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Sony rolls out Welcome Back Program (was: PlayStation Store Returns)

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Let's keep our fingers crossed & hope if the servers are back up tomorrow, they don't crash with all the people flooding them 2011-05-03 01:12:00

Author:
UberOrbPS
Posts: 290

So the PSN reboot is still on? Is the US gettin ours Tuesday.2011-05-03 01:36:00

Author:
acdramon
Posts: 332

i hear this alot and i also hear that we get ps plus for a month but idk romor2011-05-03 01:57:00

Author:
BonBonBoi
Posts: 246

i hear this alot and i also hear that we get ps plus for a month but idk romor

PS+ thing is real, the tuesday thing was mentioned last wednesday but the most recent official thing is "this week"		2011-05-03 02:05:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728

THIS IS A RUMOR! IT IS NOT OFFICIAL!

Rumor has it that PSN might be back up tommorow (May 3). This is a rumor and has not been finalized.

Don't get your hopes up. A LOT of Xbox fanboys are being ***holes and telling people that the PSN is coming up on specific days, just to crush their hopes when it doesn't.		2011-05-03 02:11:00

Author:
CyberSora
Posts: 5551

i hear this alot and i also hear that we get ps plus for a month but idk romor
No, PS+ was confirmed, and last we heard, PSN is supposed to bee restored a week after last Wednesday's announcement, aka tomorrow.
(Its been posted like 7 times already on the main PSN downtime thread, so I'm fairly certain that's what was said. )		2011-05-03 02:15:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707

Rumors are rumors.

Also, Sony has said numerous times that it would be back up within so and so time limit.

So really you can't trust anything you hear about a time frame for it to be up, not even from Sony.

However I do believe it could be up any time, or it could be over another week or so.		2011-05-03 02:26:00

Author:
Hana_Kami
Posts: 393

In slightly ironic news, I just received my Playstation Rewards shirt for the beta with a thank you card. I had trouble breathing cause i was laughing so hard. I'll even put up a couple of pics of it when i figure out where my camera is. and when my sides stop hurting.2011-05-03 02:42:00

Author:
Memodrix
Posts: 879

It's getting close people. I kinda get the feeling of christmas morning when I was a kid.2011-05-03 03:56:00

Author:
METALPUNKS
Posts: 306

They just got attacked, are they still gonna put it online?2011-05-03 03:59:00

Author:
Silver39
Posts: 1703

I don't want to get my hopes up, but hearing all these rumors is making it hard to wait any longer.

I hope that they come back up soon. I really want it to be back up before my birthday party on Fri. the 13th. XD		2011-05-03 06:15:00

Author:
theonlybub
Posts: 690

I just signed a contract in a bet that PSN would not be up today, May 3rd, like everyone thinks just because Sony said so.

Therefor if PSN is up today I will sell my organs on the black market.		2011-05-03 06:34:00

Author:
Hana_Kami
Posts: 393

Most likely, it will be up tomorrow like they sort of hinted. Today is too fast, even though they lose money everyday PSN is offline2011-05-03 09:30:00

Author:
AwesomeArnold
Posts: 61

http://www.bgr.com/2011/05/02/sony-suffers-another-major-security-breach/


http://www.soe.com/securityupdate/

2007 database so thats slightly less bad.

It was not another security breach but rather part of the same breach. 2007 database should mean all of the cards stored should have expired.		2011-05-03 10:03:00

Author:
thor
Posts: 388

They just got attacked, are they still gonna put it online?

SOE was attacked which is an unrelated system. Shouldn't affect the PSN situation.

Their estimate for restoring PSN was May 3rd, but it's just an estimate - no-one really knows for sure. It'll be back up when it's back up.		2011-05-03 12:31:00

Author:
Aya042
Posts: 2870

As of 0732 am EST 03 may 2011....still under maintenence.2011-05-03 12:34:00

Author:
sascha_winter
Posts: 163

Those security questions will not be used. As an added layer of security, the password can only be reset on the hardware in which it was created, or through a validated email confirmation. If necessary, Customer Service representatives have alternative methods of validating accounts, but the primary means will be through the console on which the account was created.


http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/05/02/playstation-network-security-update/comment-page-1/#comment-549990

Looks like those without their original hardware or access to the email used to create their account have to jump through a few more hoops to get their password reset.		2011-05-03 12:40:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728

SOE was attacked which is an unrelated system. Shouldn't affect the PSN situation.

While the systems were unrelated, I believe the attacks were coordinated within the same time frame, no?		2011-05-03 12:54:00

Author:
schm0
Posts: 1239

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/05/02/playstation-network-security-update/comment-page-1/#comment-549990

Looks like those without their original hardware or access to the email used to create their account have to jump through a few more hoops to get their password reset.

That was already mentioned in the May 1st press release.



While the systems were unrelated, I believe the attacks were coordinated within the same time frame, no?

The timeframe is not clear from the May 2nd press release. I notice they use the word "intrusions" implying there was more than one. Whether they're related in any way is also unclear.		2011-05-03 13:05:00

Author:
Aya042
Posts: 2870

As of 0732 am EST 03 may 2011....still under maintenence.

Relax, the day just started, I would expect it to return 'till about 4:00pm - 6:00pm, more than likely.
IF it is actually to return today, that is.		2011-05-03 13:51:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707

Sony's really riding shotgun now. Any more clarified information about this "second breach?"2011-05-03 14:27:00

Author:
Unknown User

Relax, the day just started, I would expect it to return 'till about 4:00pm - 6:00pm, more than likely.
IF it is actually to return today, that is.

Ya guys think about it. Sometimes out weekly store update doesn't happen until later in the evening. Believe I can't wait, I'm getting excited to be back online but I have to tell myself this my not happen today or maybe even this week. Nobody really knows.		2011-05-03 14:28:00

Author:
METALPUNKS
Posts: 306

It could easily be another 9 hours+ until it comes back.

Lets be patient a little longer, we made it this far without freezing ourselves until May 5th.		2011-05-03 15:07:00

Author:
Tmjtk
Posts: 258

So i just tried to log on like i have been, hey you never know.

This time it took forever to tell me I cant log in. For the past two weeks I would click on log in and it would instantly pop up. This time took about 15 seconds for it to pop up. It keeps happening now. Not sure if that even means anything but it is wierd it started today. Actually it started about an hour ago. Maybe this a sign from the SONY gods.

This kid has it a little worse then we do lol.





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGssD7nbBCA		2011-05-03 15:07:00

Author:
METALPUNKS
Posts: 306

So i just tried to log on like i have been, hey you never know.

This time it took forever to tell me I cant log in. For the past two weeks I would click on log in and it would instantly pop up. This time took about 15 seconds for it to pop up. It keeps happening now. Not sure if that even means anything but it is wierd it started today. Actually it started about an hour ago. Maybe this a sign from the SONY gods.

Maybe they are trying to tell you "U NO GET PSN TILL WE R RDY KTHXBYE"

2011-05-03 15:13:00

Author:
Tmjtk
Posts: 258

Okay so I checked the PSN network website and I found this page regarding the current downtime and it mentions complimentary items for PSN users. Link-http://uk.playstation.com/psn/news/articles/detail/item369506/PlayStation-Network-Restoration-Update/.

So what do you think?		2011-05-03 15:27:00

Author:
craigmond
Posts: 2426

Maybe they are trying to tell you "U NO GET PSN TILL WE R RDY KTHXBYE"




Yes I think thats what they are telling us also. That is what weve been doing but i think it is a good sign that its taking forever. At least something has changed for me rather than nothing. Hey its a little glimmer. I need to play some co op Portal 2, today! If not then i guess its back to Sons of Anarchy on netflix. Which is not a bad option at all.		2011-05-03 15:30:00

Author:
METALPUNKS
Posts: 306

I think it is a good sign that its taking forever. At least something has changed for me rather than nothing. Hey its a little glimmer. I need to play some co op Portal 2, today! If not then i guess its back to Sons of Anarchy on netflix. Which is not a bad option at all.

True, very true.
Let's keep happy thoughts.

Well, my thought's are happy to me anyway, I don't know about anyone else if they saw what I think.

Edit: That video made me Lawl. He could have used the 13 days to clean up a bit though.		2011-05-03 15:40:00

Author:
Tmjtk
Posts: 258

Yeah, they call it the "Welcome Back" pack... EVERY PSN user will get 30 days of PS+ FREE in the pack and other goodies too depending on your region...2011-05-03 17:29:00

Author:
Unknown User

Wasn't it supposed to be back today? And it's not. D:2011-05-03 17:41:00

Author:
Jakest123
Posts: 319

That was already mentioned in the May 1st press release.

I knew the original console/associated email part was the customer services part wasn't.		2011-05-03 17:44:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728

Wasn't it supposed to be back today? And it's not. D:

They didn't say for sure it would be up today. The press release says that some services will be up this week.		2011-05-03 17:47:00

Author:
Spider-Jew
Posts: 1090

Blizzard says Sony will have their network back up and running "Soon"?2011-05-03 17:57:00

Author:
schm0
Posts: 1239

Blizzard says Sony will have their network back up and running "Soon"?

Oh dear. That means it's at least a few more months. 		2011-05-03 18:20:00

Author:
Aya042
Posts: 2870

Watch online capabilities start running today then so many people get on at once the system crashes from overload. I'd say bye bye ps3 and hello different console. At this point as you can tell in bored out of my mine. I have had enough "going outside" lol for a while I'm ready to interact with the world of online gaming. I think we've held I there long enough and it's time to unleash the BEAST!

I can care less about the free stuff, although I'm glad people will get to experience ps plus. I just want the free online up and running.

I know I'm babbling but this is what I do when I am restless. I need my fix.		2011-05-03 18:40:00

Author:
METALPUNKS
Posts: 306

Okay so I checked the PSN network website and I found this page regarding the current downtime and it mentions complimentary items for PSN users. Link-http://uk.playstation.com/psn/news/articles/detail/item369506/PlayStation-Network-Restoration-Update/.

So what do you think?

Free stuff or what ? Awesome !

@METALPUNKS-: Can somebody poke that guy ?
Hopefully it'll make him shut up. 		2011-05-03 18:41:00

Author:
nysudyrgh
Posts: 5482

From Playstation UK Twitter feed... more details on the contents of the stolen data


The personal information of the approximately 24.6 million SOE accounts that was illegally obtained, to the extent it had been provided to SOE, is as follows:

name
address
e-mail address
birthdate
gender
phone number
login name
hashed password.

In addition to the information above, the 10,700 direct debit records from accounts in Austria, Germany, Netherlands and Spain, include:

bank account number
customer name
account name
customer address.		2011-05-03 18:44:00

Author:
Thegide
Posts: 1465

The service may be back up at some time today, or perhaps anytime this week depending on how much time PSN needs to boost the security (I'm sure it's today, not 100% sure though). Still, I can't believe that 24.6 million SOE accounts and 77 million PSN accounts have been hacked.2011-05-03 19:02:00

Author:
JustinArt
Posts: 1314

So, wait. Just to clarify, SOE and PSN are two separate things, right? I don't want a whole new disaster to unfold just as we're at the end of another.2011-05-03 19:04:00

Author:
FlipMeister
Posts: 631

I don't remember that my phone number had been requested 2011-05-03 19:06:00

Author:
OmegaSlayer
Posts: 5112

From Playstation UK Twitter feed... more details on the contents of the stolen data


The personal information of the approximately 24.6 million SOE accounts that was illegally obtained, to the extent it had been provided to SOE, is as follows:

1)name
2)address
3)e-mail address
4)birthdate
5)gender
6)phone number
7)login name
8)hashed password.

My solutions for them problems:

2) Oh no, they know my address.
what are they gonna do ?
Ring my doorbell the whole time ?

3) I always forget checking mah mail.

4) you can see my age here too.

5) Same for the gender.

6) Tch, if they call me, ill just save their phonenumber and troll them.

7) Everyone here knows.

EDIT: Wait a sec. Omegaslayer is right they didn't.		2011-05-03 19:06:00

Author:
nysudyrgh
Posts: 5482

So, wait. Just to clarify, SOE and PSN are two separate things, right? I don't want a whole new disaster to unfold just as we're at the end of another.

Yes they're seperate things. SOE mostly handles the MMO games.		2011-05-03 19:07:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728

Update first post with latest info.

As it's getting a little long now, I took the liberty of putting a "tl;dr version" at the top containing just the points most pertinent to LBPers. I believe the SOE stuff doesn't affect LBP in any way, so I didn't bother including it in the short version.		2011-05-03 19:18:00

Author:
Aya042
Posts: 2870

I think the phone number is some kind of optional information you can give.. but idk i could be wrong

Anyway at least i don't get people pushing me to work on my levels lol.. i've kinda been create slowly/lazy lately. Ever since PSN was down i almost never used my PS3.. I guess i'm gonna try my best to finish my level until the servers are back ..		2011-05-03 19:25:00

Author:
thi766
Posts: 135

I hope the hacker comes to my house so I can punch him in the face...just 'cause...just for the LULZ2011-05-03 19:31:00

Author:
OmegaSlayer
Posts: 5112

...So, just making sure...

Credit/Debit Card information has only been stolen from certain SOE accounts and Sony haven't said whether the same information has been taken from any PSN accounts, right? And only members who live in "Austria, Germany, Netherlands and Spain" are at risk.

So non-SOE members are fine and members of SOE outside the mentioned countries are also un-affected?		2011-05-03 19:45:00

Author:
Leather-Monkey
Posts: 2266

...So, just making sure...

Credit/Debit Card information has only been stolen from certain SOE accounts and Sony haven't said whether the same information has been taken from any PSN accounts, right? And only members who live in "Austria, Germany, Netherlands and Spain" are at risk.

So non-SOE members are fine and members of SOE outside the mentioned countries are also un-affected?

Is UK affected?

Muppets was wrong that it be fixed today (3/5/11).
Hope PSN be back on tomorrow...

And still got these personal IDs? Just hope UK haven't affected :S		2011-05-03 20:12:00

Author:
ShiftyDog
Posts: 293

...So, just making sure...

Credit/Debit Card information has only been stolen from certain SOE accounts and Sony haven't said whether the same information has been taken from any PSN accounts, right? And only members who live in "Austria, Germany, Netherlands and Spain" are at risk.

So non-SOE members are fine and members of SOE outside the mentioned countries are also un-affected?

That's not entirely clear, but yeah, that should be so...yet 12 millions SOE accounts only for 4 Countries seem a big number for me, but those counts even PC accounts so...bah...I'm just rambling to try to confort you 		2011-05-03 20:49:00

Author:
OmegaSlayer
Posts: 5112

I predict even more bad things for Sony now that they are #1 on the most wanted list of the FBH (Federal Bureau of Hackers). 2011-05-03 21:02:00

Author:
Hana_Kami
Posts: 393

Just cut the BS and tell us what day to log on.2011-05-03 21:05:00

Author:
CENTURION24
Posts: 266

I hope the hacker comes to my house so I can punch him in the face...just 'cause...just for the LULZ

I second that		2011-05-03 21:07:00

Author:
METALPUNKS
Posts: 306

@Hana - Everything depends on how quickly FBI will get the hacker...I think that Sony will shill a good amount of money to have his head and display it publically like they did with GeoHot.
@Metal - Once he reaches my house I will leave you only the crumbs 		2011-05-03 21:15:00

Author:
OmegaSlayer
Posts: 5112

@Hana - Everything depends on how quickly FBI will get the hacker...I think that Sony will shill a good amount of money to have his head and display it publically like they did with GeoHot.
@Metal - Once he reaches my house I will leave you only the crumbs

Well I guess my dog is eating some tasty hacker crumbs sprinkled over his dinner.		2011-05-03 21:26:00

Author:
METALPUNKS
Posts: 306

Just cut the BS and tell us what day to log on.

They won't give a specific time until they are absolutly certain they have one there's no point in saying it will be back at X raising peoples expectations then having a sorry it's delayed which will annoy more than the current state of not knowing.		2011-05-03 21:34:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728

Maybe when they catch them they'll allow PSN users to pelt the hacker(s) with eggs, while PS+ users are allowed to use bricks.2011-05-03 21:41:00

Author:
Doopz
Posts: 5592

Maybe when they catch them they'll allow PSN users to pelt the hacker(s) with eggs, while PS+ users are allowed to use bricks.

I needa trade up then.		2011-05-03 21:50:00

Author:
Maxi
Posts: 1176

Finally, a reason to sign up for PS+!2011-05-03 22:11:00

Author:
BlackWolfe
Posts: 299

My ps3 is in a coma. I keep talking to it so it knows I'm here.2011-05-03 22:14:00

Author:
METALPUNKS
Posts: 306

PSN is up in japan but no were else :/2011-05-03 22:38:00

Author:
The_Lil_JoKeR
Posts: 745

That's just a rumor, there is no evidence it is up in Japan and Sony denied it themselves earlier.2011-05-03 22:41:00

Author:
OneEyedBanshee
Posts: 1370

PSN is up in japan but no were else :/

Is this new news or from yesterday. Yesterday's was a confirmed rumor. If it's new then cool.		2011-05-03 22:42:00

Author:
METALPUNKS
Posts: 306

My solutions for them problems:

2) Oh no, they know my address.
what are they gonna do ?
Ring my doorbell the whole time ?

3) I always forget checking mah mail.

4) you can see my age here too.

5) Same for the gender.

6) Tch, if they call me, ill just save their phonenumber and troll them.

7) Everyone here knows.

EDIT: Wait a sec. Omegaslayer is right they didn't.

Wow, you really think hackers would steal information to visit people and prank call them?
You do realize some places, this is enough to make a fake ID, right?
At YOUR name.

Meaning anything they do with it is under you.
Ever heard of Identity theft?
They don't even need credit card information that's just one type of Identity Theft.

For example, there is:
- Business/commercial identity theft (using another's business name to obtain credit)
- Criminal identity theft (posing as another person when apprehended for a crime)
- Financial identity theft (using another's identity to obtain credit, goods and services)
- Identity cloning (using another's information to assume his or her identity in daily life)
- Medical identity theft (using another's identity to obtain medical care or drugs)
- Child identity theft


Identity theft may be used to facilitate or fund other crimes including illegal immigration, terrorism, and espionage. There are cases of identity cloning to attack payment systems, including online credit card processing and medical insurance.

You may laugh at that, but with that info, they could easly make fake IDs at your name, what does that mean?


When a criminal fraudulently identifies himself to police as another individual at the point of arrest, it is sometimes referred to as "Criminal Identity Theft." In some cases criminals have previously obtained state-issued identity documents using credentials stolen from others, or have simply presented fake ID. Provided the subterfuge works, charges may be placed under the victim's name, letting the criminal off the hook. Victims might only learn of such incidents by chance, for example by receiving court summons, discovering their drivers licenses are suspended when stopped for minor traffic violations, or through background checks performed for employment purposes.It can be difficult for the victim of a criminal identity theft to clear their record.

The steps required to clear the victim's incorrect criminal record depend on what jurisdiction the crime occurred in and whether the true identity of the criminal can be determined. The victim might need to locate the original arresting officers and prove their own identity by some reliable means such as fingerprinting or DNA fingerprinting, and may need to go to a court hearing to be cleared of the charges. Obtaining an expungement of court records may also be required.
Authorities might permanently maintain the victim's name as an alias for the criminal's true identity in their criminal records databases. One problem that victims of criminal identity theft may encounter is that various data aggregators might still have the incorrect criminal records in their databases even after court and police records are corrected.
Thus it is possible that a future background check will return the incorrect criminal records.
This is just one example of the kinds of impact that may continue to affect the victims of identity theft for some months or even years after the crime, aside from the psychological trauma that being 'cloned' typically engenders.

Now, I don't really like making people panic.
But I dislike more when people become extremely vulnerable because they don't knw how things works and let their guard down for lack on info.

So please, I'm not telling you to completly freak out, but do be careful at least, I know the chances of it actually happening are small, but the fact that the chance exist is enough to at least take some precautions.		2011-05-03 22:53:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707

In my opinion, it's like this guy found a phonebook tbh. Which doesn't scare me one bit ^^

And what would you really do, move? Change your last name? I mean, really?

thirdly, just because there's a 500.000 to 1 chance of being struck by lightning doesn't mean I stay away from metal objects :o		2011-05-03 23:35:00

Author:
jakpe
Posts: 84

Some intelligent and well informed stuff!

Thanks for answering this much better than I had the patience too. It's important that everyone realises how much this information can potentially assist identity theft.		2011-05-03 23:53:00

Author:
rialrees
Posts: 1015

Maybe when they catch them they'll allow PSN users to pelt the hacker(s) with eggs, while PS+ users are allowed to use bricks.

Aren't all PSN users getting a free month subscription to PS+? That's gonna be a lot of bricks, and quoting the movie Home Alone 2 "Suck brick kid!"

And wait? Didn't Japan just have some big kahuna catastrophe or something? Why in Zeus' overalls would they be the first to get it back?		2011-05-04 00:03:00

Author:
Jayhawk_er
Posts: 403

And wait? Didn't Japan just have some big kahuna catastrophe or something? Why in Zeus' overalls would they be the first to get it back?

Not only is the main server there, but the catastrophe is reason to give it to them first. Then again, Japan is just a rumor.

Oh, and Zeus doesn't wear overalls. Just saying.		2011-05-04 00:06:00

Author:
JspOt
Posts: 3607

You know instead of wondering when PSN will be back up we could just start a campfire and sing camping songs.

I have full confidence Facebook will catch the hackers soon, I mean they run the world. They even chose what I was going to wear this morning. So just relax and wait for it. ^_~

Anyways once its back up I will certainly be doing that 30 days free PS+. How many bricks do we get? *hint*Sony*cough*hint*good idea*hint*cough*		2011-05-04 00:10:00

Author:
Hana_Kami
Posts: 393

I wrote a very long and detailed reply to Silverleons post. Im not going to rewrite it, somehow it didn't post. I will say I agree and I explained I had been a victim of some minor identity theft. Even though it wasn't that big It took months of phone calls and letters to get it back right. It's not worth it, do what you have to, protect yourself as quick as you can. There are plenty of people and websites out there that will help you take the steps to secure your identity. There are also a ton of things you can do to protect yourself.

Sucks I couldn't post what I wrote but oh well.

Remember it can happen to you. I'm sure a few people on here were victim of identity theft in some way, just ask them and they will tell you how much of a hassle it is. It's even a ****** if someone attempts identity theft on you.		2011-05-04 00:30:00

Author:
METALPUNKS
Posts: 306

I've never been a victim of identity theft, but I'm not worried unless the hacker is female.

I doubt he'd be pretty enough to have any resemblance to me or any girl unless the girl looks like a guy, lol.

Then again I guess not all identity theft is photo related, but even by voice he'd have to be good, and I'm sure debit/credit card info was secure if I remember correctly. And my PSN password is unique to PSN only.

So I'm not too worried, though I can see where others might be.		2011-05-04 00:42:00

Author:
Hana_Kami
Posts: 393

I've never been a victim of identity theft, but I'm not worried unless the hacker is female.

I doubt he'd be pretty enough to have any resemblance to me or any girl unless the girl looks like a guy, lol.

Then again I guess not all identity theft is photo related, but even by voice he'd have to be good, and I'm sure debit/credit card info was secure if I remember correctly. And my PSN password is unique to PSN only.

So I'm not too worried, though I can see where others might be.

They sell the details they have acquired on to other people, the hacker may not be female but sombody else further down the chain will be.		2011-05-04 00:49:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728

^Exactly.
People also seem to forget that Info isn't always taken for the hakers themselves to use, they sell it if they can or don't have use to it themselves.
Either that, or they can just trash it, but there's no really a way to tell if they sold, used, or just trashed the info, that's why its always best to stay on your toes.		2011-05-04 01:13:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707

The servers could have been told to divide by 0.

*Insert comment witty enough to get thanked by 27 different people*		2011-05-04 01:15:00

Author:
PurpleChaos
Posts: 155

*Insert comment witty enough to get thanked by 27 different people*

...Did you honestly complain about jokes that have little relevancy to the thread and made just for the lulz... with a joke with zero relevancy to the thread made solely for the lulz? I cannot begin to fathom the paradoxes in this situation... You... wait... no... what?

/implodes

... well, now I'm dead.

At any rate... now that I finished Xenogears I don't have anything to keep me occupied really. XD		2011-05-04 01:19:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882

I've never been a victim of identity theft, but I'm not worried unless the hacker is female.

I doubt he'd be pretty enough to have any resemblance to me or any girl unless the girl looks like a guy, lol.

Then again I guess not all identity theft is photo related, but even by voice he'd have to be good, and I'm sure debit/credit card info was secure if I remember correctly. And my PSN password is unique to PSN only.

So I'm not too worried, though I can see where others might be.

Just like rabid-coot stated they sell these identities. It wouldn't matter if it was a male or female. Somebody who does this for a living knows what they can and cannot do with a female or males identity. These people are very good cons who have been doing this for as long as it was possible to do. I'm not sayin you don't get that. I just think there are many people who don't understand that these hackers will probably never use your information. They will sell it and make money off of each identity. More money for a better credit score and so on. The people that buy these identities know exactly what to do and how to do it. If they were not good at what they do then we wouldn't have a huge problem today. That's not saying your own parents can't steal your identity. Believe it or not that happens all the time. Just something as simple as them putting a utility bill in your name because they owe money is a case of identity theft.		2011-05-04 01:20:00

Author:
METALPUNKS
Posts: 306

The servers could have been told to divide by 0.


...Did you honestly complain about jokes that have little relevancy to the thread and made just for the lulz... with a joke with zero relevancy to the thread made solely for the lulz? I cannot begin to fathom the paradoxes in this situation... You... wait... no... what?

/implodes

... well, now I'm dead.

At any rate... now that I finished Xenogears I don't have anything to keep me occupied really. XD

Darn. My plans have been foiled. If only i was RayWilliamJohnson..		2011-05-04 01:27:00

Author:
PurpleChaos
Posts: 155

Portal 2 seems to be my only viable source of entertainment until it returns...2011-05-04 02:17:00

Author:
Fading-Dream
Posts: 164

They sell the details they have acquired on to other people, the hacker may not be female but sombody else further down the chain will be.

Oh, I never thought of that. >< Hope I'm lucky then because I'm not changing my name and moving, etc. Only thing I can do is get new debit card, but that info I heard was safe. I can change password but dont think I need to anywhere but PSN since its exclusive. Did I miss anything? Luckily I don't have a bank account or drivers liscense. Oh, almost forgot phone number, which is also nothing to worry about. Hopefully I'm fine, lol.		2011-05-04 03:16:00

Author:
Hana_Kami
Posts: 393

i was checking the recent status for psn this morning when i noticed the section USER APPRECIATION PROGRAMME. I read on and its that EVERYBODY ON PSN will get 30 days free of playstation plus and people who have already subscribed to PS+ would receive an additional 30 days added to their membership instead.
if you think this is fake then go and visit the official playstation network site

heres a link
http://ps3.uk.playstation.com/home/		2011-05-04 07:31:00

Author:
Unknown User

I think most who use this site already kno. They also said 30 days of qriocity service, and free downloads of unidentified content.2011-05-04 07:44:00

Author:
ShadowTyphoon
Posts: 80

This has already been revealed in this thread here. (https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=55809-PSN-Downtime-Reasons-and-Consequences) As the guy above me already mentioned, most of us already know of this. 2011-05-04 07:48:00

Author:
FlipMeister
Posts: 631

I hear something mad yesterday! PSN has a private line! IT is EXACTLY the same as our PSN, with some bonus features. All sony really needed to do is copy the private line then get rid off the non public features. Simple as that! They didn't have to go and make a new one!

Oh, if your asking how I know this, my friend's mum is quiet important, so he gets loads of stuff from businesses.		2011-05-04 07:53:00

Author:
sackruler905
Posts: 103

I hear something mad yesterday! PSN has a private line! IT is EXACTLY the same as our PSN, with some bonus features. All sony really needed to do is copy the private line then get rid off the non public features. Simple as that! They didn't have to go and make a new one!

Oh, if your asking how I know this, my friend's mum is quiet important, so he gets loads of stuff from businesses.

Ah friends relatives what would the internet do without their endless supply of useful accurate information.		2011-05-04 08:24:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728

Ah friends relatives what would the internet do without their endless supply of useful accurate information.

Haha, you know what? My uncle is very important too so he knows everything. He told me PSN will be back online today but you can only synch trophies, not play online.
That's what my uncle said, he lives in America so he knows like everything~		2011-05-04 08:28:00

Author:
AwesomeArnold
Posts: 61

http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2011/05/04/only-900-cc-numbers-stolen-from-soe-were-active/

Out of the 12700 credit/debit card details taken from SOE only 900 were still active.		2011-05-04 08:32:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728

SONYS new slogan: Make Believe we get online anytime soon2011-05-04 10:43:00

Author:
METALPUNKS
Posts: 306

This is just sad (1 billion dollar lawsuit from some guy in Canada) . . .

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/300034/sony-hit-with-1-billion-playstation-network-lawsuit-over-customer-data-theft/

I hope he loses.		2011-05-04 11:30:00

Author:
Hana_Kami
Posts: 393

This is just sad (1 billion dollar lawsuit from some guy in Canada) . . .

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/300034/sony-hit-with-1-billion-playstation-network-lawsuit-over-customer-data-theft/

I hope he loses.

Tch, what a DORK !!! (No offense super-dork42 )		2011-05-04 11:54:00

Author:
nysudyrgh
Posts: 5482

This is just sad (1 billion dollar lawsuit from some guy in Canada) . . .

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/300034/sony-hit-with-1-billion-playstation-network-lawsuit-over-customer-data-theft/

I hope he loses.


Sigh.. well.. as long as he donates it to japan...
or.. to me.. ill make some epic games out of it 		2011-05-04 12:15:00

Author:
Luos_83
Posts: 2136

This is just sad (1 billion dollar lawsuit from some guy in Canada) . . .

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/300034/sony-hit-with-1-billion-playstation-network-lawsuit-over-customer-data-theft/

I hope he loses.

Oh come on! even if someone stole your personal information from sony that doesn't mean that a lawsuit will help!		2011-05-04 16:54:00

Author:
supersonic56
Posts: 287

Today, the Subcommittee on Commerce, Manufacturing and Trade of the U.S. House of Representatives Committee on Energy and Commerce held a hearing in Washington, DC on ?The Threat of Data Theft to American Consumers.?

Kazuo Hirai, Chairman of the Board of Directors of Sony Computer Entertainment America, submitted written answers to questions posed by the subcommittee about the large-scale, criminal cyber-attack we have experienced. We wanted to share those answers with you (click here).

In summary, we told the subcommittee that in dealing with this cyber attack we followed four key principles:

1. Act with care and caution.
2. Provide relevant information to the public when it has been verified.
3. Take responsibility for our obligations to our customers.
4. Work with law enforcement authorities.

We also informed the subcommittee of the following:

* Sony has been the victim of a very carefully planned, very professional, highly sophisticated criminal cyber attack.
* We discovered that the intruders had planted a file on one of our Sony Online Entertainment servers named ?Anonymous? with the words ?We are Legion.?
* By April 25, forensic teams were able to confirm the scope of the personal data they believed had been taken, and could not rule out whether credit card information had been accessed. On April 26, we notified customers of those facts.
* As of today, the major credit card companies have not reported any fraudulent transactions that they believe are the direct result of this cyber attack.
* Protecting individuals? personal data is the highestpriority and ensuring that the Internet can be made secure for commerce is also essential. Worldwide, countries and businesses will have to come together to ensure the safety of commerce over the Internet and find ways to combat cybercrime and cyber terrorism.
* We are taking a number of steps to prevent future breaches, including enhanced levels of data protection and encryption; enhanced ability to detect software intrusions, unauthorized access and unusual activity patterns; additional firewalls; establishment of a new data center in an undisclosed location with increased security; and the naming of a new Chief Information Security Officer.

We told the subcommittee about our intent to offer complimentary identity theft protection to U.S. account holders and detailed the ?Welcome Back? program that includes free downloads, 30 days of free membership in the
PlayStation Plus premium subscription service; 30 days of free service for Music Unlimited subscribers; and extending PlayStation Plus and Music Unlimited subscriptions for the number of days services were unavailable.

We are working around the clock to have some PlayStation Network services restored and we?ll be providing specific details shortly. We hope this update is helpful to you, and we will continue to keep you posted as we work to restore our network and provide you with both the entertainment and the security you deserve.


http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/05/04/sonys-response-to-the-u-s-house-of-representatives/		2011-05-04 17:04:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/05/04/sonys-response-to-the-u-s-house-of-representatives/

so it was annoymous's fault? any one feel like attacking their servers?		2011-05-04 17:10:00

Author:
supersonic56
Posts: 287

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/05/04/sonys-response-to-the-u-s-house-of-representatives/

It's a good update but still nothing about when they'll be back online. Last Tuesday they said within the week, right? They should tell us something, that's the part I don't like. Maybe they don't know anything but I find that hard to believe. Now it's ******* me off. Please do not reply with "they are trying really hard" I don't care. They should tell us something more than "shortly". No I won't trade my ps3 in for an Xbox but I will be angry. I don't care about the welcome back program. I just care about getting on some LBP2 or Portal 2 online.

Also the person who is starting that class action lawsuit needs to just leave it alone. You do not deserve a thing from Sony. Ya I'm mad at them for my own reasons but they shouldn't have to deal with that on top of everything else. Let them focus on other things. God I hope the lawsuit gets kicked.

Sorry for the venting but I'm getting impatient as you can tell.		2011-05-04 17:34:00

Author:
METALPUNKS
Posts: 306

so it was annoymous's fault? any one feel like attacking their servers?

I don't think that means anything...I mean if I was a hacker and I was planning on hacking Sony and see Anonymous has been battling with Sony, what better way to throw them off my trail then by placing a file to make it seem like it was Anonymous. Seems like a smart idea to me.		2011-05-04 17:38:00

Author:
Spider-Jew
Posts: 1090

Sigh... Is this thing ever coming back? And why the heck would Anon choose to hack them RIGHT BEFORE SPRING BREAK? They are jerks. Still, this is taking forever... I got Modnation Racers forever ago and can't even play online at all. It's been so long... Hopefully, it actually comes up today instead of the rumored Friday...2011-05-04 17:40:00

Author:
Fading-Dream
Posts: 164

so it was annoymous's fault? any one feel like attacking their servers?

Not necessarily. I don't really want to defend Anonymous, but just because the hackers basically left a note on the servers saying "Anonymous were here" doesn't mean it was Anonmyous. And it doesn't make sense - why publicly announce you didn't do it if it's your intention for Sony to know it was you? Sounds to me like someone else did the hack and is trying to pin the blame on Anonymous.

Or of course it could just have been someone in Anonymous who did it without the rest of them knowing.
Or they could all have been lying.

Who knows...		2011-05-04 17:44:00

Author:
Nuclearfish
Posts: 927

so it was annoymous's fault? any one feel like attacking their servers?

Was there really ever any doubt??		2011-05-04 17:47:00

Author:
Chazprime
Posts: 587

I for one think that Sony has done a fairly good job keeping us updated on the situation.
As far as letting us know when the PSN will be back up, do you think they really know? I wouldn't want to put a date on something if there was the smallest doubt that it couldn't be done by that date. They would have been better off to not have given any timeline, but I'm sure they felt pressure. In my opinion, they should have said something like "PSN should be up before the end of June."
Yes, that does seem like a long time! But at least then, everyone would have made one big fuss, found a way to assauge the void that is the loss of the PSN, and waited. Then, if Sony got the network back up any time before then, everyone would have been so happy and so surprised. That beats pushing the date further and further back, causing users to be constantly let down, fueling complaints and disgruntlement.		2011-05-04 18:02:00

Author:
Creekey
Posts: 116

so it was annoymous's fault?

From page 5 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/playstationblog/5686963661/in/set-72157626521862165/) of the full letter...


7. Have you identified the individual(s) responsible for the breach?

No.		2011-05-04 18:21:00

Author:
Aya042
Posts: 2870

And it doesn't make sense - why publicly announce you didn't do it if it's your intention for Sony to know it was you?

And not only that, it doesn't fit Anonymous's M.O. Those guys are in it for the lulz, not to make a buck from stealing innocent peoples' info and credit card details. They have a grudge against Sony (some say rightly so), but not its users (http://anonnews.org/?p=press&a=item&i=797), that much is pretty clear.

It's not impossible that the PSN hack has ties to Anonymous of course, but this smells way more like organised crime to me than the work of 4channers. Such a huge stash of personal info that has been nabbed would be worth a lot of money in the right circles, and you can bet that there have been a lot of hungry eyes on that, especially given the recent PS3 hacks and the insight into the inner workings of PSN that they would have allowed.		2011-05-04 18:23:00

Author:
Dr C
Posts: 122

I'm guessing PSN will be back on friday as it is rumored, but I'm not sure. It was rumoured it would be back on tuesday but it wasn't.2011-05-04 18:24:00

Author:
Jakest123
Posts: 319

It's a good update but still nothing about when they'll be back online. Last Tuesday they said within the week, right? They should tell us something, that's the part I don't like. Maybe they don't know anything but I find that hard to believe. Now it's ******* me off. Please do not reply with "they are trying really hard" I don't care. They should tell us something more than "shortly". No I won't trade my ps3 in for an Xbox but I will be angry. I don't care about the welcome back program. I just care about getting on some LBP2 or Portal 2 online.

Also the person who is starting that class action lawsuit needs to just leave it alone. You do not deserve a thing from Sony. Ya I'm mad at them for my own reasons but they shouldn't have to deal with that on top of everything else. Let them focus on other things. God I hope the lawsuit gets kicked.

Sorry for the venting but I'm getting impatient as you can tell.

That thing from last tuesday was an expectation the latest vague timing was "this week" from the press conference on sunday.

We can all have a little rage about the lenght of the downtime but we just have to accept that it'll be done whenever it is done and we won't get a solid time frame until they're sure they have one.

With the world watching your every move after a balls-up involving 100 million accounts details you make sure you've got everything right before you turn it on.		2011-05-04 19:01:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728

I'm guessing PSN will be back on friday as it is rumored, but I'm not sure. It was rumoured it would be back on tuesday but it wasn't.

I didn't even think Tuesday was a rumor. Didn't they say on the playstation blog last tuesday it would hopefully be within the week. I don't know anymore I guess it's back up when it's right in front of you. I don't even believe Sony anymore. I realize even if they knew for sure that'd it be back up tonight they would never say that just because people would be outraged if they broke any kind of promise. I just wish they'd say something, even if it's July or December, whatever the date just tell us the absolute latest. I'm sick of the words "shortly" "soon" "within" and most of all "around the clock".

It's been long enough and people are gonna start getting fed up very soon, if not already. I've played the hell out every single player game I have, I've aced and collected everthing from every LBP game and all DLC, and I can't believe I'm saying this but I'm growing tired of create mode. I'd rather not spend anymore money on any games until this is all over. Also I know I can go find other stuff to do, which I do. I'm just talking about when I sit and play video games.		2011-05-04 19:05:00

Author:
METALPUNKS
Posts: 306

Is it just me, or are others wondering what the heck they did with all their time before they found the PSN?2011-05-04 19:16:00

Author:
Creekey
Posts: 116

Is it just me, or are others wondering what the heck they did with all their time before they found the PSN?


I did something with photography it seems..
suddenly i have been making photos again, something i havent done in more than a year :/		2011-05-04 19:40:00

Author:
Luos_83
Posts: 2136

Is it just me, or are others wondering what the heck they did with all their time before they found the PSN?

For me I did what I do when I'm not playing games, which is quite a lot. It's just that I bought a ps3 a few years ago and I enjoy playing just like I enjoy playing guitar or watching tv or going on vacation or going to museums. For me it'd be the same if my favorite type of strings for my guitar got taken off the shelves and I was waiting for them to come back, I'd be acting the same way as I am now.

Regardless of what people think gaming has become a huge part of people's lives. When people say "In Real Life" someone told me....
What they don't realize is all this has become real life. It's a part of my everyday life, it's something I enjoy doing. Like I said it's not the only thing I do but when I have the time to sit and play some games with my best friend that lives across the country, I'd like to do that. If it wasn't for gaming I'd probably talk to him every now and then, I wouldn't get to enjoy spending time online with him joking and creating things in LBP. I would love to see him more but it's almost impossible, I'm going to visit in june and it's gonna cost almost 2,000 dollars. For me playing games online and chatting give me time to catch up with cousins friends and also some great people I've gotten to know from the PSN network.		2011-05-04 19:50:00

Author:
METALPUNKS
Posts: 306

People shouldn't believe everything they hear related to a date PSN is suppose to be up. It wasn't up yesterday.

You also shouldn't expect it to be up by Friday. Sony doesn't even know, but they keep making estimates. Those estimates are more like Sony telling you when they want it/expect it to be back up. Sony can't possibly know, but they can guess to try and ease the impatience of the players.

Sony is in a tough situation. They want to make the players happy but know that they can't do so until they're positive everything is secure, otherwise they'd have to put up a PSN that they aren't sure is secure enough. And considering I doubt Sony wants a repeat of this situation I doubt they would put PSN up with uncertainties about its security. Who knows what hold up Sony may run into on their way to trying to get it up by the day they expect it to be up. Sony isn't psychic.		2011-05-04 20:07:00

Author:
Hana_Kami
Posts: 393

It'll be up in a month with no r on a day ending in y2011-05-04 20:13:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728

It'll be up in a month with no r on a day ending in y

Crap, all the days end in a "g" over here - looks like we're totally getting stiffed :/		2011-05-04 20:37:00

Author:
rtm223
Posts: 6497

People shouldn't believe everything they hear related to a date PSN is suppose to be up. It wasn't up yesterday.

You also shouldn't expect it to be up by Friday. Sony doesn't even know, but they keep making estimates. Those estimates are more like Sony telling you when they want it/expect it to be back up. Sony can't possibly know, but they can guess to try and ease the impatience of the players.

Sony is in a tough situation. They want to make the players happy but know that they can't do so until they're positive everything is secure, otherwise they'd have to put up a PSN that they aren't sure is secure enough. And considering I doubt Sony wants a repeat of this situation I doubt they would put PSN up with uncertainties about its security. Who knows what hold up Sony may run into on their way to trying to get it up by the day they expect it to be up. Sony isn't psychic.

I do agree with what your saying. The only thing I disagree with is they shouldn't even give us estimates. They have given us a few estimates now, if they'd stop giving them to us I'd be good with that. I honestly wouldn't care If they said 3 months but they'd better have it up by the end of those three months.

I know they are trying to make sure this never happens again. I'm cool with that, take your time Sony. I just want this to end and for me to be able to use my ps3 to its full capabilities. The bottom line is this should have never happened in the first place and they should of had some back up plan if it ever did.

I've learned my lesson after today, I am not going to believe anyone or even Sony on a date. I'll just see it happen when it happens.
In the meantime I need to stay away from that **** Playstation Blog.



I don't know why it blanks out some words on me like they are swears, there not.		2011-05-04 21:01:00

Author:
METALPUNKS
Posts: 306

I did something with photography it seems..
suddenly i have been making photos again, something i havent done in more than a year :/


I vaguely remember being an avid reader. Also, I remember creating art... *erm* by hand (the horror)... and writing. Time to retrieve that dusty box of old art supplies and revive my blog...


For me I did what I do when I'm not playing games, which is quite a lot. It's just that I bought a ps3 a few years ago and I enjoy playing just like I enjoy playing guitar or watching tv or going on vacation or going to museums. For me it'd be the same if my favorite type of strings for my guitar got taken off the shelves and I was waiting for them to come back, I'd be acting the same way as I am now.

Regardless of what people think gaming has become a huge part of people's lives. When people say "In Real Life" someone told me....
What they don't realize is all this has become real life. It's a part of my everyday life, it's something I enjoy doing. Like I said it's not the only thing I do but when I have the time to sit and play some games with my best friend that lives across the country, I'd like to do that. If it wasn't for gaming I'd probably talk to him every now and then, I wouldn't get to enjoy spending time online with him joking and creating things in LBP. I would love to see him more but it's almost impossible, I'm going to visit in june and it's gonna cost almost 2,000 dollars. For me playing games online and chatting give me time to catch up with cousins friends and also some great people I've gotten to know from the PSN network.

Yes indeed, it has mostly become a beloved replacement for all the other things I enjoy doing. But I wouldn't change it. I enjoy creating things on LBP as much as I do, shall I say, "by hand". Plus a person gets to meet a lot of different people that they wouldn't normally meet. Sure, there are a lot of jerks/weirdos out there, but I personally have met some very interesting and great people through the PSN... and they love to game as much as me, which is awesome!		2011-05-04 21:04:00

Author:
Creekey
Posts: 116

Wow, you really think hackers would steal information to visit people and prank call them?
You do realize some places, this is enough to make a fake ID, right?
At YOUR name.

Meaning anything they do with it is under you.
Ever heard of Identity theft?
They don't even need credit card information that's just one type of Identity Theft.

For example, there is:
- Business/commercial identity theft (using another's business name to obtain credit)
- Criminal identity theft (posing as another person when apprehended for a crime)
- Financial identity theft (using another's identity to obtain credit, goods and services)
- Identity cloning (using another's information to assume his or her identity in daily life)
- Medical identity theft (using another's identity to obtain medical care or drugs)
- Child identity theft


You may laugh at that, but with that info, they could easly make fake IDs at your name, what does that mean?



Now, I don't really like making people panic.
But I dislike more when people become extremely vulnerable because they don't knw how things works and let their guard down for lack on info.

So please, I'm not telling you to completly freak out, but do be careful at least, I know the chances of it actually happening are small, but the fact that the chance exist is enough to at least take some precautions.

I know Leon.
But I was just trying to be punny. (*annoys Leon*, yes ive read the site feedback) 		2011-05-04 21:23:00

Author:
nysudyrgh
Posts: 5482

Reading the Sony blogs kind of reminds me of heroine hero from south park.2011-05-04 22:07:00

Author:
CENTURION24
Posts: 266

oh dear

according to a google translated version of the japanese outage page (http://cdn.jp.playstation.com/msg/state.html) service might not restored this week and some of the stuff won't return until july.		2011-05-04 22:19:00

Author:
supersonic56
Posts: 287

I couldn't see one mention of the word July in that translation, only a badly translated copy of the May 1st announcement.


"PlayStation Network" full resumption of service (in May)

Did I miss something? 		2011-05-04 23:30:00

Author:
rialrees
Posts: 1015

http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=ja&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.jp.playstation.com%2Fmsg%2Fstat e.html&act=url

Also not seeing july in there.		2011-05-04 23:47:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728

I do agree with what your saying. The only thing I disagree with is they shouldn't even give us estimates. They have given us a few estimates now, if they'd stop giving them to us I'd be good with that. I honestly wouldn't care If they said 3 months but they'd better have it up by the end of those three months.

I know they are trying to make sure this never happens again. I'm cool with that, take your time Sony. I just want this to end and for me to be able to use my ps3 to its full capabilities. The bottom line is this should have never happened in the first place and they should of had some back up plan if it ever did.

I've learned my lesson after today, I am not going to believe anyone or even Sony on a date. I'll just see it happen when it happens.
In the meantime I need to stay away from that **** Playstation Blog.



I don't know why it blanks out some words on me like they are swears, there not.

They don't give any dates:
*BAHJGCVHJDSVHBJFHBFB GIVE US A DATE SONY, AT LEAST AN ESTIMATE, BUT WE WANT DATE NAOOOOO!!!

They Give estimate:
*Yay, finally, that's all we wanted to hear!

Estimated time passes:
*MHGVCSJGVFJHBFLKJHEBGFGEEG WHY DID YOU GIVE US AN ESTIMATE IF IT ISN'T TRUE!!!!!
GIVE US TRUE DATE IVEN IF YOU YOURSELVES DON'T KNOW IT YET!!!!


Point being, if they give any fake "True date" when even they don't know when its gonna be back up, people are going to rage, if they give estimate, people are going to rage, but not as many, if they don't give any dates, everyone rages.

ow of all those options, which would you say be the better course of action?

oh dear

according to a google translated version of the japanese outage page (http://cdn.jp.playstation.com/msg/state.html) service might not restored this week and some of the stuff won't return until july.

You shouldn't make stuff up just beacuse you think no one will be able to read it, because some can.
In a part it clearly says they expect things to be fully operational within May.		2011-05-04 23:48:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707

I couldn't see one mention of the word July in that translation, only a badly translated copy of the May 1st announcement.



Did I miss something?

edit: the japanese text i put onto this post turned into ?'s so just copy all the text on the rectangles except the faded one below the first paragraph you see on the page and put it into google translate (i was using the ps3 if you are still having trouble.)

it should translate to this.

"PlayStation Network" and the failure continues, I am sorry indeed. Today, from Sony Computer Entertainment Inc., "PlayStation Network" we have a presentation on current and future support for unauthorized access. We are committed to improving the capacity and ongoing security management, "PlayStation Network" progressively restart services on a regional basis. The trouble, as we offer special services and appreciation of the user apologize to everybody Sorry for worry. ? For further information, please see press release here. We apologize for the inconvenience to everyone, but inconvenience, humbly thank you for your understanding. Incrementally on a regional basis along the following schedule schedule service restart "PlayStation Network" service will resume. For specific dates, we will guide you turn at this site. Guide update (today) to allow password changes "PlayStation 3" System Software Update ver.3.61 (soon) at this time "PlayStation Network" is not yet available. "PlayStation Network" restart some services (soon) liable ? The service will resume "soon to be resumed" PlayStation Network "service / feature" please see. Getting signed - will need to change your password. - Change the password by performing the procedure, "PlayStation Network" are some of the services can use. "PSP" "PlayStation Portable" With regard to the password change, "PlayStation 3" I will guide you through the timing made it possible to change the password. "PlayStation Network" full resumption of service (in July) will resume soon "PlayStation Network" service / service as the first step to resume in the near feature,		2011-05-04 23:57:00

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supersonic56
Posts: 287

edit: the japanese text i put onto this post turned into ?'s so just copy all the text on the rectangles except the faded one below the first paragraph you see on the page and put it into google translate (i was using the ps3 if you are still having trouble.)

it should translate to this.

"PlayStation Network" and the failure continues, I am sorry indeed. Today, from Sony Computer Entertainment Inc., "PlayStation Network" we have a presentation on current and future support for unauthorized access. We are committed to improving the capacity and ongoing security management, "PlayStation Network" progressively restart services on a regional basis. The trouble, as we offer special services and appreciation of the user apologize to everybody Sorry for worry. ? For further information, please see press release here. We apologize for the inconvenience to everyone, but inconvenience, humbly thank you for your understanding. Incrementally on a regional basis along the following schedule schedule service restart "PlayStation Network" service will resume. For specific dates, we will guide you turn at this site. Guide update (today) to allow password changes "PlayStation 3" System Software Update ver.3.61 (soon) at this time "PlayStation Network" is not yet available. "PlayStation Network" restart some services (soon) liable ? The service will resume "soon to be resumed" PlayStation Network "service / feature" please see. Getting signed - will need to change your password. - Change the password by performing the procedure, "PlayStation Network" are some of the services can use. "PSP" "PlayStation Portable" With regard to the password change, "PlayStation 3" I will guide you through the timing made it possible to change the password. "PlayStation Network" full resumption of service (in July) will resume soon "PlayStation Network" service / service as the first step to resume in the near feature,

Now, you're relying in google translations here, remember that.
Also, would you mind reading what yoyu just posted?
Now, how accurate/ well translated does it sound? xD		2011-05-05 00:16:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707

Still google translating still May.

Babel fish also May.		2011-05-05 00:21:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728

They don't give any dates:
*BAHJGCVHJDSVHBJFHBFB GIVE US A DATE SONY, AT LEAST AN ESTIMATE, BUT WE WANT DATE NAOOOOO!!!

They Give estimate:
*Yay, finally, that's all we wanted to hear!

Estimated time passes:
*MHGVCSJGVFJHBFLKJHEBGFGEEG WHY DID YOU GIVE US AN ESTIMATE IF IT ISN'T TRUE!!!!!
GIVE US TRUE DATE IVEN IF YOU YOURSELVES DON'T KNOW IT YET!!!!


Point being, if they give any fake "True date" when even they don't know when its gonna be back up, people are going to rage, if they give estimate, people are going to rage, but not as many, if they don't give any dates, everyone rages.

ow of all those options, which would you say be the better course of action?


Oh lord I'm confused lol. Not really I get what your saying. I know Sony is doing the right thing as far as dates go. I can imagine they've thought everything through over and over. They want the situation to be as much of a situation as possible, not a catastrophe. I get it, I really do I'm not an impatient person, I'm usually relaxed. It's just I'm over it just like everyone else. I guess as long as the actual problem is resolved that's all that really matters. The problem which is us feeling secure. I'm just pumped to play some co op action on some Portal 2.		2011-05-05 00:28:00

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METALPUNKS
Posts: 306

Now, you're relying in google translations here, remember that.
Also, would you mind reading what yoyu just posted?
Now, how accurate/ well translated does it sound? xD

i know

now why don't you watch playstation's bizzare japanese ads with scallion's (http://www.jp.playstation.com/banno/) while we wait for psn to come back up?


Still google translating still May.

Babel fish also May.

i give up over arguing about this so just try doing it with your ps3 and that may work.		2011-05-05 00:29:00

Author:
supersonic56
Posts: 287

i give up over arguing about this so just try doing it with your ps3 and that may work.

PS3 also says may.

http://i51.tinypic.com/2me7sdg.jpg		2011-05-05 00:53:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728

I read through another translator for a language I dont recognize that it would be up by March 2012, but I was under the influence of alcohol, so it may have read May 2011.

Don't hold me to it.






Disclaimer: I rarely ever drink, nor I do I endorse the consumption of alcohol while using a random translator to seek answers from a normally official source of when PSN will be up.		2011-05-05 01:27:00

Author:
Hana_Kami
Posts: 393

So it's says FULL service in may, that means anytime this month. Honestly screw Sony I'm beyond angry. I go back and forth, this is one of my angry hours. In an hour I'll understand and be calm, then mad again. So nobody should take what I say seriously lol. I can't wait till I come here and see a post that says "I just signed in".

Also I have a question. It doesn't seem to happen here but on other forums people seem to think that the lady suing for 1 billion dollars is trying to get a billion dollars. Try do realize it's for a class action lawsuit. They honestly think she is going to get a billion dollars. I don't believe in any of these lawsuits toward Sony. If you are one of those people please just leave them alone. I keep telling myself I think I'm stressed, I couldn't imagine what Sony is going through right now. I'd be shocked if people don't loose their jobs over this, if they haven't already, even though it's not their fault they were just doing their jobs. **** hackers! In my opinion when it boils down to it they are the ones to blame. Why couldn't they be nice hackers and just tell Sony what their problems were instead of ruining everything, ya right maybe in another lifetime. Maybe Sony should hire some of these hackers to work for them.		2011-05-05 01:30:00

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METALPUNKS
Posts: 306

I keep telling myself I think I'm stressed, I couldn't imagine what Sony is going through right now. I'd be shocked if people don't loose their jobs over this, if they haven't already, even though it's not their fault they were just doing their jobs. **** hackers! In my opinion when it boils down to it they are the ones to blame. Why couldn't they be nice hackers and just tell Sony what their problems were instead of ruining everything, ya right maybe in another lifetime. Maybe Sony should hire some of these hackers to work for them.

I couldn't find a translation for your post so this was the best I found . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJKLvckpiLk		2011-05-05 01:44:00

Author:
Hana_Kami
Posts: 393

looks above.....Lol2011-05-05 01:57:00

Author:
The_Lil_JoKeR
Posts: 745

I couldn't find a translation for your post so this was the best I found . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJKLvckpiLk

Thanks for doing that. Lol		2011-05-05 02:09:00

Author:
METALPUNKS
Posts: 306

so it was annoymous's fault? any one feel like attacking their servers?

Not quite.

Anyone can say their anonymous. Unless it's linked to them, we can't be sure.
Plus, doesn't anonymous like, declare their hacking instead of saying they didn't? I don't know but that's what I heard, so I can't be sure.

Edit: Errm, I should start checking what page I am on before quoting. -/Shot-		2011-05-05 02:21:00

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Tmjtk
Posts: 258

PS3 also says may.

http://i51.tinypic.com/2me7sdg.jpg

i thought you were copying part of the text and pasting it into the translator like i did! never mind though im done arguing about it.		2011-05-05 02:47:00

Author:
supersonic56
Posts: 287

Anyone can say their anonymous.

So because of the nature of the group, they really can't not take responsibility because anyone claiming to be Anonymous, is Anonymous.		2011-05-05 02:48:00

Author:
Chazprime
Posts: 587

Anonymous:
*Something good happens.
"WE DID IT IT WAS ALL US, BRING ON THE FAME!"

*They eff up.
We cannot be held account for individual actions of our members.

That pretty much sums it up, right?		2011-05-05 05:43:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707

So, since only information from the 2007 database was stolen, does that mean users who signed up after 2007 will not be affected?2011-05-05 07:46:00

Author:
Retro
Posts: 104

I got this nice timeline to make people understand how everything happened


Here’s the timeline:


January 11, 2011. Sony sues George “GeoHot” Hotz and others for jailbreaking, or circumventing the security sytsetm of the PlayStation 3.

January 27, 2011. Sony asks for a temporary restraining order stopping Hotz from further distributing the jailbreak tools to users, who can download them and break the security on their machines so they can run unauthorized software.

February 12, 2011. Hotz posts on rap video on his YouTube page explaining his side of the case. (It now has 1.8 million views).

February 19, 2011. Hotz starts a blog about the lawsuit.

March 6, 2011. Court approves Sony request to access all the internet protocol addresses of the people who visited GeoHot’s blog to download the jailbreaking tools.

March 23, 2011. Sony claims that Hotz has fled to South America and destroyed evidence. That turns out not to be true, according to Hotz’s attorney.

April 3, 2011. Hacktivist group Anonymous launches a cyber attack against various Sony web sites in an operation called #OpSony in retaliation for Sony’s pursuit of George “GEoHot” Hotz and Graf_Chokolo.

April 11, 2011. Sony settles the PS 3 jailbreaking case with Hotz. Anonymous says it will continue with boycott of Sony on April 16.

April 19, 2011, 4:15 pm Pacific time. Members of the Sony Computer Entertainment network team detected unauthorized activity in the PlayStation Network system in San Diego, Calif. Certain systems were rebooting when they were not scheduled to do so. The network service team started reviewing the logs from the system to see what was wrong. It took four servers offline.

April 20, 2011, early afternoon. Sony’s team discovered evidence that an unauthorized intrusion had occurred and that data of some kind had been transferred off the PSN servers without authorization. Six more servers are found to have been possibly compromised. Sony hires a forensic investigation team that afternoon. That team begins to “mirror” Sony’s systems, a meticulous process.
The team couldn’t determine what had been taken and so they shut the network system down. At that point, the 77 million registered users of the network couldn’t play online games, access their accounts, or purchase movies and other entertainment on the network. Sony’s experts have to delve through 130 servers and 50 programs.

April 21, 2011. Sony hired a second computer security and forensic consulting firm to provide more manpower.

April 22, 2011. The forensics team completes the mirroring of nine of ten servers that were believed to be compromised. Sony Computer Entertainment’s general counsel provided the FBI with information about the intrustion. Sony’s forensics team had not reached any conclusions at that point.

April 23, 2011. Sony’s forensics teams confirm that very sophisticated and aggressive techniques were used to obtain access, hide their presence from system administrators, and steadily escalate their privileges inside the servers. The intruders deleted log files to hide thier work. Sony now realized it needed yet another forensic team to help.

April 25, 2011. The forensics teams determined the scope of the personal data that had been stolen from all PSN and Qriocity service accounts, but the team did not know if credit card numbers had been accessed.

April 26, 2011. Sony provides public notice about the intrusion. It also notifies regulatory authorities in a variety of states about the criminal intrusion.

April 28, 2011. Hotz denies any involvement in PSN attack.

April 30, 2011. Sony’s No. 2 executive, Kazuo Hirai, apologizes to Sony’s customers and holds the first public press conference about the attack. He says the PSN should be up within a week and that Sony has beefed up its security.

April 29, 2011. House of Representatives subcommittee asks for more information on the attack as it considers legislation to require companies to notify consumers in case of data theft.

May 1, 2011. Sony finds new evidence that hackers broke into the servers of Sony Online Entertainment, the PC online gaming division of the company which runs online games such as Free Realms and EverQuest. Sony discovers a file that says “Anonymous,” “We are legion.” That’s the slogan for the hacktivist group.

May 2, 2011. Sony says it will explain what happened to Congress but won’t testify yet.

May 4, 2011. Sony sends letter to Congress answering questions.		2011-05-05 08:22:00

Author:
METALPUNKS
Posts: 306

May ?th, 2011 PSN comes back online, there is a crazy amount of great LBP stages uploaded all at once. The 'Newest' list wont even contain a 'FREE DLC Costume Shark Bomb Survival' because of pent up creativity.2011-05-05 08:45:00

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Mr_Fusion
Posts: 1799

i thought you were copying part of the text and pasting it into the translator like i did! never mind though im done arguing about it.

I did that method too, there was no change in my results.		2011-05-05 08:58:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728

So, since only information from the 2007 database was stolen, does that mean users who signed up after 2007 will not be affected?


Yup, and they say only 900 of those 12K were still active, which altho a lot, its a lot less than was expected.		2011-05-05 09:37:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707

May ?th, 2011 PSN comes back online, there is a crazy amount of great LBP stages uploaded all at once. The 'Newest' list wont even contain a 'FREE DLC Costume Shark Bomb Survival' because of pent up creativity.

Exactly, I got 6 levels to upload because I didn't have little big planet 2 yet. One of the positive aspects of the downtime is that I spend more time creating levels 		2011-05-05 09:46:00

Author:
AwesomeArnold
Posts: 61

Whelp, Just about a min ago from postig this post there was a small coverage of what's happened on some CBS news program.
nothing new, same we know, explaining what Sony said last update.		2011-05-05 09:54:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707

Exactly, I got 6 levels to upload because I didn't have little big planet 2 yet. One of the positive aspects of the downtime is that I spend more time creating levels


I am not gonna upload anything a whole week after psn gets back up, because thousands of ppl are gonna re-publish their level dueto not having a full week of attention, plus all the time people probably spend creating levels while psn was down.
thousands of levels wil be swamped by thousands of others levels which will be swamped with thousands of free costume levels and what not.		2011-05-05 12:07:00

Author:
Luos_83
Posts: 2136

Exactly, I got 6 levels to upload because I didn't have little big planet 2 yet. One of the positive aspects of the downtime is that I spend more time creating levels


I am not gonna upload anything a whole week after psn gets back up, because thousands of ppl are gonna re-publish their level dueto not having a full week of attention, plus all the time people probably spend creating levels while psn was down.
thousands of levels wil be swamped by thousands of others levels which will be swamped with thousands of free costume levels and what not.

... That was MY plan! BAH! I'll wait another week on top of that. I'll play all the new levels for a fortnight, and maybe try to load that Hansel and Gretlebot stage again for a day or two

Actually, this downtime I think might be a good lesson in creation. Sure, it's 'ready' to publish, but has it been polished? I had my first serious stage almost ready to go a day before the downtime, and was going to finish and publish it over the weekend. Now, it has cut scenes and a custom soundtrack, and some (I hope) interesting multiplayer aspects. Not to mention my FREE Iron man sackbot costume he even sort of flies.		2011-05-05 13:15:00

Author:
Mr_Fusion
Posts: 1799

Yet again, if everyone's thinking like that, or at least teh majority, wouldn't it be the smart move to upload/ republish right after PSN's back up?

Anywho, about 3 - 4 days until Sony announces the next "in one week" estimation, guys, or at least I think it'll be one week, maybe 2?
Who knows, maybe this time they'll extend the estimation to a month. 		2011-05-05 13:39:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707

I didn't guite understand. When exactly is PSN coming back online? Is it 8th of May or 1?th or 2?th of May?2011-05-05 13:42:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462

I got this nice timeline to make people understand how everything happened


Here’s the timeline:

[Timeline Here]

That is an awesome compilation. One thing I would suggest though, cite every statement you made so the facts can more easily be verified. Also, you really should bug Aya about putting this on page 1. Pretty invaluable information.		2011-05-05 13:53:00

Author:
Unknown User

I didn't guite understand. When exactly is PSN coming back online? Is it 8th of May or 1?th or 2?th of May?

According to Sony: "Soon."

The only "official" estimate I have seen written down is the month of May. So anytime between now and the 31st.		2011-05-05 13:54:00

Author:
schm0
Posts: 1239

The New York Attorney General subpoenaed Sony over the data breach of its Playstation and Sony Online Entertainment networks, Bloomberg reports.

Citing a person familiar with the probe, Bloomberg reports that New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman is looking into the data breach and seeking information on what Sony told customers about the security of their networks. The probe is part of a consumer protection inquiry, according to the report.

Speaking with Kotaku last week, a spokesperson with the Federal Trade Commission said the guarantees made by Sony, or any company, about the protection of personal information and credit card data is typically why the FTC gets involved in data breach cases. At issue is whether a company made direct or implied guarantees about data safety and in so doing, misled a consumer, essentially through false advertising.

Earlier this week, Sony Computer Entertainment's Kazuo Hirai detailed to congress in a letter how the intrusion in their networks was first detected, the steps the company is taking to investigate it and prevent further breaches and why it took so long for Sony to notify customers. Sony also noted that during the break in someone left a file on a Sony server named "Anonymous" with the words "We are Legion."

On Sunday, Hirai told the world, during a press conference, that the company plans to have parts of the Playstation Network back online this week. Sony officials reaffirmed that timeline to Kotaku yesterday.

http://uk.kotaku.com/5798846/report-new-york-state-subpoenas-sony-over-breach

So another person looking into it and sort of news that the latest vague timeline is still on track.		2011-05-05 13:56:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728

Well I was fine until my PS YLOD the other nite. Did a quick reflow fired her up, started LBP2 and now I cant use ANY of my DLC. So until the servers are back up, I can not enter any of my levels or use any of my DLC that i PAID for....this sucks.2011-05-05 14:08:00

Author:
sascha_winter
Posts: 163

Also, you really should bug Aya about putting this on page 1. Pretty invaluable information.

I kinda wanted to limit it to stuff related to the current downtime, which is the topic of the thread. If I include the stuff about GeoHot and Anonymous, it might create the false impression that it's in some way related to the current situation. Further, every statement in the OP includes URLs to reliable sources, and I've tried to avoid including any unsourced info.

Besides, the "News and Media" forum is for news which relates to LBP, and due to LBP's reliance on PSN for online functionality, the downtime would seem to apply, but GeoHot and his custom firmware hacks would seem to be unrelated.

I'm considering removing the stuff about SOE, actually - it might create the impression that the two intrusions were conducted by the same party, but there's no evidence to suggest that at the moment. Plus, it's completely unrelated to LBP.		2011-05-05 14:45:00

Author:
Aya042
Posts: 2870

Some update from Sony Ireland
http://www.shoptonews.net/2011/05/05/sony-ireland-provide-update-on-psn/
Basically

I know you are still eagerly awaiting news on when PSN will be back up & feel we have been very quiet. The only reason for this is we don't want to disappoint you further by giving any info unless it is 100% confirmed. Unfortunately we still dont have a confirmed date for when PSN will resume but please believe us when we say we are working around the clock and will share any further news with you as soon as we can.		2011-05-05 15:09:00

Author:
OmegaSlayer
Posts: 5112

Some update from Sony Ireland
http://www.shoptonews.net/2011/05/05/sony-ireland-provide-update-on-psn/
Basically

They have been working around the clock for 3 weeks now, come on bring in more manpower if it takes this long... I'm getting ********** tired of this bullcrap. I bought a PS3 to go online and play with RL friends from faraway. This sucks and Sony will lose A LOT of costumers if they keep working "around the clock" without giving us any date...		2011-05-05 15:51:00

Author:
AwesomeArnold
Posts: 61

They have been working around the clock for 3 weeks now, come on bring in more manpower if it takes this long... I'm getting ********** tired of this bullcrap. I bought a PS3 to go online and play with RL friends from faraway. This sucks and Sony will lose A LOT of costumers if they keep working "around the clock" without giving us any date...

Patience is a virtue. (Or so they say)
They are working hard on it, and possibly working harder on catching the hackers.

I, on the other hand, can wait awhile. Mostly because the new Zombie pack comes next month for black ops... Mmm... Zombies...		2011-05-05 16:01:00

Author:
Tmjtk
Posts: 258

They have been working around the clock for 3 weeks now.

Two weeks not three.		2011-05-05 16:07:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728

They have been working around the clock for 3 weeks now, come on bring in more manpower if it takes this long... I'm getting ********** tired of this bullcrap. I bought a PS3 to go online and play with RL friends from faraway. This sucks and Sony will lose A LOT of costumers if they keep working "around the clock" without giving us any date...

I'm with you on that. What makes me made is they say within a week last Tuesday, but now here it is thursday and not even a decent update on when service will return. They should have never said within a week. What a joke this sucks. We deserve a detailed update regarding the network. You can't say they don't know anything because if they didn't know anything then they wouldn't know what to work on. I have a feeling it's not good news and they don't dissapoint.		2011-05-05 16:20:00

Author:
METALPUNKS
Posts: 306

If it was me I would just give a much longer estimate then what I needed to get the job done. Say they gave us 10 weeks. I would stop all the wondering and set my mind on 2 1/2 months and not worry about it. Then when they finish 2 weeks earlier I'd be happily surrprised and they would look good for getting it done early. but instead they are stringing us along like little kids chasing the ice cream man.2011-05-05 17:07:00

Author:
CENTURION24
Posts: 266

If it was me I would just give a much longer estimate then what I needed to get the job done. Say they gave us 10 weeks. I would stop all the wondering and set my mind on 2 1/2 months and not worry about it. Then when they finish 2 weeks earlier I'd be happily surrprised and they would look good for getting it done early. but instead they are stringing us along like little kids chasing the ice cream man.

Exactly what I have said. I have concluded that they need to work on their PR.		2011-05-05 17:40:00

Author:
Creekey
Posts: 116

they need to work on their PR.

And their security 		2011-05-05 17:47:00

Author:
Luos_83
Posts: 2136

Anonymous again confirms that they had nothing to do with it.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/may/05/anonymous-sony-playstation-hacking-statement		2011-05-05 17:51:00

Author:
schm0
Posts: 1239

So it's says FULL service in may, that means anytime this month. Honestly screw Sony I'm beyond angry. I go back and forth, this is one of my angry hours. In an hour I'll understand and be calm, then mad again. So nobody should take what I say seriously lol. I can't wait till I come here and see a post that says "I just signed in".

I'm glad I'm not the only one who has these symptoms. But really, I think it has caused enough widespread upset and anger that we should dub it a sickness, and call it something like: "Sonylariatisis". At least we are not constantly enveloped in a state of rage as I am sure many are. They probably have the more serious, advanced stage of "Sonylariatisis".		2011-05-05 18:04:00

Author:
Creekey
Posts: 116

This stinks (tear*)2011-05-05 18:11:00

Author:
Unknown User

And their security


Nice.

I have realized something. I love Sony, they have sold me a lot of fun things in the past. But you can't rely on a company for answers when that company is essentially, a work in progress. These attacks have caused them to digress from their norm of corporate invincibility.

Just keepin' it real. I'd like to give them a break but sometimes I just get so angry. 		2011-05-05 18:16:00

Author:
Creekey
Posts: 116

Anonymous again confirms that they had nothing to do with it.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/may/05/anonymous-sony-playstation-hacking-statement

First of all, why would you confirm you stole credit card info?
2nd of all, since anonymous allready "spammed" sony, a smart hacker could easily add a small hint towards anon so it takes longer before the actual hacker is found.
3th, Anon is known for lying/trolling.. so why would you believe them in the first place.		2011-05-05 18:16:00

Author:
Luos_83
Posts: 2136

Anonymous again confirms that they had nothing to do with it.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/may/05/anonymous-sony-playstation-hacking-statement

I am sure they didn't...

However... from their statement

"4. In the realm of criminal investigation, there is an important aspect of investigations that should never be overlooked. The "modus operandi" of a criminal rarely changes. Whoever did perform the credit card theft did so contrary to the "modus operandi" and intentions of Anonymous. Public support is not gained by stealing credit card info and personal identities, we are trying to fight criminal activities by corporations and governments, not steal credit cards."

..and public support is not gained by DDOS attacks to a company subsequently rendering their network completely useless to innocent PS3 gamers who simply want to play their games online. i.e Not very smart there guys... 		2011-05-05 18:16:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383

I'm glad I'm not the only one who has these symptoms. But really, I think it has caused enough widespread upset and anger that we should dub it a sickness, and call it something like: "Sonylariatisis". At least we are not constantly enveloped in a state of rage as I am sure many are. They probably have the more serious, advanced stage of "Sonylariatisis".

Join in on my 6pm meeting everynight to help with this disease.
I've recenty started SA ( Sonylariatisis Anonymous)
Better known as SIHA (Sonylariatisis I Hate Anonymous)

I only have step one from a twelve step program.

STEP 1: Admit to yourself that PSN will never return, maybe you should use your ps3 for something more useful like cooking hotdogs, dust collector, or exercise equipment


If anyone has any of the other 12 steps feel free to add them below.		2011-05-05 18:21:00

Author:
METALPUNKS
Posts: 306

I dont hate anonymous, they can do whatever they want.


Though:

Step 2: If you have cats, just hold the ps3 close to them, the ps3 is now a over-expensive surrogate for a comb.		2011-05-05 18:28:00

Author:
Luos_83
Posts: 2136

Step three: Oh, wait i'll have to buy one first. 2011-05-05 18:34:00

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nysudyrgh
Posts: 5482

Step 4: Create a positive mantra to repeat over and over in your head when symptoms of the disease are unbearable. Use a mantra such as, "I am strong and I am smart, don't you see? I am beyond Sony's fallacies."

Yes, it helps if the mantra rhymes.		2011-05-05 18:36:00

Author:
Creekey
Posts: 116

Step 5: There must be another fist somewhere, and probably also a chuck norris, and to make it less off-topic, it should be something about sony being hacked. :/

(smells a mod modding these last few posts in a few hours)		2011-05-05 18:44:00

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Luos_83
Posts: 2136

Step 5: There must be another fist somewhere, and probably also a chuck norris, and to make it less off-topic, it should be something about sony being hacked. :/

(smells a mod modding these last few posts in a few hours)

Hmm, yes. This is not a wise place to be talking about it I suppose. Join me over in the General Chat under the thread name "Sonylariatisis Anonymous" to continue on our journey to self healing.		2011-05-05 18:49:00

Author:
Creekey
Posts: 116

(smells a mod modding these last few posts in a few hours)

Ahem.

Anyways, you guys wanna know my theory? It's some disgruntled Anonawannabe who hates Sony acting alone or with a small group of fellow hackers that did it. Not the Anonymous group itself, but a splinter group within. They said it themselves, it very well may be someone within their group but they didn't act on the direction of it's (albeit decentralized) leadership.		2011-05-05 18:53:00

Author:
schm0
Posts: 1239

well, it could even be the chinese, or russians.. heck it could be a autistic kid.2011-05-05 18:56:00

Author:
Luos_83
Posts: 2136

.. heck it could be a autistic kid.

I'm not autistic!!

..oh wait! Ummm... no it wasn't me!! I promise! I only use my techno talent for good!! 		2011-05-05 19:01:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383

I didn't guite understand. When exactly is PSN coming back online? Is it 8th of May or 1?th or 2?th of May?

It was confirmed it would be up on your birthday.		2011-05-05 19:10:00

Author:
Hana_Kami
Posts: 393

I hope it gets back online soon, but from my knowledge rebuilding systems of this size can take months or even a year or more. If it goes back online this week or next it would be a massive achievement.

I believe anonymous as a whole is not involved, but may have been perpetrated by a former member perhaps.

This attack could have been much worse, it could in theory, take full control of the psn network delete, modify, steal all data and pass viruses to all ps3s online, including installing rougue firmware to make a supercomputer botnet the likes of which history have never seen, or bricking ps3s.		2011-05-05 19:44:00

Author:
PerfectlyDarkTails
Posts: 269

It was confirmed it would be up on your birthday.

Or any other day between easter and x-mas.		2011-05-05 19:45:00

Author:
Luos_83
Posts: 2136

well, it could even be the chinese, or russians.. heck it could be a autistic kid.
I am autistic, you've hurt my feelings.
hehe, just kidding, but i was not kidding about being autistic.		2011-05-05 19:48:00

Author:
nysudyrgh
Posts: 5482

Ahem.

Anyways, you guys wanna know my theory? It's some disgruntled Anonawannabe who hates Sony acting alone or with a small group of fellow hackers that did it. Not the Anonymous group itself, but a splinter group within. They said it themselves, it very well may be someone within their group but they didn't act on the direction of it's (albeit decentralized) leadership.

Yeah right a splinter group within/outside Anonymous claiming to be Anonymous which doesn't have a leader (confusing, I know) It could very well be Anonymous themselves... Mr. Pinwheel		2011-05-05 19:51:00

Author:
AwesomeArnold
Posts: 61

I hope it gets back online soon, but from my knowledge rebuilding systems of this size can take months or even a year or more. If it goes back online this week or next it would be a massive achievement.

I believe anonymous as a whole is not involved, but may have been perpetrated by a former member perhaps.

This depends. I did research on this a week ago. From my findings I learned the following . . .

To rebuild the network infrastructure of a small company takes an average of 4 to 11 days give or take some depending on various factors.

To rebuild the network infrastructure of a large company like Sony takes an average of 11 days to anywhere less than 3 months give or take some depending on various factors.

To rebuild the network infrastructure of a city like New York as example takes an average of 3 months to a year give or take some depending on various factors. Took 3 months for New York city to rebuild its network infrastructure after 9/11. That's fast.

Various factors listed above depends on manpower and what exactly is being done during the rebuilding process.		2011-05-05 20:05:00

Author:
Hana_Kami
Posts: 393

at least this gives me some time to focus on my single-player stuff.
BTW: anger-problem FTW		2011-05-05 20:06:00

Author:
razalor
Posts: 23

oh dear (http://www.gamespot.com/news/6312333.html?tag=updates%3Beditor%3Ball%3Btitle%3B 1)

sony's security was outdated and they didn't do anything about it.		2011-05-05 20:38:00

Author:
supersonic56
Posts: 287

Admit to yourself that PSN will never return, maybe you should use your ps3 for something more useful like cooking hotdogs, dust collector, or exercise equipment

Or you could, like, play games on it, you know, ones that don't require PSN. You see, not long ago, on the PS2 even, most people didn't have online capabilites, they played single player games instead. And you know what, they still have those for the PS3!

Just an idea. 		2011-05-05 20:42:00

Author:
Rogar
Posts: 2284

oh dear (http://www.gamespot.com/news/6312333.html?tag=updates%3Beditor%3Ball%3Btitle%3B 1)

sony's security was outdated and they didn't do anything about it.

Holy cow! Sony really screwed up now. Prepare to be torn down by the people who were once your fans.		2011-05-05 20:44:00

Author:
AwesomeArnold
Posts: 61

oh dear (http://www.gamespot.com/news/6312333.html?tag=updates%3Beditor%3Ball%3Btitle%3B 1)

sony's security was outdated and they didn't do anything about it.

Firewalls are overrated. Wouldn't have prevented exploiting a bug in apache.


"in an open forum monitored by Sony employees,"

They really think someone at Sony actually reads all the posts? That's a little optimistic.

Still, they probably ought to have kept an eye on the apache security bulletins tho'.		2011-05-05 20:53:00

Author:
Aya042
Posts: 2870

Or you could, like, play games on it, you know, ones that don't require PSN. You see, not long ago, on the PS2 even, most people didn't have online capabilites, they played single player games instead. And you know what, they still have those for the PS3!

Just an idea.

I get that. I have been doing that and having a blast. Just bought Portal 2

This is all in good fun. It's just a point. I'm not really that bored and I was trying to make a bad situation not so bad, that's all.
You got to keep humor in times like these lol.

The real truth is I wasn't so mad until I got Portal and watched some videos on co-op mode. I can't wait to play it. Portal 2 should keep me good for a while then Portal 1.(don't ask why I'm playing 2 first, long story lol)
When I complete those games LA NOIRE should be out, I imagine with that being a ROCKSTAR game I'll be occupied for a while.


Also you say when there was ps2 there were hardly any online capabilities. Well now there is PS3 and people have grown to love online gaming. Then some punks have to take it away.
I always wonder if whoever hacked into the system comes to these forums and realizes the mess they have made. They're probably looking and saying "holy crap I didnt think it would be this huge". Or they are saying "hehehehe, look at all the trouble I've caused, hehehe".		2011-05-05 21:14:00

Author:
METALPUNKS
Posts: 306

They should have about ten firewalls, followed by 3 virtual bouncers, then 2 password systems. All in all I think hackers may see Sony now as an easy target, but Sony will only bounce back stronger than ever and safer than ever. (Hopefully).2011-05-05 22:06:00

Author:
craigmond
Posts: 2426

With enough time and resources ANY database or network can be hacked. Sony just didn't catch it in time to stop major damage. Just be happy they did catch it at all.2011-05-05 23:50:00

Author:
Brian_Istenes
Posts: 151

Some Great News from the Playstation Blog (US)

Today our global network and security teams at Sony Network Entertainment and Sony Computer Entertainment began the final stages of internal testing of the new system, an important step towards restoring PlayStation Network and Qriocity services.

As previously mentioned, we?ve been working around the clock to rebuild the network and enhance protections of your personal data. It's our top priority to ensure your data is safe when you begin using the services again.

We understand that many of you are eager to again enjoy the PlayStation Network and Qriocity entertainment services that you love, so we wanted you to be aware of this milestone and our progress. We will provide additional updates as soon as we can.

Can someone who knows their stuff or does this for a living reply to my previous post. Sony says they are in the testing stages, how long can this last for, that goes with saying everything goes well. I understand it'd be hard to give a timeline but maybe a rough estimate.

Also maybe it's time for a new thread with the new good update. Let's leave all the negativity behind and start fresh. I'm getting a little pumped and it'd be nice to have an area that talks about the almighty return of Sony. I'm not sure how all the starting new threads and rules work for topics as big as these. I think they finally gave us the news we were waiting for. Sony wouldn't say something like that if they were not close to firing up the network.		2011-05-06 00:56:00

Author:
METALPUNKS
Posts: 306

maybe tomorrow......I HOPE2011-05-06 02:14:00

Author:
The_Lil_JoKeR
Posts: 745

Oho?
Could it be that I called it right and the PSN may be up Tomorrow night?
We shall see!
(Probably gonna be on Saturday tho. xD)		2011-05-06 02:22:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707

Sont put out a couple posts tonight:
Sony in "Final Stages" of Restore-
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/05/05/important-step-for-service-restoration/

AllClear ID Theft Program-
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/05/05/sony-offering-free-allclear-id-plus-identity-theft-protection-in-the-united-states-through-debix-inc/

A Letter from Howard Stringer-
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/05/05/a-letter-from-howard-stringer/		2011-05-06 02:37:00

Author:
acdramon
Posts: 332

I dont know if this means its coming soon but check the playstation network sign in. You know how it usually says error code somthing--now it says "Currently undergoing maintenance" Tommorrow maybe?2011-05-06 03:19:00

Author:
Rpg Maker
Posts: 877

It said that 2 days after PSN was down, you must haven't signed in after the 1st day.2011-05-06 03:30:00

Author:
acdramon
Posts: 332

I dont know if this means its coming soon but check the playstation network sign in. You know how it usually says error code somthing--now it says "Currently undergoing maintenance" Tommorrow maybe?

it usually says error code xxxxxx when you sign in, but if you actually hit the sign in button after logging onto your account, it'll say currently undergoing maintenance. It's been like that for a couple days now...		2011-05-06 03:30:00

Author:
UberOrbPS
Posts: 290

I dont know if this means its coming soon but check the playstation network sign in. You know how it usually says error code somthing--now it says "Currently undergoing maintenance" Tommorrow maybe?

That's like the 5th post saying that exact same thing. xD
Its been saying that since like the beginning of the outage, m8, so its still the same as before. 		2011-05-06 03:38:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707

Oho?
Could it be that I called it right and the PSN may be up Tomorrow night?
We shall see!
(Probably gonna be on Saturday tho. xD)

Your usually always right. If you are right about this I will never ever doubt anything you say, I hardly ever doubt what you say but with this I'll think your awesome, let's see what happens.		2011-05-06 04:15:00

Author:
METALPUNKS
Posts: 306

Ugh: http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2011/05/05/cnet-says-hackers-planning-another-attack-on-sony.aspx2011-05-06 04:22:00

Author:
warlord_evil
Posts: 4193

- Hack Sony while investigating an attack, with external security team, and FBI still around.
- ????
- Prison.

I mean, come on, how stupid can they be?
I kinda hope its true so the idiot (if it exists, which I highly doubt.) gets caught, they'd deserve it, not only for the hacking, but because they're stupid enough to attempt it at this point in time.

Tho like I said, its most likely CNET just trying to make fuzz and commotion to have people read their stuff, so I wouldn't really pay much attention to it.		2011-05-06 04:52:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707

Before I start my usual ranting I'd like to know if anyone is having sudden problems with Netflix. I'm watching the series Rescue Me and I was upset when it wouldn't load today. There is a message from Nextflix that pops up saying you must be signed in with PSN to watch instant video, something along those lines. I'm wondering if it had anything to do with me resetting my internet connection hmm. Any ideas?

Now for the ranting



I think this 12 months free of Debix is one of the best things they could have done. Do you realize you'll be able to monitor your credit. This is big for Sony to do, it's a great service, some people will find themselves continuing after the twelve months. This proves me and other people wrong that Sony does care. They don't have to do all this they choose to do this. I have a feeling when we see what the actual Welcome Back Program includes it'll be more than expected. There are many company's that wouldn't do close to what Sony is doing for us.

My question is with the welcome back program. Most of the services listed are things we will need from the store. So it's not really welcome back. Unless they have plans for the store being up also? I remember they said that'll be later, that's fine with me. They can take however long they need. I wonder if it'll be before Tron and Killzone 3 Dlc. When does that DLC come out anyway?


Also another question I have is are they gonna take away the ability to enter credit card information into their system, at least the option to save the info for auto payment of ps plus? I was just talking about that today. It won't really matter to me, even with the identity protection and new security system in place I have a feeling I'll be using playstation cards. The only thing i think they should change is the amount they are set for. It'd be a great idea for people to pick the amount that is on the card. Maybe if everyone gets a card and you go to select vendors to refil with cash or credit. That way everything is safe.

Who really knows what will happen in the coming weeks. At least now we will be online playing and communicating with friends.

This is the update Sony needed to put out and as Silverleon pointed out earlier they were not giving dates just so they can get people more mad when they didn't follow trough. This time they said "in the coming days". That tells me they are very very close, I take it as if they think it'll be by tomorrow but if they get hung up on the testing then maybe sometime during the weekend. When they say testing I assume they mean they will try to hack into they own system, if they can't then they are ready for release. And what's this crap people are saying about an announced attack on the Playstation Site, that's bull if it's true, just leave these poor people alone for gosh sakes.		2011-05-06 06:42:00

Author:
METALPUNKS
Posts: 306

Has anyone noticed things like: "Let me assure you that the resources of this company have been focused on investigating the entire nature and impact of the cyber-attack we?ve all experienced and on fixing it." Why does fixing it come afterward? Shouldn't that be more important than spending most of your man-power on tracking people down? Of course, it needs to be investigated, but... I'm just looking into this.

And in their post: "In the last few months, Sony has faced a terrible earthquake and tsunami in Japan. But now we are facing a very man-made event ? a criminal attack on us ? and on you ? and we are working with the FBI and other law enforcement agencies around the world to apprehend those responsible." I understand that they went through terrible things in Japan, but how is that relevant? Is this any reason for the attack or lack of decent security? They are just trying to get pity-points. Don't use a disaster to defend your company unless it is actually relevant.

I just hope this fiasco really does end tomorrow :		2011-05-06 07:20:00

Author:
Fading-Dream
Posts: 164

And in their post: "In the last few months, Sony has faced a terrible earthquake and tsunami in Japan. But now we are facing a very man-made event ? a criminal attack on us ? and on you ? and we are working with the FBI and other law enforcement agencies around the world to apprehend those responsible." I understand that they went through terrible things in Japan, but how is that relevant? Is this any reason for the attack or lack of decent security? They are just trying to get pity-points. Don't use a disaster to defend your company unless it is actually relevant.:

I'm glad you pointed that out, I thought the same thing the moment I read this. I just thought it'd be one of those things only I noticed and I would be the bad guy who doesn't care about Japan. But anyway yeah, it does seem like Sony is trying to use the catastrophe Japan suffered as an excuse for what happened. I just thought it was odd they even mentioned Japan in the article.		2011-05-06 08:27:00

Author:
METALPUNKS
Posts: 306

Any chance it's gonna be up today? It's 10:07 AM where I live so it's still morning...2011-05-06 09:08:00

Author:
AwesomeArnold
Posts: 61

Well, there's a chance it may be up anytime, but other than that, can't really go much into detail how much of a chance, considering no one really knows at this point.
Tho it IS quite possible, considering they said they were done with some of that stuff, so maybe.		2011-05-06 09:23:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707

Any chance it's gonna be up today? It's 10:07 AM where I live so it's still morning...

Some chance but not enough to get your hopes up.		2011-05-06 09:29:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728

Too bad, I was hoping to play some PS3 before the end of the holidays... Sigh... Sigh... Ah well2011-05-06 09:33:00

Author:
AwesomeArnold
Posts: 61

http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2011/05/06/update-on-identity-protection-scheme/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+SCEEBlog+%28blog.eu.playstati on.com%29


As you will have read in the letter from Sir Howard Stringer, that we posted a few hours ago, in the US we are offering all PSN users one year’s free access to an identity protection scheme. I can assure you that here in the SCEE region, we are working incredibly hard to offer you something very similar. As is often the case here, with so many countries in our region, this is a very complicated thing to achieve, but we are close.
Please keep an eye on the blog as we hope to be able to announce something about this very soon.		2011-05-06 11:41:00

Author:
OmegaSlayer
Posts: 5112

http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2011/05/06/update-on-identity-protection-scheme/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+SCEEBlog+%28blog.eu.playstati on.com%29

As for Sony's 'Please keep an eye on the blog as we hope to be able to announce something about this very soon.' statement, by their standards this probably meeans 5-7 days later for updates or even a a bit of info on progress. (OK I was being sarcastic and angry at the same time there)

Ok I've seen the letter and announcement but now this is just getting stupid and there's a lot of misinformation around. Just check this link out:

3rd PSN hack attack this weekend
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-05-06-third-psn-hack-attack-this-weekend

I swear I read somewhere that the 2nd one was related to the 1st and not actually a 2nd attack and now I'm seeing this bit of info about a 3rd. I'm past caring anymore. I'm happy doing my LBP level off-line and playing my other consoles too.		2011-05-06 12:08:00

Author:
LittleBigDes
Posts: 920

I just guess I'm annoyed by hackers.
Vile and coward naive people.

I've not been affected by the outage since I was (and am) offline anyway for other reasons, but knowing that somewhere there's someone smiling at all this thing makes me angry.		2011-05-06 12:21:00

Author:
OmegaSlayer
Posts: 5112

Does anyone else think that the "coming days" could be as few as 1 or as many as 100?
I think saying that the network will be back up in the coming days gives us no real idea of when.

I mean, I would love it if they are estimating that it will be up again in the next few days, but I won't get my hopes up. :		2011-05-06 17:07:00

Author:
Creekey
Posts: 116

On the bright side the vague estimates are no longer being done as a week.2011-05-06 17:10:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728

Update on PS3 EU blog... it's contradicting the statement that PSN would be online this week a bit... They're saying it's difficult blah blah blah so in the beginning of next week we will update you more.... Jesus2011-05-06 18:40:00

Author:
AwesomeArnold
Posts: 61

Both Kazuo Hirai and Sir Howard Stringer have stated that we will be offering identity theft protection for those affected by the malicious attack on PlayStation Network and many of you may have seen the details of the service available in North America.

As I have explained previously, creating a similar offering for the many countries within the SCEE region is a very complicated process. Each country has a different way of handling identity theft; some offer relatively sophisticated services whilst others are much more modest.

We are currently in the process of identifying how we manage this situation and once the programme is ready to launch, we will provide details of exactly which services are available in each country and explain how to sign up. We hope to do this early next week.

Also, look out for more information on the rest of our Welcome Back programme, including which free content you will be eligible for. We will be offering PSN users the opportunity to select two PS3 games from a list of five, as well as offering PSP users the opportunity to choose two games from a list of four. We will let you know exactly what games are available very soon.

Please be assured that we are continuing to work around the clock to have some PlayStation Network and Qriocity services restored and will provide you with specific details shortly.

http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2011/05/06/scee-identity-theft-protection-offering/		2011-05-06 19:07:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728

Ooh, so PS+ for a month, 2 PS3 games (there's not that many in the PSN, but If I had to guess, its from the $39.99 list.) and other "content" eligible depending on where you live?
Sounds good to me. xD

I for one have been having fun catching up with a bunch of stuff while PSN is down, so getting some extra stuff for that, I'm all good.
(Not to mention the I.D. protection programs for those who placed their info is really good.)

Well then, either they have it ready now, but wanted to bring it on "Update Tuesday/ Wednesday" thus why "early next week." that or they really don't know yet when its going to be up. xD		2011-05-06 19:41:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707

Ooh, so PS+ for a month, 2 PS3 games (there's not that many in the PSN, but If I had to guess, its from the $39.99 list.) and other "content" eligible depending on where you live?
Sounds good to me. xD


PS3 games could mean any of the PSN games. It's probably best if we don't get expectations too high.		2011-05-06 19:54:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728

PS3 games could mean any of the PSN games. It's probably best if we don't get expectations too high.

what about the psp games? are they download or retail? i only own a psp go so do i get download games?		2011-05-06 20:08:00

Author:
supersonic56
Posts: 287

what about the psp games? are they download or retail? i only own a psp go so do i get download games?

Download I assume.		2011-05-06 20:17:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728

But we still have to keep paying for PS+ to keep those "free games" right?2011-05-06 20:55:00

Author:
midnight_heist
Posts: 2513

But we still have to keep paying for PS+ to keep those "free games" right?

The PS+ ones yes the other freebies no.		2011-05-06 21:06:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728

But we still have to keep paying for PS+ to keep those "free games" right?

Not necessarily, I live in the states not sure if its different in other regions. I've let my PS Plus expire twice now. It will automatically set you up for auto payment but I always click that to NO. So everytime I forget and it runs out. Both times I noticed that not all games were unplayable. Anything I payed for at a discount I got to keep, I guess because I'm still paying for something. All DLC free or discounted I got to keep. Honestly only a few of the free games were unplayable. A while back I had this discussion with someone and they swore up and down you don't get to keep anything. Well I've been at that point where it expires first hand and you do get to keep quite a bit. My word wasn't enough for the kid, so I took the time to find the user agreement online and found the part where Sony says themselves you get to keep certain things. Just look for the ps plus user agreement and you'll see for yourself.

I don't know why some people hate ps plus. I have been a member since day one and I love it. It's not so much the games and exclusive content, it's the features that are tr best for me, especially automatic download. Which is where my ps3 turns on and downloads games patches at a certain time eveynight. Also I love turning on my ps3 and being surprised with a demo or beta for a game that I've been looking forward to playing. I'm not sure If it's as good in other regions by I enjoy it plenty here in the U.S. Also a great feature is cloud. If you don't already know you get to back up you games like LBP to it and when you want to you can access the data on any ps3. Not sure if this will all be the same after everything that has happens. I actually have a feeling it's gonna have some changes.		2011-05-06 22:16:00

Author:
METALPUNKS
Posts: 306

PS3 games could mean any of the PSN games. It's probably best if we don't get expectations too high.

Do note they worded it "PS3" games not "PSN" games, which is something they tend to be quite specific about, when talking about games on PS store.
Yet again, its still too early to tell, and they could indeed mean that and the people just said it because, so although I'm positive, its not 100% assured.


But we still have to keep paying for PS+ to keep those "free games" right?
No, they're not really part of PS+, so they really don't have anything to do with that.
Maybe the ones you get using the PS+ section, but other than that, no, it should be independent, non-PS+ related stuff you keep for as long as you want. 		2011-05-06 23:04:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707

Update on Playstation Blog (US)

Same old crap, tell me something I don't know please!

As you may know, we’ve begun the process of restoring the service through internal testing of the new system. We’re still working to confirm the security of the network infrastructure, as well as working with a variety of outside entities to confirm with them of the security of the system. Verifying the system security is vital for the process of restoration. Additional comprehensive system checks and testing are still required, and we must complete that process before bringing the systems online.

As you’ve heard us say, our utmost priorities are the security of the network and ensuring your data is safe. We won’t restore the services until we can test the system’s strength in these respects.

When we held the press conference in Japan last week, based on what we knew, we expected to have the services online within a week. We were unaware of the extent of the attack on Sony Online Entertainment servers, and we are taking this opportunity to conduct further testing of the incredibly complex system. We know many of you are wanting to play games online, chat with your friends and enjoy all of the services PlayStation Network and Qriocity services have to offer, and trust me when I say we’re doing everything we can to make it happen. We will update you with more information as soon as we have it. We apologize for the delay and inconvenience of this network outage.		2011-05-07 03:08:00

Author:
METALPUNKS
Posts: 306

I give it 4 more days.2011-05-07 05:47:00

Author:
CENTURION24
Posts: 266

Playstation blog update:

" As you may know, we’ve begun the process of restoring the service through internal testing of the new system. We’re still working to confirm the security of the network infrastructure, as well as working with a variety of outside entities to confirm with them of the security of the system. Verifying the system security is vital for the process of restoration. Additional comprehensive system checks and testing are still required, and we must complete that process before bringing the systems online.

As you’ve heard us say, our utmost priorities are the security of the network and ensuring your data is safe. We won’t restore the services until we can test the system’s strength in these respects.

When we held the press conference in Japan last week, based on what we knew, we expected to have the services online within a week. We were unaware of the extent of the attack on Sony Online Entertainment servers, and we are taking this opportunity to conduct further testing of the incredibly complex system. We know many of you are wanting to play games online, chat with your friends and enjoy all of the services PlayStation Network and Qriocity services have to offer, and trust me when I say we’re doing everything we can to make it happen. We will update you with more information as soon as we have it. We apologize for the delay and inconvenience of this network outage." - Patrick Seybold

I just posted this also. Blah blah blah Sony. I hate this. If a mod wants to erase the one I posted that's cool I think we have them back to back.

I think this was an update on the update which was on another update. Now I think it's better they stay away from updating unless it has to do with them updating the security system itself. You should see the comments on the blog, there are maybe 5 out of 100 that think this was ok. Everyone else including me is livid. Yesterday Sony posted some great stuff, then today it's crap, worse than crap, more like total BS. At this point they should have skipped the update today and did it Sat or Sun.


I think I'll have nightmares about the words "around the clock" and "the coming days". I know I'm complaining but what else is there to do go outside, ya right. Well I guess no online tonight, it's back to Portal 2, which is not a bad alternative by any means. I just cannot wait to play this game co-op.


No more updates please! Unless I'm updating my software to 3.61.

I think I may have said the word update as many times as the word **** was said in Scarface:/.		2011-05-07 05:58:00

Author:
METALPUNKS
Posts: 306

but what else is there to do go outside,

Go outside, go further than you've ever been, just keep going until you eventually reach Sony.		2011-05-07 08:12:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728

Go outside, go further than you've ever been, just keep going until you eventually reach Sony.

Yes, and then I'm gonna butcher all of them liars. God **** liars. GOD ****. IM GOING CRAZY IM GOING HULKKKKKKKKK		2011-05-07 08:17:00

Author:
AwesomeArnold
Posts: 61

If you kill them, then who will fix it? Sony's doing something.2011-05-07 08:33:00

Author:
JspOt
Posts: 3607

All this 'soon' talk brings back memories of the beta (I never got it).. And then the actual game.

But when it comes, it'll be so sweet. Free psn plus! yaaaaaay		2011-05-07 11:57:00

Author:
Cheezy WEAPON
Posts: 283

Yes, I also read those blog comments.
I can relate to the calm guy's posts, but those ones that are like

(Dramatization in 3... 2... 1...) "HAHAHA SONY U GOT KARMA FR NT LTTN ME PLY 2DAY I HPE UR STOKS FAWL LOLOL U LIESLIESLIESLIES GO CHOKE ON A LEMON"

Its not like it's their intention to delay anything, their trying their best to fix all of it and make it better. But It's still a bummer that they didn't stick with their main goal.		2011-05-07 16:52:00

Author:
Tmjtk
Posts: 258

I'm starting to get bored now. All I do now is go on the computer and WRITE. I checked PSN when I woke up and just went "UGH" when I read that smug message that's been going on for about eighteen days now. Then I went back to sleep again because I couldn't be bothered to get up 2011-05-07 17:21:00

Author:
Jakest123
Posts: 319

Yes, I also read those blog comments.
I can relate to the calm guy's posts, but those ones that are like

(Dramatization in 3... 2... 1...) "HAHAHA SONY U GOT KARMA FR NT LTTN ME PLY 2DAY I HPE UR STOKS FAWL LOLOL U LIESLIESLIESLIES GO CHOKE ON A LEMON"

Its not like it's their intention to delay anything, their trying their best to fix all of it and make it better. But It's still a bummer that they didn't stick with their main goal.


I hear ya. For me I know they are trying really hard. No matters how mad anyone is if Sony didn't do this right and just threw up the network and it failed people would be even more upset. Ive said it before, I wish they would just say by the end of the month. Then of they got it done earlier they look really good. Sony needs to trick their costumers into thinking that they care by getting it done way before the date they said. I am not saying Sony doesn't care I'm just saying there are a lot of people who think that. These updates that just keep postponing the date are getting old. Yes take your time and get it right but don't just say some random date to keep people happy. If it's not up by Tuesday I think they'll have a mob of incredibly angry people. I say Tuesday but really it should be no longer than Sunday. I don't care how long it takes Sony is going to have angry people no matter. Once it's back up Sony will be a God in everyone's eyes, I think they know that, that's why they are doing things the way they are. After we are back online I don't think Sony will have any problems with sales. It'd be a different story if Xbox had the exact same games as Ps3, also if Xbox was better system.

I'm growing tired watching YouTube videos of Portal 2 co-op.		2011-05-07 17:45:00

Author:
METALPUNKS
Posts: 306

I just posted this also. Blah blah blah Sony. I hate this. If a mod wants to erase the one I posted that's cool I think we have them back to back.

I think this was an update on the update which was on another update. Now I think it's better they stay away from updating unless it has to do with them updating the security system itself. You should see the comments on the blog, there are maybe 5 out of 100 that think this was ok. Everyone else including me is livid. Yesterday Sony posted some great stuff, then today it's crap, worse than crap, more like total BS. At this point they should have skipped the update today and did it Sat or Sun.


I think I'll have nightmares about the words "around the clock" and "the coming days". I know I'm complaining but what else is there to do go outside, ya right. Well I guess no online tonight, it's back to Portal 2, which is not a bad alternative by any means. I just cannot wait to play this game co-op.


No more updates please! Unless I'm updating my software to 3.61.

I think I may have said the word update as many times as the word **** was said in Scarface:/.

Thanks for the heads up. I just deleted mine.

I think we are all (or at least the majority of us) have heard enough. I think by now, the only type of blog post that won't get hundreds of outraged comments will have to sound something like this:

"We apologize for the DRASTICALLY LONG PSN outage. That is why we are happily relieved to announce to you that the network WILL be up in roughly 1 hour. If it takes beyond even 1 minute over the 1 hour, Sony gives you permission to boycott our main corporate building with eggs, silly string, toilet paper, or any other biodegradable material. Thanks for your patience and... understan... Thank you to the 4 people who gave us your understanding throughout this. Have a nice day, and happy playing."

Give or take a few words/sentences. But the idea is similar.		2011-05-07 17:54:00

Author:
Creekey
Posts: 116

This is getting ridiculous! I'm actually pretty certain they had that 3rd attack that was rumored on them. How does it go from "Final Testing" to "Wasn't sure of the extent and no time frame"? Either they were hacked or found a huge flaw in the new system. What they need to do is make it so people don't have to put up personal info so that if it gets hacked, it doesn't really matter all that much as no one's personal info is there anyway. Okay, maybe an email address, but meh :

This whole thing is terrible as I wanted to play online Easter Sunday and I still haven't been able to. Luckily, I'm more of an offline player anyway, but I recently got Modnation Racers and a new tv so I wanted to play some LBP 2. Of course, that's not possible. Can't they hire more people to fix this?		2011-05-07 18:18:00

Author:
Fading-Dream
Posts: 164

For once, EU gets a better deal than NA!2011-05-07 18:37:00

Author:
TehUberZac
Posts: 587

For once, EU gets a better deal than NA!

What are you replying to with that?		2011-05-07 20:51:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462

Video game fans will once again wake up to find Sony PlayStation Network down on May 7, 2011. This has many wondering when will the PSN be back online officially? Unfortunately, new reports have shed light on further delays from the Tokyo-based electronics company.

While users play their favorite PS3 game offline, security is still the top priority for the PSN service. On Saturday, Reuters has reported that the Sony company has removed names and addresses of 2,500 sweepstakes contestants from the internet. This data had apparently been stolen by cyber hackers and then posted on a website. In addition to those names and addresses at least three "unconfirmed" e-mail addresses were posted on the inactive website.

This data was the result of a 2001 contest that members entered for various products. Sony noted that the website they discovered was out of date and inactive. Still, in the wake of all that has happened, making sure this private data was wiped off the face of the world wide web was imperative to protecting these members and their privacy.

The company has now delayed the restoration date for getting PSN back up online further. While previous reports had the PlayStation Network service back up online this week, there is no firm date as of this report for when it will happen. This may be bad news for video game fans who want to play Call of Duty or Mortal Kombat online, but to use a common cliche, "better safe than sorry." Sony seems to be saying "sorry" a lot, so now it's time to make things safe and get them online ASAP.

(From technology.gather.com)

COME ON SONY!!! 		2011-05-07 21:31:00

Author:
nk827
Posts: 193

What are you replying to with that?

The two-free-games blog post was on the SCEE blog but no others...		2011-05-08 00:44:00

Author:
BlackWolfe
Posts: 299

cant be much longer now2011-05-08 09:05:00

Author:
Unknown User

Still working on it. Bet they whole pile of red bull or whatever they have, because they still fixing it for 24/7 and PSN down for about 2 weeks.

I got a feeling that we get a massive update on our PS3 and what sweet about Sony that we get Playstation Plus for NOTHING!

Only just getting trophys...Recently getting NFS Shift trophys, most people try to get Portal 2 Trophys, I don't have Portal 2.		2011-05-08 10:24:00

Author:
ShiftyDog
Posts: 293

All this 'soon' talk brings back memories of the beta (I never got it).. And then the actual game.

But when it comes, it'll be so sweet. Free psn plus! yaaaaaay

and for us EU citizens, 2 free games
still, I want more for this outrageuous outage (see what I did there?)		2011-05-08 10:43:00

Author:
AwesomeArnold
Posts: 61

Bet they whole pile of red bull or whatever they have, because they still fixing it for 24/7 and PSN down for about 2 weeks.


Oh, they got a giant pile of bull alright...
May not be Red Bull, but its bull, that I can tell.


For once, EU gets a better deal than NA!

Eh, who knows, may be the same everywhere, my not, but if this IS one of the regional things, they've yet to announce anything to the other regions, meaning its still unknown what the others may get. 		2011-05-08 11:02:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707

Eh, if the psn stays down for a couple more days i can handle it. after all, I'm in the middle of a 7 day stretch of work, and the outage has finally managed to make me start playing the orange box: half life 2. never did put much into it since i really am not a huge fan of fps and such, but after beating the original portal it hasn't seen use. might even finish Pokemon white at this rate.

Now, if after coming back up, the psn gets hacked again, I'm gonna re-think my future console purchases, but thats about it.

seriously folks, crap happens. its not the end of the world. thats nearly a year away.<3		2011-05-08 12:28:00

Author:
Memodrix
Posts: 879

good news you black ops fans read this
http://www.inentertainment.co.uk/20110507/when-psn-back-up-online-expect-double-xp/		2011-05-08 12:29:00

Author:
danger sackboy
Posts: 177

I just hope PSN comes back up before the release of BRINK. D:

:SH:		2011-05-08 12:40:00

Author:
ThePineapplizer
Posts: 769

i just cant wait for it to come back online because i am getting ********** bored of the story levels2011-05-08 14:55:00

Author:
Gamerater15
Posts: 80

Well, all of you who are getting impatient, just feel lucky that you'll get to see the network when it comes back.

Struck by YLOD, gonna take two weeks to get my system back.

Awesome.

EDIT: A visit to the hairdryer has at least allowed me to get the most up to date version of my profile backup (my last was a week ago, done a lot since then . . .) so I can now think about saying 'sod it' to the old ps3 and getting me a nice slim one instead.

Choices, choices . . .		2011-05-08 14:59:00

Author:
rialrees
Posts: 1015

Sorry rees

Anyway I found this article, don't know if it had been posted yet
http://bitmob.com/articles/detective-work-reveals-psn-servers-up-to-date

Basically it says that the Apache Firewall used on PSN was the safest, most stable and up to date.
So, they didn't let the servers weak to the attacks		2011-05-08 15:06:00

Author:
OmegaSlayer
Posts: 5112

ya, my PS YLOD the other night. Fixed with a reflow.....but now I cant use or enter any levels with DLC until the PS3 resyncs with my account online. So now i cant use my product that i paid for.....sucks2011-05-08 15:07:00

Author:
sascha_winter
Posts: 163

I find myself thinking of the US LBP2 commercials:

"I just finished Little Big Planet 2..."
"No you didn't."

PSN goes down.
"I take it back, I guess you did. For now."		2011-05-08 15:12:00

Author:
BlackWolfe
Posts: 299

I find myself thinking of the US LBP2 commercials:

"I just finished Little Big Planet 2..."
"No you didn't."

PSN goes down.
"I take it back, I guess you did. For now."

I've constantly thought that Kevin Butler needs to do a commercial regarding the PSN downtime. That would make eerything better for me! XD		2011-05-08 15:38:00

Author:
nk827
Posts: 193

On a foul and lonesome evening, Fading awoke in a terrified shock. It wasn't that the window was open and that 2012 would soon be there to take him to death's abyss; no, it wasn't anything of the sort. Fumbling in the dark, searching for a light to guide him back to sanity, Fading found a slim, plastic piece of technology. He thought to himself, "Light switches aren't portable" and as he did, a light shone in the distance. It was a familiar glow of a soothing time. To resurrect happiness and his own joy, Fading reached over to the PS3 and pushed the button.

All was well and a warm sensation fluttered into his heavy heart. Remembering the promise of someone he thought was great, Fading dived into his profile. Alarmingly, he received a terrible error that made the dead turn over in their graves. Still, Fading did not panic. He had had such errors before and the random string of code could not harm him. After all, it was probably just the media server...

WRONG.

Fading had tried to sign in to the PSN with no luck. Gasping for air, Fading ran up the stairs to his computer to see the apocalypse unfolding. Sony had, once again, turned their backs on their little "friends" and took away hope. There was no date given, just promises broken and PS3's lost.

Fading quivered with fear. Shaking like a house with irreperable termite damage, he sought only one place that may quell his rage. Google... Fading typed in three missed letters: P...S...N... Old news flashed before his eyes. Silently, he clicked the "latest" option on the left. Twitter updates exploded across the screen with people reporting old news again and again. And that is where Fading stayed, for the rest of his life.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

This was not a triumph...
I made a story: LAME success.
It's hard to overstate my dis-satisfaction.
Sony Online.
The hackers hacked because they could.
Sony tried to fix itself but it was
already dead...

But there's no sense crying over unsynced trophies.
You just keep on trying till' your eyes start to bleed.
And the level gets done,
And you had little fun,
While the PSN was not alive.

I'm actually quite angry.
It's not coming up soon this time.
Even though they said it would be done soon.
And said it was safe now.
And said that our credit cards were safe.
Still we have to live without ever playing online.

Now this legion of haters
Want to kill those that caused this crime.
And we're out of patience
It's taking too much time
I'm so mad that's it's down
This smiley face has a frown
Maybe it was never really alive.

Go ahead and leave me.
I think I'd prefer an X-box now.
Maybe it doesn't matter that their games suck.
Maybe a wii.
That was a joke. Haha... Slim chance.
Speaking of the slim
it's wifi is utterly useless.

Look at me still typing when there's Portal to play,
When I look at Sony I think "I'm Glad I'm not you."
I've some homebrew to run
There's always PC for fun.
While the PSN's not alive.
And believe me it's just not alive.
I'm playing offline while it's not alive.
And when it's back it will be revived.
Not alive
Not alive...

---------------------------
I'm bored :		2011-05-08 16:55:00

Author:
Fading-Dream
Posts: 164

Wish it would work as soon as possible because. Glad they are giving some games for free but just wish they are not mini games...2011-05-08 17:49:00

Author:
Unknown User

Haha nice song, here let me try that:

This was an outage...
I'm making a note here:online-less-ness.
It's hard to overstate my poor reaction.
Sony Online.
The hackers hacked because they could.
Sony tried to fix online,
but it was already screwed...

But there's no sense crying over no comun-it-ty,
You just keep on trying 'till you broke your ps3.
And the levels get done,
And you had very little fun,
While the PSN was not online.

But when it's on, I will be satisfied.
But since it's not, i'd much rather hide.
Not online.
Not online.

I'm really annoyed now.
I'm begging to lose my mind.
Even though It must eventually come up.
Sony said they would fix it.
But here we are, it is may 8th.
Still we have no online to play on.

Now this thread is thriving
People gather to moan and whine.
And we're out of patience
It's taking too much time
I'm so mad that's it's down
This smiley face has a frown
Maybe it was never really online.

But when it's on, I will be satisfied.
But since it's not, i'd much rather hide.
Not online.
Not online.

Go ahead and leave me.
I think they are back up.
Maybe I can get online.
Yes it is on, we've won AGAIN.
That was a joke. Haha... Slim chance.
Speaking of the slim
I have one that is 250 GigBytes.

Look at me still whining when there's threads to reply,
When I look at Sony I think "I'm mad at you."
I've grown tired of this PSN outage,
There's always PC for fun.
While the PSN's not online.
And believe me it's just not online.
I have checked it several times.
And when it's back it will be satisfied.
Not online
Not online...		2011-05-08 17:55:00

Author:
Unknown User

Bravo, Bravo.2011-05-08 18:42:00

Author:
Creekey
Posts: 116


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