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I meeeean, the only things we have left to do for Issue 1 are up to me, so you can pretty much sit back and do nothing right now...

I thought that's what he already did

protip: this thread was 4chan crap a looooooooong time ago~

EDIT:


I dont think he's meant to be taken in anyway period

made no sense n__n		2011-02-28 19:34:00

Author:
Unknown User

I thought that's what he already did

protip: this thread was 4chan crap a looooooooong time ago~

EDIT:



made no sense n__n

4chan crap a long time ago? THAT didnt make sense lol...you should stick to "trolling"...unless youre doin it now...but i doubt it

as for what I do...you can believe whatever you want...why you're still here is beyond me but i wont turn down a fan 		2011-02-28 19:43:00

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Shadowcrazy
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4chan crap a long time ago? THAT didnt make sense lol...you should stick to "trolling"...unless youre doin it now...but i doubt it

as for what I do...you can believe whatever you want...why you're still here is beyond me but i wont turn down a fan

yeap, off-topic everywhere, you getting mad vurry easily~

Also, man, some people are hilarious when they try and understand trolling. It's effing hilarious to hear you trying to use that word.

I'm only here to support Apple Jack and Zim, nothing more 		2011-02-28 19:47:00

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Unknown User

Hey guys! Let's play a magical game called 'taking it to visitor messages'! So fun! 2011-02-28 19:52:00

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TheZimInvader
Posts: 3149

Zim is wise..... *taps wand*2011-02-28 19:53:00

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Morgana25
Posts: 5983

Better be careful of that wand.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8vsicLROJo		2011-02-28 20:28:00

Author:
Bremnen
Posts: 1800

Great news guys!!! I will be taking over as BG artist...here is an example of my work. Just look at those stars and that tree! I am a hidden gem, indeed.

http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/271/0/9/brains____by_spider_jew-d2znb5q.jpg

Don't worry...I am not really doing ANY drawing for the comic.		2011-02-28 20:33:00

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Spider-Jew
Posts: 1090

Great news guys!!! I will be taking over as BG artist...here is an example of my work. Just look at those stars and that tree! I am a hidden gem, indeed.

http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/271/0/9/brains____by_spider_jew-d2znb5q.jpg

At first, I was like


Don't worry...I am not really doing ANY drawing for the comic.

But then I was like 		2011-02-28 21:11:00

Author:
Testudini
Posts: 3262

i hate being late...

incorrect sir. Lots of times comics have various people contributing to the artwork on the pages. They have someone drawing it and an entirely different person doing the coloring. And usually the writer comes up with the panels while they write the script, they separate it into panels and explain what each panel should look like. Takes more than one person to create the delicious artwork in a comic.

example...?

although, yes, sometimes someone else can colour it, but i don't think it have ever occured one artist would draw the characters and another draw the background,

EDIT: eerr, well anywho... i've probably just missed this out but- therrree wont be any trailer now, will it? :I and what happened to sage?		2011-02-28 21:17:00

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>er.
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examples you say? Well, when the Big Time arc started in Amazing Spider-Man, there was Dan Slott doing the writing, and through his tweets, it appeared he would send Humberto Ramos a page, with the panels already on the page and would send crappy sketches of what the panel would look like. Ramos would then do the drawing and send that to Edgar Delgado, who would then do the inking for the comic. There is an example. Plus, many other comics do this in a similar way, this is just one off the top of my head.

And it you read my previous post again, I didn't say that most comics have someone draw characters and then another draw backgrounds. I was just correcting the part of your post that was incorrect.		2011-02-28 21:36:00

Author:
Spider-Jew
Posts: 1090

It's funny.

I just recently started watching an anime about these guys that become manga artists called "Bakuman". I can't tell if what they say is true or not because it all sounds legit.

Whether it's true or not, the "advice" they give out isn't half bad in real life.		2011-02-28 21:39:00

Author:
Devious_Oatmeal
Posts: 1799

examples you say? Well, when the Big Time arc started in Amazing Spider-Man, there was Dan Slott doing the writing, and through his tweets, it appeared he would send Humberto Ramos a page, with the panels already on the page and would send crappy sketches of what the panel would look like. Ramos would then do the drawing and send that to Edgar Delgado, who would then do the inking for the comic. There is an example. Plus, many other comics do this in a similar way, this is just one off the top of my head.

And it you read my previous post again, I didn't say that most comics have someone draw characters and then another draw backgrounds. I was just correcting the part of your post that was incorrect.

Sorry then, you prooved me wrong with one example. ?? and if you read my first post i never mentioned the sketches *roll eyes*		2011-02-28 21:52:00

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>er.
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Would you like more examples?

Edit: Your point seemed to be that one person did everything art related for every professional comic. My point was that this is not always the case, as many professional comics have multiple people working on the various aspects of art in a comic. So, as I realize you did not mention sketches, I was just pointing out that several people do various jobs to get the artwork completed in many different comics.

Oh, and as for Sage...he resigned. Shadow or Sage can explain more if they choose, but I do not think it is my place to go into it any further than that.		2011-02-28 21:56:00

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Spider-Jew
Posts: 1090

Back on topic......

So it seems it's very close to being done. Yay. *Throws confetti* -_-

lol. jk. Well, it's almost here. A count down is in order.... 10........9..........8............7............... ...6.........................5.......4...3...2.... .....		2011-02-28 22:02:00

Author:
Devious_Oatmeal
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The point Spidey (and I) are trying to make is, some comics have one person doing everything, and some of them don't. THIS comic seems to be one that doesn't, because if we have several people working together, it's a LOT more efficient, especially since all of us working on this project have absolutely no past experience making comics. If we ever somehow become this oh-so-popular group that's famous for making LBP-related comics and have made plenty of them before, THEN you guys can have super duper high standards for this and expect something professional.

I had countered what you said about that because working on the artwork completely by myself may be a good thing for everyone else, but it's definitely not a good thing for me. I'm only 14, in no way professional, behind on my schoolwork because of this, and definitely biting off more than I can chew. So now that that's cleared up, shall we move on?

We don't have time for a 'trailer' of sorts, or any more previews, unless you guys want this delayed some more. We're just going to go straight through with the first issue, and it gets done when it gets done.

Discussing/debating the comic and its positions: On-topic
Two people un-civilly arguing because you don't like each other: Off-topic		2011-02-28 22:44:00

Author:
TheZimInvader
Posts: 3149

Nah. I gave up on asking for the trailer and countdown. It's just you said all that was left was for you to finish some stuff. No matter what that stuff is, it's closer than what it was before. YAY!!!

High standards.... Well, if we look at your drawings, we expect the entire comic to look like that. Not necessarily that high compared to professional comics, but your drawings aren't terrible. You had to be crazy to have started this project without some knowledge of actual comic build. It would be like trying to fish in a puddle.

You working on the comic alone isn't a good thing for us. It makes the waiting time hella-long.

Well, if y'all don't want to tell how long it'll be done or related, then could you say how the comic will be "published"?

Will it be the same o' pasting the pics in the thread, or is there a different method?		2011-03-01 05:23:00

Author:
Devious_Oatmeal
Posts: 1799

We know how comics work. We just haven't DONE one before.

I'll have to check in with the other members of the group about the publishing method.		2011-03-01 05:29:00

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TheZimInvader
Posts: 3149

To the argument on the page before:

And Pixar, and Disney, and LucasFilms, and pretty much every big animation or comic has different people doing different things.

People have niches, they get paid to do those niches, then they rotate.

@Shadow
the people who draw the characters, and the people who draw the scenes usually ARE different.
Characters are usually cartoony, or less detail.
Scenery is usually highly detailed and (most of the time, depends on the type of comic) more realistic.

Animation is pretty much Comics in motion, and if you ever watch the behind the scenes of any animated movie (That was done by hand, i.e Pixar or Disney) they will show different people working on different things, switching, and tweaking it in groups.

People who do storyboarding aren't going to be drawing, character artists wont do backgrounds, etc.

It's the most widely used method for all the old comics/animations.
Mostly because it says a LOT of time.

Now, smaller stuff can be done by one person but even with the small stuff, if it is going to be published in a comic book then they will usually hire a team.

As with what zim said, it doesn't matter, no need to argue about it.
Some do, some don't, you are. Doesn't matter.		2011-03-01 08:09:00

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Bremnen
Posts: 1800

OH NUTS! D: now i seee why this whent to such a big deal, i offended your comic... SORRY what i meant with "professional comics" was "comics that people really work with as a job, getting paid" never meant this was unprofessional! this is epic! i just thought i would mention it would probably be easier if one worked on both the BG and char.

but okay since that would take forever i guess it isn't any good then.		2011-03-01 15:29:00

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>er.
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I don't think you offended our comic, so no worries.2011-03-01 15:42:00

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Spider-Jew
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This Is so anticipated, (hope this Doesnt get THE LBPC GAME VIRUS and get cancelled)2011-03-01 19:20:00

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butter-kicker
Posts: 1061

This Is so anticipated, (hope this Doesnt get THE LBPC GAME VIRUS and get cancelled)

It wont so long as we get a baclground artist after issue 1 is released		2011-03-01 22:25:00

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Shadowcrazy
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hm...i would like to be the background artist
here's an (unfinished) example of background i can do:
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/6936/imagemzo.png
I don't finished doing i need to go sleep (school 2morrow ??)
But also there's a lil' problem: I'm not always available
(this example will be a war-based background, with barricades, explosions, and, maby, blood.)		2011-03-02 01:06:00

Author:
ViniciusBR11
Posts: 546

We're gonna have to hold off on hiring artists for now, but thank you for offering anyways. However, when Issue 2 comes around, we're most likely going to look for a background artist (but if you'd like to apply for that position when that time comes, you're going to need a lot of free time to devote to the project).2011-03-02 01:20:00

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TheZimInvader
Posts: 3149

You could always test them. Have them submit stuff for right now till you start the 2nd chapter. Maybe a piece a week.

OR

Pick the artist, that wants to be the BG artist, that is most active on LBPC. But even then there could be issues.



Or you could just pick me.....HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHH!!!! JK. 		2011-03-02 03:01:00

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Devious_Oatmeal
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Or you could just pick me.....

HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHH!!!! JK.

Not funny.

You try finding someone with enough dedication, participation, motivation, time AND talent to work with us.

Because so far, I haven't.		2011-03-02 03:10:00

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Outlaw-Jack
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I apologize. I see how someone could take that the wrong way. I'm confident enough in my drawing skills, but the main thing I'm lacking is time and my different style. It's not like I was saying it doesn't matter who you picked. More like it's tough to look.

Where have you looked, and how many have you asked?(I'm NOT being sarcastic and that is NOT a rhetorical question)		2011-03-02 03:20:00

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Devious_Oatmeal
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I've looked on all 3 major LittleBigPlanet fansites (LittleBigPlanet Central, LittleBigNetwork, and LittleBigWorkshop), not to mention deviantArt and locally.

I've easily asked over 15 different people about the position... most showed no interest.		2011-03-02 03:28:00

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Outlaw-Jack
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Did you just look around, or did you post a thread and still keep up with it. What am I thinking, of course you did....

Uhhhhhh....... I'm amazed no one on Deviant said yes. What did you base your decisions on?

WAIT!!! MOST showed no interest? So you have some maybes?		2011-03-02 03:46:00

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Devious_Oatmeal
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I've looked on all 3 major LittleBigPlanet fansites (LittleBigPlanet Central, LittleBigNetwork, and LittleBigWorkshop), not to mention deviantArt and locally.

I've easily asked over 15 different people about the position... most showed no interest.

Did you show them any artwork from the comic? The thread? Perhaps you just aren't exciting enough. Get Doopz. In a bikini. Then have him ask people if they want to work on backgrounds for your comic, in bikinis.
You should target LittleBigPlanet fans. Fans who like horses in bikinis.		2011-03-02 04:11:00

Author:
Testudini
Posts: 3262

You have to realize that, while Zim is 14... I'm only 16.

I know as much about organizing a comic as much as the next guy.		2011-03-02 04:13:00

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Outlaw-Jack
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You have to realize that, while Zim is 14... I'm only 16.

I know as much about organizing a comic as much as the next guy.

That's what the bikinis are for. They grant organizing powers.

Also, I can't remember where I heard it from (either from when I use to play on the LBPC MineCraft Server, or a livestream), but I remember hearing that not all of the characters will be introduced in the first issue. Is this true?		2011-03-02 04:20:00

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Testudini
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That's what the bikinis are for. They grant organizing powers.

Also, I can't remember where I heard it from (either from when I use to play on the LBPC MineCraft Server, or a livestream), but I remember hearing that not all of the characters will be introduced in the first issue. Is this true?

Oh oh oh! I know the answer to this one!		2011-03-02 04:24:00

Author:
Unknown User

Also, I can't remember where I heard it from (either from when I use to play on the LBPC MineCraft Server, or a livestream), but I remember hearing that not all of the characters will be introduced in the first issue. Is this true?

Yes, that's true. Only a few characters will be introduced in the first issue.		2011-03-02 04:55:00

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TheZimInvader
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I would think so. It wouldn't be a good idea to reveal all the characters in the beginning. The first issue is to bring in the audience, then as the story progresses, you add more to change it up a bit, and to have enough time for the readers to get to know the characters. Cramming too much info in at one time tends to confuse the reader. Especially in mangas. lol.

Also, revealing the characters' whole bios throughout the series, since readers want to learn more about them, keeps them in longer.

Curious.... What made y'all want to start making a comic anyways? I mean, who came up with the idea? And why did y'all, as a group, decide to stick with a comic.		2011-03-02 05:07:00

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Devious_Oatmeal
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I would think so. It wouldn't be a good idea to reveal all the characters in the beginning. The first issue is to bring in the audience, then as the story progresses, you add more to change it up a bit, and to have enough time for the readers to get to know the characters. Cramming too much info in at one time tends to confuse the reader. Especially in mangas. lol.

Also, revealing the characters' whole bios throughout the series, since readers want to learn more about them, keeps them in longer.

Curious.... What made y'all want to start making a comic anyways? I mean, who came up with the idea? And why did y'all, as a group, decide to stick with a comic.


But then why would you want to introduce all of them at once? It'd be hard to warm up to their personal stories, especially since in the beginning they tend to have clashing personalities (and with some characters, it wouldn't make sense... I mean, putting a villain next to a superhero? Ain't gonna happen that early...).

These bios that we've released about them only scratch a fraction of the surface of how they really are. I'm sure you'll be surprised once the series progresses...

Don't fret about warming up to them, though. I've made sure that they're more than just ordinary sackpeople. I wanna make you guys feel the ways they do. I want them to relate to you. And we, as a team, hope that we don't disappoint.

As for why I'm still around... I've gone too deep to turn back now. I can't stop this story, and I can't let this die. Not now. Not yet.		2011-03-02 05:16:00

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Outlaw-Jack
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I'm sure this questions been on a lot of people's mind for a while.

How many explosions will feature in issue 1?		2011-03-02 05:18:00

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MrFunctionality
Posts: 637

I'm sure this questions been on a lot of people's mind for a while.

How many explosions will feature in issue 1?

Not that many, actually.		2011-03-02 05:23:00

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Outlaw-Jack
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As for why I'm still around... I've gone too deep to turn back now. I can't stop this story, and I can't let this die. Not now. Not yet.

Poignant coming from an Undead Gunslinger 		2011-03-02 05:24:00

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Astrosimi
Posts: 2046

Apple Jack ≠ Michael Bay2011-03-02 05:25:00

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Unknown User

But then why would you want to introduce all of them at once? It'd be hard to warm up to their personal stories, especially since in the beginning they tend to have clashing personalities (and with some characters, it wouldn't make sense... I mean, putting a villain next to a superhero? Ain't gonna happen that early...).

These bios that we've released about them only scratch a fraction of the surface of how they really are. I'm sure you'll be surprised once the series progresses...

Don't fret about warming up to them, though. I've made sure that they're more than just ordinary sackpeople. I wanna make you guys feel the ways they do. I want them to relate to you. And we, as a team, hope that we don't disappoint.

As for why I'm still around... I've gone too deep to turn back now. I can't stop this story, and I can't let this die. Not now. Not yet.

Didn't you just repeat what I said? lol

What I meant was; why did y'all as a group decide to go with the comic approach rather than another?		2011-03-02 05:27:00

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Devious_Oatmeal
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Didn't you just repeat what I said? lol

What I meant was; why did y'all as a group decide to go with the comic approach rather than another?

Sorry. I misread. But trust me when I say that you have no idea how deep these characters are.

And, if you read Shadow's stoy on the OP, you'd know why.		2011-03-02 05:31:00

Author:
Outlaw-Jack
Posts: 5757

Yeah. I read it. I have a good idea as to how deep they get. It's all speculation of course though. 2011-03-02 05:33:00

Author:
Devious_Oatmeal
Posts: 1799

As for why I'm still around... I've gone too deep to turn back now. I can't stop this story, and I can't let this die. Not now. Not yet.

I was touched <3

There's hope for this comic yet, even if there is a shocking lack of explosions 		2011-03-02 05:37:00

Author:
MrFunctionality
Posts: 637

Perhaps the pony thread is getting too much attention. Time to start this thread up again. "CLEAR!!!"......"CLEAR!!!".......beep....beep....beep....

So... What did you mean by "Not yet."? That's a little concerning; no? lol.

Any more news from the battlefield dubbed Fatal and Fantasia...istic?		2011-03-06 01:08:00

Author:
Devious_Oatmeal
Posts: 1799

No news, but...Here's a tiny preview of one of the pages.
http://i52.tinypic.com/155mdko.jpg

The thing about long-term art-related things like this is, some pages of the comic aren't going to be up to par with the rest, because an artist can improve a lot over the course of a few months (and some pages are completed very early on, so the later ones are of course going to look better). That really bugs me, but I hope it won't be too much of a bother to those that read the comic. 		2011-03-06 01:47:00

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TheZimInvader
Posts: 3149

HOLY gasdfupasoifjwaensiaocnoejklfa;sdifj2011-03-06 01:49:00

Author:
Frinklebumper
Posts: 941

WHAAA!!!!??? Who told you to post that!?!?!?! Guess we are going to lose another artist now....

Just kidding. Hope everyone likes this small taste of what is to come. The pages are looking great guys, and I don't think people will be upset that the comic gets better looking as we work on it, sounds good to me 		2011-03-06 01:49:00

Author:
Spider-Jew
Posts: 1090

You see. That wasn't that bad of a tease. Just by that little pic we can tell that the entire look of the comic will look amazing. If that's just a snip from the beginning, and y'all say y'all are getting better, then I can say that it will be fantastic.

That nice snip will definitely raise the hype some more.		2011-03-06 01:58:00

Author:
Devious_Oatmeal
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Whew, I sure am glad Tinypic's url for images is just a bunch of random letters and numbers, otherwise someone could see the name of the file and know which page that is! 2011-03-06 01:59:00

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TheZimInvader
Posts: 3149

Spoiler Alert...it is page 723. Alright, not really.

I love how the panels are broken up...someone did a great job with that!		2011-03-06 02:02:00

Author:
Spider-Jew
Posts: 1090

Yeah. Because the page number on the bottom of that pic certainly wouldn't give that away.

lol. jk

Oh yeah... did y'all decide on how you'll distribute it?		2011-03-06 02:04:00

Author:
Devious_Oatmeal
Posts: 1799

Yeah. Because the page number on the bottom of that pic certainly wouldn't give that away.

lol. jk

Oh yeah... did y'all decide on how you'll distribute it?

You made me relook at the pic for a page number 		2011-03-06 05:17:00

Author:
Testudini
Posts: 3262

Due to the recent spreading of certain equestrians and debating/arguing of a certain someone's ban, many threads have gone off-topic lately...So, as of now, there will be absolutely no discussion regarding either of those things on this thread.
Just thought it'd be best to try and stop something before it happens. 		2011-03-06 09:02:00

Author:
TheZimInvader
Posts: 3149

Guys - pony chat in the pony thread please, stop torturing Zim. :kz:


EDIT: I know - stop that too.		2011-03-06 10:30:00

Author:
Morgana25
Posts: 5983

That wasn't aimed at Zim.


Edit: You know he deserves it.		2011-03-06 10:32:00

Author:
Bremnen
Posts: 1800

http://i52.tinypic.com/155mdko.jpg
"So where are we going to look first?"
"The basement, of course?"
"Yeah, but who is going to be crazy enough to go there, in the dark?"
"I was thinking you would. You know this place more than us..."
"Wha... Ok, I'll go..."
Ali picks up a blowtorch to light her way and goes downstairs. She can hear steps through the wooden walls.
"Concentrate..."
Suddenly, she hears something fall down on the floor. She points the light at where the noise came from, to see a bucket lying on the floor.
"Damm rats..."

That's how I see it. No commenting on how far this is from the actual comic! :kz:		2011-03-06 12:31:00

Author:
gdn001
Posts: 5891

No news, but...Here's a tiny preview of one of the pages.
http://i52.tinypic.com/155mdko.jpg

The thing about long-term art-related things like this is, some pages of the comic aren't going to be up to par with the rest, because an artist can improve a lot over the course of a few months (and some pages are completed very early on, so the later ones are of course going to look better). That really bugs me, but I hope it won't be too much of a bother to those that read the comic.

Could someone upload the picture to another site? I can't see pictures uploaded on tinypic for some reason. 		2011-03-06 12:50:00

Author:
Doopz
Posts: 5592

Could someone upload the picture to another site? I can't see pictures uploaded on tinypic for some reason.
Only coz I love you. <3
http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/4821/155mdko.png
(I can't see pics by Imageshack btw)		2011-03-06 12:56:00

Author:
gdn001
Posts: 5891

"So where are we going to look first?"
"The basement, of course?"
"Yeah, but who is going to be crazy enough to go there, in the dark?"
"I was thinking you would. You know this place more than us..."
"Wha... Ok, I'll go..."
Ali picks up a blowtorch to light her way and goes downstairs. She can hear steps through the wooden walls.
"Concentrate..."
Suddenly, she hears something fall down on the floor. She points the light at where the noise came from, to see a bucket lying on the floor.
"Damm rats..."

That's how I see it. No commenting on how far this is from the actual comic! :kz:

lol. The only thing I didn't get was the basement. It looks more like an attic. If that's a basement, then that entire building must be only wood.

Plus, you can see someone's cloak. *COUGH* *SHADOW* *COUGH*

It seems like Shadow is a stalker. Poor Ali. And naughty naughty Shadow.

I can't really tell whether it's an incline or a hallway. Then the second panel confuses me even more because there aren't any stairs. Then I thought "Ok, it's an incline because of the walls in panel 2". But then I looked at panel 1 and the walls didn't match up. i Am CaBaFfLeD.		2011-03-06 14:59:00

Author:
Devious_Oatmeal
Posts: 1799

lol. The only thing I didn't get was the basement. It looks more like an attic. If that's a basement, then that entire building must be only wood.

Plus, you can see someone's cloak. *COUGH* *SHADOW* *COUGH*

It seems like Shadow is a stalker. Poor Ali. And naughty naughty Shadow.

I can't really tell whether it's an incline or a hallway. Then the second panel confuses me even more because there aren't any stairs. Then I thought "Ok, it's an incline because of the walls in panel 2. But then I looked at panel 1 and the walls didn't match up. i Am CaBaFfLeD.

I don't see what ya mean...The stairs are right there in panel 2.
And considering Ali seems to be going down in the second panel, I think it's safe to assume that she's going to the basement, yes?		2011-03-06 20:38:00

Author:
TheZimInvader
Posts: 3149

Which is why I was confused.

Look at the wall in panel 1. It's following the vanishing point of the stairs. Yet in panel 2 the wood pattern on the wall is horizontal and the railings on the stairs are diagonal. I also couldn't see any "edges" of the stairs, so (to me) it looked like either an incline ramp or an angle you used to emphasize movement.

I'm not saying it's horrible. It looks really nice, similar to the artwork on "BONES".		2011-03-06 20:53:00

Author:
Devious_Oatmeal
Posts: 1799

Which is why I was confused.

Look at the wall in panel 1. It's following the vanishing point of the stairs. Yet in panel 2 the wood pattern on the wall is horizontal and the railings on the stairs are diagonal. I also couldn't see any "edges" of the stairs, so (to me) it looked like either an incline ramp or an angle you used to emphasize movement.

I'm not saying it's horrible. It looks really nice, similar to the artwork on "BONES".

Well in the first panel, the wood pattern IS following the vanishing point, as you said, to emphasize movement - If it was straight, like in the second panel, it would look flat and a sense of perspective would be almost non-existent. The wood slats in the second panel ARE straight because that's, well, just how they are.		2011-03-06 20:57:00

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I'm not saying the wood on the walls in the first panel need to be completely horizontal, they just weren't prospectively horizontal.

Let's ignore the second panel for right now, and just focus on the first panel.

If you just look at the first panel, does it honestly look like she is walking down a hall?		2011-03-06 21:11:00

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Devious_Oatmeal
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I'm not saying the wood on the walls in the first panel need to be completely horizontal, they just weren't prospectively horizontal.

Let's ignore the second panel for right now, and just focus on the first panel.

If you just look at the first panel, does it honestly look like she is walking down a hall?

I see...With the wooden slats following the vanishing point, it looks more like she's walking down a hallway than a flight of stairs. If they were straight, like they should be, you'd be able to tell that the stairs are going downwards. Yes?		2011-03-06 21:19:00

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TheZimInvader
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Yes. But they shouldn't be too straight, like you said, if they are too straight they'll lose the illusion.2011-03-06 21:36:00

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Devious_Oatmeal
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I honestly think discussing the accuracy of the artwork before the comic is even finished is a bit of a bad idea. Here are three contentions as to why.
1. They will not want to be giving us any more sneak peeks. Honestly, it was a nice update on the look and progress of the comic.
2. These guys aren't professionals who have made careers out of this. They're young dudes who decided to do something awesome. But they're still young dudes.
3. They are doing this for free after all.

This does not imply, however, that criticism is out of the question. Just saying.		2011-03-06 23:25:00

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Astrosimi
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I wasn't trying to ruin this sweet update, but I thought I'd give some advice to Zim. I'm not saying I'm better than her (Believe me, she beats me in this department), just some info from one artist to another.

I'm more of a realistic artist. Like still life and black and white. I wish I wasn't a still life though.... It's such a boring art-form from my perspective. :C		2011-03-06 23:31:00

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Devious_Oatmeal
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Waiting.....waiting...PRAYING TO GOD THAT ITS GOING TO BE WORTH THE WAIT.....more waiting2011-03-07 18:51:00

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butter-kicker
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Waiting.....waiting...PRAYING TO GOD THAT ITS GOING TO BE WORTH THE WAIT.....more waiting
Woo-hoo they're halfway there...		2011-03-07 18:54:00

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gdn001
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Can I ask how the comic will be presented?

I mean, would it be a vertical string of images in an LBPCentral post or something different?		2011-03-07 22:46:00

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Incinerator22
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Can I ask how the comic will be presented?

I mean, would it be a vertical string of images in an LBPCentral post or something different?

We're still debating how to go about it.		2011-03-07 22:51:00

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TheZimInvader
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I would say a post with the issue, on the OP and maybe try to bribe CC with cookies and milk so he puts a large banner on top of the site. :kz:2011-03-07 22:54:00

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gdn001
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Good question cin

My thought is posting a complete thread with the main cover showing for all to see and the rest of the pages hidden in labeled spoiler tags...

As for the layout of the comic itll be read from left to right

Also we will try and find a way to include a download link for all to download just incase people can't see the images so we dont have to go editing the thread or anything...

And in that thread people can discuss whay theyve read so far as well as ask questions for about the next issue and such.

Also thinking of doong other stuff but for now this isnt set in stone so everything is subject to change.		2011-03-07 22:55:00

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Shadowcrazy
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Do y'all have a group for the public? So it would be a lot more organized. Like a thread for Issue #1, 2, 3........

Not sure how long you plan on running this comic, but it's better to prepare for later.

Labeled spoiler tags for each page? Why not just name the tags Page 1, 2, 3........ Makes it easier to refer to them.		2011-03-07 23:26:00

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Devious_Oatmeal
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Good question cin

My thought is etc...
Just a suggestion to go along with this.
Why not start up a free website using something such as webs. You could still post the comic here for those who CBB to go to the site, but, those who do will be greeted by a much nicer layout and look compared to pages in spoiler tags. Not to mention you could set it up so people could easily navigate to back issues or extras such as bios, fan art, etc.

Would be very cool IMO and wouldn't be very hard to do.

Another option I would suggest you think about would be an interactive PDF. Just a left and right button is all that would be needed to let people flick from page to page. This way people could download it as a single file and read it even if they can't connect to the internet.

Just my 2c		2011-03-07 23:43:00

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SR20DETDOG
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Maybe CC could set up a section of LBPC like lbpcentral.com/wiki?

Don't take this from me as a mod though, take this from me as a clueless guy who doesn't even know if this is likely to happen.

So yeah, you could ask him and see what he thinks.		2011-03-07 23:49:00

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warlord_evil
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Another option I would suggest you think about would be an interactive PDF. Just a left and right button is all that would be needed to let people flick from page to page. This way people could download it as a single file and read it even if they can't connect to the internet.

I vote for this. More time looking at art and less time moving your mouse.		2011-03-07 23:51:00

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Incinerator22
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Oh and another thing. Keep in mind the PS3's browser isn't able to open spoilers.2011-03-07 23:58:00

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SR20DETDOG
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Labeled spoiler tags for each page? Why not just name the tags Page 1, 2, 3........ Makes it easier to refer to them.

Because to see those page numbers youd need to open the spoiler tag....and if it doesnt have the page number labeled on the spoiler tag then youd be confused and opening random/all tags...pages are going to have numbers obviously...but the soiler tags labeled are to reduce confusion

@ SR20 - trust me im with ya there with the site and PDF...only issue is idk how to do any of that or know anybody who could...anybody with those abilities are welcome to help us out and we'd greatly appreciate it...but for now we dont have the luxury of those awesome ideas until we have someone who can help us		2011-03-08 00:49:00

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Shadowcrazy
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@ SR20 - trust me im with ya there with the site and PDF...only issue is idk how to do any of that or know anybody who could...anybody with those abilities are welcome to help us out and we'd greatly appreciate it...but for now we dont have the luxury of those awesome ideas until we have someone who can help us
SO, if I were to say that I can do it, you'd let me?		2011-03-08 00:56:00

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SR20DETDOG
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SO, if I were to say that I can do it, you'd let me?

Sounds like a good idea...lemme discuss with the team...oh and is there a way that you could embed music on each site page? Cuz im thinking of adding music for certain pages of the comic so im hoping theres a way to do that		2011-03-08 03:59:00

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Shadowcrazy
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Sounds like a good idea...lemme discuss with the team...oh and is there a way that you could embed music on each site page? Cuz im thinking of adding music for certain pages of the comic so im hoping theres a way to do that

Unless Webs has changed majorly in the past few years, I believe you can.		2011-03-08 04:00:00

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Testudini
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Sounds like this graphic novel series could turn out to be very dynamic in terms of extra content and little details that just make it more vibrant and alive2011-03-08 04:05:00

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Shadowcrazy
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Sounds like a good idea...lemme discuss with the team...oh and is there a way that you could embed music on each site page? Cuz im thinking of adding music for certain pages of the comic so im hoping theres a way to do that

I smell copyright issuuuuuues...
As for SR2 doing the presentation whatever thing, would that mean he would be part of the group, or we would just give him each issue to put together as they're finished, and he gets to see it only a few days before everyone else? :L		2011-03-08 05:29:00

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TheZimInvader
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I smell copyright issuuuuuues...
As for SR2 doing the presentation whatever thing, would that mean he would be part of the group, or we would just give him each issue to put together as they're finished, and he gets to see it only a few days before everyone else? :L

this sounds more like a "discuss in our PRIVATE group" deal don't ya think?		2011-03-08 05:32:00

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Shadowcrazy
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Unless Webs has changed majorly in the past few years, I believe you can.
I won't be using the tools webs gives you anyway. I'll be using the straight HTML version, so I can do whatever I want.		2011-03-08 07:57:00

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SR20DETDOG
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A dedicated web page(s)... I think the main question here is, will y'all be able to keep up with it?

The comic already takes too much time from some of the people working on the comic. And there isn't even enough content to fill a page on a web page here yet.

I too had thought of a web page before I said the group, but decided not to give that as an option due to time restraints. Education is far more important than the comic.

But if you guys think y'all can handle it, go for it. Maybe even make money off of merchandising or advertisement.		2011-03-08 10:03:00

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Devious_Oatmeal
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A dedicated web page(s)... I think the main question here is, will y'all be able to keep up with it?

The comic already takes too much time from some of the people working on the comic. And there isn't even enough content to fill a page on a web page here yet.

I too had thought of a web page before I said the group, but decided not to give that as an option due to time restraints. Education is far more important than the comic.

But if you guys think y'all can handle it, go for it. Maybe even make money off of merchandising or advertisement.
Well, I'm finding myself with more time then I know what to do with so I updating it won't be a problem. As long as you put careful thought and consideration into building the site properly then it shouldn't take much effort to update, the real work is in getting up in the first place. As for content, no, there won't be much to start with but that's just the nature of these things. We might end up with more content than a free website can handle one day but I think that's getting a bit to far ahead of ourselves.		2011-03-08 11:03:00

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SR20DETDOG
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That wasn't just directed at you. It was also directed to the entire FF group.

But if you're up to it and they think they can handle it for some time, I say go for it.		2011-03-08 11:30:00

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Devious_Oatmeal
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Sounds like a good idea...lemme discuss with the team...oh and is there a way that you could embed music on each site page? Cuz im thinking of adding music for certain pages of the comic so im hoping theres a way to do that

I could imagine this become an interactive comic (Almost video playthrough, with a voice cast and music)		2011-03-08 19:59:00

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Nurolight
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Here's an example of what you could do as well. Not sure if it was what Tommy was talking about.


A Bid For Freedom (http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/492411)		2011-03-08 22:40:00

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Devious_Oatmeal
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If this was ever going to include voice acting (most likely not), then it would be in the form of an animation (which is also very unlikely, seeing as how I don't own Flash or know a thing about animation).
Good voice actors with quality mics are very difficult to find...And if it's not done absolutely perfectly, it'll look very unprofessional and laughable.

So, we're sticking to regular old comic form for now.		2011-03-08 22:44:00

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TheZimInvader
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If this was ever going to include voice acting (most likely not), then it would be in the form of an animation (which is also very unlikely, seeing as how I don't own Flash or know a thing about animation).
Good voice actors with quality mics are very difficult to find...And if it's not done absolutely perfectly, it'll look very unprofessional and laughable.

So, we're sticking to regular old comic form for now.
Not to mention that Zim wouldn't do voice acting even if they paid her. 		2011-03-08 22:46:00

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gdn001
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Not to mention that Zim wouldn't do voice acting even if they paid her.

That, too.		2011-03-08 22:49:00

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TheZimInvader
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If this was ever going to include voice acting (most likely not), then it would be in the form of an animation (which is also very unlikely, seeing as how I don't own Flash or know a thing about animation).
Good voice actors with quality mics are very difficult to find...And if it's not done absolutely perfectly, it'll look very unprofessional and laughable.

So, we're sticking to regular old comic form for now.
So you'll do it later on? 		2011-03-08 23:02:00

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SR20DETDOG
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So you'll do it later on?

I added the "for now", because who knows what could happen in a large time span? We'd like to do animation, but we don't have the resources to do so right now. Maybe further down the line - But that's only a maybe, and nothing more.		2011-03-08 23:07:00

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TheZimInvader
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I added the "for now", because who knows what could happen in a large time span? We'd like to do animation, but we don't have the resources to do so right now. Maybe further down the line - But that's only a maybe, and nothing more.
Huh. 		2011-03-08 23:11:00

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gdn001
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If this was ever going to include voice acting (most likely not), then it would be in the form of an animation (which is also very unlikely, seeing as how I don't own Flash or know a thing about animation).
Good voice actors with quality mics are very difficult to find...And if it's not done absolutely perfectly, it'll look very unprofessional and laughable.

So, we're sticking to regular old comic form for now.

The link in my last post was unprofessional.

Were there any concerns on the music in the comic?

Well.... What if you did the comic then had a camera go through it. Like panel by panel. You can add sounds and music. It would look amazing.

By the way, something doesn't need to be animated in order for you to have a reason to voice over. Think of it as a audio book.		2011-03-08 23:12:00

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Devious_Oatmeal
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Your Opinion Needed

Simple enough question. Would you rather have the comic as a PDF or as a Flash File (SWF)?
Oh and choosing Flash does not mean it will be animated.		2011-03-08 23:42:00

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SR20DETDOG
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Not involved in the comic but I believe Flash is more widely supported? Both formats are Adobe, but still, Flash is what we use for Youtube.2011-03-09 01:14:00

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Astrosimi
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Flash, definitely. Since then we could possibly apply it to other sites that let you upload content (dA, Newgrounds).

If we ever do use Flash as an animation tool, it'd probably just start out with just sounds and simple animation. And if any one of the team members ever takes an interest into more complex animation, then you'd be seeing more "animated short"-type of work and possibly voice acting (Which btw, if we ever do that, I'm voicing myself. That is all.).

I actually believe that if we just have Flash to work and improve on, we could most definitely see this becoming an interactive comic, maybe even a flash series with fine voice actors. We've got a long road ahead, so I'd keep that out there in the realm of "possibility" more-so than "unlikely"... and since I'll most likely be taking this to college so I'll definitely look for Flash animation classes. xD		2011-03-09 05:32:00

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Outlaw-Jack
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Your Opinion not Needed

I've weighed up the pros and cons of each and have come to the decision that while PDF would be easier at first, if the comic was to advance in any other way (e.g. voice acting, animation w/e) PDF just wouldn't cut it.

So Flash it is.		2011-03-09 05:52:00

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SR20DETDOG
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(Which btw, if we ever do that, I'm voicing myself. That is all.).

same here...shadowcrazy is basically like a second persona to me...so I'd like to think he shares my same voice...such a shame that most mics/cameras limit my voice and make me sound girly/goofy...hopefully someone finds a solution

but yeah tbh someone mentioned it earlier the comic doesn't HAVE to be animated like a cartoon...but basically show the panel without the text (or with) and with music playing, and voice acting...coupled with panels shaking and moving depending on situations.

perfect example of this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQjGubgZ4LM)

so yeah if we were ever to make it an animated comic I could imagine it'd be more easier lol...and i'd like it too...but yeah for now I just want issue 1 done ASAP lol

and ummm yeah now we have lots to discuss based on all these ideas swirling about...scuse me *swooosh!*		2011-03-09 06:07:00

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Shadowcrazy
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lol. Are any of you familiar with Tom Goes to the Mayor? Just saying..... There's that direction as well.2011-03-09 06:21:00

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Devious_Oatmeal
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Well.... What if you did the comic then had a camera go through it. Like panel by panel. You can add sounds and music. It would look amazing.

By the way, something doesn't need to be animated in order for you to have a reason to voice over. Think of it as a audio book.

That's sort of what I meant... Should have been more clear
Like the PSP digital comics, where it would run through showing each panel, with the speech Being voiced over and ambient background music.		2011-03-09 16:15:00

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Nurolight
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Hey guys, I just want to clear something up.
I've been working on FF constantly, even when I'm busy with schoolwork and other IRL things. I've had very little free time lately. It can get pretty tiring drawing the same characters or environments over and over and over again, so I can hit an art block with the comic sometimes - When this happens, I take a little break for a day (which, after all my schoolwork for the day is finished, translates into an hour or so) to work on some personal art. I hope all of you understand that I have my OWN life, and that FF isn't the only thing important to me. I should have the freedom to choose how to spend the little free time that I have, and 80% of that time, I choose to work on FF.

I want to thank you all for being so patient these past few months - Hopefully you can wait just a little longer.		2011-03-09 23:24:00

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TheZimInvader
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I'm pretty sure that's directed at me. So I apologize.

We've waited so far. Like you said, what's another year? 		2011-03-09 23:37:00

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Devious_Oatmeal
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I'm pretty sure that's directed at me. So I apologize.

Woah woah woah, that was not directed at anyone in specific - Especially not you. I don't see what you said that would make you think I directed it at you.		2011-03-09 23:39:00

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TheZimInvader
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I don't recall ever saying that Zim.......

It's nice to hear that it wasn't directed at me. 		2011-03-10 00:28:00

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Devious_Oatmeal
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Last edited by Cryogen; 2 Hours Ago at 06:30 PM.
I do recall you saying that. :kz:		2011-03-10 03:15:00

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warlord_evil
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Personally I think an interactive comic would lose some of the charm (sackpeople shouldn't talk) and have ineffective extra-time : cinematic-impact ratio.2011-03-10 04:20:00

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Incinerator22
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I do recall you saying that. :kz:

lol. I did say that. I just didn't want to clog the thread with pointlessness. So I changed it to something useful. I'll edit it and strike it.


Personally I think an interactive comic would lose some of the charm (sackpeople shouldn't talk) and have ineffective extra-time : cinematic-impact ratio.

They're going to have the sackfolk talk in bubbles anyways. So it shouldn't hurt to have voices. And the change shouldn't be done till at least issue 2 or 3 comes out.		2011-03-10 04:28:00

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Devious_Oatmeal
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lol. I did say that. I just didn't want to clog the thread with pointlessness. So I changed it to something useful. I'll edit it and strike it.



They're going to have the sackfolk talk in bubbles anyways. So it shouldn't hurt to have voices. And the change shouldn't be done till at least issue 2 or 3 comes out.

I don't think it's going to happen that early, if at all. We're just going to stick to regular comic format, it'll save a lot of time and stress.		2011-03-10 04:47:00

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TheZimInvader
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So that's the final word of the group?2011-03-10 04:49:00

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Devious_Oatmeal
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They're going to have the sackfolk talk in bubbles anyways. So it shouldn't hurt to have voices.

Dogs make good pets, and I have a dog. So I guess it shouldn't hurt for me to buy a lion.

Your logic makes no sense.

Text bubbles are nothing new. I meant human speech.		2011-03-10 04:54:00

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Incinerator22
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Dogs make good pets, and I have a dog. So I guess it shouldn't hurt for me to buy a lion.

Your logic makes no sense.

Text bubbles are nothing new. I meant human speech.

I knew what you were talking about. But if they were going to be adding sounds and music, voice wouldn't be a bad addition. I can't think of a good example of a "thing" having music and sounds, but no voice that ISN'T a game.		2011-03-10 06:03:00

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Devious_Oatmeal
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@Cryo: The only comics I read with music and sounds (plus minor animation) was the LEGO Johnny Thunder: Orient Expedition Interactive Comic. It had scores like Indiana Jones, looked clean and cartoony, and NO voices. And if there were any, it was the villain cackling.

So, music and sounds would be nice, but it isn't necessary to throw-in voices along with it. Besides, I think we'll just let y'all imagine what they'd sound like until (if ever) we get an actual animation up.		2011-03-10 06:08:00

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Outlaw-Jack
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@Cryo: The only comics I read with music and sounds (plus minor animation) was the LEGO Johnny Thunder: Orient Expedition Interactive Comic. It had scores like Indiana Jones, looked clean and cartoony, and NO voices. And if there were any, it was the villain cackling.

So, music and sounds would be nice, but it isn't necessary to throw-in voices along with it. Besides, I think we'll just let y'all imagine what they'd sound like until (if ever) we get an actual animation up.

or Maybe, Mm willing, we could use the LBP sounds for voices while people read...like how we do with villains cackling in our levels and such		2011-03-10 06:52:00

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Shadowcrazy
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I don't really like this whole idea in the first place...I say we should just leave the comic as it is. Adding sounds and voice acting and all that is only going to take more time and work, and I honestly don't think it's necessary.2011-03-10 06:58:00

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TheZimInvader
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It's not really necessary, but a really good addition.2011-03-10 07:56:00

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Devious_Oatmeal
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It's not really necessary, but a really good addition.

Personally I just want to see some great art and dialog......and that's all.		2011-03-10 08:45:00

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MrFunctionality
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In worst cases you can go on Youtube and pick a fitting song or soundtrack while you read the comic. 2011-03-10 17:33:00

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gdn001
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It's not really necessary, but a really good addition.

I never thought of it being done straight away...

Maye give it 60 years + like the real digital comics 		2011-03-10 17:46:00

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Nurolight
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In worst cases you can go on Youtube and pick a fitting song or soundtrack while you read the comic.

Or you never know. Maybe a big fan will make their own voices and video with the comic.


I never thought of it being done straight away...

Maye give it 60 years + like the real digital comics

I didn't think it would be straight away either. I figured 2/3 issues would take like 4-6 months.		2011-03-10 23:07:00

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Devious_Oatmeal
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It's not really necessary, but a really good addition.

Or you could consider that they are not obligated to do this for your entertainment before suggesting any "really good additions"

Can you just be happy that their doing this in the first place and end it?		2011-03-10 23:21:00

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Silver39
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I find that trying to do the best the first time isn't a good thing to do...you should stick with what you have in the comic, implementing something like dialog and sound could be all too difficult for a first try, simply another obstacle that would bog down the comic. Your goal is to release issue one, but you're just stopping and adding on to that goal, making it a tremendous task; goals should be quick and easy to obtain.

However, slowly building up each issue with new things never hurts, just implement a little at a time, see what works and see what doesn't.

In a short example, it's like a fine city - you don't build all of it and then let all the people in, rather, one building is risen up, and the rest of the buildings will simply fit in as they're built one by one.		2011-03-10 23:28:00

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warlord_evil
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Or you could consider that they are not obligated to do this for your entertainment before suggesting any "really good additions"

Can you just be happy that their doing this in the first place and end it?

Like ^ said, it is just for entertainment from others for others(and maybe moresome...)

When I heard of this project, I was thinking, they'll be done by XX/XX/XX, but then, I thought to myself and think'd, it must take longer to draw because it can take like 3.5 hours to draw a object, so it will come 'soon'

I'm not saying people are being a bit saucy about this, but I hope everyone knows they do have the power to put the project on hiatus, or even worse, cancellation.		2011-03-10 23:33:00

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Spazz
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Why does everybody think I said it should be done right away? I never said that.

And they are only suggestions, no one's forcing this on them. All I said was that they could be great additions.

Also, I realize they control everything about the comic. I'm going to say it because I'm sure someone else will say it.

They are providing us with a great service here. They choose what happens, they choose what doesn't, they have the detonator, and they have the power.

Not to mention that they are doing this so they maybe can showcase their talents and learn some stuff.		2011-03-10 23:40:00

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Devious_Oatmeal
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I find that trying to do the best the first time isn't a good thing to do...you should stick with what you have in the comic, implementing something like dialog and sound could be all too difficult for a first try, simply another obstacle that would bog down the comic. Your goal is to release issue one, but you're just stopping and adding on to that goal, making it a tremendous task; goals should be quick and easy to obtain.

However, slowly building up each issue with new things never hurts, just implement a little at a time, see what works and see what doesn't.

In a short example, it's like a fine city - you don't build all of it and then let all the people in, rather, one building is risen up, and the rest of the buildings will simply fit in as they're built one by one.

I see yer point it does take more time to do this and more stress on my friends. Sorry guys this is mostly what pops in my head since i want this to be as awesome as i had it pictured in my head when i created fatal fantasia.

But youre right we should pace ourselves and get issue 1 done before thinking of any cool addition.

But i will say this...we are making a website to archive the issues for future viewing/downloading and i have SR20 makin some cool stuff on the site that you guys will nostalgia over

An also to raise a poll from the dead i think both flash and pdf can be used...flash for regular viewing and a pdf for an optional download...and of course a zip folder with all the pages as png images for old school people like myself...well thats my suggestion/plan but its not set in stone just yet until my team tells me its possible for them to achieve without stress since time consumption isnt a factor in the site since that we can take our time with		2011-03-10 23:52:00

Author:
Shadowcrazy
Posts: 3365

An also to raise a poll from the dead i think both flash and pdf can be used...flash for regular viewing and a pdf for an optional download...and of course a zip folder with all the pages as png images for old school people like myself...well thats my suggestion/plan but its not set in stone just yet until my team tells me its possible for them to achieve without stress since time consumption isnt a factor in the site since that we can take our time with

Having every issue as SWF, PDF, ZIP and PNG's wouldn't take long to do at all.
The limitation here is how much storage and bandwidth we have, or lack thereof. Unless someone's willing to pay for more we're stuck with the small amount we get free, which will still last us a long time if we're smart about things.

But I don't think having 4 different versions of each issue all on the website is a good idea. Maybe have the SWF versions on the website and the PNG's here or something.

EDIT: I just like to add that I'm not saying it's impossible with the storage and bandwidth we have, but, that we should see how things look after the first few issues.		2011-03-11 00:36:00

Author:
SR20DETDOG
Posts: 2431

Well considering how long this series is planned to be currently we might want to stick to the one that takes up the least bandwith/etc.

Which idk which one does but yeah lol im sure we'll think of something.		2011-03-11 00:52:00

Author:
Shadowcrazy
Posts: 3365

Well considering how long this series is planned to be currently we might want to stick to the one that takes up the least bandwith/etc.

Which idk which one does but yeah lol im sure we'll think of something.
I may, as in might, maybe, not for certain, have a solution that would give us plenty of storage space and not use up all our bandwidth.		2011-03-11 01:03:00

Author:
SR20DETDOG
Posts: 2431

I'm pretty sure pacts with the devil aren't going to work in favor of the others. XD jk. I couldn't resist.

But seriously, will the site be up when issue 1 is done? (That rhymed)		2011-03-11 02:53:00

Author:
Devious_Oatmeal
Posts: 1799

If issue 1 is done first then we'll release it in a thread...if the site finishes and we can upload the issue there then we'll do that2011-03-11 03:04:00

Author:
Shadowcrazy
Posts: 3365

I'm pretty sure pacts with the devil aren't going to work in favor of the others. XD jk. I couldn't resist.

But seriously, will the site be up when issue 1 is done? (That rhymed)
It's hard to say, there's just too many variables to know what will happen.		2011-03-11 03:33:00

Author:
SR20DETDOG
Posts: 2431

*Comments to bring spark in thread*

What would happen if a member in the team dropped out? Will you guys temporarily stop the project to find another or just continue on? Or does it depend on the person in the group?		2011-03-16 20:00:00

Author:
Spazz
Posts: 484

*Comments to bring spark in thread*

What would happen if a member in the team dropped out? Will you guys temporarily stop the project to find another or just continue on? Or does it depend on the person in the group?

It depends on what that person's position was.		2011-03-16 20:33:00

Author:
TheZimInvader
Posts: 3149

FATAL FANTASIA is cancelled and there will be no explanations as to why and there will be no more discussion on the matter...please MODS lock this thread and if it's possible delete it please and thank you.2011-03-25 07:35:00

Author:
Shadowcrazy
Posts: 3365

I can't help but say I'm not surprised for some reason. -_-

At least post what y'all have done. Sheesh.		2011-03-25 09:41:00

Author:
Devious_Oatmeal
Posts: 1799

Seven days early, seven days early D:
I think I know why it was cancelled, saw it coming from a mile away.

EDIT: Now its confirmed why its cancelled. TheZimInvader and Outlaw_Jack weren't pleased with how Shadowcrazy was treating everybody (big surprise ), and posted something in the group. I imagine they were either quitting or wanted Shadowcrazy out. Whatever happened next, them quitting or Shadowcrazy not wanting to be away from his beloved, the project was cancelled. Source is TheZimInvader's profile page, and common knowledge.		2011-03-25 14:16:00

Author:
Testudini
Posts: 3262


im sad its cancelled
well, so nice work all Fatal Fantasia team
also, zim and all the team, could u post all the project work you people did?
being finished or not, we are all congratulating all you guys.
Nice work.
.ViniciusBR11		2011-03-25 16:06:00

Author:
ViniciusBR11
Posts: 546

Locked at request of the OP2011-03-25 16:47:00

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