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New indie game - LBP ripoff?

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http://www.indiegameblog.net/2009/08/08/dbp-09-magnetic-mind/

Just look at this news and discuss.
I see quite a rip off.
2009-08-08 21:44:00

Author:
OmegaSlayer
Posts: 5112


Sorry, I don't mean to speak like a fanboy, but this looks crap...And is a complete rip-off. If you're going to make a game, at least make it good enough to compete...2009-08-08 21:47:00

Author:
KoRnDawwg
Posts: 1424


WOW thats...thats... are they serious? it lookes like they threw lbp into a blender and tried to glue it back together2009-08-08 21:49:00

Author:
redmagus
Posts: 667


Microsoft rip off everything but seriously there's no competition they're absolutely terrible at making games.
The game in that video is a good example, it looks terrible.

Although they do give their games a ridiculous amount of hype. Not one of their games are worth playing but they still have fanboys worshiping them.
2009-08-08 21:52:00

Author:
Dexiro
Posts: 2100


Edit: For those coming from N4G this is an Indie Game coming from a small development team. Microsoft has nothing to do with it.

I still don't like it though...
2009-08-08 21:59:00

Author:
Leather-Monkey
Posts: 2266


OMG!!! WTH IS DAT!!!! MICROSOFT ARE JUST COPYING PS3'S IDEAS!!! FOR EXAMPLE... THAT GARDEN LEVEL WAS THE EXACT SAME AS THE LBP GARDENS BACKGROUND!!!! 2009-08-08 22:43:00

Author:
AliBoy1
Posts: 142


It's obvious they are just jealous now, like how they put music used in LBP in an advert. This is a complete rip-off but won't ever be as good as LBP.2009-08-08 22:53:00

Author:
S-A-S--G-U-N-R
Posts: 1606


Didn't see any create features so it's a pretty meh platformer; also I doubt Micro is ever going to make a LBP on their own since they know their market is shooter nuts.2009-08-08 22:53:00

Author:
Shermzor
Posts: 1330


OMG!!! WTH IS DAT!!!! MICROSOFT ARE JUST COPYING PS3'S IDEAS!!! FOR EXAMPLE... THAT GARDEN LEVEL WAS THE EXACT SAME AS THE LBP GARDENS BACKGROUND!!!!

Edit: For those coming from N4G this is an Indie Game coming from a small development team. Microsoft has nothing to do with it.

You really need to read these things.
2009-08-08 23:39:00

Author:
Arkei
Posts: 1432


Apart from the obvious with the first half being a massive copy of lbp the second part looked like the generic platformer **** that mostly died out years ago.2009-08-09 01:34:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


There's nothing I hate more...
FanBoys

I don't really have that much against Microsoft, but this (the game...) just goes too far...






And the water effects suck! D:
2009-08-09 04:14:00

Author:
crazymario
Posts: 657


^^ More like glitched material effect, if you ask me.

Although Microsoft (and it's various slaves that it owns) can collaborate and concure on Project "The Next Big Thing SUPER-UBER-BETTERTHANLBP", it can't beat an original. Hence why Rockstar is making a "full-game" exclusive for Sony compared to the DLC-exclusive in GTAIV on the 360.

Besides, they have so many shooter franchises that they don't need to worry about a wee, little platformer stealing the spotlight.
2009-08-09 04:27:00

Author:
Outlaw-Jack
Posts: 5757


Microsoft should just stay making their OS.

This is what I always say:

I should not hate Microsoft cause Microsoft owns Apple, but I hate Microsoft cause it's from XBOX and I like PS3 better.
2009-08-09 04:40:00

Author:
Unknown User


It is indeed a generic shrunken down platformer. There is no illusion to a "create" mode whatsoever. It's just unfortunate that they are starting their outside to inside small adventure in a "garden". Maybe if they called it a backyard, but I don't know how well that word translates internationally.

It does look kind of... well, boring I guess. Too much focus on the visual look of objects, and too much simplicity with the objects and how they interact.

Ah well, the platformer genre is one of the new blacks. It's inevitable that someone else will make up something that uses the small viewpoint of the normal world thing like LBP does. It's just it's a shame that it's a X-box 360 indie thing. Too many people will compare it to LBP rather than think of it independently and judge it by it's own merits.

By the way... that magnetic ring thing... man, all he needed was a lasso line and he would be set. :eek:
2009-08-09 10:13:00

Author:
Elbee23
Posts: 1280


It is indeed a generic shrunken down platformer. There is no illusion to a "create" mode whatsoever. It's just unfortunate that they are starting their outside to inside small adventure in a "garden". Maybe if they called it a backyard, but I don't know how well that word translates internationally.



It wouldn't be a problem if their design for the garden wasnt 80%+ the same as the one in lbp. Gardens are a fairly common thing but its rare to see two so similar.
2009-08-09 11:05:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


There's nothing I hate more...
FanBoys

Rep!

So this is merely a small development team? Not Microsoft? Well, it still sucks
2009-08-09 11:14:00

Author:
KoRnDawwg
Posts: 1424


Well, looking at it again, I can see many differences to LBP. The size of the posts are different, there are wind generator turbines in the background... it's just the mechanics and scale, and the whole skateboarding down a ramp thing that brings back echoes of LBP.

I'm guessing they mapped out a journey from a plot/gameplay point of view, with the players starting outside the house in "the garden" and then needing to go inside to continue, while progressing through several rooms with different game play elements. The latter indoor room had a whole lot of rotating 3-D effects from a view point perspective that made it very different to LBP, but I'm guessing the garden is meant to be a "tutorial" level and so they kept it relatively flat and side on, and therefore similar to LBP.

Still though, the big question I have is... how does a "magnetic ring" pick up a... sponge?
2009-08-09 11:35:00

Author:
Elbee23
Posts: 1280


The gardens? Skateboard like LBP? Similar looking fruit? same jump things like pistons? FAIL.

FAIIIIIIL
2009-08-09 23:11:00

Author:
Adam9001
Posts: 744


the difference
-more layers
-dumb character
-walks slower

the rest is the same :/
i say only on thing now

indie game i say to you ''Come On!''
2009-08-09 23:26:00

Author:
Unknown User


I like how the developer boasts "photorealistic graphics"

I think they look terrible
2009-08-09 23:48:00

Author:
Dexiro
Posts: 2100


I like how the developer boasts "photorealistic graphics"

I think they look terrible

Well you have to remember, it is an indi game these arent multi-million dollar pros. Almost every good band started out doing covers this is sort of the same thing. In a way it is a bit flattering or it would be if it had an "inspired by lbp" section. I still dont like it but these people did do the work and programing even if it was unoriginal and uninspired.
2009-08-10 00:46:00

Author:
redmagus
Posts: 667


i say only on thing now

microsoft i say to you ''Come On!''

This is not being developed by microsoft it is an indie game made by 2 or 3 people using microsofts free xna development tools.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_XNA

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-gb/xna/default.aspx
2009-08-10 10:54:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


This is not being developed by microsoft it is an indie game made by 2 or 3 people using microsofts free xna development tools.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_XNA

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-gb/xna/default.aspx

i fixed it
2009-08-10 11:22:00

Author:
Unknown User


Part of me hopes that this is just a joke - there are so many parallels between this demo video and LBP, it's hard to believe that anyone could be stupid enough to attempt to pass this off as a legitimate creative attempt.

Side note: I'm changing the title of this thread. This has nothing to do with Microsoft aside from the fact that an independent team used the XNA Game Studio to develop the game. That's like blaming Media Molecule because a group of gamers used LittleBigPlanet to make a Super Mario ripoff.
2009-08-10 11:30:00

Author:
ConfusedCartman
Posts: 3729


It is indeed a generic shrunken down platformer. There is no illusion to a "create" mode whatsoever. It's just unfortunate that they are starting their outside to inside small adventure in a "garden". Maybe if they called it a backyard, but I don't know how well that word translates internationally.

It does look kind of... well, boring I guess. Too much focus on the visual look of objects, and too much simplicity with the objects and how they interact.

Ah well, the platformer genre is one of the new blacks. It's inevitable that someone else will make up something that uses the small viewpoint of the normal world thing like LBP does. It's just it's a shame that it's a X-box 360 indie thing. Too many people will compare it to LBP rather than think of it independently and judge it by it's own merits.

By the way... that magnetic ring thing... man, all he needed was a lasso line and he would be set. :eek:


I gotta agree with alot of that.


This does look kinda boring.

It's just....... SLOW, is what it is. Everything moves really SLOW. Most good platformers..... well, they move faster than a slug, they do.
2009-08-10 11:47:00

Author:
Bridget
Posts: 334


From the coments on the original article:


Oliver Schulze says:
August 8, 2009 at 8:05 pm

Hi,

I am the main developer of Magnetic Mind, and I feel, I have to make some comments on that game:

First: this game is not from Microsoft and we are not related to them! And Magnetic Mind is not thought to be a rip-off of LBP and it is not thought to be a game, that should show, that a LBP is possible on a XBox.

We are 3 hobbyists, that just wanted to make a funny game for the XBox (made possible with the Indie-Game-Channel on XBox Live). We made this besides our normal work in the evenings. So it is just a hobby and has no commercial background. The competition Dream Build Play from Microsoft is a great way, to compete with other Indie-Game-Developers.

To the game: Magnetic Mind is a little bit inspired by Little Big Planet, that?s right. The idea grew as follows: We wanted to make a 3D ? sidescrolling Jump and Run game with great graphics. Someday we saw a video of LBP and were very impressed by its style and visuals. So we used some of its elements in our game: The depth of field for example and the camera positioning. The idea, to make a guy, that finds itself in a large world, was born before we meet LBP.

But the gameplay and story itself differs very much from LBP. We tried to make an environment, that is very close to reallity as you can see in the kitchen-Level.

Conclusion: Magnetic Mind does not want to be a clone of LBP it is only inspired by it. And of course LBP is much more than Magnetic Mind, please keep in mind, that we are 3 guys, that are working on the game in the evenings and that we do this as a hobby.

We never had thought, that Magnetic Mind would start such a flame-war (this article here is not the only one where such discussions have arrised!!).

Many greetings

the developers of Magnetic Mind

Also an interview. http://www.indiegameblog.net/2009/08/09/developer-interview-oliver-schulze-magnetic-mind/
2009-08-10 11:50:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


Part of me hopes that this is just a joke - there are so many parallels between this demo video and LBP, it's hard to believe that anyone could be stupid enough to attempt to pass this off as a legitimate creative attempt.

Side note: I'm changing the title of this thread. This has nothing to do with Microsoft aside from the fact that an independent team used the XNA Game Studio to develop the game. That's like blaming Media Molecule because a group of gamers used LittleBigPlanet to make a Super Mario ripoff.

Oh yes, and even the song for their spot is a coincidence.
It's always the same Microsoft that once again thinks we all are dumb and idiots.

And regarding the interview...
Even if they had their ideas 500 eons before MM they have not released it yet.
I would be ashamed and embarassed and would hide in a cave to release such a rip off.
And I would be ashamed even if I were Ballmer.
Do you think that they would release this game on PS3 since there's already LBP?
MM is innovation, is what this business is (should) be about, and if Indie devs aren't innovative anymore I see a very dark period for gaming.
Creators around here are really more innovative that those indie devs.
Then the Dream Build Play program...instead of Play Create Share
So many things are wrong here and that interview, for me is only damage control.

And it's another point down for Microsoft, they're scratching the bottom of the barrel.
2009-08-10 13:59:00

Author:
OmegaSlayer
Posts: 5112


Most of that could be written off as coincidence, but the background was almost identical, albeit with much lower graphic fidelity. Also, the skateboard had me baffled, that was like the signature of LittleBigPlanet before it's release. I stopped watching there, because it was just such a bad-looking and uninteresting game. I'm not saying that just because I own LittleBigPlanet either, I don't know many people who would buy that in it's current state.2009-08-10 14:14:00

Author:
BSprague
Posts: 2325


Microsoft has nothing to do with it. Its going to be sold in the indie games section of the marketplace and just to keep you guys happy level creation would be impossible because to post on the XBLM the game needs to be smaller than 500MB in size.2009-08-10 15:31:00

Author:
robotiod
Posts: 2662


Wow some people really do have an irrational hatred of Microsoft. As has been repeated many times over MICROSOFT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS GAME! It's 2 guys making a game using Microsoft's XNA developer tool set.

People seem really angry that Microsoft used The Go! Team track in one of their commercials but how many of you remember the PS3 add campaign that used shots of PGR3 and claimed them as Gran Turismo?

Fanboys lighten up please. mmkay?
2009-08-10 16:14:00

Author:
Sosaku
Posts: 146


WOW thats...thats... are they serious? it lookes like they threw lbp into a blender and tried to glue it back together
I agree!
2009-08-10 16:19:00

Author:
tjb0607
Posts: 1054


Well you have to remember, it is an indi game these arent multi-million dollar pros.

I know, graphics don't bother me but they're claiming that the graphics are or are close to being photorealistic
2009-08-10 16:33:00

Author:
Dexiro
Posts: 2100


I know, graphics don't bother me but they're claiming that the graphics are or are close to being photorealistic

Photorealistic is a relative term the graphics are clearly no where near dslr quality but they are up to the standard of a cheap camera phone.
2009-08-10 18:40:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


that actually looks quite fun.

inb4 fanboys
2009-08-10 18:52:00

Author:
oldage
Posts: 2824


Only the first part looks like a rip-off of LBP in the garden. Other than that it just looks like a platformer of a small guy in a big world. Might be fun, very hard to tell without playing it.2009-08-10 19:08:00

Author:
Walter-Kovacs
Posts: 542


i think this wil be like a psn game that you can buy forr 5 dollars2009-08-10 19:19:00

Author:
Unknown User


When I saw the skateboard I LAUGHED! Too funny. INDIE RAMP NEXT!!2009-08-10 19:26:00

Author:
BasketSnake
Posts: 2391


I understand it being inspired by lbp, but to completely what seems like, COPY the game to the point of the skateboard and "garden" level, is just plain ridiculous.

If someone actually used their head, this game was made using XNA, It could get published on Live Arcade.
2009-08-10 20:08:00

Author:
Jack
Posts: 999


When I saw the skateboard I LAUGHED! Too funny. INDIE RAMP NEXT!!

I LOL-ED so hard at that!
2009-08-10 20:25:00

Author:
resistance1
Posts: 812


i think this wil be like a psn game that you can buy forr 5 dollars

It's being made using XNA, the basic development tool for making Xbox 360 games. So no, you won't see it as a PSN game.
2009-08-10 20:52:00

Author:
BSprague
Posts: 2325


It's being made using XNA, the basic development tool for making Xbox 360 games. So no, you won't see it as a PSN game.

i believe he meant comparable in quality to a 5 dollar psn game, not that it would actually be availible via psn
2009-08-11 02:20:00

Author:
redmagus
Posts: 667


So it's got a few similarities to LBP, big whoop. It's going to be terrible and it doesn't have nearly as many features.2009-08-11 03:22:00

Author:
Arkei
Posts: 1432


1. They were inspired, not ripped.
2. Graphics are okay, gameplay is the matter.
3. Microsoft has nothing to do with it, like the website said.
4. It's in 3D, not in 2D.
5. Magnetic Mind = Popit Cursor

I just pretty like the 3D part here, except in LittleBigPlanet; 3 layers.
2009-08-11 03:28:00

Author:
Unknown User


That game looks absolutely horrible.2009-08-11 06:17:00

Author:
TheMarvelousHat
Posts: 542


Looks boring to me to be honest...2009-08-11 06:55:00

Author:
Ryutei
Posts: 244


Looks boring to me to be honest...

agreeeeeed
2009-08-11 09:56:00

Author:
Unknown User


look no point getting worked up about it. Even if you own an xbox you aaren't going to buy this game because games that are just platformers dont sell on anything other than the WII.2009-08-11 10:05:00

Author:
robotiod
Posts: 2662


look no point getting worked up about it. Even if you own an xbox you aaren't going to buy this game because games that are just platformers dont sell on anything other than the WII.

I like platformers....me want more!
2009-08-11 18:06:00

Author:
Walter-Kovacs
Posts: 542


The Garden section is the exact same thing from LBP but crappier. MM should sue. 2009-08-11 18:16:00

Author:
qrtda235566
Posts: 3664


Nah, I think they might be flattered that some indie company tried to copy them.2009-08-12 02:10:00

Author:
Arkei
Posts: 1432


Alright guys, once again I'm left feeling a little disappointed in the posts here. I want to bring a few points up, whether you agree with them or not is your choice.

When the first 3D Mario platformer was made, were all future platformers - many of which had very similar styles - rip-offs? Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. The fact that this game exists shows that LBP has started a new genre of platforming, which, frankly is quite intriguing.
Magnetic Mind, with their quaint 3-person group, is expanding on ideas they've seen, and trying to create their own small experience out of it. Is there anything so wrong with that?

Magnetic Mind is also clearly aware that they're game is a humble piece of work, stating in the interview that they don't even think they'll win but they hope for top ten in the XNA contest thingy.

From the video I agree it didn't look so great, but hey - it's an indie game, and it's a great effort either way!

This game was picked on by the media and plopped into a bunch of sites in which people starting flaming it without any understanding of what it was. There are tons and tons of Indie Games, and this is just one of them. I'm guessing this is better than a lot of them! The reason it's gotten so much flack is because it was picked on and brought out into the open.


I think it doesn't look like such a good game, but great for them giving game-making a try, and I hope they do well.
2009-08-12 03:32:00

Author:
hilightnotes
Posts: 1230


Hi,

I am the main developer of Magnetic Mind, and I feel, I have to make some comments on that game:

First: this game is not from Microsoft and we are not related to them! And Magnetic Mind is not thought to be a rip-off of LBP and it is not thought to be a game, that should show, that a LBP is possible on a XBox.

We are 3 hobbyists, that just wanted to make a funny game for the XBox (made possible with the Indie-Game-Channel on XBox Live). We made this besides our normal work in the evenings. So it is just a hobby and has no commercial background. The competition Dream Build Play from Microsoft is a great way, to compete with other Indie-Game-Developers.

To the game: Magnetic Mind is a little bit inspired by Little Big Planet, that?s right. The idea grew as follows: We wanted to make a 3D ? sidescrolling Jump and Run game with great graphics. Someday we saw a video of LBP and were very impressed by its style and visuals. So we used some of its elements in our game: The depth of field for example and the camera positioning. The idea, to make a guy, that finds itself in a large world, was born before we meet LBP.

But the gameplay and story itself differs very much from LBP. We tried to make an environment, that is very close to reallity as you can see in the kitchen-Level.

Conclusion: Magnetic Mind does not want to be a clone of LBP it is only inspired by it. And of course LBP is much more than Magnetic Mind, please keep in mind, that we are 3 guys, that are working on the game in the evenings and that we do this as a hobby.

We never had thought, that Magnetic Mind would start such a flame-war (this article here is not the only one where such discussions have arrised!!).

Many greetings

the developers of Magnetic Mind

This was posted in the comments section following all of the flame/fanboy posts.
2009-08-12 13:05:00

Author:
BSprague
Posts: 2325


i also agree that its not a rip off, but only inspired

if it were a rip off that would mean any game within a genre that isnt the original is a rip off and should be sued...what by that logic it should be....so if you were really think its a rip off go play maze war, its the first first person shooter at least its the original

although i do see a clone when it comes along and this isnt much of one, theres no creating of levels. it looks like a 3d platformer with a camera in the air and you use a ring to move things....not much like little big planet. its a platformer, of course there are going to similarities...its the same freaking genre

its not a rip off just a little attempt at a game that was inspired by it...games HAVE to be inspired by others or where would any ideas be to make new games? without inspirations (from anywhere, other games, films, elements of life and so on) thered be no games anymore as no ideas are coming about...think about that, if games kept getting sued because they share elements then gaming would die
2009-08-12 13:28:00

Author:
Xegethra
Posts: 207


if games kept getting sued because they share elements then gaming would die

We aren't talking about two games of the same genre that can't exist together. For example, just because Halo is a first-person shooter doesn't mean that no one else is allowed to make first-person shooters. If someone made a first-person shooter with Forge and Theater modes, then it would be a different story. That's what I'm feeling with this. We aren't just talking about two platformers here, even the fact that they are little characters in a big world could just be coincidence. We are talking about copies, not shared ideas.

They don't necessarily share elements, but literal things. Having a small character run around a 3D (2.5D for some people) environment isn't what people are angry about. It's basically the signature of LittleBigPlanet that is being copied. The level is called "The Garden", it's one letter away from being identical to LittleBigPlanet. That would be fine if only the names were similar, but the scenery is almost the same. The floor, grass in the background, fences, its all the same or very close. The skateboard is another thing identifiable with LittleBigPlanet as well.
2009-08-12 15:01:00

Author:
BSprague
Posts: 2325


They don't necessarily share elements, but literal things. Having a small character run around a 3D (2.5D for some people) environment isn't what people are angry about. It's basically the signature of LittleBigPlanet that is being copied. The level is called "The Garden", it's one letter away from being identical to LittleBigPlanet. That would be fine if only the names were similar, but the scenery is almost the same. The floor, grass in the background, fences, its all the same or very close. The skateboard is another thing identifiable with LittleBigPlanet as well.

This is a really silly thing to bother analyzing. It's just a small character who goes through a bunch of scenes. Having one of them be the garden is only natural, and there is a reason they both have a skateboard. It's one of the few objects you would find in a garden that works well and is really simple as an interactive part of the level.
2009-08-12 22:16:00

Author:
Walter-Kovacs
Posts: 542


yeah, gardens....a lot of them are the same anyway. same flooring, same styles, same type of plants. of course gardens vary A LOT its just this new game went with a recognisable template, as did little big planet...if you ask me even they look like the army man games to a certain extent (small people, gardens)....they just went with a common garden look

everything else, is just a platformer. the kitcen for instance isnt little big planety. and gameplay will be similar, except now you can move in fully 3d directions. theres no create mode just your stuck with the levels....and i dont even see a character customisation either. its a just a straight forward, jump over this and your done game...

the games are totally different
2009-08-13 14:37:00

Author:
Xegethra
Posts: 207


lol. So what? You are calling people on here fanboys (which many are not, personally i like 360 and PS3) and this means you are clearly not a fanboy yourself? Surely someone coming to a site and posting this **** clearly means they are themselves a fanboy of somthing else?

Now go **** off *reported*
2009-10-04 20:04:00

Author:
Unknown User


lol. So what? You are calling people on here fanboys (which many are not, personally i like 360 and PS3) and this means you are clearly not a fanboy yourself? Surely someone coming to a site and posting this **** clearly means they are themselves a fanboy of somthing else?

Now go **** off *reported*

I wouldn't get too worried about him. Fanboyism is probably one of the most pointless ideals to hold, and he'll be gone soon enough anyway.
2009-10-04 20:08:00

Author:
BSprague
Posts: 2325


This guy just failed so hard...

EDIT: Hah, now it looks like IMF spammed
2009-10-04 20:08:00

Author:
ARD
Posts: 4291


D: NO!

Well, maybe i did, who can tell?
2009-10-04 20:10:00

Author:
Unknown User


Read this message
This message is from the developer of this game

Oliver Schulze says:
August 8, 2009 at 8:05 pm

Hi,

I am the main developer of Magnetic Mind, and I feel, I have to make some comments on that game:

First: this game is not from Microsoft and we are not related to them! And Magnetic Mind is not thought to be a rip-off of LBP and it is not thought to be a game, that should show, that a LBP is possible on a XBox.

We are 3 hobbyists, that just wanted to make a funny game for the XBox (made possible with the Indie-Game-Channel on XBox Live). We made this besides our normal work in the evenings. So it is just a hobby and has no commercial background. The competition Dream Build Play from Microsoft is a great way, to compete with other Indie-Game-Developers.

To the game: Magnetic Mind is a little bit inspired by Little Big Planet, that?s right. The idea grew as follows: We wanted to make a 3D ? sidescrolling Jump and Run game with great graphics. Someday we saw a video of LBP and were very impressed by its style and visuals. So we used some of its elements in our game: The depth of field for example and the camera positioning. The idea, to make a guy, that finds itself in a large world, was born before we meet LBP.

But the gameplay and story itself differs very much from LBP. We tried to make an environment, that is very close to reallity as you can see in the kitchen-Level.

Conclusion: Magnetic Mind does not want to be a clone of LBP it is only inspired by it. And of course LBP is much more than Magnetic Mind, please keep in mind, that we are 3 guys, that are working on the game in the evenings and that we do this as a hobby.

We never had thought, that Magnetic Mind would start such a flame-war (this article here is not the only one where such discussions have arrised!!).

Many greetings

the developers of Magnetic Mind

The developer is trying to make a LBP for XBOX 360!!
2009-10-04 21:18:00

Author:
ViniciusBR11
Posts: 546


Read this message
This message is from the developer of this game


The developer is trying to make a LBP for XBOX 360!!

no, just no. read what they actually say and dont just assume things.
2009-10-04 21:39:00

Author:
redmagus
Posts: 667


It borrows a bit of it's style from LBP and they admit as much... but that's it.

It is absolutely nothing like LBP. Do you see anything about customization? Buildable worlds? Multiplayer?

I can really appreciate what they've done since it's a hobby of mine too. But other than that... it looks a little boring so far.
2009-10-04 22:12:00

Author:
Foofles
Posts: 2278


I wouldn't call this a rip off but there is definetely an influence. First off, besides being a platformer,there doesn't seem to be a creation aspect and the game isn't played in 2D like LBP. You can walk in 4 direction, it's just that the camera doesn't seem to turn.

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2009-10-04 22:16:00

Author:
RangerZero
Posts: 3901


The developer is trying to make a LBP for XBOX 360!!

The developer is trying to make a game inspired by LBP, similar slightly in the theme that has a small character in a big world.

They liked LBP so they wanted a similar sort of game for the XBox 360.
2009-10-04 22:20:00

Author:
S-A-S--G-U-N-R
Posts: 1606


Personally i would love LBP on the 360.

In my opinion, even if you hate the 360, surely this is a good sign? I like games like this style, and the more the better. if each one can help improve on the idea, then let's ahve 'em!
2009-10-04 22:35:00

Author:
Unknown User


He was INSPIRED by LBP. But he was inspired TO MUCH and ended up copying the first level.

It's obvious really. The level in it is called," The Garden". The level in LBP is called," The Gardens".

The Garden
The Gardens

Coincidence?
2009-10-05 03:23:00

Author:
CyberSora
Posts: 5551


Well, it may greatly resemble LBP, but I doubt it'll be as awesome or as fun as LBP, because...it just doesn't really look as fun. Also...I mean c'mon, a tiny human or a sackboy =O?2009-10-05 03:51:00

Author:
Unknown User


He was INSPIRED by LBP. But he was inspired TO MUCH and ended up copying the first level.

It's obvious really. The level in it is called," The Garden". The level in LBP is called," The Gardens".

The Garden
The Gardens

Coincidence?

true, but like the man said, the game is inspired by lbp, and if you looked through other material on the subject the "garden" area is the only part that ive seen that immensly resembles lbp. for what ive seen they procede to go through a kitchen and a house. So a garden while similar to lbp, is also just the logical area to have.
2009-10-05 03:55:00

Author:
redmagus
Posts: 667


seems like a bit of a rip but not a complete one so it's fine i guess

the creator did a good job with the game

(programming and stuff not the idea though)
2009-10-05 04:06:00

Author:
rseah
Posts: 2701


The first main level of Scribblenauts is called "The Gardens" (or "The Garden", I traded the game so I can't check), just like LBP.

It's also a 2D platformer as well, just like LBP.

The idea is that you are creative and can let your imagination run wild, just like LBP.

It even has a level editor where you can create your own level and share them with friends, just like LBP.

It's a clone! Lawsuits! Lawsuits! :eek:

...

Do you see what I did there?
2009-10-05 12:47:00

Author:
Elbee23
Posts: 1280


Wow I just, read that, message from the, developer at Magnetic, Mind. Does he, not, understand how to use, commas? [/sarcasm]

Seriously, though. You can deny it all you want, but they are straight up trying to ride off of MM's success. They have even chosen the name Magnetic Mind to share the same initials as MM (whether intentional or not).
2009-10-05 12:57:00

Author:
comphermc
Posts: 5338


Wow I just, read that, message from the, developer at Magnetic, Mind. Does he, not, understand how to use, commas? [/sarcasm]

Seriously, though. You can deny it all you want, but they are straight up trying to ride off of MM's success. They have even chosen the name Magnetic Mind to share the same initials as MM (whether intentional or not).

haha true, but everyone tries to ride off the success of others. I mean isnt that how the bomb survival thing got started? And how you sometimes see "tributes" *cough*copies*cough* to(of) really succesfull levels.


The first main level of Scribblenauts is called "The Gardens" (or "The Garden", I traded the game so I can't check), just like LBP.

It's also a 2D platformer as well, just like LBP.

The idea is that you are creative and can let your imagination run wild, just like LBP.

It even has a level editor where you can create your own level and share them with friends, just like LBP.

It's a clone! Lawsuits! Lawsuits! :eek:

...

Do you see what I did there?

i see what you did thar
2009-10-05 14:51:00

Author:
redmagus
Posts: 667


Read this message
This message is from the developer of this game


The developer is trying to make a LBP for XBOX 360!!

BSprague posted that like 2 months ago...
2009-10-05 17:26:00

Author:
ARD
Posts: 4291


The first main level of Scribblenauts is called "The Gardens" (or "The Garden", I traded the game so I can't check), just like LBP.

It's also a 2D platformer as well, just like LBP.

The idea is that you are creative and can let your imagination run wild, just like LBP.

It even has a level editor where you can create your own level and share them with friends, just like LBP.

It's a clone! Lawsuits! Lawsuits! :eek:

...

Do you see what I did there?

Om. I c wut u did thar.
2009-10-05 17:29:00

Author:
Unknown User


Lol at that post by the magnetic-mind creator, its just inspired by it.. jezus you have to be blind not to see it's a cheap littlebigplanet rip-off..2009-10-11 16:20:00

Author:
Kn0cked-0ut
Posts: 562


Wow, at first when I read all the text it didn't sound like a rip-off, but when I watched the video after reading, that's when I insantly thought rip-off.2009-10-11 16:56:00

Author:
Unknown User


Snap!!! Im selling my copy of LBP and gettin in on some of dat!2009-10-11 17:45:00

Author:
rz22g
Posts: 340


Wow, this is plagiarism to the point of hilarity! XD2009-10-11 17:50:00

Author:
Mr_T-Shirt
Posts: 1477


I can't belive XBox is copying Sony... again. 2009-10-12 01:36:00

Author:
CyberSora
Posts: 5551


I can't belive XBox is copying Sony... again.
You have to be careful with the way you word things. This is an independent game developer. In no way are they associated with Microsoft. Microsoft didn't hire a team to create a LittleBigPlanet-esque game on Xbox 360.
2009-10-13 01:52:00

Author:
BSprague
Posts: 2325


Lol EPIC FAIL. That game looks horrible.2009-10-13 03:46:00

Author:
UncreativeUserName
Posts: 107


Lol EPIC FAIL. That game looks horrible.

and with that this thread should be done honestly what do you guys want from them? There an INDIE developer! Not a pro multimillion dollar corporation, its three guys doing it in there spare time. They said it was inspired by lbp and thats all i see, not a ripoff. Sure they're probably trying to play off its popularity for sales but thats the business. Lbp wasnt the first game to have little characters and no ones calling it a ripoff and honestly thats pretty much the only similarity between the two except for the garden, but even thats different.
2009-10-13 16:50:00

Author:
redmagus
Posts: 667


Lol at that post by the magnetic-mind creator, its just inspired by it.. jezus you have to be blind not to see it's a cheap littlebigplanet rip-off..

Wow, at first when I read all the text it didn't sound like a rip-off, but when I watched the video after reading, that's when I insantly thought rip-off.

Wow, this is plagiarism to the point of hilarity! XD

I can't belive XBox is copying Sony... again.
Great job not reading the entire topic.

Why does everyone assume that everything on the 360 is developed by Microsoft?
2009-10-13 17:31:00

Author:
Arkei
Posts: 1432


Great job not reading the entire topic.

Why does everyone assume that everything on the 360 is developed by Microsoft?

Great job on not reading the entire topic yourself...


You have to be careful with the way you word things. This is an independent game developer. In no way are they associated with Microsoft. Microsoft didn't hire a team to create a LittleBigPlanet-esque game on Xbox 360.
2009-10-13 17:48:00

Author:
ARD
Posts: 4291


Great job on not reading the entire topic yourself...

saying everyone doesn't literally mean everyone- everyone is commonly used ro describe a large quantity of people, and as such he used it correctly.

anyway... It may just be me, but I see absolutely NO simularities other then the obvious platformer and plane shifting- well, and the funny theme, but LBP is much more then LBP's theme >_>

Seriously, how did this get to be such a problem?
2009-10-13 20:41:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882


and with that this thread should be done honestly what do you guys want from them? There an INDIE developer! Not a pro multimillion dollar corporation, its three guys doing it in there spare time. They said it was inspired by lbp and thats all i see, not a ripoff. Sure they're probably trying to play off its popularity for sales but thats the business. Lbp wasnt the first game to have little characters and no ones calling it a ripoff and honestly thats pretty much the only similarity between the two except for the garden, but even thats different.
I'm quoting this just so more people read it.
2009-10-13 20:44:00

Author:
Syroc
Posts: 3193


saying everyone doesn't literally mean everyone- everyone is commonly used ro describe a large quantity of people, and as such he used it correctly.

anyway... It may just be me, but I see absolutely NO simularities other then the obvious platformer and plane shifting- well, and the funny theme, but LBP is much more then LBP's theme >_>

Seriously, how did this get to be such a problem?

I think he meant because no one said microsoft copied LBP...

(In those quotes I mean )
2009-10-13 20:46:00

Author:
S-A-S--G-U-N-R
Posts: 1606


I think he meant because no one said microsoft copied LBP...

(In those quotes I mean )

He responded to some people saying that, and had one person as a counter argument- but I digress
2009-10-13 21:50:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882


Microsoft should just stay making their OS.

This is what I always say:

I should not hate Microsoft cause Microsoft owns Apple, but I hate Microsoft cause it's from XBOX and I like PS3 better.
-.-
Can you not read? It said Microsoft had nothing to do with it.
And yes, this is a rip-off
2009-10-13 22:13:00

Author:
Ricano
Posts: 434


-.-
Can you not read? It said Microsoft had nothing to do with it.
And yes, this is a rip-off
There is no sense in insulting him, he posted that over two months ago and I'm fairly certain he's been banned since. If not, he hasn't been active in a while anyway.
2009-10-13 22:15:00

Author:
BSprague
Posts: 2325


Yeah, Leo's been banned for ages now.


I think he meant because no one said microsoft copied LBP...

(In those quotes I mean )

I meant that Arkei was accusing whoever else it was of not reading the thread, while someone else had already replied to that post with an answer, thus making Arkei's post redundant, so I pointed it out to show the irony, then confused everyone in the process.
2009-10-14 17:41:00

Author:
ARD
Posts: 4291


I really don't understand why people are getting so angry about this, they've only taken like 2 or 3 idea's from LBP!
In the interview it says that they were working on the game before they even heard LittleBigPlanet. I'm pretty angry about how everybody is giving it bad feedback just because the beginning level is called "The Garden" and it has a skate ramp in it!
2009-10-14 18:21:00

Author:
olit123
Posts: 1341


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