of the crop" levels. Guess I will have to buy them afterwards but we will be able to play these already if we just join a GOTY owner in his pod.

Very, very good question my friend. I'm wondering that too now.		2009-08-18 06:43:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250

Well if the player created levels are available for us to play then that would be great. I didn't get that impression from the ad though, and it definitely doesn't hint that it will be available unless you buy the GOTY version. It only says 18 new bonus levels. If the levels are not going to cost us players/creators who are already fans then why would they bother even adding them or pointing this out? Are they going to create a special place for these levels near cool pages somewhere? Right now, the wording gives the impression that if you buy the game you get the levels... plain and simple. That's Mm's and Sony's fault for not clarifying the ad. I think we have every reason to be concerned that we won't be able to play these great levels, and every right to be upset about it if we aren't.

Look, it's not that I'm not super happy for all the great creators who have their stuff included in the game.... I'm just ****** that they are giving the impression that the rest of the loyal community won't be able to play these for free like any other great level these folks have put out there.

As for it being a business, yes... I totally get that. It doesn't mean that it's not a crappy deal when they announce they will be giving away something free that you we just paid for what... six days ago (?). Truthfully, I've never bought a GOTY edition of anything... I buy what interests me. If this is the trend with video games then I'm unaware of it. It still doesn't mean that I don't think it's a stupid idea and a bit of a rip off to those who were fans (of any game) in the first place and paid for their DLC as it was released in order to support the company and the community. I'm at least entitled to my opinion aren't I?

As for this mysterious $40.00 price drop you speak of, I haven't seen it anywher here in Canada's capital? The price is STILL $59.99 to $69.99 everywhere in the city. Even if you bought it online you still have to pay S&H. Meh... it's not the price that even concerns me. I just don't see giving away the game's best DLC for free to newcomers as being fair to any of us who paid for it... whether it was our decision or not.		2009-08-18 07:27:00

Author:
Rustbukkit
Posts: 1737

My little 2 cents.
I'm happy for the 18 creators. A LOT.
And I'm quite curious about the rules that MM gave them.

Anyway...there's a little big problem.
MM/Sony have done/are going to do/risk to do (pick your choice) something that is not populare for a part of the community, and this is not ever a good thing.

I don't want to sound c*cky but I think that at least 40% of LBP's success is based on the fanbase, and if they don't release the 18 levels for everyone, it could be a bad move.

Basically Sony/MM can boost all the 1Million + levels thanks to the early user fanbase.
I hope that they will set the thing for everyone and they don't make anyone feel disappointed.

I hope that they won't release the Leprechaun costume in it, since it's the only DLC that I missed and MM doesn't want to give it again, I would even buy it.		2009-08-18 09:42:00

Author:
OmegaSlayer
Posts: 5112

It does open up a frightening prospect though. Game companies taking user generated content and selling it back to consumers for a price. Legal issues would probably prevent it from ever becoming a widespread practice but you just know a company like EA would just love an opportunity like that.

They didn't 'take' anything. They apporoached us asking if we would like to make a level for them. I don't know about any of the other creators, but I started mine from scratch, it wasn't something I would have planned on making and publishing anyway.


Also, I wouldn't be suprised if these levels make their way into a demo. I read in an interview a while back with (I think) Alex Evans, and he said that a demo was something they couldn't have done when the game was released because there was no way for new people to get an idea of what the online community was like (or something like that). Well, now they've got these levels... seems like a good place to put them.		2009-08-18 09:56:00

Author:
Nuclearfish
Posts: 927

Also, I wouldn't be suprised if these levels make their way into a demo. I read in an interview a while back with (I think) Alex Evans, and he said that a demo wad something they couldn't have done when the game was released because there was no way for new people to get an idea of what the online community was like (or something like that). Well, now they've got these levels... seems like a good place to put them.

This sounds very likely indeed. It would be the perfect way to show in a demo the potential of the public without allowing them access onto their servers.		2009-08-18 10:02:00

Author:
wexfordian
Posts: 1904

"Unfortunately there are currently no plans to release the game of the year edition in Europe."

http://community.eu.playstation.com/playstationeu/board/message?board.id=b_EN_GAMES_general_lbp&message.id=49132#M49132


THAT's not fair. 		2009-08-18 10:27:00

Author:
Nuclearfish
Posts: 927

The number of user created levels must be up to 1,3000000000000000000 or something by now so if I'm missing out on 18 of those then whatever. But I'm assuming we'll get to play them anyways. Big thumbs up to MM for choosing people like that. What an honor to have a pic of your level on the back on the cover of the actual game!

I'd probably use the cover as a pillow at night.		2009-08-18 10:46:00

Author:
BasketSnake
Posts: 2391

Just read this on the PS Blog

I don't really like the idea that new players will be getting exclusive levels and a chance at getting a beta key while loyal fans just carry on as normal though.
I really can't see myself buying this game again :/

We get a bigger announcement tomorrow, still looking forward to that

Totally agree, what a major disappointment. This is disgraceful. Why on earth would anyone on here who already has the game want this. I for one have already paid for all that DLC while supporting Mm over the last 9 or 10 months and this is how they repay me. Thanks for nothing Mm.

So they're giving away all the stuff I paid for to 'newbies'. What a smack in the face for us. Apart from the few who have their levels included ( bully for you ) the rest of us get absolutely nothing out of it.

What a total scam.		2009-08-18 10:50:00

Author:
mistervista
Posts: 2210

I don't get people.

Some have major attitude issues.

Its not like you loose anything by other people getting free stuff.

Is it that hard to be happy for other people than yourself?		2009-08-18 10:57:00

Author:
jakpe
Posts: 84

MM has NOTHING to do with distributing beta keys for ModNation.2009-08-18 11:02:00

Author:
BasketSnake
Posts: 2391

I don't get people.

Some have major attitude issues.

Its not like you loose anything by other people getting free stuff.

Is it that hard to be happy for other people than yourself?
TBH, I don't think they're getting much free stuff anyway. You can pick up the original for under a tenner in the UK now, so to buy all those packs from the store works out about the same pretty much. The price was obviously going to drop at some point.

I have to say I'm more unimpressed with their use of user created levels to help sell it. Seeing as there's no new content whatsoever, it's obviously nothing to do with MM and merely a cheeky cash in from Sony. I hope the creators got paid!		2009-08-18 11:03:00

Author:
Kiminski
Posts: 545

I think it's more that they are might be getting stuff that we can't get. I'm personally fine with them getting the dlc. As long as it's dlc I'm still able to get. But, if we can't play the 18 new levels, then I will be really dissappointed. We have supported them for a long time and loved the game they have made. Therefore, it sort of feels like we respect them. So if they won't let us play those levels without buying the game again it will feel like we were betrayed and break our trust.2009-08-18 11:06:00

Author:
Roanoake
Posts: 166

So they're giving away all the stuff I paid for to 'newbies'. What a smack in the face for us.

Get used to it this is how the games industry works now, just about every game thats going to be released will have DLC planed months before release and several of those games will have have goty/ultimate editions with dlc bundled in.

If you don't want to be in situations like this you'll have to delay your purchase of every game by a year just to make sure you're getting the best value for money.		2009-08-18 11:07:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728

TBH, I don't think they're getting much free stuff anyway. You can pick up the original for under a tenner in the UK now, so to buy all those packs from the store works out about the same pretty much. The price was obviously going to drop at some point.

I have to say I'm more unimpressed with their use of user created levels to help sell it. Seeing as there's no new content whatsoever, it's obviously nothing to do with MM and merely a cheeky cash in from Sony. I hope the creators got paid!

Quite right Kiminski. It's the use of user created levels that is really disgraceful. What a scam !! It is as you say just a case of Sony cashing in again although I blame Mm also as Sony couldn't do it without their help. It's just a disgrace from start to finish.

How about sorting the lag issues instead ?? which is actually an important issue.		2009-08-18 11:08:00

Author:
mistervista
Posts: 2210

"Unfortunately there are currently no plans to release the game of the year edition in Europe."

http://community.eu.playstation.com/playstationeu/board/message?board.id=b_EN_GAMES_general_lbp&message.id=49132#M49132




THAT's not fair.

indeed...


I think it's more that they are might be getting stuff that we can't get. I'm personally fine with them getting the dlc. As long as it's dlc I'm still able to get. But, if we can't play the 18 new levels, then I will be really dissappointed. We have supported them for a long time and loved the game they have made. Therefore, it sort of feels like we respect them. So if they won't let us play those levels without buying the game again it will feel like we were betrayed and break our trust.
yeah i wanna play those levels to!


and about that free DLC, i rlly dont care xD		2009-08-18 11:08:00

Author:
Dexist
Posts: 570

I calculated last week how I spent buying all the DLC + the game:
it was nearly 240 ?!
And you MM/Sony don't give me, day one supporte, the chance to play 18 (100% good) levels.
It's not a good choice, in every way you look at it.
And worse than all, it's going to break userbase.		2009-08-18 11:16:00

Author:
OmegaSlayer
Posts: 5112

You spend ?170 on DLC? How? (Assuming you bought the game for ?70)2009-08-18 11:22:00

Author:
Syroc
Posts: 3193

Quite right Kiminski. It's the use of user created levels that is really disgraceful. What a scam !! It is as you say just a case of Sony cashing in again although I blame Mm also as Sony couldn't do it without their help. It's just a disgrace from start to finish.


I don't think MM would have had anything to do with it at all tbh. There's no new content other than user created stuff, so why would Sony need to involve MM and ultimately fork out more dosh?

This way they've managed to create a special edition without having to pay out. Quite clever really.		2009-08-18 11:22:00

Author:
Kiminski
Posts: 545

Clever, Sly, Scam, ANNOYING.
>_<
Although, TECHNICALLY, Sony own your levels.
They have the right to do anything to them.
And at one point they were gonna set up an eBay style system where users can trade levels.
It's somewhere in the ULALA. (Or whatever the agreement is called)

2009-08-18 11:45:00

Author:
BlackHairedGoon
Posts: 160

BHG is right. They didn't even have to ask creators for their permission. They can take there pick of any levels published on their servers and do what they like with them.

Thats what we all agreed to when we all accepted the terms and conditions.		2009-08-18 11:48:00

Author:
wexfordian
Posts: 1904

You spend ?170 on DLC? How? (Assuming you bought the game for ?70)

I count even the costumes.		2009-08-18 11:56:00

Author:
OmegaSlayer
Posts: 5112

Get used to it this is how the games industry works now, just about every game thats going to be released will have DLC planed months before release and several of those games will have have goty/ultimate editions with dlc bundled in.

If you don't want to be in situations like this you'll have to delay your purchase of every game by a year just to make sure you're getting the best value for money.


this

/thread		2009-08-18 11:58:00

Author:
Shadowcrazy
Posts: 3365

BHG is right. They didn't even have to ask creators for their permission. They can take there pick of any levels published on their servers and do what they like with them.

Thats what we all agreed to when we all accepted the terms and conditions.

Yeah it's not like we had a choice though is it. If you wanted to play the game you had to agree to the T&C's. That to me is not a CHOICE!! That's more of a take it or leave it scenario.		2009-08-18 12:00:00

Author:
mistervista
Posts: 2210

I have to say I'm more unimpressed with their use of user created levels to help sell it. Seeing as there's no new content whatsoever, it's obviously nothing to do with MM and merely a cheeky cash in from Sony. I hope the creators got paid!

I'm not really supposed to say anything, but, yes, we did get paid. Obviously I won't say how much or go into details, but I really don't see why its a problem. They didn't just 'take' stuff from the community. And it's only 18 community levels. It's not like they're exlcusively giving away a level pack bigger than MGS with new gameplay tools and stuff. They're just levels, and there's already over 1 million you can play for free.

The reason why there's these levels on the disk is apparantly to persuade people to become part of the community, so they go online and get creating themselves. It's not "Buy this new edition, there's exclusive levels to play!", it's "Here's a few examples of what the community can do, now go online and see what else there is out there".		2009-08-18 12:09:00

Author:
Nuclearfish
Posts: 927

I'm not really supposed to say anything, but, yes, we did get paid. Obviously I won't say how much or go into details, but I really don't see why its a problem.
If you got paid, there isn't one. Congratulations, that's awesome! 		2009-08-18 12:13:00

Author:
Kiminski
Posts: 545

I'm just gonna scratch my current disc and tell my mum it broke...*cough*2009-08-18 12:20:00

Author:
oldage
Posts: 2824

... Players pods in the GOTY edition wont necessarily have to be cardboard... they'll be editable... just like in create mode... Just imagine those Uber-suave concrete, sushi, or *gasp* GOLD noobie pods...

Check it out!

Really? You fell for that huh? Please don't go looking to be unhappy, You Own a great game right now! Be thankful the DLC doesn't include a crown		2009-08-18 12:31:00

Author:
Gravel
Posts: 1308

... Players pods in the GOTY edition wont necessarily have to be cardboard... they'll be editable... just like in create mode... Just imagine those Uber-suave concrete, sushi, or *gasp* GOLD noobie pods...


lol nice one gravel 		2009-08-18 12:33:00

Author:
wexfordian
Posts: 1904

The 18 lvls are just the most popular ones on there now no new ones2009-08-18 12:53:00

Author:
bakscratch
Posts: 258

is this the big August the 18th thing?2009-08-18 13:08:00

Author:
Kern
Posts: 5078

^^^ No, there is going to be an announcement at Gamescon today. Probably several new features will be mentioned. After that hopefully all this concern over the goty will be forgotten.

btw: That is AWESOME that you got paid.		2009-08-18 13:18:00

Author:
keell
Posts: 69

sorry for the double post. I think it would be fairer if it was a competition instead of Selecting the best KNOWN creators,2009-08-18 13:28:00

Author:
Kern
Posts: 5078

The 18 lvls are just the most popular ones on there now no new ones

Stop making stuff up. They're all new.

Do people even read threads anymore before posting?		2009-08-18 14:05:00

Author:
gevurah22
Posts: 1476

Thoose who buy that get free content packs over 30 dollars? and we dont get crap!?2009-08-18 14:08:00

Author:
StaleSteak
Posts: 70

The 18 lvls are just the most popular ones on there now no new ones

no, the creators were specifically chosen and asked to create new levels.		2009-08-18 14:13:00

Author:
Matt 82
Posts: 1096

I've been watching this thread and haven't posted anything yet... but this IS getting kind of ridiculous... I agree with donkey show:

a) READ the information before posting.
b) We don't have all the facts yet.
c) MM has the right to create incentive so they can make money.

Don't get all stirred up. Would I personally pay extra for 18 levels of DLC made by great creators that went through rigorous MM scrutiny?

Absolutely!

Do you HAVE to buy it and should you get made for having to pay for it? No - there's over a million levels out there that you could play in LBP... granted, there's only, as far as I can see, about 10,000 GOOD levels....		2009-08-18 14:16:00

Author:
CCubbage
Posts: 4430

I've been watching this thread and haven't posted anything yet... but this IS getting kind of ridiculous... I agree with donkey show:

a) READ the information before posting.
b) We don't have all the facts yet.
c) MM has the right to create incentive so they can make money.

Don't get all stirred up. Would I personally pay extra for 18 levels of DLC made by great creators that went through rigorous MM scrutiny?

Absolutely!

Do you HAVE to buy it and should you get made for having to pay for it? No - there's over a million levels out there that you could play in LBP... granted, there's only, as far as I can see, about 10,000 GOOD levels....

What you said is right, but I keep saying that the problem is that maybe they are making a move that will upset part of the fanbase, and this is the real problem.
Do you really think that if some good user feel scr**ed and abandons LBP we will find someone better?
I think that whoever was interested in the Create mode of LBP has already bought the game.		2009-08-18 14:27:00

Author:
OmegaSlayer
Posts: 5112

I really don't get why everyone is up in arms over this.

When you buy a game for ?40...you always know that it's going to drop in price eventually. When it does, do you go around screaming that it's a disgrace?

That's pretty much what has happened here, except, instead of dropping the price, they've pretty much kept it at the same price but added content.

Everything comes down in price, that's just life. I really don't understand why everyone is moaning so much.

You can pick the game up for ?10 now, you could just buy it for that and then go and get all the DLC from the platstation store for around the same price. It' pretty much just a promotional technique rather than a great offer.

The only thing that people could possibly be annoyed about here in the 18 levels, but I'm sure Mm wouldn't be stupid enough to deny access to them for the people who already have the game.		2009-08-18 14:38:00

Author:
jackofcourse
Posts: 1494

What you said is right, but I keep saying that the problem is that maybe they are making a move that will upset part of the fanbase, and this is the real problem.
Do you really think that if some good user feel scr**ed and abandons LBP we will find someone better?
I think that whoever was interested in the Create mode of LBP has already bought the game.


Except they've done nothing to upset the fanbase. The fanbase has upset themselves. It wasn't even MM who made the announcement!

Anyways, I say we should stop any more argument on this, and reserve them until we actually know the details.		2009-08-18 15:46:00

Author:
hilightnotes
Posts: 1230

Yeah, I think that the only point is those 18 levels we all want to play.
That's all.
If loyal fans doesn't have the chance to play them it would be really stupid.		2009-08-18 15:51:00

Author:
OmegaSlayer
Posts: 5112

'18 exclusive levels' according to the automated posts from Spaff just 2 mins ago.2009-08-18 15:52:00

Author:
Matt 82
Posts: 1096

Except they've done nothing to upset the fanbase. The fanbase has upset themselves. It wasn't even MM who made the announcement!

Anyways, I say we should stop any more argument on this, and reserve them until we actually know the details.
Agreed.

They should try subbing an mmorpg for a while and see how they like their special editions. More exclusive content than you can shake a stick at!

I currently own three copies of lotro for that very reason. I just couldn't get by without my level 25 mount and Peace Keepers Cloak. 		2009-08-18 15:54:00

Author:
Kiminski
Posts: 545

Except they've done nothing to upset the fanbase. The fanbase has upset themselves. It wasn't even MM who made the announcement!

Anyways, I say we should stop any more argument on this, and reserve them until we actually know the details.

Great post.

I agree.. some of the fans seem quite the reactionary bunch! However, I do love and admire and love the passion over this game. Can't fault anyone for that!

So lets hear the real news before we beat each other up over what we simply do not know. Otherwise I might have to make up something like they are including extra fast light speed rocket cheetahs or a new improved ramp as one of the new levels!! 		2009-08-18 15:55:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383

The 18 lvls are just the most popular ones on there now no new ones

NO they ask us to make new levelsI not use any of the puzzles/gameplay in any other levels

it look a bit like my sky town but that all		2009-08-18 16:04:00

Author:
jump_button
Posts: 1014

I doubt they are going to snub the current LBP owners when it comes to the 18 levels. Im guessing they will be made available at some point.


So do you guys who gave them a level still have it on your moon? Or did they have you delete it? If you still have it then you can invite players to play it with you.

Actually what's to stop you from just publishing it? Aside from ******* off MM of course.

Since a contract is involved they could very well take legal action and would have every right to. It's Sony who you would be ******* off.		2009-08-18 17:02:00

Author:
rz22g
Posts: 340

screw if they upset the fan base i think theyve just made everyone a hell of alot happier2009-08-18 18:05:00

Author:
Kern
Posts: 5078

Yeah, lets just wait and see what happens. Personally.... I like the levels from Jump_button, Gevurah22, and rz22g enough to purchase a whole new copy of LBP anyway.


Any REAL fan of LBP will just spend the money and stop complaining!
2009-08-18 18:45:00

Author:
CCubbage
Posts: 4430

Any REAL fan of LBP will just spend the money and stop complaining!


dang CCubbage - I hate it when you make this much sense. I have to re-evaluate my budget now. 		2009-08-18 18:52:00

Author:
Morgana25
Posts: 5983

dang CCubbage - I hate it when you make this much sense. I have to re-evaluate my budget now.
Yeah, this is where we see who's all talk.

A REAL fan would even buy an entirely new PS3 if Sony released a special one with a big sackboy on the front!		2009-08-18 18:56:00

Author:
CCubbage
Posts: 4430

Yeah, this is where we see who's all talk.

A REAL fan would even buy an entirely new PS3 if Sony released a special one with a big sackboy on the front!

We just bought a 2nd so my girlfriend and I wouldn't have to take turns... not sure I need a 3rd!!! 		2009-08-18 19:06:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383

Yeah, lets just wait and see what happens. Personally.... I like the levels from Jump_button, Gevurah22, and rz22g enough to purchase a whole new copy of LBP anyway.


Any REAL fan of LBP will just spend the money and stop complaining!


not to mention x-nobody-x, geosautus and aardsy. It would appear they made the cut as well. I was just talking to aardsy and x-nobody-x. They're both very excited!		2009-08-18 23:10:00

Author:
xkappax
Posts: 2569

What the hell is the difference?2009-08-18 23:13:00

Author:
Unknown User

This is marketing no different that any other company. For example a computer you buy today will be available in a month or less at the same price with a free monitor or more memory. I dont expect ATI to give me a new video card because I always buy their cards and they came out with the 4890 shortly after I got the 4870.

My level is one of the 18 and I still have to go out and buy it if I want it, which I will do because I want to see the other creator levels, videos and its just cool to see your own level on disc. However I still believe the 18 levels will be made available. Could be wrong. Usually am.		2009-08-19 00:40:00

Author:
rz22g
Posts: 340

This is marketing no different that any other company. For example a computer you buy today will be available in a month or less at the same price with a free monitor or more memory. I dont expect ATI to give me a new video card because I always buy their cards and they came out with the 4890 shortly after I got the 4870.

My level is one of the 18 and I still have to go out and buy it if I want it, which I will do because I want to see the other creator levels, videos and its just cool to see your own level on disc. However I still believe the 18 levels will be made available. Could be wrong. Usually am.

I have to disagree with you on your first point. It's not common practice for the majority of company's out there to release a product then add on free content to new buyers a year later that your initial customers paid money for. When you have add-on content or accessories that sell well, it's in the company's best interest to keep them that way in in order to generate more money... especially when those accessories are popular and in high demand.

Anyways, even though I still think it sucks and is a totally weird thing to do I'm beginning to accept that this is seemingly common practice in the video game industry... which I was not aware of until yesterday after reading so many posts defending Sony's actions.

As for you and the other 17 creators, I'm quite little disappointed to find out that you all weren't given complimentary copies for your dedication and hard work to donate your levels. The disc and packaging total can't be more than $3.00 to print and produce, and I really think Sony ought to just suck up the cost and send you all a free copy... you really do deserve it. 		2009-08-19 04:24:00

Author:
Rustbukkit
Posts: 1737

We just bought a 2nd so my girlfriend and I wouldn't have to take turns... not sure I need a 3rd!!!

lol, you just bought a 2nd PS3? Sony announced that they are cutting the price by $100, starting tomorrow...		2009-08-19 04:25:00

Author:
TheFirstAvenger
Posts: 787

lol, you just bought a 2nd PS3? Sony announced that they are cutting the price by $100, starting tomorrow...


LOL!! Figures... Might see if I can get a refund, but probably not.		2009-08-19 05:01:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383

The way that this GOTY edition was explained is this: For PS3 owners who don't have a connection to the internet, this would hopefully give some incentive for them to go online. By showcasing some hand-picked designer's levels as well as including all the DLC. It's that simple. I think it's actually a great idea. I know of few of my friends who have a ps3 but aren't connected to the internet, so for them this would be perfect. I know it's crazy to think of someone not being connected to the PSN but they're out there. So to get a game with most of the DLC and user-created levels that would otherwise be inaccessible to them is awesome.

Congrats to the other creators chosen and especially to Nuclearfish for getting your level on the box itself. That rocks! You can see a glimpse of my level in the video at 00:31! Very exciting stuff. Definitely getting this when it comes out. As far as exclusivity. I'm not sure they'll be exclusive to the disc. They will probably be featured on "cool levels" area or something like that. Who knows.		2009-08-19 06:09:00

Author:
cstrfrk
Posts: 74

So far then:

jump_button
gevurah22
rz22g
Nuclearfish
Cstrfrk
geosautus
x-nobody-x
aardsy
Blorf


Who could the other 9 be...?		2009-08-19 11:02:00

Author:
Nuclearfish
Posts: 927

here are a few guesses from me.

Wexfordian (keeping it a secret)
NinjaMicWZ
AAAlone
jackofcourse (keeping it a secret)
mdaj
poms
Dr_Vab
FeistyFrog
biddle666


perhaps someone...		2009-08-19 11:10:00

Author:
oldage
Posts: 2824

GrantosUK and/or CCubbage.
I remember one of them saying that he was doing something for MM.		2009-08-19 13:36:00

Author:
OmegaSlayer
Posts: 5112

nemesis ninja said he was doing something for mm as well 2009-08-19 14:33:00

Author:
Kern
Posts: 5078

GrantosUK and/or CCubbage.
I remember one of them saying that he was doing something for MM.

My god you're right! I'm pretty sure Grant told me he was doing something with Mm with 3 others...		2009-08-19 14:35:00

Author:
ARD
Posts: 4291

My god you're right! I'm pretty sure Grant told me he was doing something with Mm with 3 others...

yes, it was me, grant, jackofcourse and ninjamicwz. But it was something mm asked us to do for the beta, so ... it wasn't GOTY edition. Sorry.		2009-08-19 15:03:00

Author:
xkappax
Posts: 2569

Oh, I wonder, wonder what's in a wonder ball...
YouTube - Wonderball		2009-08-19 15:38:00

Author:
Foofles
Posts: 2278

you're probably in it, aren't you foofles? It certainly would make sense.2009-08-19 15:40:00

Author:
xkappax
Posts: 2569

yes, it was me, grant, jackofcourse and ninjamicwz. But it was something mm asked us to do for the beta, so ... it wasn't GOTY edition. Sorry.

Hmmm interesting...What was it that you were doing for them?...I'm in the beta by the way		2009-08-19 15:41:00

Author:
dsgeeno1
Posts: 76

yes, it was me, grant, jackofcourse and ninjamicwz. But it was something mm asked us to do for the beta, so ... it wasn't GOTY edition. Sorry.

Ah, ok. I guess it's still a mystery then...		2009-08-19 15:42:00

Author:
ARD
Posts: 4291

Foofles, are you in the GOTY thing? If so, I feel like a total idiot. Especially after our conversation last night.

What I did for the beta? We made a template for beta contest #2. That's all I'm allowed to say outside the beta forums, though. If you're in the beta, you'll know what I mean, though.		2009-08-19 15:45:00

Author:
xkappax
Posts: 2569

Anyway, the creators have done well to keep these exclusive levels secret though...usually stuff like this would have been leaked a long time ago.2009-08-19 15:49:00

Author:
ARD
Posts: 4291

I don't think NinjaMicWZ did a level for it, but I could be wrong. Unfortunately, he had to sell his PS3 and lbp, so he can't even play/create anymore (he'll be missed).2009-08-19 15:54:00

Author:
comphermc
Posts: 5338

he had to sell his ps3?2009-08-19 16:31:00

Author:
xkappax
Posts: 2569

Yeah, have a look in the 'Gone Thread' in general chat.2009-08-19 16:33:00

Author:
Matt 82
Posts: 1096

'tis a sad day for lbpc. From the gone thread:


Alrighty guys and gals, friends... in the middle of a very unwanted move, currently navigating the New England coastline, and had to sell my PS3 and games (yes, even LBP) for a less than reasonable price. Not sure when or if I'll be able to get another one after I get situated, but I will probably stop in to say hi and lurk around the site every now and then anyway.

Take care of LBP for me while I'm gone 		2009-08-19 16:45:00

Author:
comphermc
Posts: 5338

well, that explains why he disappeared from the beta shortly after the template thing we did together. I noticed his name on the psn said "last online 10 days ago" or something, too, so... now all the pieces of the puzzle are finally coming together.2009-08-19 17:09:00

Author:
xkappax
Posts: 2569


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