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Well, for now the prologue....

i have finally unlocked everything, almost got all gold in everything.. and i bought the F1 car. Which i then used on high speed ring to set a time of 49.782, which is 505th in the world =]

So anyone else ahve it? what are your fastest times, favourite cars etc.?		2009-03-30 23:14:00

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Unknown User

I got it but I never grinded the cash needed to have all the cars. I think I miss a couple of medals too.
I got bored. They promised updates and its dead in the water. Oh well, at least we'll play GT5 in 2026.

.		2009-03-31 04:22:00

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RangerZero
Posts: 3901

2026!! O_O...........that early????

I loved how relaxed a racing game this was.......but there's just not enough interest for me. I really hope they'll have it sorted in the full game. Plus they better allow HDD music. And have a proper online without ghosty twitchy cars ruining you by spawning right beside you >_>		2009-03-31 23:09:00

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Pitcard
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I haven't got GT5 prolouge. I'm waiting until GT5 comes out. When and if it ever comes out. From what I've seen of it so far it looks like it's gonna be awesome.2009-04-05 10:36:00

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lk9988
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I haven't got GT5 prolouge. I'm waiting until GT5 comes out. When and if it ever comes out. From what I've seen of it so far it looks like it's gonna be awesome.

It's the very incarnation of awesomeness but it seems like health care tech will need to evolve quite a bit more so the average lifetime of men increase enough for me to be able to play it at release...

.		2009-04-06 06:44:00

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RangerZero
Posts: 3901

Oh yeah I remember GT5 back when it came out.

Let's see... I built my racing cockpit last spring, and golded everything using my racing wheel. I don't think I could do it again with the controller.

The F1 car is sweet, but I had to turn the force feedback WAAAAY down on my wheel, it was exhausting trying to arm wrestle the wheel driving it.

So, I've got all 71 cars. Haven't checked out if they've updated the game since about August.		2009-04-07 21:27:00

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Thegide
Posts: 1465

there are 3 cars that i just got, but i only just got another update thats ben out for ages, it included the Ferarri California...2009-04-07 22:37:00

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Unknown User

If only the did update AT LEAST "friend races" I would have played this game way much more and probably would have grinded the cash for all the cars (winning constantly against my buddies ;P)

.		2009-04-07 22:57:00

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RangerZero
Posts: 3901

I thought about getting prologue and was like 40 bucks for a glorified beta....? But then I realized I paid 40 bucks for socom confrontation, which is a glorified online beta.

Is prologue worth it? Im a pretty casual gamer, how many hours do you see me getting out of it?

By casual i mean if theres license tests i'd be happy with all bronzes, and never feel compelled to try any better.

Also, trophies?		2009-04-09 21:02:00

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HalfaSack
Posts: 214

No license tests, no trophies, only a pretty short offline "career", some five tracks and seventy cars.

The thing to get the game for is online, actually. Racing online can be tremendous, huge fun, but you need to be rather good at it to be able to compete with the people that know how to race. Those that aren't very good will simply try to ram you off the road. They usually - but unfortunately not always - stick to the easier races though. (Online races are held in "standard" or "professional" setting for the physics simulation - if you value polite track manners you should by all means choose the latter.)		2009-04-09 21:25:00

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tameturtle
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I personally have quite the opposite opinion. The online in this "prologue" (huuuuge demo) is like the worse online mode to ever grace a videogame.
There's no lobby, you can't chose with who you race, you can't even chose are are your race parameters. Also, the people generally play rubbish and like it was bumper cars and not racing. It really is the worse aspect of the game BY FAR.

The single player though it what is interesting. There's like 10 tracks, 70 cars to get and 40+ races/cups to complete and win a medal on. You totally can spend around 10-15 maybe 20 hours on the single player alone ---- wich is the time you spend already on ALOT of 60$ games.

Think about it...

.		2009-04-10 15:25:00

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RangerZero
Posts: 3901

@rangerzero - might wanna edit out the language in that post?2009-04-10 16:57:00

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Unknown User

Took me forever to find the word you were probably hinting me about.

.		2009-04-10 20:03:00

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RangerZero
Posts: 3901

so you did - i should have maybe worded it better, sorry...2009-04-10 20:07:00

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Unknown User

Did everyone see the trailer this year at e3, damage finally shown off (for the briefest of moments), plus a WRC licence and a licence for this series you yanks have that involves a billion cars going in a circle.

I cannot wait!		2009-06-20 18:28:00

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mcgrory1991
Posts: 49

It has got like 200 people and is Polyphony's most expensive game to develop to date.2009-06-20 23:11:00

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creelers
Posts: 275

Did everyone see the trailer this year at e3, damage finally shown off (for the briefest of moments), plus a WRC licence and a licence for this series you yanks have that involves a billion cars going in a circle.

I cannot wait!

Yeah it's nice we had a glimpse. Watch out for next show in Leipzig next month and then at the TGS in September. It will be a blowout of info + I bet we'll get a release date.
Kaz himself said the game is in a state where it's ready to release. It's just that they continue to add to it and polish it until it will be the right time to launch it. With Forza 3 this October and since it made more of a blast than GT5 at last E3, you can bet you'll be playing GT5 before years end. (at least in America and Japan)

.		2009-06-20 23:57:00

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RangerZero
Posts: 3901

Yeah, it seems more realistic this we could see it for this Christmas, and that could mean real good sales of the poor PS3 hardware of which I am such an admirer.

Another stinkingly amazing statistic, the amount of polygons to make an entire car in GT4 now only constitutes a headlamp in GT5, now thats serious polygons!

Plus they have made the cars out of individual parts that are glued together by the PS3, so crash damage can be very realistic!		2009-06-21 00:28:00

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mcgrory1991
Posts: 49

Crash damage *can* be realistic in it yes, but that depends entirely on how many car comapnies allow their cars to be destroyed... Forza had very limited damge in F2 because car companies didn't want their cars to look bad, now in F3 it has full damage and roll over physics etc. I'm not really sure if GT will get *full* damage in GT5 or if they will have to wait until GT6 in like 30 years....2009-06-22 10:42:00

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Unknown User

The visuals in Gran Turismo 5 were absolutely stunning in the E3 2009 trailer. I don't think any other game will achieve that level of photorealism for quite awhile. There is no wondering why it is taking them so long to get this out. They are simply perfecting a masterpiece.2009-06-22 11:14:00

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BSprague
Posts: 2325

Yes, and that's why it makes me even more livid when I read "GT sux, u cant ev3n crash in it and no lamborgeeneez, Forza FTW!!!!11" on message boards.

I hope enough braindead Forza fanatics get a chance to see GT5 in person and play to realise how pitiful Forza is.

And I have to agree I am worried about damage, some people are saiyng it might only be in WRC and NASCAR modes so as to make the damage permission easier.

And seriously, how pathetic is that anyway, you can't crash a car that doesn't exist, because it will look bad. STFU manufacturers!		2009-06-22 15:00:00

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mcgrory1991
Posts: 49

Yes, and that's why it makes me even more livid when I read "GT sux, u cant ev3n crash in it and no lamborgeeneez, Forza FTW!!!!11" on message boards.

I hope enough braindead Forza fanatics get a chance to see GT5 in person and play to realise how pitiful Forza is.
!

Complaining about Forza fanboys? lol. I get the impression you are a T fanboy, how are you any different from them? Don't call me a forza fanboy, i started this thread, i have played every GT game and every Forza game, and i don't deny GT is good.

Any particular reason Forza is so pitiful?		2009-06-22 17:04:00

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Unknown User

I wasn't sure whether I will buy this or not until I saw that they seemingly have the WRC licence and since it looks like no one else is trying to make proper rally game I may just buy GT5.

I wish Evolution Studios would make a real rally game again.		2009-06-22 18:12:00

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Syroc
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Complaining about Forza fanboys? lol. I get the impression you are a T fanboy, how are you any different from them? Don't call me a forza fanboy, i started this thread, i have played every GT game and every Forza game, and i don't deny GT is good.

Any particular reason Forza is so pitiful?

The selection of cars is poor, it has all the classic main cars, but if I want a some 60's Alfa Romeo or something, I'm out of luck.

Also I just find the games graphics horrible, I am spoiled with the 60fps in GT, and it just feels slow in Forza.

The handling is something else, why no matter what you do, do you come off at every corner, you need to basically slow down to a crawl to get round corners, and I am no racing game noob!		2009-06-22 23:41:00

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mcgrory1991
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The selection of cars is poor, it has all the classic main cars, but if I want a some 60's Alfa Romeo or something, I'm out of luck.

Also I just find the games graphics horrible, I am spoiled with the 60fps in GT, and it just feels slow in Forza.

The handling is something else, why no matter what you do, do you come off at every corner, you need to basically slow down to a crawl to get round corners, and I am no racing game noob!

You need to slow down yes, it's called breaking. You don't need to slow down to a crawl, unless you suck at it. The graphics on F3 are almost as good as GT5, and it runs at 60 fps....

And i don't play it to find an old Alfa and drive around slowly, i want good cars that i can have competitive races in.

Speaking of which, the GT5 prologue has horrible ai. They don't try to overtake you unless you go off, even at the hardest difficulty. And GT's online will not compare, just because of the PSnetwork being nowhere near as good as XBL. You can't even invite friends to chat/games ffs.

And you keep telling me you are no racing noob and i am, and also calling me a forza fanboy, but as far as i can tell it's the other way round, i readily admit GT is good, but having played both games i feel Forza is a better sim. You don't have ANYTHING good to say about Forza, and you seem to be in love with Polphony.		2009-06-23 00:02:00

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Unknown User

Sounds like you have no interest in cars outside gaming.

As I specifically made out, I am not a racing game noob. Don't ******* patronize me by saying brake, and yes that's brake, not break...

You don't want to drive an old Alfa, yeah that's you, that;s the Forza fan, that's the kind of person I stipulated, that supports Forza because it has all the fast cars. Gran Turismo has all the enthusiast cars, like the DeLorean, it was a piece of garbage, but it's there, and it has many fans including me, and I for one loved being able to drive the car in the game. It wasn't the fastest, I didn't win any races with it, but I loved just driving round Circuit de la Sarthe in it.

Your so harsh on PSN, it's free, so in my consoles 5-6 year lifespan (something the 360 doesn't understand, seeing as it thinks it's only supposed to last 18 months before showing you some lovely red lights), I won't be spending enough money for another ******* console! You can invite friends to games, ever played Motorstorm 2?

I have not said at any point you are the racing game noob, I am just saying you don't appreciate Gran Turismo.

I am in love with Polyphony, I have been playing Gran Turismo since I was 7, so obviously I have some soft spot for it.

All I have ever tried to put down on the table is that Gran Turismo in terms of detail and number of cars available, no matter how insignificant, has always been the best out there. I could care less for damage when the cars look so great without it, but now damage has come, and the physics will be lovely I imagine.

No matter what we argue about, Gran Turismo will become one of the biggest selling games for the PlayStation ever, if not of all time, seeing as it consistently tops PS games sales lists, second only to GTA titles.		2009-06-23 00:30:00

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mcgrory1991
Posts: 49

Sounds like you have no interest in cars outside gaming.


Really? i've been going to Formula 1 races around the world since i was 3, so that is 13 years. I watch every BTCC race live or on tv. I watch WTCC, GPP2, Formula Renault, Formula BMW, Porsche Supercup etc. Maybe you don't count that as interested in cars? Don't assume things unless you know for sure.

Of course i want to race racing cars, that's the point of a racing game.

And yes, GT will become one of the biggest selling PS games. Forza won't be one of the biggest selling Xbox games. But that's because more games sell more on 360, not because forza is bad.		2009-06-23 11:07:00

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Unknown User

That makes absolutely no sense, if Forza was so good then surely it would be one of the best sellers for the 3*****ty, you can't just say well there are more bestsellers, if it's so good it would be one of these bestsellers.

Can I just quickly add that the tables are turning now, the PS3 has a lot of good exclusives under its belt, with more to come! The 360 has not really given any good exclusives as of late, Gaylo Wars...please, how the hell did they think a geek game like that would steal the thunder from Killzone 2.

Enough of my fanboy rant though, and yes I am a fanboy, I won't pretend I'm not.

100% fair enough on me getting pwned with car enthusiast stuff, but we disagree of the order of importance of cars. I have had no fun playing TOCA Race Driver games because the cars don't appeal to me. I have had lots of fun playing GT because I can buy a Subaru Justy and work my way up, browsing cars just as I could in real life and buying one that takes my fancy, not just being forced to drive an Aston Martin from the word go.		2009-06-23 13:41:00

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mcgrory1991
Posts: 49

I think I'm getting interested in GT5 again, it looks like it'll be a pretty amazing racing sim. so many possibilities...2009-06-23 18:48:00

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Foofles
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That makes absolutely no sense, if Forza was so good then surely it would be one of the best sellers for the 3*****ty, you can't just say well there are more bestsellers, if it's so good it would be one of these bestsellers.

Can I just quickly add that the tables are turning now, the PS3 has a lot of good exclusives under its belt, with more to come! The 360 has not really given any good exclusives as of late, Gaylo Wars...please, how the hell did they think a geek game like that would steal the thunder from Killzone 2.

Enough of my fanboy rant though, and yes I am a fanboy, I won't pretend I'm not.

100% fair enough on me getting pwned with car enthusiast stuff, but we disagree of the order of importance of cars. I have had no fun playing TOCA Race Driver games because the cars don't appeal to me. I have had lots of fun playing GT because I can buy a Subaru Justy and work my way up, browsing cars just as I could in real life and buying one that takes my fancy, not just being forced to drive an Aston Martin from the word go.

Fair enough - we disagree on the order of importance - i want racing cars (being a racing enthusiast) so getting them from the start is more important to me. My reasoning for it not being a bestseller is taht the number of people who buy crappy games on 360 due to the hype is much higher, and there are more people who buy the games. All the kids who buy CoD4/5/6 and halo etc. have no interest in any of the games like Forza - they can't play them and they don't want to. So in comparison to those, it won't sell nearly as many. It will still sell a lot though 		2009-06-24 00:11:00

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Unknown User

What's cool in Forza is how you can paint your cars however you want and you can even auction them off to others.

I wonder if we'll be able to do something like that in GT5?		2009-06-24 03:12:00

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Foofles
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What's cool in Forza is how you can paint your cars however you want and you can even auction them off to others.

I wonder if we'll be able to do something like that in GT5?

It's in the planned features but we'll have to wait for an info blowout to see if it will make the final game.

.		2009-06-24 08:47:00

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RangerZero
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Cool! ... I want a Foof-mobile lol2009-06-24 17:19:00

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Foofles
Posts: 2278

I didn't get prologue, still waiting for the full game.

Better be worth it, but as I've learned, some things just aren't worth the wait 		2009-06-24 19:44:00

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ARD
Posts: 4291

Other are, though. ; )2009-06-24 19:52:00

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Syroc
Posts: 3193

I didn't get prologue, still waiting for the full game.

Better be worth it, but as I've learned, some things just aren't worth the wait

The higher the expectations the higher your chance of deception. Be cool and realistic and your life will improve

.		2009-06-25 18:12:00

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RangerZero
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Hmmm... I'm kinda interested in the game. I realised kinda recently that I actually really like racing games. Loved Jak X though that's a combat racer... also love Wipeout on the PSP and HD and the Burnout games. I've never played a GT game though... even though I've never really owned a non-Sony console (since the PS1 anyway).

I may get it but I don't know if it would hold my attention. I'm not really a car fan at all, I just play them for a good time and not for the appreciation of the cars. Though I do like cool old cars even it's just the look of them. Made me smile when I saw a DeLorean parked in a random car park last year. And I'm becoming more interested in cars as time goes on. And I guess I wouldn't mind knowing more about cars just so I'll know what the hell is going on when people start talkin about cars.

As it's a sim and not so much a racer I don't know how much I'd like it but I may try it out. As I said I've never played a GT game so maybe I'll love it. And I'm assuming that it is kind of a racer anyway. Hope there'll be a demo.		2009-06-26 16:40:00

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Burrich
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As it's a sim and not so much a racer I don't know how much I'd like it but I may try it out. As I said I've never played a GT game so maybe I'll love it. And I'm assuming that it is kind of a racer anyway. Hope there'll be a demo.

Sim racers are an acquired taste imo. You can totally devellop interest, who knows?

.		2009-06-27 01:01:00

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RangerZero
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Personally, i think sim racers are more fun than arcade ones, if you get into them - for example on F1, Forza or GT i find it much more satisfying and fun to do a perfect quick lap and hit every apex etc. than i do smashing a car up in burnout or doing a flip in somthing else.... And a good overtaking move in a sim online, especially against friends? Brilliant.2009-06-27 02:02:00

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Unknown User

YouTube - Gran-Turismo 5's tribute to 458 Italia

They sure are good at rendering stuff. 		2009-09-22 17:06:00

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Syroc
Posts: 3193

New video, new car.
YouTube - ????86???!???????? ? FT-86 ????? (???)		2009-10-06 21:01:00

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Syroc
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Oh well. Have fun waiting for a few more years for this, i'll be playing Forza 3 in 12 days 2009-10-11 01:04:00

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Unknown User



/wants a 360		2009-10-11 10:07:00

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Syroc
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Oh well. Have fun waiting for a few more years for this, i'll be playing Forza 3 in 12 days
what did I tell you 		2009-10-11 11:00:00

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oldage
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Oh well. Have fun waiting for a few more years for this, i'll be playing Forza 3 in 12 days

I believe its coming out next year. Silly.		2009-10-11 13:15:00

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creelers
Posts: 275

I believe its coming out next year. Silly.
I believe he was making a joke. 		2009-10-11 14:37:00

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BSprague
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I can't wait for GT5 to come out...

in 2012. *runs*

EDIT: I just realized how incredibly naive and optimistic that made me sound... It'll probably be closer to 2020. *nods*		2009-10-11 15:36:00

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dandygandy2704
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@Oldage, see the above post to prove my point

It's a well known fact that Gran Turismo NEVER comes out within a year of when they claim it will lol.

It's also a fact that at 15 minutes past midnight i will be playing Forza motorsport 3 a week on thursday 		2009-10-11 18:25:00

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Unknown User

I think the fact that Forza 3 will come out sometime before the sounding of the seventh trump gives it a slight advantage over Gran Tourismo. GT is still the racing simulator, though.2009-10-11 18:29:00

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dandygandy2704
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I don't think it is the racing simulator anymore.

By all accounts, forza has overtaken it in everything apart form graphics, and it is close in that department also. Polyphony Digital have been resting on their laurels, they ahve a LOT of work to do.		2009-10-11 18:30:00

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Unknown User

*shrugs* It doesn't really affect me either way, I prefer arcade racers. I'm just here to stir up some Xbox hate. (Not really)

You have to admit that graphically GT5 will surely be one of the most beautiful games ever. I mean, when I played the prologue the first time, I was pretty sure that they had footage of actual cars. And then I cried a bit, it was so beautiful.		2009-10-11 18:37:00

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dandygandy2704
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Oh yeah, there is no denying that GT5 looks AMAZING.

But for racing sims, Forza > GT5		2009-10-11 19:03:00

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Unknown User

With games so close in so many aspects, it's more of an opinion than under normal circumstances. I grew up on the Gran Turismo series, so that's what I'll stick to, what I know. 2009-10-11 19:06:00

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BSprague
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I'm with BSprague on this one. But IMO, Burnout>all.2009-10-11 19:07:00

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dandygandy2704
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I don't care much for driving games but I love burnout paradise. I'm very disappointed the driving force GT wheel I got for christmas isn't supported in burnout. But I got into GT 5 prologue and I'm having a blast.2009-12-26 21:05:00

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BasketSnake
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Yeah, Paradise = best driving game ever

And my wheel works with it, so hah.		2009-12-26 21:51:00

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ARD
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I found out my wheel totally supports burnout and I've been having a blast playing it. I remember playing the hell out of gran turismo 1 on the ps1 with a friend. We'd use the skyline all the time. Good memories. Now with the new official GT wheel I'm watching youtube drifting vids and totally getting back into GT. Gotta say though..burnout with the wheel is so much fun. Arcadey all the way!2010-01-04 08:49:00

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BasketSnake
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I actually find it easier to control the bikes with the wheel than the cars on Paradise 2010-01-04 17:34:00

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ARD
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Been trying to learn how to drift in GT5 prologue for a few hours today. I haven't been able to properly do it yet. Still fun though.2010-01-04 18:11:00

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BasketSnake
Posts: 2391

It's really easy if you download the GT Academy demo and turn of the traction control of the tuned 370z. Even with a controller.

I blame you Basket that I'm actually considering buying a steering wheel again.		2010-01-04 18:21:00

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Syroc
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I've never tried with the traction control off until now and even without tweaking the other settings its much easier. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y236pp2O7UA2010-01-05 19:29:00

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BasketSnake
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UPDATE!!

new confirmed stuff:

- Damage on all cars (even more on race cars)
- Dynamic weather
- Night racing on all tracks
- Youtube HD upload
- 16 players online
- Indy car series with cars and tracks
- Head tracking with the PSeye
- Multi output supported (play with 3 screens)

also, the amazing official boxart:

http://i46.tinypic.com/152i9ax.jpg

March for Japan is the only date we have so far though.

.		2010-01-06 18:13:00

Author:
RangerZero
Posts: 3901

I can't wait! The only game that makes driving a Vauxhall Corsa seem cool lol. Damage on cars is gonna be EPIC and I know GT well enough to know that its gonna look nicer an actual car lol2010-01-06 18:29:00

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Draden6436
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Brand new video at Joystiq (http://www.joystiq.com/2010/01/06/gran-turismo-5-is-real-enough-for-box-art/) too...2010-01-06 19:50:00

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supersickie
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I pray I'll be better at drifting a rallycar because I can NOT get a proper drift in the high speed rings.2010-01-06 22:58:00

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BasketSnake
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Brand new video at Joystiq (http://www.joystiq.com/2010/01/06/gran-turismo-5-is-real-enough-for-box-art/) too...

I love how the video mixes real life and the game. I bet many people won't get wich is wich.

.		2010-01-07 01:00:00

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RangerZero
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I finished the A class and get to fine tune cars now. Not that I have a clue about what I'm doing. I think the basic presets are fine for me. It's the other settings like traction control and physics type and tires that have the most impact.2010-01-07 02:54:00

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BasketSnake
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Has anyone tried the F1 car in the prologue? The handling looks just...wierd... IT doesn't look like it's actually turning properly, it just sorta slides the front end around corners... Doesn't look like there is any grip at all....2010-01-07 11:40:00

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Unknown User

I'll have to try Burnout Paradise with the wheel, I've had the game sat there months and only played it for 10 mins.2010-01-07 12:48:00

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GruntosUK
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At least they are spending their time on making it look even prettier (http://www.playstationuniversity.com/new-gt5-footage-shows-improved-detail-and-textures-2483/)2010-02-13 18:25:00

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Syroc
Posts: 3193

They should spend time on the handling model.2010-02-13 19:16:00

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Unknown User

I thought that was great in the Time Trial demo. 2010-02-13 19:46:00

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Syroc
Posts: 3193

They should spend time on the handling model.

??? that's the single most advanced of all aspects of the game (unless maybe car models). Unless I don't get what you means exactly gy handling model.		2010-02-13 20:46:00

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RangerZero
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It feels way to... slidey.

The cars all have massive understeer, or they just slide mid-corner, which is stupid. They feel almost 'floaty'. And the F1 car? wtf is up with that, you turn and how the wheels go has absolutely no bearing on what the car does. It just doesn't feel like driving a car. Especially not the racing.

Which is another area that needs work over the graphics, i have never once been re-passed by the AI, unless i have gone off from the stupid handling model?

And why can i adjust the aero settings on a stock Min Cooper? They have no adjustable aero parts on them....		2010-02-14 04:14:00

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Unknown User

There's understeer more than reality for sure. But in a racing game you don't have much choice unless you really don't want to game to be forgiving in anyway. At the speed we are driving and as rough as we are with a joystick, 99% of people would simply lose control and the game would be zero fun.
Right now Prologue is having like the best handling model ever in a racing game except may IRacing on PC but then again, I can't confirm as I didn't play that one yet. It's just "the talk" on the internet. Taking the different cars and taking the turn at realistic speed gives quite the expected result really.
So even if it's not reality but still a videogame (that will never reproduce real life perfectly anyways), I wonder wich racing game you're playing or enjoying if you think the best ones needs work...		2010-02-14 05:09:00

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Recently got shift. I like it a lot. Prologue isnt that bad with steering aids on. Burnout just rocks.2010-02-14 09:13:00

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prologue was good, lets hope 5 will be even better.2010-02-14 09:22:00

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There's understeer more than reality for sure. But in a racing game you don't have much choice unless you really don't want to game to be forgiving in anyway. At the speed we are driving and as rough as we are with a joystick, 99% of people would simply lose control and the game would be zero fun.
Right now Prologue is having like the best handling model ever in a racing game except may IRacing on PC but then again, I can't confirm as I didn't play that one yet. It's just "the talk" on the internet. Taking the different cars and taking the turn at realistic speed gives quite the expected result really.
So even if it's not reality but still a videogame (that will never reproduce real life perfectly anyways), I wonder wich racing game you're playing or enjoying if you think the best ones needs work...

I'm playing and enjoying Forza 3, which is by far more realistic than this. It doesn't require understeer to stop the game being too forgiving, understeer doesn't make it less forgiving. The inability to turn a lotus Elise in makes the game stupid, not harder. If they think that to make it challenging, all cars understeer, then they are stupid. A Lotus will turn in a hell of a lot better than a lot of cars, lets say a BMW M5 for now. I could destroy them on the turns, but they would be way faster on the straights, which balances the race out. If both understeer, then the BMW wins.

If they want to be 'The ultimate driving sim' then they should be making it as real as possible, not adding understeer for challenge. That's what they should make the AI harder for. Which also needs improving.

Forza has a better handling model, cars act as they should, all of them have their own feel, and the cars react to bumps in the road better. On GT, if i ever run wide, i barely notice the kerbs at all, whereas in Forza, in a race i was doing last night for the Forza Le Mans series, i was on Sebring for 3 and a half hours, and all the different kerbs impact the cars differently. Some of them you can run over on the edge of the track, keep your speed etc. but some of them, like one coming out of a mid-speed right hander, has a nasty bump in it, which throws the car off balance, losing you time. I was following someone closely through there, they hit the kerb wrong, spun back across the track, and smashed the wall. That's what would happen, as has been shown many times on that corner at Sebring the the ALMS.

If you think that making GT more realistic would make it impossible for 99% of the population, then either you are rubbish, or 99% of the population are stupid.		2010-02-14 12:43:00

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With a joystick you have ALOT less precision than with a wheel. The way we move the joystick in a game would result in such a wheel hit in real life that chances you'd lose control of the car. All racing games including Forza3 prevents you to put yourself out this way. Their solution is a combination of adding understeer and actually blocking the wheel angle depending the speed to you race at. The faster you go, the smaller the angle at wich you can turn your wheel is.

I also thing GT5 Prologue is better in the driving model than Forza3 but that could be an eternal debate as there's some subjectivity to it. GT5 Prologue corresponds more to a feeling that I have with cars in real life. Forza is the next big thing though. By the way, I don't know if you tried to Time Trial contest demo but you can witness some great improvements on the driving model. Now the cockpit and sounds represents the bumps and imperfection way more that before (and more than in Forza 3) and you can feel exactly what's happening with the traction. The demo put you in "pro physics" though and makes things too hard and unrealistic much if you don't use a wheel.		2010-02-14 17:07:00

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