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Store update: The History Pack

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Coming today to the LittleBigStore – the History Kit: A creator kit akin to the <a href="http://www.mediamolecule.com/2009/05/21/store-update-monsters-kit-and-costume-pack/">Monsters Kit</a>, packed with new objects, decorations, music, sounds, materials and 140 (zomg!) stickers, all spanning seven classic historical art styles – Oriental, Arabic, Egyptian, Gothic, Roman, Celtic, and Native American.
Check out the trailer below to see the pack in action!
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<blockquote><h3>History Kit : 13/08/09, $3.99 / ?3.99 / ?3.19</h3>
<ul>
<strong>4 Objects:</strong> Chinese Bell, Egyptian Mask, Ancient Greek Vase, Gothic Gargoyle

<strong>5 Materials:</strong> Antique Maps, Islamic Tiles, Egyptian Hieroglyphs, Cave Painting, Tapestry

<strong>13 Decorations</strong> Including Roman Plaque, Persian Brooch, Laurel Wreath

<strong>140 Themed stickers</strong>

<strong>Sounds:</strong> ?Sounds of yore?

<strong>Music:</strong> ‘The Chrysalis of Eternity’ by Kenneth Young

<strong>Background:</strong> The Pantheon

<strong>All neatly showcased in a Gallery Level</strong></ul>
</blockquote>
<img src="http://www.mediamolecule.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/history-stickers-600x600.jpg" alt="history-stickers" title="history-stickers" width="600" height="600" class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-1717" />
<blockquote><h3>History Costume Pack : 13/08/09, $2.99 / ?2.99 / ?2.39</h3>
Accompanying the History Creator Kit, a set of costumes to match, based on four most <em>non heinous</em> historical figures . These costumes are also available individually.
</ul>
<strong>Ada Lovelace:</strong> Wig, Hair, Dress (<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/mediamolecule/3818168858/">pic</a>)

<strong>Genghis Khan:</strong> Beard, Hat, Trousers, Armour (<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/mediamolecule/3817284959/">pic</a>)

<strong>Boudica:</strong> Spear, Hair, Sandals, Dress (<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/mediamolecule/3818094214/">pic</a>)

<strong>Mozart: </strong>Powdered wig, Breeches and Socks, Coat (<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/mediamolecule/3817369155/">pic</a>) </ul>
</blockquote>
<img src="http://www.mediamolecule.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/blog_lovelace.png" alt="Ada Lovelace" title="Ada Lovelace" width="155" height="235" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1786" style="float:left; margin: 0 10px; 0 0"/>
<br/><strong style="font-size: 18px">Ada Lovelace </strong><br/>

In 1842-43, Augusta Ada King (born Byron), Countess of Lovelace wrote a method for calculating a sequence of Bernoulli numbers for Charles Babbage?s Analytical Engine. This method is recognised as the world?s first computer program, and so she is considered to be the ?first computer programmer?. She also foresaw the capability for computers to go beyond calculations and number crunching, and holds the world record score for Breakout.
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<img src="http://www.mediamolecule.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/blog_boudica.png" alt="Boudica" title="Boudica" width="220" height="235" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1785" style="float:right; margin: 0 0 0 10px;"/>
<br/><strong style="font-size: 18px">Boudica </strong><br/>

Boudica, Queen of the Eastern English Iceni tribe in the 1st century AD, was the leader of a revolt against the Romans. Although this rebellion was successful initially, and the British Roman capital was destroyed, Boudica eventually fell to the Romans in 62 AD. She is considered to be a heroine who died defending the liberty of her country. Freeeeeeedoommm!! oh wait, wrong person.
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<img src="http://www.mediamolecule.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/blog_genghis.png" alt="Genghis Khan" title="Genghis Khan" width="157" height="235" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1787" style="float:left; margin: 0 10px; 0 0"/>
<br/><strong style="font-size: 18px">Genghis Khan </strong><br/>

This guy we picked up in medieval Mongolia, in the year 1269. Please welcome, the very excellent barbarian – Mister Genghis Khan! This is a dude, who 700 years ago totally ravaged China, and who were told, two hours ago, totally ravished Oshmans’ Sporting Goods!
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<img src="http://www.mediamolecule.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/blog_mozart.png" alt="Mozart" title="Mozart" width="189" height="235" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1788" style="float:right; margin: 0 0 0 10px;"/>
<br/><strong style="font-size: 18px">Mozart </strong><br/>

Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart is widely considered to be the most significant and influential composer of the Classical era. The musical prodigy began composing in 1757 at the age of 5 and wrote his first symphony just 3 years later. Inspired by the music around him, he went on to create some of the most popular and outstanding masterpieces in classical music, including the popular 80s song – Rock me Amadeus.
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"Store update: The History Pack" is an automatically posted news item which was grabbed from MediaMolecule.com (www.mediamolecule.com). The original article can be found here (http://www.mediamolecule.com/2009/08/13/store-update-the-history-pack/).		2009-08-13 17:20:00

Author:
Spaff_Molecule
Posts: 421

Already have the pack, and the stickers are amazing the new sounds and music is also great 2009-08-13 17:23:00

Author:
Comet Wolf
Posts: 99

Why do I have to be on holiday!

Enjoy messing around with the kit you guys, I can't wait to get home and download it.
nice peices about the costumes as well		2009-08-13 17:23:00

Author:
Coxy224
Posts: 2645

Yay!!! I wanna hear the music track!2009-08-13 17:30:00

Author:
Leather-Monkey
Posts: 2266

my only complaint is that the music is not interactive. pulling apart that music was what I was looking forward to the most . still some great stuff in there.2009-08-13 17:32:00

Author:
Matt 82
Posts: 1096

my only complaint is that the music is not interactive. pulling apart that music was what I was looking forward to the most . still some great stuff in there.

Absolutely - this music track is beautiful, but to have the chance to cut it up and just have those gorgeous pan pipes (shakuhachi?) sounds on their own *sigh*

Good stuff though - actually I love the decorations too. And the Sounds FX.

Verdict: Worth Buying 		2009-08-13 17:34:00

Author:
MrsSpookyBuz
Posts: 1492

What???
It is released?
Oh, i can't wait to turn on my PS3....
But i am not at home...		2009-08-13 17:35:00

Author:
Takelow
Posts: 1355

*Peswading my mum to get her HOLY credit card out and put details in and go to littlebigstore/playstation store add funds Then get the ****ing brill thing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! * SE SE SHE SAID.............................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. ..................NO2009-08-13 18:13:00

Author:
Unknown User

Now i patiently wait for the U.S Store to update.....2009-08-13 18:37:00

Author:
JKthree
Posts: 1125

my only complaint is that the music is not interactive. pulling apart that music was what I was looking forward to the most . still some great stuff in there.

Awwww maaaaaan!? That's a bummer.... I was really hoping Mm would start including more interactive tracks with their packs.

Oh well, at least the pack is getting solid reviews so far... can't wait till this evening when Canada's store updates. 		2009-08-13 18:39:00

Author:
Rustbukkit
Posts: 1737

Im disapointed, half the stuff in the trailer isn't there :/
Like the time machine thing.		2009-08-13 18:41:00

Author:
Adam9001
Posts: 744

It's a great pack, the Pantheon background is very nice and there are an incredible amount of stickers to collect, as well as some cool accessories, objects and sound effects. I am a little disappointed however, at the music track. It's a great song but I so much wish it were interactive. Still it is an awesome, almost epic song which ends a little too soon but will make you wait impatiently for the loop to begin again.
All in all, a great level kit that, in my opinion, is even better than the Monsters kit. :star::star::star::star:		2009-08-13 19:12:00

Author:
persona3fan93
Posts: 155

Aiya! I'm itching to get my hands on this!

I think I might even buy the costumes for the first time! Not decided on that yet though...		2009-08-13 19:15:00

Author:
hilightnotes
Posts: 1230

Nice Bill and Ted references .
This pack looks INCREDIBLE! Anyone got an ETA on the US store update?		2009-08-13 19:41:00

Author:
iiiijujube
Posts: 594

Loved the Bill and Ted reference on the Genghis Khan description.2009-08-13 19:50:00

Author:
dandygandy2704
Posts: 1002

Like the time machine thing.

They built the time machine out of existing materials. So, you could build it if you want.		2009-08-13 19:52:00

Author:
mrsupercomputer
Posts: 1335

Aaahhh, US store update faaasteeeeerrr!2009-08-13 20:01:00

Author:
Project_MK
Posts: 80

I'm really loving the pack. I did however notice that the gargoyle object, while looking spectacular, takes up 2 bars of the thermometer. Rendering it almost useless. I really like the music, though it's a shame you can't edit it. The sounds and materials are also brilliant.2009-08-13 20:01:00

Author:
Killian
Posts: 2575

They built the time machine out of existing materials. So, you could build it if you want.

Yes but what makes a good trailer is its actualy true.		2009-08-13 20:11:00

Author:
Adam9001
Posts: 744

Theres some very cool stuff. I've been waiting for it to finish a section of my level, and start the new one, and its fit perfectly.

I think the Monster Pack had better stuff that you'll use more frequently, but all of the stuff is still of a very high quality. I forgot to check the background though 		2009-08-13 20:14:00

Author:
GruntosUK
Posts: 1754

Waitwhatthegargoyledoes?
It sucks 2 bars?
I didn't notice it since I was spamming object to eliminate the "aura" that new objects has and that makes me nervous.
Anyway, the costumes are great, I really enjoyed Boudica's and Mozart's wigs, and Gengis' hat and the AWESOME beard.		2009-08-13 20:17:00

Author:
OmegaSlayer
Posts: 5112

I haven't seen everything yet but i was a bit disappointed by this, maybe i just got too hyped up about it

I didn't like the materials as much as i thought i would and the background is terrible, but the music is the best yet!

I still have to dig through the stickers and decorations but i rarely use either of those anyway 		2009-08-13 21:07:00

Author:
Dexiro
Posts: 2100

For the glory of Rome, the background is awesome! 2009-08-13 21:11:00

Author:
OmegaSlayer
Posts: 5112

Is it out in the US anywhere yet? 2009-08-13 21:14:00

Author:
iiiijujube
Posts: 594

The tapestry material has Rex and some other letters written on it which I assume is code. Rex is their art dude who probably drew the art on the material.2009-08-13 21:25:00

Author:
BasketSnake
Posts: 2391

The tapestry material has Rex and some other letters written on it which I assume is code. Rex is their art dude who probably drew the art on the material.

I love self-referencing things like that.

Can't wait to pick up the pack - has the US store been updated yet? I might even buy a costume or two...		2009-08-13 21:27:00

Author:
SLS10
Posts: 1129

Actually not...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rex_Nemorensis		2009-08-13 21:36:00

Author:
OmegaSlayer
Posts: 5112

Man, it sucks waiting for the store to update! Gah! I'm going to film the level, so anyone who doesn't know if they really want the pack can see what it's like.2009-08-13 21:41:00

Author:
Kog
Posts: 2358

Very nice indeed, yes wish the tune was interactive... but hey-ho... its all good

Cant wait for them to release the sticker cut-out tool, which was obviously used throughout the gallery level		2009-08-13 22:08:00

Author:
stuk71
Posts: 86

The tapestry material has Rex and some other letters written on it which I assume is code. Rex is their art dude who probably drew the art on the material.

nah i think it's about William the Conqueror, i learned that in history in school!

i literally (by luck) checked the store AS SOON as it updated, bought it and when i finished the level, i was...... 1ST ON THE SCOREBOARD!!! :arg:

ahem.

I'm probably not now. Anyway, the pack is awesome, making a short Roman level now! 		2009-08-13 22:28:00

Author:
MarkoWolfy
Posts: 445

Bah! The U.S. store still hasn't updated, and I'm leaving for a week in a moment... and level level I've slaved over the past two weeks is completely roman themed. I was planning on inserting new things and changing many of the materials, as well as adding the new music and background, but now I need to wait for quite a while .

Curses!		2009-08-13 22:50:00

Author:
Shredator
Posts: 151

It just hit the Canada store, so it should be up in the US now.2009-08-13 22:52:00

Author:
Rustbukkit
Posts: 1737

Yep, it's up in the American store, just bought it, as well as Ico pack... dang Gravel, making me buy stuff for his prop designing... YOU HEAR THAT GRAVEL? You better use that Ico pack

2009-08-13 22:56:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882

It just hit the Canada store, so it should be up in the US now.

How annoying for Shredator, who is leaving in minutes.

Danny said in Mm's podcast that it takes 10 WEEKS to make a professional level... was it really 10 weeks between this and the Monster Pack? hm...		2009-08-13 22:57:00

Author:
MarkoWolfy
Posts: 445

Danny said in Mm's podcast that it takes 10 WEEKS to make a professional level... was it really 10 weeks between this and the Monster Pack? hm...
It's very likely that they work on more than one level at a time. So it takes 10 weeks to make a professional level, but they can work on two (sometimes even three) at a time if they're at different stages of development. E.G. they could be simultaneously polishing one level, halfway through another, and conceptualizing a third, allowing them to finish these three levels in about 15-25 weeks instead of 30.		2009-08-13 23:16:00

Author:
ConfusedCartman
Posts: 3729

I'm really loving the pack. I did however notice that the gargoyle object, while looking spectacular, takes up 2 bars of the thermometer. Rendering it almost useless. I really like the music, though it's a shame you can't edit it. The sounds and materials are also brilliant.

It only took over half of a bar or notch on the thermo for me. Weird. 		2009-08-13 23:20:00

Author:
Reef1978
Posts: 527

Cool pack. Any pack that contains material, music, sounds or decorations is worth the money for me.2009-08-13 23:23:00

Author:
Jaeyden
Posts: 564

I'm really loving the pack. I did however notice that the gargoyle object, while looking spectacular, takes up 2 bars of the thermometer. Rendering it almost useless.

How much it takes up will depend on what you already have in the level. If another thermometer is dominating, you won't see any increase at all.

I guess it's all about optimization.		2009-08-13 23:46:00

Author:
BSprague
Posts: 2325

I'm so buying this tonight even if I come in late from overtime.

.		2009-08-13 23:53:00

Author:
RangerZero
Posts: 3901

OMG I can't believe no one has mentioned the sounds!!!!!


They FINALLY added the clock tick and chimes that I have always been waiting for!! I totally didn't expect that at all, you have no idea how happy this makes me!!

*runs to update Jumping Castle level*

edit: 		2009-08-14 00:46:00

Author:
CheesyMcFly
Posts: 211

You can't really call this a 'level'... It's a gallery.2009-08-14 01:28:00

Author:
Ryutei
Posts: 244

Bought this earlier and overall it's a great pack. The decorations are really good and i can see a lot of stuff in this pack being very useful on all sorts of levels.

For anyone who doesn't have it yet I put all the stuff in a blank level so you can take a look before you buy.

With regards to the thermo I didn't take note of each item but I can tell you that I simply placed stickered cardboard as a thin layer background to hold all the items for display and used the 'Pantheon' background you get with the pack and the thermo is at about 3/4 full. Wouldn't leave much room for gameplay if you used it all at once. Not that you ever would of course.

Anyway it's up there if you want to take a look first. Just search my levels.		2009-08-14 01:39:00

Author:
mistervista
Posts: 2210

YouTube - LBP DLC ~ History Kit


2009-08-14 02:06:00

Author:
Kog
Posts: 2358

YouTube - LBP DLC ~ History Kit (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjPg_Y4SwqM)




Wow, 156 new items + the 9 you got at the scoreboard! I know that it says all of this in the first post, but it's still amazing to actually see it all. I hope it doesn't give you a "Profile Full" message.

I'm definitely getting this on my next trip to the Playstation Store.

Once again, amazing work MediaMolecule.		2009-08-14 02:15:00

Author:
BSprague
Posts: 2325

The history level is just awful, poor atmosphere, no creativity. Given that it's not MGS-esque in terms of scope, it could've at least TRIED like the monster pack. Regardless, the materials are decent at best, the stickers are good, the sounds look simply AWESOME, and the song seems good...

The costumes could be much better...

I want a Robbespierre sack person NOW		2009-08-14 02:44:00

Author:
Aurongel
Posts: 221

I'm gonna buy this in a sec. What does everyone think of the costumes compared to other costumes? I'm thinking I'll buy my first costume set, and this seems like it would be really useful to me. But does anyone think there's another costume set that's much better?2009-08-14 03:07:00

Author:
hilightnotes
Posts: 1230

GUYS SOMEONE HELP ME OUT HERE PLEASE.....I THINK THIS HISTORY PACK IS FILLING UP MORE OF OUR PROFILE SPACE....MY GAME WAS FINE AND WHEN I BOUGHT THIS ALL WAS WELL...THEN I STARTED PLAYING THE LEVEL TO OBTAIN ALL THE ITEMS AND OBJECTS, NO PROB...BUT NOW EVERYTIME I QUIT THE GAME MY PS3 DOES THE TRIPLE BEEP AND REBOOTS...AND WHEN I CHECK MY GAME SAVE ITS THE LAST SAVE I HAD NOT THE CURRENT SAVE( I KNOW THIS BECAUSE I ALWAYS CHANGE MY COSTUME TO MAKE IT NOTICEABLE) AND THE WORST PART ABOUT THIS WAS THAT THE GAME DIDN'T TELL ME THAT MY PROFILE WAS FULL OR ANYTHING...I DON'T EVEN THINK THE SACKBOY RUNNING HDD AUTOSAVE WAS SHOWING UP NEITHER....

oh also for anyone who's about to tell me that it isn't the pack...i did a test of just loading up the last save...and quitting the game and no triple beeps happened...and obviously no save game change

but the triple beep reboot happened 2 times to me...and it sucks because i had just finished playing and hearting every community spotlight level :'(

idk whats going on but someone help this really sucks if i just wasted money on a pack that just filled up my profile....

hopefully this is something that has happened to everyone and forces Mm to increase our space or let us use our HDD to save as much as we want this really is a let down and it just killed me inside		2009-08-14 08:05:00

Author:
Shadowcrazy
Posts: 3365

There is still no showcase level. Usually there are at least ten. 2009-08-14 10:01:00

Author:
Syroc
Posts: 3193

GUYS SOMEONE HELP ME OUT HERE PLEASE.....I THINK THIS HISTORY PACK IS FILLING UP MORE OF OUR PROFILE SPACE....MY GAME WAS FINE AND WHEN I BOUGHT THIS ALL WAS WELL...THEN I STARTED PLAYING THE LEVEL TO OBTAIN ALL THE ITEMS AND OBJECTS, NO PROB...BUT NOW EVERYTIME I QUIT THE GAME MY PS3 DOES THE TRIPLE BEEP AND REBOOTS...AND WHEN I CHECK MY GAME SAVE ITS THE LAST SAVE I HAD NOT THE CURRENT SAVE( I KNOW THIS BECAUSE I ALWAYS CHANGE MY COSTUME TO MAKE IT NOTICEABLE) AND THE WORST PART ABOUT THIS WAS THAT THE GAME DIDN'T TELL ME THAT MY PROFILE WAS FULL OR ANYTHING...I DON'T EVEN THINK THE SACKBOY RUNNING HDD AUTOSAVE WAS SHOWING UP NEITHER....

oh also for anyone who's about to tell me that it isn't the pack...i did a test of just loading up the last save...and quitting the game and no triple beeps happened...and obviously no save game change

but the triple beep reboot happened 2 times to me...and it sucks because i had just finished playing and hearting every community spotlight level :'(

idk whats going on but someone help this really sucks if i just wasted money on a pack that just filled up my profile....

hopefully this is something that has happened to everyone and forces Mm to increase our space or let us use our HDD to save as much as we want this really is a let down and it just killed me inside

Is the triple bleep bad?

Anyways, are you sharing profiles? Because I heard that other profiles takes up the same space.		2009-08-14 10:46:00

Author:
Count
Posts: 315

Uhm, played a showcase level. Can't say it convinced me to buy it now. The song is good but it would be a lot better if it was an interactive track. Not a fan of modern bit at the end. :/
I wait until they get those PSN cards to Europe.		2009-08-14 11:19:00

Author:
Syroc
Posts: 3193

I picked this up last night.. I think the coolest part is the sound object and some of the stickers. Great sounds!!!

The music is cool and having an extra tune is wonderful, but as others have mentioned I wish it had have been interactive. The stickers I was most excited to see are the line art ones with transparent background. I love having extra ones of those around to play with over the top of color stickers.

The background may come in handy as well!!		2009-08-14 12:03:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383

GUYS SOMEONE HELP ME OUT HERE PLEASE.....I THINK THIS HISTORY PACK IS FILLING UP MORE OF OUR PROFILE SPACE....MY GAME WAS FINE AND WHEN I BOUGHT THIS ALL WAS WELL...THEN I STARTED PLAYING THE LEVEL TO OBTAIN ALL THE ITEMS AND OBJECTS, NO PROB...BUT NOW EVERYTIME I QUIT THE GAME MY PS3 DOES THE TRIPLE BEEP AND REBOOTS...AND WHEN I CHECK MY GAME SAVE ITS THE LAST SAVE I HAD NOT THE CURRENT SAVE( I KNOW THIS BECAUSE I ALWAYS CHANGE MY COSTUME TO MAKE IT NOTICEABLE) AND THE WORST PART ABOUT THIS WAS THAT THE GAME DIDN'T TELL ME THAT MY PROFILE WAS FULL OR ANYTHING...I DON'T EVEN THINK THE SACKBOY RUNNING HDD AUTOSAVE WAS SHOWING UP NEITHER....

oh also for anyone who's about to tell me that it isn't the pack...i did a test of just loading up the last save...and quitting the game and no triple beeps happened...and obviously no save game change

but the triple beep reboot happened 2 times to me...and it sucks because i had just finished playing and hearting every community spotlight level :'(

idk whats going on but someone help this really sucks if i just wasted money on a pack that just filled up my profile....

hopefully this is something that has happened to everyone and forces Mm to increase our space or let us use our HDD to save as much as we want this really is a let down and it just killed me inside
Dont talk in caps.

There is still no showcase level. Usually there are at least ten.
There is.		2009-08-14 12:27:00

Author:
Adam9001
Posts: 744

Danny said in Mm's podcast that it takes 10 WEEKS to make a professional level... was it really 10 weeks between this and the Monster Pack? hm...
wait, wasn't it only a gallery level in the pack? they aren't professional :arg:


edit: thanks for the level, mistervista.		2009-08-14 12:36:00

Author:
oldage
Posts: 2824

wait, wasn't it only a gallery level in the pack? they aren't professional :arg:

exactly. He was talking about building a level in the main game which is obiously far more detailed.

doesn't take long to put together a gallery level like this. Especiallywhen they have access to that sticker cutout tool.		2009-08-14 12:41:00

Author:
wexfordian
Posts: 1904

exactly. He was talking about building a level in the main game which is obiously far more detailed.

doesn't take long to put together a gallery level like this. Especiallywhen they have access to that sticker cutout tool.

It may not take long to put the gallery level together, but I'm guessing it takes a long time to design all of the sounds, materials, objects, stickers, music, backgrounds, etc that are in it. 		2009-08-14 13:42:00

Author:
BSprague
Posts: 2325

It may not take long to put the gallery level together, but I'm guessing it takes a long time to design all of the sounds, materials, objects, stickers, music, backgrounds, etc that are in it.

Oh definitely. I was just talking about the role of the level designer though. all the objects, stickers and sounds are the sound guy and the 3d artists problem 		2009-08-14 14:22:00

Author:
wexfordian
Posts: 1904

GREAT mini pack! There's a lot of content in there - I always look forward to seeing what people come up with once they have some of these things. This pack is definately worth the money.2009-08-14 14:43:00

Author:
CCubbage
Posts: 4430

Yup, it's definately worth half a mcDonalds meal Seriously I don't see how anyone can say it's "not worth the money".

Hell the sounds and that persian gryphon decoration are enough to warrant the cost.


Obviously if you genuinely can't afford it then that's something different		2009-08-14 14:49:00

Author:
rtm223
Posts: 6497

wait, wasn't it only a gallery level in the pack? they aren't professional :arg:

they're from Mm, they are of course professional.

Anyway, I think they are working on the next level pack at the same time too, thanks to Cartman's comments on page 3. Thanks man.		2009-08-14 14:52:00

Author:
MarkoWolfy
Posts: 445

Yeah, I love this pack. The objects in it are very well done.

mnnnn..... maybe a timetraveling series?

I've always wanted to do a celtic themed one.....

ooohhh the options 		2009-08-14 14:53:00

Author:
wexfordian
Posts: 1904

This pack is all gravy folks! The new background is cool because it has several different looks contained within the "Pantheon"... very useful. The song is quite simply brilliant but with grow tedious in little time, you can get so much more mileage out of an interactive track. The sounds are different and unique from what has come before... a first! The materials and objects simply needed... hmmm, whats that leave?

Stickers. So many your eyes will tear. Some that will also be very useful for the creative and uncreative alike. Even the costumes are cheap this time around, and if I may add, they contain some great bits-with good detail.

The gallery itself is pretty bland and devoid of any innovation or creative spark... there are no: Cool! or How'd that...? moments. Which makes me wonder if as creators we've out-paced our masters?

I am very happy. What are you waiting for?		2009-08-14 14:53:00

Author:
Gravel
Posts: 1308

I am very happy. What are you waiting for?

a Ratchet and Clank pack.

I just look at the gallery level and think it's pretty bland, but there is soo much stuff for creators to use! AMAZING.

Now my PSN Wallet is empty... 		2009-08-14 14:55:00

Author:
MarkoWolfy
Posts: 445

I am very happy. What are you waiting for?

PSN cards. Or several more things I want off the PSN store as I can't be bothered entering my CC details. 		2009-08-14 14:56:00

Author:
Syroc
Posts: 3193

I love the History Pack so much, now I'm wondering if I should go back and get the Monsters Pack too...the History Pack is the first DLC I've bought since the MGS level pack, and now I'm wondering if all the DLC has been this amazing...2009-08-14 15:02:00

Author:
CheesyMcFly
Posts: 211

If you love costumes... 2009-08-14 15:13:00

Author:
Syroc
Posts: 3193

I love the History Pack so much, now I'm wondering if I should go back and get the Monsters Pack too...

I couldn't have done the whole First person view thing without the monster pack so I love it!		2009-08-14 15:16:00

Author:
wexfordian
Posts: 1904

I couldn't have done the whole First person view thing without the monster pack so I love it!


And I still want to know how you did that!!!! 		2009-08-14 15:18:00

Author:
CheesyMcFly
Posts: 211

I couldn't have done the whole First person view thing without the monster pack so I love it!

When I got them the only idea that came to me was maybe a giant mutant sackboy enemy. You however have used them wonderfully!		2009-08-14 15:21:00

Author:
persona3fan93
Posts: 155

Yay! I bought both the Kit and the Costumes, which were my first costume set. I like the costumes - in fact, the best part of them is that it is just soooo much fun to scratch Genghis Khan's beard! Here's how you do it:
Put on one angry face, so he looks like a ferocious barbarian in thought. Then, move your arm to the bottom-ish of his beard and tap R2/L2 to make him scratch it!

I also really like the Kit. I haven't played with it much yet, but I love the music (although of course like everyone I wish it was interactive), the decorations are epic, especially for pod decorating
I haven't checked out the stickers and sounds much yet, but the background looks very good as well.

Great buy!		2009-08-14 15:25:00

Author:
hilightnotes
Posts: 1230

And I still want to know how you did that!!!!

No secret, you get a sackboy arm as a decoration in the monster pack. I just had the player in the back layer and positioned the arms accordinly simple		2009-08-14 15:27:00

Author:
wexfordian
Posts: 1904

No secret, you get a sackboy arm as a decoration in the monster pack. I just had the player in the back layer and positioned the arms accordinly simple

Wow, I had no idea there was an arm in the Monster Pack! But still, the way you pulled it off was absolutely incredible, my mouth was wide open through the whole of that level!		2009-08-14 15:30:00

Author:
CheesyMcFly
Posts: 211

I knew how he did it and my mouth was still wide open all the way through 2009-08-14 15:36:00

Author:
rtm223
Posts: 6497

I'm just excited to see new levels start popping up which make use of the History Pack contents, right now the possibilities for some of them are blowing my mind!2009-08-14 15:40:00

Author:
CheesyMcFly
Posts: 211

Next thing you know, someone will make a time-machine level with the history pack decor that will actually transport YOU through time by psychologically inducing a connection between you and your Sackboy using the trippy Jon Burgerman stickers!! 0iz!2009-08-14 15:44:00

Author:
hilightnotes
Posts: 1230

I know, after checking out all of the stuff I don't know where to start. I've always wanted to do an egyptian/arabian/temple level.

Or that gargoyle is giving all gothic styled levels

but the bell makes me want to go hunchback of notredame

but the masks make me want aaaaarrrgggghhhhh!!!!!1		2009-08-14 15:48:00

Author:
wexfordian
Posts: 1904

I know, after checking out all of the stuff I don't know where to start. I've always wanted to do an egyptian/arabian/temple level.

Or that gargoyle is giving all gothic styled levels

but the bell makes me want to go hunchback of notredame

but the masks make me want aaaaarrrgggghhhhh!!!!!1


The gargoyle's my favourite, I discovered you can blow him up to the size of the entire level, creating the creepiest/coolest background I've ever seen!		2009-08-14 15:52:00

Author:
CheesyMcFly
Posts: 211

I know, after checking out all of the stuff I don't know where to start. I've always wanted to do an egyptian/arabian/temple level.

Or that gargoyle is giving all gothic styled levels

but the bell makes me want to go hunchback of notredame

but the masks make me want aaaaarrrgggghhhhh!!!!!1

LOL!! ...the sound object makes me go YOOOOOOOOOORRRREEEEE !!		2009-08-14 15:54:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383

The gargoyle's my favourite, I discovered you can blow him up to the size of the entire level, creating the creepiest/coolest background I've ever seen!

ahh, nice, I havn't done much experimenting with them yet but Im sure there will be a few cool uses for these items to be found 		2009-08-14 15:54:00

Author:
wexfordian
Posts: 1904

Or that gargoyle is giving all gothic styled levels

but the bell makes me want to go hunchback of notredame
......

I had the same thought!
The gargoyle, the bell, the gothic stickers and decorations, and even some of the romans elements can create a very nice old Paris/cathedral of NotreDame level....

(You should go for that, I'm sure you can do great as usual)		2009-08-14 16:14:00

Author:
dajdaj03
Posts: 1486

You should be the one to do it dajdaj since you're from Paris and you're quite the God of stickering.

I still have to do some experiments, but I must finish my level before.		2009-08-14 16:45:00

Author:
OmegaSlayer
Posts: 5112

Picked it up last night and I'm really liking it so far. Great stickers in the gothic architecture part - the black lines with transparent background style ones are especially useful. Interesting materials too. Haven't played with the sound effects yet but so far I'm very happy with this pack. 2009-08-14 16:59:00

Author:
Morgana25
Posts: 5983

Picked it up last night and I'm really liking it so far. Great stickers in the gothic architecture part - the black lines with transparent background style ones are especially useful. Interesting materials too. Haven't played with the sound effects yet but so far I'm very happy with this pack.

The sounds?? Well they are simply YOOOOOOOOORRRRRREEEEEElicious!		2009-08-14 17:28:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383

Has no one gone for the "they aren't yore sounds, their mine!" yet?2009-08-14 17:30:00

Author:
rtm223
Posts: 6497

You should be the one to do it dajdaj since you're from Paris and you're quite the God of stickering.

That's too much but it's kind of you
Don't know, might give it a try, but I'm currently working on a new little level that I hope I will finish (I already started and gave up 3 ideas/levels..)

To go back to the thread, I really like this pack also.
It has some high quality elements (objects,decoration, sounds...).
Background and music are good also but the music is too short and not interactive

Anyway always good to have new stuff, and it surely worth the price..!		2009-08-14 17:38:00

Author:
dajdaj03
Posts: 1486

Has no one gone for the "they aren't yore sounds, their mine!" yet?

Ha! Nice one.

I've already told some one they 'Genghis Kan't'

In fact, I think it was Zwollie, who at the time was singing along to the Pink Panther theme tune (movie, not cartoon). It was quite surreal to see and hear a singing Belgian dressed as Genghis. LBP sure is diverse.

(NOTE: I still love you, Zwol. And your singing cleared up my ear infection!)

2009-08-14 18:17:00

Author:
MrsSpookyBuz
Posts: 1492

more DLC of this quality would be most welcome by me. might even email Mm to let them know!2009-08-14 18:29:00

Author:
Matt 82
Posts: 1096

Tell them to please include more interactive songs if possible while you are at it. 2009-08-14 18:36:00

Author:
Syroc
Posts: 3193

They've been working on this since before Christmas and the work has clearly paid off. I have two gripes with the pack and that is the music isn't interactive and the showcase level is very boring and unimaginative. Other than that, I love it!2009-08-14 18:43:00

Author:
Killian
Posts: 2575

Is the triple bleep bad?

Anyways, are you sharing profiles? Because I heard that other profiles takes up the same space.


triple beep is bad...it basically means there was a problem that the PS3 had to reboot itself...

and i dont share profiles....but just in case can you define that for me?


i really dont know how this is happening or the solution someone help this sucks 		2009-08-14 18:49:00

Author:
Shadowcrazy
Posts: 3365

Tell them to please include more interactive songs if possible while you are at it.

that bit will go in the letter of complaint that I send at the same time! you've no idea how gutted I was when I saw that tune in the non-interactive section. 		2009-08-14 18:50:00

Author:
Matt 82
Posts: 1096

Welp, I'm definitely making a mechanical level heavily based on the Gothic stickers and a lot of the things from the other packs. It'll be pretty.

Plus, I think the song is perfect - forget interactivity, I like it as it is.		2009-08-14 18:50:00

Author:
SLS10
Posts: 1129

Well after having the pack for almost a day now I've spent time going through eveything. Overall, I'm pleased but I do have disappointments with the pack... mainly the sound objects.

First of all, we only get thirteen new sounds... disappointing for a pack that's supposed to cover the history of the world. While they are all new sounds that don't seem to resemble anything we already have (with the exception of the caveman sound which is extremely reminiscent of the sumo yell, and the mud pit which I'll get to in a minute), they simply don't do much for me. The most original and likely the most useful ones are the clock chime, clock tick, sword draw, and the best in my opinion... the time warp sound (absolutely a great sound!). Four out of twelve... not great odds if you ask me.

The dinosaur is just another "large monster sound" that I would lump in with the plethora of large creature sounds you can already pull from the Monters, MGS, Monster Pack, ICO/Shadow of Colossus, or even the Animal (with a little pitch tweaking) sound packs. The baby dinosuar isn't bad, but I wonder why they didn't just call it squeaky window which is more what it sounds like and is undoubtedly what the main element of the sound is comprised of.

Map unfurl and match light are two of those sounds you won't likely find many uses for that other's won't use for the same purposes, unless you really think outside the box (I can only think of a few myself).

Unfortunately, the rest of the sounds are all "continuous" sounds which make them difficult to use in any level without setting them up to switches. The clock tick would be great for Survivial Challenge levels if set to speed switches in order to get the players heart racing and could really enhance the feeling of anxiety.

Marching... not much to say on this at all other than it sounds more like someone crunching a cookie over and over. Still, I can see a few uses for it but I really hate having to set these continuous sounds up to switches when it's so much easier to loop single sounds on your own and have the option to do so.

Mud pit is decent for BG noise, but would have been better suited to the Monster Pack kit... and I suspect that it might have been just left out by accident. In my opinion... it's just another bubbly type of water sound with a few extra fart bubble sounds thrown in (great for a lab environment when used with bubbly water sounds though).

Quill pen... I'm just baffled as to how this made the cut? Terribly specific scratchy sound and is horribly annoying when played in it's "loop" form. I suppose a small bug scittling across the level could benefit from this, but other than that I see little value in it.

Stamped... just another rolling rock or thunderstorm'ish sound. Certainly useful as BG noise for a large spaceship interior/exterior when used in the low pitch areas and even good for a waterfall when pitched high... but we already have sounds we can use to achieve these effects.

I think Mm needs to start up'ing the sound quality, as well as the quantity. I've worked doing sound design (yes I applied for the job but living in Canada will certainly lower my chances of being a contender where work visa's are concerned), and I personally think these sounds are generally missing the mark. It's really not that difficult to come up with better stuff given the time between pack releases. I'd jump at the chance to come up with some sounds that are more interesting and useful to this game, and would even consider working for free here and just sending them stuff and say "Here, it's free, it's usefull, and it's never been heard before in LBP.

I also think they need to make the sound packs really unique from pack to pack. This one only has two sounds that are at all similar to others we have access to... but that's two to many in my opinion.

I think we need more than thirteen sounds in a pack, and I think we need less continuous sounds and more individual ones we can loop on our own.

Other than that... great pack overall! Except for the stickers.... oooooooh I hate stickers. lolz

To wrap up I'd just like to say that this is only my opinion, both professionally and as a creator. Please don't jump all over me and try to start an argument. Friendly discussions are welcome and I'm perfectly willing to hear why people may have differing opinions... maybe you can change my mind by pointing out something I'm missing when looking at the overall picture.

Cheers!		2009-08-14 18:51:00

Author:
Rustbukkit
Posts: 1737

It's really hard to make sound effects, though. At least, I would think.

My aspirations for a new pack would probably be Music. We need more than piano sounds to make our own custom tracks!		2009-08-14 18:57:00

Author:
SLS10
Posts: 1129

You are absolutely entitled to express your opinion Rustbukkit. I haven't played with the sounds yet but your post has me thinking of a few things I might be able to use those for.2009-08-14 19:02:00

Author:
Morgana25
Posts: 5983

dont talk in caps.

There is.


freedom of speech		2009-08-14 19:03:00

Author:
Shadowcrazy
Posts: 3365

It's really hard to make sound effects, though. At least, I would think.

My aspirations for a new pack would probably be Music. We need more than piano sounds to make our own custom tracks!

You're right, it's not easy for the average person who doesn't do it for a living or think creatively where sound is concerned. I've worked on shows where we had several team members contributing to the sound department and certainly some shine where other's don't. I just figure if you have someone working in that department, they should be really good at what they do as well as very creative.

I agree with you whole heartedly on the lack of musical sounds and the ability to make our own custome tracks. A basic sound editing tool would benefit creators sooooo much.


You are absolutely entitled to express your opinion Rustbukkit. I haven't played with the sounds yet but your post has me thinking of a few things I might be able to use those for.

Thanks Morgana. Being someone who thinks musically and sonically I have lot's of ideas for many of the sounds we have access to. Unfortunately many of them don't lend themselves to the types of levels I am interested in creating. If you're ever stuck for a sound for something, feel free to message me for suggestions.... I'm always here to help. 		2009-08-14 20:03:00

Author:
Rustbukkit
Posts: 1737

Know what? I'm actually a bit deceived by this pack. I mean, it pains me how much useless stuff is packed it. I will probably use like 2 of the 4 materials, 20-something of the stickers. The only real worth in there is the background, most sounds and the 2 materials that are actually useful. I kind of feel 4$ was almost a stretch. Media Molecule are REALLY lucky i'm a dedicated creator 'cause otherwise I totally wouldn't have bought it. For some reason the Monster pack was the same type of content but generally better.

.		2009-08-15 01:13:00

Author:
RangerZero
Posts: 3901

I guess it depend on what kind of level you want to make.
Some people will find a great use for a lot of elements, others don't (or not yet)...
For me, there are too many useless stickers (140!!) I would have prefer more decorations or sounds...
and sure i'm not using half of those elements for now, but I still like it.

The problem with those creation packs is that they are maybe to specific,
they stick to much to their theme, so it's hard to use most of the elements in a completely different theme idea/level.

In the same time, there's even a lot of stuff we get in the Story mode, that nobody ever use....

For a next one, MM should think of generic stuff like a "basic LBP" pack, in which we could find for example :
- materials like new kind of cardboard, polystiren, metal...
- some stickers such as new color/gradient stickers, new alphabet letters or new character faces, eyes, mouth...
- sounds like new character voices, new natural sounds...
etc...

Some general elements that can fit in many theme ideas...

well, don't know, but I think that they do a great job anyway,
and it's hard to satisfy everyone, everytime... 		2009-08-15 02:15:00

Author:
dajdaj03
Posts: 1486

Next thing you know, someone will make a time-machine level with the history pack decor that will actually transport YOU through time by psychologically inducing a connection between you and your Sackboy using the trippy Jon Burgerman stickers!! 0iz!

LOL , I made a time machine ages ago for someone on here who was going to make a time travelling level. I sent it to them but never heard anything again. It was a pretty accurate model of the actual time machine from the old film of the same name by H.G.Wells.
I'm not sure if i still have it but if I have and anyone wants to use it just let me know.		2009-08-15 03:00:00

Author:
mistervista
Posts: 2210

I liked the Decorations, the new song, and the materials

The background doesn't really do much for me and the new sounds are just ok, I don't really care for the objects as I never use any in any of my levels (except for LED lights)

And more useless stickers that I'll never use....


Overall, I thought the Monster Pack was alot more creative, this pack was kinda average.		2009-08-15 04:29:00

Author:
TheFirstAvenger
Posts: 787

The only pure reason I probably bought this pack was because I was making a asian themed level

I acturally thought the stickers were well done this time, since it wasn't all just parts of monsters or faces of random things. It was nice how the building stickers how they were seperated into parts so you can make your own buildings.
The objects were very nice too since it wasn't just scenic but you were able to interacate with it in your level as well. Like the Chinese Bell and the Gargoyle Platform.

The only downside that probably isn't related to the creators but for a player i would of loved to see so more effort in the gallery level. The monster pack gallery level was fun because it had some little mini games in the middle, but the History Pack gallery level was just running -> that way. And maybe 2 platforming puzzles. I was really looking forward for the gallery level for some reason... probably because it's a level made by MM....		2009-08-15 06:23:00

Author:
snowyjoe
Posts: 509

Bought it! Liked it! Level I'm currently working on will use it!

Thanks!

Rick!
!		2009-08-16 02:26:00

Author:
RickRock_777
Posts: 1567

I LOVE this pack!
Probably better than the Monster pack, too...
I don't know what you guys are thinking, but the 140 stickers are totally worth it. Especially the architectural ones. The gothic stickers are probably my favorite.
The objects are pretty cool, I really like the large vase and Egyptian head. The gargoyle is great, but I think someone said this already but, it takes up waaay too much thermo space for my liking.
The background is meh. It's pretty much the same as the MGS middle-eastern one, but it still works I guess.
The sounds are alright, but if you want to hear more about those go read Rustbukkit's rant lol. I pretty much feel the same.
The music is one of my favorites in LBP even though it's not interactive. 'Nuff said.
The gallery level was really boring. I expected a bit more from Mm, but this didn't really cut it for me.		2009-08-16 03:12:00

Author:
Sack-Jake
Posts: 1153

I think I would have bought this pack soon after it was released in the store, but I was on holiday and only just came back today. I'll buy it later though. It looks pretty neat.2009-08-16 14:06:00

Author:
lk9988
Posts: 1077

I can't believe I just wasted 4 bucks on this...So disappointing2009-08-17 05:01:00

Author:
ApellesJr
Posts: 282

I guess it depend on what kind of level you want to make.
Some people will find a great use for a lot of elements, others don't (or not yet)...
For me, there are too many useless stickers (140!!) I would have prefer more decorations or sounds...
and sure i'm not using half of those elements for now, but I still like it.

The problem with those creation packs is that they are maybe to specific,
they stick to much to their theme, so it's hard to use most of the elements in a completely different theme idea/level.

In the same time, there's even a lot of stuff we get in the Story mode, that nobody ever use....

For a next one, MM should think of generic stuff like a "basic LBP" pack, in which we could find for example :
- materials like new kind of cardboard, polystiren, metal...
- some stickers such as new color/gradient stickers, new alphabet letters or new character faces, eyes, mouth...
- sounds like new character voices, new natural sounds...
etc...

Some general elements that can fit in many theme ideas...

well, don't know, but I think that they do a great job anyway,
and it's hard to satisfy everyone, everytime...

wow man, I couldn't agree more! Basically the monster pack is mostly only useful for monster levels, And mm seemed to try to fix that by improving the variety of the different cultures in the history pack, which helped a lot, but still not as good as a pack like the one you're talking about would be. What we need is an all-purpose pack. I personally like cretor pack one a lot nore than the monster or history packs :S		2009-08-17 09:02:00

Author:
Incinerator22
Posts: 3251

Yeah, I'd love a pack like that! Mostly for the letter stickers. The ones we have now are so... circus-y (Is that even a word?). 2009-08-17 11:11:00

Author:
resistance1
Posts: 812

Yeah, I'd love a pack like that! Mostly for the letter stickers. The ones we have now are so... circus-y (Is that even a word?).

Totally agree , another word for the letters and numbers would be 'CRAP'. I can't believe they still haven't given us some good , normal looking ones. That would be so easy for them and would probably only take a couple of minutes. Come on Mm.

To ApellesJr : If you'd played the level I told you about earlier in the thread you could have seen everything in the pack before buying so wouldn't have wasted any money. That's what I put it up there for.		2009-08-17 12:29:00

Author:
mistervista
Posts: 2210

If you are that bothered about having new letters then there are plenty of places in the community you can find them for free. Also, a lot of really cool fonts are very geometric, so can be constructed out of the object primitives easilly, even if you're not that hot on the artistic side. I've made two fonts myself, and it is so much easier creating custom signage when you have letter objects to sticker up and photograph than just slapping down the MM stickers and trying to align them well.

My biggest gripe with the packs is the quantity of stickers. I just don't want most of them.

@Rustbukkit. I just want a sound pack. Upping the customisation of all sound in the game as well as adding new sounds.		2009-08-17 13:10:00

Author:
rtm223
Posts: 6497

To ApellesJr : If you'd played the level I told you about earlier in the thread you could have seen everything in the pack before buying so wouldn't have wasted any money. That's what I put it up there for.

Welllllllll.....*sigh* :blush:		2009-08-17 21:36:00

Author:
ApellesJr
Posts: 282

I got the pack, and it's actually better then I thought it would be! Sure, the level isn't as good as I hoped, and the sound effects are not very good in my opinion, but the other stuff is excellent! The stickers are brilliant for making buildings, the decorations are great, and the song is awesome! It's just too bad it isn't interactive.

Still, I'd say the pack's worth buying!		2009-08-18 20:17:00

Author:
lk9988
Posts: 1077

yay! woohoo!

In my humble opinion:

It's about freaking time Ada Lovelace got her own character in a video game!		2009-08-21 18:59:00

Author:
swanbrown
Posts: 898

yay! woohoo!

In my humble opinion:

It's about freaking time Ada Lovelace got her own character in a video game!

You know, I've always said Ada Lovelace would make a natural platformer star. I've always said it. Ever since I was little and first played Super Mario Bros, I've said "mother, dear. Shall they make a game of this nature with miss Ada Lovelace in the starring role? Oh DO say they shall!"

I'm just saying, I was right all along.

I'm just saying.		2009-08-21 21:08:00

Author:
Teebonesy
Posts: 1937


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