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You're a horrible person, mate. A horrible, horrible person.

EDIT: I want to add clarification to an unrelated issue. An anonymous person asked me if the vigilante gets his/her kill if he/she sends me a PM the same night that the mafia or assassin kills him/her. My response:

Oh yay, sounds like our Vigilante is acting up again

It's still a little early, mate. Wait until I can find some conclusive evidence, please ):

2013-08-08 06:30:00

Author:
Burnvictim42

Posts: 3322

Oh yay, sounds like our Vigilante is acting up again

It's still a little early, mate. Wait until I can find some conclusive evidence, please ):

No worries, that edit wasn't directed at you, but at everyone. I had just recieved the question and needed to answer it, and didn't want to double post.

2013-08-08 06:55:00

Author:
Ryan86me

Posts: 1909

So, people are still enjoying this?

2013-08-08 07:37:00

Author:
TheJollyRajah

Posts: 466

Well if I die quite a few people will be facing the consequences of killing a civilian and the only way to prove my innocence is if I die. Since that appears to be the case i vote for myself. Once I'm revealed as a civilian many of the people that have voted for me will be voted for next and since most think I'm mafia I might as well prove my own innocence even if I have to die to do so.
http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/anticipation.gif
I feel horrible for this, but this won't change my vote. If I did that, so long any credibility I have.

EDIT: Burn, I suppose there won't be no mega post? I was kind of hoping for it myself.

2013-08-08 08:22:00

Author:
FreeAim

Posts: 2462

i vote for myself.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lez4oqETMi1qa6ssuo1_250.gif

Surely this means that Shooter is definitely either a civilian or the Don? I'm going to stick with the belief that he is innocent.

Burn, where's this post about FreeAim? I would be very interested to see it because it could be a deciding factor for who I vote for tomorrow.

2013-08-08 09:39:00

Author:
ARD

Posts: 4291

There are three reasons I can't change my vote:

1) I can't be certain that Shooter won't change his vote for me if I change my vote from him.

2) It would be quite suspicious if I did.

3) I don't want to die.

2013-08-08 09:46:00

Author:
FreeAim

Posts: 2462

I'm afraid I've seen it all before from desperate mafiosos on their last legs. You're sticking out like a sore thumb for me.

Vote Shooter

2013-08-08 10:22:00

Author:
Ali_Star

Posts: 4085

Retracting a vote is a whole lot less suspicious than killing a civilian, mate.

I don't think you're as clever as you think you are.

2013-08-08 11:08:00

Author:
SnipySev

Posts: 2452

Hmm, the back-and-forth arguments have been fun to watch. But I think Shooter's voting for himself was very interesting, his last attempts to defend himself have been pretty solid, and well I already have put some of my trust into CogMonkey who made some good points himself...

I know it might not make much of a difference since the Day's close to over, but my vote goes to FreeAim.

2013-08-08 11:28:00

Author:
Dragonvarsity

Posts: 5208

Retracting a vote is a whole lot less suspicious than killing a civilian, mate.

I don't think you're as clever as you think you are.
To your mind. I don't think you understand that people are not all the same.

I am willing to take the risk that Shooter is a civilian. The other option is to change my vote and if Shooter would then survive, well... It'd be game over for me in the same way as it'd be game over to me anyway.

2013-08-08 11:38:00

Author:
FreeAim

Posts: 2462

To your mind. I don't think you understand that people are not all the same.

I am willing to take the risk that Shooter is a civilian. The other option is to change my vote and if Shooter would then survive, well... It'd be game over for me in the same way as it'd be game over to me anyway.

So basically, you're sticking out now more then a giraffe wearing pink glasses at a polar bear only dance club?

2013-08-08 11:50:00

Author:
butter-kicker

Posts: 1061

So basically, you're sticking out now more then a giraffe wearing pink glasses at a polar bear only dance club?

No pain, no gain.

The only way for me to sort of "prove" that I am not a mafioso is to get this right and while that may not prove it to you all, it could give civilians the advantage they need at the moment which is the most important.

2013-08-08 12:07:00

Author:
FreeAim

Posts: 2462

Oh jeez, going for the "voting for yourself" cliche now?

I'm afraid I've seen it all before from desperate mafiosos on their last legs. You're sticking out like a sore thumb for me.

Vote Shooter

It may be a cliche but its the only way to prove I'm innocent. Also I won't be changing votes.

2013-08-08 12:11:00

Author:
Shooter0898

Posts: 996

It may be a cliche but its the only way to prove I'm innocent. Also I won't be changing votes.

Honorable. Don't take this personally from me. I am just doing the best I can for civilians to win the game. In advance, as you are the only person who knows whether this is required, I'd like to apologize if I got it wrong, but I am still voting for you.

2013-08-08 12:15:00

Author:
FreeAim

Posts: 2462

Honorable. Don't take this personally from me. I am just doing the best I can for civilians to win the game. In advance, as you are the only person who knows whether this is required, I'd like to apologize if I got it wrong, but I am still voting for you.

You are only doing what you think is right. Albeit you are killing a civilian.

2013-08-08 12:17:00

Author:
Shooter0898

Posts: 996

It may be a cliche but its the only way to prove I'm innocent. Also I won't be changing votes.

How does it prove you're innocent? Answer - it doesn't. And it's not honourable at all. It's just a last ditch attempt to get people to change their votes. I've seen it before from people who turned out to be mafia.

2013-08-08 12:25:00

Author:
Ali_Star

Posts: 4085

You are only doing what you think is right. Albeit you are killing a civilian.

Let the discussion commence!

http://files.sharenator.com/lozGr_GIF_Collection_of_someone_eating_popcorn-s360x240-181194-580.gif

2013-08-08 12:26:00

Author:
butter-kicker

Posts: 1061

There is no need to discuss the matter, butter-kicker. Everyone claims to be civilian. Soon we will find out if he lied or was telling the truth.

2013-08-08 12:41:00

Author:
FreeAim

Posts: 2462

There is no need to discuss the matter, butter-kicker. Everyone claims to be civilian. Soon we will find out if he lied or was telling the truth.

Plot twist - everyone is a civilian, Ryan is messing with us!

2013-08-08 12:46:00

Author:
Ali_Star

Posts: 4085

Plot twist - everyone is a civilian, Ryan is messing with us!

Then why are we killing each other.

2013-08-08 12:55:00

Author:
Shooter0898

Posts: 996

Now Ali_Star has appeared on my radar

I'm gonna have to start going back through every post...

2013-08-08 13:03:00

Author:
ARD

Posts: 4291

Then why are we killing each other.

It's all an experiment on human nature. The last man/woman standing will be given a cookie.

Now Ali_Star has appeared on my radar

I'm gonna have to start going back through every post...

Because I said that we're all civvies?

2013-08-08 13:16:00

Author:
Ali_Star

Posts: 4085

Because I said that we're all civvies?

Because you said something at all. It's very suspicious, you know.

2013-08-08 14:01:00

Author:
FreeAim

Posts: 2462

Didn't think the mega posts were so popular. I struggled with It yesterday before giving up, but since the public wants it, I'll make sure to finish it today. To tide you over, here's my current list:

RockSauron: Innocent
Burnvictim42: Innocent
CogMonkey: Innocent
Freeaim: Innocent

butter-kicker: Possible Innocence
Shooter0898: Possible Innocence
Jedi_1993: Possible Innocence
Ali_star: Possible Innocence

Dawnbreaker_23: Suspicious
Dragonvarsity: Suspicious
gdn001: Suspicious
xxMATEOSxx: Suspicious
craigmond: Suspicious

Voting for himself may not prove him civilian, but you have to admit it's a gutsy play, and I respect that. I'm not sure there's really a better person to vote for at the moment, i'll look over my notes today, but shooter will have one less vote from me. Braaaains.

2013-08-08 15:55:00

Author:
Burnvictim42

Posts: 3322

I forget who I'm voting for, but if its not dawn I'm voting for dawn

2013-08-08 16:02:00

Author:
RockSauron

Posts: 10882

Shooter0898: innocent

Fixed

2013-08-08 16:13:00

Author:
Shooter0898

Posts: 996

give me a reason. Braaaains.

2013-08-08 16:14:00

Author:
Burnvictim42

Posts: 3322

I fixed your post.

2013-08-08 16:20:00

Author:
Shooter0898

Posts: 996

Because I said that we're all civvies?

I just thought it was odd the way you suddenly appeared and voted for Shooter at that point, after even Shooter voted for Shooter. I understand why voting for yourself could easily be a mafia technique to try to appear innocent but I don't think that's the case this time, I don't think Shooter ever thought that he could save himself now. I'm not accusing you, I just think it's interesting that way that you, like FreeAim, are acting as if there is way more evidence against Shooter than there actually is.

Burn's list is also quite interesting...hmm.

2013-08-08 16:38:00

Author:
ARD

Posts: 4291

So many posts that I don't have the time to read indepthly (is that even a word?)

Anyway, Shooter's last ditch attempt is what caught most of my attention. We aren't too far into the game, which means that a few civilian casualties are expected. But suicide threat seems like a desperate attempt to get the mob off him. Which makes him mafia in my eyes (possibly the Don, would work even better that way). I believe most civilians (the ones that don't freak out after first night at least) would simply take one for the team if he/she has no hope, but not without leaving his two cents as legacy for the other ones. Right now, Shooter's two cents are "I vote for myself, for I am a civilian!". I call bluff on that.

Of course, he could probably be the civilian that freaks out. There's always a bunch.

2013-08-08 17:17:00

Author:
gdn001

Posts: 5891

2013-08-08 18:17:00

Author:
Ali_Star

Posts: 4085

I can't wait for the megapost. Especially if it revolves around me and my motives. I like getting to know what others think and find suspicious. Gets me bumped for doing investigation myself!

2013-08-08 18:20:00

Author:
FreeAim

Posts: 2462

I can't wait for the megapost. Especially if it revolves around me and my motives. I like getting to know what others think and find suspicious. Gets me bumped for doing investigation myself!
You'll have to wait a few hours for that i'm afraid, in the meantime here's the origin of the megaposts.
I have an excel doc containing all the posts i've deemed relevant, so I don't have to look through 36 pages whenever I want to check someones history. I use a program called snipping tool (standard under Accessories on most Windows operating sytems) to cut out the images (make sure the post number is there!), and then just copypaste them into a tab with the person's name. Then, when I want to investigate the lovely FreeAim, I just have to click on his tab, and I can see all the posts in one convenient place.
http://i.imgur.com/LbnPExr.png
Braaaaains.

2013-08-08 18:35:00

Author:
Burnvictim42

Posts: 3322

You'll have to wait a few hours for that i'm afraid, in the meantime here's the origin of the megaposts.
I have an excel doc containing all the posts i've deemed relevant, so I don't have to look through 36 pages whenever I want to check someones history. I use a program called snipping tool (standard under Accessories on most Windows operating sytems) to cut out the images (make sure the post number is there!), and then just copypaste them into a tab with the person's name. Then, when I want to investigate the lovely FreeAim, I just have to click on his tab, and I can see all the posts in one convenient place.
http://i.imgur.com/LbnPExr.png
Braaaaains.
http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/chandler-bing-friends-joey-tribbiani.gif

2013-08-08 18:43:00

Author:
gdn001

Posts: 5891

You'll have to wait a few hours for that i'm afraid, in the meantime here's the origin of the megaposts.
I have an excel doc containing all the posts i've deemed relevant, so I don't have to look through 36 pages whenever I want to check someones history. I use a program called snipping tool (standard under Accessories on most Windows operating sytems) to cut out the images (make sure the post number is there!), and then just copypaste them into a tab with the person's name. Then, when I want to investigate the lovely FreeAim, I just have to click on his tab, and I can see all the posts in one convenient place.
http://i.imgur.com/LbnPExr.png
Braaaaains.

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/7279/neeerd.gif

2013-08-08 18:58:00

Author:
Ali_Star

Posts: 4085

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/7279/neeerd.gif

:d
WHY ISNT THERE A THANKS BUTTON FOR THIS?!?!
caps.

2013-08-08 19:01:00

Author:
Burnvictim42

Posts: 3322

Exactly what I have been thinking for the past two days, Burnvictim!

2013-08-08 19:06:00

Author:
FreeAim

Posts: 2462

Oh, Burn thinks I'm suspicious? How exciting.

I know you're busy with the FreeAim mega-post, but I would like to know why I'm considered suspicious.

2013-08-08 19:13:00

Author:
Dragonvarsity

Posts: 5208

Oh, Burn thinks I'm suspicious? How exciting.

I know you're busy with the FreeAim mega-post, but I would like to know why I'm considered suspicious.

Well, while I don't think that you're very suspicious, your posts, while few in numbers mostly revolve around voting for people he doesn't find suspicious. I don't think you're anything but a civilian, though.

2013-08-08 19:16:00

Author:
FreeAim

Posts: 2462

Well, while I don't think that you're very suspicious, your posts, while few in numbers mostly revolve around voting for people he doesn't find suspicious. I don't think you're anything but a civilian, though.

I appreciate your faith in me, although I'm not sure at what point people decided my detailed reasoning to vote someone out was simply to align with Burn's beliefs, especially since I voted for the guy on Day 1.

2013-08-08 19:21:00

Author:
Dragonvarsity

Posts: 5208

Also know, that that's only why I think he suspects you. I may be completely off.

2013-08-08 19:40:00

Author:
FreeAim

Posts: 2462

Its more the lurking suggestive nature. I haven't really dug into it yet, and there's probably nothing there, but that's the maaaaaain thing.

2013-08-08 19:52:00

Author:
Burnvictim42

Posts: 3322

Its more the lurking suggestive nature. I haven't really dug into it yet, and there's probably nothing there, but that's the maaaaaain thing.

Well, I have nothing against reasonable accusations like that, and I see what you mean. I guess my lack of frequent posting compared to last game does put a bit of a 'red alert' on me. I dunno, I don't think I really have much to offer at this point with the day almost over though and my vote already decided, but I'll try and come up with some conclusions once we get into Day 4. ^^

2013-08-08 20:00:00

Author:
Dragonvarsity

Posts: 5208

Since the day's ending soon, and I know I won't have time to type this all up, the mega posts will have to waaaaaaait. I think FreeAim is innocent, but will have to show this to you "tomorrow" (provided I survive the night).

2013-08-08 20:22:00

Author:
Burnvictim42

Posts: 3322

2013-08-08 20:34:00

Author:
FreeAim

Posts: 2462

This has been asked before and Ryan hasn't answered. Is there a Don since it isn't listed as a role and others seem to be saying there is one.

2013-08-08 20:48:00

Author:
Shooter0898

Posts: 996

He wasn't willing to tell me if there were extra roles on page 5... or wherever it is, so I think he's keeping a tight leash on them. Given the number of players, and the presence of the Assassin on the mafia side, I would assume there are no additional roles. Braaaains.

2013-08-08 20:50:00

Author:
Burnvictim42

Posts: 3322

Yeah, I didn't see the P.I. either. I think we're just dealing with the assassin, vigilante, doctor and sheriff this time.

2013-08-08 20:55:00

Author:
Dragonvarsity

Posts: 5208

Unless i'm mistaken, it's now night time. Good luck everyone, see you in the morning! (I hope

) Braaaaains.

2013-08-08 22:02:00

Author:
Burnvictim42

Posts: 3322

Yay I'm sort of dead. So I'll be talking in RED soon.

2013-08-08 22:05:00

Author:
Shooter0898

Posts: 996

Unless i'm mistaken, it's now night time. Good luck everyone, see you in the morning! (I hope

) Braaaaains.

http://gifstumblr.com/images/after-watching-a-scary-movie_1140.gif

2013-08-08 22:12:00

Author:
butter-kicker

Posts: 1061

Good night, sleep tight, beware the fright.

If I don't survive... Tell my dogs I love them!

2013-08-08 22:15:00

Author:
FreeAim

Posts: 2462

Good night, sleep tight, beware the fright.

If I don't survive... Tell my dogs I love them!

Burn is in charge of that.

2013-08-08 22:30:00

Author:
Shooter0898

Posts: 996

Burn is in charge of that.
but what if I don't survive, who will tell FreeAaaaaaaim's dogs then?

2013-08-08 22:31:00

Author:
Burnvictim42

Posts: 3322

Rock shall take care of his dogs. He has a private doctor

2013-08-08 22:31:00

Author:
Shooter0898

Posts: 996

The night has been going for 35 minutes, ladies and gentlemen, and I've updated the thread title. Remember - NO GAME RELATED DISCUSSION ALLOWED UNTIL MORNING. The night will end either on 8/9/2013 at 5:00, or when the mafia makes a decision.

2013-08-08 22:37:00

Author:
Ryan86me

Posts: 1909

If we are going irrelevant might as well post this....

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e217/Dragon_Warrior_Zan/awesome-dance.gif

2013-08-08 22:42:00

Author:
butter-kicker

Posts: 1061

If we are going irrelevant might as well post this....

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e217/Dragon_Warrior_Zan/awesome-dance.gif

Oh, we're jumping on that train?

http://24.media.tumblr.com/4d850dd4907aa28c7c0c46864cdafbfa/tumblr_mi3270CYqe1rtqab2o1_500.gif

2013-08-08 22:44:00

Author:
FreeAim

Posts: 2462

Well, lets not get too craaaaazy, the mods don't like that

http://i.imgur.com/pJkyW0S.gif
WHOA, HOW DID THAT GET THERE?

2013-08-08 22:45:00

Author:
Burnvictim42

Posts: 3322

Might as well board this train. CHOO CHOO, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN!

http://www.stupidgifs.com/images/full/864.gif

2013-08-08 22:51:00

Author:
Ryan86me

Posts: 1909

Sorry for the double post, but THE DAY BEGINS.

http://i.imgur.com/PTHyKRZ.jpg
-Shooter0898 - Civilian - Killed by Fellow Citizens
-xxMATEOSxx - Civilian - Killed by Mafia
-gdn001 - Civilian - Killed by Vigilante and Assassin (lulz)

LET THE GAMES BEGIN. Oh, and enjoy my new tear inducing avatar.

2013-08-09 03:03:00

Author:
Ryan86me

Posts: 1909

Man, and I just finished compiling some posts too. Oh well, awesome stuff with the assassin/vigilante. No more kills like that on the table then?

2013-08-09 03:15:00

Author:
xxMATEOSxx

Posts: 1787

I'm extremely disappointed that the Vigilante didn't wait. But I can't say i'm entirely disappointed with the double kill XD braaaains.

2013-08-09 03:22:00

Author:
Burnvictim42

Posts: 3322

Man, and I just finished compiling some posts too. Oh well, awesome stuff with the assassin/vigilante. No more kills like that on the table then?
Indeed. The assassin's and vigilante's kills have both reached the limit.

2013-08-09 03:25:00

Author:
Ryan86me

Posts: 1909

NOOOO GDN WHYYYYY

We should have stayed in our old village. We fled from the ghosts of our past, and now we're ghosts ourselves.

2013-08-09 03:28:00

Author:
SnipySev

Posts: 2452

Three more?!

So that puts us at the final ten, right? ._. I'm glad I was right about Shooter, but I'm still sad to see him die, alongside MATEOS and gdn. Not only does it stink to lose two more civilians, but also since I didn't really have anything to incriminate them for. Needless to say, the less certainty with other players, the trickier it can get. I will say though that, strategically, it's good that both the vigilante and the assassin's powers are now done with, our two main special roles are still intact, and a double kill was performed instead of two separate ones from the Vigilante and the Assassin.

P.S. Ryan, I think your TL;DR derped a little there.

2013-08-09 03:29:00

Author:
Dragonvarsity

Posts: 5208

What do you mean you were right? They were all civilians, mate.

2013-08-09 03:31:00

Author:
Ryan86me

Posts: 1909

I did not know I was so popular.

http://d2tq98mqfjyz2l.cloudfront.net/image_cache/1308421804354815.gif

2013-08-09 03:32:00

Author:
gdn001

Posts: 5891

What do you mean you were right? They were all civilians, mate.

I mentioned that I was glad I was right about Shooter, because my theories led me to believe he was innocent, which he turned out to be.

2013-08-09 03:33:00

Author:
Dragonvarsity

Posts: 5208

I mentioned that I was glad I was right about Shooter, because my theories led me to believe he was innocent, which he turned out to be.
Gotcha

2013-08-09 03:45:00

Author:
Ryan86me

Posts: 1909

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/rudd-sucks.gif

2013-08-09 07:27:00

Author:
FreeAim

Posts: 2462

Wow the mafia is kicking butt. I wish the last's game mafia did this good. Man, now I really want to be mafia again.

2013-08-09 08:03:00

Author:
jarreguin001

Posts: 351

So, more civvies are dead? The one that are alive need to get their stuff together.

2013-08-09 08:31:00

Author:
amoney1999

Posts: 1202

Shooter0898 - Civilian

http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m573cm446k1rtjw1mo1_250.gif

Shooter was obviously a civilian. But not everyone who voted for him can be mafia, so I'm sticking with Burn and FreeAim as my prime suspects, with Ali as a possibility. Not sure about the others. I'm going to start doing some proper investigation because everyone else seems happy to blindly follow the crowd.

Assuming the assassin counts as part of the mafia, and if there are 4 mafia members in total, there can only be 6 of us left now. We need to get rid of a mafioso today.

2013-08-09 09:14:00

Author:
ARD

Posts: 4291

I literally lol'd when you said the vigilante and assassin wiped each other's memories.

You know, a more plausible solution would've been to say that they were wearing a mask.

Ok, I have 2 points to make at this stage:

1) The vigilante has done a fairly lousy job.
2) I most apologise to Shooter. But in my defense, it's like you were taking advice from a book entitled "How to Act Like a Dodgy Mafioso for Dummies" book. All the tropes were there - deflecting suspicions, voting for those who suspect you, voting for yourself. By the end of the day, I was sure you were mafia.

2013-08-09 09:27:00

Author:
Ali_Star

Posts: 4085

I literally lol'd when you said the vigilante and assassin wiped each other's memories.

In the newspaper's first draft, they did it with the MIB doohickeys, but I had to remove it because there wasn't enough space

2013-08-09 09:40:00

Author:
Ryan86me

Posts: 1909

This could have been much worse if the assassin and the vigilante had voted for different civilians, and if the doctor hadn't saved Rock during the last round.

Accusations and defenses have been made, feuds have been established, intentions have been revealed. You're not voting at random any longer. Now's the time to stop sucking at this.

2013-08-09 09:46:00

Author:
SnipySev

Posts: 2452

I most apologise to Shooter. But in my defense, it's like you were taking advice from a book entitled "How to Act Like a Dodgy Mafioso for Dummies" book. All the tropes were there - deflecting suspicions, voting for those who suspect you, voting for yourself. By the end of the day, I was sure you were mafia.

Out of the 3 suspects I mentioned, you're the one I'm most unsure about. With all this experience you keep mentioning, I don't know how you could have been so certain. All Shooter was doing was defending himself, until he realized he couldn't win and sacrificed himself to prove his innocence. If you are such an expert at this game, I honestly don't understand why you would believe Shooter was mafia. It just doesn't make sense.

2013-08-09 09:54:00

Author:
ARD

Posts: 4291

Out of the 3 suspects I mentioned, you're the one I'm most unsure about. With all this experience you keep mentioning, I don't know how you could have been so certain. All Shooter was doing was defending himself, until he realized he couldn't win and sacrificed himself to prove his innocence. If you are such an expert at this game, I honestly don't understand why you would believe Shooter was mafia. It just doesn't make sense.

Those "tropes" I've mentioned - I've seen them all before from mafiosos in other games. That's why I was so convinced. Yes, he was defending himself, but I didn't think he was doing it particularly well, because of those reasons I've noted.

2013-08-09 10:10:00

Author:
Ali_Star

Posts: 4085

I find it funny how the vigilante killed both me and Snipy...

2013-08-09 11:06:00

Author:
gdn001

Posts: 5891

This is particularly sucky for civvies at the moment. I do agree with Ali in terms of Shooter acting like a mafioso, but...

Anyway, now is not the time to start pointing fingers without being absolutely certain! I am still waiting for Burn to make the megapost, partly because I want him to make it certain that I am not a mafioso. I would do it myself, but one, I am not exactly a reliable source and two, there'd be someone who would turn everything I say upside down, so suddenly I am a mafioso.

2013-08-09 11:33:00

Author:
FreeAim

Posts: 2462

Since Burn has apparently given up on his post about FreeAim, here’s mine.

On day 1, FreeAim voted for Burnvictim. In the event that both FreeAim and Burn are mafia, this would give FreeAim something to bring up later on to prove his innocence if Burn was revealed as mafia - “Look guys I voted for him on day 1 so I can’t be mafia!”. Voting so early also gave him chance to change his vote if it started to look like Burn was on the way out. Apart from his vote, he made a lot of non-posts during the first day and night, not discussing voting or anything. Trying to stay “active” without drawing too much attention?

On day 2, he voted straight away for Burn again. Again, this gives him plenty of time to change if he needs to, and even more “proof” if both of them are mafia. Shortly afterwards, once Burn has picked up a few more votes, FreeAim changes his mind to vote for butter-kicker, conveniently the only other person with a vote, and who Burn had already voted for. The votes for Burn keep falling, and Rock deicdes to vote for Dawn. Burn and FreeAim both withdraw their votes for butter-kicker.

FreeAim then votes for Shooter.

After reading the past comments here, the only person I really, really find suspicious is in fact Shooter0898. I'll feel bad for doing this, but then again I'd feel bad if I voted... Well, anyone, so I can only do the best I can to prevail in this game. I vote for Shooter0898 to be evicted.

No harsh feelings, I hope.

He doesn’t even attempt to give a reason other than “I find him suspicious”, and he makes sure everyone knows how sorry he is. After a couple of standard “don’t kill me i’m not mafia” posts from FreeAim, Shooter votes for him, and points out that the only reason people have to suspect him is his vote changing. It’s worth remembering that Shooter was FreeAim’s third vote of the day. FreeAim also mentions that he’s pretty confident that he will survive the night. Interesting.

Sensibly, instead of anyone listening to FreeAim, they decide to vote out an inactive member, which with such a lack of evidence was probably the right thing to do at that point.

On day 3 it is revealed that Rock was saved by the doctor after the mafia tried to kill him. I entertained the possibility that it may have been an evil mafia plot to make Rock look innocent. FreeAim later mentions this himself, also suggesting that Rock may be mafia. Might be worth remembering later on.

FreeAim votes for Dawn and he seems to think he doesn’t need to give a reason. Later, he admits it was just random voting. Now that voting for Shooter has picked up, FreeAim jumps ship and also votes for him, again, without giving a reason. As far as I can tell, the only “evidence” against Shooter is that he changed his mind a lot, but changing votes is becoming quite a habit for FreeAim. Shooter keeps defending himself perfectly reasonably but no one seems to listen.

Then FreeAim tries to argue against Shooter’s defence.

We won't be going to lose another civilian. When we have someone as suspicious as you at our gunpoint, there is little you can do to talk yourself out of it. Evidence on you so far outweighs evidence on anyone else ten to one. If we were to change our votes now, we would all bite the dust before our feet touched the ground.

This was when I first started suspecting FreeAim. “Evidence on you so far outweighs evidence on anyone else ten to one” is total BS and I have already explained why. FreeAim had been relatively quiet up until this point. Active, but quiet. And we all saw how he responded once I voted for him. I’m not going to go back and analyze his arguments again because I already have.

This is when Burn reappears with “evidence” against Shooter, but I’m focusing on FreeAim now so I’ll worry about that later. I would, however, like to point out that it’s quite suspicious that Burn made a post about Shooter first, then conveniently went back on his promise to do one about FreeAim.

FreeAim maintains his vote for Shooter, still without providing any of the evidence he claims is out there, and with enough civilians (I believe) joining the bandwagon, and Shooter choosing to sacrifice himself, the day ends. In the morning, 3 more civilians are dead and Shooter’s blatant innocence is proved.

Before, I was willing to accept the possibility that FreeAim may just be a civilian who was jumping on a bandwagon set up by the mafia. But after going back through the thread and carefully reading and rereading every post, it seems clear to me that FreeAim must be mafia. I’m not going to vote yet though, I want to investigate my other suspects first. I’ve already noticed plenty of interesting stuff during my trip through the thread.

On a side note, after reading gdn’s post:

I find it funny how the vigilante killed both me and Snipy...

I realised that the vigilante’s kills were the last 2 civilians from the last game, which I guess must put me and Dawn at the top of the list of vigilante suspects. I know it’s not me so I’d guess it’s either Dawn, or some noob doing random killings.

2013-08-09 11:39:00

Author:
ARD

Posts: 4291

Do not consider me mafia for simply me not revealing my reasons to vote someone. If you find that I "must be mafia," I'd ask you to do a double-checking on that, because as far as I am concerned, I was not given such a role at the beginning of this game.

Anyway, I have spent quite a big deal of time reading posts earlier. I would want to vote either butter-kicker OR Dawnbreaker at this point. Neither of them has given any trustworthy evidence on their innocence and while butter is active, he gives very little away. Some of his stuff has been related to trying to find out who the vigilant is. Dawnbreaker, on the other hand says very, very little that has any relation to anything. As Shooter stated: "She hasn't been active, but she has been active enough to look odd." Also, others have been finding her suspicious for several different reasons and since I don't know any better, she's the top of my suspection-list.

Still, both of them appear to have something to hide. If I get nothing reliable on the subject, I'll vote for Dawn, as she is most suspicious at the moment, but as for now, I'll stick with trying to survive.

2013-08-09 12:06:00

Author:
FreeAim

Posts: 2462

Do not consider me mafia for simply me not revealing my reasons to vote someone.

I don't think you are mafia just because you haven't given reasons. I've explained my reasons. But "not revealing my reasons to vote for someone" is only really acceptable is if you are the sheriff or something. There is absolutely no reason for you not to give reasons for suspecting someone to be mafia...once again you're not making any sense.

2013-08-09 12:18:00

Author:
ARD

Posts: 4291

Excuse me, but I make perfect sense. I explained that me not revealing everything I know/suspect/think I know is not a valid excuse to suspect me. There are reasons for me not to reveal... well, my reasons. Why would I tell you them? You may be mafia yourself. Not that I think you are mafia, but others can read these posts too and these others may be mafia, unlike you or me.

Take the hint, dumbo.

2013-08-09 12:25:00

Author:
FreeAim

Posts: 2462

Take the hint, dumbo.

That's nice. I'm not going to repeat myself again. Every single post you make makes me suspect you more and until you actually attempt to defend yourself or provide evidence against someone else that isn't going to change.

2013-08-09 12:33:00

Author:
ARD

Posts: 4291

Freeaim doesn't realise what he is doing.....

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20050811025858/familyguy/images/e/ed/Petercopter.gif

In short, giving the same repetitive argument is only making us suspect you more. Right now all we know is you might be 1. A Mafia member making yourself too obvious or 2. A civilian not giving variation in their arguments. I would vote for you if my gut feeling didn't say that you're not mafia after what happened with shooter. So for now I abstain my vote.

2013-08-09 12:38:00

Author:
butter-kicker

Posts: 1061

So now you believe I'm innocent

2013-08-09 13:00:00

Author:
Shooter0898

Posts: 996

So now you believe I'm innocent

No I don't!

Where is Rawk these days? He was quite active until it was revealed that the doctor saved him. We could do with some of his words of wisdom.

2013-08-09 14:11:00

Author:
Ali_Star

Posts: 4085

Why am I still labelled suspicious when I made it absolutely crystal clear that I wouldn't be able to participate for the first couple of weeks? It's as if people are choosing to ignore that fact that I have stated that on several occasions, or instead decided that I'm using inactivity as a tactic. If you think I am using it as a tactic, you are far wrong, in the last game I specifically hunted on people who were inactive. For me to use that as a tactic would be silly, and it is silly.

2013-08-09 14:21:00

Author:
craigmond

Posts: 2426

No I don't!

Where is Rawk these days? He was quite active until it was revealed that the doctor saved him. We could do with some of his words of wisdom.

... Rock and Wisdom?

... You don't know me very well, do you?

2013-08-09 14:26:00

Author:
RockSauron

Posts: 10882

2013-08-09 14:31:00

Author:
FreeAim

Posts: 2462

Given that you're from Scotland, if you've travelled any further south than Newcastle, we can expect you to return with a considerable amount of sunburn. :hero:

... Rock and Wisdom?

... You don't know me very well, do you?

You seemed to be fairly wise for the most point in the last game. Not it just seems like you're resting on your laurels because we pretty much know for certain that you're not mafia.

You must have some thoughts?

2013-08-09 14:49:00

Author:
Ali_Star

Posts: 4085

You're obviously enjoying a nice happy holiday with your mafia buddies and your sloths.

Given that you're from Scotland, if you've travelled any further south than Newcastle, we can expect you to return with a considerable amount of sunburn. :hero:

For the record I would like to say this is true. MY LEGS THEY HURT.

2013-08-09 14:53:00

Author:
Shooter0898

Posts: 996

You're obviously enjoying a nice happy holiday with your mafia buddies and your sloths.

Given that you're from Scotland, if you've travelled any further south than Newcastle, we can expect you to return with a considerable amount of sunburn. :hero:

You seemed to be fairly wise for the most point in the last game. Not it just seems like you're resting on your laurels because we pretty much know for certain that you're not mafia.

You must have some thoughts?

I'm not travelling no, but I'm rehearsing for a show (and performing in a show)

But this time around, no sloths. Remember, they turned on me last time

2013-08-09 15:02:00

Author:
craigmond

Posts: 2426

I'm not travelling no, but I'm rehearsing for a show (and performing in a show)

http://31.media.tumblr.com/405697e1652fbfd9a3b965c593569ef3/tumblr_mpjp1001cE1suexuwo1_400.gif

2013-08-09 15:06:00

Author:
FreeAim

Posts: 2462

What kind of show? A zombie-movie-trailer or...?

Anyway, speaking of sloths:

http://31.media.tumblr.com/405697e1652fbfd9a3b965c593569ef3/tumblr_mpjp1001cE1suexuwo1_400.gif

Nah, stage show about Scottish Independence (but lets not derail the thread

)

2013-08-09 15:07:00

Author:
craigmond

Posts: 2426

http://31.media.tumblr.com/405697e1652fbfd9a3b965c593569ef3/tumblr_mpjp1001cE1suexuwo1_400.gif

Excellent gif usage!

2013-08-09 15:34:00

Author:
Ali_Star

Posts: 4085

Okay, I need to get ready for work, and haven't had a lot of time to skim these posts. Here are a few comments of mine though.

1) I haven't given up, my last post was late at night, and this one is early in the morning. It takes a while to write these things, so i'm not about to start them before I go to bed/work

2) While the Vigilante may not have exhibited the most brilliant strategy of execution, what's done is done, and we need as many civilians "revealed" on our side as possible. So I throw down this new gauntlet: step forth Vigilante, give me a reason to believe you're the person who killed SnipySev and GDN001, give me a reason to believe you're not guilty. Braaaains.

2013-08-09 15:37:00

Author:
Burnvictim42

Posts: 3322

Because I am clever. I also am clever enough not to leak my strategy to anyone, even though I doubt nobody would understand it, apart from me.

I am new to this game. I don't know how people react to different things, so that's what I have been trying to find out over the course of the game.

lawl

2013-08-09 15:42:00

Author:
SnipySev

Posts: 2452

2013-08-09 15:45:00

Author:
RockSauron

Posts: 10882

It would actually make sense for the Vigilante to step forth. Although he or she doomed two of our civilian friends and would have to walk the path of shame, numbers are still important in this game, and the mafia would have no special reason to out the vigilante at this point since now they're basically just another standard civilian.

Then again, a mafioso could try using the "I'm the vigilante" claim offer as an attempt to gain our trust. Either way, using your two kill moves on the two winners of last rounds must mean it's either a mafioso from last game (I'm leaning more towards Dawn than Cog) or one of the new players who thought there might have been some weird connection or whatever. But yeah, Dawn also doesn't have much to make me question her, although her inactivity to the game has kind of contributed to that. Nonetheless, I'm thinking she's innocent.

My defense? I am new to this game. I don't know how people react to different things, so that's what I have been trying to find out over the course of the game.

So wait a minute... you're defending yourself by claiming that you're just inexperienced, and yet I recall on Day 3 that inexperience was one of the main reasons you tried taking out Shooter.

Shooter's inexperience is exactly what has led me to believe he is mafia.

The hypocrisy here isn't serving you very well, Freeaim.

Which to me is odd is the huge amount of detail you've put into judging me. Whether it's your style in any case, but I have not seen anyone provide so much detail on why someone is mafia. Most people say one or two things, that go along the lines: "I don't like his face" or "He uses a lot of smileys" and what do you do? Nothing! They are not suspicious at all! Then, you create a large post, detailing why I "must be" mafia, basing it on every single thing I have said that doesn't make any sense. I must ask: Why? Why don't you just do what anyone would, which is giving one or two reasons and then voting for me? You quote half the posts I have made, use every tiny bit of them as evidence and then... Not even vote for me? Why, I feel dismissed.

Are you kidding me? This whole game is about speculations! First you mention that you're sure Shooter is a mafioso, and if he is, Cog's bound to be too, then you back away when Shooter's found out to be innocent, but because Cog puts more evidence forth towards you possibly being a mafioso, that makes him suddenly bad? I understand you want to defend yourself, but cmon, you're telling him to be simple-minded in his accusations where the game is all about looking backwards, and what makes this especially weird is that while you're against Cog's complex methods of deductive reasoning, you're all gung ho for Burnvictim's mega-post to make his decision on you. Not that it's necessarily the first time you've simply went with what he said.

(by Burnvictim42 and as for now, I choose to go with his point of view)

All I'm saying is that it sounds like you're denying Cog's claims against you and yet you eagerly anticipate what Burn has to say, which is kind of odd after you were so sure at first Shooter was bad but then eased back towards the end. I won't try making some controversy over the fact that Burn hasn't posted the suspicions yet, (I know we all live busy lives here) but some of your posts have no doubt been fishy.

I vote for FreeAim.

2013-08-09 16:06:00

Author:
Dragonvarsity

Posts: 5208

Then again, a mafioso could try using the "I'm the vigilante" claim offer as an attempt to gain our trust. Either way, using your two kill moves on the two winners of last rounds must mean it's either a mafioso from last game (I'm leaning more towards Dawn than Cog) or one of the new players who thought there might have been some weird connection or whatever. But yeah, Dawn also doesn't have much to make me question her, although her inactivity to the game has kind of contributed to that. Nonetheless, I'm thinking she's innocent.

I'm not sure. Dawn hasn't contributed to the thread much, apart from the odd comment here and there, so if she is the vigilante, she probably hasn't given much thought towards who she's gonna kill, other than "these guys killed my in the last game, I want revenge

2013-08-09 16:30:00

Author:
Ali_Star

Posts: 4085

I move that Dawn is the Vigilante out for revenge. It can't be CogMonkey since he would have tried to kill me before getting revenge because he's a giant almond.

I also find it odd that the mafia did not go after Burn yet, despite his long and logical arguments. Thus, I vote for Burn.I'd argue that they don't go after me because of my long logical arguments. It clearly didn't help shooter, and gave them an easy platform to let suspicion direct itself.

I'm not sure. Dawn hasn't contributed to the thread much, apart from the odd comment here and there, so if she is the vigilante, she probably hasn't given much thought towards who she's gonna kill, other than "these guys killed my in the last game, I want revenge

"
Well, Dawn? Are you the Vigilante? Give me a reason to believe you.

2013-08-09 16:38:00

Author:
Burnvictim42

Posts: 3322

Hm, yeah, Freeaim is suspicious. I vote for him now

2013-08-09 16:44:00

Author:
RockSauron

Posts: 10882

I think Dawn hasn't commented as much lately because we offended her gophers

2013-08-09 16:45:00

Author:
SnipySev

Posts: 2452

I'm just waiting for the vigilante to get killed so I can question her motives.

Eternal hell awaits you in the afterlife. :kz:

2013-08-09 17:17:00

Author:
gdn001

Posts: 5891

Well, Dawn? Are you the Vigilante? Give me a reason to believe you.

I'm not sure. Dawn hasn't contributed to the thread much, apart from the odd comment here and there, so if she is the vigilante, she probably hasn't given much thought towards who she's gonna kill, other than "these guys killed my in the last game, I want revenge

"

I move that Dawn is the Vigilante out for revenge. It can't be CogMonkey since he would have tried to kill me before getting revenge because he's a giant almond.

I'm not the Vigilante, I'm a regular citizen. Why would I kill our last two winners? That would just be stupid of me. If anything I would have saved my kill(s) for much later, when people are most suspicious.

I think Dawn hasn't commented as much lately because we offended her gophers

Yes, you are so right! *Tosses cookie*

I vote for FreeAim.

Freeaim & Burn strike me as most suspicious atm. For the time being I'll vote for Freeaim, If he is mafia then Burn you're next.

(Sorry for my inactivity, I'll try my best to post more. I'm go through some hard stuff right now. Butter, don't you dare think wrong!)

I'm just waiting for the vigilante to get killed so I can question his motives.

Eternal hell awaits you in the afterlife. :kz:

Fixed. <3

2013-08-09 18:11:00

Author:
DawnBreaker_23

Posts: 568

Okay, if Dawn isn't the Vigilante, then who is? Someone has to step forward and explaaaaaaaain this mess. I'd much rather have another civilian on my side at this point, rather than someone who doesn't want to admit their mistakes.

2013-08-09 18:39:00

Author:
Burnvictim42

Posts: 3322

(Sorry for my inactivity, I'll try my best to post more. I'm go through some hard stuff right now. Butter, don't you dare think wrong!)

http://s2.favim.com/orig/28/patrick-patrik-pink-seastar-spongebob-Favim.com-233303.gif

2013-08-09 19:08:00

Author:
butter-kicker

Posts: 1061

2013-08-09 19:08:00

Author:
jarreguin001

Posts: 351

Your gopher isn't in red.

BanbanBAN

2013-08-09 19:14:00

Author:
butter-kicker

Posts: 1061

(Sorry for my inactivity, I'll try my best to post more. I'm go through some hard stuff right now. Butter, don't you dare think wrong!)

... Can I think wrong? :kz:

2013-08-09 19:24:00

Author:
RockSauron

Posts: 10882

I only want to say this: If you vote me out of this game, there won't be a next person to pick. If you vote for me (which is understandable (to say the least) after the entire deal with Shooter) and if I actually get killed, the game will end for you all. Or, honestly, I don't know how many mafiosos there are. There may be four, there may be three, there may be two. If there are less than four mafiosos, you will get one last chance after this day.

As I strongly believe that I will be voted to die during the next night, no matter what, if the game won't end, I want you to know the people I hold most suspicious at the moment:

1) Dawnbreaker: She has not been very active, but she has been active enough for me to find it more than odd. Also, she seems to be more than mixed when it comes to her allegiances, as she constantly votes different people for different reasons. Some of these people I find suspicious, some of them I find innocent.

2) CogMonkey: While I can't blame him for making me stand out (as I have myself to thank for doing that), he has been the most active to prove my "allegiance to the mafia." While most people offer a few reasons for voting the people they are voting, he has been dedicating several, loooong posts into turning what I have said into looking like I am mafia, which I am not. If he is mafia (which I think he is), then he has been taking advantage of my weird strategy, turning what other people would consider a village idiot into a psycho murderer. This has been working like kryptonite on Superman so far.

If I get anything else before the day is over, I will do the best I can to bring it to your knowledge. As for now, I will do what I think wisest and vote for CogMonkey.

I would also like to apologize for any inconveniences I have caused as well as for any casualties that have died partly because of my misplaying, namely Shooter0898.

EDIT: I just remembered! Doctor, whoever you are, you may save the person who mafia will choose to kill, so if there are four mafiosos, there is still a chance for civilians to win, even if there are four mafiosos out there.

2013-08-09 19:28:00

Author:
FreeAim

Posts: 2462

You should vote for Dawn instead. I'm not sure about CogMonkey, but i'm very sure about Dawn being guilty. /voooooote

2013-08-09 19:34:00

Author:
Burnvictim42

Posts: 3322

2013-08-09 19:40:00

Author:
DawnBreaker_23

Posts: 568

2013-08-09 19:47:00

Author:
Burnvictim42

Posts: 3322

Interesting... It seems to be that Burn & Freeaim are working together. Odds are Freeaim will switch his vote to me because Burn THINKS I'm guilty. Doesn't Freeaim look suspicious to you Burn? Seeing how he wanted to see Shooter, an innocent civilian, die so badly.

Yes, being so highly aggressive towards Shooter was a major mistake on my part. However, whatever Burn has been doing, it's not what I have wanted him to do, which is actually sort of supporting me here. I will say this, though: I will not change my vote for you unless you give me any reason to suspect you over CogMonkey.

While I don't think you're actually throwing me under bus here (as Burn said), you sure do not appear to stop me from accidentally walking under one either.

Even though you suddenly becoming far more active after the assassin using his power (which would make him less important in the grand scheme of things) is convenient, I will hold my vote. You are, however just an inch away from getting ahead of CogMonkey in terms of suspicious.

2013-08-09 19:47:00

Author:
FreeAim

Posts: 2462

No, no. Thank you for confirming my vote, by trying to throw Freeaim under the bus, however. I'm quite sure that you're the Assassin, now I just need to find the Vigilante. Braaains.

Make up your mind, bro. ._.

2013-08-09 19:49:00

Author:
DawnBreaker_23

Posts: 568

Make up your mind, bro. ._.
wuuuut? o.O

2013-08-09 19:52:00

Author:
Burnvictim42

Posts: 3322

It's as if that was meant for me.

http://media.tumblr.com/3eb3f02ea2349c49f3956d9a0ef2e8d5/tumblr_inline_mimub2W4cq1rgr041.gif

That was quite random though.

2013-08-09 19:54:00

Author:
FreeAim

Posts: 2462

2 hours without a post? What happened? Did everyone die... oh wait... braaaains.

2013-08-09 22:38:00

Author:
Burnvictim42

Posts: 3322

2 hours without a post? What happened? Did everyone die... oh wait... braaaains.

Hmm, yeah I don't know what else to offer aside from more off-topic gifs. :F As for the tally, I know me and Rock voted for FreeAim while you voted for Dawn, although I don't think Cog, Dawn or Free have claimed their votes yet.

Oh, and I think Ryan forgot to put the deadline for Day 4.

2013-08-09 22:53:00

Author:
Dragonvarsity

Posts: 5208

Freeaim is voting for Cogmonkey at the moment, but that's still quite a few members who haven't voted. Also, I really want to know who the Vigilante is, why won't they speak up?! It's driving me batty!

2013-08-09 22:55:00

Author:
Burnvictim42

Posts: 3322

Don't mind me just a ghost. HAUNTING BURN UNTIL HE GIVES MEGAPOST!

2013-08-09 23:01:00

Author:
Shooter0898

Posts: 996

Ya, I voted for Freeaim.

2013-08-09 23:03:00

Author:
DawnBreaker_23

Posts: 568

http://www.gurl.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/a-bored-cat-gif.gif

Boooreed.

2013-08-10 02:34:00

Author:
Dragonvarsity

Posts: 5208

If you're boooooored, start some discussion. I can't do it every day.

Unfortunately, the evidence I have against Dawn isn't exactly admissible in court, but I'm sure she's the Assassin.

2013-08-10 04:08:00

Author:
Burnvictim42

Posts: 3322

If you're boooooored, start some discussion. I can't do it every day.

Unfortunately, the evidence I have against Dawn isn't exactly admissible in court, but I'm sure she's the Assassin.

Ya, & I'm sure you're mafia! DOESN'T FEEL SO GOOD DOES IT?!

2013-08-10 04:42:00

Author:
DawnBreaker_23

Posts: 568

Ya, & I'm sure you're mafia! DOESN'T FEEL SO GOOD DOES IT?!

Ironic, actually.

2013-08-10 06:11:00

Author:
CyberSora

Posts: 5551

Ya, & I'm sure you're mafia! DOESN'T FEEL SO GOOD DOES IT?!
It doesn't feel worth anything. I can give my reasoning, but I didn't screenshot the relevant evidence, so it comes down to a "he said/she said" argument.

2013-08-10 06:52:00

Author:
Burnvictim42

Posts: 3322

Well, some of you lot are certainly lying your socks off. I am not, I tell you.

As for the moment, Burnvictim, if you are not lying, I suggest you do that because saying that gets your life to risk. Then again, there is certain someone who might make that a valid strategy. My suspicious list, from most to least:

-Dawnbreaker_23(Very suspicious and if the "evidence" provided by Burn is trustworthy, I will change my vote. Tied with Cog)

-CogMonkey (Quite suspicious, until he explains the exclusive attention he has been showering upon me.)

-butter-kicker (Appears like he's hiding something.)

-Dragonvarsity (Though I have yet to find any valid proof from this point onward, he's like CogMonkey, only milder. Tied with Craig.)

-craigmond (Hugely inactive. Either a strategy or not. Still, uses inactivity as sort of "excuse.")

-Jedi_1993 (Inactive. Has yet to make me find him suspicious apart from that.)

-Burnvictim42 (Though I'm quite sure I know his role, I still can see his strategy as a very intelligent mafioso-plot. Not off the hook yet.)

-Ali_Stair (I hope I got that right) (This is an odd one. He hasn't exactly been active. He has an aura of trust, but he's not off my hook yet.)

-RockSauron (Unless the mafia somehow made the doctor save him, he's obviously a civilian. 99,8% sure he's innocent.)

Myself? I would go to the bottom of that list, because I am the only one whose role I can be 100% certain of. As for my voting, I have been waiting for Dawn to provide something that would make her more suspicious, but it would appear Burn has done that for me. Either that, or then Burn is lying with... Whatever he "subtly" claims, but which I have been guessing for a good while. To that end, I would change my vote to Dawnbreaker, if I could trust Burnvictim as much as I would like to.

I'm certain some of this is invalid, but that's all I've got so far.

2013-08-10 08:27:00

Author:
FreeAim

Posts: 2462

Everyone else has already responded to FreeAim but I probably should too because a lot of it is directed at me

CogMonkey, I have been reading your arguments against me. There literally is nothing for me to say to you that won't make me more suspicious to you, which to me is odd. My defense? I am new to this game. I don't know how people react to different things, so that's what I have been trying to find out over the course of the game. I am not the sort of person who tests the temperature of water by dipping my toe into it. I jump off the high dive. Sure, it may be cold, but it's all on me and I don't have to do that the next time.

As others have pointed out, this is contradictory to your claims of the clever strategies you're using. And isn't really a defense at all...

Which to me is odd is the huge amount of detail you've put into judging me. Whether it's your style in any case, but I have not seen anyone provide so much detail on why someone is mafia. Most people say one or two things, that go along the lines: "I don't like his face" or "He uses a lot of smileys" and what do you do? Nothing! They are not suspicious at all! Then, you create a large post, detailing why I "must be" mafia, basing it on every single thing I have said that doesn't make any sense. I must ask: Why? Why don't you just do what anyone would, which is giving one or two reasons and then voting for me? You quote half the posts I have made, use every tiny bit of them as evidence and then... Not even vote for me? Why, I feel dismissed.

Again, others have reminded you that you don't have a problem with Burnvictim doing exactly the same thing. You were happy to see him do it with Shooter and have encouraged him to do it with you, but when I do it you accuse me of launching some kind of hate campaign. If my arguments don't make any sense then please feel free to explain where I have been mistaken. So far you haven't done anything to disprove my evidence or given any reason for me to believe I'm wrong.

As for why I hadn't voted for you yet, I already explained that I wanted to look more into a couple of other players first before decided who it's best to vote for at this stage. But after seeing that you've only been making yourself more and more suspicious, I vote for FreeAim.

CogMonkey: While I can't blame him for making me stand out (as I have myself to thank for doing that), he has been the most active to prove my "allegiance to the mafia." While most people offer a few reasons for voting the people they are voting, he has been dedicating several, loooong posts into turning what I have said into looking like I am mafia, which I am not. If he is mafia (which I think he is), then he has been taking advantage of my weird strategy, turning what other people would consider a village idiot into a psycho murderer. This has been working like kryptonite on Superman so far.

If I get anything else before the day is over, I will do the best I can to bring it to your knowledge. As for now, I will do what I think wisest and vote for CogMonkey.

I don't think there's much to say to this one, I've already explained the hypocrisy of your dislike of my "loooong posts". And like I said before, if you really have some weird clever strategy then you would have no reason not to share it. And it's clearly not working anyway. You think that voting for me is wisest but still the only reason you have is that I have accused you.

CogMonkey (Quite suspicious, until he explains the exclusive attention he has been showering upon me.)

I'm still waiting for an explanation of why pointing out your suspicious behavior is such a problem. And again, it's not "exclusive attention". Like I keep saying, there are other people I will be making posts about. But it's difficult to get round to anyone else when you are constantly posting about how suspicious I am, still without a shred of evidence.

So I'll repeat that I am voting for FreeAim and I'll start gathering some more evidence.

2013-08-10 10:51:00

Author:
ARD

Posts: 4291

CogMonkey, I did say that I have been testing different things all along the game. I did do that for several purposes. Anyway, when I explained my strategies were "clever," this is exactly what I did. It's contradictory because it was supposed to be.

However, what I claimed at the beginning, that anything I say you turn into arguments against me is correct. Pointing out my suspicious behavior is also alright. The problem is that you've only been doing it to me, unlike Burnvictim42 who has been paying such attention to several people. Still, your post did bring light on that matter. Therefore, I am changing my vote to the person most suspicious at the moment: Dawnbreaker_23.

Oh you want to know why? Well, I have explained earlier why, but I'll say again. She hasn't been very active during the entire game. She has been voting a wide variety of people, even some who are civilians as well as some whose roles are yet to be revealed. Whether the inactivity is a tactic or not, I don't know.

However, she has suddenly become more open after the assassin and vigilante used their powers last night. If she is assassin, this'd make sense, as she would no longer carry such a large amount of responsibility. She may also be vigilante, but I doubt that, because she does have her fair share of experience in this game, while the vigilante's decisions were a bit dodgy to say the least.

There are my reasons for voting Dawnbreaker.

2013-08-10 11:18:00

Author:
FreeAim

Posts: 2462

-Ali_Stair (I hope I got that right) (This is an odd one. He hasn't exactly been active. He has an aura of trust, but he's not off my hook yet.)

Almost right. Remove the underscore and you have my actual name, remove the second 'i' and you have my username. People - just call me Ali. It's fine.

2013-08-10 11:38:00

Author:
Ali_Star

Posts: 4085

Almost right. Remove the underscore and you have my actual name, remove the second 'i' and you have my username. People - just call me Ali. It's fine.

Would it be okay if I just referred to you as Aladdin from here on?

I'm not quite sure what to think at the moment. But as for FreeAim/Cog/Burn - I think at least one of these is mafia. I'm just struggling to figure out which. I still think Dawn is the vigilante, but since the vigilante has been neutered... there's no threat there.
I highly doubt that Dawn is the vigilante, even though both of them sort of appear to have voted people at random. Besides, considering her suspicion on me during the past few days, it's surprising she didn't kill me during the night because I'd be mafia. If she was the assassin, however, she'd have perfect reason for doing this, as she would have known that Shooter is a civilian and since I was the most aggressive towards him, she knew people'd be turning their heads into my direction today.

Or I may be completely off. That is what I think, anyway.

2013-08-10 11:54:00

Author:
FreeAim

Posts: 2462

-Dragonvarsity (Though I have yet to find any valid proof from this point onward, he's like CogMonkey, only milder. Tied with Craig.)

Not sure when I made a major alliance with craig, but okay. (No offence craig.

)

2013-08-10 11:57:00

Author:
Dragonvarsity

Posts: 5208

Would it be okay if I just referred to you as Aladdin from here on?

No.

I highly doubt that Dawn is the vigilante, even though both of them sort of appear to have voted people at random. Besides, considering her suspicion on me during the past few days, it's surprising she didn't kill me during the night because I'd be mafia. If she was the assassin, however, she'd have perfect reason for doing this, as she would have known that Shooter is a civilian and since I was the most aggressive towards him, she knew people'd be turning their heads into my direction today.

Or I may be completely off. That is what I think, anyway.

I understand your point, but maybe she decided against killing you because she thought it'd bring more suspicion towards her?

2013-08-10 12:48:00

Author:
Ali_Star

Posts: 4085

Alright FreeAim, you can stop accusing me of giving you exclusive attention. Here?s a post about your buddy Burnvictim

Burn drew attention to himself straight away by playing up to the ?undead? thing. Which is fair enough, he was dead for the entirety of the previous game. That on it's own isn?t enough to accuse him of being mafia but it certainly seemed a bit weird.

Burn abstains from voting on day 1, which could easily be a tactic to make himself look innocent. Exactly the same as FreeAim, he makes a lot of non-posts at this point. Again, I suspect this is an attempt to ensure he stays active without giving anyone a reason to suspect him. Although I aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalways found his posts a little suspicious. They reminded me of my previous username. Or Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaale?s.

So apaaaaaaaaaaaart from all the braaaaaaaaaains posts, the first day and night are pretty quiet. Early on day 2, Burn votes for butter-kicker. His reasons are pretty flimsy and seem to consist of the fact that butter-kicker randomly voted for Snipy on day 1, and that Snipy was killed by the vigilante at night. Honeslty, Burn?s vote against butter-kicker here is a little confusing. It sounds more like he?s accusing him of being the vigilante, rather than a mafioso. But then it sounds like he thinks I am the vigilante so I?m not sure about this one

It seems that Burn?s strange vote against butter-kicker is noticed by quite a few people and the votes quickly build up against him. He responds to everyone's? votes in his usual jokey zombie manner. He provides a handy list to remind us why he has been voted for:

Reasons i'm mafia:
-Zombie noises. Braaaaaaiiiiins.
-Birthday messages.
-Smilies
-Avoiding some subject
-Experience in previous games
-Overanalysis
-The lack of good TL;DRs

He doesn?t give many decent counterarguments. Just the standard ?I?m always like this, if I was mafia I?d do this instead?. Nothing very convincing. Luckily for him, Rock admits that he vote wasn?t too serious and suggests inactive players should be voted out first.

Once Burn realises that there is no reason for anyone to vote for butter-kicker, he withdraws his vote. Butter-kicker then mentions that Shooter?s comments are a little weird. Interestingly, Burn forgets his accusations against Butter and agrees with him, seeing an opportunity to frame Shooter. I assume he either discussed this with FreeAim, or they had the same idea, because this is when FreeAim votes for Shooter. It seems he has forgotten his suspicions of butter-kicker too.

Once it looks like CyberSora is the new target, Burn suggest that they shouldn?t vote for inactive players. He claims his reasoning is because inactive players are kicked out after 3 days anyway but obviously the mafia need to keep inactive players for as long as possible.

On day 3, Burn posts a list of ?active? and ?inactive? players, and comments very briefly on their voting without ever explaining what we could deduce from this. In the same post he says that ?The more reasoning we post in this thread, the more of a chance we have of catching the actual mafia?, but I can?t see much in the way of reasoning coming from him here. He suggests that ?posts defending themself with reasoning (ie: not just "i'm innocent guys

")? are suspicious when he himself is guilty of exactly this. ?Burnvictim42: CLEARLY not mafia as its me. Also, reasons?.

Later, Burn makes an interesting post regarding Shooter:

I don't feel like pulling the quotes right now (I will if you want me to

) but shooter's voting has been erratic to say the least. He voted for me (innocent, dur

) because of smilies and a joke bandwagon Rock started, he's made quite a few posts like "I feel I should vote for X, but i'm not going to," and has since gone on to accuse lurkers (cybersora, now dawn). I'm trusting my gut on this one, I don't think shooter is as innocent as he'd like us to believe.

From this, Burn?s reasons for suspecting Shooter appear to be erratic voting, not voting for those he finds suspicious, and accusing lurkers. This is a very hypocritical post. Burn is guilty of erratic voting - voting for Butter without much of a reason, then withdrawing his vote. He also previously mentioned that he found Shooter suspicious, but didn?t vote for him. And earlier on day 3 Burn posted a list of lurkers and said ?i'm inclined to think that most of our mafiosos are in the lurking category?. Hypocrisy is always suspicious in this game.

When more people start voting for Shooter, Burn again says, ?I suspect a lot of the lurkers are the mafiosos?, which again, is total hypocrisy as not only did he accuse Shooter for thinking the same thing, but he hasn?t voted for any of these ?lurkers? even though he finds them suspcious - something else he accused Shooter of.

Shooter, of course, asks for some decent reasons for why he is being voted out. Burn claims he doesn?t have time, which may or may not have been true, but at that point it didn?t look like he needed to prove anything because Shooter already had the majority.

This is when I first commented on FreeAim?s odd behaviour and he went all crazy at me. Now that I have pointed out how suspicious FreeAim is being and drawn so much attention to both of us, Burn announces he is going to do a ?mega post? on both Shooter and FreeAim. I don't believe that the decision to start with Shooter had anything to do with random.org.

He quickly reappears with his case against Shooter. I don't see the need to deconstruct this particular post, because we know that Shooter was innocent. The important thing is that Burn claimed he would need to investigate FreeAim before making a final decision, and promised another ?mega post?, that never arrived. Unsurprisingly, though he keeps reassuring us that he is working on this post, in the end all he has to say is ?FreeAim is innocent?, even though as I have discovered through my own digging, there was a lot more evidence against FreeAim than there ever way against Shooter.

Once it becomes clear that Shooter is dead, and has voted for himself, Burn withdraws his vote with more hypocrisy - erratic voting, and not voting for those he finds suspicious.

Burn then posts another list, this time in groups of ?innocent?, ?possible innocence? and ?suspicious?. Again, he gives no reasoning at all. I believe he has included me in his ?innocent? list because he?s realised that I?m onto him and that my suspicions will be confirmed once Shooter is killed. He knows he can?t accuse me now. It's also interesting to note that suddenly Shooter has been downgraded to ?possible innocence?. He knows that Shooter is about to be revealed as a civilian and thinks he will look less suspicious if he changes his mind. And why, when there are 5 people in the ?suspicious? list, did Burn vote for Shooter over any of them? And why, when he withdrew his vote for Shooter, did he not vote for one of them instead? Another display of ?not voting for suspicious people?.

Day 4 begins. Shooter was innocent, and 2 other civilians were killed. Burn has this to say:

I'm extremely disappointed that the Vigilante didn't wait. But I can't say i'm entirely disappointed with the double kill XD braaaains.

Doesn?t seem too bothered about the loss of 3 civilians in one go, and doesn?t mention Shooter at all. No ?oops, guess I was wrong, sorry?, nothing. His second post responds to the claims that he?s given up on the post about FreeAim. ?it takes time to write them?, he says, although he posted his evidence against Shooter almost immediately. He also did make several promises that FreeAim?s post would be coming ?soon?, ?in an hour?, ?later today?...interesting. Still doesn?t acknowledge his mistake.

He also continues to completely ignore the arguments against FreeAim that are coming from everyone else. If Burn has so much of a reason to believe that FreeAim is innocent, why isn?t he taking part in the arguments? All he seems to be worried about is the identity of the vigilante. And he still states that he thinks I?m innocent. A further attempt to get me on his side? Or to give him an excuse to kill me at night?

So, in conclusion, after my second run of careful investigation, I?d say that both Burnvictim and FreeAim are mafia. This is why we haven?t seen Burn?s ?mega post? against FreeAim yet, and I believe that Burn may in fact ?change his mind? about FreeAim now that it looks like he?ll be lynched, and agree that he must be mafia.

Of course, I could be completely wrong, but looking at the evidence I doubt it. Next on my investigation list is Ali_Star.

2013-08-10 13:18:00

Author:
ARD

Posts: 4291

-butter-kicker (Appears like he's hiding something.)

How have I done anything to support this? It appears as if you're trying to throw me and a few under the bus eh?

Well, some of you lot are certainly lying your socks off. I am not, I tell you.

-Dawnbreaker_23(Very suspicious and if the "evidence" provided by Burn is trustworthy, I will change my vote. Tied with Cog)

-CogMonkey (Quite suspicious, until he explains the exclusive attention he has been showering upon me.)

So you target the two people that Burn has had an interaction with as your two most suspicious. Maybe knowing that a lot of attention has been drawn Burn's way? Then you go and say that burn is "not off the hook yet" This could be some sort of tactic that covers up a lot of the interaction with burn you have had. The main one being he sided with you against Shooter and protected you by giving evidence that would somewhat suggest you're innocent. I am not sure but it makes you two look like you're working together (I'll scratch you back and you scratch mine) kind of deal. Which Mafia normally do. I vote for Freeaim and my top 3 suspects are

- Freeaim
- Burn
- Nobody yet.

2013-08-10 13:54:00

Author:
butter-kicker

Posts: 1061

Ok, my wifi here is set up and it seems I have missed a lot of finger pointing. I've looked over the thread and to be honest, I'm not sure who to vote for. I have some suspicions, some of which have been mentioned, but I'm going to wait for the report from Ryan just for clarity of who has what votes.
Why wait? Well if someone is already ahead in the votes and I add to it, I'd just be adding to that rolling bandwagon, I'd rather then use my vote to add my own suspicion to someone with fewer votes even if they won't get enough votes.
Yes it is a gameplan, but why? Well I want to win this thing and we haven't eliminated a single mafioso. I know I'm not the most persuasive person so I figure I'll let my votes do the talking.

2013-08-10 14:24:00

Author:
Jedi_1993

Posts: 1518

Oh dearie this is a lot to process. I think we're at 5 votes for FreeAim (myself, Rock, Dawn, Cog, and butter) and 2 votes for Dawn. (FreeAim, and Burn) with three votes pending. I'll see if I can find something through the thread, although I think I'm going to stick with my vote for today unless some drastic new evidence is found.

2013-08-10 15:37:00

Author:
Dragonvarsity

Posts: 5208

http://i.imgur.com/MOdbG.gif

2013-08-10 16:44:00

Author:
gdn001

Posts: 5891

I'm not quite sure what to think at the moment. But as for FreeAim/Cog/Burn - I think at least one of these is mafia. I'm just struggling to figure out which. I still think Dawn is the vigilante, but since the vigilante has been neutered... there's no threat there.
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110913170639/meme/images/a/aa/My_trap_card.jpg
I've been waiting to see who would jump to Dawn's defense. Thank you for that. Straight from the gopher's mouth here:

I'm not the Vigilante, I'm a regular citizen. Why would I kill our last two winners? That would just be stupid of me. If anything I would have saved my kill(s) for much later, when people are most suspicious.
Here are my observations, and evidence. By fate, "yesterday" evening, I decided to check lbpcentral before I went to bed. Upon checking this thread, I saw that Ryan had posted an edit - someone was curious about kill order. This narrowed the questioner down to either the Vigilante, or the Assassin, as they are the roles with the potential to quickly murder someone, and had been specifically mentioned. The fact that Ryan edited his post indicated that the question had been asked within a short time frame - around 2 hours. So I decided to do some digging around the forums, and came up with 3 suspects (technically 4 as I was doing the digging, but i'm sure i'm innocent

). Dawnbreaker_23, GDN001, and xxMateosxx were the ONLY three players who had visited the forum within the appropriate time frame, everyone else had been 8 hours+. Conveniently enough for me, GDN and Mateos were killed overnight, leaving Dawn the only suspect. I asked around this morning for "who is the Vigilante," and Dawn decided to say no. If she is not the Vigilante, she is the Assassin.

There is no reason Dawn would say no if she was the actual Vigilante. It would be a shameful step forth of course, but we've all made mistakes in this game, and the reasoning fits nicely. The real Vigilante is still lurking somewhere out there, and I WANT them to step forth, and help me with this accusation, but I haven't had any luck with that so far.

Like I said before, this evidence isn't presentable in court. Whether you believe my story comes down to whether you believe me, or you believe Dawn. There is also the lovely counterargument of "aha, YOU'RE the Assassin!" to which I offer this - If I was the Assassin, why would I even bother to make up a story like this? I could just as easily pull some megapost out of my butt re: another player. Dawn is barely on the suspicion meter, as she doesn't post much at all.

Also, also, re: megaposts. I know you've been wanting one on Freeaim, and I know I've been saying "it's coming" for a while. I deeply apologize for the wait, the reasoning delves somewhat into the personal life here. Yesterday, the company I worked at closed down its offices, and we'd been knowing it was coming for a while. In the final weeks, I didn't have a lot to do, so had time to work on posts like these, but the past couple of days I've been busy packing up files, cleaning out desks, and saying goodbye to the people I've enjoyed working with. The mega posts will return, but needless to say I've been a bit draaaained lately

2013-08-10 17:15:00

Author:
Burnvictim42

Posts: 3322

Jesus by the end of this game, you guys will have written an entire Harry Potter book. Your posts are too huge.

2013-08-10 17:20:00

Author:
jarreguin001

Posts: 351

Jesus by the end of this game, you guys will have written an entire Harry Potter book. Your posts are too huge.http://ebooq.com/hpmor/chapter/images/cover.jpgAWESOME fanfic by the way... Petunia marries a professor and Harry grows up a rational scientist instead of under the stairs. /deraaaaaaaail

2013-08-10 17:37:00

Author:
Burnvictim42

Posts: 3322

Rock's been rather quiet lately..

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_md3tg8112e1r3ovdbo1_500.gif

Then again, I might be grasping for straws there since the news points to him being innocent.

2013-08-10 18:36:00

Author:
Dragonvarsity

Posts: 5208

Rock's been rather quiet lately..

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_md3tg8112e1r3ovdbo1_500.gif

Then again, I might be grasping for straws there since the news points to him being innocent.

The reason I'm quiet is because you know I am a civilian, meaning there's no fun in trying to convince you I'm a civilian anymore.

2013-08-10 18:37:00

Author:
RockSauron

Posts: 10882

The reason I'm quiet is because you know I am a civilian, meaning there's no fun in trying to convince you I'm a civilian anymore.

True, not really any invalid lurkers right now.. :V

2013-08-10 18:44:00

Author:
Dragonvarsity

Posts: 5208

The reason I'm quiet is because you know I am a civilian, meaning there's no fun in trying to convince you I'm a civilian anymore.

So basically you only care about yourself, and not figuring out who is mafia?

2013-08-10 19:30:00

Author:
Ali_Star

Posts: 4085

The reason I'm quiet is because you know I am a civilian, meaning there's no fun in trying to convince you I'm a civilian anymore.

At the point you were revealed to be civilian, I thought to myself: "Darn. Poor RockSauron, misses a lot of content of the game:" Though it's a tactical advantage, it mustn't be that much fun in the end.

While I can't begin to claim why the accusations against me would be invalid, as there are people out there who nitpick on anything I say, I want to say that I have no more trust in Burnvictim than any other person here. If someone raises a valid point that I find relevant, I can go with that, whether it's CogMonkey, Burnvictim, RockSauron or Craigmond.

Also, it saddens me that it would appear I will get killed, but what can I say: we civilians have sort of been playing into the mafia's bag in a way. Our choices have been very dodgy all along, vigilante wasn't much help, as far as I know sheriff could do more with his power (though I think I know who he or she is) and we all concentrate on few suspects instead of finding new things to find suspicious in others. I have myself done these things too, so I can't really blame others for doing this to some extent also. If it wasn't for my misplay in Shooter's case, we would still have an edge to this fight.

However, I can shed light on my own sorrow: while it most certainly is not honorable to face a crushing defeat in mafia's hands, if the mafia gets the kill next night the game will be over anyway, so... Well, I for one don't have to stand aside and watch the game go for too long without me. If you plan on nitpicking on this comment, you should consider this part irrelevant in terms of the argument, since it really is.

(Also, I assume there are four mafiosos. I can't be really sure, so if there is three or less, or if the doctor makes the save next night, the game will continue for at least one more day.)

2013-08-10 20:34:00

Author:
FreeAim

Posts: 2462

Holy report time!

F.A.I.L REPORT
The next people up to be killed by Farts, Animals, Inches, or Losers are...

FreeAim (5): Dragonvarsity, RockSauron, Dawnbreaker_23, CogMonkey, butter-kicker
Dawnbreaker_23 (2): Burnvictim42, FreeAim

People who have yet to vote: Ali_star, craigmond, Jedi_1993

The day will end on August 12th at 5:00 PM EST.

2013-08-11 01:25:00

Author:
Ryan86me

Posts: 1909

So basically you only care about yourself, and not figuring out who is mafia?

Um... you are definetly taking this way too seriously >_> All I said was that there isn't any fun anymore now that I don't have to defend myself. And now you're acting all hostile to me? Seriously, WTF is wrong with you? O_o

2013-08-11 01:29:00

Author:
RockSauron

Posts: 10882

2013-08-11 01:56:00

Author:
jarreguin001

Posts: 351

I read that as Ali Star. lol.

You forgot to type in red! Jk, not a big deal.

2013-08-11 02:03:00

Author:
amoney1999

Posts: 1202

Holy report time!

F.A.I.L REPORT
The next people up to be killed by Farts, Animals, Inches, or Losers are...

FreeAim (5): Dragonvarsity, RockSauron, Dawnbreaker_23, CogMonkey, butter-kicker
Dawnbreaker_23 (2): Burnvictim42, FreeAim

People who have yet to vote: gdn001, Burnvictim42, CogMonkey, Ali_star, craigmond, Jedi_1993

The day will end on August 10th at 5:00 PM EST.

Ryan, you're drunk, go home. Burn & CogMonkey voted & GDN's dead.

2013-08-11 02:44:00

Author:
DawnBreaker_23

Posts: 568

You forgot to type in red! Jk, not a big deal.

Ooops! Looks like me, the Senior Ghost, has made a mistake! ... Don't worry, I fixed it!

Ryan, you're drunk, go home. Burn & CogMonkey voted & GDN's dead.

Well, it is called The F.A.I.L report!

2013-08-11 03:33:00

Author:
jarreguin001

Posts: 351

Fixed that. I'm not drunk, just tired. Same thing, I suppose.

2013-08-11 03:57:00

Author:
Ryan86me

Posts: 1909

If only people had made more speculative posts live these during the last game, instead of yapping about gopher marriage and male pregnancy drama.

2013-08-11 04:16:00

Author:
SnipySev

Posts: 2452

So... its night time? o.O

2013-08-11 04:18:00

Author:
Burnvictim42

Posts: 3322

Good night, good bye and good game, folks! It was fun playing with you. If this game continues after tonight, then good luck to civilians also!

No hard feelings.

2013-08-11 07:57:00

Author:
FreeAim

Posts: 2462

Good night, good bye and good game, folks! It was fun playing with you. If this game continues after tonight, then good luck also!
Night hasn't come yet. Sorry, my last report had a typo - the night starts on August 12th.

2013-08-11 08:01:00

Author:
Ryan86me

Posts: 1909

Phew, not too late to vote:
Ok, so I'm going to put in a vote for Burn. Whilst I do agree With the majority that FreeAim is probably Mafia, I feel like we have been following Burn's theories. Whilst his mega posts have been a good read, I feel like, sometimes, they are picking at small details. Particularly about login times and Dawn. I personally feel that Dawn is innocent and that Burn is playing us all for fools. If FreeAim is innocent then I feel my suspicions are confirmed.

I'll check in again this afternoon and answer questions about my theories then.

2013-08-11 08:31:00

Author:
Jedi_1993

Posts: 1518

2013-08-11 09:09:00

Author:
Burnvictim42

Posts: 3322

Freeaim, can I just say, from what I've read (I am back now) you've been saying a heck of a lot. You are consistently pointing fingers and giving opinions all players, which may or may not be a bad thing, but to me it looks a bit like: "Look at these guys, take your attention from me" As well as this, some of your suspicions are very unfounded, since when did I make a tie with Dragonvarsity? I haven't been around most of the game and to double up, that tie was only for the last game. Everyone has different roles now and you can't keep the same trust in others until you're sure they are still good. But I won't vote for you, because of lack of evidence, I'll start my bank of suspicious fellows after the next day begins

2013-08-11 10:52:00

Author:
craigmond

Posts: 2426

Um... you are definetly taking this way too seriously >_> All I said was that there isn't any fun anymore now that I don't have to defend myself. And now you're acting all hostile to me? Seriously, WTF is wrong with you? O_o

Wut?

I think there's been a wee misunderstanding here. There's no hostility! All's I'm saying is that you must have some thoughts and opinions on who you think is mafia, and I would like you to share them. I know it's all a bit of fun, but you do want to win don't you?

2013-08-11 11:27:00

Author:
Ali_Star

Posts: 4085

Ok, since I may well be brutally murdered in my sleep tonight I might as well have a quick look into Ali_Star now. I?m not going to analyse every post of his because I don't find him as suspicious as Burn and FreeAim, but I have noticed a couple of dodgy things. I?m going with the assumption that my suspicions about Burn and FreeAim are correct, if it turns out I was wrong about either of them then we?ll all probably be too dead to worry about Ali anyway

Day 2, when Burn had the majority vote:

Wow... a lot of posts to get through.

Honestly, I have no clue who's mafia yet, and I'm not prepared to jump on either of these bandwagons at the moment, but regarding the vigilante I'm siding towards the opinion that this person is inexperienced at the game, and got a bit giddy with their exciting role.

A fair comment, although saying that there are 2 bandwagons when one person has 4 votes and the other has 1 doesn?t seem quite right. Possibly a subtle mafia technique to suggest that butter-kicker is just as suspicious as Burn? Apart from that he just mentions the vigilante which isn?t something we need to worry about as much as the mafia. But no solid evidence here. Could easily be a civilian. Briefly discusses the vigilante further with jar, no mention of mafia.

Later on day 2, after Rock says he just voted for Burn as a joke:

I'm glad someone has come to their senses! It seems to happen in this game. A person is jokingly voted for, then people just jump on the bandwagon! Happened with you briefly in the last game (because you're apparently evil or something), and with craigmond (because of some shoddy photoshop). Both of you were innocent.

?I?m glad someone has comes to their senses!? suggests that Ali thought Burn was innocent all along, and that he didn?t understand why people were voting for him. Again, this may not mean anything, but why wait until someone else says they think Burn is innocent before saying anything about who you think is mafia? If Ali thought Burn was innocent, why didn?t he say something earlier? If he was mafia, he could make himself look suspicious by outright saying ?I think Burn is innocent, don't vote for him!?, but probably wouldn?t want to risk voting for another mafia member so early on. A sensible mafioso would stay quiet until someone else has voiced their opinion about Burn?s innocence, and then jump on that bandwagon, rather than the existing one.

Later, he questions FreeAim?s vote for butter-kicker which, given my suspicion of FreeAim, would suggest that Ali is innocent. Could be a mafia bluff though, especially since both Burn and FreeAim withdrew their votes for butter-kicker not long afterwards.

Now, we know that the mafia want to keep the inactive players in as long as possible to make things easier at the end of the game. At this point in the game, with little evidence to go on, it makes sense for the civilians to vote out inactive players. As an experienced player, Ali knows this.

After Rock votes for CuberSora due to inactivity:

Right, so you vote for Shooter, Shooter says he's voting for Cyber, then you instantly change your vote to Cyber.... any reason other than his inactivity?

Could be genuine civilian confusion but ?any reason other than his inactivity?? suggests that Ali doesn?t think inactivity is a good enough reason to vote Cyber out.

After Rock explains his reasoning:

Hmmmm, when you put it that way it kinda makes sense... in a weird way.

Showing acceptance of the idea but expressing doubt at the same time. He knows that arguing against getting rid of inactive players will look suspicious but he makes it clear he?s still not sure.

On day 3, Ali mentions that Shooter is dodgy but believes he might be the vigilante. There was a question mark over Shooter the previous day but still no real evidence against him, possibly why Ali doesn?t vote. In fact, at this point, Ali hasn?t voted at all yet.

When Shooter mentions that he suspects Dawn:

So yet again you've tried to focus attention onto a rather innactive person. Perhaps knowing that:

a) They probably won't be around too much to defend themselves, and
b) If they do turn out to be innocent, you can come back and say "oh, well they weren't active anyway, so no big loss"

I mean, I don't want you to feel like I'm singling you out in all this, but you're the only one whose behaviour is coming off as slightly odd to me.

Again, seemingly defending an inactive player, and mentioning the fact that Dawn is inactive even though Shooter hadn?t said that. Says that Shooter is ?the only one whose behaviour is coming off as slightly odd?, but still doesn?t vote. And in Ali?s own words:

Starting the bandwagon is a risky move, potentially open to more blame. It's a lot safer to jump on the bandwagon.

Even after voicing his suspicions about Shooter more than once, Ali doesn?t vote for him until much later, once the bandwagon is rolling pretty fast. Maybe because, as he said, it's less suspicious than starting the bandwagon?

In fact, Ali actually waits until Shooter votes for himself, before he votes.

Oh jeez, going for the "voting for yourself" cliche now?

I'm afraid I've seen it all before from desperate mafiosos on their last legs. You're sticking out like a sore thumb for me.

Vote Shooter

Here, Ali brings up his experience with mafia games and paints Shooter?s suicidal vote as a desperate attempt to save himself. And sometimes it does happen, I've seen it myself, but never in a situation like this where Shooter was pretty much already being lynched without much hope of getting out of it. ?You?re sticking out like a sore thumb? sounds just like FreeAim?s apparent certainty that Shooter was mafia. And I find it very difficult to believe that Ali would vote for someone with so little evidence against them, while being so sure of himself. Especially since this is his first vote of the game. Maybe if it was a less experienced player, but Ali is more than happy to talk about all the mafia techniques he?s seen in the past and claim to be an experienced player.

I then mentioned this to Ali:

Have you seen my previous posts? I have called out Shooter several times in the past, his "I'm voting for myself" shtick was what finally did it for me.

At the time, I had not been paying much attention to him, but now I can say that I have seen his previous posts and I can see that he had indeed called Shooter out before. So why didn?t he vote earlier?

On day 4, after Shooter is killed:

I most apologise to Shooter. But in my defense, it's like you were taking advice from a book entitled "How to Act Like a Dodgy Mafioso for Dummies" book. All the tropes were there - deflecting suspicions, voting for those who suspect you, voting for yourself. By the end of the day, I was sure you were mafia.

Unlike my other suspects, Ali actually acknowledges and apologizes for his mistake. But I think it was quite obvious that Shooter was reading ?How to Act Like an Inexperienced Civilian for Dummies? rather than Ali?s book. Ali could be admitting to a genuine mistake, but again, I don't think someone so experienced would have voted the way he did if he was a civilian. Only a mafioso deals in absolutes, right?

I again questioned Ali?s voting:

Those "tropes" I've mentioned - I've seen them all before from mafiosos in other games. That's why I was so convinced. Yes, he was defending himself, but I didn't think he was doing it particularly well, because of those reasons I've noted.

More about his past experience, but not a great argument. I've seen plenty of mafia tropes from Ali, but I?m not saying ?you are definitely 100% mafia? the way he did with Shooter, because that would be ridiculous.

This next quote is courtesy of prime suspect FreeAim:

-Ali_Stair (I hope I got that right) (This is an odd one. He hasn't exactly been active. He has an aura of trust, but he's not off my hook yet.)

This is a very interesting comment, especially if FreeAim turns out to be mafia. Firstly ?he hasn?t exactly been active? just...isn?t true. But apart from that, what really got the alarm bells ringing was the fact that FreeAim got Ali?s username wrong. He didn?t have a problem with anyone else?s names, and FreeAim has responded to Ali enough times in this thread alone to know what his username is. Notice how he knew he might have spelt it wrong, but didn?t bother to check.

Ali makes sure to correct him. And if Ali is happy to say with absolute certainty that someone is mafia just because they use a few mafia tropes...this is quite a common one. Feigning unfamiliarity. By misspelling Ali?s username, and making it so obvious, FreeAim has made it look like he doesn?t really know Ali, like he?s forgotten their previous discussions. If he had simply typed ?Ali_Stair? and not said ?I hope I got that right?, and if Ali hadn?t responded, I could let it slide. But I have seen this so many time from mafiosos in the past that by Ali?s own logic, I can?t ignore it. I even used it myself in the previous game by referring to Dawn as ?he? in order to make it look like I wasn?t as familiar with her as I was. Distancing yourself from fellow mafia is very important in this game, and if FreeAim is revealed as mafia tomorrow, he would have wanted to try to prevent anyone connecting him with the other mafiosos.

You can accuse me of nitpicking and overanalyzing but I think this is quite an important comment. If FreeAim turns out to be a civilian you disregard this whole idea

Ok, I know I said I was only going to look into Ali quickly, but it turns out there was more noteworthy stuff from him than I realised. I?m still not sure about him. If he is mafia, he?s playing a pretty good game. If he?s a civilian, he?s playing a very strange one. If FreeAim turns out to be a civilian I will have to rethink things, but if FreeAim is mafia then I think I?m going to have to put Ali up there with Burn on my suspect list. Unless he can convince me otherwise

Even if FreeAim, Burn and Ali are all mafia, I have no idea who the presumed 4th member might be

2013-08-11 12:12:00

Author:
ARD

Posts: 4291

Wow, Cog! That's an impressive post! Rather than quoting it all and responding to each point, I'll just pick out the key points:

1) Regarding my comment towards Rawk's retracted vote for Burn. At that point people were voting for others based on absolutely nothing, other than random reasons like not liking their face or whatever. Rawk admitted he voted for Burn as a joke and backed out, hence why I said he "came to his senses."

2) Regarding voting for Shooter and taking quite a while to do so. I'm not one to jump the gun and vote for someone just because they've said one thing that stood out. So whilst I gave him the benefit of the doubt at first, he kept coming out saying things that just didn't sit well with me. There's no harm in taking my time to come to a decision rather than saying "Oh Shooter said one odd thing, OMG VOTE SHOOTER! So what if I drew from past experience?

3) FreeAim's misspelling of my name, and my subsequent correcting of him - ok, so now this means we're in cahoots? I mean, don't get me wrong, it's odd that I was singled out in that list, but why wouldn't I want to correct him? If I said something like:

-CogMoney(hope I've got that right) - He writes quite a lot of stuff

Would you not feel the need to correct me?

2013-08-11 12:59:00

Author:
Ali_Star

Posts: 4085

Well, the thing with the misspelling the name was that I was writing the comment on "Advanced," and I only had one other window open, where most of the names were visible (due to people having commented on that page) apart from Ally here. I remembered it was either Alistair of Ali_Star or something like that, so I smashed the names together and hoped for the best. That's where the "being rather inactive" came from as well, since from all the posts I had read only few were written by Ally.

There's really nothing special about the misspelling. If you wonder why I am saying this, it's because if Cog is a civilian, I want to help him by simply sorting out the unnecessary and helping him concentrate on what's important. If he isn't a civilian, none of this will be any help to him anyway, since he already knows who the civilians are.

PS: By the way, do you know why Ryan's post is the "F.A.I.L"-report? Well,it will become clear next morning.

2013-08-11 14:01:00

Author:
FreeAim

Posts: 2462

2013-08-11 14:12:00

Author:
Ali_Star

Posts: 4085

This thread has been awarded the Tumblr award for honorary use of reaction gifs.

2013-08-11 18:54:00

Author:
gdn001

Posts: 5891

This thread has been awarded the Tumblr award for honorary use of reaction gifs.

Ohai. I will soon join you in the afterlife. What is it like?

EDIT: I only now first saw Craig's post. You misunderstood me, I didn't say you had a tie with anyone. I said that you and Dragonvarsity were tied in terms of being suspicious.

2013-08-11 19:13:00

Author:
FreeAim

Posts: 2462

Well, since it seems FreeAim is going to die, here's a mini version of why I think he's innocent: he keeps dropping little tidbits like this.

PS: By the way, do you know why Ryan's post is the "F.A.I.L"-report? Well,it will become clear next morning.
Based on his posts, I have reason to believe he is the sheriff. This may not be the case, and I may be wrong entirely, but he has dropped a lot of these hints and indications, and I notice he stopped trying to accuse me after day 2, the day I went crazy and the sheriff (whomever they may be) would have likely investigated me and found my innocence.

He may have been bluffing, and fooled me, but I wasn't about to say anything publicly otherwise. Telling the mafia "look, here's the sheriff!" is a pretty dumb idea after all

2013-08-11 19:37:00

Author:
Burnvictim42

Posts: 3322

Ohai. I will soon join you in the afterlife. What is it like?
This large countdown on my face is obnoxious.

2013-08-11 19:47:00

Author:
gdn001

Posts: 5891

Ohai. I will soon join you in the afterlife. What is it like?

Red...

2013-08-11 20:43:00

Author:
SnipySev

Posts: 2452

Based on his posts, I have reason to believe he is the sheriff.

While I deeply respect your faith in me, why would a sheriff go on to vote Shooter? That's the big question. I mean, I would've had one night time to double-check on his role.

Hear this: I am most certainly no sheriff, but I am most certainly not a mafioso either.

2013-08-11 20:53:00

Author:
FreeAim

Posts: 2462

While I deeply respect your faith in me, why would a sheriff go on to vote Shooter? That's the big question. I mean, I would've had one night time to double-check on his role.

Hear this: I am most certainly no sheriff, but I am most certainly not a mafioso either.

http://www.mememaker.net/static/images/memes/2163350.jpg

2013-08-12 01:28:00

Author:
jarreguin001

Posts: 351

Ohai. I will soon join you in the afterlife. What is it like?

It SUCKS. Just nothing but red and no fluffy clouds and pearly gates AND GOPHERS EVERYWHERE.

You shall soon learn what you have condemned me too.

2013-08-12 01:45:00

Author:
Shooter0898

Posts: 996

I can't see your meme, Jar-Jar.

Anyway, I shall make peace with my Gods and prepare a sacrificial ritual-table for my judgment. I'll see you guys soon. Also, beware of the dogs, folks. They are small but pack a surprising punch.

In addition, every wall in the house is madly coloured.

2013-08-12 08:28:00

Author:
FreeAim

Posts: 2462

*Cough* So... what about 'em stinking mafia?

2013-08-13 03:13:00

Author:
DawnBreaker_23

Posts: 568

*Cough* So... what about 'em stinking mafia?

I dunno, you tell me.

2013-08-13 04:24:00

Author:
jarreguin001

Posts: 351

It's all gone a bit quiet in here. Has everyone given up already?

2013-08-13 11:23:00

Author:
Ali_Star

Posts: 4085

It's all gone a bit quiet in here. Has everyone given up already?

Well, I sort of have. I'm just waiting for the night and the next day so these nice folks can find out I'm innocent.

2013-08-13 12:45:00

Author:
FreeAim

Posts: 2462

Well, I sort of have. I'm just waiting for the night and the next day so these nice folks can find out I'm innocent.

It would be a shame for you go out with a whimper. Where's Cog, for example? He was fairly active until a couple of days ago. Same with Burn.

2013-08-13 15:48:00

Author:
Ali_Star

Posts: 4085

So... when is it going to be night? This day seems to be dragging on and on.

I went over to FreeAim's house, and he tied himself naked to some kind of pagan altar in preparation for his death. Apparently he's been stuck like this for a couple of days since he's shivering, catatonic and severely dehydrated. And the goat intestines positioned around him in the shape of a pentagram are starting to smell quite badly.

And worst of all, the dude left his oven on. What a disaster.

So yeah, maybe the Dungeon Master should hurry up and make it night already.

2013-08-13 16:32:00

Author:
SnipySev

Posts: 2452

It should be night already. :F

The day will end on August 12th at 5:00 PM EST.

2013-08-13 16:48:00

Author:
Dragonvarsity

Posts: 5208

It would be a shame for you go out with a whimper. Where's Cog, for example? He was fairly active until a couple of days ago. Same with Burn.
See previous post re: work issues. Also, it doesn't seem like i'm going to convince anyone, so why bother posting? Braaaains.

2013-08-13 17:36:00

Author:
Burnvictim42

Posts: 3322

For your guy's sake I hope I'm wrong, but I have the nagging feeling that something important was ignored...but it's night and I'm dead.

2013-08-13 17:44:00

Author:
xxMATEOSxx

Posts: 1787

And worst of all, the dude left his oven on. What a disaster.

There was a freaking pie in the oven! However, due to odd astronomical phenomena that have occurred lately, the day was longer than usual and now it's wasted. I just wanted my killers to kill me with a big smile on their faces! Is it too much to ask? Is it? IS IT TOO MUCH ASK?!?!

Ehh, feed the dogs, okay? And change their water. It should be littered with dust and fur by now.

It should be night already!
http://31.media.tumblr.com/0f06b4bf691312178ed3ad2a8fe83bfd/tumblr_mr80b3aQ5L1sri2wco10_500.gif

2013-08-13 18:12:00

Author:
FreeAim

Posts: 2462

So, before the night slaughtering, who wants to go out and celebrate life?

2013-08-13 18:56:00

Author:
craigmond

Posts: 2426

I would, but I'm a little tied up at the moment. If you want to hang out with me at my place, that'd be sweet.

2013-08-13 20:09:00

Author:
FreeAim

Posts: 2462

So, before the night slaughtering, who wants to go out and celebrate life?

I would love to do that. Unfortunately I'm busy being dead.

2013-08-13 21:25:00

Author:
Shooter0898

Posts: 996

The night begins.

2013-08-13 22:23:00

Author:
Ryan86me

Posts: 1909

It begins?

You don't have all the PMs yet? XD braaaains.

2013-08-13 23:29:00

Author:
Burnvictim42

Posts: 3322

So... should I make a new mafia round when this one is over, or do you guys need a break from all this mafiaing?

2013-08-13 23:43:00

Author:
RockSauron

Posts: 10882

So... should I make a new mafia round when this one is over, or do you guys need a break from all this mafiaing?

I'd be fine with that. My mind went to waste this round, so the chance to play as part of the game would be nice.

2013-08-13 23:54:00

Author:
Ryan86me

Posts: 1909

Sorry about the late declaration of night, life happened. Anyways...
http://i.imgur.com/X6PBzTK.jpg
FreeAim - Civilian - Killed by fellow civilians
Craigmond - Sheriff - Killed by the mafiaAlso, now that we have less than half of the original people...Dawnbreaker_23, RockSauron, butter-kicker, Dragonvarsity, Burnvictim42, CogMonkey, Ali_star, Jedi_1993
THE DAY BEGINS

2013-08-14 00:25:00

Author:
Ryan86me

Posts: 1909

So we lost the sheriff too? Looks like the mafia will win.

2013-08-14 01:08:00

Author:
amoney1999

Posts: 1202

So we lost the sheriff too? Looks like the mafia will win.
It's not over yet, mate.

2013-08-14 01:17:00

Author:
Ryan86me

Posts: 1909

Ok, so, 8 people left. No more than 4 mafia... Which would mean today would be the last day perhaps. Hm :/

Well... Nothing to lose. I vote for Burnvictim, because I feel that he's trying too hard with all his evidence. And I think we're screwed either way.

2013-08-14 01:17:00

Author:
RockSauron

Posts: 10882

2013-08-14 01:19:00

Author:
Burnvictim42

Posts: 3322

Yeah, we'd have to be tied 4 to 4, otherwise the game would be over. It really stinks to see two more civilians gone, I can only hope we get this vote, and hopefully the doctor can put him or herself to good use again. (Because wouldn't they have to? I mean, say we get a mafioso out today and they get a civilian, that's 3 to 3. Rinse and repeat, that's 2 to 2, and then 1 to 1. And when it's 1 to 1, well, obviously that means a tie. So does that mean rock paper scissors? I'm not sure if it would actually work that way, so for simplicity's sake, let's just hope our last special role can come in handy.

I'll add my vote in once I do a bit more analyzing on the other seven. Or six, actually, since we know Rock's innocent.

2013-08-14 01:49:00

Author:
Dragonvarsity

Posts: 5208

It's not over yet, mate.

Well, I know that, but all the civvies vote for other civvies, plus the mafia is killing them too, so I don't see the civvies winning anytime soon.

2013-08-14 02:09:00

Author:
amoney1999

Posts: 1202

I vote for Burn.

2013-08-14 02:39:00

Author:
DawnBreaker_23

Posts: 568

The mafia so far:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klyVOBsWbRY
(GIF was too big)

2013-08-14 02:40:00

Author:
gdn001

Posts: 5891

FreeAim - Civilian - Killed by fellow civilians

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-i2GVWy6dnbE/UMpXAAA85kI/AAAAAAAAD78/h-MhbE-eQgE/s1600/stephen-colbert-told-you-so.gif
I don't know about you guys, but I find this funny.

Oh, right... Ahem... Ooooo-Ooooo-Ooooo! I'm a ghooo-ooo-ooosthhhh!

2013-08-14 05:16:00

Author:
FreeAim

Posts: 2462

ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff...... vote for dawn again. This is gonna be rough if we're gonna win it. Also, out of curiousity, did Craigmond make full use of his role? or did the sheriff get somewhat wasted because he had to miss a few days? =/

It would appear that way. Shame such an important role went to someone who was unable to play for much of the game. It doesn't look like he made any use of his role, the only post of his I can see that involves some proper game discussion is one about FreeAim.... who turned out to be innocent of course.

At the moment my main suspicions are with Burn.... but I'm not as convinced as others seem to be.

2013-08-14 10:28:00

Author:
Ali_Star

Posts: 4085

So FreeAim was innocent and Sheriff Craig is gone.
We can't mess up now.
I'm keeping to my vote from yesterday and saying Burn.

Also, we need to keep the good Doc alive. I have two possible names but won't reveal them. The mafia are, of course, listening (well reading but you get the point).

2013-08-14 11:57:00

Author:
Jedi_1993

Posts: 1518

Finally, this is getting interesting.

FreeAim, I hope you brought some real popcorn into the afterlife. Ethereal popcorn sucks.

2013-08-14 12:23:00

Author:
SnipySev

Posts: 2452

FreeAim, I hope you brought some real popcorn into the afterlife. Ethereal popcorn sucks.
Fffffffff--

Are you telling me we get nothing but ethereal food 'ere? That sucks. I guess the boss here is a vegan and as everyone knows, you can't argue with them. I was hoping to talk to him about the decorative choices, as I am not a big fan of the colour red and evil eyes that stare into your soul, but I suppose this'll have to do.

Also, I am in the yes when it comes to a new game after this one. At least then I could quote Terminator and say: "I'm back." Well, a ghost can dream...

2013-08-14 12:44:00

Author:
FreeAim

Posts: 2462

Also, I am in the yes when it comes to a new game after this one. At least then I could quote Terminator and say: "I'm back." Well, a ghost can dream...[/COLOR]

Shouldn't that be "I'll be back"?

And FYI, the popcorn was awesome under my leadership last time! I'm sure Rawk will vouch for that.

2013-08-14 13:27:00

Author:
Ali_Star

Posts: 4085

The time for that is gone already and "I'm back" is close enough for me. I'm not as picky as those darn vegan bosses who don't want us to enjoy real ham or popcorn up here.

2013-08-14 13:47:00

Author:
FreeAim

Posts: 2462

Just when I was able to get into the game too

Sorry about that guys, but let me make it clear that I said I would be unavailable long before the game, and it is just unfortunate I got such an important role, I would have loved to help out with the mafia hunting, sorry I couldn't

2013-08-14 15:41:00

Author:
craigmond

Posts: 2426

C.A.S.E REPORT

The next people up to be killed by Cactuses (Cacti?), Actualities, Sucker-Punches, or Excitement are...

Burnvictim42 (3): RockSauron, Dawnbreaker_23, Jedi_1993
Dawnbreaker_23 (1): Burnvictim42

People who have yet to vote: butter-kicker, Dragonvarsity, CogMonkey, Ali_star

The night will end on August 16th at 5:00 PM EST, or when everybody votes.

2013-08-14 16:01:00

Author:
Ryan86me

Posts: 1909

I'm also in favor of a new game.

Can I suggest that the subtitle for each new mafia game start with the letters "Re"? Let's make it a tradition. In the spirit of parodying generic, unoriginal subtitles.

LBP Mafia: Revenge
LBP Mafia: Retribution
LBP Mafia: Retaliation
LBP Mafia: Redemption
LBP Mafia: Ressurection
LBP Mafia: Reckoning
LBP Mafia: Redux
LBP Mafia: Requiem
LBP Mafia: Rehashed

2013-08-14 17:16:00

Author:
SnipySev

Posts: 2452

2013-08-14 17:28:00

Author:
gdn001

Posts: 5891

LBP Mafia: Regular Bowel Movements

2013-08-14 17:30:00

Author:
Ali_Star

Posts: 4085

LBPC Mafia: Return of the Gopher

2013-08-14 17:34:00

Author:
SnipySev

Posts: 2452

LBPC Mafia: Repossessed because they failed to pay their bills on time.

In other news, I know i've been acting weirdly, but that's my role in this gaaaaaame

It doesn't make sense for me to be mafia, I've been starting a lot of bandwagons, and then removing my vote when I believe they're innocent. The mafia has clearly kept me alive for that reason, and because i'd be an easy scapegoat on this (possibly) last day.

2013-08-14 18:06:00

Author:
Burnvictim42

Posts: 3322

LBPC Mafia: Return of the Gopher

I second this.

2013-08-14 19:39:00

Author:
Shooter0898

Posts: 996

LBPC Mafia: Rectal Thermometer
LBPC Mafia: Regurgitated Cheese Biscuits
LBPC Mafia: Regarding my previous email - please could you send me the requested documents as I need to get things set up ASAP. Regards, Ali_Star (CEO Contrastbattlesnakesackleships Ltd)

2013-08-14 19:57:00

Author:
Ali_Star

Posts: 4085

I promise in the next one, I won't be stupid.

2013-08-15 01:45:00

Author:
jarreguin001

Posts: 351

2013-08-15 02:14:00

Author:
RockSauron

Posts: 10882

I promise that in the next one, I will win! :kz:

2013-08-15 02:14:00

Author:
gdn001

Posts: 5891

I promise that in the next one, I will win! :kz:

You already won the last one though!

2013-08-15 02:21:00

Author:
jarreguin001

Posts: 351

Actually, I was planning on having the next one to be "LBPC: Peanuts", where you all needed to find out who was almonds or other nasty non-peanuts masquerading as nuts. Same game, but everyone's a nut.

Isn't that nutty?
Actually, yeah, I like that. Nice nutty twist, it is.

2013-08-15 04:45:00

Author:
Ryan86me

Posts: 1909

Actually, I was planning on having the next one to be "LBPC: Peanuts", where you all needed to find out who was almonds or other nasty non-peanuts masquerading as nuts. Same game, but everyone's a nut.

Isn't that nutty?

A peanut isn't a real nut. It's a legume/bean. Therefore the peanut is an IMPOSTER!!!. :hero:

2013-08-15 09:28:00

Author:
Ali_Star

Posts: 4085

LBPC Mafia: Repeat performance.

How the mafia feel like at the moment:

http://i.imgur.com/muLX7.gif

How we, the dead people, feel like:

http://i.imgur.com/8ZYNp.gif

2013-08-15 11:28:00

Author:
FreeAim

Posts: 2462

So... you guys just giving up on this? Are you going to let the Mafia win?

If people are losing interest in the game then maybe it's better to wait a few weeks before we start a third one.

2013-08-15 21:50:00

Author:
SnipySev

Posts: 2452

There will be a grace period for sign ups i'm sure. Short game.

2013-08-15 22:29:00

Author:
Burnvictim42

Posts: 3322

I think the main reasons why activity here is low are:

1) The most active players are either dead or get no response to their comments.
2) Mafia has already sort of won, so people don't want to seem like they're struggling so they just vote for the first person to come to their minds and leave it there.

2013-08-16 05:36:00

Author:
FreeAim

Posts: 2462

I interrupt this awkward silence to direct thee to the Community Chessboard, so that thou shalt contribute one square to thy chessboard: https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=80959-Community-Chessboard-is-BACK!-7&p=1123058#post1123058.

Anyways, going back to this thread, get active, folks! This is arguably the most important day of the entire game - it could very well decide the fate of the town. So, ladies and gentlemen - make some mega-posts, get active, and finish this day with a bang

2013-08-16 06:05:00

Author:
Ryan86me

Posts: 1909

It's a shame the game has died. I guess we're all mafia'd out after 2 straight games?

I want another win for the town, so to speed things up a bit, I'll vote for the only person I suspect at the moment, and that's Burn.

2013-08-16 09:53:00

Author:
Ali_Star

Posts: 4085

Well, it looks like the clock is ticking before the day is over, so I guess I better place my vote. FreeAim being innocent spun things into some crazy directions with both him and Shooter being good despite their giant rivalries with eachother. Nonetheless, one experienced player seemed to be able to pop in and out with voting them both, so hopefully we can live to see another day with this decision. My vote goes for Burn as well.

This final day has been kind of a drag, so I think taking a break between this game and the next would be good. It would be nice though if we finally take out a mafioso so as to avoid a flawless victory on their part. :F

(Also, where's Cog been? I was hoping to see him pop up if this turns out to be our last day for Ryan's Mafia game.)

2013-08-16 16:17:00

Author:
Dragonvarsity

Posts: 5208

True Burn has been the centre of controversy very often, this round and he may be playing us all or fools. In this case I vote for Burn.

2013-08-16 16:21:00

Author:
butter-kicker

Posts: 1061

I can't copy and paste on my Vita, so no formal report for now. Here's a simplified one.

Burnvictim42 has 6 votes.
Dawnbreaker_23 has 1 vote.

The only person who has yet to vote is CogMonkey.

The day will end either when Cog votes, or at 5:00 PM EST today.

2013-08-16 16:36:00

Author:
Ryan86me

Posts: 1909

Might as well maaaaaaake some predictions before the game ends.

I think Dawn and Ali_star are mafia. Jedi probably is as well, and the 4th is either dragonvarsity or butter.
Rock is most likely the Doctor, cog is probably a civilian, and i'm the Vigilante

2013-08-16 17:16:00

Author:
Burnvictim42

Posts: 3322

The day will end either when Cog votes, or at 5:00 PM EST today.

Cog's not playing but I am so I'll vote for Burnvictim and throw in an apology for my inactivity, busy life stuff. Sorry FreeAim if you're not the don. I guess you were just bandwagoning

Actually wait a minute...the mafia must all be voting for Burn. Does that mean he's innocent? Probably not. If he is innocent we're screwed anyway.

2013-08-16 17:46:00

Author:
ARD

Posts: 4291

Sorry FreeAim if you're not the don.

No problem. If I was to be mad to lose in a game, I would've not joined in the first place. You did what you think was right, but it's not like I can blame you for being wrong. I was pretty heavily against Shooter, for example.

2013-08-16 20:06:00

Author:
FreeAim

Posts: 2462

If noone else is going to notice this then I'll just have to return from the great beyond and tell you anyway. And I was having a nice nap too.

Ryan86me

If we use the 86 meaning to refer to "end" or perhaps "kill," then we can conclude that "Ryan's" death at the beginnning of the game to be a setup. The name states, Ryan, kill me. This imposter was making sure that the real Ryan knew to kill him to set off events.

Therefore, we know that the one who died at the beginning is in fact part of a mafioso plot and that the real Ryan to whom the name refers is still at large. Find Ryan and save yourselves!!

Don't listen to any seemingly rational explanations either, such as "Oh, I was born in 1986" or "Wah, I had that name before the game started" as these are just mafioso cover stories.

Now, back to my nap.

2013-08-16 21:48:00

Author:
xxMATEOSxx

Posts: 1787

Wow, I didn't even realize 86 meant kill. I made up "Ryan86me" when I was 8 O_o.

Anyways, there's no need to go to night - THE GAME IS OVER, AND THE MAFIA WINS A...
http://www.millennialmainframer.com/wp-content/uploads/blogger/-dMh2_-fVGss/USuPaWhBn0I/AAAAAAAAYuA/0AlG3-a1Tsw/s1600/flawless-victory.jpg

That's right, ladies and gentlemen. Our 4 mafia men - Dragonvarsity, Ali_star, butter-kicker, and Jedi_1993 got a flawless victory, having beat the civilians without even losing one of their own. Here's our member list, including those who made it out alive in red (for irony's sake):

-CyberSora: Civilian
-amoney1999: Civilian
-jarreguin001: Civilian
-Dawnbreaker_23: Civilian
-RockSauron: Civilian, Doctor
-butter-kicker: Mafia, Assassin
-Dragonvarsity: Mafia
-gdn001: Civilian
-SnipySev: Civilian
-Burnvictim42: Civilian, Vigilante
-CogMonkey: Civilian
-Shooter0898: Civilian
-Ali_star: Mafia
-xxMATEOSxx: Civlian
-craigmond: Civilian, Sheriff
-Jedi_1993: Mafia
-Freeaim: Civilian

Here are the PM's that were sent out to everyone:

You are a civvie, and part of the civilian faction. Your role in the game will be to engage in daytime discussions and vote on who you would like to kill during these discussions. You have no other powers, though (better luck next time!). Good luck killing off those mafia members!
You are a doctor, and part of the civilian faction. Your role in the game will be to engage in daytime discussions and vote on who you would like to kill during these discussions. Additionally, you can PM whose death (whether by assassin or standard mafia vote) you want to prevent every night, potentially saving fellow civilians. Good luck killing off those mafia members, and good luck saving fellow comrades as well!
You are a vigilante, and part of the civilian faction. Your role in the game will be to engage in daytime discussions and vote on who you would like to kill during these discussions. Additionally, you can, two times in the game, PM me the name of a person you want to kill during the night. Good luck!
You are a sheriff, and part of the civilian faction. Your role in the game will be to engage in daytime discussions and vote on who you would like to kill during these discussions. Additionally, you can PM me a request asking what a player’s role is every night in the game. Good luck killing off the mafia, and convincing others of the roles that you discover!

You are a standard Mafioso, and part of the mafia faction. Your role in the game will be to engage in daytime discussions (pretending to be a civilian) and voting through a private chat as to who the mafia will kill at night. You have no other powers, though (better luck next time!). Good luck in your mafia escapades, you dirty mafia scum!

Chat Website: REDACTED
Chat Password: REDACTED
You are an assassin, and part of the mafia faction. Your role in the game will be to engage in daytime discussions (pretending to be a civilian) and voting through a private chat as to who the mafia will kill at night. Additionally, you can, one time in the game, PM me the name of a person you want to kill during the night. Good luck in your mafia escapades, Mr. Assassin!

Chat Website: REDACTED
Chat Password: REDACTED

There you have it, ladies and gentlemen. This concludes LBPC Mafia: Revival. Props to the mafia for pulling such an epic win and to Burn for making an almost perfect prediction of everyone's parts right before his death.

It's been fun...don't come back.

2013-08-16 22:37:00

Author:
Ryan86me

Posts: 1909

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogaV_9cUbQo

Ryan, I think ya goofed there putting my name twice. xP

2013-08-16 22:40:00

Author:
Dragonvarsity

Posts: 5208

Haha, dang. I guess I was barking up the wrong tree entirely with Dawn, ah well. I thought butter's response was a little too cool, and I thought Dragonvarsity was playing things off too easily, but Dawn being online when the Assassin should have sent a PM made me pick one or the other.

Good game all, well played.

2013-08-16 22:45:00

Author:
Burnvictim42

Posts: 3322

Ryan, I think ya goofed there putting my name twice. xP
Hehe, I think me making a fail in reports is tradition now

. Fixed the post to give Jedi the credit he deserves.

2013-08-16 22:47:00

Author:
Ryan86me

Posts: 1909

Wait, why did Burn kill indiscriminately? I demand an answer to him acting totally stupid.

2013-08-16 22:49:00

Author:
RockSauron

Posts: 10882

Burnvictim, why? Why waste the vigilante-ism? Why so early on?

WHYY?!?!

Ahem... Good game, all. I freaking new butter was mafia, but he was always so fast and furious to defend himself in any and every situation he got blamed at. RockSauron as the doctor... Not a surprise. See you in heavens.

2013-08-16 22:52:00

Author:
FreeAim

Posts: 2462

If it makes me saving myself any less selfish, I only saved myself the first few days because I knew I was a civilian and also innocent, and that I would be a target. I saved Burn a few times, before I turned on him. Huh. I am good at this

2013-08-16 22:58:00

Author:
RockSauron

Posts: 10882

Mafiaaa!!.

So were we waiting to start a new game for a couple of weeks? If nobody else wants to host one, I'd be willing to give it a go.

2013-08-16 22:58:00

Author:
xxMATEOSxx

Posts: 1787

The answer is twofold:
Everything I did during the mafia game was to elicit a reaction. As you can see, I had identified most of the players, and knew most of the rants I started ended in killing a civilian (hence, I withdrew my vote before they were killed). I wanted to kill someone straight off the bat to see what people thought, and to put the Mafia on their toes. It drew out Butter, and I believed him initially, but realized later that noone would react that way after being boldly accused, missing my only chance to catch a Mafia member. SnipySev was more or less a random pick. He was the most suspicious to me after day 1, as he was throwing suspicion around left and right, so he got offed early. When Ryan posted Butter's PM publicly, I felt my hand was being forced. I wanted to save my second kill for late in the game, when I knew the identities of Mafia for certain, but I couldn't risk the chance of being offed early. I chose GDN because he fit perfectly into the timeframe scenario I mentioned earlier. It seemed unlikely that Ryan received the PM early, and didn't choose to respond then, but I guess that's what happened.

In general, I was trying to hide my role in plain sight. The mafia wouldn't want to off me, and they saved me for the last day (correct me if i'm wrong

), because of the way I was acting. Ironically, you should have listened to the Mafia - as Ali_star pointed out, no Mafioso would want to start bandwagons, and drawing attention to myself was meant to dispel suspicion, instead of bring it in

Also...
http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/505/362/3f4.gif

2013-08-16 23:01:00

Author:
Burnvictim42

Posts: 3322

Well played fellow Mafioso's.

As for the civilians:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5QGkOGZubQ

<3

2013-08-16 23:09:00

Author:
butter-kicker

Posts: 1061

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