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hi didn't really wish to post here again but felt it was necessary . qbert333 published a level which was a petition to make the '3d 50 layer glitch' a workable tool & paid for downloadable content. it reached page 3 of cool levels with considerable backing. 10 % of plays asked for their name to be added to this list which he worked hard to do. considering most people played the level a second time to see their name it is probably 20% . over 7 days on cool pages i estimate 15,000 potential names. His level was taken down, deleted, gone. He is carrying on again but i ask, is this silencing fair ??? really ? it seems like yet another public relations blunder by Mm to me. anyway, go & copy his level & show Mm we are willing to pay for a workable tailored version of this truly fantastic glitch. btw, this thread is not for opinions on the glitch but on unreasonable censorship . thankyou

2009-08-07 21:02:00 Author: J-Bear Posts: 85

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oh, one last thing. before any bright spark says that is 80% against the glitch being dlc it obviously isn't .The majority are unaware of it & those who don't want it feel strongly enough to say so. from the comments on his level before deletion this seemed to be around 1 against to every 25 people for the proposal.

2009-08-07 21:18:00 Author: J-Bear Posts: 85

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Sorry, but 50 layers is going too far. I'd say like 7 thick layers is enough.

2009-08-07 21:21:00 Author: Arkei Posts: 1432

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Please just leave Mm be! Whatever they are doing i'm sure its for the best. All this 'commotion' is starting to make me wish the glitch was never found in the first place.

2009-08-07 21:24:00 Author: Leather-Monkey Posts: 2266

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Was there anything offensive in the level? Its possible it just got modded by people, OR people had it modded anyway because they didn't like it. Not everyone uses the good grief buton as they should =/ you don't know MM was necessarily responsible for those reasons. also, seriously, why is there a petition in the first place? MM is going to make their own decision about this glitch, and how it affects the game etc, a petition isn't going to change a thing if they realize it needs to be patched.

2009-08-07 21:27:00 Author: Burnvictim42 Posts: 3322

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That petition is the worse thing you can do about the glitch guys. MM knows well what they had to do with their game since they know the code, censorship or not.

2009-08-07 21:36:00 Author: OmegaSlayer Posts: 5112

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I think MM know that we love to have glitches to exploit the fact is they have a job of fixing anything that isn't meant to be in the game. As it was the layer glitch was used in the vast majority of cases to get cheap hearts by showing it off to those who aren't forum goers/ people who don't know about the glitch. So it should be removed and then MM decide if they want to dramatically change the image of their game. In my opinion, make it about 20 layers tops and save it for lbp 2. That 50th layer was so stupid to try and manipulate.

2009-08-07 21:48:00 Author: Shermzor Posts: 1330

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yes, i see your points about 'the glitch' i do. And yes 50 is maybe wayyy too many ( it is currently a 100 layer glitch' ) this amount of layers is easily argued to be game breaking. just 3 layers front & or back etc or whatever mm think benefits the game and the players experience . BUT. it feels like we have woken up from the 'MATRIX' and seen what is possible for Mm to want to put us all back to sleep. The majority do want it so lets not keep going over that as it diverts a real solution . maybe not even layers but just objects to enhance the immersion of the experience ? anyway, not cool to silence a major section of the paying lbp community because they hadn't 'officially' made a statement earlier. anyway lol, you all know i have a bee in my bonnet, one day i'll give up don't worry

2009-08-07 22:12:00 Author: J-Bear Posts: 85

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I'm not totally sure the Matrix is a good analogy... yes, MM has built a very nice game with a great level-building system. But..... no matter how empowered we may feel, it's still MM's game. They know what they want it to be, and they know how they want people to perceive it. And it's their right to do that. We get to "play" their game. One of the key goals they have been trying to achieve is "simplicity" - a complex creation system that appears simple to all ages. They may feel this many layers goes directly against this goal, and therefore (whether right or wrong) want to protect the integrity of the game. Most other glitches have simply been simple visual glitches..... this one is a bit different because it has the potential to make level building and managing of layers much more difficult.

2009-08-07 22:23:00 Author: CCubbage Posts: 4430

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Making a petition level is basically just spamming. They don't tolerate petitions on the official forums so I can see why it would be taken down. Having the level there with people signing it is not going to influence Mm's opinion on whether or not they're going to put it in the game or not. If they've taken it down, it's for a reason, so him putting another one back up, and you asking for everyone to copy it and do the same seems a little ridiculous to me. What's the point? You've already experienced Mm's opinion on the matter, and that's obviously that they don't like what he's done. So I don't see any reason to disregard their wishes and carry on making more. They've always done what is best for the game, and I trust they will continue to do so.

2009-08-07 22:26:00 Author: jackofcourse Posts: 1494

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I entirely agree on your points of keeping it as simple as possible as that is exactly what i am proposing they do with it. there is a learning curve to any game & it seems time our little planet got bigger. It isn't required everybody uses it , the game is suited to all levels of aptitude & this would keep people interested who have competence & a bigger vision. off topic a bit but those who want it to go because of the flood of highly rated poor glitch levels need to forward think a bit. ANYTHING can have a 'trend' like M Jackson or falling bombs or challenge levels . it will calm down. don't be frightened of change. look at what the possibilities truly are , for 1 minute ,please

2009-08-07 22:37:00 Author: J-Bear Posts: 85

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the 'point' as i see it is to reasure mm enough people want it & will pay for it that they see it as a strong way to go forward & benefit the company's cash flow with little risk as this normally this isn't the case . direct feedback from paying customers . & sorry but it is our game. We bought it, we carry on buying it, we create the content , we monitor & comment on it as they have let it go. it is your game, & my game, not their game. sorry.

2009-08-07 22:48:00 Author: J-Bear Posts: 85

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I have no idea how they could make 5-50 thick layers work smoothly and look nice. The 3(7) layers, to me, is one of the fundamentals in LBP. The glitch is exactly what its called, a glitch. Get rid of it and move on!

2009-08-07 22:48:00 Author: jakpe Posts: 84

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ok 'jakpe' , we won't put your name down for lbp 2 then. which will obviously be bigger & better , & the controversy over this is probably because this was Mm's main WOW factor for the second game they are working on. i know this is a fan boy site for mm but please ???? is anyone capable of independent thought here ?? gees!

2009-08-07 23:00:00 Author: J-Bear Posts: 85

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it is your game, & my game, not their game. sorry. Well then, I'm off to make a petition level stating that MM should stop interfering with my game and stop interfering with their expansions and patches and bug fixes, darn and blast it You think you've made a few levels and now it's yours. Honestly? Mark Healey and Dave Smith have devoted themselves to this for 4 years. It is very much their game, their vision and their baby. I will accept any route they decide to take with it, I honestly will, even if it is something I don't like or won't want to use. I would never be as arrogant as to demand anything from them - and I'm one of the most arrogant people I know! I have said it a thousand times, we are absolutely spoiled rotten with this game... None of us have plumbed the depths of what can be achieved in create mode with what we already have. NONE of us. Add to that the simple fact that most people can't design gameplay around 3 layers for ****. Most people won't be able to use 4 or 5 either. The possibilities are marginal. Meh. is anyone capable of independent thought here ?? gees! Is independent thought when we just agree with you? You do make me chuckle sometimes

2009-08-07 23:01:00 Author: rtm223 Posts: 6497

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It's actualy 130 layer glitch.

2009-08-07 23:04:00 Author: Adam9001 Posts: 744

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I agree with everyone else. This glitch could potentially break the game, or lead to many more bad glitches. Mm can't just ignore it and say "That's part of the game!". I doubt they'll keep it, but I don't really care about it. It really adds almost nothing to the gameplay.

2009-08-07 23:08:00 Author: Sunrise_Moon Posts: 469

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2 things wrong here. One from people and one from Media Molecule: People's wrong: Leave it be. Media Molecule knows about the glitch so stop being so anal about it. It's their games, they know what they have to do. They know if they can and if they want to make a feature out of it. Leave it be. Media Molecule's wrong: TALK TO YOUR COMMUNITY. They should have had a little press conference about the glitch and call it a day. If MM was clear about this glitch, people wouldn't go crazy this much about the glitch. .

2009-08-07 23:09:00 Author: RangerZero Posts: 3901

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This game was built and designed for THREE Thick Layers and FOUR Thin Layers. Media Molecule shouldn't be petitioned into keeping a "glitch," a freak mis-script, a bug in a complicated system, an ERROR in a web of code. The game is [almost] perfect the way it is. You have seven layers to work with, plenty for the average creator. This 50-layer glitch should be patched and sent packing into the bug heap, along with the rest of the people who try to go against the right judgement from Media Molecule.

2009-08-07 23:10:00 Author: Night Angel Posts: 1214

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meh, i think the layers we have no are exactly good. It really doesn't play good with all these extra layers. I don't like this glitch at all <_>

2009-08-07 23:11:00 Author: Yarbone Posts: 3036

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yeah i have to agree with rtm how can you like the game but not like the people that made it? to me your acting like mm are the villains here, taking away our hard earned tools, its a glitch, an accident, its not supposed to be in the game so theyll take it out. Will they implement it later on? who knows? im personally a fan of glitches but demanding them from the creators is not the way to do things

2009-08-07 23:12:00 Author: redmagus Posts: 667

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Hmmmm... but on the other hand... if someone can come up with a 50000 layer glitch and a way to move sackboy freely in and out of them, imagine the possibilities! That can't POSSIBLY be problematic.... and yes... it is THEIR game, not ours - we paid for the right to USE it, not to OWN it - they pay the programmers, they design it, they own the patents and the copyrights. So, it's their right to take the development in any direction they see fit. In the same way I take the internationally sold software I design in any direction I see fit - my customers suggest, I listen, and I decide what is best for the software (hopefully keeping my customers in mind)

2009-08-07 23:14:00 Author: CCubbage Posts: 4430

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You rarely make me chuckle. This is no ordinary game, the mm levels are to create an example of what can be done & u have to see that to get the items. it had to have an example you had to follow to be able to flourish is all. Just as this is their baby they dont 'own' the baby, it is free to be its own thing. i have paid 50 notes & more and my creations vanish everyday ( before this glitch btw ) . i don't own it cos i made a level . ?? everybody owns it because they did & paid for Mm to still be in existance as a company in a recession !!!

2009-08-07 23:14:00 Author: J-Bear Posts: 85

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? ppl didnt pay money to keep mm from going bankrupt if thats what you mean, at least i didnt, i payed money to buy a game, their game. You pay money, you get game, they dont owe you anything beyond that. The only thing anyone here owns is the game not the right to force desicions on the company that made it

2009-08-07 23:21:00 Author: redmagus Posts: 667

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Just as this is their baby they dont 'own' the baby, it is free to be its own thing. Exactly. so leave it alone. What you don't seem to understand is that you're trying to influence the game as well. Fact is, it isn't going to work. Continuing with the baby analogy, if theres something wrong with it, aren't you going to have a doctor look at it, and possibly fix whats wrong? Thats what MM is doing, they're protecting their child from going kablooie by acting the part of the doctor. They are the people who know the most about this game, they spent years creating it and studying its code (or anatomy). If this "baby" grows a tumor, and 50 billion people say that it should be kept because it looks cool, its still going to be removed because its harming the baby. This isn't about the glitch itself, its about the possible implications the glitch may have on the well being of the game. And if you think you own the game, you should probably read the Terms of Service more closely... i'm sure theres something related to that in there. (not that i read it either XD)

2009-08-07 23:24:00 Author: Burnvictim42 Posts: 3322

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nope, as Ccubbage says, you own the right to use the game. You own a little bit of IP rights to your creations, but they are derived works anyway so that gets a little complicated and way beyond the scope of this discussion. But you REALLY don't own the game. In fact Sony own the game, but thats a little technicality due to laws and contracts and suchlike, but we wouldn't want those to be influential now would we I don't think this is an issue where the community should be having a "toys out of the pram" moment, it's embarrasing.

2009-08-07 23:26:00 Author: rtm223 Posts: 6497

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Wow... this is just like real-life politics. Two sides wage war on eachother, each with their own opinons and thoughts on the matter, with some random guest speakers thrown in, and in the end, nothing get's done. This is the same situation we're finding ourselves in now. We argue on the matter, yet no-one does something about it. Except for Media Molecule. They try to fix a problem that can destroy LBP (just like the Xbox's RROD), but then the public riticules them and flames them for doing so (just like Jesus and Gandhi). Maybe that's why it's still not fixed. Because everytime someone steps up to fix something, they get flamed and abused... or worse.

2009-08-07 23:28:00 Author: Outlaw-Jack Posts: 5757

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Not true. The whole success of this financial venture from the company relied ENTIRELY on us creating the content from their tools. ENTIRELY !! if we put millions of hours in to creating their wealth they should listen & respond to the hundreds of thousands of paying customers that know nothing of lbp central . **** u r a hardcore bunch

2009-08-07 23:32:00 Author: J-Bear Posts: 85

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I feel like this is making a scene and not conducive to it's own cause... any chance we had of actually getting this as a feature, or even as an untouched glitch left to it's own devices, has probably gone out the window. I'm sure the overwhelming majority of people joining in on the hysterics probably have no real vested interest in the situation, and just enjoy getting swept up in a mob regardless of what it's about or wether it really matters to them. I also feel that such a production is yet another waste of space on an already cluttered server, no different than your Official MM Statement level garnering thousands of plays based purely on capitalizing on the allure of hyperbole in this situation. There's so many amazing levels being released right now, and it's almost infuriating that this is one of the things they have to compete with on top of dealing with spammers, H4H'rs, copycats, and the like... several thousand mindless sods flooding the server with copies of the same pointless level is the last thing we need. It will also be terrible if this sets an example for others to follow. Anything that somebody might see as an outrage will suddenly require an obligatory boycott/petition level campaign.

2009-08-07 23:37:00 Author: Unknown User

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PLEASE . it would be helpful if people read the whole thread before posting. yes a glitch is destructive ! yes we don't want it ! if anyone happens upon this thread who isn't in love with anything Media Molecule do or say, please post & help my sanity ! lol , as for the rest of you regulars, you know i love you right ?

2009-08-07 23:43:00 Author: J-Bear Posts: 85

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I did read the whole thing. That's my take on wether or not trying to stem something like this with censorship is something I approve of.

2009-08-07 23:45:00 Author: Unknown User

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NINJAMIC !! CAPITALISING ?? CAPITALISING ?!? if only you had any idea instead of guessing what went on there. but you don't , so .... grrrr

2009-08-07 23:49:00 Author: J-Bear Posts: 85

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capitalising isn't even a word i can find easily in my spell check !the fact you thought of it says more about you 'NINJA'. i'm not some kid that 'NEEDS' plays or hearts ! man . i want to make cool levels people enjoy & my whole point from the beginning of this 3 weeks ago was ....... i want everybody to have the same opportunity !! i will tell everybody how to edit & republish if this judging of my personal character does not abate .

2009-08-08 00:00:00 Author: J-Bear Posts: 85

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Lesson to everyone: Don't question Ninja on the English language lol. You are in for a world of hurt if you do... And update your spell check http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/capitalize http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/capitalize

2009-08-08 00:06:00 Author: rtm223 Posts: 6497

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lol , we all like a bit of comedy to lighten the mood but seriously , i've been thinking of putting a level on page 1 telling every paying player how its done. & don't underestimate the impact this would have. or how quickly i can get there . 24 hours would get me to page 2 with even 2 stars. i have been thinking of all those poor people that dont know what we know & well, you have prooved you're not a worthy bunch. expect changes in september , u've irritated me enough !!

2009-08-08 00:18:00 Author: J-Bear Posts: 85

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capitalising isn't even a word i can find easily in my spell check !the fact you thought of it says more about you 'NINJA'. i'm not some kid that 'NEEDS' plays or hearts ! man . i want to make cool levels people enjoy & my whole point from the beginning of this 3 weeks ago was ....... i want everybody to have the same opportunity !! i will tell everybody how to edit & republish if this judging of my personal character does not abate . I understand, but you've shown yourself to be very prone to blow things out of proportion and react very rashly with little to no solid information to go off of. You have to realize that all this stuff does is detract from what we all play the game for... good levels from all over the world, including yours and mine. I can assure you that if there is no problems with this glitch, that interfere with the game's stability in any tangible way, it will be left alone. This is not the way. In fact... the only thing it's probably accomplished is taking something that's free if it's stable and can be left as is, and turning it into something that will most assuredly cost money... because if the glitch doesn't work, then an add on feature won't work either. If it does, then it already did. Also, no one cares. I've told every single person I know how to get more plays through republishing, and I haven't seen a new level in a loooong time that doesn't have a hundred or so republishes in it's comments section. It would also benefit good creators who don't know these tricks, and the playing field would be as level as it was to begin with. Nothing would change.

2009-08-08 00:18:00 Author: Unknown User

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I haven't seen a new level in a loooong time that doesn't have a hundred or so republishes in it's comments section. Check mine out then... I don't use it

2009-08-08 00:27:00 Author: jackofcourse Posts: 1494

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to clarify ' how its done' . Not the glitch, how to get your levels to page 1. the ' biggy' nobody really talks about. the cause of distress for thousands whilst you enjoy your moment of fame. yes, i'm going to change your comfort zone. why you ask ? for being subjective unreasonable Mm fanboys . WELL DONE

2009-08-08 00:28:00 Author: J-Bear Posts: 85

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to clarify ' how its done' . Not the glitch, how to get your levels to page 1. the ' biggy' nobody really talks about. the cause of distress for thousands whilst you enjoy your moment of fame. yes, i'm going to change your comfort zone. why you ask ? for being subjective unreasonable Mm fanboys . WELL DONE Just because we don't agree with you doesn't make us 'fanboys'. It means we have a different opinion. We can understand the reasons Mm took down the level. It was just the wrong way to go about trying to keep it. When it comes down to it, Mm will do what they like. No matter what you think, it really is THEIR game. Not yours. Not mine. Not anyone else's. I've put so many hours into this game it is unreal. I've put my heart and soul into my levels and I am so proud of them, but it is irrelevant, that doesn't mean they owe me anything. It's still Mm's game.

2009-08-08 00:31:00 Author: jackofcourse Posts: 1494

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I'm sorry mate, but you call us subjective, because we don't agree with you. Where is your objectivity? Is it because thousands of people agree with you? OK, I'll take that. But you also critisise us for not having independant thought, when you are just agreeing with the masses. Bottom line: if you are going to post your opinion on a public forum, expect others to disagree with you, because they simply do not have the same opinion. Don't tell them they are wrong or attempt to insult them for disagreeing with you. Get over yourself, your opinion is no more valid than anyone else's.

2009-08-08 00:34:00 Author: rtm223 Posts: 6497

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lol what a character. Don't feed the troll.

2009-08-08 00:51:00 Author: Unknown User

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You know.... I honestly get the feeling this guy is an unreasonable, single-minded guy. Umm.... j-bear.... I've seen 4 or 5 levels in the last few months on page 1 that have told people how to get to page 1 through republishing (with comments such as "duh - everyone knows that"). The missing ingredient is - to do it the level has to have the ability to be popular. Everyone KNOWS about the republishing ability nowadays - so go ahead. The only thing you will accomplish is, maybe, getting some MORE people to spam post bad levels all over the place and make the game slightly less fun for everyone. Why? Because for some strange reason you think MM is a Government and it's up to "us" the people to fight for the rights that are truly ours!!!!! In reality, it's a game... and MM most likely is working on their next game and at the same time keeping up the quality of this one. If you want to make enemies with people just because they have a balanced viewpoint on the matter go right ahead. Nobody here are "fanboys" - most of the folks you are directing that at are professionals in marketing, software development, or are otherwise incredibly intelligent and artistic people. EDIT: Yeah, I agree with Ninja - it's feeding the troll. My future comments on this thread will be stuff like "Yeah, sure.... you're right, we're wrong... whatever.... here, have a cookie..."

2009-08-08 00:54:00 Author: CCubbage Posts: 4430

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lol. don't worry , i've posted a few comments here & there to get a good overall comparative view of what lbp central is all about. i'd like to say its been fun : ) but i can't . lol. there were moments i looled rofled & lmao but those people's comments were rare. YES, it seems i made a blunder with the 'unofficial statement ' but as i've said over & over, where were mm when i asked them about that. they & you all on this small forum give me no joy i will commence to make a tutorial regarding editing & republishing under several new psn's & claiming page 1 in less than 2 weeks. this was never my plan , but, the attitude i've heard here about lesser creators who simply want plays. i will do what is best for the majority as i always said. eventually we will have a fair game , there's something to smile about

2009-08-08 00:57:00 Author: J-Bear Posts: 85

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Yeah, sure.... you're right, we're wrong... whatever.... here, have a cookie... Many people have done that already.... enjoy.

2009-08-08 01:03:00 Author: CCubbage Posts: 4430

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i'm really not sure if regulars to this forum are taking me seriously or not so here it is.... i am going to do this close this thread & i will commence not only to tell the whole lbp community how to get to page 1 in 2 days. close this thread on me & i will clearly explain how to make a challenge level with scoreboards that give you 150 000 plays in a week. i tried to explain & be friendly with you but ... anyway. i believe you shouldn't be the only ones with the secret.

2009-08-08 01:14:00 Author: J-Bear Posts: 85

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The game originally had 11 layers to begin with, 5 thick and 6 thin.

2009-08-08 01:15:00 Author: Arkei Posts: 1432

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i'm really not sure if regulars to this forum are taking me seriously or not so here it is.... i am going to do this close this thread & i will commence not only to tell the whole lbp community how to get to page 1 in 2 days. close this thread on me & i will clearly explain how to make a challenge level with scoreboards that give you 150 000 plays in a week. i tried to explain & be friendly with you but ... anyway. i believe you shouldn't be the only ones with the secret. Umm..... you're right.... republishing is a HUGE secret we've been hiding from everyone... and NO ONE knows that you can make a bomb level that can get to page 1. We're the keepers of ALL that knowledge, and we don't want that secret getting out so that other's levels get attention! Yeah, sure.... you're right, we're wrong... whatever.... here, have a cookie...

2009-08-08 01:17:00 Author: CCubbage Posts: 4430

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thank you, , sorry , too late tho and hilariously people saying it has been done before have noooo idea but they will . i wont be a flash in the pan level , fool. it will be AWESOME and it will be copyable & i will do it four times for 4 weeks

2009-08-08 01:29:00 Author: J-Bear Posts: 85

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One day you'll look back on all this and think **** I really wasted my time.

2009-08-08 01:32:00 Author: Rabid-Coot Posts: 6728

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thank you, , sorry , too late tho and hilariously people saying it has been done before have noooo idea but they will . i wont be a flash in the pan level , fool. it will be AWESOME and it will be copyable & i will do it four times for 4 weeks I thought they may be a way back from this disagreement but you've just become intolerable. Just go and do whatever it is you keep nattering on about and stop posting how amazing it is going to be.

2009-08-08 01:34:00 Author: jackofcourse Posts: 1494

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hmmm? you make light of it all you want lol. it doesn't change the fact the real players of the game don't know this. A MASSIVE percentage . your 'everybody knows it anyway ' comments simply highlight your distance from the true demographic

2009-08-08 01:37:00 Author: J-Bear Posts: 85

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to clarify ' how its done' . Not the glitch, how to get your levels to page 1. the ' biggy' nobody really talks about. the cause of distress for thousands whilst you enjoy your moment of fame. yes, i'm going to change your comfort zone. why you ask ? for being subjective unreasonable Mm fanboys . WELL DONE Are you drinking too much caffeine or what? Calm down.. relax... breath... I seriously have no idea why you are being so freaked out about all this and getting yourself so bent out of shape. You ask others opinions and that is what you get. If you cannot rationally discuss nor accept that others may feel differently, then you probably should not ask the question in the first place. So unfortunately you are the one as usual, being pretty unreasonable. Going on a vigilante mission to rule page 1 is pretty comical. The players that most of us are interested in usually sift through those pages to the real meat anyway. You could publish a Britteny Spears in a Blender level (oh wait.. someone did that didn't they?) and probably get the same amount of attention. So if you want to be true to your art and do what is important to you, then you would simply concern yourself with creating wonderful worlds that make you happy and possibly bring some joy into other peoples lives. Grandstanding on LBP is not going to win you any friends nor any respect, unless of course you are wanting to lead a bunch of minions with pitchforks and flamethrowers.. then maybe that is just the ticket to fame you need. So I would suggest to just calm down and get to know us, explore the the levels and skills from some pretty phenomenal creators here, and get some great feedback to help you improve as a creator. Oh yeah.. and have a cookie.

2009-08-08 01:45:00 Author: jwwphotos Posts: 11383

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2009-08-08 01:52:00 Author: Unknown User

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I kind of want a cookie too now... all this typing has made me hungry... Think I'll go play LittleBigApocolypse for a bit so I can fully see what LittleBigPlanet will look like when J-Bear gets done with it....

2009-08-08 02:01:00 Author: CCubbage Posts: 4430

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I'm not sure why you're (I'm directing this at J-Bear, btw) threatening to "reveal" a "secret" that people openly talk about on a website that they go out of their way to advertise and has free admission, but it actually doesn't sound like a bad idea, so feel free to do so. I was under the impression that sites like this existed so we could talk about these things. That being said, these threads have a way of becoming about you, don't they? Since this appears to be something that happens particularly to you, might I put forth that this is because of the way you behave, whether that's better or worse. Maybe you're right and we're just all idiots, but at the very least, I think it's clear that it's the way that you're behaving - in a way that is clearly not how everyone else is behaving - that causes you to become the center of attention. Now if you like this, by all means continue. However, if you are honestly bothered by it, might I suggest simply evaluating your behavior. Even if it's superior to ours in some way, it's clearly why these threads seem to become about you. So, if you want people to stop making "personal judgements" (I haven't read the whole thread and apologize if anyone has), might I suggest the easiest way of doing that is actually just to not make a spectacle of this sort. Now, maybe we're all daft and "drink the company kool-aid", so-to-speak, so I'm not claiming we're the good guys and you're the villain, but it seems like a relatively simple situation regardless of who has the supposed "moral-high-ground". If you're actually bothered by the attention ... don't make a spectacle. If you secretly like it though, which is normal, than feel free to continue to do so (within limits, of course). So original topic of the glitch aside, if you don't want people to make personal judgements ... act differently. Even if you think it's because of fault within the people here ... you aren't going to change them, they will continue to react the same way to your same behavior, and things will continue like this, even if you're right. Just wanted to make that clear, in case it wasn't - although I suspect it might have been and you simply like the attention. So if you want things to continue this way, again, feel free to continue making a spectacle. Attacking me for interjecting would be a good place to start.

2009-08-08 02:02:00 Author: Jagrevi Posts: 1154

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jwphotos or whatever your name is , well done , you calmed me down & made me see reason through my haze of discontent . lmao. as always i go completely off the handle because there was a bug on my toothbrush . look. truth is i feel pretty bashed by the whole 'LBP_level_Critic' mess. I'm an honourable guy & always have been & mass opinion to the contrary has sent me a little fuzzy around the edges this past few weeks. maybe my fault ? i see it differently but i surely felt my reputation & credibility were gone for good & unfortunately i am a reactionary personality so i felt i had to clear my name as people were saying i am a LIER . i could have done & said things different but untill u have the whole community hating on you i guess you don't know what u'd do . ( its pretty intense ! rofl ) well. SORRY ALL

2009-08-08 02:15:00 Author: J-Bear Posts: 85

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lol , i've just noticed your little commen jagrevi you'll always be a twonk

2009-08-08 02:23:00 Author: J-Bear Posts: 85

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I actually have been in similar situations on message boards where it's me vs everyone, and it's not fun. None of us were trying to attack you, we're all a very friendly and courteous place where everyone is genuinely nice... and I only threw that in there as an example of how out of control and hysterical people can get if they're all riled up and lead to believe the same thing.

2009-08-08 02:23:00 Author: Unknown User

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... So if you want to be true to your art and do what is important to you ... See... I think you all are missing the bigger picture here. This is J-Bear's art and he is being true to it. He loves getting all you riled up. You're one nutty cat J-Bear! But it's surely entertaining!

2009-08-08 02:30:00 Author: v0rtex Posts: 1878

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Well your comment & judo kitten made me grin like a cheshire cat so i guess you are right . i'm one crazy cat : ) although , i will endeavour in the future to make a level that amazes & astounds , but i'm just finishing my uneven dark matter stairway to heaven at the moment so i can't promise anything

2009-08-08 02:40:00 Author: J-Bear Posts: 85

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Good. All better now. Can we all have a cookie?

2009-08-08 02:51:00 Author: CCubbage Posts: 4430

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Mmmm... cookies... Om Nom Nom Nom Nom....

2009-08-08 02:53:00 Author: v0rtex Posts: 1878

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jwphotos or whatever your name is , well done , you calmed me down & made me see reason through my haze of discontent . lmao. as always i go completely off the handle because there was a bug on my toothbrush . look. truth is i feel pretty bashed by the whole 'LBP_level_Critic' mess. I'm an honorable guy & always have been & mass opinion to the contrary has sent me a little fuzzy around the edges this past few weeks. maybe my fault ? i see it differently but i surely felt my reputation & credibility were gone for good & unfortunately i am a reactionary personality so i felt i had to clear my name as people were saying i am a LIER . i could have done & said things different but untill u have the whole community hating on you i guess you don't know what u'd do . ( its pretty intense ! rofl ) well. SORRY ALL LOL!! ..well happy to be of service I guess! ..and you may call me jww. Truthfully I wouldn't worry too much about folks calling you a lier or whatever. The whatever critic mess.. I didn't even bother reading about it and so I actually have no idea what you are talking about. I don't really pay attention to gossip, hearsay, 'neersay', 'this or that say'. So all is good and there are several on this forum in that same ballpark. Most are rational, intelligent and warm people that are here to support one another. As Ninja states, it's no fun being in the spotlight when everyone is saying nay nanner nay nay.. I wouldn't like it either and for that I am horribly sorry that you have become as you say a spectacle of sorts. I guess I would be pretty irritable as well. However, poking folks here on this forum with a stick to champion your cause won't win any rep points!! See... I think you all are missing the bigger picture here. This is J-Bear's art and he is being true to it. He loves getting all you riled up. You're one nutty cat J-Bear! But it's surely entertaining! LOL!! ahh.. I have no idea v0rtex. I just know that cat of yours keeps trying to punch me every time I see you post!!!!

2009-08-08 02:58:00 Author: jwwphotos Posts: 11383

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jww, poking people with sticks is almost definitely wrong : (

2009-08-08 03:54:00 Author: J-Bear Posts: 85

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jww, poking people with sticks is almost definitely wrong : ( ..but poking sticks into a fire with weenies and marshmallows are yummy as all get out.

2009-08-08 05:13:00 Author: jwwphotos Posts: 11383

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hmm? i'm English, explain 'weenies' . maybe that's another thread entirely discuss

2009-08-08 07:56:00 Author: J-Bear Posts: 85

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http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/4962/20060405bingo.png

2009-08-08 11:11:00 Author: Rabid-Coot Posts: 6728

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Genious. Absolute genious.

2009-08-08 11:18:00 Author: rtm223 Posts: 6497

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hmm? i'm English, explain 'weenies' . maybe that's another thread entirely discuss Oh sorry!! - Hot Dog or Frankfurter I have the same issue with English slang.

2009-08-08 12:58:00 Author: jwwphotos Posts: 11383

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hmm? i'm English, explain 'weenies' . maybe that's another thread entirely discuss Weenie is a slang term for penis.

2009-08-08 13:12:00 Author: Rabid-Coot Posts: 6728

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Weenie is a slang term for penis. Sorry.. that might be true, but not how I meant it. I meant hot dogs. :blush:

2009-08-08 13:16:00 Author: jwwphotos Posts: 11383

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I personally think it's actually hard to play levels with loads of layers, I often try and jump on a layer that isn't accessible.

2009-08-08 13:33:00 Author: Zac Posts: 165

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Can we just lock this thread and never speak of it again?

2009-08-08 13:37:00 Author: Matt 82 Posts: 1096

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Can we just lock this thread and never speak of it again?Oooh - I second that!

2009-08-08 13:47:00 Author: v0rtex Posts: 1878

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Oooh - I second that! Yes! and that should happen right now! I third that btw.

2009-08-08 13:49:00 Author: oldage Posts: 2824

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I fifth that... Wait a second.. I fourth it. http://thehealthblogger.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/cookie.jpg Mmmmmmmm.... *Drools*

2009-08-08 19:13:00 Author: resistance1 Posts: 812

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I must admit, I signed a petition, nothing asking for 50 layers but just two or three more as a DLC. I know y'all have different feelings about this, and that's great. But I personally enjoy experimenting with these things, that's just me, so I signed up. If you're against it, I see why and I understand completely. What I fear the most is that people are just going to use it as an excuse to beg for hearts (FISH TANK USING 3D LAYER GLITCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!OMG!PLZ HEART), hence the reason why I hate most of the LBP community.

2009-08-08 21:25:00 Author: KoRnDawwg Posts: 1424

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I recommend this thread to be locked. Treating a new guy like dirt isn't really how this forum rolls, and I've been here long enough to say that I've seen better come from these posters. The same goes for the new guy. Treating experienced players/posters like, dare I say, noobs or dirt, doesn't leave a good impression on your peers. It especially doesn't help in the long run. Although I have no dictation, I recommend this thread to be locked.

2009-08-09 04:15:00 Author: Outlaw-Jack Posts: 5757

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I told you Bakscratch to keep it LBPC-Members only. Now it's spreading and patched. I told ya... I TOLD YA. :kz:

2009-08-09 04:30:00 Author: Unknown User

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meh indeed this layer glitch is getting to much now... I hope I really hope mm gonna patch it.

2009-08-09 16:42:00 Author: Dexist Posts: 570

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