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Image Import Tool TEASED! (New Stuff)

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http://www.ps3attitude.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/1zegrc1.jpg

We spoke to Alex Evans himself and this is precisely what he told us: ?the work is done on the tool, and it just needs to go through QA and then certification.?

With all this evidence stacking up you may be thinking ?Why the conspiracy??. With images now floating around the ?net of the new tool, why would Sony deny it is coming?

Let?s not forget the facts: Alex Evans might be a genius in terms of game design but announcements regarding updates for LittleBigPlanet will also need ratification from SCEE and the other Sony corporation entities.

It's quite possible that Sony did not want this information released so close to a holiday season when some people might be buying the PS Eye purely for the ability to enhance their LittleBigPlanet level creating experience. And, for the record, we don't blame them. They have a business to run and such new information may impact sales of the (fantastic, and we?re not just saying this for the sake of it) PS Eye.

The tool has to go through QA and certification. What if it fails QA? What if Sony can?t certify it for release?

Until an official release date is announced we would like to close this with a simple note: just because something is denied, it doesn?t mean it's not happening. And just because something exists, it doesn?t mean it will ever be released.

Read more: http://www.ps3attitude.com/new/2008/11/lbp-image-import-truth/#ixzz0GT7slmXn&B


That is from ps3attitude.com i took it because i REALLY want this tool!		2009-05-24 23:17:00

Author:
ChocolateBox
Posts: 63

This is probably my most wanted tool. Also with the sticker cutter coming, we will be able to make stickers just like the official ones. :O2009-05-24 23:24:00

Author:
olit123
Posts: 1341

aww jee my lil story i found got onto front page news.2009-05-24 23:32:00

Author:
ChocolateBox
Posts: 63

Wow... I really didn't think they'd ever dare even spend time developing such a tool. There's gonna be a hell of a lotta good grief'd levels if/when this tool comes out.

You give people something useful and they'll abuse it O_o... I just hope for every good grief-ish level, there'll be a hundred beautiful levels that put this tool to good use!

Thanks for teh newz Mr Chocolate 		2009-05-24 23:33:00

Author:
Pitcard
Posts: 779

hehe ty.

Well tbh this would be SO EPIC.

means i can make my own textures in Photoshop.. for my pod..

posters for my wall etc.		2009-05-24 23:34:00

Author:
ChocolateBox
Posts: 63

QA and Certification?

****. That's going to take months

But at least we know it's in the works.
I hope there is support for an alpha channel in the stickers.		2009-05-24 23:57:00

Author:
alexbull_uk
Posts: 1287

Glad to finally hear that there's an Image Import tool, from the source

It's funny how Playstation denied the tool so people could buy more PS Eyes 0.0 		2009-05-25 00:09:00

Author:
Night Angel
Posts: 1214

This would be awesome, but again this is an old pic and news check the date out on the top of the article is says: Submitted by Brodiesan on Wednesday, 5 November 2008...

We have done this pic and news before guys, don't want to be a downer but it seems like its taking a long time in QA and we have 2 other threads on this same picture???


P.S. Sorry for sounding mean but I thought we would have a definite date and then i see its just the same news as months ago.		2009-05-25 00:22:00

Author:
OverWork
Posts: 873

at first i was excited, but then OverWork said it's old

2009-05-25 00:32:00

Author:
RickTheRipper
Posts: 345

Now I fully understand why Mm won the Studio of The Year award at GDC 08

This is superb news beyond compare, the only possible thing that Mm can put in next, is the removal of the "profile is too large" error message

It's for this reason that I cannot store any stickers I receive, and cannot keep the objects I collect		2009-05-25 00:43:00

Author:
Aurongel
Posts: 221

its a really good thing that this is coming out, i wanted this for a long time because the ps eye sucks... sorry Sony but it sucks, and pics i take are horribly lit and resolution is tiny. lol @ pitcards sig XD2009-05-25 01:52:00

Author:
Noremac469
Posts: 143

nice find
i cant wait for this tool to come out		2009-05-25 02:13:00

Author:
Sonic5411
Posts: 712

Please let this happen soon. I've been asking for this tool for months. It's always seemed crazy to me that we can export photos from the game to PS3 but not the other way round which is much more important.

I have to agree with Noremac too. I don't know what sort of PSEye you've got ChocolateBox but mine is the biggest pile of crap ever. It's never taken a decent picture since the day I wasted my money on it and I wish I had taken it straight back for a refund.

Don't suck up to Sony by saying it's great. It isn't,never has been and never will be. If all Sony products were as bad as the PSEye I wouldn't buy anything of theirs ever again.

Sorry if you don't like that but I always speak my mind and tell the truth. I never suck up to anyone.		2009-05-25 03:39:00

Author:
mistervista
Posts: 2210

Thanks Vista. I was swithering about investing in a PSeye but you just came along and convinced me not to. Thanks for helping me dodge a ?60 bullet!

I may start to run all future purchases past you aforehand!		2009-05-25 04:01:00

Author:
Unknown User

This would be awesome, but again this is an old pic and news check the date out on the top of the article is says: Submitted by Brodiesan on Wednesday, 5 November 2008...

We have done this pic and news before guys, don't want to be a downer but it seems like its taking a long time in QA and we have 2 other threads on this same picture???


P.S. Sorry for sounding mean but I thought we would have a definite date and then i see its just the same news as months ago.

Yeah, i remember seeing this a long time ago as well, in many places too, and its been denied already, so we're not getting it, not anytime soon at least.
Just telling you so you don't get your hopes up then get dissapointed for not being released...		2009-05-25 04:41:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707

Please let this happen soon. I've been asking for this tool for months. It's always seemed crazy to me that we can export photos from the game to PS3 but not the other way round which is much more important.

I have to agree with Noremac too. I don't know what sort of PSEye you've got ChocolateBox but mine is the biggest pile of crap ever. It's never taken a decent picture since the day I wasted my money on it and I wish I had taken it straight back for a refund.

Don't suck up to Sony by saying it's great. It isn't,never has been and never will be. If all Sony products were as bad as the PSEye I wouldn't buy anything of theirs ever again.

Sorry if you don't like that but I always speak my mind and tell the truth. I never suck up to anyone.

umm i didnt say i had one..

There rubbish.. so i am never going to buy one.		2009-05-25 08:08:00

Author:
ChocolateBox
Posts: 63

I'd love t have this tol ASAP - but think about things like ice, it was teased - even shown in ealy concepts and yet still nothing
I hope this comes out soon though		2009-05-25 08:30:00

Author:
Coxy224
Posts: 2645

this need to be ture2009-05-25 08:39:00

Author:
jump_button
Posts: 1014

It just sounds like trouble. I just imagine problems with content people will use.

The good thing will be the quality since the PS Eye is always blurry and not many like or use it.

Can't decide if I like the idea or not....I'm fine without it in the game though.		2009-05-25 09:05:00

Author:
Nattura
Posts: 86

Im guessing you meant True by Ture.

I'd love support for my Nikon SLR lol.. 4082xsomething res pics herheheh		2009-05-25 09:05:00

Author:
ChocolateBox
Posts: 63

The only thing holding Media Molecule back is Sony's wanting to sell more Playstation Eye Cameras. I mean, think about it, almost every single person who has ever played LittleBigPlanet would kill to get their hands on an Image Import Tool. Yeah, some might abuse it and perhaps choose to place inappropriate stickers in their levels which would then would probably be good griefed immediately and perhaps further measures would be taken.

But think about how much it would help. I'm pretty sure Media Molecule is dying to get an Image Import Tool into the hands of their fans...They just have to go through Sony to give it to them...		2009-05-25 09:25:00

Author:
Night Angel
Posts: 1214

Im guessing you meant True by Ture.

I'd love support for my Nikon SLR lol.. 4082xsomething res pics herheheh

Haha,
don't think you will be able to make them bigger then the standard LBP-pictures.


I'm dying to have this feature to make some great looking characters. 		2009-05-25 09:36:00

Author:
Zwollie
Posts: 2173

fine then ill just make 100mb 10x10 images .. lol2009-05-25 10:47:00

Author:
ChocolateBox
Posts: 63

I have an eye toy and it churns out alright quality...
from what i've heard it's better then the PS eye!

i want the tool though, would like good quality, not alright quality.		2009-05-25 11:29:00

Author:
MarkoWolfy
Posts: 445

I can think of the bad things people could do but they can do that anyway...

so that shouldnt be a problem..

This will create amazing levels.

An alpha channel compatible importer is what this Will be. as you see in the SS that there developing a meerkat level and that they would need to have alpha to make the relevant stickers.		2009-05-25 11:37:00

Author:
ChocolateBox
Posts: 63

I have an eye toy and it churns out alright quality...
from what i've heard it's better then the PS eye!

i want the tool though, would like good quality, not alright quality.

Aren't they one and the same thing ? I never heard anything about there being 2 different ones. If there are I don't know which mine is. I just thought it was the one and only official Sony camera with a microphone built in.

Oh and ChocolateBox I assumed you must have one because you put this in the original post :

They have a business to run and such new information may impact sales of the (fantastic, and we?re not just saying this for the sake of it) PS Eye.		2009-05-25 11:51:00

Author:
mistervista
Posts: 2210

Aren't they one and the same thing ? I never heard anything about there being 2 different ones. If there are I don't know which mine is. I just thought it was the one and only official Sony camera with a microphone built in.

Oh and ChocolateBox I assumed you must have one because you put this in the original post :

No, no. Eye toy is the PS2 camera, it just works on PS3.
NO mic, but an adjustable focus and better quality.

http://talkbinary.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/ps3eyetoy.jpg
PS Eye

http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/_media/materiel/materiel/eyetoy.jpg
Eye Toy		2009-05-25 11:57:00

Author:
MarkoWolfy
Posts: 445

Oh I see. Thanks Marko. Now i see the pictures of them, mine is the top one. I think i've seen the other one too now you show me what they look like. I may even have one somewhere that's never seen the light of day LOL. I'd completely forgotten about that one.

Anyway the one I am using with the PS3 is the top one and it's still rubbish. The sooner this image import tool comes out the better. I can then consign this to the bin where it belongs.

If it took pictures like the ones you have posted then it wouldn't be a problem.

Thanks for the info.		2009-05-25 12:10:00

Author:
mistervista
Posts: 2210

Oh I see. Thanks Marko. Now i see the pictures of them, mine is the top one. I think i've seen the other one too now you show me what they look like. I may even have one somewhere that's never seen the light of day LOL. I'd completely forgotten about that one.

Anyway the one I am using with the PS3 is the top one and it's still rubbish. The sooner this image import tool comes out the better. I can then consign this to the bin where it belongs.

If it took pictures like the ones you have posted then it wouldn't be a problem.

Thanks for the info.

No problem.

Until this comes out, i'll be using my trusty eye toy! 		2009-05-25 12:11:00

Author:
MarkoWolfy
Posts: 445

umm that post was ripped off of ps3attitude..2009-05-25 12:12:00

Author:
ChocolateBox
Posts: 63

By the way, the EyeToy (PS2) does have a microphone.

Anyway... in all honesty, this sounds awesome, but I'd prefer Ice.		2009-05-25 14:31:00

Author:
alexbull_uk
Posts: 1287

By the way, the EyeToy (PS2) does have a microphone.

Anyway... in all honesty, this sounds awesome, but I'd prefer Ice.

WTF? It does? OMG! awesome, thanks a lot!		2009-05-25 14:36:00

Author:
MarkoWolfy
Posts: 445

Wow, I have a neyetoy but I never even thought it would do anything on LBP - where's the microphone on it?2009-05-25 14:37:00

Author:
Coxy224
Posts: 2645

I'm looking at mine and there isn't one...

I've got the old model of eyetoy.
There was a newer one, that's the one that probably had the mic he was talking about. (i think)
(the newer one was silver)		2009-05-25 14:39:00

Author:
MarkoWolfy
Posts: 445

Welcome to last November! Can you guys check a little bit closely because posting "news" ?

We have no news of this since last November so this basically means we won't have it.

.		2009-05-25 15:42:00

Author:
RangerZero
Posts: 3901

Welcome to last November! Can you guys check a little bit closely because posting "news" ?

We have no news of this since last November so this basically means we won't have it.

.

Great. Now we're stuck with playstation cameras which makes things confusing.		2009-05-25 15:52:00

Author:
MarkoWolfy
Posts: 445

The tools is made and we're going to get it at some point in time. That's all I care about. But pics take up a ton of megs if they're of high quality. But It's going to be awesome for using your own stickers. Levels will never be the same again I think. (Going to create a custom-sticker-bomb-drop-level now)2009-05-25 16:40:00

Author:
BasketSnake
Posts: 2391

when we get image import we'll be able to make our own sticker packs 2009-05-25 16:49:00

Author:
Dexiro
Posts: 2100

Seems we're never going to get it...2009-05-25 17:09:00

Author:
Arkei
Posts: 1432

Umm QandA takes a hell of a long time.. and they are probably looking at August-October release..2009-05-25 17:18:00

Author:
ChocolateBox
Posts: 63

Umm QandA takes a hell of a long time.. and they are probably looking at August-October release..

Nah. For a feature like this i'd say 2 months. Debugging a whole game can be done in 2-3 months. You need to give 2-3 weeks for approval after the debug process.

The problem with the image import is elsewhere. It's not released probably because Sony doesn't want to. Probably they would have needed to reprint the game with a higher rating. Maybe they didn't sort out the possible copyright issues an image import tool would create.

Especially for the land of the suing (America), it's extremly complicated to have such thing as an image import in a videogame. Don't even start to ask yourself why NO game has it before LBP.

They probably focused on other features for the game. If there was no problem with image import we would already have it now.

.		2009-05-25 17:29:00

Author:
RangerZero
Posts: 3901

Ahh but you can do the same with the PSeye...

It's just not top quality.. and u can get high end webcams to work as a pseye		2009-05-25 17:33:00

Author:
ChocolateBox
Posts: 63

Ahh but you can do the same with the PSeye...

It's just not top quality.. and u can get high end webcams to work as a pseye

Yeah but it really really suck with the cam. That's probably why they let it in the game and at the same time it gives an excuse to sell us that useless peripheral. Oh well, I suppose they need to recoup its devellopement

.		2009-05-25 17:37:00

Author:
RangerZero
Posts: 3901

Nonono... I said and they know. You CAN use high end webcams. my mate brought his round that will take 1280x1024 stills at 6mp.

That worked fine..		2009-05-25 17:41:00

Author:
ChocolateBox
Posts: 63

one issue with import is probably cloning the stickers that Mm are trying to sell2009-05-25 18:41:00

Author:
Dexiro
Posts: 2100

Also with the sticker cutter coming, we will be able to make stickers just like the official ones. :O

Wait, where did you hear this? :eek:


There's gonna be a hell of a lotta good grief'd levels if/when this tool comes out.

Actually the numbers might not increase at all. If you think about it, it's a lot quicker and easier to take obscene pictures with the Eye that using a computer to import images to a flash drive to copy to the PS3. But of course, all naughty pictures won't be of that kind.



I hope there is support for an alpha channel in the stickers.

This is a must. It would also be nice to have multiple levels of alpha for semitransparent shading. Actually, I found a gray and white checker pattern that's used as alpha in the game. If you want me to start a thread on it, let me know. I'll think about it and possibly disclose more details.


Mine is the biggest pile of crap ever. It's never taken a decent picture since the day I wasted my money on it and I wish I had taken it straight back for a refund. Don't suck up to Sony by saying it's great. It isn't,never has been and never will be.

A very good point, mistervista. Specs wise the PS Eye isn't any different than the EyeToy other than having 6 microphones. And the EyeToy wasn't that impressive to begin with. USB cameras would be capable of so much more if they were just built for it.


Thanks for helping me dodge a ?60 bullet!

60 pounds?! Holy cow, that's nearly equivalent to $120 in the US! We only pay around $40 or ?20 for our PS Eyes.


fine then ill just make 100mb 10x10 images .. lol

Lol, that would be funny. It's also very possible but lining up all the images seamlessly would be time-consuming and nearly impossible.



An alpha channel compatible importer is what this Will be. as you see in the SS that there developing a meerkat level and that they would need to have alpha to make the relevant stickers.

The SS? Also another piece of news I somehow managed to miss.


one issue with import is probably cloning the stickers that Mm are trying to sell

A very good point Dexiro. Someone could, for example, slap down a mini-pack sticker, take a picture of it, export the image, re-import it, and use it as a prize. MM might write code to detect this and disallow it, but the effort would be far from worth it and the financial loss for MM would be miniscule. Apparently drawing 70 stickers in a $3.99 mini-pack with other content probably equates to less than 2 cents per sticker. 		2009-05-25 20:22:00

Author:
Unknown User

You won't be able to cut out stickers or image you import unless they create a tool for it. The tool they announced is a tool that will cut out MATERIALS all around your sticker. It's just a time saver and pretty useless update if you ask me.

.		2009-05-25 20:30:00

Author:
RangerZero
Posts: 3901

I don't think it would be that useless. Though the tool might follow the pixels and make the edges look really rough...2009-05-25 21:16:00

Author:
Unknown User

If this is coming soon - then good news. Been waiting for this for a long time - along with audio importing. 2009-05-25 21:20:00

Author:
MrManicMan
Posts: 11

audio importing.

that will never happen for two reasons:

1- massive file sizes = more bandwidth stress

2- copyright		2009-05-25 21:35:00

Author:
Aurongel
Posts: 221

Image importing isn't as much as a problem as audio importing

I think Licensing with audio is taken much more seriously than it is with images, I can't be bothered to explain why though
Among other reasons it's because music is sold, while images are usually for free		2009-05-25 22:26:00

Author:
Dexiro
Posts: 2100

I can't wait!!!

Yeah, Audio Importing would be TOTALLY against copyright law in MANY levels, 99.9% of songs are under copyright, and you couldn't even good grief the audio...		2009-05-25 23:02:00

Author:
tjb0607
Posts: 1054

Regarding audio what this game need is some more sound samples and a tracker-like mode where you could simply make songs. Then you save it in those radios and you put them in the levels.

I would rebuy a copy of LBP just for the hell of it since this update would be historically awesome.

.		2009-05-25 23:52:00

Author:
RangerZero
Posts: 3901

This was back in December, wasn't it? Did we jump back in time? xD2009-05-26 00:01:00

Author:
gevurah22
Posts: 1476

that will never happen for two reasons:

1- massive file sizes = more bandwidth stress

2- copyright

Hmmm. Yeah, that's a point. Bloody copyright laws. Ruin everything. 		2009-05-26 00:04:00

Author:
MrManicMan
Posts: 11

If its anything like the image export tool i'm sure the quality will be less than great, i'm a little skeptical on this one, not to mention the fact that it will cut into MMs sticker revenue, call me mr. killjoy but i dont see this one coming anytime soon.2009-05-26 06:48:00

Author:
squishy_squid
Posts: 64

I can't wait there will be so many more themed levels2009-05-26 10:47:00

Author:
robotiod
Posts: 2662

Wow... I really didn't think they'd ever dare even spend time developing such a tool. There's gonna be a hell of a lotta good grief'd levels if/when this tool comes out.

You give people something useful and they'll abuse it O_o... I just hope for every good grief-ish level, there'll be a hundred beautiful levels that put this tool to good use!

Thanks for teh newz Mr Chocolate

You could take bad pictures just as easily if not easier with the ps eye, so I don't think there'll be that much of a change in inappropriate pictures once this tool comes out.

As for the sticker cutter, it doesn't shape stickers, it shapes a material into the shape of a sticker. So you'd have to use one of MM's stickers.

Audio importer? Not happening. Too much trouble can come from it. Maybe if it were MIDI files or something, that'd be one thing.		2009-05-26 11:03:00

Author:
DJLols
Posts: 217

You won't be able to cut out stickers or image you import unless they create a tool for it. The tool they announced is a tool that will cut out MATERIALS all around your sticker. It's just a time saver and pretty useless update if you ask me.

I don't know if I'd call any feature that saves us time a "useless update." As much as I hate to sound cliche, all that time wasted clipping around stickers adds up in the long run.

If you ask me, they've got a lot more work that they need to do, past this feature, to make the game more convenient and user friendly.		2009-05-26 21:06:00

Author:
DarkDedede
Posts: 672

I don't know if I'd call any feature that saves us time a "useless update." As much as I hate to sound cliche, all that time wasted clipping around stickers adds up in the long run.

If you ask me, they've got a lot more work that they need to do, past this feature, to make the game more convenient and user friendly.

Yes hopefully the convenience will be sorted out by the web portal I saw mentioned some where. 		2009-05-27 01:10:00

Author:
rugby200
Posts: 12

Let's get real. This isn't happening. I said it last year and I'm saying it this year: image importing is something that has way too many problems for it to happen. This news article itself shows clearly that they have the tool ready and working, and have done so for over half a year already. They just don't feel like it would fit the game. For one reason or another.2009-05-27 20:34:00

Author:
Linque
Posts: 607

This is a must. It would also be nice to have multiple levels of alpha for semitransparent shading. Actually, I found a gray and white checker pattern that's used as alpha in the game. If you want me to start a thread on it, let me know. I'll think about it and possibly disclose more details.


Yeah, I'd like to know a little bit more about that.
Will you make the thread? Or PM me?


Let's get real. This isn't happening. I said it last year and I'm saying it this year: image importing is something that has way too many problems for it to happen. This news article itself shows clearly that they have the tool ready and working, and have done so for over half a year already. They just don't feel like it would fit the game. For one reason or another.

I disagree entirely. We will get this tool, it's just going to take longer than we expected.		2009-05-28 01:30:00

Author:
alexbull_uk
Posts: 1287

I've been waiting 7 months... thats how old this news is... could not believe it made the front page. The only way it's coming out is if somebody somewhere leaks it... you hear me Alex Evans... I'm talking to you.2009-05-29 04:56:00

Author:
Gravel
Posts: 1308

I've been waiting 7 months... thats how old this news is... could not believe it made the front page. The only way it's coming out is if somebody somewhere leaks it... you hear me Alex Evans... I'm talking to you.

The reason it's up there is because of the new quote from Alex Evans. Sony had denied it up until this point.		2009-05-29 11:31:00

Author:
Killian
Posts: 2575

I'm looking at mine and there isn't one...

I've got the old model of eyetoy.
There was a newer one, that's the one that probably had the mic he was talking about. (i think)
(the newer one was silver)

No, the old one does have a mic.

On the left hand side, next to the blue light, there is a very small hole.

That, my friend, is the mic.		2009-06-05 23:47:00

Author:
alexbull_uk
Posts: 1287


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