Archive: 11 posts

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Okay, so I came up with this idea in two seconds, so bear with me as I try and describe it as quickly as I thought of it. Which is impossible. Still, hear me out - what if we had a stats page for every LBPC member to show what their strengths and weaknesses are in their creations? Any LBP member (who has played a level by another member) can vote for what they think that person is really good at, and maybe what needs working on to encourage the creator to adjust and try and make their levels better in a particular area. It could be arranged like this: Graphics and Visuals: 8 (average) Gameplay and Originality: 6 (average) Switches and Complexity: 9 (average) Average Replay Value: :star::star::star::star:/5 Everyone and anyone who is a registered member can vote, I'm not sure if there should be an overall rating because people may then compete and try and gain some sort of authority over another due to how good they are at creating (based on these stats). Would this work? If so what other things may be included? Thank you for reading PS: If you've played a level that has recently been published by a creator and they have improved in a particular area (assuming you've played any of their previous levels), you can change your vote to show that this person has really improved as a creator.

2009-06-19 07:51:00 Author: KoRnDawwg Posts: 1424

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Okay, so I came up with this idea in two seconds, so bear with me as I try and describe it as quickly as I thought of it. Which is impossible. Still, hear me out - what if we had a stats page for every LBPC member to show what their strengths and weaknesses are in their creations? Any LBP member (who has played a level by another member) can vote for what they think that person is really good at, and maybe what needs working on to encourage the creator to adjust and try and make their levels better in a particular area. It could be arranged like this: Graphics and Visuals: 8 (average) Gameplay and Originality: 6 (average) Switches and Complexity: 9 (average) Average Replay Value: :star::star::star::star:/5 Everyone and anyone can vote, I'm not sure if there should be an overall rating because people may then compete and try and gain some sort of authority over another due to how good they are at creating (based on these stats). Would this work? If so what other things may be included? Thank you for reading As much as I'd hate to think about it, I can see people rating someone very low just because they don't like them, or don't like what they created. Again, most of the members here probably wouldn't sink that low, but you can never be sure on the internet. This would also bloat people's egos beyond comprehension, if someone had a 5/5 for stars, with a 10 in almost every category, I'm pretty sure that person would feel far more superior then others. I dunno, it sounds like a really good idea. But I just don't think it would work out too well, not to mention the effort someone would have to go through to get this to work.

2009-06-19 07:55:00 Author: Whalio Cappuccino Posts: 5250

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It might be possible to get a system like this up and running, but I don't want to put the work into it unless I know whether or not you guys will use it. Also, as Whaaaaale also mentioned, there is a high possibility for abuse (this being the internet and all), and I'm not sure we'd be able to police it.

2009-06-19 07:56:00 Author: ConfusedCartman Posts: 3729

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It's not open to just anyone - only registered members can vote, and I do suppose that many, if not all the people here are willing to give honest feedback. Just look within the Level Showcase. I definitely agree that this may cause arrogance and high competition, but I very much doubt that anyone will get 10s in each and every catagory, everyone has a weakness. For instance, if I may take myself as an example, I am terrible in terms of replay value since my levels are rather short, yet people say my visuals are very good, so they would both be rated accordingly (or so I assume). And considering the fact that the many people here (who are good at making levels) are people who are very open to give tips and advice to others, I think there shouldn't be that type of ego bloats around here. If this where to be anywhere else, maybe that would be the case, but people here are actually helpful and modest. I also think that this would inspire people and encourage them to make better, bigger, more epic levels based on their own stats, their weaknesses (as shown by everyone else who have voted) and strengths (which they should keep up). With every level, maybe the creator can ask for their stats to be rated accordingly if necessary, if there are any noticable improvements with any latest installments (I do assume that people get better with experience) and whatnot. I'm having some trouble explaining this as you may have noticed but at the same time, I hope you know what angle I'm coming at. Again, thanks for reading :hero:

2009-06-19 17:57:00 Author: KoRnDawwg Posts: 1424

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What about if you want to vote, you need to give a VALID argument, and your name will show up on the "members that voted for me" page or something. so if someone got a bad rating from someone that gave "your levels suck" or "you suck", he can report that person to a moderator that can infract the person....or something else.... meh

2009-06-19 18:06:00 Author: oldage Posts: 2824

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I see where you're trying to go with this KoRnDawwg, and I agree it could be beneficial, as long as the creator being graded is willing to be graded. Some may not want that. Something to consider...there is a feature already in place that allows members to create threads with a categorical voting option. All that would be required, to accomplish what you are suggesting, is those voting would simply need to state in their post that they voted a particular way, and then provide the reasons for why they voted the way they did. Rick

2009-06-19 18:33:00 Author: RickRock_777 Posts: 1567

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What about if you want to vote, you need to give a VALID argument, and your name will show up on the "members that voted for me" page or something. so if someone got a bad rating from someone that gave "your levels suck" or "you suck", he can report that person to a moderator that can infract the person....or something else.... meh Now that would become a full time job for a moderator if the system takes off. And those cases wont be without discussion. I like the overall idea you are getting at Korn, but I am personally not that interested in it. I don't like the competitive nature of it all. I don't want people to be graded like this and have a score slapped on to them wich people will obviously look at when they release their next levels. For those with lower scores, it would automatically result in less interest in their creations even if the creator has greatly improved since his last effort. It would be a great scoring template to use in the individual showcase threads though!!

2009-06-19 21:19:00 Author: Zwollie Posts: 2173

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May I just say again - registered members only. This is not in defence of the system, but I don't think I made that clear in the original post, "Everyone and anyone" refers to everyone on the forums. Sorry, not to guests, my mistake, I forgot to clarify that @ Oldage - I like that suggestion, of course it would filter out the members here that do just say "Your level sucks", which I hope is nobody here. Maybe it could be so that records of all the people who have voted and are able to change their vote can be accessed by either just the creator (and staff) or by all registered users. That being said, I may as well jump to Zwollie - Scoring system for levels? You know, that actually sounds a lot better. I see your point with creators with lower scores being brushed under the carpet, so I think level scores would be better, I never thought of that, thank you! And as for the mods having their hands full, again, registered members? I cannot imagine the members here going on raves and rating people low for the Hell of it xD @ RickRock - Are you talking about the poll option? Otherwise I'm not sure what you mean, mainly because I'm a complete n00b. I do agree that it should be optional...

2009-06-19 21:55:00 Author: KoRnDawwg Posts: 1424

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And as for the mods having their hands full, again, registered members? I cannot imagine the members here going on raves and rating people low for the Hell of it xD Yeah, that's how I feel about the members here as well but some can always surprise you I guess.... + the fact that you can quickly register and ruin someones score. This is the internet after all

2009-06-19 22:22:00 Author: Zwollie Posts: 2173

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Yeah, that's how I feel about the members here as well but some can always surprise you I guess.... + the fact that you can quickly register and ruin someones score. This is the internet after all Yeah, it's a shame that some people are just n00bs

2009-06-20 21:38:00 Author: KoRnDawwg Posts: 1424

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I think this is a bad suggestion. While I can understand the good intention behind, people do not improve themselves because of such stats. This kind of stats simply turns into recognition and people use them as "E-penis". People with lower stats will not get movitated to get better, they will be pushed down and think they aren't liked over here. Other people will use theses stats to try to put fire into certain things, pointing out favoritism. Other people will use those stats and get so high it will create an elistism movement. Theses stats are a bad idea because LBP is about creativity and for this to flourish you need to remove the more stuff possible that will be used by people for their ego. It better to improve ourselves with level feedback, help each other in the help section, suggest stuff to people. COMMUNICATING. .

2009-06-20 23:38:00 Author: RangerZero Posts: 3901

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