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call it whatever you like, do you guys like it, i actually love it, the sport has such a raw intensity too it and i've been on an MMA training program, it's brutal to the nth degree gotta give those guys credit what they do is amazing. What do you guys think about MMA/UFC/Tapout
Also if you want to check out the program i'm on at the moment this is one part of it: http://www.mensfitness.com/fitness/workout_routines/293		2009-06-23 02:41:00

Author:
Frank-the-Bunny
Posts: 1246

i personally like mma, too. im not overly obsessive, but i enjoy watching the fights. ufc100 is going to be good, who do you think will win?

i also watch WEC some times, on versus channel (its a US channel)		2009-06-27 16:01:00

Author:
gofurr360z
Posts: 886

Im a really big fan of mma, specifically the ufc. It seems to have the most talented and exciting fighters on earth.It is the most meaningful sport out of any other. People may go crazy about kobe bryant because he can hit some incredible shots, but when it comes down to it, hes just putting a ball in a hoop. But when you submit somebody with a rear naked choke, you literally just killed them with your bare hands.Its the ultimate statement. Knockouts are also the most exciting thing to watch bar none.But even though its a very pysical sport, its also very mental, one bad move and your on the ground wondering what happened. MMA is the most exciting sport there is, and i love it.2009-06-27 16:33:00

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Jrange378
Posts: 573

^^^ agreed2009-06-29 23:15:00

Author:
gofurr360z
Posts: 886

very much agree2009-07-02 19:44:00

Author:
Frank-the-Bunny
Posts: 1246

Oh and regarding who will win

Mir vs. Lesnar-I think Mir will beat lesnar again, he is more agile and skilled on his feet, and he can submit him on the ground.Im definately not counting lesnar out though, he is a beast, have you seen what he did to Heath herring?

GSP vs. Alves-I dont know too much about Alves, except he is a knockout artist who took down an aging hughes.But I think GSP will win, he is just too dominant on the ground and can hold his own in standup.He will take alves down and ground and pound.

Bisping vs. Henderson-I really hope Henderson wins, i cant stand Bisping.This will be a close one, but i think hendo will pull through with superior wrestling and his right hand.		2009-07-06 00:29:00

Author:
Jrange378
Posts: 573

im gonna say lesnar for that one D: he just freaking beats your face in. did you see that one fight where he was literally bouncing that other guy's face off the mat?

definitely GSP. you're right, he will just dominate the ground.

i dont know who will win with bisping and henderson... i personally want henderson to win, just because UK whooped US in the UFC series, and we need a comeback XD		2009-07-07 20:37:00

Author:
gofurr360z
Posts: 886

Lesnar over Mir by TKO. The dude is an animal and will most likely handle him the same way he fought Herring: put him down and ride him through the final bell if that's what it takes.

I hope to see GSP dominate the fight against Alves. Outside of the Spider, GSP seems to be the one guy that somehow makes winning in the UFC look easy.

And I'm just hopeful that Henderson wins out over Bisping. I'm sure it will be a great bout; hopefully better than expected. I love UFC events that are chock full of goodness.		2009-07-07 21:01:00

Author:
supersickie
Posts: 1366

I'm a fan of the K-1. It's not too popular in the US, but meh, it's awesome.2009-07-07 21:52:00

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Code1337
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Lesnar over Mir by TKO. The dude is an animal and will most likely handle him the same way he fought Herring: put him down and ride him through the final bell if that's what it takes.

I hope to see GSP dominate the fight against Alves. Outside of the Spider, GSP seems to be the one guy that somehow makes winning in the UFC look easy.

And I'm just hopeful that Henderson wins out over Bisping. I'm sure it will be a great bout; hopefully better than expected. I love UFC events that are chock full of goodness.

Just wanted to point out that my predictions from a few days seem to have been spot on. I was giddy with joy the way Lesnar basically humiliated Mir. And how about Hendo's knockout and the falling haymaker for good measure on Bisping?! Best KO I've seen in some time...

And GSP is just so dominant. In my mind, he probably won the fight 50-43 after the way he manhandled Alves in the first two rounds. I think it would be cool for GSP to move up in weight and fight Anderson Silva, but it should be a non-title match for obvious reasons.		2009-07-12 14:57:00

Author:
supersickie
Posts: 1366

my predictions were spot on too! henderson versus bisping was BY FAR the best fight ive seen in a while! after henderson knocked him out, he literally dove onto his face with his fist XD greatest knockout in a long time2009-07-12 19:30:00

Author:
gofurr360z
Posts: 886

Its awesome. Its just a shame that it does not draw the attention that the fake BS WWF does. So many weak minded people are easily draw into all the flashy BS and just throw their money into it. All that money should be going to the real fighters.2009-07-12 21:30:00

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rz22g
Posts: 340

Looks like i was a little too hopeful for Mir, i sorta knew what would happen before, but didnt want to Lesnar would win, i hate the guy.Dana White needs to sign Fedor to kick lesnars ***. His hands are like freaking lunch boxes.

Other than that though, I had it to a tee, GSP won with ground game, Henderson used his right hand and so on. Notice how loudmouth Bisping took his sweet time getting up and being viscously knocked out by Henderson XD He layed there soooo long, my buddy thought he was dead XD		2009-07-13 21:50:00

Author:
Jrange378
Posts: 573

I personally dont like Lesnar either. the only reason i said he'd win is that he wins just about every time!

now youre going to bring up that time Mir submitted him. Lesnar won that fight. we all know it. he beat the crap out of Mir. then he made the mistake of taunting him and putting his foot in his face, pretty much saying "come on. i dare you to submit me.". so Mir did >.>

with Henderson vs Bisping, i thought it was funny how Bisping is always bad-mouthing Henderson XD and how Henderson hardly ever bad-mouths anyone. then he finally bad-mouths back, saying "that last punch was to shut him up a little", and he gets boo'd >.> whats up with that?		2009-07-14 00:44:00

Author:
gofurr360z
Posts: 886

I wasnt going to bring up that fight, but he didnt win.It was his very first mma fight and made a bad mistake, and mir made him pay. What Lesnar learned is that in the next fight hes not going to transition and ground and pound, hes just going to sit on him so he cant submit him, and ground and pound.

I dont remember Hendo getting booed, but then again, it was loud in hooters, and i going crazy for a while not paying attention.........lol XD no i dont buy it, i just go to hooters to watch it lol.		2009-07-14 03:27:00

Author:
Jrange378
Posts: 573

Those fights were awesome! UFC needs to add a women's division... You guys ever heard of Gena Carano? Not sure if I spelled that right, just look up Crush from American Gladiators... She is pretty hot, and can seriously fight!2009-07-14 19:00:00

Author:
LuckyShot
Posts: 713

Yeah i know who Gena Carano is, but i dont think the womens division is a big draw. Dana white is busy expanding the ufc to mexico, where its sure to explode.2009-07-14 23:07:00

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Jrange378
Posts: 573

to mexico? good god, i hope theyre prepared to earn a huge amount of cash XD2009-07-15 08:21:00

Author:
gofurr360z
Posts: 886

LOL, i cant tell if your being sarcastic or not, but its the truth. Boxing is still alive today because they made the venture to Mexico and a ton of talented fighters came from there, as well as fighters.

Who do you guys think/want to win in ufc 101? Off the top of my head the bouts are:
Kenny Florian vs Bj Penn
Forrest Griffin vs Anderson silva
Amir Sadallah vs Johnny Hendricks		2009-07-15 15:55:00

Author:
Jrange378
Posts: 573

I'm hopeful that Kenflo will beat Penn; I just really dislike Penn after all the slander against GSP. The Sliva/Griffin bout has serious potential, but I'd give Silva the edge even though he's the one moving up in weight. I definitely like Griffin in most matchups, but it's Anderson Silva after all...

I'll give the edge in the other fight to Hendricks. Sadollah has had about a year off and is still a relatively unproven fighter in my opinion. Either way, it should be a good fight for sure.		2009-07-15 17:09:00

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supersickie
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http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc146/zekeike12/carano-cyborg03.jpg2009-07-15 19:45:00

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zekeike
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i was being serious when i said that D:2009-07-15 21:24:00

Author:
gofurr360z
Posts: 886

Good reasoning supersickle.

I agree i think florian will take the belt from bj.

Forrest griffin and the spider is a great match up. Anderson silva is devastating, and coming off 2 lackluster fights, hes sure to try and bring it to forrest. But you cant count forrest out, he has pulled off a couple victories as a underdog, and is a solid fighter who always has a good game plan.

Amir was injured and forced to withdras frim both his debut fights, and even though he probably trains hard, he is probably rusty. But i dont know about saying hes unproven, he facing johnny hendricks......wait who? This seems to be the start of operation " Give tuf 7 winner easy match ups so he can move up in the division and become a big name" This is what they do for all winners of the show.		2009-07-16 06:15:00

Author:
Jrange378
Posts: 573

Forrest griffin and the spider is a great match up. Anderson silva is devastating, and coming off 2 lackluster fights, hes sure to try and bring it to forrest. But you cant count forrest out, he has pulled off a couple victories as a underdog, and is a solid fighter who always has a good game plan.

definitely. remember Griffin vs Rampage? i thought Rampage had that fight. he was just tearing through everybody he fought. beating them down. then his fight against forrest came. forrest kicked his but! D: now you hardly hear about him : i think he's just getting old, and rusty. i mean, how can he compare with these newer guys that are 15 years younger than him? he just doesnt have the energy anymore

anyways, like i meant to say, forrest always seems to come and win these fights, even if you think his opponent will whoop him XD i dont know who to think will win Griffin vs Anderson. its too close of a fight.		2009-07-16 07:25:00

Author:
gofurr360z
Posts: 886

I hope you know forrest griffin is only 30, hes got a lot left in the tank, age isnt an issue. The fight that launched his career was when he pulled a big upset and beat "shogun" Rua. I WANT forrest Griffin to win, then i want Dan henderson to beat Silva for the beat. Then maybe we will see a anderson silva who wont play with his opponents and makes for some exciting fights.2009-07-16 17:04:00

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Jrange378
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nonono, i meant Rampage is getting older and can't really compete with some other guys with far more energy. XD i know Forrest has a lot left in his career.2009-07-16 17:20:00

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gofurr360z
Posts: 886

Rampage is only 31, and has won all but one of his 7 or so fights in the ufc. Rampage was actually going to fight Machida for the Title shot but decided to coach the new season of the ultimate fighter instead. Rampage is not done and is talked about all the time,lol.2009-07-16 22:36:00

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Jrange378
Posts: 573

oh wow, really? D: i thought he was 37 >.> shows how much i know about the fighters... but either way. you have to admit. after his loss against Forest, did you hear as much about him as you did before? i didnt >.>2009-07-17 01:23:00

Author:
gofurr360z
Posts: 886

Maybe that would be because Forrest took his belt? So maybe they would start talking about forrest because he upset rampage? Rampage isnt going anywhere, he will probably get the belt again sometime in his career( But not from Machida) He is talked about a lot.

Have you guys heard about kimbo slice becoming a cast member of the ultimate fighter heavy weight? Hes got my respect...Best of luck		2009-07-17 04:42:00

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Jrange378
Posts: 573

Maybe that would be because Forrest took his belt? So maybe they would start talking about forrest because he upset rampage? Rampage isnt going anywhere, he will probably get the belt again sometime in his career( But not from Machida) He is talked about a lot.

Have you guys heard about kimbo slice becoming a cast member of the ultimate fighter heavy weight? Hes got my respect...Best of luck

yes, yes, i understand :| just bringing up a point. no need to be like that.

and kimbo slice might get in UFC? D: he's gonna kick some butts.		2009-07-17 10:13:00

Author:
gofurr360z
Posts: 886

ohh man crazy action, i was watching it with my buddies down at the shore. We were like screaming we don't like Lesnar, but the guy has just way to much strength. Also anyone see the commercials for the new season of TUF with Rampage, oh man i forget the other guy, and Kimbo season looks awesome. Kimbo is by far my biggest disappointment, when he got knocked out in 17 seconds i was like woah maybe this guys is all hype?2009-07-17 13:42:00

Author:
Frank-the-Bunny
Posts: 1246

Yeah i know, kimbo was all hype and basically one dimensional as a fighter. But i gotta lot of respect for the guy who goes through the embarressment he is by going on tuf when he could be making lots of money somewhere else. He is really serious about being a rounded fighter i guess.

Gofur- I wasnt trying to be mean, i was just trying to come up with reasons why he wouldnt be talked about as much, sorry if i came across as lecturing you or something, i wasnt 		2009-07-17 17:33:00

Author:
Jrange378
Posts: 573

still makes me as excited as i have been in a long time for the new season2009-07-17 18:20:00

Author:
Frank-the-Bunny
Posts: 1246

Yeah, it makes it more interesting. I think a lot more people will watch than usual because they want to see if kimbo is a sham or for real.2009-07-17 22:39:00

Author:
Jrange378
Posts: 573

Gofur- I wasnt trying to be mean, i was just trying to come up with reasons why he wouldnt be talked about as much, sorry if i came across as lecturing you or something, i wasnt

alright, just a simple misunderstanding there no worries.

and i personally think Kimbo is good. maybe not among the best, but still good		2009-07-17 23:25:00

Author:
gofurr360z
Posts: 886

He definately has potential and it seems hes very serious about getting good.I think when he was with strikeforce they threw him into to some tough challenges he wasnt ready for. You arent ready to be a main event in your fight sanctioned fight XD they set him up for a fall imo. Even if he loses on ultimate fighter, hes is going to improve leaps and bounds by practicing with some of the greats.2009-07-18 06:17:00

Author:
Jrange378
Posts: 573

I can attest to Kimbo bringing back some people to TUF; I myself haven't watched since the second season and I'm pretty pumped to see Kimbo up close and personal. He's a fascinating guy on a personal level and certainly has some raw talent. We'll just have to see whether he squanders said talent or works it into skill.

On another note, I'm afraid my opinion on Anderson Silva differs quite a bit from the majority. It was a shame that Patrick Cote went down with an injury, but he wasn't winning that fight beforehand. The Thales Leites fight was a disgrace on the part of Leites; the man literally fell to the mat on numerous occasions because he knew he didn't stand a chance trading with Silva.

I guess my point is that Anderson Silva isn't so much a boring fighter as his recent opponents just haven't been up to snuff. He's a great fighter and it'll be really nice to see a fighter like Griffin not be afraid to trade shots with Silva. That said, I think Griffin will be fighting a losing battle in doing so; Silva's speed and quickness is near top notch and I can't imagine Griffin can keep up.

Just my two cents...		2009-07-20 16:01:00

Author:
supersickie
Posts: 1366

I agree with you on both subjects.

Kimbo can either mess his chance up or go places. I think everybody in the house is gonna tem kimbo what they think about him, hopefully he wont let them get to his head. Ive been reading around and Dana white says that after the first episode Kimbo is completely serious about getting into the ufc and that he respects kimbo now.

I dont think many people are giving Forrest half a chance in this fight, but i think he does. I agree with you on the fact that Forrest shouldnt turn this fight into a brawl, forrest isnt a guy who knocks guys out, so this would be an uphill battle.Anderson silva is good everywhere, but Forrests best chance is to attack him with what he is good at too, which is the ground game.
But if i was to guess what i think he will do, is that he will do hat he did to Rampage and utilize the low kick to throw silva off, then switch to push the pace when silva feels those kicks.		2009-07-21 19:54:00

Author:
Jrange378
Posts: 573

Oh wow, Do you guys know that Affliction, a company who promotes fights like the ufc, has folded? They are no longer doing any fights and are now a sponsor for the ufc! Affliction had control of Fedor emelianko ( SP?) and if the ufc gains control of Afflictions fighters, you can look forward to a Lesnar vs Fedor very soon. Incase some of you didnt know, fedor is considered the best heavyweight on earth, and one of the pound for pound best.Great news.2009-07-26 16:56:00

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Jrange378
Posts: 573

I hadn't seen that. Fedor vs. Lesnar could be a great fight, but I think Brock will more than likely have a title defense or two before Fedor is really even a consideration by Dana White. Fedor is a bad, bad man and it's highly unlikely White would want his biggest cash-cow to go out and get smoked by Fedor so soon after unifying the Heavyweight title. There's certainly a chance that Lesnar beats him, but he's a serious underdog in my eyes given that Lesnar would be far away from Fedor's most massive (size-wise) opponent. What a fight it would be though...2009-07-28 16:17:00

Author:
supersickie
Posts: 1366

Ive seen in an interview with dana white that if they can get fedor signed that he would get an instant title shot. I disagree with it, just cuz i would rather see Shane Carwin take the belt from him. But i guess its what everybody wants, and fedor doesnt need to prove himself or move up the ranks or anything,lol.2009-07-30 05:13:00

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Jrange378
Posts: 573

Ive seen in an interview with dana white that if they can get fedor signed that he would get an instant title shot. I disagree with it, just cuz i would rather see Shane Carwin take the belt from him. But i guess its what everybody wants, and fedor doesnt need to prove himself or move up the ranks or anything,lol.

I agree that Fedor deserves an immediate shot, but - in that same vein - Dana may just decide to hold off on signing Fedor to get Brock a bit more experience. Would love to watch Fedor fight in the UFC though.		2009-07-30 15:49:00

Author:
supersickie
Posts: 1366

Well, it looks like Fedor Has signed with Strike force, even though The UFC gave in to his every demand except letting another company, "M-1" promote with UFC. Fedor had to be crazy to think Dana would give in to that and give half profit of every event Fedor is in . Hes just one fighter. I think Fedor is scared to fight the best competition, and would rather fight scrubs and look good.

In other news, images of the new ultimate fighter cast have been revealed, Kimbo looks to be the smallest of the cast, and the least experienced. I might post pics later.		2009-08-05 18:41:00

Author:
Jrange378
Posts: 573

Yeah, I don't know what to think about Fedor at this point. I know the dude's tough as nails, but it's more clear than ever that he'd like to stay far, far away from UFC competition. It's sad in a lot of ways since I really do feel the guy has proven himself as a fighter and the road to being called the best pound-for-pound fighter goes straight through him.

In a way it's kind of cool that Fedor is outside of the UFC, but - that said - it's highly unlikely that a reigning UFC champion would be allowed to fight him (see Sylvia, Arlovski). I don't know; I guess I'm just content knowing that Fedor lurks somewhere out there, waiting for someone, anyone to knock him off of the mountain.		2009-08-06 13:11:00

Author:
supersickie
Posts: 1366

UFC 101 tonight baby! I'm going to my buddies tonight to watch it, here's my predictions...

BJ Penn Vs. Kenny Florian:
I have Penn winning this one, nothing against Kenny Florian, but i think BJ Penn has the overall strength and ability/stamina that will help him to finish off Florian, not sure if it's going to be by TKO though.

Anderson Silva Vs. Forrest Griffin:
I have Forrest Griffin winning this one. I'm fairly biest on this one though, i don't like Anderson Silva at all, he's to showy for me, i say Forrest Griffin wins in TKO, GO FORREST!!

Amir Sadollah Vs. Johny Hendricks :
I have Johny Hendricks winning this one. Amir Sadollah, i won't lie i haven't seen all that much on, but from what i have seen is that he is incredibly strong but i feel that Hendricks has better ability and chance to finish him off. I say this fight goes the distance.

Kendall Grove Vs. Ricardo Almeida :
I say Kendall Grove. I feel he is just a little better then Ricardo Almeida, because from the other times i have seen Ricardo fight, he is just a little too inconsistent for my liking, there are just too many things that i haven't seen happen, by TKO

Josh Neer Vs. Kurt Pellegrino :
Kurt Pellegrino winning this one. Josh Neer is a very good all around fighter and someone that could very well give the title belt a possible run. Neer is going to the distance though i doubt it will be a TKO.

Shane Nelson Vs. Aaron Riley :
Shane Nelson in my opinion. I don't know though, there is to little that i don't know about Aaron Riley, there are multiple questions that i still am trying to answer about his fighting style, i say Shane by TKO.

Tamdan McCrory Vs. John Howard:
Tamdan McCrory is going to win. He has the height advantage and the better record, he just an all around better fighter then John Howard in my opinion. I do hope Howard puts on a good show, because he is a very good fighter just not as good as Tamdan. Tamdan in TKO.

Thales Leites Vs. Alessio Sakara :
Alessio Sakara in my opinion. He may be an inch (if that matters to you) smaller, but he is extremely good and has all of the correct moves to make this battle and win it. This fight will probably go the distance though.

Matthew Riddle Vs. Dan Cramer:
Jeez, i really don't know, they are both new and i really don't know which one to go for, I say it will be by TKO, but the result inconclusive in my opinion as of now, i just haven't seen enough.

George Sotiropoulos Vs. George Roop :
George Roop will win i think. He seems to be the better of the two IMO. He knows exactly what to do, and when to strike so he can make the best choices to hurt his opponent the most and get the win, Roop by TKO.

Jesse Lennox Vs. Danillo Villefort :
Jesse Lennox will win. Jesse Lennox is a very good fighter and one that can take it to Danillo Villefort and can make him think twice of fighting him again any time soon. Win by TKO.

Those are my opinions.		2009-08-09 01:20:00

Author:
Frank-the-Bunny
Posts: 1246

Man, i cant wait, only an hour a away! These fights are so hard to call!

BJ Penn Vs. Kenny Florian:

Hmmmm, Baby J looks like a safe bet in this fight, but im gonna go with Ken-flo with a tko in the 3rd round. It really comes down to bjs conditioning, which seems to be his weakest point.If this fight goes into round 4 and 5, he cant gas or he will lose just like in the gsp fight.


Anderson Silva Vs. Forrest Griffin:
This is probably the hardest fight to call imo. Anderson silva is anderson silva, and forrest griffin always manages upsets. I really want an upset, bt its hard to say silva is gonna lose, i dont know. Forrest griffin with a decision.

Amir Sadollah Vs. Johny Hendricks :
They definately didnt give amir a easy first fight. Johnny hendricks looked good in wec, but this isnt wec. I dont have any trouble saying, Amir ko via knees.

Kendall Grove Vs. Ricardo Almeida :

I havent seen almeida too much so im not gonna say.

Shane Nelson Vs. Aaron Riley :

This one is up for grabs, and i dont care either, lol

Thales Leites Vs. Alessio Sakara :

Alessio sakura doesnt have good sub defense, and thats leites specialty, i dont like Thales,but he wins by sub.


Matthew Riddle Vs. Dan Cramer:
Riddle shows a lot of promise, and did you see how RIPPED that guy was! riddle by tko.

George Sotiropoulos Vs. George Roop :
George has more experience, and skill, hes gonna win by tko.		2009-08-09 02:19:00

Author:
Jrange378
Posts: 573

Just saw Forrest get smoked. Man, not even close. Well, let's have Florian knock off the Prodigy to make it a clean sweep for me.

EDIT: Ah, well; can't be right all the time. Good fight from both sides.		2009-08-09 04:53:00

Author:
supersickie
Posts: 1366

Silva made Forrest look like a beginner, wow. Bobbing in and out of his strikes like that!

I think that the amir and hendricks fight was early stoppage, he got knocked down, but he was starting to get up and was looking right at hendricks. Mirgliota (sp) could have let that one go to see what would happen,instead he ruined Amirs long awaited return to the octagon.		2009-08-09 16:59:00

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Jrange378
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Silva made Forrest look like a beginner, wow. Bobbing in and out of his strikes like that!

I think that the amir and hendricks fight was early stoppage, he got knocked down, but he was starting to get up and was looking right at hendricks. Mirgliota (sp) could have let that one go to see what would happen,instead he ruined Amirs long awaited return to the octagon.

Well put, i was really disappointed in Forrest, and he left after the fight like a wuss that's disrespectful, i was watching his training before fight and he might have been over trained, he just looked exhausted even going in the rink to start it, and yes the Amir fight was a terrible call, that should never have been called!		2009-08-09 17:50:00

Author:
Frank-the-Bunny
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Yeah, at first i thought he was embarressed, but after a medical examination, it was found that he dislocated his jaw. He probably freaked out and just ran.2009-08-09 19:38:00

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Jrange378
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Sorry for double post, but i actually found a live stream website to watch it on. I dont think i can post it here, so if you ever dont have a buddies house to go to, cant buy it, etc. But still want to watch it, give me a pm2009-08-09 19:42:00

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Jrange378
Posts: 573

The Amir fight could have gone either way. He was getting up, yes, but he wasn't exactly defending himself either. His hands were down - most likely due to balance issues - and it looked like Hendricks might land another two, three shots before he regained said balance. Watching it live, the stoppage looked good and it comes down to the safety of the fighters. After all, we'd all be singing a different tune if one of those four or five shots that Hendricks did land knocked him a la Michael Bisping at UFC 100. Best to be safe and as it's just a single fight in the end...

I can't say enough about Anderson Silva... so I just won't even go into it. He's the man to beat...

In the same vein as Silva, it'll be interesting to see who comes along that can really challenge Penn for the belt. Sanchez is apparently in line for a title shot, but I don't know if he's really got any better of a chance that Florian. He's a great fighter - and one I really enjoy watching - but I just don't know if he's on the same plane as the Prodigy.		2009-08-10 00:12:00

Author:
supersickie
Posts: 1366

I agree, if you look at it, all of the ufc title holders are seemingly unbeatable.

Bj penn-Diego sanchez has a chance

George st. pierre- Hes untouchable a 170

Anderson Silva-untouchable

Lyoto Machida- Well see how he does, if he can defend against some good guys and make it look easy, then we will consider him being on the same level as anderson silva.

Brock lesnar-I dont think he is unbeatable, but the heavyweight pool just isnt deep enough to surpass his sheer size and wrestling. If shane carwin cant do it, then they will give cain velasquez a shot, who will fail,they who else is there?		2009-08-10 03:29:00

Author:
Jrange378
Posts: 573

i agree, if you look at it, all of the ufc title holders are seemingly unbeatable.

Bj penn-diego sanchez has a chance

george st. Pierre- hes untouchable a 170

anderson silva-untouchable

lyoto machida- well see how he does, if he can defend against some good guys and make it look easy, then we will consider him being on the same level as anderson silva.

Brock lesnar-i dont think he is unbeatable, but the heavyweight pool just isnt deep enough to surpass his sheer size and wrestling. If shane carwin cant do it, then they will give cain velasquez a shot, who will fail,they who else is there?

Kimbo Slice!!!12!

It'll be very interesting to watch Machida the next few matches. I'm going to go ahead and guess he'll be uber dominant though. Not too many that can handle his style in that division.		2009-08-10 05:17:00

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kimbo needs to get good actually at fighting though all around, being a thug didn't work out to well2009-08-10 20:57:00

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What do you guys think about ufc 102? Only a couple days away.2009-08-25 00:40:00

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After looking at the card, it looks like there are a lot of replacements due to injury this time around. That said, I'll take Nogueira over the Natural. The Brazilian just seems to have quite a bit left in the tank in comparison and is much more dangerous than we saw against Frank Mir.

That said, I think Nogueira should get a shot at Lesnar straight away; that's a fight I'm eager to watch.		2009-08-25 17:03:00

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I dont know about that, i think i have to say the opposite.

Couture vs Noguierra- I think Randy looks to be in better shape than nog even though he is a good 13 years older. Nog has been in so many bouts and you can really tell how its wore him out. He gets beat up a lot in his fights too, which only adds to the problem. Randy always comes in with good gameplans, he wont let nog take him to the ground, he will clinch with nog and control him. Randy by tko.

Maia vs marquardt- i have to go with maia, he is amzing at ju jitsu and is undefeated.

Jardine vs thiago silva- I really wanna say thiago silva, but how can you bet against a guy who can dance like this

YouTube - Keith Jardine dancing

He was also a real bounty hunter before becoming a mma superstar.		2009-08-26 06:13:00

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Lots of great hits tonight! Nogueira handled Randy as I thought he would, but Couture fought like a true champion. Still not sure how he held on against those two submissions in the first two rounds. Remarkable fight.

Not sure if Leben attempted to tap or just decided to be a tough guy and take a nap. Thoughts. 		2009-08-30 05:33:00

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Yea you were right about the nog vs randy fight, good call. Noguiera was the better fighter that night. It was definately fight of the year material!

Jardine got dropped like i sorta thought he would

Maia getting ktfo was a giant surprise to me, and SO quick? I had bet on that fight, lol.

Overall though this was a way underrated ufc card, even i didnt think it would be that great. But i ends up being one of the best of the year, all awesome fights.		2009-08-30 16:30:00

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UFC 103 tonight...

I'm going to pick Junior over Mirko, but I'd love to see the Croatian make his way back to the top of the division. In the other major bout, I think Franklin should take care of Vitor. We'll see I guess...

EDIT:

Man, Hermes looked sick or something. Came in heavy apparently, but the fighters agreed to continue with the fight as was. Not sure what was going on there, but he didn't stand a chance really...

Koscheck takes down Trigg! Early stoppage? Maybe, but I think we've had this conversation before. I can't help it; I absolutely love the way Koscheck carries himself. He's a true warrior.

EDIT 2:

Another tough one in the Daley v. Kampmann bout. Something tells me that it was only a matter of time after that; it's not like Kampmann was doing a whole lot to slow Daley down.

EDIT 3:

Well, Junior took it down. Hate to see Cro Cop go out like that, but it'd be hard to fight with a busted eye socket I suppose. Sad to see all the greats slowly fall away, but it doesn't really happen any other way in MMA, does it?

EDIT 4:

Again, I guess I can't be right all the time. I really felt like this one would be a toss-up going in, but Belfort made pretty easy work of Franklin. An overall underwhelming event in my opinion.		2009-09-20 02:51:00

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Anyone gearing up for UFC 104 tomorrow night? My money's on Machida to defend the belt, but Rua is a tough dude all the same. Should make for a great fight given how their styles match up.2009-10-23 18:42:00

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Overall, great nights of fights

Shogun Vs. Machida
This was a really, really great fight. Lot of heart, skill and power shown from both fighters. With that said, WHAT THE **** WAS THAT?!?!

I really, honestly liked Machida going into this fight, and favored him to win a competitive fight. He could barely make it to his corner and put on his shirt after that fight. What did he do to shogun, EVER in that fight, let alone how did he do MORE than shogun? Machida's best combinations, when viewed again in the end of round replays, were almost completely blocked, with shogun firing and landing far more effective counter-punches. Even in Machida's highlights of the fight, he's on the worse end of the beating.

That should be 50-45 for shogun, at most 49-46 or 50-46, no way that was unanimous. I always enjoy the fights, I like the UFC, but that had to fixed or something. That was the worst decision in MMA, ever in my eyes. Feel terrible for Shogun. He IS the UFC light-heavyweight champion in my eyes. I liked Machida before the fight, but I don't like the way he accepted that win. There have been plenty of fighters who have won similar decisions, and manned up admitting they lost the fight. End of annoyed rant, just felt like ranting about it

Not sure how many of you watched it, but Dream 12 was tonight aswell. Between UFC 104 prelims, UFC main card, and Dream 12, there has been 8 stait hours of mma tonight for me 		2009-10-25 11:00:00

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Honestly, I fear this one may have been fixed. Rua wasn't especially dominant, but I thought he did enough to win the fight. The fact that it was unanimous is what really shocks me; I can't figure out how even one judge gave Machida three rounds let alone all the judges.

A very unconventional fight really given there were no takedowns. Could Machida have won the first round by defending Rua's takedown attempts? I'd really like to hear a round-by-round explanation from the judges. Until something of the sort comes out, I think a lot of fans are unsure about calling the UFC a non-corrupt organization...		2009-10-25 14:45:00

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I feel kinda bad agreeing with you (except for shogun not being particularly dominant - Shogun wasn't even breathing heavy after 25 minutes, Lyoto was switching to orthodox he was in so much pain), something had to be up. It's really not a stretch to say that was the worst decision in the history of MMA. The judging criteria for UFC is effective striking, effective grappling, octagon control, and aggression.

Re-watching that fight as a judge, with that criteria in mind, effective grappling was nil to me, yes Lyoto stopped takedowns from shogun, but those takedowns were used to stop Lyoto attempts to counter with strikes, which is also an effective use of grappling. So at least on effective grappling, they tie due to there being no grappling. Two easiest to score are octagon control and aggression - Shogun was always the aggressor and dictating where the fight was. In round 3 they were a bit closer, as Lyoto was able to push him back a bit, but it was still shogun clearly. Effective striking - Anytime Lyoto did an attack worth mentioning, Shogun hit him back harder. Lyoto had no offense better than Shogun, ever. Lyoto was visibly hurt, he kept switching to orthodox after getting leg kicked really hard, simply out of "okay that leg hurts, let please kick this one instead for right now". Blarg, that was dumb.

Anyways, an amusing thing from a Dream 12 post fight interview, Zelg Galesic vs. Kazushi Sakuraba:

Reporter: "Sakuraba had the heel lock early, but you kept pounding on him. Was it not effective?"
Zelg Galesic: "Actually unfortunately for me it was very effective. He had the heel hook and I felt my leg snap, so I thought 'okay, it's snapped. no point in quitting now' so I kept hitting him. Then he switched to the toehold and I felt my ankle snap. No need to tap out, I keep pounding him. Then he snap my knee."		2009-10-26 00:03:00

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Heya, i havent been too active on the boards lately.

Ufc 105! Its free! Awe yea!

I got randy winning over vera for sure.		2009-11-15 00:13:00

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Jrange378
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wait seriously i didn't hear that, awesome so excited!!2009-11-17 00:05:00

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