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Sony rolls out Welcome Back Program (was: PlayStation Store Returns)

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It seems the PSN is still down in Oklahoma.

I have someone on my friends list from Oklahoma and they've been on several times this week.
2011-05-20 23:25:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


yeah right! keep dreamin'. I agree with you about the other stuff tho. I refuse to buy games anymore without first playing a demo or renting them or just waiting till they hit the discount rack. I despise buying a game for $60 us and beating it in 2 to 3 hours. The only games that I will get are games I know are monsters, like LBP, Fallout and Mass Effect. But, I never turn down free. Even if the game sucks, I have no money tied up in it.

Of course I was being a total jokster saying that. I know that we wouldn't see that. I did think we'd see the God of War collection 1+2. I've never seen a game so good go for so cheap. GOW is always on sale or reduced. I have all of the games. But give me the 60 extra for my plus and I'm good to go. I was happy to hear that they were continuing plus exactly where they left off, actually they are doing that for the entire store. They said be ready for a couple store updates a week. I guess so we don't miss out and they can get everything back on track. I'm just ready for the 3rd installment of Back to the Future, it looks so good. I love that series.
2011-05-20 23:35:00

Author:
METALPUNKS
Posts: 306


I have someone on my friends list from Oklahoma and they've been on several times this week.

Thats wierd, wonder why I can't get on then.

Are you sure they still live in Oklahoma?
2011-05-20 23:51:00

Author:
aceofthorns
Posts: 288


Are you sure they still live in Oklahoma?

Yes .
2011-05-21 00:00:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


Yes.


Hmmm wierd... Maybe its my PSP thats messing up.
2011-05-21 00:03:00

Author:
aceofthorns
Posts: 288


All this talk about full games and how that sucks. In my experience there are times where I paid 60usd for a full game and it sucked

We still pay $100 AUD for games... and our dollar is better than yours.

Also I will get the PSP LBP, but as I said I'm super addicted, so it may be a little unhealthy!
2011-05-21 01:32:00

Author:
Mr_Fusion
Posts: 1799


I pay the equivalent of 120 USD for every game and I'm happy with what they are offering. I WIN. :kz:2011-05-21 01:45:00

Author:
gdn001
Posts: 5891


I pay the equivalent of 120 USD for every game and I'm happy with what they are offering. I WIN. :kz:
Or lose, depending on how you look at things.

I now get my games from PlayAsia, the US price + Shipping is still far cheaper than getting it in store.

I bought the add ons for Assassins Creed 2 and discovered that by purchasing the US game I can't purchase AU DLC because the DLC is region locked...
2011-05-21 02:40:00

Author:
Mr_Fusion
Posts: 1799


We still pay $100 AUD for games... and our dollar is better than yours.

Also I will get the PSP LBP, but as I said I'm super addicted, so it may be a little unhealthy!


Wow. That's crazy. I don't mind paying good money for a good game. I once said I would pay 200 bucks for LBP2 if the prices went way up and I did not have it. I just hate when you get really excited about a game and it falls short. Paying 60usd for a game that sucks isn't nearly as bad as paying 60usd for a good game that's 2 or 3 hrs long. Now that's what I was talking about. You spend all this time getting so excited and waiting for it to come out, you wait in the cold for hours at a midnight release, you get home and beat it by 6am. That SUCKS! I can't even remember what games that happened with because it hardly ever happens.

My thing is I just like a long game or a game with high replay value.

I was recently trying to convince my friend to buy LBP2, he said he would never waste 60usd on a kids game. He obviously had no idea what this game can do. When I hear people say that I get so mad. Gosh even if you hate the game purchase it for renditions of the best games from the 80's and 90's. In fact I love that LBP is so inexpensive, seeing what it can do. The game is the best 60 bucks I've ever spent as far as video gaming.
2011-05-21 04:15:00

Author:
METALPUNKS
Posts: 306


Why cant I still cant play games onlines with my japaness PSN account? Can anyone find out please.2011-05-21 06:27:00

Author:
venat
Posts: 715


Why cant I still cant play games onlines with my japaness PSN account? Can anyone find out please.

Japanese government said no to turning the PSN on there.
2011-05-21 06:36:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


Japanese government said no to turning the PSN on there.

Because? I mainly want to know how long this is gonna take.
2011-05-21 07:21:00

Author:
venat
Posts: 715


So, any news on when the brazilian accounts are going to be able to reset their passwords again? I waited patiently for PSN to be restored and now I can't reset my password... Even considering creating a new account...2011-05-21 22:11:00

Author:
gdn001
Posts: 5891


So, any news on when the brazilian accounts are going to be able to reset their passwords again? I waited patiently for PSN to be restored and now I can't reset my password... Even considering creating a new account...

If you can actually sign into PSN, you should be asked to change you password as soon as you do.
2011-05-21 22:30:00

Author:
Aya042
Posts: 2870


If you can actually sign into PSN, you should be asked to change you password as soon as you do.
The problem is: when I try to sign in from the PS3, it sends me an email and that's all. When I acess the link provided in the email, it either says "server under mainentance" or "the store is not available in your region". I wonder if Sony even cares about their users that aren't from US, Europe or Japan...
2011-05-21 22:33:00

Author:
gdn001
Posts: 5891


Because? I mainly want to know how long this is gonna take.

...because ther government said no, I'm positive if he knew more he'd said so, as far as I'm informed, they aren't convinced yet the network is secure enough and are checking with Sony to see how more safe the information is from before, no date on when it'll be up as of yet.


If you can actually sign into PSN, you should be asked to change you password as soon as you do.


The problem is: when I try to sign in from the PS3, it sends me an email and that's all. When I acess the link provided in the email, it either says "server under mainentance" or "the store is not available in your region". I wonder if Sony even cares about their users that aren't from US, Europe or Japan...
If I remember correctly, they turned off the Password reset, since people found a way to exploit a glitch in the system that allowed to get others accounts by resetting them in their account, or something like that, in short, people figured out to use password reset in their favore, people realizes Sony stops password reset.

(Tl:dr: If you couldn't reset your password earlier on, you're screwed for a while.)
I'll see if I can find the link to that in a bit.
2011-05-21 22:54:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707


I searched the web and found out that brazilians were having issues to reset their passwords before they took down the login page. Many sites were suggesting that they used the exploit to reset their own passwords. Then Sony takes down the reset page, and if it goes back up and we still aren't able to reset our passwords, then I have to say, Sony is telling us to go **** ourselves.2011-05-21 22:58:00

Author:
gdn001
Posts: 5891


The problem is: when I try to sign in from the PS3, it sends me an email and that's all.

Strange. When I first signed in, it just prompted me to change password, then everything just worked.

FWIW, there's a news article (http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/34739/Sony_Tells_Dev_Partners_PlayStation_Store_To_Retur n_May_24.php) from a couple of days ago suggesting the PS Store will be back on May 24th, so perhaps the password reset stuff will be fixed at the same time.

Only other thing I can suggest is contacting your local Sony customer services department, although I can't seem to locate any information for Brazil.
2011-05-21 22:59:00

Author:
Aya042
Posts: 2870


I heard it has something to do with "account activation" on a certain PS3 - if you have "activated" your account, then you can reset your password right off the bat. I read somewhere that this "activation" depends on if you downloaded anything from that account. Brazilian accounts don't even have Store acess...2011-05-21 23:03:00

Author:
gdn001
Posts: 5891


I heard it has something to do with "account activation" on a certain PS3 - if you have "activated" your account, then you can reset your password right off the bat. I read somewhere that this "activation" depends on if you downloaded anything from that account. Brazilian accounts don't even have Store acess...

You were only allowed to reset you password on a Playstation that you created an account on. Or activated an account on. Something like that.

I am on my 2rd PS3 since launch and I downloaded the patch the first day expecting to have to use the email thing, but when I finally got to log in it prompted me right away, as I had activated this PS3 with my account information by purchasing content from the store apparently. Not having access to the store in Brazil is probably what messed you up.

Saying SONY doesn't care is a little too far. It is true that they address markets one at a time and that other countries (like me in Australia, and you in Brazil) get the sharp end of the stick with games prices as well as technology (the PS3 cost $1000 in Australia at launch), a lot of it comes down to governments, taxes and just the amount of people in the country.

Remember that Japan also hasn't gone live yet and I'm sure no one is saying 'SONY doesn't care about Japan' I hope you can get online soon, and I know that being somewhere other than Japan, UK or US you feel a little left out like I do sometimes. You never really see release dates/timeframes/cool promotions, you lag servers and it takes ages to connect to some games.

But there is lots of games you can play off line. I only ever 'half' finished INfamous and didn't do the final chapter of DeadSpace.
2011-05-22 23:35:00

Author:
Mr_Fusion
Posts: 1799


Saying SONY doesn't care is a little too far. It is true that they address markets one at a time and that other countries (like me in Australia, and you in Brazil) get the sharp end of the stick with games prices as well as technology (the PS3 cost $1000 in Australia at launch), a lot of it comes down to governments, taxes and just the amount of people in the country.
I realize that the government has its fault when talking about game's prices. At the moment, PS3 and Xbox games in Brazil are classified as "gambling" products, so they get insane taxes. But it's the fact that Sony didn't see the fault that is preventing every "marginal account" from resetting their passwords.
2011-05-23 00:57:00

Author:
gdn001
Posts: 5891


Can someone do me a huge favor?
Ok so if you go into account management on your ps3 then service list you'll see your ps plus subscription info. Before today it said:

Started 3/15
Expire 6/15

Ok so that was correct
Let me point out that automatic renewal is switched off

Now I look at it and it says

Started 5/19
Expire 8/31

Now I know they said since I had plus before I'd get sixty days well now they gave be three months.
Technically not 3 actual months because mine wasn't going to expire till right around 6/19. So if they added they just added the two months and restarted me from this point I would only end up with two months. Instead they started me now and with three months, that way I get the two they have for the welcome back program and my one month. I didn't think they'd just add it like that. I thought they'd tell us.

My favor is can somebody look at theirs and tell me if I'm the only one this happened to. If not then they charged me.

Edit: ok so my friend checked his and he also has an extra two months now
If someone who never had ps plus can follow my steps above and check to see if you have it that'd be great.
It was not like that yesterday.
So I think it's true the store is coming back on Tuesday.

Thanks for helping with this.

I think I'm the first one to see this because I can't find a thing about it.

Edit: There are no charges or pending charges on my account. Also I have no card on file anymore.
Now I'm convinced they gave everyone their free plus or at least added it to the people who already have it. They would only do this for one reason, that the store is coming back very soon. They wouldn't give us that and let it go to easy because the store is not up. I hope.

Again if anyone can check they remembers when they signed up that would be great. Thanks again!
2011-05-23 08:56:00

Author:
METALPUNKS
Posts: 306


There is no ps plus in my list2011-05-23 09:05:00

Author:
Mr_Fusion
Posts: 1799


There is no ps plus in my list

Ok Thanks! I figured if you didn't have it from before you'd have to wait to get it from the store like everyone else. So now I need to know if someone who did subscribe before had two months added on. Well my friend had the same thing so it can't be anything else besides the store will be back soon. That's great!

Thanks again for your help.


Edit: to anyone who doesn't know what we are talking about just check my previous post and you'll see. A friend and I got two months of plus added onto us today. It happened right after midnight US EASTERN TIME.


Now I'm totally convinced another friend said he has an extra two months. Also since the network has been on I have not had any automatic downloads. Well it just happened for the first time just now. Cool the store will be back by Tuesday for sure.
2011-05-23 09:10:00

Author:
METALPUNKS
Posts: 306


One thing that P's me off about the "Welcome Back" package offers....

Is that I already own all of those games - I *bought* them with real monies! Both the PSN titles and the PSP titles.

So, all I'm getting out of it is an extra months Plus Subscription... and considering I won't be renewing my Plus Sub (because it's basically a rubbish ?40 lucky Dip) - it's not really an encouragement.

Way to please your "loyal customers", Sony. *golfclap*
2011-05-23 11:36:00

Author:
Macnme
Posts: 1970


http://8.mshcdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/sony-pns-network-cost.jpg2011-05-23 11:57:00

Author:
OmegaSlayer
Posts: 5112


@omega: That would be a true infographic if credit card information had been stolen during the initial hack.

Only a small fraction of credit cards (~12700) were on the SOE servers on the May 1st date. To this date, there has been no verification that any credit card data was even touched from the PSN breach.

And who the hell lets their 8 year old play Call of Duty!?
2011-05-23 13:10:00

Author:
schm0
Posts: 1239


I just thought it was fun. LOL
I guess an estimate was made based on last year breach on that other famoussiteIdon'trememberthenameof.
No doubt it costed them A LOT
I guess only the welcome back plan is around 20 $ for each Principal account that are at least 30 millions.
2011-05-23 13:39:00

Author:
OmegaSlayer
Posts: 5112


completely accurate or not, I lol'd.2011-05-23 14:09:00

Author:
Memodrix
Posts: 879


They would only do this for one reason, that the store is coming back very soon.

Like I said in an earlier post...


...there's a news article (http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/34739/Sony_Tells_Dev_Partners_PlayStation_Store_To_Retur n_May_24.php) from a couple of days ago suggesting the PS Store will be back on May 24th...

...but as it hasn't been officially announced by Sony, but rather (allegedly) from Sony to game devs to the media, it's just a rumor, IMO.

It still has a good chance of being accurate tho'.
2011-05-23 14:10:00

Author:
Aya042
Posts: 2870


I think that since Sony stated a vague date for the Network restore (end of the week) and missed it by almost a week, this time will only announce the Store to come back when it's actually up again and working.2011-05-23 14:30:00

Author:
OmegaSlayer
Posts: 5112


Like I said in an earlier post...



...but as it hasn't been officially announced by Sony, but rather (allegedly) from Sony to game devs to the media, it's just a rumor, IMO.

It still has a good chance of being accurate tho'.



I knew the 24th was a date floating around and I know it's been said. I'm just thinking they if we got our two months added on that means it's most likely gonna be now. They can't just give us our promised time and then waited two or even one week to turn the store on became that would mean they are taking time away from our sixty days. I think I they did they waaayyyy to many people would find that unfair. The clock has started clicking. I just feel what I discovered lastnight is solid evidence that the 24 th 100% real. No doubt in my mind that the store will be back on Tuesday.

I would just like more people to confirm that their subsricption had been extended also.


I think that since Sony stated a vague date for the Network restore (end of the week) and missed it by almost a week, this time will only announce the Store to come back when it's actually up again and working.

I'll be a little upset if my ps plus is extended and I still have to wait some time. Instead of them saying 60 days free they should say 52 days free. Whatever though.


EDIT: Also they didn't announce the return of the network. The only people that they should tell anything to is the developers. Well they should tell us but I doubt they will. This dev's are the ones who said the network would be on soon and now they are the ones saying that the store will be on soon.

Also I think it's cool that they are gonna start off the store and plus exactly where they left off on April 19th. Sony said they will have store updates a couple times a week for a few weeks to catch up. One right after another. So we can expect some great content and not miss out on content we've been waiting for. That's pretty cool!

CONFIRMED - Extra PS Plus months added to accounts

Ok so I called Sony and they confirmed that anyone who had ps plus before the downtime has had the two free months added.

1-Just go to account management from your ps3
2-From account management go into you service list
3-Once in service list click on playstation plus
4-There will be two options one that says Playstation plus
with the plan you have next to it (3months or yearly) and one
that just says playstation plus.
5-Click on the top one that also says your subscription type
6-In there you will see your start date and expire date
you should have an extra two months either at the end or the beginning
of your dates.
The lady said depending on when you signed up you'd either see them give you three full months
or they just added it to the end of your prior expiration date

So it is confirmed we got our extra time for Ps Plus.

Unfortunalty she said if your going to be a new subscriber you'd have to wait to download it
from the store.

I also asked her why would they give us our free months if we cannot even use it except for certain features
She replied with she had no clue when the store would return but they did give a timeline of events
First restore network then add months to plus finally the store would return.
She said there are alot of people talking about it being up tomorrow but that does not mean anything
She even said she couldn't see Sony given a feature that couldn't be fully used unless they had plans to start it.

I am not sure if this is for other regions but people in the US are in fact getting their free months.
2011-05-23 17:45:00

Author:
METALPUNKS
Posts: 306


One thing that P's me off about the "Welcome Back" package offers....

Is that I already own all of those games - I *bought* them with real monies! Both the PSN titles and the PSP titles.

So, all I'm getting out of it is an extra months Plus Subscription... and considering I won't be renewing my Plus Sub (because it's basically a rubbish ?40 lucky Dip) - it's not really an encouragement.

Way to please your "loyal customers", Sony. *golfclap*

are you kiddin' me? You can't please all the people all the time. What do you want them to do? Call all their psn subscribers and see what games they already own and offer them a different one for free? I don't own all those games, so I think it's pretty cool that they're doing this. If I did own all the games, I wouldn't be bitter and how'd you put it..."*golfclap*" and "rolleyes" They didn't have to do anything you know. They could have just said, "Ok, PSN is back online. Sorry for the outage." It kind of bugs me when I hear people complaining about the customer appreciation program on the grounds that they already own the games. Well good for you. You're still getting PS + for 2 months free. I'm not trying to start a whole war or anything, but if you're that unhappy about it, go get a 360 and pay to play your games online.

I can't get any of the games because 1.) I don't have the big HD in my PS3 and 2.)My internet isn't fast enough. It would take me a week to download a game like inFamous.
I can't GET the games, but I WANT the games, yet I'm not over here golf clapping and rolling my eyes.

I think the selection of games is pretty good. I figured it would be some crappy games like hangman, or spot the difference or hidden object find. the fact that they are giving away some "main" games, says a lot, and if you happen to already own them, oh well.
2011-05-23 18:04:00

Author:
biorogue
Posts: 8424


Sony you silly dawgs. Anyway with a PS Plus sub you can get more than just the free games. There is always reduced prices and little gimmicks that are for free like DLC so dont fret.2011-05-23 19:29:00

Author:
craigmond
Posts: 2426


are you kiddin' me? You can't please all the people all the time. What do you want them to do? Call all their psn subscribers and see what games they already own and offer them a different one for free? I don't own all those games, so I think it's pretty cool that they're doing this. If I did own all the games, I wouldn't be bitter and how'd you put it..."*golfclap*" and "rolleyes" They didn't have to do anything you know. They could have just said, "Ok, PSN is back online. Sorry for the outage." It kind of bugs me when I hear people complaining about the customer appreciation program on the grounds that they already own the games. Well good for you. You're still getting PS + for 2 months free. I'm not trying to start a whole war or anything, but if you're that unhappy about it, go get a 360 and pay to play your games online.

I can't get any of the games because 1.) I don't have the big HD in my PS3 and 2.)My internet isn't fast enough. It would take me a week to download a game like inFamous.
I can't GET the games, but I WANT the games, yet I'm not over here golf clapping and rolling my eyes.

I think the selection of games is pretty good. I figured it would be some crappy games like hangman, or spot the difference or hidden object find. the fact that they are giving away some "main" games, says a lot, and if you happen to already own them, oh well.

I totally agree. I already have all the games from the welcome back program and I don't care. I knew from day one I would most likely have anything they offered. I'm just happy people who have not played these games get to experience games like infamous and little big planet. I'm happy with the 60 days of plus which if you've seen my earlier post you will see they already gave it to me. Also people keep Talmud about these five free games what about the fact that Sony will be doing twice as many updates to the store than usual, that means we will be getting a ton of free games from plus. Ya of course you have to keep plus to keep the free games but thats just how it is, nothing you can do about it.

So I'm happy for anyone who gets to play some of those great games. I'm not mad lol. Sony certainly is not going to worry about a small percentage of people they need to take care of the majority. The fact is the majority of people can't afford a ton of games during this time.




A simpler way to think of the welcome back idea if you have all the games... Lots of stuff in the store will essentially be on sale (because of the free plus). So go nuts buy more DLC and full games for cheap.

So you get what I was trying to say. I think we know that people who are just signing up for ps plus maybe surprised by games you can get discounted and free through plus.
2011-05-23 20:52:00

Author:
METALPUNKS
Posts: 306


A simpler way to think of the welcome back idea if you have all the games... Lots of stuff in the store will essentially be on sale (because of the free plus). So go nuts buy more DLC and full games for cheap.2011-05-23 21:52:00

Author:
Mr_Fusion
Posts: 1799


I can totally understand why some people think the games being offered are lame, and yet I completely agree that Sony didn't "have" to give us anything at all.

Personally, I think most of the games are lame (with the exception of LBP and INfamous) and that if they were going to give us anything it should have been something like a voucher that gives us any game title 6 months or older for half price or something (although free would be nice too). I know a lot of you don't think that'd be fair to Sony somehow, but really... how much do you think their profit is on a game that they charge us $60 and up for? Lot's, I can tell you that for sure. It's Sony, I think they can afford to make a little less money for one year and this kind of money is chump change for them. Heck, even if they weren't making much profit per game, think about how amazing they would look in everyone's eyes for doing something that amazing for their loyal fanbase. I really don't care much for any fanboys or their ridiculous arguements, but I can guarantee Xbox'ers would be pretty jealous as well.

Also, consider the hardcore gamers here folks. The ones who spend TONS of cash and time on Sony, many of whom own all or most of these games. I can see why they feel they aren't really getting as good of a deal as those who don't own these titles already. Fact is, this really isn't a great deal for many users... myself included. I'm not really a fan of any of the titles, and although it's a nice gesture on their part... it's just not very enticing for me. As for the PS+ arguement and the fact that you can get stuff at a reduced cost.. that's pretty lame too. First of all, who says it will actually be any DLC I might want at all? Who says that I or other people can even afford to buy DLC at a reduced cost right now? So you see, even though it's a good deal for YOU... it's not a good deal for everyone. Just sayin'.

I'm not saying anyone is right or wrong, these are all just people's opinions and I think we all need to remember and respect that.

Cheers!
2011-05-24 03:45:00

Author:
Rustbukkit
Posts: 1737


I'll be a little upset if my ps plus is extended and I still have to wait some time. Instead of them saying 60 days free they should say 52 days free. Whatever though.

Look at it this way: right now we're still in the end days of the April releases. Once the Store opens, we'll pass straight into the June releases, so we will only have missed the May releases. Since we're getting two months added to our subscription, we still win one month, even if the Store isn't back until the 31st.


I can't get any of the games because 1.) I don't have the big HD in my PS3 and 2.)My internet isn't fast enough. It would take me a week to download a game like inFamous.

I wouldn't be so sure about point 1. I have a 40GB PS3 and I've been able to download lots of huge games (just not at the same time). You just have to clear some space. Some games install lots of data; if you won't be playing it for a while, delete the game data (don't delete the game save data though, they usually don't take up much space anyway). Back up stuff to USB and throw it away. If you have lots of downloaded stuff that is still available to download, you can delete and redownload later.

Yeah, PSN+ on 40 gigs is a lot of work.
2011-05-24 12:02:00

Author:
Rogar
Posts: 2284


I wouldn't be so sure about point 1. I have a 40GB PS3 and I've been able to download lots of huge games (just not at the same time). You just have to clear some space. Some games install lots of data; if you won't be playing it for a while, delete the game data (don't delete the game save data though, they usually don't take up much space anyway). Back up stuff to USB and throw it away. If you have lots of downloaded stuff that is still available to download, you can delete and redownload later.

Yeah, PSN+ on 40 gigs is a lot of work.
I thought about doing this, but for some strange reason, it's difficult for me to delete game data. I don't know why. Even a game like GTA IV that I haven't played in probably two years. I started to deleted the game data the other day and went, "no, I might want to play it tomorrow or something." I know, it's stupid. You can just reinstall the game, but still difficult for me. I probably need to lay on someone's couch. I had rented a game one time and kept the data on my PS3 for a couple of years, just in the off chance that I might buy the game.
What about games I download, say I download a psn game and need to clear up space, is it possible to put the game data on a usb then bring it back for future plays?

Back on the appreciation program. I think maybe more people would have been pleased if they sent us through email, vouchers for maybe 1 free game or 2 free greatest hits games, then customers would have a broader choice of titles, and the PS + free month.
2011-05-24 13:27:00

Author:
biorogue
Posts: 8424


I don't think you can backup game data (other than a complete PS3 backup), but there's no point, really. It's just installation data that is extracted from the disk for speedy access (or something). There's also no need to backup downloaded PSN games. They will appear in your download list in the Store, so you can always download and reinstall them to the same PS3 again later.

In any case, even if you don't want to download anything now, at least select the games you want and "buy" them without downloading. Then you can download and install them later when you have some more space and bandwith.

And get a shrink.
2011-05-24 14:43:00

Author:
Rogar
Posts: 2284


are you kiddin' me? You can't please all the people all the time. What do you want them to do? Call all their psn subscribers and see what games they already own and offer them a different one for free? I don't own all those games, so I think it's pretty cool that they're doing this. If I did own all the games, I wouldn't be bitter and how'd you put it..."*golfclap*" and "rolleyes" They didn't have to do anything you know. They could have just said, "Ok, PSN is back online. Sorry for the outage." It kind of bugs me when I hear people complaining about the customer appreciation program on the grounds that they already own the games. Well good for you. You're still getting PS + for 2 months free. I'm not trying to start a whole war or anything, but if you're that unhappy about it, go get a 360 and pay to play your games online.

I can't get any of the games because 1.) I don't have the big HD in my PS3 and 2.)My internet isn't fast enough. It would take me a week to download a game like inFamous.
I can't GET the games, but I WANT the games, yet I'm not over here golf clapping and rolling my eyes.

I think the selection of games is pretty good. I figured it would be some crappy games like hangman, or spot the difference or hidden object find. the fact that they are giving away some "main" games, says a lot, and if you happen to already own them, oh well.

I know... Imagine complaining that all of your data had been stolen... and then not being able to access any online functionality in any games bought for the platform (some of which are online only);

How *dare* these people complain!

Only, customers like myself (the most valued kind of customer - one that actually BUYS alot of software - so much that they already own the entire "Welcome Back" selection) are completely left out of any "gratuity".

And slight correction - existing Plus subscribers are only getting 1 month free - not 2 months. the extra month is one that has been paid for but was unavailable due to Sony's failure to protect their customers.

So 1 months free subscription to a lucky dip that you can't access if you stop subscribing?
When other "less valued" customers can take advantage of all the "free" software they are now giving away.
And what's the betting that the "free months" giveaway on Plus is full of total rubbish (not that the usual selection was any good).

Makes me glad that I *do* own an Xbox - at least you know what you are getting for your ?40 a year - instead of paying ?40 a year for a lucky dip.

If you can;t understand that legitimate grievance then your clearly just a fanboy. Sony made a major ****-up - and while their "Welcome Back" package might be welcome for 'most' - it isn't welcome for me - a "Valued Loyal Customer"... it makes me question my "loyalties". Why should I give my credit card details back to a company that clearly can't protect them, and couldn't care less about their high-end customers?
2011-05-24 14:59:00

Author:
Macnme
Posts: 1970


...How *dare* these people complain!

Only, customers like myself (the most valued kind of customer - one that actually BUYS alot of software - so much that they already own the entire "Welcome Back" selection) are completely left out of any "gratuity"...

...Why should I give my credit card details back to a company that clearly can't protect them, and couldn't care less about their high-end customers?

Sounds like some great questions for Sony customer support. Have you tried calling them?

You also forgot to mention that existing subscribers will receive a free month's subscription to the Qrocity music service, yet to be announced HD movie rentals, and virtual items in Home. SOE subscribers are also receiving their own welcome back packages (http://www.soe.com/securityupdate/welcomeback/). There's also the free year of credit protectionthat they're giving all of us. In addition, Sony has also been working with individual developers to offer in-game perks for online blockbusters such as Mortal Kombat and Call of Duty: BlackOps. And I'm sure there will be more announcements similar to this going forward. In short, the games are just a portion of a larger package.

Do you get this upset when you receive a gift from someone in real life but it's something that you already own?

I don't know about you, but I put on a smile and say "Thank you." Sometimes it's the thought that counts, hm? And don't go tearing apart my analogy. My point is that maybe, just maybe, you shouldn't be so bent out of shape.

Don't get me wrong, your situation is not ideal. But complaining here isn't going to get you anywhere.

Call Sony customer support. See what they say.
2011-05-24 16:28:00

Author:
schm0
Posts: 1239


Look at it this way: right now we're still in the end days of the April releases. Once the Store opens, we'll pass straight into the June releases, so we will only have missed the May releases. Since we're getting two months added to our subscription, we still win one month, even if the Store isn't back until the 31st.

We are not passing straight through to June release. They said they are gonna pick up exactly where they left off and just update the store very quickly with all the stuff we missed. When I called Sony I talked with the lady about that. She said they have a timeline set for the store and ps plus months in advance and they have to stick with it, so since we missed all that time they are going to update plus and the store everyday or two to catch up. Not only that try gonna keel the same release schedule dated for the new stuff so for the first and second Tuesday's we will get two updates along with more updates in between the tuesdays. Basically we are getting slammed with content for the first week or two, which makes up for the fact that my plus account recieved the two months on the 19th of May. So be ready for a huge wave of content. I can't wait!



I don't know about you, but I put on a smile and say "Thank you." Sometimes it's the thought that counts, hm? And don't go tearing apart my analogy. My point is that maybe, just maybe, you shouldn't be so bent out of shape


That's what I think, I agree 110%. Hey at least they are doing something. What people think they are making money off of this. Sony is giving us free stuff, I don't care if it's a T-shirt or anything at all. Yes I think they should give us back our time lost for ps plus and other features that didn't work for those 3 1/2 weeks but that's a given. I already got my two months of plus added on the other day. Actually I'm pretty positive if you check under account management you'll see it added for you also.

I don't think Sony even has to have a 'Welcome Back Anything'. Stuff happens and we move on. Don't get me wrong I was angry at Sony for how the left us int he dark but now I can play games online and chat with friends, that's what counts, not free free free. Did you ever hear the saying nothing is free, well Sony is doing something that most companies would never think of doing. So they do care and have put thought and time into making us feel comfortable again.

As for the free games I knew from day one that I wouldn't want any of them. Why? Because any game that's out I have. Why? Because I usually buy it because I want to play it. If I don't own it then its because I have no interest in it. It's great Sony is giving those free games for people that never played it that always wanted to. But those few people need to stop complaining because they already own it. People that can't afford it are finally google to experience a game like LBP and Infamous, that's awesome for them.

All I want back is what I lost and I got it. I'm happy and as far as not trusting Sony I understand why some would not trust them but I think of it like this. A company that huge had a major breach and I don't think they will ever let it happen again. In fact I feel more secure than ever. For goodness sake it took almost a month to build it, it better be an outstanding security system. Whether store returns I will give my credit card information without a doubt. Why? Because they are setting us up with an Identity Theft Protection program that kicks ***. Oh and because I do NOT think anyone is attacking Sony anytime soon. The have an army of people hoping someone even come close to the network so they can catch them and prosecute. Sony is like our country(USA) after the attacks on September 11th, they are in high alert and looking for any activity.
2011-05-24 16:58:00

Author:
METALPUNKS
Posts: 306


** If my post didn't make you smile, please re-read it in the voice of Groundskeeper Willie.
LOL, that helped. I can see your point to a certain extent. But, you have to look at it from Sony's point of view. They're trying to come up with an "appeasement" program that covers their "average" gamer. A program that is fairly broad that will cover the most people. Let me say that again. A program that covers the MOST people. Again, they cannot cotton to every single customer.
All I'm hearing from you is me, me, me, I, I, I. What do you think you're entitled to? What do you think Sony owes you? Maybe Drake's Uncharted 3? The new Bioshock when it comes out? Maybe they should develop a game especially for you, since.. my God, you are THE only customer they have.

And no, I'm not a "Fanboy" I consider myself a "core" gamer who has just shy of 250 titles across 8 yes Eight platforms. PS 1,2,3 Xbox 360, WII, PSP, and Nintendo DS oh and I'm not including my PC collection that has been growing since 1989 or my old nes, Snes and Sega CD. Sheesh, just on my Snes I have like 85 titles. The majority of my platform games are Playstation, so maybe I am a "fanboy." I'm definitely a loyal customer who purchases a lot of software. Granted the last few years I've had to slow down due to having a Wife and 3 kids.

That's why I think it would have been better to email vouchers to people. That way customers, both "less valued" and "Valued Loyal Customers" could choose the game right for them, and maybe we wouldn't have to be subjected to all the whining.
I think I inadvertently took possession of your goat.
2011-05-24 18:25:00

Author:
biorogue
Posts: 8424


I just want everything back to normal. All this drama kinda defeats the purpose of what videogames are meant to be.2011-05-24 20:17:00

Author:
EinRobot
Posts: 739


I just want everything back to normal. All this drama kinda defeats the purpose of what videogames are meant to be.

I thought screaming and yelling was EXACTLY what online games were about?
2011-05-24 21:44:00

Author:
Mr_Fusion
Posts: 1799


no. having fun with others across the world is what online play is about

and screaming and yelling
2011-05-24 21:52:00

Author:
nerzdadestroyer
Posts: 1527


I thought screaming and yelling was EXACTLY what online games were about?
It's what Call of Duty is about. Everyone knows that Call of Duty is a game made to see who's the biggest ***hole. But we're offtopic again.
2011-05-24 21:57:00

Author:
gdn001
Posts: 5891


I found this interesting.

In fact, since Sony first disclosed the attack on its PlayStation Network in late April, to now, hackers have broken into Sony's networks at least six more times.* One of the attacks was on Sony BMG's site in Greece and resulted in about 8,000 usernames, passwords, phone numbers, and other data being exposed. Another attack on Sony Ericsson's Canadian website has resulted in about 2,000 customer records being exposed.

http://m.blogs.computerworld.com/18347/say_something_sony



STORE BACK TONIGHT?

I think the store coming back tonight. One reason is a bunch of people could not log in today, I guess it was a routine check. Another reason is I got two months added to my ps plus account. I cannot wait for the store. If the store starts to work tonight then this week will be packed with so many games and demos, it's great they updating a few times this week so they can catch up on all the previous updates that couldn't happen during down time. I'm dreaming though, I just miss downloading demos and PSN games. Those 10 dollar games on PSN are usually my favorite games. We shall see. If it doesn't happen it doesn't happen. I'm that Camping guy predicting the store arrives tonight. If I'm wrong I'll go into hiding.
2011-05-25 01:01:00

Author:
METALPUNKS
Posts: 306


And I'm hoping that with the store coming back online I'll be able to reset my password, along with millions of other accounts.2011-05-25 01:08:00

Author:
gdn001
Posts: 5891


I wish PS Store is online so I can buy Fancy Pants Adventures 3.

-tP
2011-05-25 02:55:00

Author:
ThePineapplizer
Posts: 769


And I'm hoping that with the store coming back online I'll be able to reset my password, along with millions of other accounts.

Hang in there Brazil! Also, out of interest; When you make an account do you have to make a brazilan one or are you able to make others? At launch I made a US and JPN one because the AUS content was so little... Actually now I think of it their data was probably stolen! Oh well, if you live at 123 Fake Street I'm sorry.
2011-05-25 07:48:00

Author:
Mr_Fusion
Posts: 1799


Identity Theft Protection Email from Sony

Identity Theft Protection Offer for PlayStation?Network and Qriocity™ Customers

Sony Computer Entertainment and Sony Network Entertainment have made arrangements with Debix to offer AllClear ID PLUS to eligible PlayStation?Network and Qriocity account holders in the United States who are concerned about identity theft.

AllClear ID PLUS is a premium identity protection service that uses advanced technology to deliver alerts to help protect you from identity theft. The service also provides identity theft insurance coverage and hands-on help from expert fraud investigators.

Sony has arranged, at no charge to eligible PlayStation?Network and Qriocity account holders, for twelve months of this service to be provided by Debix to those who choose to enroll. In order to be eligible, account holders must be residents of the United States with active accounts as of April 20, 2011.

If interested, please submit your email address by June 28, 2011, at 11:59:59 PM CST at: us.playstation.com/news/consumeralerts/identity-theft-protection.

Please note, you must enter the same email address used to register your PlayStation?Network or Qriocity account. Once your email address is validated, you will be sent your AllClear ID PLUS activation code


Ok so far I have received my two months extra ps plus and now I got this. I have a question that nobody will probably know the answer to but I'll throw it out there anyway. So recently I changed my email address for my account and now my old one which is the one I originally had for psn is no longer active. So is this gonna work with the new one? I you have an idea please speak thank you.

Edit: I went to the link and signed up and answer to my yes it works with the new email address. On the actual sign page after you submit the email address a post pops up and says 'allow 72hrs to receive a code, as long as the email address entered matches the exsisting account for the playstation network you will receive an ALLClear Activation Code'.
2011-05-25 08:24:00

Author:
METALPUNKS
Posts: 306


Hang in there Brazil! Also, out of interest; When you make an account do you have to make a brazilan one or are you able to make others? At launch I made a US and JPN one because the AUS content was so little... Actually now I think of it their data was probably stolen! Oh well, if you live at 123 Fake Street I'm sorry.
You can make one from any country. But when I made my account our PS3 wasn't permanently connected to the internet, so we used to move the TV and the PS3 from the room to the kitchen because the wi-fi didn't use to reach the living room. So we didn't have much time to think that through. Then we got a better internet and a permanent cable connection, so I made an american account for my brother.
2011-05-25 17:34:00

Author:
gdn001
Posts: 5891


So...store back up yet? xD2011-05-26 17:58:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707


So...store back up yet? xD
The store is not up yet...sad to say

I'm waiting for the store to be fixed
2011-05-26 18:34:00

Author:
Unknown User


they said by "the end of may". My guess is Tuesday May 31... possibly at 11:59 PM May 31st.2011-05-26 19:00:00

Author:
EinRobot
Posts: 739


they said by "the end of may". My guess is Tuesday May 31... possibly at 11:59 PM May 31st.

I say Tuesday May 31st at 8:32 pm eastern time zone.
2011-05-26 19:05:00

Author:
METALPUNKS
Posts: 306


I say May 32nd.2011-05-26 19:39:00

Author:
gdn001
Posts: 5891


I say May 32nd.


................. what?
2011-05-26 20:32:00

Author:
nerzdadestroyer
Posts: 1527


leave it to Sony to extend the month of May. I have been hearing rumors about some sort of Japanese month stretcher.2011-05-26 22:43:00

Author:
EinRobot
Posts: 739


Just signed into my ALLClear ID Debix account. It's actually a very good program. Personally I don't think I will continue after the 12 months expire, only because after the breach with Sony I signed up for basically the same program through my bank.

The only thing that worries me is can this company handle all these extra people from Sony.

Just a little something I noticed:

What I liked about signing up was they didn't ask for much personal information at all. Just the basics, no social security or credit numbers what so ever. All in all seems to be a great program and is worth at least a 12 month free trial. THANKS SONY
2011-05-27 05:00:00

Author:
METALPUNKS
Posts: 306


LOL, that helped. I can see your point to a certain extent. But, you have to look at it from Sony's point of view. They're trying to come up with an "appeasement" program that covers their "average" gamer. A program that is fairly broad that will cover the most people. Let me say that again. A program that covers the MOST people. Again, they cannot cotton to every single customer.
All I'm hearing from you is me, me, me, I, I, I. What do you think you're entitled to? What do you think Sony owes you? Maybe Drake's Uncharted 3? The new Bioshock when it comes out? Maybe they should develop a game especially for you, since.. my God, you are THE only customer they have.

And no, I'm not a "Fanboy" I consider myself a "core" gamer who has just shy of 250 titles across 8 yes Eight platforms. PS 1,2,3 Xbox 360, WII, PSP, and Nintendo DS oh and I'm not including my PC collection that has been growing since 1989 or my old nes, Snes and Sega CD. Sheesh, just on my Snes I have like 85 titles. The majority of my platform games are Playstation, so maybe I am a "fanboy." I'm definitely a loyal customer who purchases a lot of software. Granted the last few years I've had to slow down due to having a Wife and 3 kids.

That's why I think it would have been better to email vouchers to people. That way customers, both "less valued" and "Valued Loyal Customers" could choose the game right for them, and maybe we wouldn't have to be subjected to all the whining.
I think I inadvertently took possession of your goat.

Oi! Can I have my goat back please

Thinking about this more - it's actually over 5 weeks that the store has been down - meaning that a customer like myself - who already owns the entire welcome back package - and subscribes to Plus - is actually only getting 3 weeks "free" now.

Where as a customer who signed up just before PSN went down and has never bought anything from Sony before gets a whole month, plus 2 psp games, plus 2 PS3 games?

I'm not imagining it am I? That isn't what I would call "fair"
2011-05-27 11:48:00

Author:
Macnme
Posts: 1970


Oi! Can I have my goat back please

Thinking about this more - it's actually over 5 weeks that the store has been down - meaning that a customer like myself - who already owns the entire welcome back package - and subscribes to Plus - is actually only getting 3 weeks "free" now.

Where as a customer who signed up just before PSN went down and has never bought anything from Sony before gets a whole month, plus 2 psp games, plus 2 PS3 games?

I'm not imagining it am I? That isn't what I would call "fair"

your goat has been returned.

On this point...I totally agree with you. This store being down business is ridiculous. I'm tired of selecting "store" and it saying it's unavailable. Guess they are going to hold out til the last of May. But I think, and correct me if I'm wrong, that the "free" time starts when the store comes back up.
2011-05-27 13:02:00

Author:
biorogue
Posts: 8424


bah. screw the store! i just want infamous 2 to come out already! I'm sick to death of this whole mess and the arguments it's caused.....and I really want to electrocute things.......2011-05-27 13:24:00

Author:
Memodrix
Posts: 879


Thinking about this more - it's actually over 5 weeks that the store has been down - meaning that a customer like myself - who already owns the entire welcome back package - and subscribes to Plus - is actually only getting 3 weeks "free" now.

Uhm, no.

I don't know if it's impossible to play any PSN+ games without logging into PSN (I just remember needing to sign in for the 1-hour trials), but even if you only play online PSN+ games, PSN was only out for a month. The PSN Store doesn't figure into this, you "have" PSN+ right now.

The store only factors in the amount of games we get for PSN+. If METALPUNKS is correct they'll be pushing out the scheduled May and June content in the coming weeks, which would mean we don't actually lose anything here. But even if he's wrong and May is reused for some later month, we're still getting 2 months of content extra, one to replace May, and one bonus.
2011-05-27 13:29:00

Author:
Rogar
Posts: 2284


If METALPUNKS is correct they'll be pushing out the scheduled May and June content in the coming weeks, which would mean we don't actually lose anything here. But even if he's wrong and May is reused for some later month, we're still getting 2 months of content extra, one to replace May, and one bonus.

I had to search a bit but I knew I remembered seeing it somewhere, I found it in a Q and A blog posted May 16th directly from the official Playstation Website.

Here is part of the Q and A FAQ: This where they say we will be getting multiple updates and we won't miss out on anything.

Q: The PlayStation Store hasn?t updated since April 19th. When can I download digital games that were planned to be released since then?

A: To date, three Tuesday publishes were missed, which included items like Under Siege and the MotorStorm Apocalypse demo. Rest assured that you won?t miss any of this great content. To catch up on the large amount of material, we?ll be publishing to the PlayStation Store multiple times per week once commerce functionality is restored. We will update the PlayStation.Blog with information on timing of the Store restoration, as well as the full list of new content as each publish occurs.


Q: How will PlayStation Plus members be affected by the PSN downtime? A number of games/items were slated to go live or come down on April 26th.

A: We will be picking back up with the PlayStation Plus content calendar where we left off to ensure that you won?t miss out on anything.


Also below I will add the link for the entire Blog Post:

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/05/16/psn-faq-restoration-questions-answered/
2011-05-27 22:39:00

Author:
METALPUNKS
Posts: 306


I'm not sure whether you guys'll find this info interesting or not, but Japanese members of PSN are back online now.2011-05-28 07:11:00

Author:
FlipMeister
Posts: 631


Welcome back to Japan! If the government is happy with the security the store shouldn't be far off!2011-05-28 09:34:00

Author:
Mr_Fusion
Posts: 1799


Store will be back the 31'st If I'm not mistaken.2011-05-28 10:46:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707


lbp.me is back on2011-05-28 12:20:00

Author:
nerzdadestroyer
Posts: 1527


PSN Maintenance Scheduled Tues 31st May 19.00 GMT until Wednesday 1st June 01.00 GMT

on 27-05-2011 10:48 AM

PSN Network Maintenance has been scheduled to take places from Tuesday 31st May at 19.00 GMT until Wednesday 1st June 01.00 GMT.

During the maintenance window, the following services will be unavailable:

* PC Registration
* Console Storefront
* PS3 Account Management
* PS3 Network Account Registration
* PSP Network Account Registration
* Qriocity Account Management

If you attempt to log in during this period you will receive the site maintenance notification page.

If you are already signed in during this period you should be able to stay connected and you will not lose your gaming session (however the above services will still be unavailable).



http://community.eu.playstation.com/t5/Technical-Help/PSN-Maintenance-Scheduled-Tues-31st-May-19-00-GMT-until/m-p/13080401?WT.mc_id=TSO_EN_103
2011-05-28 15:05:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


lbp.me is back on

it's back off. Don't know what the deal is.
2011-05-28 20:47:00

Author:
biorogue
Posts: 8424


So Japan gets a welcome back package with a few changes.


PS3 owners can choose from the following five games:

* The Last Guy
* LocoRoco Cocoreccho!
* echochrome
* WipEout HD
* Hustler King

And for PSP, the choices include:

* Yuhshanokuseninamaikida or2 PSP? the Best (What Did I Do to Deserve This, My Lord!? 2)
* Everybody's Stress Buster (Hot Shots Shorties)
* PATAPON2 PSP? the Best
* LittleBigPlanet Portable
* LocoRoco -Midnight Carnival-

Users also get 30 days free PlayStation Plus access, Home stuff, free "select" movie rentals, and a month of "Platinya" membership for the weekly news program/cat minigame collection Weekly Toro Station.

http://www.joystiq.com/2011/05/27/psn-service-coming-back-in-asia-tomorrow-welcome-back-package-d/

I've dusted off the old Japanese account and I'll be getting The Last Guy & echochrome if i can.
2011-05-28 21:13:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


This is interesting

According to gamepro's article Numbergasm 5/26/11: The Real Cost of the PSN Hack (http://www.gamepro.com/article/news/219699/numbergasm-5-26-11-the-real-cost-of-the-psn-hack/) the true cost of security, loss of sales etc. Is around $3,180,000,000.


PlayStation Network outage error number: 80710A06

Amount Sony expects in net loss for the financial year ended on March 31: $3.18 billion
Amount of that net loss from PlayStation Network hack: $171 million
From March tsunami and earthquake in Japan: $269 million

The Ponemon Institute's estimated cost of a malicious data breach per account: $318
Estimated cost of PSN hack at $318 per account: over $24 billion
BP?s original escrow fund to cover the Deepwater Horizon oil spill: $20 billion

Compromised PSN accounts: up to 77 million
Population of the United Kingdom as of the 2009 census: 61.8 million

Compromised credit card numbers from the PSN database: up to 10 million
Population of Scotland and Ireland combined as of the 2009 census: 9.5 million


Compromised SOE accounts: 24.6 million
Compromised credit cards from the SOE database: 12,700
Number of SOE layoffs on March 31, 2011: 205
Studio closures: 3
Game cancellations: 1, The Agency

Free games gifted to PSN account owners as part of Sony?s "Welcome Back" program: 2
Free days of PlayStation Plus: 30 for non-subscribers, 60 for subscribers
Free virtual items promised to PlayStation Home users: 100
Free subscription time for SOE subscribers: 45 days

Amount Sony's security firm partner Debix, Inc. will insure per verified user identity theft: $1,000,000

Amount Capcom senior vice president Christian Svensson claims outage has cost his company in planned revenue: "hundreds of thousands, if not millions of dollars"

Percentage of PS3 users considering selling their system and switching to an Xbox 360, according to a CouponCodes4U poll: 21%
Percentage of Xbox 360 to total sales of Brink, an online-centric multiplayer shooter: 69%
State attorney generals investigating the PlayStation Network outage: 22
Arrests made in PlayStation Network outage: 0



Even if this is an accurate cost or not, it still must be quite high
2011-05-29 00:03:00

Author:
PerfectlyDarkTails
Posts: 269


This is interesting

According to gamepro's article Numbergasm 5/26/11: The Real Cost of the PSN Hack (http://www.gamepro.com/article/news/219699/numbergasm-5-26-11-the-real-cost-of-the-psn-hack/) the true cost of security, loss of sales etc. Is around $3,180,000,000.



Even if this is an accurate cost or not, it still must be quite high

$3.1 billion loss is for the year ending March 31st 2011 (before the hack) PSN hack is estimated to cost them $170 million.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-13557431
2011-05-29 00:31:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


I'm not sure whether you guys'll find this info interesting or not, but Japanese members of PSN are back online now.

Wow...is the PSN store running in Japan too?
2011-05-29 08:06:00

Author:
Unknown User


Wow...is the PSN store running in Japan too?

No .
2011-05-29 08:27:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


Is the playstation network back down again? My ps3 has been playing up all day with crashes, me and abyssalassassin have been working on a level. A few times we have been kicked from making the level for no reason. The latest one is when we go to test the level abyssalassassin is automatically kicked. Theh last time this happened, I wasn’t able to connect to the LBP 2 server. So I turned my ps3 off to refresh it, as sometimes I feel this helps to reconnect the internet. Now it will not reconnect to the playstation network. A quick google search for playstation network and clicking ‘latest’ suggests that this isn’t just happening to me, as people have been asking is it down again through twitter and other forums.

A statement from an online gaming website:

http://thegamingliberty.com/index.php/2011/05/29/the-playstation-network-is-down-again/
2011-05-29 15:41:00

Author:
dbibby88
Posts: 378


This is interesting

According to gamepro's article Numbergasm 5/26/11: The Real Cost of the PSN Hack (http://www.gamepro.com/article/news/219699/numbergasm-5-26-11-the-real-cost-of-the-psn-hack/) the true cost of security, loss of sales etc. Is around $3,180,000,000.



Even if this is an accurate cost or not, it still must be quite high

This is also the second item I've seen as of late in which the author assumes that credit card numbers were stolen from the PSN hack, which has not been confirmed...
2011-05-29 15:56:00

Author:
schm0
Posts: 1239


Is the playstation network back down again? My ps3 has been playing up all day with crashes, me and abyssalassassin have been working on a level. A few times we have been kicked from making the level for no reason. The latest one is when we go to test the level abyssalassassin is automatically kicked. Theh last time this happened, I wasn’t able to connect to the LBP 2 server. So I turned my ps3 off to refresh it, as sometimes I feel this helps to reconnect the internet. Now it will not reconnect to the playstation network. A quick google search for playstation network and clicking ‘latest’ suggests that this isn’t just happening to me, as people have been asking is it down again through twitter and other forums.

A statement from an online gaming website:


http://thegamingliberty.com/index.php/2011/05/29/the-playstation-network-is-down-again/

The company has confirmed via its official PlayStation Blog that the maintenance takes place at 19:00 GMT on May 31st, it will end at 01:00 GMT on June 1st. You won?t be able to log on during that period so make sure if you are planning on playing online that you are logged in before the start time.

Now I know that isn't today but I do know they have been throwing up all sorts of maintenance dates on the blog. I figure we all may experience some sort of network problem in the next few days. I'm sure it'll all be over soon. The more we see this happen the better chance we will have the store back soon.
2011-05-29 17:11:00

Author:
METALPUNKS
Posts: 306


The Ponemon Institute's estimated cost of a malicious data breach per account: $318
Estimated cost of PSN hack at $318 per account: over $24 billion

Does anyone actually understand what this means? Who exactly is paying this cost?
2011-05-29 20:12:00

Author:
rtm223
Posts: 6497


Ahhh thanks for the heads up Metalpunks, I haven't really been reading anything from the playstation blogs, I did check the status of the playstation network when mine went off and it said online. It came back on about half an hour later, when everyone who was online was offline, haa so it was pretty pointless.2011-05-29 20:30:00

Author:
dbibby88
Posts: 378


GREAT SCOTT!

Marty if my calculations are correct the playstation store should be up and running by 6pm tonight, US eastern time of course. If they set the release for any other date and time beside Tuesday May 31st 2011 at 1800 hours then the consequences would be CATASTROPHIC! Any other date and Sony would be altering the SPACE TIME CONTINUUM!

We need precisely 1.21 GIGAWATTS for the time circuits to activate the FLUX CAPACITOR! The only way to achieve that is with something powerful! Bring your XBOX...No Wait! We need more power bring the PS3!

We have to be prepared just in case Sony does not meet the required date, get ready Marty where we are going we need roads, we may have to go BACK TO THE FUTURE........



This is some HEAVY stuff doc...




Meet me at the CLOCK TOWER! We need to get up to 88 MPH! If Sony fails to succeed then we must stop the devastation before it's too late. 1.21 GIGAWATTS! ONE POINT TWENTY ONE GIGAWATTS!






Ok on a serious note lol. I really hope to see the store up today. I really want to start downloading some demos and purchasing some dlc. My extra months that I've already received from the welcome back program are slowly going to waste.

Edit: I was just sitting back and think WOW! Look at all the problems the hacker(s) caused. All the money and time lost, we as customers may be done with this ordeal but just to think of these game developers, all these sheduled dates screwed up and money lost. Sony is a whole other story. The money try lost can feed a 3rd world country for years. Anybody who is stupid enough to hack anything right now deserves full prosecution. They are going to make a huge example out of the next person that hacks any type of establishment. I wonder what these hackers are thinking right now. They can't possibly be proud of this. They are some mean *** people if they did it thinking all this was going to happen. Can you imagine if it is just one kid. He must be scared out of his mind, good he or she deserves to be. What are the consequences of hacking these days. Is there any type of laws set up for hackers? I know about 8 years ago my sisters friend hacked into some state office in FL and totally messed with the system. I remember he was told told he can never touch a computer or cellphone again. He was only allowed to own a rotary phone. That was a mistake for letting him even use that lol. He took the thing apart a learned everything he could and then went to every pay phone and some how made it totally free to make calls. I'll never forget it because it was all over local news that he did it. He went and told people and someone told on him an they got te camera tape from target and caught him red handed. I remember they shut down all the phones and for whatever reason there was one phone at wal greens that worked. I used it all the time to call back home, cell phone we a luxury back then. He ended up serving like 7 years in prison. He just got out a little over a year ago. If all that happened to him I'm sure those hackers will have have huge consequences are their hands.
2011-05-31 06:53:00

Author:
METALPUNKS
Posts: 306


May 31st is now "this week"


SONY AND SONY COMPUTER ENTERTAINMENT ANNOUNCE FULL RESTORATION OF PLAYSTATION?NETWORK SERVICES

Tokyo, May 31, 2011 ? Sony Corporation and Sony Computer Entertainment (SCE) announced today that Sony Network Entertainment International (SNEI, the company) will fully restore all PlayStation?Network services in the Americas, Europe/PAL territories and Asia, excluding Japan, Hong Kong, and South Korea by the end of this week. The company will also resume Music Unlimited powered by Qriocity? for PlayStation?3 (PS3?), PSP? (PlayStation?Portable), VAIO and other PCs. Details for Japan, Hong Kong, and South Korea as well as the remaining services on Qriocity will be announced as they become available.

The company implemented considerable security enhancements to the network infrastructure, as well as conducted testing of the payment process and commerce functions. The first phase of PlayStation Network and Qriocity restoration began on May 15 in the Americas and Europe/PAL territories, followed by Japan and Asian countries and regions on May 28, when the company brought partial services back online. With this partial restoration users were able to access to some of the services such as online game play, account management, friend lists and chat functionality were restored. The full restoration of PlayStation Network as well as part of services to become available on Qriocity will include:

? Full functionality on PlayStation?Store
? In-game commerce
? Ability to redeem vouchers and codes
? Full functionality on Music Unlimited powered by Qriocity for PS3, PSP, VAIO and
other PCs
? Full functionality on Media Go

Customers will be able to purchase and download games and video content from the PlayStation?Store on PS3 or PSP. In addition, consumers will have full access to Music Unlimited powered by Qriocity through PS3, PSP, VAIO and other PC?s. Service restoration of Video on Demand powered by Qriocity? and Music Unlimited powered by Qriocity for a variety of network-enabled Sony devices will be announced later.

?We have been conducting additional testing and further security verification of our commerce functions in order to bring the PlayStation Network completely back online so that our fans can again enjoy the first class entertainment experience they have come to love,? said Kazuo Hirai, Executive Deputy President, Sony Corporation. ?We appreciate the patience and support shown during this time.?

The company will be offering customers a ?Welcome Back? package of services and premium content to all registered PlayStation Network* and Qriocity account services. The details of this program will continue to be detailed regionally.

* Only available for those countries with access to PlayStation?Store.

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/05/30/full-psn-services-including-playstation-store-return-this-week/
2011-05-31 07:57:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


If I missed as many projected dates as Sony does I would be fired.2011-05-31 14:00:00

Author:
EinRobot
Posts: 739


May 31st is now "this week"

Oooh. Finally something a little more concrete than the random wibblings they've been blogging for the last couple of weeks.

Updated OP, interpreting "end of this week" as Sunday, June 5th.



If I missed as many projected dates as Sony does I would be fired.

True, but Sony kinda have a monopoly on PS3 network services, so they can pretty much do whatever they like. Question is, how many customers will they lose as a result? Not many from these forums, I guess, since they also have a monopoly on LBP.
2011-05-31 15:20:00

Author:
Aya042
Posts: 2870


PSN Network Maintenance that was scheduled to take place this evening from Tuesday 31st May at 19.00 GMT until Wednesday 1st June 01.00 GMT has now been postponed.

Between these times there will no longer be any maintenance occuring and you should be able to sign in as normal.

You will still be able to connect and continue your gaming sessions online.

We currently do not have any further information available as to when the maintenance will be rescheduled, although as soon as I have more information available I will update here.

If you have any queries please Tweet or PM me.

http://community.eu.playstation.com/t5/Technical-Help/Maintenance-Postponed-PSN-Maintenance-Scheduled-today-31st-May/td-p/13080401
2011-05-31 19:47:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


It's back and it's bigger.




PlayStation Network is offline for scheduled maintenance from 16:30 on Wednesday 1 June 2011 until 07:01 on Thursday 2 June 2011, GMT.

During the maintenance, you will be unable to access the following services:

* PlayStation Store on PS3 and PSP.
* PlayStation Network Account Management.
* PlayStation Network Account Registration.

In addition, you will not be able to sign in to PlayStation Network from eu.playstation.com. If you wish to play online during the maintenance, please ensure you sign in to PSN before 16:30 on Wednesday 1 June 2011.

During this maintenance, you can continue to collect in-game trophies and these will be updated on your profile once PlayStation Network is back up and running.

http://uk.playstation.com/ps3/news/articles/detail/item284695/PlayStation-Network-scheduled-maintenance/?site_locale=en_GB&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
2011-06-01 10:59:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


I was on yesterday does that count. Dam it I'm at work and will miss the 4.30, yet it's 11.05am here and way before the 4.30 time and I cannot sign into PSN on any websites. But am I surprised... NO not one bit.


Well I'm doing Portal 2 co-op on my Xbox 360 and doing my LBP level offline on my PS3. I can't wait until this is all over and it's back on for good.
2011-06-01 11:09:00

Author:
LittleBigDes
Posts: 920


GREAT SCOTT!

Marty if my calculations are correct the playstation store should be up and running by 6pm tonight, US eastern time of course. If they set the release for any other date and time beside Tuesday May 31st 2011 at 1800 hours then the consequences would be CATASTROPHIC! Any other date and Sony would be altering the SPACE TIME CONTINUUM!

We need precisely 1.21 GIGAWATTS for the time circuits to activate the FLUX CAPACITOR! The only way to achieve that is with something powerful! Bring your XBOX...No Wait! We need more power bring the PS3!

We have to be prepared just in case Sony does not meet the required date, get ready Marty where we are going we need roads, we may have to go BACK TO THE FUTURE........



This is some HEAVY stuff doc...




Meet me at the CLOCK TOWER! We need to get up to 88 MPH! If Sony fails to succeed then we must stop the devastation before it's too late. 1.21 GIGAWATTS! ONE POINT TWENTY ONE GIGAWATTS!



Sorry, but I loved this... anyway still waiting for the store. Not sure when AUS will get it, we were a few days behind the US for the restoration. But I hope as the US clock ticks over I wake up to some good news tomorrow!
2011-06-01 12:56:00

Author:
Mr_Fusion
Posts: 1799


I'm a little confused about this 'Welcome Back' program.

My PS3 got the YLOD just before this ordeal, but will be fixed sometime soon in the coming weeks. So my question is: Do I still get the gifts off Sony, even if my PS3 was broken throughout the whole thing?
Is this program a limited thing or does it just come up next time you log into PSN?

Thanks a lot <3
2011-06-01 13:57:00

Author:
Plasmavore
Posts: 1913


Gamelion
Block Cascade Fusion is coming as Minis for PS3 and PSP to North America on 3rd June 2011!

http://www.facebook.com/gamelion/posts/205511156152826

Either they know something we don't or they've made a mistake.


I'm a little confused about this 'Welcome Back' program.

My PS3 got the YLOD just before this ordeal, but will be fixed sometime soon in the coming weeks. So my question is: Do I still get the gifts off Sony, even if my PS3 was broken throughout the whole thing?
Is this program a limited thing or does it just come up next time you log into PSN?

Thanks a lot <3

Last I saw was the welcome back program will be open for 30 days.
2011-06-01 14:06:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


I dunno how long you have to claim it, but the info specifically said if you had an active account as of.....uh. well, at any rate you have one so it should be all good.

I'd expect you'd have at least a month to claim yer swag, but this is wholly my opinion and based only on what little bit i think i know about how they'd to this.

edit!:

Ha! i was something close to right! do I win a cookie?
2011-06-01 14:07:00

Author:
Memodrix
Posts: 879


My PS3 got the YLOD just before this ordeal, but will be fixed sometime soon in the coming weeks. So my question is: Do I still get the gifts off Sony, even if my PS3 was broken throughout the whole thing?
Is this program a limited thing or does it just come up next time you log into PSN?

Anyone who had a PSN account (not necessarily a working PS3) prior to the downtime is elligible for the programme. If you had multiple accounts, then each account can be used to 'purchase' different gifts.

The gifts must be claimed within 30 days of the restoration of the PS Store, so presumably you'll need a working PS3 to do that.



Either they know something we don't or they've made a mistake.

There were news articles suggesting that game developers had been told the PS Store would be restored by May 26th, so they may well have published release dates which they're not actually able to make.
2011-06-01 14:23:00

Author:
Aya042
Posts: 2870


There were news articles suggesting that game developers had been told the PS Store would be restored by May 26th, so they may well have published release dates which they're not actually able to make.

Yeah I remember that but with this particular release date being published so recently (5 hours ago) I thought it was worth mentioning.
2011-06-01 14:34:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


And I'm yet to reset my password. Seriously Sony???2011-06-01 17:50:00

Author:
gdn001
Posts: 5891


Starting soon, the PlayStation Network will be inaccessible for several hours for maintenance. The server maintenance performed at this time represents a crucial step in the full restoration for PSN, including the PlayStation Store.

During this maintenance period, users will be unable to sign in to PSN, though those that are already logged in should be able to remain online.

Resumption of full PlayStation Network service is still on track for this week in most regions.

Thank you once again for your patience as we work to return PSN to the highest level of service

http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2011/06/01/important-playstation-network-maintenance-today/

Atleast we know that this round of maintenenance is store related.
2011-06-01 18:23:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


eh, better make sure i'm logged in so i can grind online seasonal events later on in Gran Turismo then. for the love of all things mechanical. I spent 1,000,000 credits on a McLaren F1, fully decked it out, and I HATE the thing.....all those races.....ugh.....2011-06-01 18:30:00

Author:
Memodrix
Posts: 879


eh, better make sure i'm logged in so i can grind online seasonal events later on in Gran Turismo then. for the love of all things mechanical. I spent 1,000,000 credits on a McLaren F1, fully decked it out, and I HATE the thing.....all those races.....ugh.....

It's already strated but you may be able to sign in, I managed to 2 hours after it started.
2011-06-01 18:38:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


sad sad sad the PSNstore is still down2011-06-02 04:22:00

Author:
Unknown User


The PS Store is back up and running!!!2011-06-02 06:57:00

Author:
ConverseFox
Posts: 2333


You may have noticed that the content promised as part of the Welcome Back offer is not yet live. It is currently in the final stages of testing and will be available to download very soon; we?ll be sure to let you know when.

http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2011/06/02/playstation-store-is-available-now/#comment-155131
2011-06-02 07:47:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


There should be a free costume pack for LBP
The cinco de mayo one
2011-06-02 07:48:00

Author:
OmegaSlayer
Posts: 5112


For the existing PS+ people


Also, I have just been told that due to the Store coming back a little later than we would have liked, you are getting a further 10 days onto your membership, so 70 days extra in total.

http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2011/06/02/welcome-back-to-playstation-plus/#comment-155459
2011-06-02 11:16:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


That's a bit better at least.

Of course, none of this should have happened in the first place. And during the downtime, I started playing my 360 alot more than I previously was... and during the downtime only bought 360 titles... so even now it's back up - I'm working my way through the 360 back catalogue just now.

You snooze, you lose Sony
2011-06-02 11:55:00

Author:
Macnme
Posts: 1970


PS Store is back up!... sort of. It's really slow and it fails to download the Cinco de Mayo costume.2011-06-02 12:34:00

Author:
lemurboy12
Posts: 842


PS Store is back up!... sort of. It's really slow and it fails to download the Cinco de Mayo costume.

This slowness doesn't surprise me at all. Loads of people have been getting error codes due to heavy traffic, keeps crashing every 10 mins on downloads for people in comments of various sites. Can you imagaine what happens when it's fully back on, PSN up and running with the Welocme back package! The whole thing will probably crash and get overwhelmed from the demand of millions of people trying to access it... again.

Just be patient, Sony released a statement saying that they're aware of this and are working on it.
2011-06-02 12:42:00

Author:
LittleBigDes
Posts: 920


For the existing PS+ people...

Updated OP.

For those getting error codes from the PS Store of the form 80xxxxxx, there's a useful tool here (http://us.playstation.com/support/answer/index.htm?a_id=939) which tells you what they mean.
2011-06-02 15:32:00

Author:
Aya042
Posts: 2870


90% of the codes you'll see now are from the servers getting beaten with requests. common ones are described as 'could not connect to server' and 'could not activate' which if your system is activated under your account, means that it couldn't connect to its (most likely different) server.

Thats right folks, we are DDoS'n the servers into a fetal position.<3

not that this is unexpected.
2011-06-02 15:56:00

Author:
Memodrix
Posts: 879


I have not had a single code pop up. I downloaded tron pack,cinco, and fragrance costumes. Also infamous 2, red faction, and motostorm demos. Then rainbow six 60 min trial. Last but definitely not least episode three of the back to the future series.


New plus users

I'd like to point out three things for the new plus users.

Now when you go to your saved data folder you will see cloud, back up game saves there.

Go to your settings folder and somewhere among the settings you'll see a ps plus symbol and folder that says automatic updates. Just set a time ad your playstation will turn itself on and download game updates and patched then turn itself off. Dont be worried about the time you set. If you playing during that time it will just update when your done.

Just a note on full game trials. You get the 60 minutes of the game starting from the beginning. You will recieve trophies and game saves will work. So basically if you decide to buy it it will start at the point you ended the trial at.

I know this has been talked about but I want to mention it again. Don't be hesitant on buying anything that is discounted through ps plus. You will get to keep it even if you don't sign up again. The only thing to worry about is free games, those will be unplayable after plus expires.

And let's not judge ps plus right now because at least here in the US a ton of content is gone from just a month ago. The selection is not as big as it normally is. I'm sure
'in the coming days'(Sonys famous line) there will be a ton of content added.

The store is working just like new for me, no problems with anything.

One question though. What exacty is this fragrance. I've selected it from the pop it but do not see anything. All the happens is sackboy or girl just mimics the movements of somebody putting on a fragrance. If anyone can tell me what this is for that'd be great. Thanks. Note: fragrance bottles are in the hands section, if that helps any.
2011-06-02 17:32:00

Author:
METALPUNKS
Posts: 306


One question though. What exacty is this fragrance. I've selected it from the pop it but do not see anything. All the happens is sackboy or girl just mimics the movements of somebody putting on a fragrance. If anyone can tell me what this is for that'd be great. Thanks. Note: fragrance bottles are in the hands section, if that helps any.

Thats exactly what they are and all they do.
2011-06-02 17:39:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


Thats exactly what they are and all they do.
Hugh that's a weird add on. So you have to go through all the steps just to get to re fragrance just to see it being used. Instead of putting in the costume settings they should make a micro chip with a ton of different movements. Stuff that can be done normally. Like flexing, punching, drinking, you get the point.
2011-06-02 20:30:00

Author:
METALPUNKS
Posts: 306


Metal, they are an April fools joke, no more...

And I probably have missed it but when does the free plus start and how would I know if I have it?
2011-06-02 20:40:00

Author:
Lockstitch
Posts: 415


Okay, that's it. I've been too patient. Sony is all like "oh PSN is back up, nothing was lost, we're so happy!". And my account? And probably every "marginal" account out there? Left out. One freaking month and I couldn't even change my password. They don't give a **** about these accounts. As long as their "rich" accounts are there, providing cash, it's ok for them.

If I was richer, this would be the point where I buy an Xbox-360 and let my PS3 gather dust. But I can't afford a new console. So I'm creating a new account. They may say that nothing got lost, but when I can't do anything about my account in one month while everyone else can, I assume they just don't care about me.

I'm creating an AMERICAN account, so maybe they'll treat me like a true customer. I'm not doing the mistake of cursing my account by selecting "Brazil" in the country list. This time I'm going to truly be a PSN member.

/rant
2011-06-02 22:00:00

Author:
gdn001
Posts: 5891


So... are we going to get our Hessian Fragrances or not now?2011-06-02 22:29:00

Author:
Thegide
Posts: 1465


So... are we going to get our Hessian Fragrances or not now?They are available.2011-06-02 23:50:00

Author:
EinRobot
Posts: 739


Metal, they are an April fools joke, no more...

And I probably have missed it but when does the free plus start and how would I know if I have it?

Agh I see. I wasn't even thinking April fools. I saw it said that but I was a little confused, I get it thanks.

For your question.

Well If you were already signed up then it's been added. For new users it'll be with the actual welcome back package which has yet to be released. I think on the blog they said in the next couple days. It's not something that just pops up oneday, well that is not how it was done before. I'm sure they will have it set up where you go into the and download it, sort of like an app. You can't miss if you have though, there will be the gold plus symbol next to your name.

Also if you want to check the status of your plus plan you go into account management then I forget exactly but you should see a folder that says service list. In there you'll find two ps plus options. One shows what plan you have and the other shows your start and expiration date. Also from there you can turn off automatic renewal which if you have a credit card on you Psn account that option will be on, meaning it'll take the money directly out of your account when plus expires, I turn it off, they are not touching my money like that.

I probably answered more than you needed but I hope it helped.
2011-06-03 01:02:00

Author:
METALPUNKS
Posts: 306


I just want to log in to LBP.me. 2011-06-03 01:03:00

Author:
schm0
Posts: 1239


I just want to log in to LBP.me.

me too, me...too.
2011-06-03 03:06:00

Author:
biorogue
Posts: 8424


I wonder when this thread will be tooken down. We should have a celebration when it is, when this is gone it will mean all this is finally over. Pretty soon once they put out the welcome back program and everyone gets set up there won't be a thing to talk about. Unless maybe this can be the official LBPCENTRAL thread that'll cover anything to do with the network, store, downloads and even troubleshooting. Actually we can post all the updates that come out for the ps3. Ok now I'm a little off topic.

I'll say throughout the restoration I have not had a single error code or any other problems. Everything was quick and easy. I understand some of you had problems, that sucks.

When people live outside of the US and they say they are gonna start a US account how does that work. I know that downloads are different. Stuff like demos and games released may be different from one country to another. I don't get it, if I wanted to make a Japan account would I get the demos from there. Also is it against rules. Why would people want a US account any way, is it better over here for them, more games and demos?
2011-06-03 04:29:00

Author:
METALPUNKS
Posts: 306


When people live outside of the US and they say they are gonna start a US account how does that work. I know that downloads are different. Stuff like demos and games released may be different from one country to another. I don't get it, if I wanted to make a Japan account would I get the demos from there. Also is it against rules. Why would people want a US account any way, is it better over here for them, more games and demos?

Create new account, pick the US as the location enter fake details.

I find it useful for getting demos early (although that happens alot less now than it did 4 years ago) and for whatever freebies i can acquire.
2011-06-03 06:24:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


Okay, that's it. I've been too patient. Sony is all like "oh PSN is back up, nothing was lost, we're so happy!". And my account? And probably every "marginal" account out there? Left out. One freaking month and I couldn't even change my password. They don't give a **** about these accounts. As long as their "rich" accounts are there, providing cash, it's ok for them.

If I was richer, this would be the point where I buy an Xbox-360 and let my PS3 gather dust. But I can't afford a new console. So I'm creating a new account. They may say that nothing got lost, but when I can't do anything about my account in one month while everyone else can, I assume they just don't care about me.

I'm creating an AMERICAN account, so maybe they'll treat me like a true customer. I'm not doing the mistake of cursing my account by selecting "Brazil" in the country list. This time I'm going to truly be a PSN member.

/rant

What's the problem, why can't you resset your password?



When people live outside of the US and they say they are gonna start a US account how does that work. I know that downloads are different. Stuff like demos and games released may be different from one country to another. I don't get it, if I wanted to make a Japan account would I get the demos from there. Also is it against rules. Why would people want a US account any way, is it better over here for them, more games and demos?

There are many reasons why make different region accounts,
Like PSN store having different things per region, or PS Home also being different per region, its kinda fun visiting on other regions somethings, amongst other things, so I do recommend making one, you can also keep up to date with whats new over there.

Btw, if you're planning on making an Asian account, I recommend making it from Hong Kong, there' a choice to have it it in English.
(Tho not atm, PSN is still down in Hong Kong.)
2011-06-03 08:35:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707


Anyone know when we get our welcome back stuff?2011-06-03 14:19:00

Author:
Unknown User


What's the problem, why can't you resset your password?



There are many reasons why make different region accounts,
Like PSN store having different things per region, or PS Home also being different per region, its kinda fun visiting on other regions somethings, amongst other things, so I do recommend making one, you can also keep up to date with whats new over there.

Btw, if you're planning on making an Asian account, I recommend making it from Hong Kong, there' a choice to have it it in English.
(Tho not atm, PSN is still down in Hong Kong.)


Does it do anything to my other account at all? Also will my account still remain the primary account.

What about email. Do i need a different one from over there.

And finally what place do you recommend I open an account in?

Thanks, I just can't believe they allow you to do this. I had no clue.There are a few times I saw a different country getting stuff that we can't.

Im sorry one more question. I have never made a different account and was wondering how does it work when you download a game. when you open that account are all you games and games saves that are on the hardrive show up on the new account. Or is it a clean slate. Im confused
2011-06-03 14:40:00

Author:
METALPUNKS
Posts: 306


I wonder when this thread will be tooken down.

Tooken?

Anyway, I have the same questions as metal about the different accounts.
2011-06-03 16:58:00

Author:
biorogue
Posts: 8424


Hey how do we know what games are free now?2011-06-03 17:06:00

Author:
aceofthorns
Posts: 288


Welcome Back Program has started

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/06/03/welcome-back/

We’re so excited to welcome you back to PlayStation Network. With the PlayStation Store back online, we’ve been getting all caught up this week, having launched an abundance of amazing content for download on PlayStation 3 and PlayStation Portable devices across games, movies, themes and DLC. Today, we’re excited to launch the Welcome Back program to thank you for your loyalty, and below, we’ve got what you need in order to get access to the included content. So, here’s a list of questions about the program. If you don’t see your question below, mention it in the comments and we’ll do our best to provide an answer. Thanks again for your patience and understanding as we restored the PlayStation Network and Qriocity services – your support has meant a lot to us and is greatly appreciated.

Q: What’s in the Welcome Back Program?
A: To start, all PSN members who had signed up before the outage (April 20, 2011) will be able to select two games for the PS3 and two games for the PSP systems.
For PS3 owners, go to the ‘Welcome Back’ section in the PlayStation Store, and select 2 titles from the following list:
Dead Nation
inFAMOUS
LittleBigPlanet
Super Stardust HD
Wipeout HD + Fury
For PSP owners, go to the ‘Welcome Back’ section of PlayStation Store on your PSP system and select 2 titles from the following list:
LittleBigPlanet (PSP)
ModNation Racers
Pursuit Force
Killzone Liberation
Select your first game from “Game 1”, then return to the Welcome Back page and go to “Game 2” to select your second game out of the remaining choices available. This goes for both PS3 and PSP.
In addition, we’re giving access to our premium subscription service, PlayStation Plus, which includes games, huge discounts, exciting exclusives and added features like online storage and automatic downloads, to all PSN members for 30 days at no charge, requiring no long term commitment. As with the games above, go to the PlayStation Store and under the ‘Welcome Back’ section, select ‘PlayStation Plus: 30 Days Free’, and you’ll be given access to all of the benefits of PlayStation Plus. Note that this will not auto-renew and simply expires 30 days after activation.
Current Plus subscribers receive an extra 60 days added to their existing subscription at no charge. For current Plus subscribers, no action is needed as the 60 days are automatically added to your subscription.
PlayStation Network users will also get 100 virtual items in PlayStation Home as a show of appreciation for your patience while Home was inaccessible. Additional content is coming soon, including the next addition to the Home Mansion personal space, and Ooblag’s Alien Casino, an exclusive game.
A selection of “On Us” movie rentals are currently available to PlayStation Network customers this weekend only, where Video Service is available.
Finally, current Music Unlimited Premium subscription members will receive an additional 30 days of premium subscription plus days lost due to the outage.
Q: When will I have access to the Welcome Back Program?
A: The content offered as part of the Welcome Back Program is available for download today and will be available through July 3.
Q: I have both PS3 and PSP. Does this mean I will get 4 games all together?
A: Yes, as long as you were a PSN member before April 20, 2011, you’ll be able to receive up to 4 games based on the titles listed above; 2 on each platform.
Q: Are there any limitations to the PS3 and PSP games we are receiving as part of the Welcome Back Program?
A: None. These games are yours to keep.
Q: How long do I have to get into the PlayStation Store and receive my content for Welcome Back?
A: Access to the Welcome Back content will be expiring on July 3. Once this date has passed, the Welcome Back section in the PlayStation Store will be removed.
Q: When does the 30 days of my PlayStation Plus access expire?
A: Your PlayStation Plus 30-day access will expire 30 days from the date you activated it in PlayStation Store.
Q: When will (insert game here) be published?
A: Look forward to posts over the coming days that will show what content will be available at that point, or coming soon. We’re planning frequent store publishes offering lots of new content for everyone to enjoy.
Q: I’m getting 30 days of access to PlayStation Plus; can you refresh my memory on what I get with this service?
A: From the time you activate your 30 days of PlayStation Plus, you’ll be able to download games and game related content, purchase select store items at a discount, and have access to the exclusive features of Plus. You’ll also be able to get early access to any Plus exclusive Demos and priority Beta invitations that might be scheduled during your 30 days.
Q: Do I get to keep the games in PlayStation Plus forever?
A: Content that is free in PlayStation Plus will not be available after your PlayStation Plus time has expired. However, if you decide to join PlayStation Plus, you’ll have access to all of the content you downloaded during your 30 day access for as long as you are a subscriber.
Q: Do I get to keep any games or content I purchased with the PlayStation Plus discount?
A: Yes. Any content you purchase at a discount is yours to keep, regardless of your subscription status.
Q: Aside from the games and discounts; does PlayStation Plus offer anything else?
A: Yes! PlayStation Plus includes the Online Storage for Game Saves feature, allowing you to backup treasured game saves or access them from another PS3. In addition, you get the Automatic Download feature, which automatically updates your 10 most recently played games while the system is in stand-by mode so you don’t have to wait for updates before playing your games.
Q: What content will be in PlayStation Plus when I activate my 30 days?
A: PlayStation Plus content and discounts are regularly updated throughout the month. For up-to-date information on content within PlayStation Plus, please visit the Plus homepage.
Q: Where can I find the Welcome Back content in Home?
A: The 100 virtual items can be found in the kiosk in Home’s Central Plaza along with two personal spaces – Dragon’s Lair and the Mansion Garage. A new game – Ooblag’s Alien Casino – will be released soon (June 2011). This game will be 100% free-to-play. As an added bonus, players that access the Ooblag Alien Casino space will be rewarded an active item version of the Ooblag game that can be played in your personal space(s).









Tooken?

Anyway, I have the same questions as metal about the different accounts.

Tooken looking cooking lol. My iPhone auto corrects every single word. Most of the time it changes it from a correct word to incorrect word. Auto correct sucks. But for some reason my phone slows down with it off.

Anyway ya I'm very interested in a second account. I just don't want to mess up my primary account. So technically country's that cannot access the store can if they open a US account. I'm so confused. There has to be a catch 22.
2011-06-03 17:59:00

Author:
METALPUNKS
Posts: 306


So the Welcome Back package is up on the NA Store, I downloaded my "free game 1" and "free game 2" neither of which are showing up in XMB (couldn't even choose the games from the list). So did my beloved Sony region block these downloads? I am Canadian living somewhere that does not have a PSN Store, there are many others like me and I suspect there will be many ****** off people if this is the route Sony chose lol (I am not too bothered, just annoyed. I have put more money in Sony's pockets then most). Could not find any info online yet, let's see where this goes...2011-06-03 18:07:00

Author:
OCK
Posts: 1536


actually, it wont let me do anything either. the way its set up in teh store makes it confusing as to whats going on, but it's like we're using our choices, and not getting credit for purchasing them.2011-06-03 19:29:00

Author:
Memodrix
Posts: 879


I've got two PSN accounts made before that date... does that mean I get 4 games? (Both UK)



I'm having real trouble downloading these games now - it's like they've disappeared off the menu. The only option says PS +...
2011-06-03 19:29:00

Author:
standby250
Posts: 1113


Ok heres what ya do.

Look for the game you got in the normal games list. (Games>ps3 games>t-z in the case of wipeout hd)

It'll show up as purchased and you can download it from there.

EDIT: ok, perhaps that really isn't working like i thought it was. Hmm.....

Does that mean i purchased that game and don't remember it.
2011-06-03 19:35:00

Author:
Memodrix
Posts: 879


Very annoyed that this is only a 30-day offer.

I have YLOD.
2011-06-03 19:41:00

Author:
Plasmavore
Posts: 1913


I will answer many questions :
First, the free PSN+ is for 30 days, you must download it in the welcome back section. Game bought with discounts will stay yours forever, but free games will stop working when your account is over.
Second : the store is having some lags, so if you were not able to download the free games and now you lost the free game icon from the welcome back section, don't panic. Leave the store and go to account management, transaction something (sorry, I speak french so I don't have the english words for this), service list, SCEA Promotion. There you should find the free game one and free game two.
3rd : if when you try the previous solution, it makes you choose a game, then it says : "this game was already bought, choose download instead" (or something like this), leave the menu and go to your download list. The actual game you chose will be on the list. Select it, it should work.

Hope that helps, I am having lots of lags myself so I searched a bit on the PSBlog for this. I'm in Canada, and it lags like hell. Plus it will take 5 hours to download each game
By the way, the first post of this thing should be edited. You can have 2 PS3 but also 2 PSP games. Replace OR with AND.
2011-06-03 19:52:00

Author:
Unknown User


Thank you very much! Very helpful - I believe it says "Transaction Management"!

And Plasmavore - don't worry. I think it's always there until you claim it - the offer doesn't expire. It waits for you to activate it.

2011-06-03 20:00:00

Author:
standby250
Posts: 1113


I can confirm that this does work, but you'll be fighting lag till forever to get to download the thing.2011-06-03 20:03:00

Author:
Memodrix
Posts: 879


I'm getting the error code every time I enter PlayStationStore. Why only me?2011-06-03 20:16:00

Author:
Silver39
Posts: 1703


If you're getting errors when you download your free games check your download list they should show up there and activation is more likely to work.


I'm getting the error code every time I enter PlayStationStore. Why only me?

It can take loads of attempts for it to work.
2011-06-03 20:27:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


AAAAAARG ! I counted 15 seconds for 1 MB. This means I would have to leave my PS3 on and downloading for over 30 hours just to download 2 PS3 games ! AAAARG !
With the PSP games and the games I will buy with my PSN card, it will take more than 5 days !!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARG ! I'm sick, so all I can do is lie in bed or in front of the TV, but what does it say ? PSN encountered an error 098w450920928 or Downloading 1% done. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARG. There is one good thing. We changed our internet service, it will become 10 times faster in one day or two. So I guess it will be allright. I hope. Arg.
2011-06-03 20:39:00

Author:
Unknown User


**** PSN.

I lost my Welcome Back games tab because their sh***y servers timed out at the most inconvenient time.


if sonyPSN=phail()

then run():deleteFreeGames

()

end
2011-06-03 21:51:00

Author:
davestanley
Posts: 87


Yeah I managed to get 2 games in my queue, let's see how long it takes to DL. Sony, I still love you All these errors are due to the insane amount of traffic the PS Store is experiencing, just keep trying.2011-06-03 21:53:00

Author:
OCK
Posts: 1536


This is going to be an intensive gaming month, 30 days to get through the PS+ content from 2 regions.

Go complain on the blog and message their community managers on twitter, it's only going to get sorted if they know whats gone wrong.
2011-06-03 22:24:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


Just typical. I thought they would have anticipated this amount of heavy traffic. Every time I go into the store or even try Sony's so called fix of going through my account management to access the Welcome Back package this is what I get:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3205/5794902182_940eeaf6a9_z.jpg

UPDATE:
Can't even sign into websites using my PSN login. Yes I need to use the official Sony forums.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3643/5794401549_da40256903_z.jpg
2011-06-03 22:54:00

Author:
LittleBigDes
Posts: 920


Saw this on some blog:


If you lose the program (go to)
Account management
Transaction management
Services list
SCEA Promotions
2011-06-03 22:57:00

Author:
Burrich
Posts: 1018


Sony have just published a FAQ for the Welcome Back Program which is worth reading...


NA region (http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/06/03/welcome-back/)
EU region (http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2011/06/03/welcome-back-content-is-available-now-frequently-asked-questions-answered/)


Also added same links to OP.
2011-06-03 23:23:00

Author:
Aya042
Posts: 2870


Saw this on some blog:
If you lose the program (go to)
Account management
Transaction management
Services list
SCEA Promotions


Ha tried that, in my previous post, still get a stupid error code shown in my images before. I'm not even bothering to try any more today.
2011-06-04 00:02:00

Author:
LittleBigDes
Posts: 920


What's the problem, why can't you resset your password?
Yes, and Des just posted the problem:

UPDATE:
Can't even sign into websites using my PSN login. Yes I need to use the official Sony forums.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3643/5794401549_da40256903_z.jpg (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3643/5794401549_da40256903_z.jpg)
That is all that I've been getting since PSN was back up until now. If I try to login in the site, error; if I use the link provided in the e-mail, error. It won't let me reset in my PS3 (like my brother did, his account is american by the way), instead it will send an e-mail with an useless link.
2011-06-04 00:11:00

Author:
gdn001
Posts: 5891


I also lost one "Welcome Back" game due to Playstation Store errors... I am NOT a happy camper.2011-06-04 01:09:00

Author:
illuminationx
Posts: 860


going to account management through your xmb DOES work. It just takes Forever. and several attempts. And don't expect the thing to get any better for a couple of days at least, probably more, till the traffic dies down. The amount of server power needed (and bandwidth) to service millions of customers doing the exact same thing is astronomical.

It'll get better eventually, you just need to exercise patie......ah who am i kidding, we are a group used to instant gratification....and it has been a month long train wreck.....

but yea, it'll work,.................................eventually.. ....
2011-06-04 01:20:00

Author:
Memodrix
Posts: 879


Im getting an error message every time I try to get the infamous 2 Demo. D:

-tP
2011-06-04 01:52:00

Author:
ThePineapplizer
Posts: 769


Still no welcome back thing2011-06-04 03:28:00

Author:
jimydog000
Posts: 813


Weirdly, I went on the psn last night, I was able to connect to the free games library, I selected one at random to see if it would actually work, then I quit. Today I went back on, selected the 'welcome back' tab, looked at the list of available icons, the free games was missing?

Ive read on the internet that the offer was able untill 3rd of June? But I've also read on the psn blog that everything is available for the next 30 days, which statement is true? I'm currently downloading the game I chose by going to 'view downloads' as it is listed on there. I'll try doing what the psn blog says later after this download has finished.

Psn has gone very weird lately.

Never mind, following the playstation blogs information, you are still able to access the content with the following method.

2.Log into your PlayStation Network account and choose Account Management > Transaction Management > Services List
2011-06-04 11:29:00

Author:
dbibby88
Posts: 378


Quick question: is PSN+ available for 30 days from the date of the Welcome Back package being introduced or is it available for 30 days after you've signed up for it irrespective of the date?2011-06-04 12:29:00

Author:
Ayneh
Posts: 2454


Quick question: is PSN+ available for 30 days from the date of the Welcome Back package being introduced or is it available for 30 days after you've signed up for it irrespective of the date?

30 days from when you start it.
2011-06-04 12:51:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


hi,I just want to get infamous but It just don't appear in Welcome Back Free ps3 games column,and my service list don't have SCEA Promotions,only Welcome BackL Free PS3 Games ticket,PLaystation Plus,and Playstation home.pls help me 2011-06-04 15:10:00

Author:
Unknown User


Quick questions -

If my brother has a PSN account and I have a separate account, do we each get PSN Plus on each of our accounts? (Both accounts were made well before the outage and we share a PS3). If so, do we each get to choose two games each? Do the games carry over from one account into the next?
2011-06-04 15:18:00

Author:
WoodburyRaider
Posts: 1651


Yeah, for those of you in the U.S. getting error messages and missing the free game icons, go here (http://us.playstation.com/psn/welcome-back/) or follow these directions:

*If you do not immediately select your free game after downloading Welcome Back Free PS3™ Game 1 or Welcome Back Free PS3™ Game 2, you need to perform the following steps in order to claim your free game:

1. Exit PlayStation?Store

2. From the XMB™: select ‘Account Management’ -> ‘Transaction Management’ -> ‘Services List’ -> ‘SCEA Promotion’

3. Select ‘Welcome Back Free PS3™ Game 1’ or ‘Welcome Back Free PS3™ Game 2’ (whichever product has remaining uses)

4. Select ‘Select Content’ button and select your game

Edit: Thanks, Aya for posting this link above... helps if the mods read the forums 'round here sometimes.
2011-06-04 15:59:00

Author:
schm0
Posts: 1239


If my brother has a PSN account and I have a separate account, do we each get PSN Plus on each of our accounts?

Yes.



If so, do we each get to choose two games each?

Yes. Technically you can choose four each: two for PS3 and two for PSP.



Do the games carry over from one account into the next?

Sort of. The ability to download the titles you each select will be limited to the account which selected them, but if you both download them to the same PS3, you can both play all four titles.
2011-06-04 16:30:00

Author:
Aya042
Posts: 2870


30 days from when you start it.
So if you had two or more accounts and activated them sequentially you'd have 60+ days of PSN+ :o
2011-06-04 16:44:00

Author:
Ayneh
Posts: 2454


So if you had two or more accounts and activated them sequentially you'd have 60+ days of PSN+ :o

Well, 60 days max, I guess. I believe you only have 30 days to claim the free PSN+ before the offer expires.
2011-06-04 16:54:00

Author:
Aya042
Posts: 2870


They've thought this through haven't they.

lol
2011-06-04 17:12:00

Author:
Ayneh
Posts: 2454


Maybe a little off topic but it may have something to do with welcome back.

So I have ps plus and I have the automatic download on. Which if your on the ps plus 30 day trial you need to do this. Basically in your setting menu you can turn on auto download. All updates and patches will be downloaded and installed for the last ten games you've played. Also if your downloading stuff from the store it will continue doing that and installing it. I love it, I never wait for anything. Especially when you got a bunch of demos and games that take days to download. They will just download while your ps3 turns itself on for the time you set it to turn on. Any question about that topic an I can answer them.


Ok so now my question. Lastnight my ps3 turned on for auto download. It downloaded netflix version 2.03. I turned on my ps3 today and saw the download in the capsule form above my games folder. So I installed it and now my netflix is not working. Is there a problem with Netflix today due to all the heavy traffic. I'm not sure if it was working before the update but it is definitely not working now. I'm almost postitive the update is for the deal Netflix just signed. They started a contract with Mirimax Films. We were told to expect 800 new titles this week and more added every week after that.

Sorry it seems I'm all over the place with this question lol. I want to know if anyone else is having problems with Netflix and also if you have received the update. If your not sure you can check the version of Netflix you have by going to the icon under the video tab. Just press triangle then info and you will find it there.

Thanks for the help.
Oh yeah and I have a few codes I will give away if you want to try put netflix for 1 month free. Just send me a message either here or on Psn(METALPUNKS). I'll be happy to share it with. Details of the Netflix promotion are 30 days of instant download and 1 disk out at a time. For 2 bucks you can upgrade the DVD to blu ray.
2011-06-04 18:08:00

Author:
METALPUNKS
Posts: 306


So I have ps plus and I have the automatic download on. Which if your on the ps plus 30 day trial you need to do this.

Just to avoid confusion, he's talking figuratively. You don't actually need to do it. I never use it, I always take my PS3 off stand-by with the power button at the back to save electricity.
2011-06-04 18:30:00

Author:
Rogar
Posts: 2284


Just to avoid confusion, he's talking figuratively. You don't actually need to do it. I never use it, I always take my PS3 off stand-by with the power button at the back to save electricity.

No you need to do it. Lol. Ok let me rephrase. It's a great feature that you don't need but is a great perk. Your ps3 will not act any differently if you decide it is not for you. If your one those people yet shuts the ps3 off from the back then it's not for you. If your one of those people that downloads a ton of games and demos then it's for you. It's also great for people that have slower Internet connections. The downloads will continue when it turns on at the set time you have chosen. It's not for everyone, in my opinion it's the best feature offered with ps plus. Saves a ton of time since I have a load of downloaded games and I download almost everything the store offers. I have close to 500 downloads on my download list. Tons of dlc mostly. Stuff like music for rockband and guitar hero and almost every gam and demo the store has to offer. I'm a download junkie.


Just to avoid confusion, he's talking figuratively. You don't actually need to do it. I never use it, I always take my PS3 off stand-by with the power button at the back to save electricity.

Sorry quoted again but I have to point put auto download is great and anyone that owns a ps slim has their ps3 in stand by mode all the time anyway. Unless they unplug it. There is no switch. It's actually not good to switch it on and off all the time. A friend of mine did that all the time, I always said it was not a good idea. Sure enough his ps3 messed up from doing it all the time. What happens when you do it is you take the chance of corrupting your data and also you slowly destroy the back up battery that protects you data during a surge. The main reason Sony stopped putting switchs on them was to avoid damaged ps3's during their warranty period. They had so many ps3's that had to repaired from that, they just said screw the switch. But I guess if your trying to help the planet then you can just unplug it. It save almost no energy to do switch it off or unplug it. It's not like a microwave that actually takes a small amount of power to keep in standby. The ps3 actually has a back up battery that stores the energy. Just like your tv, there is no switch on a tv, it's always in stand by mode when turned off.

Whoops way off topic. Sorry. So ya anyway I was having a huge problem downloading my welcome back games yesterday. Today I turn on my ps3 and there they are installed and ready to go. That's what the automatic download does.


I have (finally) gotten a reply from Sony about the Welcome Back program, and how I am unable to take advantage of it.
Their reply mentioned that I must d/l the games etc thru the PS3. I may be able to persuade a relative to allow me to do this,
(I have limits on monthly access), but I have another question...
Once I d/l the game to my PS3, what happens during a power outage?
If the game files ever get corrupted for any reason, I have the originals of every PS3 title I've purchased,
but not what I will d/l from Sony. After the Welcome Back program expires, I will have no backup...
Is there a workaround?

The back ups should be in your download list just like anythig else you download from psn. I let my plus expire once and everything remained intact. All games were on my download list but I could not play anything until I signed up for plus again. It will all be the same. You will even see the games on your hard drive. A message will pop up prompting you to either sign back up or buy the game itself.
2011-06-04 18:51:00

Author:
METALPUNKS
Posts: 306


I have (finally) gotten a reply from Sony about the Welcome Back program, and how I am unable to take advantage of it.
Their reply mentioned that I must d/l the games etc thru the PS3. I may be able to persuade a relative to allow me to do this,
(I have limits on monthly access), but I have another question...
Once I d/l the game to my PS3, what happens during a power outage?
If the game files ever get corrupted for any reason, I have the originals of every PS3 title I've purchased,
but not what I will d/l from Sony. After the Welcome Back program expires, I will have no backup...
Is there a workaround?
2011-06-04 20:35:00

Author:
Unknown User


I think you can download the games again in account management/services/welcome back or something, up to 5 times (or five PS3s).2011-06-04 22:06:00

Author:
gdn001
Posts: 5891


I have (finally) gotten a reply from Sony about the Welcome Back program, and how I am unable to take advantage of it.
Their reply mentioned that I must d/l the games etc thru the PS3. I may be able to persuade a relative to allow me to do this,
(I have limits on monthly access), but I have another question...
Once I d/l the game to my PS3, what happens during a power outage?
If the game files ever get corrupted for any reason, I have the originals of every PS3 title I've purchased,
but not what I will d/l from Sony. After the Welcome Back program expires, I will have no backup...
Is there a workaround?

Anything you download stays on your download list forever.
2011-06-04 22:10:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


Wtf is this? I got these 5 free games,The Last Guy,LocoRoc Buu Buu Cocoreccho,Trash Box,Hustle Kings and Wipeout HD.Seriously? Where is Infamous? **** it!!...I am ****** off...2011-06-05 09:08:00

Author:
Unknown User


Wtf is this? I got these 5 free games,The Last Guy,LocoRoc Buu Buu Cocoreccho,Trash Box,Hustle Kings and Wipeout HD.Seriously? Where is Infamous? **** it!!...I am ****** off...

Are you in Japan?
2011-06-05 10:06:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


...I just found out Asia and NA are different... I live in South East Asia...so yeah,we download suck games.2011-06-05 10:25:00

Author:
Unknown User


I in Scotland and it keeps saying PS Plus isnt available in your region, but it is because it worked with my brother.2011-06-05 10:58:00

Author:
craigmond
Posts: 2426


What happens when you do it is you take the chance of corrupting your data and also you slowly destroy the back up battery that protects you data during a surge. The main reason Sony stopped putting switchs on them was to avoid damaged ps3's during their warranty period.

I always turn it off the regular way before using the back switch, so I highly doubt there's any chance of corrupted data. Battery, maybe. Do you have a source for this?


Just like your tv, there is no switch on a tv, it's always in stand by mode when turned off.

Actually, there is a power switch on my TV, but now it's called an Energy Saving Switch. Marketing people, eh?
2011-06-05 13:44:00

Author:
Rogar
Posts: 2284


I always turn it off the regular way before using the back switch, so I highly doubt there's any chance of corrupted data. Battery, maybe. Do you have a source for this?



Actually, there is a power switch on my TV, but now it's called an Energy Saving Switch. Marketing people, eh?

Not so much a source I can post here(found one, its an edit further down). This was all said to my friend when his ps3 busted. He brought it to best buy first to see what was going on. They couldn't fix it so they sent it to Sony and the paper said the problem was data corrupted from excessive switch use. I always told him it was not a good idea because I had read something a while back where Sony said they were taking the switch out because it was misused.

See what happened was I always told my friend it wasnt a good idea and he never believed me. So when it finally broke It was one of those 'told you so'. I did feel bad but at least now he won't make the mistake again.

I still say if your careful you should have no problem. The only other thing you'd have to worry about is the back up battery getting worn down but honestly the chances of that happening are 1 in a million.

Another example of the switch being bad is when your ps3 freezes for whatever reason, people tend to switch it off. Well that's very bad. You can find this in the ps3 troubleshooting guide. What you are supposed to do and most people do not know this is hold the power button for ten seconds and do a full restart.

You can look on the Internet anywhere and you should fine the majority of people saying that they either don't mess with the switch or don't even have to worry about it because try have a slim with no switch.

Basically if used incorrectly you run the chance of screwing up your hard drive. If you know what your doing then keep doing it the way you always have been. Hey it's always worked for you, right? If something works for me I don't care what anybody says I'm gonna keep the way I do things the same. I am not one of those people that went out and got a slim a just because it was slim. I had my 80 gb fat since a few months after release. The only reason I got the slim was because when I moved something happened to my ps3 in the process of moving. Worked fine prior to moving. Unpacked it and it just started freezing all the time. I loved my ps3 fat. I miss Betsy. Lol.

I did find an expample. This is just one search I did and the first thing that pops up is this.

http://community.us.playstation.com/thread/1653162?start=0&tstart=0

At one time it was just preference, ever since the slim released with no switch people realized why. I will say I unplug my machine when I leave for more than 2 days.
It's basically like a computer. Most computer company's recommend a soft restart meaning do not do a full shutdown all the time. You'll find computer manufacturers will make a note of excessive shutdowns in the guide, saying that over time it may do more hurt than good.


Edit: I knew I read this somewhere. You can also find where Sony says this in the manual, if you have the ps3 fat manual.

This is from a Q and A directly from Sony. Basically what it's saying is they recommend that you only do a full shutdown if your not using your ps3 for a long period of time. I understand it doesn't say it's necessarily a bad thing to switch it off, but they never said they reccomeded it, also they say stand by is recommended.

Q and A/ source

We recommend setting the PlayStation?3 system to stand-by mode (with the red light on) whenever you are not playing the system. We recommend you completely power down the system by unplugging it from the outlet when you are not using the PS3 system for an extended period of time.


More detail in the link below

Link: http://playstation.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/805/kw/Powering%20off/session/L3RpbWUvMTMwNzI4MjY2NS9zaWQvNnRvWGRMdms%3D

I do my little part to help the planet by having my ps3 set to auto shutoff.



Okay wow I think this is getting way off topic sorry.
So back to the topic.
Is everywhere in the world getting free movie rental. So far the US has gotten some Final fantasy movie, ghostbusters and bad boys. Are the selections different in other parts of the world?

After playing the games that were given to us what one do like the most. I've played them all so I'd say infamous was a great choice for them considering 2 is around the corner.
2011-06-05 14:56:00

Author:
METALPUNKS
Posts: 306


Well I'm pretty happy over all with the psn welcome back package, as I've managed to swindle 6 games out of them (instead of the 2 ps3 and 2 psp). This is because I had two accounts on my ps3 before the hack. You can't really grumble at 6 free games.

I'm happy that the psn is also getting back to normal, with the 'error' codes becoming minimal, less hang up loads and less people trying to access the downloads sections.

It finally feels like the psn is back to normal.
2011-06-05 16:52:00

Author:
dbibby88
Posts: 378


It finally feels like the psn is back to normal.

On that note, I just noticed the lbp.me sign-in is working again.

This may also mean the password reset form is also working.
2011-06-05 16:59:00

Author:
Aya042
Posts: 2870


Yeah aya it is definitely working. I changed two passwords yesterday.

People found a loop hole going through Qirocity to change their passwords, which works.

If you go to qriocity.com, click forgot password, it will ask you for your date of bith and email address. Once done It sends you an email, you click a link, put in a activiation code to see if your real and then it asks you to change your password. I did this twice yesterday, one for my girlfriends account and another for mine because I forgot what random password I'd put in once I installed the original sony update.

Just make sure you select your region when going on to qriocity because it's automatically set to America, which obviously doesn't work if your psn is Europe.
2011-06-05 17:03:00

Author:
dbibby88
Posts: 378


Yeah aya it is definitely working. I changed two passwords yesterday.

People found a loop hole going through Qirocity to change their passwords, which works.

If you go to qriocity.com, click forgot password, it will ask you for your date of bith and email address. Once done It sends you an email, you click a link, put in a activiation code to see if your real and then it asks you to change your password. I did this twice yesterday, one for my girlfriends account and another for mine because I forgot what random password I'd put in once I installed the original sony update.

Just make sure you select your region when going on to qriocity because it's automatically set to America, which obviously doesn't work if your psn is Europe.

So are you changing your password because of everything that went down or is this a different reason. I did it the minute we got back online. Some people were having trouble doing it remember. I changed it right from the account management that is online from your computer.

I'm asking you this but also other people can answer. Did you ever enter credit card info prior to April 19th? If yes are you going to continue to. I'm asking because I'm a little hesitant on giving them that info now. Of course they say it's safer now then before. But honestly I hate when people refer to something and say "they". I do it all the time from habit. Who is "they" anyway, right?

So ya anyway I just want to know what most of the community is doing with entering card info. It's much easier for me to do it that way but is it worth the risk. At the same time I feel safer then I have before, only because Sony spent so much time rebuilding and making it safe for us. I guess in the US we do have that identity protection Sony gave us. But even with that if something ever happened with fraud or theft it would be a total headache. I had a very small case of identity theft a while back and that was the biggest pain ever. It took me 6months just to prove I was me. It happened three years ago and I still feel the aftershocks of it. What made it worse I had the same type of thing Sony offered but through my bank. I was kinda of worried about the protection plan. Only because when all that happened to me it was because they changed the security question that I had with the Identity theft protection plan. I was totally shocked that I had been paying money to these people to protect my identity and they did everything but. This offer Sony had seem to be a ton more secure. So I gave it a go.

Sorry I kept babbling. The only real question I have is about giving Sony credit card info. I'm trying to make a poll. Just answer yes or no. In the end I'd like to get a percentage and base my decision off what the majority thinks. Thanks.
2011-06-05 17:30:00

Author:
METALPUNKS
Posts: 306


I never used PlayStation network cards, had my debit info from day one. Still do, and I'm not going to change that.2011-06-05 20:37:00

Author:
Memodrix
Posts: 879


This may also mean the password reset form is also working.
I tried to reset again, this time the login screen showed up, but...

If I try to put my information in the spaces and login, it says "store not available in your country";
And if I hit "forgot my password" it shows the same old mainentance screen.

I ask, Sony, when will you give my account back?
2011-06-05 20:49:00

Author:
gdn001
Posts: 5891


So are you changing your password because of everything that went down or is this a different reason. I did it the minute we got back online. Some people were having trouble doing it remember. I changed it right from the account management that is online from your computer.

I'm asking you this but also other people can answer. Did you ever enter credit card info prior to April 19th? If yes are you going to continue to. I'm asking because I'm a little hesitant on giving them that info now. Of course they say it's safer now then before. But honestly I hate when people refer to something and say "they". I do it all the time from habit. Who is "they" anyway, right?

So ya anyway I just want to know what most of the community is doing with entering card info. It's much easier for me to do it that way but is it worth the risk. At the same time I feel safer then I have before, only because Sony spent so much time rebuilding and making it safe for us. I guess in the US we do have that identity protection Sony gave us. But even with that if something ever happened with fraud or theft it would be a total headache. I had a very small case of identity theft a while back and that was the biggest pain ever. It took me 6months just to prove I was me. It happened three years ago and I still feel the aftershocks of it. What made it worse I had the same type of thing Sony offered but through my bank. I was kinda of worried about the protection plan. Only because when all that happened to me it was because they changed the security question that I had with the Identity theft protection plan. I was totally shocked that I had been paying money to these people to protect my identity and they did everything but. This offer Sony had seem to be a ton more secure. So I gave it a go.

Sorry I kept babbling. The only real question I have is about giving Sony credit card info. I'm trying to make a poll. Just answer yes or no. In the end I'd like to get a percentage and base my decision off what the majority thinks. Thanks.

Hiya, I changed my password when I downloaded the newest update when the psn first came back on, but I put in a total random password that I don't use for anything else. Then when I went to download the free games on my psp I couldn't remember the password I put it, so I had to change it because I forgot what that was. I've learned my lesson from not using the same passwords, the password I used on my original psn was for my old hotmail, but even so, I don't want anybody to get in to that.

Yeah, yesterday I was having troubles like everybody else, so I googled it, and found a website telling you that theirs a loop hole that can let you reset your password. The website is http://www.product-reviews.net/2011/06/04/how-to-change-your-psn-password-alternative-fix-for-ps3-users/ and it's tried and tested, I changed both mine and my girlfriends password doing it that way yesterday.

My debit card details have been on the psn since before it went offline and to be honest I've forgotten to even check them since it came back online. I was checking my bank all the way throughout the down time though, no dodgey things went out (or in), so I geuss that's case closed on that matter.

The only thing that's happened since the psn went down, is that my girlfriend has an account on my ps3, just a email and password, no card details. But the other day someone from America tried to access her facebook, I'm not sure if it's related or linked in anyway but I'd still be a little worried I guess.

I know what you mean about storing your debit card details on there, they should of made it that it doesn't save your details on to their shopping site, and instead make you enter it every time, that way the information can be deleted in some way after the transaction has been used. I think I'm going to start buying network cards maybe in the future, but that will probably stop me from wasting money on games, because then it'll seem 'real', unlike if you just enter your card details on to your ps3. I always seemed to buy them on a whim.
2011-06-05 21:00:00

Author:
dbibby88
Posts: 378


I tried to reset again, this time the login screen showed up, but...

If I try to put my information in the spaces and login, it says "store not available in your country";
And if I hit "forgot my password" it shows the same old mainentance screen.

I ask, Sony, when will you give my account back?

Try the steps on this website http://www.product-reviews.net/2011/06/04/how-to-change-your-psn-password-alternative-fix-for-ps3-users/ it worked for changing the passwords on both of my ps3 accounts. Just make sure the Qriocity website it set to your region as it's automatically set to America, this can be by clicking the American flag at the top right and selecting your region.

If it doesnt work first time, just keep trying like you do on your psn shop. It will send an email to your address once its gone through, good luck!
2011-06-05 21:04:00

Author:
dbibby88
Posts: 378


Try the steps on this website http://www.product-reviews.net/2011/06/04/how-to-change-your-psn-password-alternative-fix-for-ps3-users/ it worked for changing the passwords on both of my ps3 accounts. Just make sure the Qriocity website it set to your region as it's automatically set to America, this can be by clicking the American flag at the top right and selecting your region.

If it doesnt work first time, just keep trying like you do on your psn shop. It will send an email to your address once its gone through, good luck!
Not available in my region.
Big news...
2011-06-05 21:09:00

Author:
gdn001
Posts: 5891


Really? Are they behind in fixing the things for the Brazillian version of the psn store? Maybe try in a few more days. It worked for me yesterday and I was still recieving the 'under maintanance' from the actual playstation website. This some how let me bypass it and let me change my password for my accounts.2011-06-05 21:12:00

Author:
dbibby88
Posts: 378


Really? Are they behind in fixing the things for the Brazillian version of the psn store? Maybe try in a few more days. It worked for me yesterday and I was still recieving the 'under maintanance' from the actual playstation website. This some how let me bypass it and let me change my password for my accounts.
Problem is, the brazilian Store and PSN website never existed. I don't even know why they went throught the trouble of adding a "Brazil" option when creating a PSN account.

How hard would it be to hack int the PSN servers and recover my account? It's tempting...
2011-06-05 21:20:00

Author:
gdn001
Posts: 5891


Problem is, the brazilian Store and PSN website never existed. I don't even know why they went throught the trouble of adding a "Brazil" option when creating a PSN account.

How hard would it be to hack int the PSN servers and recover my account? It's tempting...

Haha going off Sonys latest track record it probably wouldn't be to hard You might have a lot of people moaning at you though when everyone can't sign in to their psn accounts haha.

It's taken a few weeks for everything to come back online for Europre so I guess you'll just have to wait a little longer
2011-06-05 21:54:00

Author:
dbibby88
Posts: 378


I may have spotted a huge problem for some people that have just received the 30 trial of ps plus. It may not be but if anyone out there can check something for me together we can save quite a few headaches. If your a person who has just signed for the 30 plus trial and has had credit card info entered in the past then I need you. Go to account management then service list(just like you may have done when downloading your welcome back games). Look and see if you have the ps plus logo and details in the list. There should be two one you'll ignore but one I need you to check something. So click on it and see if i says automatic renewal. I know when you sign up the normal way you will see this option, not sure if you guys have it since it's just a trial. For someone who signs up the normal way the auto renewal will be set to on automatically. Above it you'd see you start and expiration date. What I'm wondering is if everyone who got the 30 day trial has it set to on or the option may not be there at all. If anyone can understand what in saying and check it out that'd be wonderful. I couldn't imagine how many angry Sony would have if at the end of the thirty days ps plus just starts charging peoples accounts because they failed to tell people about switching off automatic renewal.

Anyway thanks for the help and I'm sure if you find this to be true many people would be grateful. I only say this because the first time ps plus was supposed to expired for me I checked my bank account and saw sony took out 18 dollars. I was so mad because they do not make this clear. I would assume that after everything that happened they would fix this but who knows till we check. Remember you must be part of the people who just signed up for the free month of plus.
2011-06-05 22:01:00

Author:
METALPUNKS
Posts: 306


I may have spotted a huge problem for some people that have just received the 30 trial of ps plus. It may not be but if anyone out there can check something for me together we can save quite a few headaches. If your a person who has just signed for the 30 plus trial and has had credit card info entered in the past then I need you. Go to account management then service list(just like you may have done when downloading your welcome back games). Look and see if you have the ps plus logo and details in the list. There should be two one you'll ignore but one I need you to check something. So click on it and see if i says automatic renewal. I know when you sign up the normal way you will see this option, not sure if you guys have it since it's just a trial. For someone who signs up the normal way the auto renewal will be set to on automatically. Above it you'd see you start and expiration date. What I'm wondering is if everyone who got the 30 day trial has it set to on or the option may not be there at all. If anyone can understand what in saying and check it out that'd be wonderful. I couldn't imagine how many angry Sony would have if at the end of the thirty days ps plus just starts charging peoples accounts because they failed to tell people about switching off automatic renewal.


The initial activation thing for the 30 days says says no auto renew.
2011-06-05 22:24:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


The initial activation thing for the 30 days says says no auto renew.

Great thanks. I figured but thought it'd be safe to check just incase.
2011-06-05 23:36:00

Author:
METALPUNKS
Posts: 306


I just heard that YLOD victims won't be able to reset their passwords. Is that true or just a rumour?2011-06-06 22:30:00

Author:
gdn001
Posts: 5891


I just heard that YLOD victims won't be able to reset their passwords. Is that true or just a rumour?

Friend had YLOD in early March got a new PS3 a few days before the network came back managed to reset the password.
2011-06-06 22:46:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


Friend had YLOD in early March got a new PS3 a few days before the network came back managed to reset the password.
Well, at least it's not over... :/

How can I contact Sony?
2011-06-06 22:55:00

Author:
gdn001
Posts: 5891


Friend had YLOD in early March got a new PS3 a few days before the network came back managed to reset the password.

Wow I know I am gonna get a lot of crap for this but what does YLOD mean. I'm a huge gamer and either never new what it meant or just forgot. I just found out what GOTY meant recently. Please don't smash me for not knowing. Actually go ahead I'd probably pick on me lol. I'm having total memory loss.
2011-06-06 22:55:00

Author:
METALPUNKS
Posts: 306


Wow I know I am gonna get a lot of crap for this but what does YLOD mean.

Yellow Light Of Death.
2011-06-06 23:01:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


Yellow Light Of Death.

Thanks, now I'm glad I did not know what that meant. Lol.
2011-06-07 01:13:00

Author:
METALPUNKS
Posts: 306


Have you recently just got the yellow light of death gdn001? I couldn't find anywhere else you'd mentioned it up untill the top of this page.

When did that happen?
2011-06-07 01:17:00

Author:
dbibby88
Posts: 378


Does anyone have that link for Asia's Welcome Back program games that was posted who knows where around this thread?
Can't seem to find the link on the first page and its most likely lost by now on this thread.
(Would you mind posting it in my profile, otherwise It'll be lost here again. xD)
2011-06-09 09:21:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707


the guy who hacked sony nintendo and the cia has been arresrsted name ryan clearly and maybe leader of lulzsec2011-06-22 21:15:00

Author:
danger sackboy
Posts: 177


the guy who hacked sony nintendo and the cia has been arresrsted name ryan clearly and maybe leader of lulzsec

It's more likely he has nothing to do with LulzSec honestly.
2011-06-22 22:47:00

Author:
Testudini
Posts: 3262


The Welcome Back pack was Sony's gift to LBP Central users.2011-06-22 22:53:00

Author:
Roneranger
Posts: 415


the guy who hacked sony nintendo and the cia has been arresrsted name ryan clearly and maybe leader of lulzsec


Cleary is accused of instigating distributed denial of service attacks on the Serious Organised Crime Agency, the International Federation of the Phonographic Industry and the British Phonographic Industry.

He's also charged with conspiring with other unknown people on or before 20th June to ?conduct unauthorised modification of computers by constructing and distributing a computer program to form a network of computers (a Botnet).?

Finally, he's been charged with making, adapting, suppling or offering to supply the aforementioned Botnet for use in a DDoS attack.

There's no mention of any game-related incidents in the rap sheet.
http://content.met.police.uk/News/Man-charged-with-hacking-offences/1260269119954/1257246745756 via http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-06-22-cleary-charged-with-hacking-offences
2011-06-22 23:12:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


Don't believe everything you read. Newspapers have an agenda.

Remember that the PSN hack was blamed on Anonymous - remember that they had "proof" because there was a text file was left that that said "We Are Legion" - so, true to proper journalism practice the world over - Anonymous were blamed for the PSN attack.

Then there were those guys in Spain that were also blamed (part of a completely different hacker syndicate - again - more involved with attacking government agencies)

Ryan Cleary was ousted by Anonymous for conducting a DoS attack on them. If ever there was a person who was NOT a member of that community - then it is Ryan Cleary.

Lulzsec have also denied he is a part of their "group" and have only admitted a mild association with him - in that he hosted a chatroom - that is all.

The real reason he has been named?
Because the hackers of Anonymous and Lulzsec are notoriously difficult to identify - so the police just went with the only name that had been publicly released - which was released BY anonymous as an act of revenge.

This is more to do with governments cracking down on "subversive" hacktivist activity than anything else.
They will use this story to whip up public furor - and then pass a raft of restricting new internet laws designed to crack down on all of our personal freedoms.

And who says the media isn't manipulative?

Notice how his Police charge sheet doesn't contain the word "Sony"?
That's because police - unlike the media - can only act when there is "proof".

Do an internet search right now for "Ryan Cleary Sony" and he is named on many news websites as "The Sony Hacker" - do these newspapers know something that the police don't? (or are they deliberately mis-reporting as usual?)
2011-06-28 09:48:00

Author:
Macnme
Posts: 1970


So, does anyone know when the PSHome Welcome Back package for the EU comes out?2011-06-28 10:38:00

Author:
craigmond
Posts: 2426


The Japanese store is returning on the 6th of July.


From July 06 to customers in Japan, you can enjoy all the features of the service Qriocity ? and PlayStation ? Network, including the following features.

All functions of the PlayStation ? Store
Features such as the purchase of items from within the game
Product code number and "PlayStation Network" card available for Tickets
Premium video service network-enabled products for Sony "Video On Demand powered by Qriocity (" Curiosity "video on demand)" function in all
Feature on Media Go

http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=ja&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sony.co.jp%2FSonyInfo%2FNews%2F Press%2F201107%2F11-0704%2Findex.html&act=url

As a reminder here's the fantastic selection of games available on their welcome back offer like other regions you can take 2 from each system.


PlayStation 3:

The Last Guy
LocoRoco Cocoreccho!
echochrome
WipEout HD
Hustler King

PSP:

Yuhshanokuseninamaikida Or 2
Everybody?s Stress Buster
PATAPON 2
LittleBigPlanet Portable
LocoRoco: Midnight Carnival
2011-07-04 10:45:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


I just heard that YLOD victims won't be able to reset their passwords. Is that true or just a rumour?

To reset from PS3 you need to download something from account to that PS3, if you didn't you need to use email
2011-07-04 15:33:00

Author:
Shadowriver
Posts: 3991


Japan is back online get your free stuff if you can.2011-07-06 07:16:00

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Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


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