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I just want to say..... I ENJOYED KILLING YOU ALL. ESPECIALLY ROCK, OH HOW SCREAMED LIKE A LITTLE SCHOOL GIRL!

http://th00.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2013/022/6/6/red_the_blood_of_angry_men_by_xxroflnesshaxx-d5sch3r.jpg

2013-07-29 01:52:00

Author:
RockSauron

Posts: 10882

Here's something I drew up to heighten the suspense for you guys.

http://i.imgur.com/psQmRAs.png

2013-07-29 02:33:00

Author:
Dragonvarsity

Posts: 5208

Here's something I drew up to heighten the suspense for you guys.

http://i.imgur.com/psQmRAs.png

... Why can't I rep this?

2013-07-29 02:37:00

Author:
RockSauron

Posts: 10882

Hey guys, I'm back. Kalawishis and gdn, I'm glad you chose to believe me. But you had probably figured it out on your own already, so I'll stop patting myself on the back.

I'm very sad to see they got Kala, though. I was hoping the mafia would target the person the doctor chose to protect, preventing any more civilian casualties. He will be mourned and his heroic efforts will be remembered.

gdn... let's finish this, once and for all.

I vote... CogMonkey. *cocks shotgun*

Dragonvarsity: That's awesome. I wish I could thank your post.

2013-07-29 08:40:00

Author:
SnipySev

Posts: 2452

I really want to thank Dragon's post.

2013-07-29 09:44:00

Author:
Ryan86me

Posts: 1909

That picture is easily the best thing I have ever seen and if I am doomed to be lynched today, can die happy now that I have seen that. But that doesn?t mean I?m just going to roll over and let the mafia win, so I?m going to spend far too much time going back through the thread on an evidence-gathering mission to make sure I?m not going crazy with my suspicions of Snipy.

Basically the outcome of the game is down to gdn now. Unless he is the last mafioso and he has fooled us both. But I believe that SnipySev is an evil mafia man and he is framing me good and proper. Gdn, don't listen to Snipy. He knows exactly what he?s doing. I never noticed him being suspicious earlier on in the game but over the last couple of days he has completely blown his cover.

Way back on the first day, Snipy voted for jarreguin. We now know that jarreguin is mafia, so surely that suggest that Snipy is innocent? No. At that point, only Rock and flamingemu had been voted for. Snipy voted for jarreguin early on because he knew that, in the event of jarreguin being killed first, he could refer back to the first day and say ?look! I voted for a mafioso! I?m a good guy!?, which is exactly what he has done. Snipy was the first to vote for jarreguin, maybe he wouldn?t have done if jarreguin already had a few votes. But at the time when he voted, it looked like jarreguin would be safe.

Later on the first day, when I said it was suspicious that Rock was acting very un-warlord-like, Snipy was quick to point out:

Because behaving like a warlord in a game where everyone could be out to get you in a matter of minutes is a good way to screw yourself up.

I have to admit though, it's not very reassuring that Rock was choosing who to vote on at random. What the hell man.

This is very clever. By stating that acting like an evil warlord may not be a good idea in a game like this, he hinted that he thought my suspicions were unfounded. He knew that Rock was not mafia and wanted to make sure that if he needed to, he could play the ?I never suspected Rock! You guys are all mafia for voting for him!? card if Rock died first. The clever part of this post is that with the second sentence he suggested that Rock?s voting behaviour was ?not very reassuring? - a likely attempt to place doubt in our minds without explicitly saying ?Rock must be mafia?.

Later, once jarreguin had a majority vote, Snipy realised that his plan to prove his innocence was backfiring and it was looking likely that one of his team would be voted out straight away. Once it looked like jarreguin was going, Snipy decided to come up with a reason to vote for him, rather than just the ?seems very anxious? non-evidence he used initially. After stating his suspicions for jarreguin, Snipy happily jumped on the bandwagon and voted for Qwerty, without giving a reason, after already commenting on Rock?s random voting. Bit hypocritical, no?

Qwerty and Ali die. Morning breaks on day 2. Snipy welcomes the new day with:

I love the smell of being alive in the morning.

As if there was any probability of him not surviving the night. The only way he could have died was by the serial killer, but let?s not dwell on that. Snipy then pondered if Ali was killed because he had correctly suspected some mafia members. Kato pointed out that he had a more recent list, but Snipy chose to ignore this because he was on one of Kato?s lists, and was one of the ?unsure? members in his newest list. Very convenient.

Now, we know that Mateos was the private investigator. Obviously, the PI only operates at night so he could not have known anything on the first day. After the first night, however, Mateos voted for SnipySev. Only Mateos knows whether or not he learned anything that night but he made a good argument for Snipy?s mafianess. Snipy quickly responded by calling BS on Mateos. And in the past, I have found Mateos?s long posts to be a little odd. But since his identity was revelaed I think it would be foolish not to listen to him. Notice how argumentative and quick to defend himself Snipy becomes, just like he has been with me over the last couple of days.

Soon after comes one of the posts from Rock that caused so much upset with Snipy when I mentioned it:

FYI, a smart mafia would vote for each other in order to get the heat of each other's backs, so you can't assume because they voted for each other that they aren't both mafia.

?A smart mafia?. That?s exactly what I believe Snipy to be.

Day 3. Snipy quickly starts gaining votes. Having not paid enough attention to recent happenings, I ask ?Why is everyone voting for snipysev??. Maybe if I had been watching what was going on, I would have realised sooner the truth about Snipy and I wouldn?t have to make this massive post to try to salvage the game.

Then we get to the ?Kato is/isn?t the doctor? situation where we find out that the mafia tried to kill Mateos during the night. Kato turned out to be the serial killer, rather than the doctor, but the fact remains that the mafia wanted Mateos dead. After spending the previous day arguing with Matoes for accusing him, it's hardly surprising that Snipy would want to silence him.

Interestingly, Mateos did not accuse Snipy again on this day. Maybe he hadn?t discovered Snipy?s identity, or maybe he knew that Snipy would try to kill him again. The doctor cannot save the same person twice in a row, can he?

Unfortunately, I then posted about my confusion over all the SnipySev votes. I really wish I had been paying more attention. With the Kato situation, Snipy managed to slip under the radar and survive. True, we got rid of the serial killer that day, but we can?t say if that was good or bad without knowing who Kato would have tried to kill later in the game.

Onto day 4, and people start voting for Protoraptor. This is where Snipy first shows his panic at losing inactive players. He knew that he needed to keep Proto alive to give the mafia a better chance of winning.

Wait, why are you guys trying to kill off Protoraptor? He isn't a mobster for sure, because last night ended early. That means every mafia member voted before the deadline. And since Proto has been completely inactive, he can't be one of them.

After being quiet since the voting for him died down, Snipy suddenly reappeared, doing his best to try to convince people to keep Proto in the game. It's also interesting that he said ?Proto has been completely inactive?, when he has been online many times during the game. Proto could easily have been a mafioso who was just not posting to avoid suspicion. It may be a long shot, but of course, Proto could have been the don, no? We know the don must be dead now, because otherwise the mafia would have won already. But that seems unlikely. What?s more likely is that, as I have explained several times, the mafia need to keep the inactive players alive to increase their chance of survival.

After making his case for protecting Proto, Snipy stayed quiet and chose not to vote, even though he appeared to find flamingemu suspicious. Another attempt to subtley put doubt into peoples? minds? He didn?t need to vote because he knew that no one from the mafia was in danger.

Then we come to day 5. A few of us vote Proto as an inactive member who should be replaced. No confirmed mafia members, or Snipy, do. Because of course, they need him alive. Snipy does, however, place a vote for flamingemu today:

I vote on flamingemu to. Besides the drama, his votes have been completely random. I don't trust him even if he is a civilian.

The last part of his post is very interesting - ?I don't trust him even if he is a civilian?. This sounds incredibly contradictory to me, given that he went crazy whenever someone tried to vote for Proto even though he was probably a civilian. It's a very strange thing for a civilian to say.

By the next morning, Flamingemu and Ryan were dead. Jarreguin posted the following:

Wow, another inactive member voted off... great.

I don't know which ?inactive member? he was referring to, as both Emu and Ryan seemed to be quite active, but you can see how unhappy he is with the idea that inactive players were being voted for. Like I said, only the mafia would benefit from keeping inactive players alive and we now know that jarreguin was mafia. Is it just a coincidence that Snipy fought so hard to save Proto? We?ll see.

After another 2 civilian deaths, day 7 arrives, and it's a quiet one. The votes stand at 2-1, jarreguin vs Proto. Snipy has to make a decision - vote for a fellow mafia member, who he has (nearly) voted for before, in an attempt to ?prove? his innocence in the morning? Or vote for the inactive member he has already campaigned to save and make himself look suspicious? Jarreguin decided to quit the game at this point, giving Snipy nothing to fear in voting for him. He pushed jarreguin further into the lead, knowing that this would surely convince everyone of his innocence the next day.

Once again, plagued by inactivity, I visit the thread without much idea of what has been going on. After not noticing jarreguin?s suspicious activities, I decided to vote for Protoraptor, because I knew that at this stage in the game I had to start voting again, and at the time it made the most sense to vote for an inactive player because no one had given me a decent reason to vote for anyone else. The votes then stood at 3-2. The next vote is interesting - DawnBreaker voted for Proto. Snipy?s vote for jarreguin makes me believe that it was already known among the mafia that jarreguin wanted to quit. So why not have Dawn vote for him as well?

Now that I think about it, maybe jarreguin?s surrender wasn?t planned. But maybe the voting was. We all knew that in the event of a tie between and active and an inactive player, the active player would surely win. Maybe they kept the voting even to spread the suspicion. I really don't understand what happened on this day. It was a very unusual day. But the point is that Snipy made sure to make himself look innocent, while identifying me as an easy target after I voted for Proto. In fact, even during the night he kept making the point that voting for Proto was suspicious.

But anyway, after that messy day, voting for DawnBreaker quickly starts. I am wary of jumping on this bandwagon because I also voted for Proto and that seemed to be everyone?s reason for voting for Dawn. Interestingly, Dawn?s second vote comes from Snipy, as usual, without any reason given. Snipy knew I was still on the fence about Dawn and took this opportunity to begin the process of framing me. By getting a vote for Dawn in early, he still had the chance to change his mind later, just like he did with jarreguin on day 1.

At this point it seems to me that Snipy had decided that the best strategy is to jump on the suspicions surrounding Dawn in order to further build a case for his innocence. He realised that even if Dawn was killed, the mafia could still win as long as he was not voted for. He continued to attack anyone who suggested voting for Proto, even though it made perfect sense. By voting Dawn out, and by making a point of constantly arguing with anyone who tried to vote for Proto, he knew he was basically guaranteed survival once Dawn and/or Proto was killed and their roles revealed. Sure, he had to get rid of a mafioso in the process but he knew that by his surviving until the final day, against 2 civilians, the mafia would win.

In the end, it was Proto that died first, leaving Snipy to vote for DawnBreaker again. Yes, it might have looked like a risky strategy but Snipy knew exactly what he was going. He knew how to survive until the final day. Look at his post:

Guys... I effing told you so. Proto's no threat. I hope this will at least prove my innocence.

We're so lucky there weren't three mafiosos left. Maybe we did kill the don after all.

Tomorrow I'll have to go to my grandfather's house, and I'll stay there until Monday. I won't be able to access the internet. Before leaving I'll come check the comments to read the accusations, defenses and theories. But for now I vote for DawnBreaker, like I did during the last round.

?I effing told you so? is already quite aggressive, and then ?I hope this will at least prove my innocence? just reveals that this is exactly what he wanted to happen. The last sentence, ?But for now I vote for DawnBreaker, like I did during the last round.? serves as a reminder that he has already voted for Dawn, setting himself up for another ?I effing told you so? once Dawn is revealed as mafia. Dawn must have agreed with Snipy?s plan because they are voting for each other again. Maybe it was intended to create more suspicion around myself once it was revealed that the only other person to vote for Snipy was mafia. Actually, by the end of the day Dawn had voted for me, leaving me as the only person to vote for Snipy. I?m not sure what that was supposed to achieve. But the mafia voting on the last couple of days does seem a little crazy.

Then came the start of the ?fight? that everyone seemed to enjoy so much. I pointed out how ridiculous Snipy?s comments about Proto were and it just escalated from there. Actually, it didn?t really ?escalate?, did it? It was just Snipy completely ignoring my arguments and repeatedly stating how little sense voting for Proto made, without ever being able to explain why it was such a terrible idea. I've already responded to each of these posts so I don't see the need to do it again here. I just hope it's as obvious to everyone else as it is to me that I have been framed here - the constant, ridiculous arguments from Snipy about Proto are a definite sign of panic, in my opinion. If Snipy had managed to save Proto, then the game would already be lost to the mafia.

Snipy, you?ve played a good game but unfortunately for you and your mafia friends, not quite as good as you?d have liked. It's been a long time since my last mafia game but I still recognise classic mafia behaviour in you. And, while it seems overwhelmingly obvious to me that the only logical explanation here is that you have to be mafia, I will just appologise in advance in case gdn is actually the final mafia member and we?ve both been played spectacularly

Gdn, since you are the one who decides whether me or Snipy dies today, I?m sorry for not listening when you said, more than once, that Snipy must be mafia. I think that if I had been paying more attention during this game, I would have voted for Snipy instead of Proto and we could have won by now. I just hope you make the right decision and change your vote to Snipy. Otherwise, we?ve lost this.

Oh, by the way, I just want to make it clear that I HAVE NOT VOTED YET. If I vote now then there was no point in me writing all of that so I?ll give gdn some time to consider his vote, and who knows, I might not have decided on my own yet

2013-07-29 13:08:00

Author:
ARD

Posts: 4291

My word, that's a long post!

Good luck townies! Shame I wasn't a bit more trusting of my initial suspicions of Dawn... but there you go.

2013-07-29 13:14:00

Author:
Ali_Star

Posts: 4085

My word, that's a long post!

Good luck townies! Shame I wasn't a bit more trusting of my initial suspicions of Dawn... but there you go.

Sorry!

Anyway, interesting post Ard. Gdn, it's time to decide once and for all. It's all on your head now :kz:

2013-07-29 13:31:00

Author:
RockSauron

Posts: 10882

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxboy85pTb1qf4sbho1_400.gif

Nope, I still trust Snipy. :kz:

2013-07-29 13:45:00

Author:
gdn001

Posts: 5891

Wow, Cog. I must congratulate you. Not everyone would have had the patience to come up all that crap in a desperate last attempt to save themselves.

You forgot one vital detail though, and it's the same problem you had when trying to come up with an excuse for killing Proto. Must I repeat it? Fine.

The tactic you just described isn't all that good. Here's why.

My accusation against DawnBreaker was based on the same argument than my accusation against you. The sole reason I decided to vote on her first was because her gophers annoyed me. If I am mafia and you are really a civilian, then why didn't I accuse you first, instead of killing my supposed ally?

If I were mafia, I'd have voted on you instead of DawnBreaker. Kalawishis and gdn believe me, so they'd have voted on you too. At night me and Dawn would kill either one of them; then we'd have the majority and won the game.

So what you're saying is: I instead chose to kill my last ally, needlessly prolonging the game for another day, and now I am going to manipulate gdn into helping me kill you. And for the last round, I'll fight gdn and leave the fate of the game to a match of rock-paper-scissors. Sure, this sounds like a smart strategy.

I admire your persistence and shrewdness, Cog. But face it, this is over.

@Dawn: I'm not a fan of the gophers in every post but don't let me tell you what to do.

2013-07-29 13:48:00

Author:
SnipySev

Posts: 2452

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxboy85pTb1qf4sbho1_400.gif

Nope, I still trust Snipy. :kz:

Then the day is over!

Burn, tell us the results! Are Gdn and Snipy going to have to repopulate the town? ... Somehow?

Or will one of them be the remaining mafia, and be doomed to forever roam the desolate wasteland of a town gone mad?

Find out next time... ON DRAGONBALL Z!

2013-07-29 13:52:00

Author:
RockSauron

Posts: 10882

Then the day is over!

Burn, tell us the results! Are Gdn and Snipy going to have to repopulate the town? ... Somehow?

Or will one of them be the remaining mafia, and be doomed to forever roam the desolate wasteland of a town gone mad?

Find out next time... ON DRAGONBALL Z!
Well, are the two gopher twins still alive?

2013-07-29 13:57:00

Author:
gdn001

Posts: 5891

Well, are the two gopher twins still alive?

No, Dawn was a dirty mafiaso and was found discombobulated in a ditch.

2013-07-29 14:03:00

Author:
RockSauron

Posts: 10882

No, Dawn was a dirty mafiaso and was found discombobulated in a ditch.

He means her sisters, I think.

It's a good idea actually. Their husbands are dead, so...

2013-07-29 14:06:00

Author:
SnipySev

Posts: 2452

Wow, Cog. I must congratulate you. Not everyone would have had the patience to come up all that crap in a desperate last attempt to save themselves.

Believe it or not I've seen much worse!

2013-07-29 14:11:00

Author:
Ali_Star

Posts: 4085

My accusation against DawnBreaker was based on the same argument than my accusation against you. The sole reason I decided to vote on her first was because her gophers annoyed me. If I am mafia and you are really a civilian, then why didn't I accuse you first, instead of killing my supposed ally?

If I were mafia, I'd have voted on you instead of DawnBreaker. Kalawishis and gdn believe me, so they'd have voted on you too. At night me and Dawn would kill either one of them; then we'd have the majority and won the game.

If you had voted for me first, and I was killed instead of DawnBreaker, I would have been revealed as a civilian and you would have lost the support you needed to survive to the end. You couldn't kill me at night for the same reason. By voting for Dawn instead, you made it look like you were innocent and made me look like the bad guy.

So what you're saying is: I instead chose to kill my last ally, needlessly prolonging the game for another day, and now I am going to manipulate gdn into helping me kill you. And for the last round, I'll fight gdn and leave the fate of the game to a match of rock-paper-scissors. Sure, this sounds like a smart strategy.

Fate? If you vote me out today, you'll kill gdn tonight and you'll win. There's no rock-paper-scissors about it.

Gdn, seriously, think about it, if you vote for me the mafia has won

2013-07-29 14:58:00

Author:
ARD

Posts: 4291

If you had voted for me first, and I was killed instead of DawnBreaker, I would have been revealed as a civilian and you would have lost the support you needed to survive to the end.

It wouldn't have mattered. If I were mafia and had killed you during the day, then all I and Dawn would have needed to do was to kill another civilian by night. By the time people would have known, it would make no difference. The game would have already been won by us because we'd outnumber the last civilian.

2013-07-29 15:07:00

Author:
SnipySev

Posts: 2452

It wouldn't have mattered. If I were mafia and had killed you during the day, then all I and Dawn would have needed to do was to kill another civilian by night. By the time people would have known, it would make no difference. The game would have already been won by us because we'd outnumber the last civilian.

But at that point, the doctor was still alive. With so few players remaining it would be stupid to assume you could be guaranteed a successful kill at night. If I was killed, and Kalawishis managed to save someone that night, you would not yet have a majority, and everyone would know that I was innocent and suspicion would point to you. And if the doctor did save someone, he would know the identity of that civilian. That would be too much of a risk when you knew you could easily reach the final day, and direct all suspicion towards me, by voting for Dawn instead.

2013-07-29 15:18:00

Author:
ARD

Posts: 4291

He means her sisters, I think.

It's a good idea actually. Their husbands are dead, so...

I thought she only had one sister? Didn't pay attention to that plot detour.

Well, anyway. I'm going to move far away from your gopher fetish. O-o

2013-07-29 15:21:00

Author:
RockSauron

Posts: 10882

But at that point, the doctor was still alive. With so few players remaining it would be stupid to assume you could be guaranteed a successful kill at night. If I was killed, and Kalawishis managed to save someone that night, you would not yet have a majority, and everyone would know that I was innocent and suspicion would point to you. And if the doctor did save someone, he would know the identity of that civilian. That would be too much of a risk when you knew you could easily reach the final day, and direct all suspicion towards me, by voting for Dawn instead.

Another tactic whose odds of succeeding are much lower.

If I were a mafioso and you a civilian, then the doctor could have either been you, Kala or gdn. If you were the doctor, any player but me could have been protected. Kala and gdn believed me, so if either one of them were the doctor, any player but you and Dawn could have been protected.

Which strategy had the better odds? The one where you try not to pick the same player the doctor is picking out of 3/4 people, or the one where you get tied with the other last player and have to engage in the randomness of a rock-paper-scissor game?

Besides, Dawn would still have been alive. She would have had a chance at winning the game for the mafia, provided she could convince the other two she was innocent.

If I were a mafioso and you a civilian, then I'd have convinced Kala and gdn to vote on you instead of Dawn. Any other tactic would have been plain stupid.

2013-07-29 16:01:00

Author:
SnipySev

Posts: 2452

Which strategy had the better odds? The one where you try not to pick the same player the doctor is picking out of 3/4 people, or the one where you get tied with the other last player and have to engage in the randomness of a rock-paper-scissor game?

Honestly, I have no idea what you're even talking about now. You've taken the one part of my evidence that I admitted I was confused about and have attempted to prove me wrong by inventing flaws in my logic. I don't know why you acted the way you did but I have given possible reasons for it that make perfect sense. Stop trying to overcomplicated things.

I haven't seen you give any evidence to suggest that anything else I've said was wrong, and I haven't seen anything to explain why exactly you are voting for me, except that I voted for Protoraptor. I've explained my reasons for doing so countless times and you still haven't given a proper counterargument.

2013-07-29 16:43:00

Author:
ARD

Posts: 4291

I'll wait until cog votes, or GDN confirms a third time that he's set in his vote before ending the day. Cog and Snipy seem dead set on each other, so no point in asking them. You can't stall forever cog, time is ticking...

2013-07-29 16:48:00

Author:
Burnvictim42

Posts: 3322

I'll wait until cog votes, or GDN confirms a third time that he's set in his vote before ending the day.

Gdn, please think carefully saying anything, don't just blindy follow Snipy. He hasn't given a decent shred of evidence to suggest that he is innocent or to dispute my arguments, nor has he given a reason for voting for me. If you vote for me, the mafia wins. If you vote for Snipy, we win. It's that simple and I don't know how you can deny that

2013-07-29 16:54:00

Author:
ARD

Posts: 4291

2013-07-29 16:54:00

Author:
SnipySev

Posts: 2452

They were pretty clear, but you had some back and forth afterwards, before I logged on. I have to give him a chance to review all the evidence

2013-07-29 16:58:00

Author:
Burnvictim42

Posts: 3322

Okay, we're just going in circles now.

gdn, have his posts convinced you to change your vote? Give us a definite answer (even though your previous posts were pretty clear, in my opinion) so CogMonkey can give us his vote and we can finally see who's telling the truth.

Interesting how as soon as I point out Snipy's lack of evidence he decides to stop responding and give up. By "interesting", I mean suspicious. And by "suspicious", I mean blatantly mafia. But whatever, it's up to gdn now.

2013-07-29 17:01:00

Author:
ARD

Posts: 4291

... but no pressure or anything, gdn!

2013-07-29 17:01:00

Author:
RockSauron

Posts: 10882

gdn, you know he's lying. Look at his posts. Have I not provided valid points? His accusations and defenses get sloppier with every reply.

EDIT: I have stopped arguing because he just ignores every single point I make, and insists on impliying that I'm somehow a mafioso who constantly resorts to the stupidest tactics.

2013-07-29 17:02:00

Author:
SnipySev

Posts: 2452

I think we can all agree that it would be most unpleasant to be gdn right now.

2013-07-29 17:04:00

Author:
Dragonvarsity

Posts: 5208

Have I not provided valid points?

No.

His accusations and defenses get sloppier with every reply.

No.

I have stopped arguing because he just ignores every single point I make, and insists on impliying that I'm somehow a mafioso who constantly resorts to the stupidest tactics.

No.

With each of these quotes you have described exactly what you have been doing, and the complete opposite of what I have been doing...are we reading the same thread here?

2013-07-29 17:09:00

Author:
ARD

Posts: 4291

Snipy and Cog:http://dump.stealinurmegahurtz.com/img/Objection.gif
Me:http://cache.blippitt.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Popcorn-08-Schoolhouse-Rock.gif

2013-07-29 17:13:00

Author:
Burnvictim42

Posts: 3322

"No"?

Because a post providing no counter-arguments but three "No"s and a "No, you!" is a real solid response, right?

Whatever. G, I'm sure you know what needs to be done.

2013-07-29 17:14:00

Author:
SnipySev

Posts: 2452

"No"?

Because a post providing no counter-arguments but three "No"s and a "No, you!" is a real solid response, right?

I've spent all day posting solid responses, haven't I? I appreciate that you can't exactly just give up and say "lol jk i am mafia" but you have barely responded, let alone given a single solid response.

2013-07-29 17:17:00

Author:
ARD

Posts: 4291

Snipy and Cog:http://dump.stealinurmegahurtz.com/img/Objection.gif
Me:http://cache.blippitt.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Popcorn-08-Schoolhouse-Rock.gif

And me:

PRESS http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090412010747/theforceunleashed/en/images/6/66/PS3_X.png TO KILL OFF SNIPY.
PRESS http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090412010061/theforceunleashed/en/images/3/33/PS3_Square.png TO KILL OFF COG.

But in the end, I'm sorry Cog, but nice try anyway. :kz:

2013-07-29 17:22:00

Author:
gdn001

Posts: 5891

Well, it'd be nice to at least hear a single valid reason for why I'm the one being killed, but whatever. I guess we've lost this one. Good job everyone.

Also, I vote for SnipySev

2013-07-29 17:27:00

Author:
ARD

Posts: 4291

Finally, it is over. No more squabbling. Let's kill him, then.

http://i.imgur.com/xE8Ee4v.jpg

2013-07-29 17:29:00

Author:
SnipySev

Posts: 2452

Your "solid responses" consist on implying that I'm a mafioso who has repeatedly opted to make the most idiotic choices; who killed his last ally to look more innocent, when all it would've taken to win the game was just to kill one civ during the day and another during the night. That I am a mafioso who traded a certain victory for an uncertain three-man mexican standoff.

Yeah sure, your arguments are rock solid.

RAWK solid

Also, day's over. LET'S SEE WHO WON.

Of course, we all know the answer to that.

ME :kz:

2013-07-29 17:30:00

Author:
RockSauron

Posts: 10882

http://i.imgur.com/q5hWM7k.png

Congratulations SnipySev and GDN001, you successfully survived the Mafia and lived to tell the tale! Everyone else, incredibly well played, I've finally run out of popcorn. The following is a reveal of all roles (including The elusive Don) and the PMs I sent out at the beginning of the game. I also used http://www.fodey.com/generators/newspaper/snippet.asp and www.chatzy.com extensively. So, without further ado...

The Dastardly Mafia
Schark94 ? The Don
jarreguin001 - Mafioso
CogMonkey ? Mafioso
TheUltraDeino ? Mafioso
DawnBreaker_23 ? Mafioso
Mafioso: You are a regular Mafia member, just trying to make a dishonest living. You have no extra roles except for Mafia related voting.
Mafia Voting: Every night you must come to a consensus as to who to vote for. A PM must then be sent to me, and I will kill that person off overnight. With voting, majority rules, so if 3 people want to vote for one person, that person will die. You can access a private Mafia chat here: REDACTED The password is Seems_Legit. I will be checking the chat every now and then for voting confirmation. Someone still needs to send me a PM, but I don't require PMs from all players if votes are in the chat room.
The Don: You have worked long and hard to form this Mafia, and you aren?t about to see it go down without a fight. But you're way past that fighting stage now, you run a legitamate business club, noone would ever suspect that Ted E. Bear's Mafia Free Playland and Casino could POSSIBLY be a front! As the owner of such a "Legitamate" Emporium, you have been sure not to leave a trail that would be detected by any common newspaper. Other roles may be able to detect your presence however. The Heroic Special Roles
Ali_star - Sheriff
Kalawishis ? Doctor
Kato - Serial Killer
Rocksauron - Governor
xxMATEOSxx - Private Investigator
The Sheriff: It's time to cancel robbing the Pine City Stage, because you?re the new sheriff in town! Every night, using your acute mental ability (and maybe a few shots of whiskey), you?re able to discern the role of any member of the town. During the night, you will send me a PM about a particular player, and I will tell you their role. Every detail about their role will be explained (though if you have questions, you can ask and I?ll see what I can say), so there will be no doubt about what they are trying to achieve. You will have to convince the rest of the town who is trustworthy on your own, but the information might just help keep you alive.
The Serial Killer: You?ve had enough of this nonsense, you know who?s responsible and it's time to bring Justice to them. Unfortunately for you, you only have two Justice? brand bullets, so you have to pick your targets carefully. During the night, you can PM me the name of a member, and they will die before the morning. You can only kill two people in the entire game, so choose your targets carefully.
The Doctor: Several years in Medical School have given you the amazing ability to heal an individual from almost any wound. That and the word ?Doctor? in front of your name. During the night, it is your job to attempt to protect the townspeople from death. Each night, you will PM me the name of a member who you wish to save. You may attempt to save anyone (including yourself), and they will be protected from death for that night. If you attempt to protect yourself and are attacked, you will lose your doctoring skills due to botched surgery, but your identity will not be announced in the paper.
The Private Investigator: You've seen your fair share of nasty cases like this, and you know you'll get to the bottom of this in the end. All you have to do is sit? and wait. Every night you PM me the name of a player, and you'll perform a stake out at their house. I will then report what you saw happen that night. Any actions at that location will be visible to you, but identities will not always be so clear.
The Govenor: 'Ello Guvnah! As a political powerhouse, you have some real sway in this town, and you're going to put "responsible for single handedly ending the mafia menace" right on your resume. Every day a new person is killed by an angry mob, and this kind of violence, while necessary, may kill innocents, which you won't stand for! Once during the game, you can PM me the name of a player to issue an official pardon, preventing that person from being killed via mob. If you become the victim, it is assumed that you will pardon yourself

The pardon PM must be sent before the day ends, in order to get through all the red tape, and allow members to know if they still have roles at night. If there is no need for the pardon at the end of the day, you will not use your 1 vote.

Rocksauron, Lord of the Peanut: As the reigning evil overlord, you have some real political sway in this town, and it's time to show these mafia punks a lesson they won't forget! Citizens are sacrificed each day in an attempt to rid the Mafia menace, but those sacrifices should be made to you, not some dumb mafia! Once during the game, you can PM me the name of a player to issue a proclamation stopping this execution, preventing that person from being killed via mob. Unfortunately, the citizens aren't sure whether to be more afraid of you or the mafia, so you can only do this once before it loses effectiveness. If you become the victim, it is assumed that you will save yourself

This PM must be sent before the day ends, in order for your lazy minions to issue your proclamation, and allow members to know if they still have roles at night. If you submit your PM early, and there is no need for the intervention at the end of the day, you will not use your 1 vote. The Brave Civilians
amoney1999 - Civilian
nysudyrgh - Civilian
Flamingemu - Civilian
Ryan86me - Civilian
gdn001 - Civilian
Dragonvarsity - Civilian
Craigmond - Civilian
Protoraptor - Civilian
SnipySev - Civilian
qwerty123456 - Civilian Civilian: You?re a regular townsperson! Perhaps you?re an avid bowler! A baker! A candlestick maker! Come up with whatever wild fantasy you want, but I?m sorry to tell you, you didn?t luck out with the roles this time.

If you like, you may PM me some sort of information, and this will be involved some way in your own death (nothing naughty please). You may be surprised at how biker weasels with chainsaws ended up in a city, but they were most certainly there, and most certainly part of your death. Good luck avoiding the Mafia menace, and saving your own skin!

Let me know if there's anything more you'd like revealed, and once again, great game everyone

2013-07-29 17:34:00

Author:
Burnvictim42

Posts: 3322

Yay. No more red for me!

Or bold. Even if it fits me.

So, I'd just like to say, now that it's all over and done with... I could ARDly understand CogMonkey's reasoning. Why the hell would he think the mafia wants an inactive dead? It's one less potential vote against them to worry about.

For instance, imagine there were 5 people, two of them mafia. If one of the people is inactive, then it's the two mafia vs the two civilians, and its easier for the mafia to manipulate. If none of them are inactive, then its two mafia vs three civilians. They would rather kill someone who could potentially vote against them then someone who wouldn't anyway. It's why the mafia killed the active and experienced players early on- active players are a hindrance to the mafia's activity, whereas inactive are just a number that doesn't affect anything.

Seriously, I don't care if you're mafia or not Ard. I was literally facepalming throughout your entire rants of "logic", and you deserve your fate :kz:

2013-07-29 17:44:00

Author:
RockSauron

Posts: 10882

So, I'd just like to say, now that it's all over and done with... I could ARDly understand CogMonkey's reasoning. Why the hell would he think the mafia wants an inactive dead? It's one less potential vote against them to worry about.

For instance, imagine there were 5 people, two of them mafia. If one of the people is inactive, then it's the two mafia vs the two civilians, and its easier for the mafia to manipulate. If none of them are inactive, then its two mafia vs three civilians. They would rather kill someone who could potentially vote against them then someone who wouldn't anyway. It's why the mafia killed the active and experienced players early on- active players are a hindrance to the mafia's activity, whereas inactive are just a number that doesn't affect anything.

I am genuinely starting to wonder whether I have wandered into the wrong thread...everything you just said is my exact reasoning for voting for Proto in the first place. I kept saying over and over again than the mafia would not want to kill an inactive member for the exact reason you just posted...

2013-07-29 17:47:00

Author:
ARD

Posts: 4291

I am genuinely starting to wonder whether I have wandered into the wrong thread...everything you just said is my exact reasoning for voting for Proto in the first place. I kept saying over and over again than the mafia would not want to kill an inactive member for the exact reason you just posted...

... hm. Maybe I just got confused with the arguments, and I can't be ARSEd enough to go back and check.

... The RAWK compels you! /sniped

2013-07-29 17:49:00

Author:
RockSauron

Posts: 10882

I posted the results a few posts up, should have known there'd be posts before I finished the reveal

2013-07-29 17:52:00

Author:
Burnvictim42

Posts: 3322

I ARDly think that's very nice, you backstabbing traitor :kz:

2013-07-29 17:54:00

Author:
RockSauron

Posts: 10882

Well now I feel a lot better having brought Schark down with me.

2013-07-29 17:57:00

Author:
Dragonvarsity

Posts: 5208

And with that said, the end.
http://cdn.smosh.com/sites/default/files/bloguploads/epic-high-five-adventure-time.gif

2013-07-29 17:57:00

Author:
gdn001

Posts: 5891

Aw man, i got resurrected

I liked being dead.

2013-07-29 17:59:00

Author:
amoney1999

Posts: 1202

Heck yeah! Congratulations to Snipy and GDN.
Also, didn't get a chance to act on most of them but my final suspicion list was mostly correct. Yay.

2013-07-29 18:00:00

Author:
xxMATEOSxx

Posts: 1787

Oh thank god. I was starting to bite my nails. I can't believe I survived. Fifty pages ago everyone wanted me dead.

Hey gdn, there's nothing left here for either of us. And I can't stand all the ghosts. We should move to the small town a few miles north from here (https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=81005-LBPC-Mafia-Revival-Signups). Start our lives anew, no mafia to terrorize us.

And so the two survivors rode off into the sunset, leaving the silent ghost town behind.

http://i.imgur.com/5p7LoOZ.jpg

2013-07-29 18:02:00

Author:
SnipySev

Posts: 2452

You'll be totally safe there.

2013-07-29 18:04:00

Author:
xxMATEOSxx

Posts: 1787

lol jk i am mafia

Ok, ok. I was evil all along, sorry. I had to try though. I'm just happy I lasted as long as I did. You try being part of the mafia when one of your members never contributes anything and another needlessly gives up -__-

My arguments over the last couple of days have been totally genuine though, from the point of view of a civilian, if that makes sense. I still honestly don't have a clue how anyone could believe Snipy over me. Even Rock apparently got confused between who was arguing what so I don't know what's happened there

Whatever. I'll be keeping a very close eye on Snipy in the next game because I think he would make a very...interesting...mafioso, with thinking like that.

Even more annoying than inactive and suicidal mafia members, and people who ignore simple logic, is the fact that I played no part in Rock's murder. Killing Rock was the entire reason why I signed up in the first place but those evil mafia guys chose to do it while I was on holiday with next to no internet access

2013-07-29 18:08:00

Author:
ARD

Posts: 4291

Killing Rock was the entire reason why I signed up in the first place

Love you too, buddy <3

2013-07-29 18:10:00

Author:
RockSauron

Posts: 10882

So wait a minute.... the mafiosos were:

1.) A deino((saur))
2.) A schark
3.) A gopher
4.) A monkey
and five, jarreguin.

Welp, aside from choosing jarr, random.org sure has a weird sense of humor.

2013-07-29 18:10:00

Author:
Dragonvarsity

Posts: 5208

I would like to thank everyone that believed I would not only make it to the end, but lead the civilians to victory. Even when I voted for another civilians.

2013-07-29 18:17:00

Author:
gdn001

Posts: 5891

Congrats fellas!

I'm proud to have pegged Dawn early, should have shown a bit more conviction in my suspicions though. I made a good call with Kato when he unwittingly distanced himself from the civvies. Of course I did think that made him mafia, when in actual fact he was the serial killer.

Actually sent a PM to Burn a few days ago telling him my main suspicions - they were Dawn and Cog, so well done chaps for calling them out!

... hm. Maybe I just got confused with the arguments, and I can't be ARSEd enough to go back and check.

... The RAWK compels you! /sniped

Nice British-ism there.

2013-07-29 18:24:00

Author:
Ali_Star

Posts: 4085

http://i.imgur.com/q5hWM7k.png

Hey, Burn? Who the hell is still printing these? And for whom? Everyone's dead.

2013-07-29 18:29:00

Author:
SnipySev

Posts: 2452

Hey, Burn? Who the hell is still printing these? And for whom? Everyone's dead.
Guess who works at the print works?

2013-07-29 18:30:00

Author:
gdn001

Posts: 5891

Guess who works at the print works?

Oh. So you've only made one paper this time, since there's only one reader left?

2013-07-29 18:33:00

Author:
SnipySev

Posts: 2452

Oh. So you've only made one paper this time, since there's only one reader left?
Yes, made my work much more bearable... All these deaths... https://fbcdn-profile-a.akamaihd.net/hprofile-ak-ash4/373043_641242859239149_284899211_q.jpg

2013-07-29 18:37:00

Author:
gdn001

Posts: 5891

Yes, made my work much more bearable... All these deaths... https://fbcdn-profile-a.akamaihd.net/hprofile-ak-ash4/373043_641242859239149_284899211_q.jpg

Do you have any old editions lying around?

See, we didn't have any rope left when the angry mob decided to burn Flamingemu, so they used the town's supply of toilet paper to tie him to the stake... and I don't want to use this newspaper, since it's a one-of-a-kind memento.

2013-07-29 18:45:00

Author:
SnipySev

Posts: 2452

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/33895232.jpg

2013-07-29 19:06:00

Author:
DawnBreaker_23

Posts: 568

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/33895232.jpg

2013-07-29 19:09:00

Author:
SnipySev

Posts: 2452

I promised Dragonvarsity I'd frame his picture so here is a photo of me with it on my wall

http://www.majhost.com/gallery/cogmonkey2/stuff/frame.jpg

2013-07-29 19:47:00

Author:
ARD

Posts: 4291

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/33895232.jpg
<3 ___________ :>

2013-07-29 21:30:00

Author:
gdn001

Posts: 5891

@CogMonkey: It's beautiful, thanks a lot. You set a great example for frames to come.

2013-07-29 21:39:00

Author:
Dragonvarsity

Posts: 5208

My arguments over the last couple of days have been totally genuine though, from the point of view of a civilian, if that makes sense. I still honestly don't have a clue how anyone could believe Snipy over me. Even Rock apparently got confused between who was arguing what so I don't know what's happened there

Whatever. I'll be keeping a very close eye on Snipy in the next game because I think he would make a very...interesting...mafioso, with thinking like that.

I just figured Proto would be the easiest target for the mafia in case they were having trouble framing active civilians. And back then there weren't many people accusing each other, so it just made sense.

True enough, inactive members aren't such a high priority. But I never said they were the best target. I only said they were the easiest.

And can you honestly say I was wrong about that? By offing an inactive civ you guys weren't exactly disproving the theory.

Very well played though. I imagine it couldn't have been easy keeping the operation afloat for so long, especially with an absent player among your ranks.

2013-07-29 22:05:00

Author:
SnipySev

Posts: 2452

The mafia chat was quite interesting to say the least. I'd post a link, but i'm not sure how much they want it made public

2013-07-29 22:10:00

Author:
Burnvictim42

Posts: 3322

Well done to the remaining civilians for winning, what looked like, a losing battle towards the end

The whole thing was great fun to participate in, even if my neck was on the line ion almost everyday

2013-07-29 22:20:00

Author:
craigmond

Posts: 2426

The one day I choose not to save myself, I get killed.

Oh well, happy No-Mafia day, everybody!

2013-07-29 23:48:00

Author:
Kalawishis

Posts: 928

The one day I choose not to save myself, I get killed.

Oh well, happy No-Mafia day, everybody!

Wait, you just kept trying to save yourself?

http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/attachments/firing-line/46615d1359652284-5-guns-you-should-buy-before-potential-gun-ban-oh-you-930672632351_u18chan.jpeg

2013-07-29 23:55:00

Author:
RockSauron

Posts: 10882

Wait, you just kept trying to save yourself?

http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/attachments/firing-line/46615d1359652284-5-guns-you-should-buy-before-potential-gun-ban-oh-you-930672632351_u18chan.jpeg

Didn't you use that exact same tactic when you were the doctor?

2013-07-29 23:57:00

Author:
Dragonvarsity

Posts: 5208

The mafia chat was quite interesting to say the least. I'd post a link, but i'm not sure how much they want it made public

No, DON'T DO THAT.

2013-07-30 00:56:00

Author:
DawnBreaker_23

Posts: 568

No, DON'T DO THAT.

DO IT! DO IT!

Oh, and btw, I also saved mateo at the second day. You can send me the money now.

2013-07-30 02:43:00

Author:
Kalawishis

Posts: 928

I like to think I returned the favor getting votes against flamingemu instead of you.

Also, I'm not insured in this state.((Runs away))

2013-07-30 03:30:00

Author:
xxMATEOSxx

Posts: 1787

That was a fun time

. Remember to sign up for teh LBPC Mafia: Revival thread if you haven't ;D.

2013-07-30 03:41:00

Author:
Ryan86me

Posts: 1909

Well that was fun. I am still glad I wasn't one of those animal mafia members, I was the only human!

2013-07-30 09:04:00

Author:
jarreguin001

Posts: 351

No mafia game will ever be as successful as this one.

2013-09-03 03:56:00

Author:
jarreguin001

Posts: 351

I'm gone for a day, and there are 2 and a half whole unread pages O_o. Anyways, that being said and done, TheUltraDeino is pretty stupid.

Wow, what a waste of joining the game for him really. He gets to join the mafia with who knows how many others, and he does nothing?

---

Anyways, who else died though? The mafia didn't vote on time?

Wow, Ultra Deino sucks at this game to just casually tell someone he knew not to be mafia "Yeah, I'm just joining the chat". Oh well.

So, one mafia down. Usually, there are three of them, but since this game has more players than usual I wouldn't be surprised if it's as many as five. HM
.-.
I wasn't paying to the forum, really, kinda rushed at the pm b/c you guys started without me. I know I made a stupid mistake, I am prone to a lot of them. This was my first time playing, and I know I ditched it, sorry about that, I'm prone to leave the forums every couple months. By the time I knew that I screwed up, I decided, "eh, oh well. I'll try not to screw up next time"
That's all it was
a mistake. I think I had The Last of Us in my mind, too. Plus, at that week my family was planning to go to Mexico, so I would've been inactive anyways. I know these are a handful of excuses, but I think the bottomline was that by the time RAWK messaged me, I didn't really care about the game, so my mind wasn't super-serious about it.

I mean, everyone makes mistakes once and a while :/
My death was pretty funny though

2013-09-03 05:21:00

Author:
TheUltraDeino

Posts: 1274

.-.
I wasn't paying to the forum, really, kinda rushed at the pm b/c you guys started without me. I know I made a stupid mistake, I am prone to a lot of them. This was my first time playing, and I know I ditched it, sorry about that, I'm prone to leave the forums every couple months. By the time I knew that I screwed up, I decided, "eh, oh well. I'll try not to screw up next time"
That's all it was
a mistake. I think I had The Last of Us in my mind, too. Plus, at that week my family was planning to go to Mexico, so I would've been inactive anyways. I know these are a handful of excuses, but I think the bottomline was that by the time RAWK messaged me, I didn't really care about the game, so my mind wasn't super-serious about it.

I mean, everyone makes mistakes once and a while :/
My death was pretty funny though

Don't worry about it. At the end of the day it's just a silly game. If it makes you feel any better, some people on the civilian side were also completely inactive.

Besides, you'll be able to participate in the fourth mafia game

2013-09-03 11:29:00

Author:
SnipySev

Posts: 2452

. Apologies for how big of an *** I came across as, I'm face palming at myself after reading the post of mine you quoted.

2013-09-03 12:49:00

Author:
Ryan86me

Posts: 1909

This game was by far the worst as the best player (ie moi) got killed in the first round!

2013-09-03 16:06:00

Author:
Ali_Star

Posts: 4085

Thanks guys, I'll make sure not to make the same mistakes next time I join a mafia gang. (that's really a sentence you don't hear often)

2013-09-03 21:08:00

Author:
TheUltraDeino

Posts: 1274

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