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Is there a Heart cap?

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Sorry noob question; but is there a Heart cap on LBP?

I pretty much Heart a level i think I'm going to come back to play, or really enjoyed it. But looking at my heart list there dosn't seem to be a scroll down button or anything, and i swear i hearted more than that's listed on my heart list.

I looked through the LBP manual but after not finding anything on it I threw it at the cat... but the cat threw somthing back and it kinda got messy....

P.S My Share, Create, Play (don't know if that's the right names for them) bubble thingies for other peoples profiles also don't work.....
2009-06-22 10:36:00

Author:
snowyjoe
Posts: 509


When you are looking at your hearted list, press R1 to change pages. That's probably your problem.

Don't know if there's a heart cap, if there is it's probably pretty big.

And the Play, Create, Share bubbles for your profile (what your referring to right?) haven't worked at all since the game came out. It's the one thing I've been dying for them to fix...
2009-06-22 10:39:00

Author:
TripleTremelo
Posts: 490


Ah thanks, you would think that those bubbles would start working since the game has been out for half a year now......2009-06-22 10:40:00

Author:
snowyjoe
Posts: 509


I was thinking that there might be a heart limit the other day. I noticed that my first level was no longer hearted. couple of days, and a few new hearts later I notice my second level was no longer hearted. got me thinking that there might be a limit that unhearts the older levels to make way for new ones.2009-06-22 12:50:00

Author:
Matt 82
Posts: 1096


There is a limit but it should be extremely high that probably nobody will reach it. I have 12 pages of hearted levels right now and i've seen people with 16 and 18 pages.

There's a bug though with hearting and from time to time, some levels will "unheart" themselves. It's really freaking annoying. Sometimes I'm going back in the hearted list of some older players that aren't there anymore and I always find old levels there that I had hearted but they de-hearted themselves.

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2009-06-22 16:00:00

Author:
RangerZero
Posts: 3901


There is a heart limit and it's actually very low. You only get 10 pages for levels and I'm assuming it's also 10 for authors. I reached my limit a long time ago. Unfortunately, I lost a lot of good levels in the process that I'll probably never find again. Now if I heart a level, I lose a level. Old levels gradually lose hearts as newer levels gain hearts. Now I just heart authors. 2009-06-25 01:25:00

Author:
Reef1978
Posts: 527


They need a notification about that (not as annoying as the profile full message)
I'm not sure why the cap would be so small, since the info is stored online.
2009-06-25 02:11:00

Author:
crazymario
Posts: 657


There is a limit but it should be extremely high that probably nobody will reach it. I have 12 pages of hearted levels right now and i've seen people with 16 and 18 pages.

There's a bug though with hearting and from time to time, some levels will "unheart" themselves. It's really freaking annoying. Sometimes I'm going back in the hearted list of some older players that aren't there anymore and I always find old levels there that I had hearted but they de-hearted themselves.

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There is a heart limit and it's actually very low. You only get 10 pages for levels and I'm assuming it's also 10 for authors. I reached my limit a long time ago. Unfortunately, I lost a lot of good levels in the process that I'll probably never find again. Now if I heart a level, I lose a level. Old levels gradually lose hearts as newer levels gain hearts. Now I just heart authors.

Someone is obviously wrong here.
2009-06-25 02:13:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250


Mine seems to be capped at 10... 11 and 12 are always hearted authors. I've recently had to reheart a few old classics like The Legion and The Movies.2009-06-25 03:40:00

Author:
Unknown User


Mine seems to be capped at 10... 11 and 12 are always hearted authors. I've recently had to reheart a few old classics like The Legion and The Movies.

I will definetely have some serious test with the heart page. Since I have at least 10 pages and already losing hearts on levels, it will be easy to verify.

I seriously hope we aren't topping at 10 pages. This would make me a sad panda.

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2009-06-25 18:10:00

Author:
RangerZero
Posts: 3901


Oh that kind of cap!
I thought you meant the kind of cap you put in your head...

Well, anyways...
I didn't know there was a limit, i'll have to check my old hearted levels to see if they're still hearted or if yet another problem has arised in the game.
2009-06-25 18:19:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707


Someone is obviously wrong here.
Not necessarily, I think one person may have just forgot that their own levels and hearted authors constitute their own pages.
2009-06-25 18:24:00

Author:
BSprague
Posts: 2325


Man, I hope I haven't been losing hearted levels...

I heart tons of stuff. I'm quite sure I've done well over ten pages worth. I haven't really bothered to check to make sure all my old ones are there though, so I don't know if my hearted pages cut out at 10...

If they do, this needs to be increased ASAP by MM!
2009-06-25 23:32:00

Author:
hilightnotes
Posts: 1230


I will definetely have some serious test with the heart page. Since I have at least 10 pages and already losing hearts on levels, it will be easy to verify.

I seriously hope we aren't topping at 10 pages. This would make me a sad panda.

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Me too... lord knows how many levels from the first month or two of the game that I've lost, and will never have any way of remembering. I frequently revisit old levels too.

If it is like this, then I'm going to have to prioritize my hearting, which sucks, as I don't only give hearts for levels I plan on playing on a weekly basis, but also for one's I really enjoyed while it was there, want to show a few people, or just think deserve it.

A limit will have me ending up hearting only my absolute favorites, and rarely hearting anything new - I'll just have to start hearting authors only, which will only clutter my author hearts, since I usually only heart authors who have a decent body of work, not one's with ONE great level.
2009-06-26 00:15:00

Author:
Unknown User


Me too... lord knows how many levels from the first month or two of the game that I've lost, and will never have any way of remembering. I frequently revisit old levels too.

If it is like this, then I'm going to have to prioritize my hearting, which sucks, as I don't only give hearts for levels I plan on playing on a weekly basis, but also for one's I really enjoyed while it was there, want to show a few people, or just think deserve it.

A limit will have me ending up hearting only my absolute favorites, and rarely hearting anything new - I'll just have to start hearting authors only, which will only clutter my author hearts, since I usually only heart authors who have a decent body of work, not one's with ONE great level.

Yeah it's really bad. I hope it's not true because I will also priorise my hearting. I'm going to also unheart the levels of great creators and heart them as creators instead because I will need to save some place for level hearts.

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2009-06-26 02:46:00

Author:
RangerZero
Posts: 3901


Well that sucks. They really need to fix this as the game`s only 9(?) months old and most, if not all of us are at the limit already (I have been for months without realising). They can hardly expect us to stop hearting levels.2009-06-26 10:48:00

Author:
Matt 82
Posts: 1096


Well that sucks. They really need to fix this as the game`s only 9(?) months old and most, if not all of us are at the limit already (I have been for months without realising). They can hardly expect us to stop hearting levels.

Sooner or later, a badly designed system falls back on you. Crumbles down.

Personally I already started to save heart space by unhearting all the level from my hearted creators. This way I will maximise an easy access to WAY MORE great levels by adding up both creator pages and hearted pages.

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2009-06-26 15:16:00

Author:
RangerZero
Posts: 3901


Yeah I just unhearted a whole load too. Really annoyed at losing all the early levels though. Especially the ones from Japanese players where there`s no way for me to look them up.2009-06-26 15:22:00

Author:
Matt 82
Posts: 1096


All the talk about prioritizing hearts... isn't that kind of the point of the system? If you could heart a crazy high number of levels, wouldn't it cheapen hearts? Is the hearts system designed with intentional scarcity to try to keep hearts meaningful? I understand that it's inconvenient when you use hearts as a filing system / address book and then some are removed, but you could keep an offline, personal list of levels you might want to play again.

Or, run with this for a minute. Someone could make a website which is a database for all levels, and people could create "playlists" or something there. It's not as easy as just going to your "Hearted Levels" list, but it might be a feasible workaround. It doesn't seem such a site exists, and I'm not sure if this article about a LBP sharing portal (http://www.newsalbum.com/Read/383136-Web-based-LittleBigPlanet-level-sharing-portal-coming-soon/) would replace the functionality of such a database or complement it.

I guess I'm just playing devil's advocate, but what do you guys think?
2009-06-26 15:59:00

Author:
tashi
Posts: 60


All the talk about prioritizing hearts... isn't that kind of the point of the system? If you could heart a crazy high number of levels, wouldn't it cheapen hearts? Is the hearts system designed with intentional scarcity to try to keep hearts meaningful? I understand that it's inconvenient when you use hearts as a filing system / address book and then some are removed, but you could keep an offline, personal list of levels you might want to play again.



I agree, I regularly "clean out" my hearts pages, and really only heart levels I absolutely positively LOVE, or have learned something from! That way I see hearts as being very valuable. But I understand that some other creators might want to heart way more, hearts are very useful as a "bookmarking" system after all.

I was thinking, couldn't the disappearance of hearted levels on your heart pages be due to creators who republish their levels?
2009-06-26 16:08:00

Author:
noddle111
Posts: 174


All the talk about prioritizing hearts... isn't that kind of the point of the system? If you could heart a crazy high number of levels, wouldn't it cheapen hearts? Is the hearts system designed with intentional scarcity to try to keep hearts meaningful? I understand that it's inconvenient when you use hearts as a filing system / address book and then some are removed, but you could keep an offline, personal list of levels you might want to play again.

Or, run with this for a minute. Someone could make a website which is a database for all levels, and people could create "playlists" or something there. It's not as easy as just going to your "Hearted Levels" list, but it might be a feasible workaround. It doesn't seem such a site exists, and I'm not sure if this article about a LBP sharing portal (http://www.newsalbum.com/Read/383136-Web-based-LittleBigPlanet-level-sharing-portal-coming-soon/) would replace the functionality of such a database or complement it.

I guess I'm just playing devil's advocate, but what do you guys think?


Hearts = favorites. Levels I like and want to replay.The best stuff I want to return too. Just like there can be thousands of websites I want to return to, there's thousands of LBP levels I might want to return to. Having a stupid limit in my fav browser (ok, there is one technically but it's so high we don't care) it wouldn't bring much to my browsing experience expect frustrations.

And yeah a database website would be nice. I actually hope the website Media Molecule will be launching could serve such a purpose and not just promoting our levels.

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2009-06-26 17:57:00

Author:
RangerZero
Posts: 3901


What about giving reputation on forums? You can't just +rep everyone you see, right? I actually don't have any idea how that stuff works, but I assume it is limited.

Hearts can function as bookmarks, so if you use them that way, then a cap is totally unreasonable. If, however, you see them as a supplement to the rating system, the cap makes sense.
2009-06-26 18:38:00

Author:
tashi
Posts: 60


Well since it functions as a bookmark feature I`d say it was totally unreasonable.2009-06-26 22:12:00

Author:
Matt 82
Posts: 1096


Or, run with this for a minute. Someone could make a website which is a database for all levels, and people could create "playlists" or something there. It's not as easy as just going to your "Hearted Levels" list, but it might be a feasible workaround. It doesn't seem such a site exists, and I'm not sure if this article about a LBP sharing portal (http://www.newsalbum.com/Read/383136-Web-based-LittleBigPlanet-level-sharing-portal-coming-soon/) would replace the functionality of such a database or complement it.

I guess I'm just playing devil's advocate, but what do you guys think?

sackbook could have easily lead to something like this.

Also... a level doesn't have to be 5 stars ungodly perfection for me to heart it and come back to it. I just have to like it.

Besides... who's to say down the line there won't be more than 10 pages worth of flawless level's like sackboy's inferno episode two, H.A.T.E., The Ancient Castle, Lost Temple of Anubis *cough* False Idols III *cough* etc
2009-06-27 07:46:00

Author:
Unknown User


sackbook could have easily lead to something like this.

Also... a level doesn't have to be 5 stars ungodly perfection for me to heart it and come back to it. I just have to like it.

Besides... who's to say down the line there won't be more than 10 pages worth of flawless level's like sackboy's inferno episode two, H.A.T.E., and The Ancient Castle *cough* False Idols III *cough* etc

I am absolutely positive that we will bust.

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2009-06-27 20:10:00

Author:
RangerZero
Posts: 3901


Maybe the online thing that MM is working on will fix this problem?2009-06-28 03:42:00

Author:
hilightnotes
Posts: 1230


Maybe the online thing that MM is working on will fix this problem?

Yeah that's what I thought. If you can list levels overthere it will totally solve the problem. Kinda like Youtube favorites and whatnot.

I'm not holding my breath though. I don't believe much in Media Molecule community-wise so this website can be anything from great to completely craptacular. We'll see when it's up in 2026.

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2009-06-28 14:11:00

Author:
RangerZero
Posts: 3901


We can't simply assume that MediaMolecule is going to fix every single little problem we have with the next patch they are working on. Every time someone mentions something they would like to see or changed in the next patch, someone else will come along and say, "Well, they are probably working on it with that online patch."

The online create patch is MOST LIKELY NOT going to fix the heart cap, remove any and all lag from the game, fix every bug, make the thermometer bigger, and end world hunger.

What it MOST LIKELY WILL do is add online creating to LittleBigPlanet.
2009-06-28 14:21:00

Author:
BSprague
Posts: 2325


I bet you that 10 pages seemed like a lot when Mm was creating the game. Now it isn't much at all.
I don't see how hard it would be to make the cap larger, I'm sure they'll fix it, whichever patch it will be...
2009-06-28 20:35:00

Author:
crazymario
Posts: 657


Or, run with this for a minute. Someone could make a website which is a database for all levels, and people could create "playlists" or something there. It's not as easy as just going to your "Hearted Levels" list, but it might be a feasible workaround. It doesn't seem such a site exists, and I'm not sure if this article about a LBP sharing portal (http://www.newsalbum.com/Read/383136-Web-based-LittleBigPlanet-level-sharing-portal-coming-soon/) would replace the functionality of such a database or complement it.

I guess I'm just playing devil's advocate, but what do you guys think?
I wouldn't be surprised if the hearting system gets a complete overhaul with the release of the new portal. If they're on about queuing up levels to play via the internet, I find it unlikely that wouldn't include a favouriting system.

Here's the original interview in it's entirety: http://www.1up.com/ (http://www.1up.com/do/feature?cId=3174422)

Quite excited.
2009-07-02 21:45:00

Author:
Kiminski
Posts: 545


One of the issues is that hearts are also used as a mechanism to climb cool pages, so if an author publishes a great level that you want to see succeed, it's IMPERATIVE that it be hearted - as well it helps another player determine whether it's a level worth playing.

Since this is true, what will happen when EVERYONE starts hitting the limit? Will many reasonable players stop giving as many hearts to help levels, which will cause even more garbage to rise to the top of cool pages, leaving good levels behind? Interesting.
2009-07-04 14:35:00

Author:
CCubbage
Posts: 4430


One of the issues is that hearts are also used as a mechanism to climb cool pages, so if an author publishes a great level that you want to see succeed, it's IMPERATIVE that it be hearted - as well it helps another player determine whether it's a level worth playing.

Since this is true, what will happen when EVERYONE starts hitting the limit? Will many reasonable players stop giving as many hearts to help levels, which will cause even more garbage to rise to the top of cool pages, leaving good levels behind? Interesting.

What I am doing personally is now "temporary hearts". This means I leave you a heart for your 7 days on Cool pages.

I also "cleaned" my hearted pages by hearting creators that had at least 2 great levels (de-hearting their levels of course). This way i'm filling both hearted pages and creator pages. This gave me back 4 pages for hearting level and i'm currently using only 2 creator pages!

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2009-07-04 14:58:00

Author:
RangerZero
Posts: 3901


What I am doing personally is now "temporary hearts". This means I leave you a heart for your 7 days on Cool pages.

I also "cleaned" my hearted pages by hearting creators that had at least 2 great levels (de-hearting their levels of course). This way i'm filling both hearted pages and creator pages. This gave me back 4 pages for hearting level and i'm currently using only 2 creator pages!

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Yeah, I'm going to start doing this too - my main concern is the "general" LittleBigPlanet audience who may generously give out hearts to levels they like.

I had a French guy who discovered Starship Troopers suddenly go through all the rest of my levels and put hearts on darn near everything (AND put comments on them - I had to have Takelow translate).

But hey, I supposed everyones in the same boat so no big whoop.
2009-07-06 13:35:00

Author:
CCubbage
Posts: 4430


French is also my mother language. I didn't know Takelow was french! 2009-07-06 15:04:00

Author:
RangerZero
Posts: 3901


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